Audeze LCD-X and LCD-XC 2021 Update Review

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
  • Audeze LCD-X: www.headphones.com/products/a...
    Audeze LCD-XC: www.headphones.com/products/a...
    Audeze LCD-X Frequency Response & EQ Profiles: forum.headphones.com/t/audeze...
    Audeze LCD-XC Frequency Response & EQ Profiles: forum.headphones.com/t/audeze...
    LCD-X and XC Serial Number Reference: www.head-fi.org/threads/lcd-x...
    How to read frequency response:
    • How to Read Frequency ...
    Become an expert on headphones: www.headphones.com/pages/rese...
    Learn about headphone measurements and frequency response: www.headphones.com/pages/meas...
    How frequency response impacts sound signature: www.headphones.com/pages/how-...
    Podcast: theheadphoneshow.fireside.fm/
    Twitter: / headph1show
    Twitter: / resolvereviews
    Source equipment
    Amp - SPL Phonitor X: www.headphones.com/products/s...
    Amp - Cayin IHA-6: www.headphones.com/products/c...
    Amp - Schiit Magni Heresy: www.schiit.com/products
    Amp - Drop THX AAA One: drop.com/buy/drop-thx-aaa-one...
    Amp - Ampsandsound Kenzie OG: ampsandsound.com/products/ken...
    DAC - Soncoz LA-QXD1: hifigo.com/products/soncoz-la...
    DAP - iBasso DX220: www.headphones.com/products/i...
    DAC - Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro: www.headphones.com/products/m...
    Headphone Recommendations:
    Entry level
    AKG K371: www.akg.com/Headphones/Profes...
    Sennheiser HD 560S: www.headphones.com/products/s...
    Sennheiser HD6XX: drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennhei...
    Midrange
    HiFiMAN Sundara: www.headphones.com/products/h...
    Focal Elex: drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-focal...
    High End
    Audeze LCD-2 (with EQ): www.headphones.com/products/a...
    Audeze LCD-X and XC: www.headphones.com/products/a...
    Focal Clear: www.headphones.com/products/f...
    HiFiMAN Arya: www.headphones.com/products/h...
    Sennheiser HD 800S: www.headphones.com/products/s...
    ZMF Auteur: shop.zmfheadphones.com/collec...
    HEDDphone (heavy): www.headphones.com/products/h...
    Very high end
    Rosson Audio RAD-0: www.headphones.com/products/r...
    ZMF Verite Closed: shop.zmfheadphones.com/collec...
    Summit
    Focal Utopia: www.headphones.com/products/f...
    HiFiMAN Susvara: www.headphones.com/products/h...
    IEM Recommendations:
    Moondrop Blessing 2: www.headphones.com/products/m...
    Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk: shenzhenaudio.com/products/mo...
    DUNU SA6: www.headphones.com/products/d...
    Thieaudio Monarch: www.headphones.com/products/t...
    Campfire Andromeda 2020: www.headphones.com/products/c...
    64 Audio U12t: www.headphones.com/products/6...
    Empire Ears Odin: www.headphones.com/products/e...
    00:00 - Intro
    00:43 - Source Considerations
    01:15 - Design Changes
    04:28 - Sound: Objective, LCD-X
    09:00 - Sound: Objective, LCD-XC
    13:11 - Sound: Tuning Summary
    14:24 - Sound: Technical
    16:46 - A Note About Revisions In General
    19:14 - Conclusion

Комментарии • 292

  • @edwardhalterman9371
    @edwardhalterman9371 2 года назад +3

    Love your reviews, they’re by far the most objective and in depth I’ve seen from any audio RUclipsr. Your voice is also very relaxing :)

  • @bardenhick2121
    @bardenhick2121 3 года назад +55

    Great change for those who dislike EQ or have setups where EQ is not possible or not easily implemented

    • @gossipmime7648
      @gossipmime7648 5 месяцев назад +1

      I dislike when eq is brought up during reviews.

    • @Shaarpest
      @Shaarpest 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@gossipmime7648 many headphones do not eq well, one of the great benefits of planar magnetic drivers and especially the audeze ones are that they can be tuned to the listener's preference to rather extreme levels without distorting or losing detail. There has also never been an objectively neutral pair of headphones since they interact with people's ears and heads differently, so eq can and will often make headphones sound more natural and lifelike.

    • @CatnamedMittens
      @CatnamedMittens 4 месяца назад

      ​@@gossipmime7648it defeats the purpose of a headphone review

  • @digitall321
    @digitall321 2 года назад +20

    I wanted to say how much I appreciate you posting the EQ profiles for both the LCD-X and LCD-XC. I've been testing both for the past couple of weeks. I really wanted to like the XC because of sound bleed and environment noises, but they were just too bright and I felt myself gravitating more towards the LCD-X. I tried your initial EQ for the XC and it certainly did help, but if was your 2nd EQ posted for them that really got me to love them. I love these so much now that I've been re-listening to my favorite playlists. They sound amazing, better than the LCD-X (even with the posted EQ profiles for it). After trying out the DT 990 Pro, Sundara, Arya, LCD-X, and LCD-XC, I have finally decided on keeping the XC for sure. Thank you once again.

    • @eLcHiNoChannel
      @eLcHiNoChannel Год назад +1

      Got mine recently and love them.

    • @TaiLe-dr5ve
      @TaiLe-dr5ve Год назад

      Hi friend,
      How to get EQ?

    • @Barnsey87
      @Barnsey87 4 месяца назад

      Look in description ​@@TaiLe-dr5ve

  • @marksalamon619
    @marksalamon619 11 месяцев назад +1

    Superb review - thanks a million. For several months I've been struggling with "analysis paralysis" in my attempt to choose among headphones. The models I was considering had many fine qualities, but I couldn't quite escape the feeling that in various ways they lacked some feature I was hoping to find. Your evaluation of these Audeze LCD-X and XC headphones has helped persuade me that these models offer a feature set that fulfills nearly every specification on my wish list. (Perhaps their only detriment is their weight, but I figure I'll just be willing to develop stronger neck muscles...)

  • @frankspark
    @frankspark 3 года назад +1

    This is a great video. I purchased the LCD-X around Spring 2020 and use it with the below equipment. I almost always turn the outermost knobs (don't remember freq response) of the Schiit Loki to the max to get what I perceive to be the right sound from the headphones for music.

  • @rawrj
    @rawrj 3 года назад +11

    Picked up the LCD-X last month. I really wanted to wait for this review but you had already mentioned enough nice things about them to make me give it a shot. Glad I did.

    • @SussyBaka-em9rq
      @SussyBaka-em9rq 3 года назад +1

      Do you think for an 18 year old recluse audio enthusiast who might just be getting a job online stuck in a pandemic upgrading from HD58X+Fosi Q4 these would be worth it? I am interested in Planar but want more Bass and Soundscape than my 58X, and also what Amp+Dac would you recommend? I would use speakers (I actually have Mirage Speakers) but I can't use them much as my Ma would get upset.

    • @rawrj
      @rawrj 3 года назад

      @@SussyBaka-em9rq Hmm, I actually have a 58x and I would say the LCD-X is way better in terms of bass (I EQ of course), as far as soundstaging goes the LCD-X is definitely better but not mindblowing better.
      You will definitely want to upgrade the Q4. If you don't care about balanced you could go with the standard magni 3+/modi schiit stack. I personally used the JDS Labs atom amp/dac for a long time (even tried with the LCD-X and it had plenty of juice, plus it's clean enough for IEMs if you go that route).
      I did upgrade to the Topping A30 Pro/D30 Pro which I like but if you wanted a stack with good power for less I really like the iFi Zen Can / Zen Dac that a friend of mine owns.

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 года назад

      @@rawrj LCD-X really doesn't need powerful amp and can be driven off nearly anything. Got FiiO K5 Pro and it works well with it. However planning to get a better DAC and just use K5 Pro just as an amp.

    • @rawrj
      @rawrj 2 года назад

      @@teemuvesala9575 it's surprisingly easy to drive, with the JDS Atom amp I didn't even need high gain and it was louder at 12 O'clock than some of my IEMs. Only reason I upgraded is future proofing; I intend to own a lot more headsets than the LCD-X, 58x, and 6XX.

  • @DBSTH0R
    @DBSTH0R 3 года назад +8

    Great video, love the red squares for easier following which part of the FR you're referring to. I am looking for a planar to supplement my Clear Pro. The 2021 XC seems perfect. :)

  • @benjamincraig7198
    @benjamincraig7198 3 года назад +2

    Great summary Resolve! I'm happy I have the 2021 version, I knew it was better, hehe

  • @AQUPAS
    @AQUPAS Год назад +1

    The LCD-X 2021 look like a very appealing set of cans I may invest in, thanks for all the great info!

  • @ryanherrera9171
    @ryanherrera9171 3 года назад +3

    The Audeze LCD-X 2021 version is fantastic, I dig mine.

  • @OblivionIce
    @OblivionIce Год назад +1

    I could listen to you talk about headphones for way too long. I find this all fascinating.

  • @eLcHiNoChannel
    @eLcHiNoChannel Год назад

    After binge watching many of your videos and doing quite a bit of research in my search for an end-game game/music setup, I believe this video is the one that got me to pull the trigger. I am anxiously waiting for the LCD-XC (along with the LCD-XG's cable kit and the Shiit Hel 2E). Exceptional videos from you and the entire team at The Headphone Show. Thank you!

    • @TheHEADPHONEShow
      @TheHEADPHONEShow  Год назад +2

      Just be sure to give some EQ profiles a try with these. You really can get a lot more out of them.

    • @eLcHiNoChannel
      @eLcHiNoChannel Год назад

      @@TheHEADPHONEShow Thank you for your reply. Absolutely, I will definitely EQ them based on your recommendations. All in all, would you agree that is a good "end-game" setup for music and gaming? - I understand it is impossible to talk absolutes on this topic. I am looking for whether or not I am getting the best value at that price bracket. Obviously, in my opinion I am, but I welcome feedback. Thanks again.

  • @DonHamlin
    @DonHamlin 3 года назад

    Excellent, super informative and helpful review.

  • @intelligence6900
    @intelligence6900 3 года назад +53

    Audeze is the best man. I’ve tried focal clear mg 800s and everything in between. The audeze LCD X 2021 won it for me and it did it easily. It can be super resolving or bass cannons with incredible full sound the drivers feel like they have no limitation.

    • @Alkyno
      @Alkyno 2 года назад +5

      Hello, I can't becide between the Focal Clear MG and the Audeze LCD-X 2021, how would you compare them? I mainly listen to metalcore, EDM & trap music. Thank you :)

    • @intelligence6900
      @intelligence6900 2 года назад +17

      @@Alkyno the focal is a toy compared to the audeze. The focal is slightly clearer if you will in its audio presentation at low volumes, but as soon are you turn up the volume there is instant distortion, no bass, ok sound stage, a bit lighter then the lcd x but the materials feels like a toy compared to the lcd x 2021
      The lcd x is the most premium well built industrial design, endless bass I mean literally I don’t know what one has to do to distort the sound they are incredible. Sound stage ok. Really meaty sound presentation at any volume. With the lcd x u can do critical listening or have bass cannons on your head with excellent sound presentation. To kind of short this reply I’ll put it like this . When I got the focal clear mg I thought to my self wtf is this shit ? When I got the audeze lcd x 2021 I said to my self end game achieved after soooo long of searching. Edm, rap. Rock. Strings vocals idc the audeze can do it all . The focal has a slight advantage in vocals maybe ? But I would give that category to sennhiser all day anyway. My recommendation is audeze lcd x for overall best headphone and he 800s for soundstage/ vocal but remember that sennhiser has no bass like focal.

    • @Alkyno
      @Alkyno 2 года назад +7

      @@intelligence6900 thank you so much for the detailed answer. I was already leaning towards the LCD-X but now my choice is obvious!

    • @mobcrusher4193
      @mobcrusher4193 2 года назад +1

      Mine are coming after 14 days

    • @BrJD-ii4iv
      @BrJD-ii4iv 2 года назад +2

      @@intelligence6900 Ur analogy is Spot On! All focals distorts and the 800s are the worst bass for high end headphones.

  • @jasonk8311
    @jasonk8311 2 года назад +5

    I just bought the LCD-XC and honestly did not like them at all and was about to send them back until I applied your EQ settings. They sound SO MUCH better now. Thank you very much for posting your settings!

    • @mobcrusher4193
      @mobcrusher4193 2 года назад +3

      The same happened to me a week ago, I thought I wasted 1200 bucks on my lcd x but after eq I love them

    • @David_Lamaz
      @David_Lamaz Год назад

      Where you guys apply this EQ? Is it in their reveal app? How to EQ them one time forever?

  • @SpenRDA
    @SpenRDA 3 года назад +1

    Great timing on this review bc I'm trying to decide between the two rn

    • @AP-nc5ek
      @AP-nc5ek 3 года назад +1

      If you're in a room where there is noises happening around you get the xc and if your in a quiet room get x,
      I got the x andYou can’t go wrong either way both are great headphones imo

  • @Rubmaster
    @Rubmaster 3 года назад +12

    Ah man, that was a close call! After a month of research, I was just about to buy the new X. But after this video I'm going for the XC. I have the 2C. And I'm using it for movies and detailed music listening. And when I'm laying on the couch in pillow heaven. There have been times, where I needed to be cautious to not cover the open back design (the sound becomes weird). So for that reason. I'm going for the close backs 😊

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 2 года назад

      Did you get them?
      How is the sub bass?

  • @rustyshackleford8063
    @rustyshackleford8063 2 года назад

    Great review man thank you. Helped me out.

  • @metal571
    @metal571 3 года назад +76

    👀

    • @SussyBaka-em9rq
      @SussyBaka-em9rq 3 года назад +1

      Do you think for an 18 year old recluse audio enthusiast who might just be getting a job online stuck in a pandemic upgrading from HD58X+Fosi Q4 these would be worth it? I am interested in Planar but want more Bass and Soundscape than my 58X, and also what Amp+Dac would you recommend? I would use speakers (I actually have Mirage Speakers) but I can't use them much as my Ma would get upset.

    • @intelligence6900
      @intelligence6900 3 года назад +2

      @@SussyBaka-em9rq planar has good bass when you move way up in the price bracket. I would say go with x2HR for amp dac go with ifi zen dac or zen can with true bass / x bass. I use audeze lcd X with ifi zen stack my self. But the setup I mentioned above is great too.

    • @brooksphillips2234
      @brooksphillips2234 3 года назад +2

      @@SussyBaka-em9rq I pair my lcd x with my dx300 or chord mojo. The mojo is much cheaper and sounds amazing with the lcd x.

    • @Rubmaster
      @Rubmaster 3 года назад

      @@SussyBaka-em9rq The 2 answers you already got is grate! I hear good things about the Mojo. have the 2C and the new XC. The 2C pairs grate with the Zen Can Signature, as it gives more bass and ads a little detail with True bass (since it's a dark headphone). But it can't compare the the XC paired with the RME ADI 2 FS. (More detail and cleaner bass, witch can be tuned up to 11). But that's an expensive amp.

    • @jeffberger5773
      @jeffberger5773 2 года назад

      @@Rubmaster I have the 2021 lcdx and I have a chord mojo and it sounds great, I just bought a kann alpha dap, I was worried about trying to drive the lcdx with a dap but it sounds great with the kann alpha too.

  • @taidee
    @taidee 3 года назад +1

    Great review man, I’m getting used to this 🤓.

  • @GSwiftty
    @GSwiftty 3 года назад +3

    I was just curious about the new ones!

  • @piratemousey
    @piratemousey 3 года назад +1

    I purchased an lcd x 2021 last week. Blown away.(using balanced dual cable for pono)

    • @piratemousey
      @piratemousey 3 года назад

      @Ted Vreden pono. Its a portable music player

  • @prabinpaudel5572
    @prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад +39

    Guess I should start training my neck again. 😂

    • @arancourt5623
      @arancourt5623 3 года назад +2

      Again? I only started working out so I could safely headbang without causing muscular damage in my neck

    • @prabinpaudel5572
      @prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад +4

      @@arancourt5623 I had started working out since I filled the form for lcd x giveaway. I had paused after I didn't win. Now I'll resume since I feel like buying lcd xc once I save up enough.. 😂

    • @brooksphillips2234
      @brooksphillips2234 3 года назад +1

      @@prabinpaudel5572 use the Klarna app. I used it to get my lcd x. I bought a $1000 gift certificate and paid $250 every 2 weeks until paid off and then paid the rest with my debit card. I've also used it to get Andromeda 2020.

    • @prabinpaudel5572
      @prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад +6

      @@brooksphillips2234 in 3rd world its different my friend. Food and clothing are super cheap while electronics and vehicles are super expensive here. I work part time as a high school teacher. 2hours everyday. And my pay is 170 dollars a month.. An average full time pay is 500 dollars a month. So the investment in electronics is always scary to us. I use 240 dollar phone and have an 270 dollar audio setup at present. It's pretty weird here. Thanks for the suggestion though. One of my friends in USA is deep in this hobby it would help him. ☺

  • @blitzkreig000
    @blitzkreig000 3 года назад +9

    Really glad you brought up the changes. From my experience my LCD-X 2021 is more resolving, has better dynamics, and overall performs better than my Focal Clears. When I got the Clears I always heard it was a better performer than the LCD-X, but after ABing I can confidently say the X is noticeably better in every category other than timbre and comfort. The Clears sound more natural and has more correct tonality.
    Tested both with no EQ so I imagine the X will sound even better.

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab 3 года назад

      Does EQuing allows to match Clear's tonality without losses? From the curve I find the Lcd-x flat but I hope the peaks in the treble are fixable.

    • @blitzkreig000
      @blitzkreig000 3 года назад +1

      @@OptLab from my experience the FR of the X can be altered substantially via EQ. It just seems like planars response much better to EQ due to lower harmonic distortion, but I could be wrong on that. I also have a pair of LCD-i3s and once EQed it was simply sublime.
      Of course YMMV!!

    • @OptLab
      @OptLab 3 года назад

      @@blitzkreig000 Thanks. I'm going to test the LCD-X. Though I have the feeling they will be to heavy for my taste. Probably leaning towards Hifiman although I try not to buy chinese at all

  • @SmashKuro
    @SmashKuro 3 года назад +3

    Finally! I was waiting for this Review since you teased it in the Live Stream. I'm thinking about buying a high end Headphone. Was looking at HD800S, Focal, Arya, Auteur, Aeolus and others. Maybe this Review will convince me to go for the LCD-X (+ Rebel Amp).
    Now the only question is X or XC. Guess I have to test both of them side by side.

    • @Florianski
      @Florianski 3 года назад +1

      If i may suggest one look at the shure srh1840 it absolutely compeets with the hd800s and the clear in my opinion. I have all three and i kinda like the 1840 the best. Also they weigh only 270grams without cable wich is amazing for longer sessions. And the best thing is that it costs literally three times lessbthan the sennheiser or the focal.

    • @1ce2berg
      @1ce2berg 3 года назад +3

      I say Arya

  • @laszlokiss3578
    @laszlokiss3578 2 года назад +4

    thanks for the great review 😎 how is the soundstage of th lcd-xc compared to the lcd-x and the Arya?

  • @jugedredd94
    @jugedredd94 2 года назад +4

    Great review! How would the XC compare to the Denon 9200?

  • @theprinceofeverything1975
    @theprinceofeverything1975 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this video! I bet you were tired of me asking the difference between these and my maple xc's 😂. You're the best

  • @neonether
    @neonether 2 года назад +1

    Very helpful...vendor claimed they sent me the "older version", or pre-2021 version, but per this serial no. reference, I actually have the newer config model, which I'm assuming is what is the 2021 version. To be sure, because I need to be, I'm going to buy them again, this time the new 2021 version from another vendor and check the serial and compare. If anyone has questions about their version, hopefully I can answer them. Thanks for this important info!

  • @mightytison
    @mightytison 2 года назад +2

    I do love my new XC, but after watching the video again I see you mention you just do a few filters on the XC. This is about 12:43 in the video. When I click the link above to the forums I only see a full 10 band filter recommendation. Would you mind sharing the simple 3 to 5 band EQ that you would recommend? I would like to EQ as minimal as possible.

  • @LorenzoNW
    @LorenzoNW 3 года назад +1

    Hi Andrew, can you please comment on the difference in soundstage between the LCD-X and LCD-XC? And is the bass response now similar in the current models? As I recall, in previous versions the bass from the LCD-X sounded looser while the LCD-X sounded tighter, punchier, and better defined. Thank you

  • @darthdurkelthewise320
    @darthdurkelthewise320 3 года назад +1

    I think these are overlooked due to all the yammering about the weight of Audeze hp, etc.
    To your point about out of the box/no eq FR, these are the best price to performance hp that Audeze has on tap.
    I really like my XCs and I like not feeling the need to eq if I do t want to be tethered to a computer. Furthermore, I can say that the carbon fiber headband upgrade improves the weight a fair amount also.
    Although the $200 price point stings but its well worth it IMO.
    Great overview man 👍🏻

    • @gilcarag274
      @gilcarag274 2 года назад

      How much weight reduction with this headband, please ?

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle 3 года назад

    Love the lightness of my MX4's and you get all the detail.

  • @RayanAbedin
    @RayanAbedin 3 года назад +10

    How do these compare with the LCD-2? Having trouble deciding between the two

  • @KojiCO-ConvinceM
    @KojiCO-ConvinceM 2 года назад +2

    Currently reviewing the XC along side the Stelia and Vc, That boost in the upper midrange and the slight spike below 6K plus the air, is, just, to much. Stelia is more tecnical but for the pricepoint jeeeees
    so glad these now are here and they can perform, that airea of pricepoint has been barren for so long, but we will see how it comes out aggenst the big boys in the coming weeks at the desk.

  • @Suboceanicos
    @Suboceanicos 3 года назад

    great great review, for listening at low volume in general what headphone do you recommend ?

  • @markeastman1893
    @markeastman1893 Год назад +1

    These used to be my favorite cans prior to the major changed they made somewhere around d 2019. I purchased the current version in October 2022. As a starting point, I had to cut treble by 6db and boost bass by 9db. They still don't have the bass kick the older versions had. I can't believe Audeze changed these so dramatically. They seem to accept the heavy eq, so I haven't decided if I'll keep them.

  • @luffyzhou1048
    @luffyzhou1048 3 года назад +3

    Could you compare the lcd-XC 2021 with sony mdr-z1r? Especially the bass, thank you!!

  • @Cielinky
    @Cielinky 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad Audeze innovates on their long running models but this is disheartening as an LCD-X 2020 owner as all these revisions fix the small issues I have with older versions. They should really have some sort of trade in program if you purchase a pair close to the release of a new revision as there is a small market for this hobby. The weight changes, the revision of the pads, and upgrading to a carbon fiber headband seem like it would really improve the listening comfort of my current LCD-X with the weight reduction and shortening the distance of the pads.

  • @bitterbuffalo8997
    @bitterbuffalo8997 3 года назад

    Carhartt hat is back baby!!!

  • @KindredGh0st
    @KindredGh0st 2 года назад +1

    Sig sauer does the same thing... very quiet rolling changes. All while denying there's been problems.

  • @marekkouril7134
    @marekkouril7134 3 года назад +3

    Do you think that LCD-X 2021 is on the same level as Meze Empyrean?
    Thanks.

  • @themastroiannis
    @themastroiannis 2 года назад

    Avantone Planar? would be nice to finally get a serious review of the Avantones, and comparison to the LCD-2

  • @maxhirtz
    @maxhirtz 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for the EQ suggestions for the XC, it sounds better. I was wondering why you suggest EQing down 11k rather than 12k or 13k where the peak seems to be. I am new to EQ so was just curious!

    • @dan-qe1tb
      @dan-qe1tb 2 года назад +1

      Technically, you are correct, but Audeze will send you the frequency response curve for your individual headphones on request, meaning that his general advice about there being a peak over 10 kHz is correct. The specific advice, may not apply to others. The peak on my individual pair, is at 10.1 kHz. I can't hear over 13.5 kHz anymore due to my age, so any peak in that area is welcome to me. I hadn't spent as much time eq'ing over 10k, as I had at 4.1k, due to the content in most music above 10k being rather light compared to the midrange. Coldplay's "Politik", with its prominent cymbals, is one track that I'd used to test over 10k. I had ended up cooking up a response for mine, that was very close to that of the Reveal+ plugin, using the Harman curve to compare against.

  • @ideoidiom
    @ideoidiom 3 года назад +9

    Any chance you could find an old LCD X outfitted with the new pads to isolate the FR changes done to the drivers? I'd imagine legacy LCD X owners would be very interested in the measurements.

  • @proProcrastinatooor
    @proProcrastinatooor 3 года назад +3

    In terms of detail retrieval, LCD x vs Focal Clear (MG), who wins?

  • @Someone-ig8ct
    @Someone-ig8ct 2 года назад

    Does the leather and leather-free ear pads have noticeable sonic differences? Also do you know if all LCD X that come in economy travel case have 2021 revisions? Including b stock ones.

  • @mahavakyas002
    @mahavakyas002 3 года назад

    which one would you recommend if we already have the Sennheiser HD800? Which Audeze complements that the best? I want the LCD-X but is the XC "better" if I already have the HD800?

  • @Deus_Almighty
    @Deus_Almighty 3 года назад +9

    Could you make an updated comparison video of some of the best closed-back headphones ? Like LCD-XC, LCD-2 closed, Stellia, Celestee, Vérité closed, Eikon, Aeon 2 noire, HD 820, TH900mk2...
    That would be great! :D

    • @markrussellsmith
      @markrussellsmith 3 года назад +4

      Would be good to add the denon d9200 to the mix

  • @cussyrichards6121
    @cussyrichards6121 3 года назад +1

    Does this pad revision also apply to the LCD2 Classic?

  • @the-Alexandrus
    @the-Alexandrus 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for your great reviews! Could you also compare these ones with a gaming edition -GX!? And to make it clear, LCD-X is worth the money compered to the LCD-2C. I didn't have a chance to hear to both of them at a time. What is your preference: LCD-X 2021 or Ananda? Mainly for rock, pop and classics.

    • @thebadburrito1394
      @thebadburrito1394 2 года назад

      The GX is the best out of the 2c, 2, and GX. Though, I wouldn't really consider the 2C. The X is a fairly substantial upgrade to the GX as well.
      As far as Ananda vs X, the X is better. Ananda still has a weird FR, and the XS kind of makes it redundant. The X is an improvement across the board and doesn't have that compressed sound the Ananda does.

  • @hoodwinky1
    @hoodwinky1 2 года назад

    Is there anything that the original revision of the LCD-X would lack, if simliarly EQ'd to the LCD-X 2021 version?

  • @JustHackingAround
    @JustHackingAround 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for the review. However I never understand people talking about low frequencies being "beyond the limits of human hearing". You can feel bass beyond what the ear drums themselves pick up, so it still matters. It can definitely affect the listening experience even if you can't hear it in the normal sense.

    • @villegas24
      @villegas24 Год назад

      Totally agree, what I enjoy the most about Audeze is the slam of the driver and not only the sound. I feel like the slam “tickles” my ear drums

    • @one-rv2bx
      @one-rv2bx 4 месяца назад

      You can't hear under 20Hz, and you won't feel it from headphones either.

  • @medwaystudios
    @medwaystudios 2 года назад

    Is it recommended to upgrade to the new pads for owners of the original Lcd-x for the new tuning? Or does your old eq curve for them accomplish the same thing?

  • @Finecabinets1
    @Finecabinets1 3 года назад

    Good stuff

  • @chrisselner5005
    @chrisselner5005 3 года назад

    Its completely different then? No huge hole in the mids like the previous. Good bass too.

  • @arthurhaywood2184
    @arthurhaywood2184 3 года назад +1

    A. What took them so long to get to this point?
    B. Will they be offering upgrades to owners of older versions?

  • @jwglista
    @jwglista 2 года назад +2

    I’m thinking about trying the new LCD-X. I’ve stayed away from Audeze for a while due to the weight/comfort issues. Maybe the solution is to add a “neck day” into my weight training split to prepare for these.

    • @thomasmleahy6218
      @thomasmleahy6218 2 года назад

      Gotta add an endurance workout, you know, like a long run, but for your neck.
      If all else fails, a medical halo apparatus and hang them offa dat
      (kidding).

  • @marc8vino
    @marc8vino Год назад

    Looking to another options from focal clear mg and Arya stealths. Using for mixing and mastering. If I get these and EQ using the RME 2/4 DAC would that not be better than software EQ? What frequencies do you suggest I adjust to get the most accurate sound? Would the MM-500's be better and what frequencies would that one need to adjust?

  • @SatanDynastyKiller
    @SatanDynastyKiller 2 года назад +1

    My LCD-XC arrived last week, enjoying them so far…

  • @04yellowjacket
    @04yellowjacket 3 года назад +1

    Great overview and summation of the changes. I love to EQ everything, but sometimes I don't want to 'have to' EQ. Particularly when I am traveling or at work. I sold my previous LCD-XC for this reason alone. Yes, I will even wear these or my Stellia, E-MU Teaks etc at Starbucks. I was on the fence about ordering these 2021 LCD-XC until I saw this breakdown. Order placed!

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 2 года назад +1

      How do you like them?

    • @04yellowjacket
      @04yellowjacket 2 года назад

      @@ChrisKeyman To my ears and preferences, they are amazing. Even better than the 2018 version. I still add a bass shelf for certain genres, but these are overall closer to a Harman 'neutral' (without bass shelf) frequency response than any Audeze or closed back I have heard. I have heard every high end to TOTL closed back headphone available and this is my favorite. I have even heard the LCD-5, Susvara, HE1000, CRBN and again, to my ears, these are right up there. Although I would fully understand someone preferring another closed back like the Stellia or VC (not the DCA Stealth though, these are not in the same class, way overpriced for their sound).

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 2 года назад +1

      @@04yellowjacket thanks man.
      I am looking for a headphones for mixing and mastering with a good sub bass.

    • @04yellowjacket
      @04yellowjacket 2 года назад

      @@ChrisKeyman I would say the XC is basically perfect for that because the sub bass quality is about as good as it gets, but it is not under/over emphasized, helping you avoid under/over emphasizing it in your final product. Only one way to find out really though. Get em on your head.

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 2 года назад

      @@04yellowjacket do you know another headphone with good emphasis in the sub bass?

  • @jarvinco9993
    @jarvinco9993 3 года назад

    Great review. :) I was hoping for a comparison between this and the final audio d8000/d8000pro. Are the newly revised lcd-x closer to those?

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews 3 года назад +3

      The D8K Pro is next level for technical performance. Not comparable.

    • @jarvinco9993
      @jarvinco9993 3 года назад

      @@ResolveReviews thanks!:)

  • @Eldood1000
    @Eldood1000 3 года назад +1

    ive had these headphones for the past 2 weeks. ive noticed that they stage above the ear canal, sometimes imo even a bit higher. has anyone else experienced this?

  • @marksouthon5635
    @marksouthon5635 Год назад

    May I ask what eq setting you would use on chord mojo 2 four parametric on audeze lcd-x 2021 ? 👍🏻

  • @Jamie-666
    @Jamie-666 3 года назад

    Great. Have the LCD-X 2020's. Resale value hopefully won't plummet, but good pts in the video.

    • @st3vemcqeef495
      @st3vemcqeef495 3 года назад +1

      Ive been trying to sell my 2020 model for 6 months. I decided to just keep them

    • @Jamie-666
      @Jamie-666 3 года назад

      @@st3vemcqeef495 Eeeek!

    • @one-rv2bx
      @one-rv2bx Месяц назад

      ​@@Jamie-666He wasn't trying to sell them, he was trying to get more money than they're worth

  • @thomasmleahy6218
    @thomasmleahy6218 2 года назад

    Which pads are on your LCD x, I believe they offer at least 2, one being not leather. How would you compare the bass to the LCD 3 model?

  • @sergejfahrlich2934
    @sergejfahrlich2934 2 года назад +1

    Why no one is reviewing the new LCD2-Classic Editions (Closed and open back) :(

  • @Another_Audiophile
    @Another_Audiophile Год назад

    I've just used the EQ from Resolve on my new LCD-XC. With bad recordings like Florence & The Machine - Rabbit heart, the XC is unlistenable without EQ. With EQ is a delight but for great recordings I prefer it without EQ.

  • @DaSixSixOne
    @DaSixSixOne 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great review. I traded up from an Ananda to an LCD-X that should arrive in a few days. My amp is a Schiit Ragnarock 2 with more than 24W of power from the balanced headphone out. Question… even though the LCD-X doesn’t require a lot of power, should I expect to hear any benefits from driving them with so much power? Maybe better transients or other improvements in the sound? The Ragnarock has a 128 step relay switched volume knob so I should still be able to make finite volume adjustments and have good channel matching at low volume settings. Please share your thoughts. Thanks!

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews 3 года назад

      No, these don't 'scale' the way something like an HD650 does. A good 'no nonsense' source is all you need - and those are available for cheap. Actually, I probably wouldn't use the balanced out, that's WAY too much power.

    • @DaSixSixOne
      @DaSixSixOne 3 года назад

      @@ResolveReviews Thanks for your reply and good to know. There is an article on the Audeze website about sensitivity, impedance and power that says raw power can’t be beat, but I guess my Ragnarock may be overkill for the LCD-X. Nonetheless I already bought a balanced cable for it so my curiosity will force me to try it out. Again, great review and thanks for all you do for the community!

  • @thelastrhino2581
    @thelastrhino2581 3 года назад +9

    Such a good, complete review. But I still maintain that headphones above 600 grams are murder for most people. The problem is clear: once the pain sets in, after 1, 2 or 4 hours - you cannot forget it. And so the next time you go to put it on, the pleasure is gone, you expect PAIN. :) So much so that you even fear lighter headphones.

    • @DeanMccormick
      @DeanMccormick 3 года назад +3

      Hmmm, I think the LCD X's are so well 'weight distributed' that for me, there isn't a problem. I don't have a neck like Mike Tyson either!

  • @2k9flash
    @2k9flash 8 месяцев назад

    Can you hear the difference in improved sound quality using balanced cable vs unbalanced in LCD-XC?

  • @dixter1652
    @dixter1652 2 года назад

    just curious about this... I saw the other day a guy selling a set of LCD-x and with it a set of LCD-xc cups... so he could just put the cups from a LCD-xc onto the LCD-x headphone... does this actually work or are there real differences between the X and XC besides the closed cups ? and if this is a possibility where do you purchase just the XC cups...

  • @darrylweller6143
    @darrylweller6143 3 года назад +1

    Can you own both and they both
    Be different enough?

  • @electreelife
    @electreelife Год назад

    Which headphones in general are best for electronic synth heavy music?

  • @ChrisoneillART
    @ChrisoneillART 3 года назад +6

    I told myself I wasn't going to spend anymore money, and then this happens.

  • @ClearAlera
    @ClearAlera 2 года назад +1

    Does anyone know what EQ program/plugin he uses?

  • @mrmrgaming
    @mrmrgaming Год назад

    Trying to justify the need for the X. I have the LCD2f (2016) and wonder if the X (2021) is worth jumping on to?

  • @David_Lamaz
    @David_Lamaz Год назад

    Where you guys apply this EQ? Is it in their reveal app? How to EQ them one time forever?

  • @divinecurrent9053
    @divinecurrent9053 3 года назад +2

    I'm curious how these new LCD-X 2021 now compare to Hifiman's lineup, considering Hifiman's strong point has always been tonality and Audeze's is technical performance. HE6SE vs LCD-X?

    • @HercahyoAdiSaputro
      @HercahyoAdiSaputro 3 года назад +2

      Clearly LCD-X
      In my opinion, the better comparison would be the original HE-6, which is technically better than HE6-SE
      On another note, I did compare LCD-X 2021 vs Arya last week, still prefer Arya for the imaging. The rest of technicality were par.
      Tonality i prefer Arya out of the box, but I think LCD-X will win if EQ-ed

  • @fclp67
    @fclp67 3 года назад +3

    And now I don't know how the LCD-X compares to the Focal clear and hifiman Arya without EQ lol cause the tuning on the LCD-X still looks quite dark, it doesn't have a terrible frequency response anymore but it doesn't seem very neutral either. The LCD-XC just looks like a straight up amazingly well tuned headphone. Probably the best sounding closed back for the price by far. I wonder how it compares to the Focal Radiance. Comfort is still an issue for the XC though so I'd trade some technical performance for the comfort of a Focal.

    • @TheHEADPHONEShow
      @TheHEADPHONEShow  3 года назад +4

      Resolve here. In general, the Focals have better dynamics, and the Audeze's have better separation and control. But yeah I'd still EQ the Audeze's.

    • @fclp67
      @fclp67 3 года назад

      @@TheHEADPHONEShow oh hey got a reply pog thanks. Can I also ask how big is the difference in the technical performance between the X and the XC?

  • @piyush10793
    @piyush10793 3 года назад +9

    Great review Andrew. Just some questions -
    1. Which one would you recommend between Focal MG Clear and Audeze LCD-X?
    2. Do you still think Arya is a better than MG Clear and LCD-X for $1500 price range?

    • @NotCharAznable
      @NotCharAznable 3 года назад +2

      I mean if you’re already spending 1.2k on cans is 300 more really out of the budget? I enjoy my Arya more than the LCDX that I returned even if they are harder to drive.

    • @ryanblack1251
      @ryanblack1251 3 года назад +5

      #1 is really hard for anyone to answer. You either like dynamic headphones or planars. If you already know the answer to that, then you already know the answer to your question. If you don't, you should really demo them or get some more "entry" level headphones of each (6xx vs Sundara) and see which you like better.

    • @sanhnguyen97
      @sanhnguyen97 3 года назад +3

      My arya has imbalanced channel issue , left channel has more bass and vibrate my ear than right channel . And the sound is little bit too bright for my taste .

    • @oscillatingdailyaudio
      @oscillatingdailyaudio 2 года назад

      @@sanhnguyen97 my Arya had same issue and I tried 2 different ones.

    • @janmortensen6967
      @janmortensen6967 2 года назад

      @@oscillatingdailyaudio I read somewhere that this problem is because of a loose screw somewhere ...

  • @jiyahbj
    @jiyahbj 3 года назад

    Good morning Andrew I hope all is well but in your honest opinion if you already had a good pair of open backs and wanted some good closed backs for home use and money wasn’t an issue witch would you choose the focal celestee or lcd xc carbon?

    • @theodorezurla496
      @theodorezurla496 2 года назад

      If you’re outside I would get the focal Celestee inside the lcd XC

  • @leonardcheri2118
    @leonardcheri2118 8 месяцев назад

    New person to this fied! I tried the xc vs LCD-2 and honestly the small sound stage in XC is such a turn off for me. Yes more precise and detailed experience with closed but it feels glued to my ears while the open lcd-2 classic were better for me. I am dropping taking my new headphones out for a walk and consiering getting the open now for home use only :/ MY ears are not trained at all so not sure why everyone is saying the XC are really good! am I wrong about these?

  • @peergynt6515
    @peergynt6515 2 года назад

    I am considering the closed back LCD-2, since this is out of my price range. Are there similar changes done to the LCD2?

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 года назад

      Nope and what do you mean anyway? LCD-X creator package is just $200 more than LCD-2. My honest recommendation is to go with LCD-2C if you can't get LCD-X...

  • @briantomasinomedia5077
    @briantomasinomedia5077 3 года назад +2

    Ordered mine in March, thought it was the new one. But got the 2020 version instead, pretty bummed on that. The new version also includes a nice case with the creators version too which i missed out on.

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews 3 года назад

      From where? Audeze has apparently been on the new revision for a bit.

    • @briantomasinomedia5077
      @briantomasinomedia5077 3 года назад

      @@ResolveReviews Off of Amazon. I just rechecked my order and now they updated the listing to the (old version) and made an entirely new one for the current version

    • @ResolveReviews
      @ResolveReviews 3 года назад

      @@briantomasinomedia5077 ahh sorry to hear. Well, just use the old EQ profile

    • @briantomasinomedia5077
      @briantomasinomedia5077 3 года назад

      @@ResolveReviews thanks man, keep up the great videos! I love your content!

    • @levilambert9391
      @levilambert9391 3 года назад +3

      I received a 2020 LCD-XC from a UK dealer when I ordered mine a few weeks ago. Audeze offered to upgrade them to the 2021 version free of charge, I just needed to pay shipping one-way. They're on their way back to me now having been with Audeze just under a week. Really can't fault their customer service.

  • @andreisilviudospinescu283
    @andreisilviudospinescu283 3 года назад

    Nice review! You talk so much about EQ headphones. Maybe it will help if you would put out a video pn how you can do the EQ and listen to Tidal. I use tidal and I don't know how I can eq my hadphones and continue using them with Tidal or even youtube. Thank you!

  • @vancybergoth
    @vancybergoth 3 года назад +2

    I bought my LCD-XC at the end of November 2020 and it weighs 766 grams, I have no problem with the weight. I really like this headphones and the Carbon looks so sexy. 🔥

    • @clichehabitat8306
      @clichehabitat8306 3 года назад +1

      What's the longest session that you would listen to music with the XC? Because I feel like over time it would be quite fatiguing over a period of time in one session.

    • @vancybergoth
      @vancybergoth 3 года назад +1

      @@clichehabitat8306 Usually my sessions are two to three hours long. But it has nothing to do with the weight of the LCD-XC, had the Hifiman HE1000SE for two years and I have never listened to it for longer.

  • @Jimmy-Chin
    @Jimmy-Chin 3 года назад

    How's the soundstage on these?

  • @dominicisidore
    @dominicisidore Год назад

    are both of these the 2021 model?? or is only the xc 2021?

  • @jeffreymakuch2493
    @jeffreymakuch2493 3 года назад

    Any difference between the Carbon and Maple LCD-XC?
    Also, revisions are ok as long as they're easily identifiable to the customer. Perhaps an exception for the tiniest changes that don't make any difference, but otherwise, yes, Audeze should have had model numbers ages ago. Is it that hard to slap just a "1, 2, 3.." or whatever after the name? Posting serial numbers is something, but still insufficient.

    • @markrussellsmith
      @markrussellsmith 3 года назад

      The maple is no longer available, so the new revision doesn't apply to them.

  • @FuturePerfectContinuous
    @FuturePerfectContinuous 3 года назад

    i like the look from the closed one a lot, but i am not a closedback guy....hmmm.....

  • @litetemeraria
    @litetemeraria 3 года назад

    I purchased an XC Creator package with s/n above 8523700 but it has no case. From the receipt: "LCD-XC - Carbon / Creators Package - No Case / Leather” 😳

  • @towsifshahriarshovo
    @towsifshahriarshovo 3 года назад +2

    Please announce an another giveaway of lcd xc🙄😉.

  • @xgum
    @xgum 2 года назад +2

    xc greatest sub $2k, even sub $4k headphones ever made

  • @Emrah2908
    @Emrah2908 3 года назад

    Hello Andrew. I have a 2019 LCD-XC and I use it with a moderate quality amp/dac which has its own bass and treble boost.
    So if you were in my place would you sell it and buy the new LCD-XC or not sell it and instead buy an amp/dac like iFi idsd diablo or equivalent? I’m asking cuz I don’t have the money to do both.

    • @levilambert9391
      @levilambert9391 3 года назад

      I'd contact Audeze and ask how much it would cost to upgrade your 2019 XC. I purchased mine a few weeks ago but recieved a 2020 version from the UK dealer. Audeze offered to upgrade mine free of charge and even paid for return shipping. Not sure if they'd upgrade an older unit for free but it wouldn't hurt to enquire. If they won't, I'd maybe suggest ordering a set of the new pads. I suspect most of the FR improvements are likely to be attributed to the new pads.

    • @Emrah2908
      @Emrah2908 3 года назад

      @@levilambert9391 Yea this may be a way thanks

  • @lukel7660
    @lukel7660 3 года назад

    I'm checking some used LCD X's on ebay. How can I tell if I'm buying the revised version?

    • @ginzero
      @ginzero 3 года назад +1

      You should email "Worlds Best Headphones" in California, they may have B stock that are less expensive then Ebay. I just picked up a B-Stock '21 XC from them. Factory sealed an well below Ebay prices..

  • @colt45lmer
    @colt45lmer 5 месяцев назад

    my god iu just got the xc and they are a huge upgrade over my either cx. Also either cx cable is the biggest pos ever i have had to repair it countless times over the last few years. also the headband adjuster on them is garbage to . only time will tell but these are amazing so far. Need to get the xlr cable tough accidently got the 1/4 in version.

  • @tibormichalcik9381
    @tibormichalcik9381 3 года назад +2

    I call for bitperfect! No more EQ! :D

  • @AliArghavan
    @AliArghavan 3 года назад +1

    With the pads now being shallower, do your ears touch the magnet fazors now? I really don't like when that happens.

    • @MerveilIes
      @MerveilIes 3 года назад

      My ears were touching. Had to swap to Dekoni Elite Hybrids.

    • @AliArghavan
      @AliArghavan 3 года назад

      @@MerveilIes That's not good. I believe most of the sound improvement comes from the new pads. Dekoni's will change the sound.

  • @grimming1767
    @grimming1767 Год назад

    I have a TEAC UD-505-X I want to buy AudezeLCDX , to cope UD-505-X with LCD-X .