Guys you got it mixed up, the UAD NATIVE ATR 102 latest version which is what your reviewing when you open the panel you have limited options compared to the UAD original DSP version which you are showing on screen on the left lol, they dumbed it down for the native version, no delay etc
@@Phat-Monkey Ya I noticed that too. I have the original and it has way more than the Spark version. In defense of the Spark version, most of the controls that are most important are there, but I’m still using the original as you have more control and I’m more use to it. Good call out though, I was a bit confused lol
I just tried this one a week ago and it knocked my socks off! Just clicking thru the presets on a mix and it took me back to the 90s stuff I did. (and yes, I luv watching the reels go 'round too!) 🎸
Note that the advanced "open" panel picture you showed is the UAD plugin version, not the Native version which has been changed. The tape delay section is removed and you have less things to tweak. Also the overall sound is slightly different of the Native plugin versus the UAD plugin (neither better nor worse, just slightly different frequency response).
Dan is having that friday feeling bigtime today 😂! "The more you drive...". Anyways, the Ampex is perfect at the end of my mixbus, before entering my TC Electronic System 6000 MD 4 processor. So it works as my finishing touch to my mixing and my first step within my mastering chain. The digital realm gave us new possibilities. That's why the Ampex is not my final destination for mastering.
I.have a Tascam tsr-8 that is biased to use 456 (1/2 inch) Expensive now though about £100 a reel! Also needs new tyre rollers, so that's another £60, probably a capstan belt before long too When you look at the cost of tape alone using a plugin is a no brainer, so long as it isn't SHIT !
Setting the amount of wow, flutter and crosstalk manually (as well as the delay functionality) is missing from the native version as it is a port of the Luna extension. Not a big deal for me but I thought people might want to know.
Unfortunately the native version is missing a bunch of the features you've reviewed. UA keep doing this with their native releases & this behaviour from them certainly IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT!!!!!!!
@@audiosnobs I don’t disagree, but I feel part of it may be that if they included every feature it would use waay too much cou power and people may complain. Or it would require a lot of latency.
Unfortunately @@CreativeMindsAudio that's pretty much certainly not the case, the missing features are nothing CPU intensive, I feel it's much more likely to be them cynically leaving functionality out to 'encourage' us to buy their expensive hardware. Apple silicon macs can handle an incredible amount of plugin processing without any latency at all, it's been with us for 3 years now & UA have only recently ported this plug over to native so they have absolutely no excuse there.
@@audiosnobs maybe. I have tons of their hardware already. I’m running on an old MacBook Pro from 2019. CPU overload errors a lot from newer plugins such as soothe 2 😂. Also too many tracks with some modern amp sims eat up a lot of the cpu. And if I do anything beyond 48khz I’m really F’d. I wouldn’t be able to do nearly as much mixing without the dsp chips. But after my current studio build is done I’ll be saving up for a new Mac with apple silicon. Cause I’m kinda tired of constant cpu errors. Also I actually prefer the added features on the new ampex. Auto gain matching is a life saver! I never used most of the other features anyway, but nice to know I got the dsp versions and all. I own every UA plugin I’d want anyway. And the stuff that isn’t native I have native versions of from other companies. So if I’m out of dsp I have other options. Granted certain reverbs I just can’t find proper replacement, but close enough to switch it out later. But yeah the dsp stuff still has a huge place in the studio imo. Especially if you can’t afford a new 5k laptop. Considering I started down the UA path 10 years ago just getting a card and now I also have an Apollo. Yeah I never run out of dsp now unless I’m more mobile and don’t have my rack gear.
Sure the Ampex is really cool but I can confirm that there are many other tape plugins (maybe) even better... Then it all depends a bit on personal taste.
6:10 Digital mixers can have crosstalk if 2 or more inputs or outputs share a converter chip there will be crosstalk its inevitable. It will be lower than say most budget analog console crosstalk but it is true and is common. This is what separates expensive quote "mastering grade converters" such as Lynx or Lavry who use a 1 AD/DA for 1 input or output from brands like Focusrite and Universal Audio. But yes Crosstalk is a problem even in digital consoles. The Presonus studiolive consoles share a chip for every 4 inputs "ADC" and 1 chip for 4 outputs "DAC" and crosstalk happens at about 70db. But its nothing like tape where if you recorded bass on the first or last channel it would bleed over to the adjacent track at -30, but crosstalk on converter chips is a real problem that is becoming less and less of an issue with more available ADDA chips and better specs.
I was quite excited to try this on release as had heard so much about it, but I can get the same sound from the IK Tape 99 as a transparent polish...unless I am missing something, which I am willing to be corrected on.
Funny those mistakes that could be made with tape but digital isn’t safe for faults either. I had a harddisk crash on me one time, lost over thirty songs 😢 So remember people, data is only considered safe when backed up three times 😊 So backup, backup, backup ‼️❗️
@@Chaos-Dynamics After using HDs for recording since 1998...I've lost about 6 drives...but I constantly double backup and replace all archive drives with newer ones every few years. Annoying and expensive...but losing a client's work is not an option..👍
@@StudioLife101 I sometimes do recordings out of my studio and now I always have the main HD, a external backup HD and third I copy everything to a thumb drive before shutting down a session. I never want that happening again 🤯🤬🥵😡😱
Reverse Manual Erase !!! How many of us thought that we were the ones who had invented it ? I had the head distance worked out, by touch. Worse goof I did was to Reverse Erase the count-ins and click But got the Track Arms wrong and took a whole Bar of the Bass Intro out by mistake !! Aargghh !! NO !!! BUT, as it turned out, it actually improved the Intro .. Talk about Getting Away With It !
@@julianhigginson5946 It's a unique combo of transformer vibe, subtle tape compression and a tiny bit of saturation. Works on some stuff but not everything.👍
UAD showed me what a shitty company they are with this release. I was waiting for the Native version of this, and they released it at £49. Resellers instantly did it a 10er cheaper, then UAD dropped their price within a week to that. I complained and they didn't give a shit. Stole a 10er from all loyal users. So plugin is ok, UAD are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT ! I'll never buy from them again. Always use resellers. Fk UAD.
Guys you got it mixed up, the UAD NATIVE ATR 102 latest version which is what your reviewing when you open the panel you have limited options compared to the UAD original DSP version which you are showing on screen on the left lol, they dumbed it down for the native version, no delay etc
@@Phat-Monkey We should have mentioned this...👍
@@Phat-Monkey Ya I noticed that too. I have the original and it has way more than the Spark version. In defense of the Spark version, most of the controls that are most important are there, but I’m still using the original as you have more control and I’m more use to it. Good call out though, I was a bit confused lol
Best tape emulation ever.
I just tried this one a week ago and it knocked my socks off! Just clicking thru the presets on a mix and it took me back to the 90s stuff I did. (and yes, I luv watching the reels go 'round too!) 🎸
Note that the advanced "open" panel picture you showed is the UAD plugin version, not the Native version which has been changed. The tape delay section is removed and you have less things to tweak. Also the overall sound is slightly different of the Native plugin versus the UAD plugin (neither better nor worse, just slightly different frequency response).
Ah yes, the Waldorf and Stater of RUclips music production 😁
Dan is having that friday feeling bigtime today 😂! "The more you drive...".
Anyways, the Ampex is perfect at the end of my mixbus, before entering my TC Electronic System 6000 MD 4 processor. So it works as my finishing touch to my mixing and my first step within my mastering chain. The digital realm gave us new possibilities. That's why the Ampex is not my final destination for mastering.
Nice review like always. But have a look at the U-HE Satin tape emulation. This thing is absolutely brilliant.
I.have a Tascam tsr-8 that is biased to use 456 (1/2 inch) Expensive now though about £100 a reel! Also needs new tyre rollers, so that's another £60, probably a capstan belt before long too When you look at the cost of tape alone using a plugin is a no brainer, so long as it isn't SHIT !
Setting the amount of wow, flutter and crosstalk manually (as well as the delay functionality) is missing from the native version as it is a port of the Luna extension. Not a big deal for me but I thought people might want to know.
Get the same result with my lovely Handsome Zulu 😊
Unfortunately the native version is missing a bunch of the features you've reviewed. UA keep doing this with their native releases & this behaviour from them certainly IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT!!!!!!!
@@audiosnobs I don’t disagree, but I feel part of it may be that if they included every feature it would use waay too much cou power and people may complain. Or it would require a lot of latency.
Unfortunately @@CreativeMindsAudio that's pretty much certainly not the case, the missing features are nothing CPU intensive, I feel it's much more likely to be them cynically leaving functionality out to 'encourage' us to buy their expensive hardware. Apple silicon macs can handle an incredible amount of plugin processing without any latency at all, it's been with us for 3 years now & UA have only recently ported this plug over to native so they have absolutely no excuse there.
@@audiosnobs maybe. I have tons of their hardware already. I’m running on an old MacBook Pro from 2019. CPU overload errors a lot from newer plugins such as soothe 2 😂. Also too many tracks with some modern amp sims eat up a lot of the cpu. And if I do anything beyond 48khz I’m really F’d. I wouldn’t be able to do nearly as much mixing without the dsp chips. But after my current studio build is done I’ll be saving up for a new Mac with apple silicon. Cause I’m kinda tired of constant cpu errors.
Also I actually prefer the added features on the new ampex. Auto gain matching is a life saver! I never used most of the other features anyway, but nice to know I got the dsp versions and all. I own every UA plugin I’d want anyway. And the stuff that isn’t native I have native versions of from other companies. So if I’m out of dsp I have other options. Granted certain reverbs I just can’t find proper replacement, but close enough to switch it out later.
But yeah the dsp stuff still has a huge place in the studio imo. Especially if you can’t afford a new 5k laptop. Considering I started down the UA path 10 years ago just getting a card and now I also have an Apollo. Yeah I never run out of dsp now unless I’m more mobile and don’t have my rack gear.
WOW is when it sounded really good 🤣🤣
Sure the Ampex is really cool but I can confirm that there are many other tape plugins (maybe) even better... Then it all depends a bit on personal taste.
Nice talk gents
6:10 Digital mixers can have crosstalk if 2 or more inputs or outputs share a converter chip there will be crosstalk its inevitable. It will be lower than say most budget analog console crosstalk but it is true and is common. This is what separates expensive quote "mastering grade converters" such as Lynx or Lavry who use a 1 AD/DA for 1 input or output from brands like Focusrite and Universal Audio. But yes Crosstalk is a problem even in digital consoles. The Presonus studiolive consoles share a chip for every 4 inputs "ADC" and 1 chip for 4 outputs "DAC" and crosstalk happens at about 70db. But its nothing like tape where if you recorded bass on the first or last channel it would bleed over to the adjacent track at -30, but crosstalk on converter chips is a real problem that is becoming less and less of an issue with more available ADDA chips and better specs.
I was quite excited to try this on release as had heard so much about it, but I can get the same sound from the IK Tape 99 as a transparent polish...unless I am missing something, which I am willing to be corrected on.
@@Lewis_Emblack ik tape 99 is very good 👍
Funny those mistakes that could be made with tape but digital isn’t safe for faults either. I had a harddisk crash on me one time, lost over thirty songs 😢
So remember people, data is only considered safe when backed up three times 😊
So backup, backup, backup ‼️❗️
@@Chaos-Dynamics After using HDs for recording since 1998...I've lost about 6 drives...but I constantly double backup and replace all archive drives with newer ones every few years. Annoying and expensive...but losing a client's work is not an option..👍
@@StudioLife101 I sometimes do recordings out of my studio and now I always have the main HD, a external backup HD and third I copy everything to a thumb drive before shutting down a session. I never want that happening again 🤯🤬🥵😡😱
Great review and stories. Btw, how satisfied are you with Dynaudios in the background? Thx guys.
@@FTmusic84 love them. 👍
I really love and appreciate yall's work, but Dan, buddy, you gotta try to look a little less miserable 😆
@@MadGearBand 😂
I thought this plugin review would be smut free but somehow Dan finds a way 😂
Have you guys reviewed the Avalon 737 plugin by UAD?
@@Tha_Mecca Not yet...we reviewed the other one....from Kazrog
Reverse Manual Erase !!! How many of us thought that we were the ones who had invented it ?
I had the head distance worked out, by touch.
Worse goof I did was to Reverse Erase the count-ins and click But got the Track Arms wrong and took a whole Bar of the Bass Intro out by mistake !!
Aargghh !! NO !!!
BUT, as it turned out, it actually improved the Intro ..
Talk about Getting Away With It !
btw Wot no Ampex 406 ?
Guys, it's really beyond time to test some of Tone Empire's new AI plugins.
It’s on sale for $89 but they give u another $50 off coupon, so it’s available for $39.
I try tape emulating and every time I just think 💭 what is it supposed to be doing apart from a little saturation
@@julianhigginson5946 It's a unique combo of transformer vibe, subtle tape compression and a tiny bit of saturation. Works on some stuff but not everything.👍
Why did 15 RUclipsrs all do a video about this at the same time?
Didn't he do well?
£39 on plugin boutique
UAD showed me what a shitty company they are with this release. I was waiting for the Native version of this, and they released it at £49. Resellers instantly did it a 10er cheaper, then UAD dropped their price within a week to that. I complained and they didn't give a shit. Stole a 10er from all loyal users. So plugin is ok, UAD are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT ! I'll never buy from them again. Always use resellers. Fk UAD.
Same Here! and a plugin with the 30% of the features that the original has, a total scam!!!
Omg blablabla. Put in n4 an 102 from cupwise and voila
@@peterorany Having a shit day Peter? Go watch something that chills you out and spend less time trolling maybe? Yeah? Good. 👍