Also, I find it kind of odd that the murals are usually hidden and some even behind walls that depict the Thunderbird, as if the newer civilizations are really trying to hide the traces of past civilizations in purpose.
Yeah I definitely agree! It's strange that these murals are always hidden. Part of me wonders if Ruu's people are descendants from that ancient civilization and if their ancestors "forgot" about what happened in an attempt to protect the people from the truth.
Or maybe, the past civilizations were trying to hide something from celestia and they tried to tell people in the future what's had happened to them without celestia knowing.
It's really interesting, due to all the "enemies" on the game could be totally allies to kick the butt of the unknown goddess, i mean she apparently destroyed a variety of civilization on the past.
I've wondered that too as well. Maybe the unknown god's power is completely on a different level? Either way, it sounds like the people who do know of her are afraid of her which might explain why Venti, Zhongli, and Ei won't talk about her.
9:36 could Refer to the information known from Moonlit Bamboo Forest volume 3, where it Is said that 3 moon Goddesses shared but one love, the stars of daybreak. Also In one of Raiden Shogun Voice lines, The Traveler Reveals to Raiden that He/She used to be a Star, which we saw at the beggining of the game In genshin book "A Drunkard's Tale volume 3" there is Mention of A wasteland beyond the dominion of the deities, inhabited only by the grotesque ghostly remains of fallen gods (interestingly at 9:36 to 9:42 these murals lead us to electro Seelies), where the former palaces of the Seelie now stand empty In Records of Jueyun it is said that some people believe that Seelies are spirits of Ancient gods, and it is said that they had beautiful physical forms and possessed great wisdom and lived In citties of Ancient civilizations among Humanity in artifacts: Prayers for Illumination, Prayers for Destiny, Prayers for Wisdom and Prayers to Springtime, it is said that envoys of the gods walked among Humanity, it is also said that Envoys of the gods promised humanity Wisdom and prosperity With Seelies Possesing great Wisdom and Envoys of the gods Sharing their wisdom with Humanity and both living among humans, it is possible that the artifacts mentioning Envoys of the gods, refer to the Seelies
ahhh thank you so much for this! I can definitely see the Seelies possibly being the envoys from the gods. It's a really interesting idea and something I'll definitely have to look more into😀
I actually found some great evidence, when i was at the tsurumi island ruins I got an achievement called “ twin cities”. Are the two cities of dragonspine and tsurumi the same civilisation?
it very well could be the same! however the art styles are a bit different and the stories of each place seem to differ so it's more likely than not different civilizations
@@BitSharkGames the civilization in dragonspine was calles sal vindagnyr and was destroyed by celestia on purpurse, ive reasearched that and celestia wanted to destroy the civilisation because tjey had like a conneczion to abyss with their tree. the leylines and trees in Domains are connections to abyss but i forgot their names. I wonder which name the civilisation had in tsurumi island. And also, in dragonspine the paintings talk about angels and kings but in tsurumi island they talk about girls and boys...
I wonder if she'll have a role to play when we go after Scaramouche. She was pretty heavily involved with the Traveler and Scaramouche during that event.
@@BitSharkGames (not based on any leaks) I think she won't? I suspect that Scaramouche will be encountered again in Sumeru, where a lot if old characters might make a reappearance (Lisa, Amber, as we know they have friends over there.) Or, were meeting him in the Chasm, and it has a whole different story, Either way I think mona will be saved for Fontaine, if anything, since she seems to either be from there or has spent some time there.
haha yeah that makes sense. Just wishful thinking on my part. 😂 Seeing her juke the hell outta Scaramouche gave me so much life 😂 In all seriousness, I can't wait to see how it plays out . Sumeru is gonna be awesome!
@@BitSharkGames i know this one, many small bits of lore mentions a great flood happening in the past. It's hard to know exactly when it happen but if my memory serves right, the first kitsune «colonist» had to deal with it meaning it was pre archon war. So by this logic, the ruins weren't below ground level BEFORE the flood. So was the flood itself made to wipe down enemies and hide those remains?
Ohhh that's really interesting! I need to read up on the flood cause I haven't come across that yet but it would make sense! Celestia seems pretty intent on keeping their secrets
I've also heard of the triple goddess be represented by Diana, Selene and Hecate. Which are three moon goddesses. I think it makes more sense to see them like this rather than only Hecate, for genshin purposes at least.
Okay bear with me but in the game Control's DLC it's implied that the being who acts as our boss and maintains the sentient building which we protect is actually a parasite that the building called upon humanity to remove. Humanity thinking that the parasite was a god listened to its commands. Back to Genshin. It's implied that Celestia came from another world and usurped the original gods of Teyvat who made way for humanity. This is the civilization that Enkanomiya was part of. So what if Celestia is trying to hide the fact that they are a false rule. And each time a human civulization comes close to finding out they wipe them out and start over and forbid the new rulers from searching for the previous knowledge.
If you are taking about greek mythology. Primordial deities Nyx the goddess of the Night. Erebus the god of darkness Hemera the daughter of Nyx and Erebus, goddess of the day. Aether the son of Nyx and Erebus, god of light . Nyx is often portrayed in symbolism as a moon or stars. Aether is often portrayed in symbolism as a sun. ------------------------------- Ancient people use stars as guide to locate their destination. Seelie are the stars.
oh this is really interesting! I was looking at Roman beliefs regarding Hecate, but the greek mythology also looks applicable as well. I'll def have to look more into Aether.
I feel like something big is ganna happen when we catch up to baladeer. He knows the sky is a lie, he has the power to do something now, i wonder if he could break the sky or if the unknown god will appear to stop him.
Speaking of 5:58 Hecate has always been a sticker for me, with all the triquetras in the game, etc. But also as she’s the goddess of witchcraft and crossroads it also reminds me of the Hexenzirkel! “Crossroads” especially lines up with Alice being the guardian of Teyvat’s borders… I think the ladies of the Hex. have split up responsibilities related to the moon sisters, possibly because they’re gone now and someone has to keep up their work, or maybe there’s some way to bring them back that the ladies are working on?
Loved this Video! Great job! :) I just finished exploring the ruins and it got my 3 braincells working on max trying to decipher the lore! The ruins in inazuma are so unique, so far they're all underground (aurami, seirai and now tsurumi), I can't wait till they reveal more info, like why are there always ruin machines ? If they came from khaenri'ah how did they end up so deep in the ruins? I hope in the end we get full answers and not so many plot holes!
thanks! really appreciate it! I've also wondered that as well. My suspicion that we are going to get more information in terms of the lore in Inazuma. Mihoyo has been feeding us bits and pieces so I think over the next couple months we might get some answers.
Found your channel recently so i am going through the vids and you are amazing! I appreciate thw research and translate stuff yourself. Keep up the great work
I've been binging all of your videos. I really love your content and I appreciate the amount of research that you do! Honestly, One of the most underrated genshin channels.
At the very beginning all humankind was one unified civilization so those civilization who know the past Celestia most likely destroyed them and we can clearly see the ancient architecture of tsurumi/dragonspine/chasm khaenri'ah and most likely enkanomiya are similar except khaenri'ah all these civilization are connected to the past singular civilization. Man Celestia really not wanna leave one single witness don't they. I came here after discovering the murals it was same as dragonspine's. Edit: ohh i forget to add another thing as you said Celestia was close to humans i believe that Celestia was ruled by the first throne primordial one and when thr second one come they most likely destroyed everything it's all i can think about
If you read the byakuyakou collection you'll find out about "Phanes the Primordial One" who created the univers. I searched it and I found out this: "Phanes was the first king of the universe who handed the royal sceptre over to his daughter Nyx (Night), who in turn handed it down to her son Ouranos (Uranus) (Heaven). It was then seized by the Titan Kronos (Cronus), and afterwards by Zeus, the ultimate ruler of the cosmos. Some say Zeus devoured Phanes in order to absorb his power and redistribute it among a new generation of gods--the Olympians he would sire. " With that being said, I think it's a possibility that Zeus is our unknown God and she killed Phanes to took his power then created archons :o
the event happened befor the end ..the 3 gold stars are traveler the start with out gold is the econd crowned heir .. they came through first to save the wold but to late the first Heir came through ahorthly after corupted by the peril .and which is the heart of the abyss .. ant started taking dominace .. one of the travelers fell in love with the seele causing the moons to fight and die giving the first heir her chance to destroy the world and burry the remains hence all the ruins being burried ..Khanrih the formed and stayed hidden in the burried ruins and started rebuilding the old world under ground but was found and in order for the nnew gods that took th eplace of the moons to survive the made a contract to detroy khanrih and any apposing gods and in return they would be left alon to rule over the remaning world ....and then we com in and are thought to be a threat to unkown gods plans are stoped in are tracks .......thats it in a nut shell ..
same event in Dragon spine it was one great event that coverd the whole of tyvet .........and thats not a moon its a abyss portal and 3 travelers coming through followed by Celestia and wa sth eend of the original race and the seeles with the death of the moons ....
Theses are khanria now ruin, I was sure that the game was vary clear that the ancient civilization and structures above ground belonged to the people of khanria he before their downfall To those who might bring up the point that khanriha is below tayvat I should remind you all how many ruin guards their are across tayvat, which have been obsolete to the abyss for decades, somewhere after their civilization was destroyed, additionally we know that all the other civilizations like dragonspine and the ancient people of watatsumi originated from one general culture in the older days Whoever theses people were, we can tell that they understood and developed advanced mechanisms that were far ahead of their time The only civilization we were told utilized that was khanria
I agree that I think there used to be one general human culture that existed in the past, but a big difference between that and Khanria is that the ancient human civilization seemed to rise with help of the gods, while Khanria rose despite the gods. Another reason I belive these civilizations differ is that in one of the three boxes you get in Dragonspine or something else(not too sure exactly where the lore comes from) the priest or princess(I think) mentions something about the success of a nation without God's. (This was at the time when the Dragonspine civilization was at its tail end.) To me that could only mean Khanria. Given that information it seems that the civilization of Dragonspine was not Khanriah and even knew about the existence of Khanriah itself before the last descendents of the Dragonspine civilization finally died off.
hey uhm little request here can u make a theory about the lore so i just watched the marvel movie called eternals it was pretty boring but it did remind me of genshin lore a lot for example it had celestial and the eternals are pretty much gods and 7 of them is alive the celestials in the movie makes me understand why the abyss is uctually right and the archons are evil (well kinda some of the archons) cus the archons which went againts the celestials died for example baal
For sure will look into it! I definitely want to make a lore video on the abyss at some point. That being said, I wouldn't necessarily side with the Abyss quite yet because some of the stuff that the Abyss does is quite monstrous. If anything, the monsters and creatures of the abyss are looking to destroy Teyvat. The Alchemist Gold tried to harness the power of the abyss which would lead to the destruction of Khaenri'ah. So that's something to consider when we look at the Celestia vs Abyss situation.
Also, I find it kind of odd that the murals are usually hidden and some even behind walls that depict the Thunderbird, as if the newer civilizations are really trying to hide the traces of past civilizations in purpose.
Yeah I definitely agree! It's strange that these murals are always hidden. Part of me wonders if Ruu's people are descendants from that ancient civilization and if their ancestors "forgot" about what happened in an attempt to protect the people from the truth.
Or maybe, the past civilizations were trying to hide something from celestia and they tried to tell people in the future what's had happened to them without celestia knowing.
Those murals looks so similar to the murals in dragonspine
Oh yeah definitely! The art styles of the murals are very similar!
It's really interesting, due to all the "enemies" on the game could be totally allies to kick the butt of the unknown goddess, i mean she apparently destroyed a variety of civilization on the past.
I've wondered that too as well. Maybe the unknown god's power is completely on a different level? Either way, it sounds like the people who do know of her are afraid of her which might explain why Venti, Zhongli, and Ei won't talk about her.
Wrong…it is aether and the twin who are the destroyer of civilizations…they jump from planet to planets but end up getting trapped in teyvat.
9:36 could Refer to the information known from Moonlit Bamboo Forest volume 3, where it Is said that 3 moon Goddesses shared but one love, the stars of daybreak. Also In one of Raiden Shogun Voice lines, The Traveler Reveals to Raiden that He/She used to be a Star, which we saw at the beggining of the game
In genshin book "A Drunkard's Tale volume 3" there is Mention of A wasteland beyond the dominion of the deities, inhabited only by the grotesque ghostly remains of fallen gods (interestingly at 9:36 to 9:42 these murals lead us to electro Seelies), where the former palaces of the Seelie now stand empty
In Records of Jueyun it is said that some people believe that Seelies are spirits of Ancient gods, and it is said that they had beautiful physical forms and possessed great wisdom and lived In citties of Ancient civilizations among Humanity
in artifacts: Prayers for Illumination, Prayers for Destiny, Prayers for Wisdom and Prayers to Springtime, it is said that envoys of the gods walked among Humanity, it is also said that Envoys of the gods promised humanity Wisdom and prosperity
With Seelies Possesing great Wisdom and Envoys of the gods Sharing their wisdom with Humanity and both living among humans, it is possible that the artifacts mentioning Envoys of the gods, refer to the Seelies
ahhh thank you so much for this! I can definitely see the Seelies possibly being the envoys from the gods. It's a really interesting idea and something I'll definitely have to look more into😀
I actually found some great evidence, when i was at the tsurumi island ruins I got an achievement called “ twin cities”. Are the two cities of dragonspine and tsurumi the same civilisation?
it very well could be the same! however the art styles are a bit different and the stories of each place seem to differ so it's more likely than not different civilizations
@@BitSharkGames the civilization in dragonspine was calles sal vindagnyr and was destroyed by celestia on purpurse, ive reasearched that and celestia wanted to destroy the civilisation because tjey had like a conneczion to abyss with their tree. the leylines and trees in Domains are connections to abyss but i forgot their names. I wonder which name the civilisation had in tsurumi island. And also, in dragonspine the paintings talk about angels and kings but in tsurumi island they talk about girls and boys...
Mona, as well as the Hexan Coven (the group which both her and her Master are part of) know about the fake sky,
Thought I'd add
I wonder if she'll have a role to play when we go after Scaramouche. She was pretty heavily involved with the Traveler and Scaramouche during that event.
@@BitSharkGames (not based on any leaks) I think she won't? I suspect that Scaramouche will be encountered again in Sumeru, where a lot if old characters might make a reappearance (Lisa, Amber, as we know they have friends over there.) Or, were meeting him in the Chasm, and it has a whole different story,
Either way I think mona will be saved for Fontaine, if anything, since she seems to either be from there or has spent some time there.
haha yeah that makes sense. Just wishful thinking on my part. 😂 Seeing her juke the hell outta Scaramouche gave me so much life 😂
In all seriousness, I can't wait to see how it plays out . Sumeru is gonna be awesome!
it is interesting, why a lot of these ruins always burried below the ground level
yeah it's very odd. It's almost as if it was done on purpose to hide them from being discovered
@@BitSharkGames i know this one, many small bits of lore mentions a great flood happening in the past. It's hard to know exactly when it happen but if my memory serves right, the first kitsune «colonist» had to deal with it meaning it was pre archon war.
So by this logic, the ruins weren't below ground level BEFORE the flood. So was the flood itself made to wipe down enemies and hide those remains?
Ohhh that's really interesting! I need to read up on the flood cause I haven't come across that yet but it would make sense! Celestia seems pretty intent on keeping their secrets
Now we know why, this was a part of a whole civilization that covered the whole teyvat
I've also heard of the triple goddess be represented by Diana, Selene and Hecate. Which are three moon goddesses. I think it makes more sense to see them like this rather than only Hecate, for genshin purposes at least.
Oh yeah that could definitely be another interpretation of the three sisters.
Okay bear with me but in the game Control's DLC it's implied that the being who acts as our boss and maintains the sentient building which we protect is actually a parasite that the building called upon humanity to remove. Humanity thinking that the parasite was a god listened to its commands.
Back to Genshin. It's implied that Celestia came from another world and usurped the original gods of Teyvat who made way for humanity. This is the civilization that Enkanomiya was part of. So what if Celestia is trying to hide the fact that they are a false rule. And each time a human civulization comes close to finding out they wipe them out and start over and forbid the new rulers from searching for the previous knowledge.
If you are taking about greek mythology. Primordial deities
Nyx the goddess of the Night.
Erebus the god of darkness
Hemera the daughter of Nyx and Erebus, goddess of the day.
Aether the son of Nyx and Erebus, god of light .
Nyx is often portrayed in symbolism as a moon or stars.
Aether is often portrayed in symbolism as a sun.
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Ancient people use stars as guide to locate their destination.
Seelie are the stars.
oh this is really interesting! I was looking at Roman beliefs regarding Hecate, but the greek mythology also looks applicable as well. I'll def have to look more into Aether.
I feel like something big is ganna happen when we catch up to baladeer. He knows the sky is a lie, he has the power to do something now, i wonder if he could break the sky or if the unknown god will appear to stop him.
Definitely! Things are really ramping up for inazuma
How do you have fewer than 100 Subscribers?
Great video!
I'd love to see another that just discusses the lore around the Seelies!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me!
Also, I'm definitely planning a Seelie video just need to do the research for it haha
Speaking of 5:58 Hecate has always been a sticker for me, with all the triquetras in the game, etc. But also as she’s the goddess of witchcraft and crossroads it also reminds me of the Hexenzirkel! “Crossroads” especially lines up with Alice being the guardian of Teyvat’s borders… I think the ladies of the Hex. have split up responsibilities related to the moon sisters, possibly because they’re gone now and someone has to keep up their work, or maybe there’s some way to bring them back that the ladies are working on?
Loved this Video! Great job! :)
I just finished exploring the ruins and it got my 3 braincells working on max trying to decipher the lore!
The ruins in inazuma are so unique, so far they're all underground (aurami, seirai and now tsurumi), I can't wait till they reveal more info, like why are there always ruin machines ? If they came from khaenri'ah how did they end up so deep in the ruins? I hope in the end we get full answers and not so many plot holes!
thanks! really appreciate it! I've also wondered that as well. My suspicion that we are going to get more information in terms of the lore in Inazuma. Mihoyo has been feeding us bits and pieces so I think over the next couple months we might get some answers.
Found your channel recently so i am going through the vids and you are amazing! I appreciate thw research and translate stuff yourself. Keep up the great work
ahhh thank you so much! :D
Your voice spreads positive energy, I love it 💖
ahhh!! thank you so much! :D
I've been binging all of your videos. I really love your content and I appreciate the amount of research that you do! Honestly, One of the most underrated genshin channels.
ahhh that really means a lot to me! thank you so much!!!! ☺
@@BitSharkGames you're most welcome
At the very beginning all humankind was one unified civilization so those civilization who know the past Celestia most likely destroyed them and we can clearly see the ancient architecture of tsurumi/dragonspine/chasm khaenri'ah and most likely enkanomiya are similar except khaenri'ah all these civilization are connected to the past singular civilization. Man Celestia really not wanna leave one single witness don't they. I came here after discovering the murals it was same as dragonspine's.
Edit: ohh i forget to add another thing as you said Celestia was close to humans i believe that Celestia was ruled by the first throne primordial one and when thr second one come they most likely destroyed everything it's all i can think about
This is a realy well made video u deserve more subs :)
you're too kind! really appreciate it!!!
You explained this greatly :D
thank you!!! :D
If you read the byakuyakou collection you'll find out about "Phanes the Primordial One" who created the univers.
I searched it and I found out this:
"Phanes was the first king of the universe who handed the royal sceptre over to his daughter Nyx (Night), who in turn handed it down to her son Ouranos (Uranus) (Heaven). It was then seized by the Titan Kronos (Cronus), and afterwards by Zeus, the ultimate ruler of the cosmos. Some say Zeus devoured Phanes in order to absorb his power and redistribute it among a new generation of gods--the Olympians he would sire. "
With that being said, I think it's a possibility that Zeus is our unknown God and she killed Phanes to took his power then created archons :o
It seems like the lore before the archons was based on Greek Mythology so this definitely could be the case!!!
the event happened befor the end ..the 3 gold stars are traveler the start with out gold is the econd crowned heir .. they came through first to save the wold but to late the first Heir came through ahorthly after corupted by the peril .and which is the heart of the abyss .. ant started taking dominace .. one of the travelers fell in love with the seele causing the moons to fight and die giving the first heir her chance to destroy the world and burry the remains hence all the ruins being burried ..Khanrih the formed and stayed hidden in the burried ruins and started rebuilding the old world under ground but was found and in order for the nnew gods that took th eplace of the moons to survive the made a contract to detroy khanrih and any apposing gods and in return they would be left alon to rule over the remaning world ....and then we com in and are thought to be a threat to unkown gods plans are stoped in are tracks .......thats it in a nut shell ..
Good, nice theory
Cool video thank you for sharing this to us it’s really interesting but I also wonder why you haven’t got more subs by now? Hmm..🧐🤨
haha thanks! just grateful to even have people stop by and watch 😊
same event in Dragon spine it was one great event that coverd the whole of tyvet .........and thats not a moon its a abyss portal and 3 travelers coming through followed by Celestia and wa sth eend of the original race and the seeles with the death of the moons ....
If I'm not wrong, Diana is a moon goddess.
Yep! Diana is considered a moon goddess
Theses are khanria now ruin, I was sure that the game was vary clear that the ancient civilization and structures above ground belonged to the people of khanria he before their downfall
To those who might bring up the point that khanriha is below tayvat I should remind you all how many ruin guards their are across tayvat, which have been obsolete to the abyss for decades, somewhere after their civilization was destroyed, additionally we know that all the other civilizations like dragonspine and the ancient people of watatsumi originated from one general culture in the older days
Whoever theses people were, we can tell that they understood and developed advanced mechanisms that were far ahead of their time
The only civilization we were told utilized that was khanria
Khaenri'ah in general is something that's always fascinated me but with Enkanomiya we definitely get more information on it!
I agree that I think there used to be one general human culture that existed in the past, but a big difference between that and Khanria is that the ancient human civilization seemed to rise with help of the gods, while Khanria rose despite the gods. Another reason I belive these civilizations differ is that in one of the three boxes you get in Dragonspine or something else(not too sure exactly where the lore comes from) the priest or princess(I think) mentions something about the success of a nation without God's. (This was at the time when the Dragonspine civilization was at its tail end.) To me that could only mean Khanria. Given that information it seems that the civilization of Dragonspine was not Khanriah and even knew about the existence of Khanriah itself before the last descendents of the Dragonspine civilization finally died off.
hey uhm little request here can u make a theory about the lore
so i just watched the marvel movie called eternals it was pretty boring but it did remind me of genshin lore a lot
for example it had celestial and the eternals are pretty much gods and 7 of them is alive
the celestials in the movie makes me understand
why the abyss is uctually right and the archons
are evil
(well kinda some of the archons)
cus the archons which went againts the celestials died
for example baal
For sure will look into it! I definitely want to make a lore video on the abyss at some point. That being said, I wouldn't necessarily side with the Abyss quite yet because some of the stuff that the Abyss does is quite monstrous. If anything, the monsters and creatures of the abyss are looking to destroy Teyvat. The Alchemist Gold tried to harness the power of the abyss which would lead to the destruction of Khaenri'ah. So that's something to consider when we look at the Celestia vs Abyss situation.
Ya know the spiral abyss is on a crescent shaped island… Is it all connected?
yeah that's pretty sus haha I definitely think we'll learn more as time goes on
Smoldering remain remind me of tevyat chapter
oh for sure! there's a lot of connections between the teyvat chapter preview and these murals
:)