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Did The English Dub Ruin Godzilla -1.0? Godzilla Minus One Minus Japanese Review - ゴジラ マイナス ワン
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Godzilla Minus One is the newest Godzilla film released by Toho Studios in Japan and went on to become a cultural icon! The film swept the Japanese industry and even won an Academy Award! Now that it has a highly produced English dub over at Netflix, it's time to rewatch this film and evaluate if the English dub helps or hurts the original movie.
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Chapters
Intro 0:00
Minus Japanese 0:44
Refreshing 1:14
Negatives 1:39 (08)
Positives 4:59
Character Performances 6:58 (00)
Overall Thoughts 9:28 (16)
Rating 11:01
Conclusion 11:40 to END
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The english dub was fine. I still prefer the Japanese Dub, but the English Dub didn't ruin the experience.
i agree
It's not a Japanese dub if that was the original language made for the film. I think you meant English sub
@@Kaiju-bm4ts No he meant english dub....english sub means english subtitles
@@megamegaO He said Japanese dub, I was reffering to that. There is no Japanese dub if the original language intended for the film was Japanese.
The "Japanese dub" he's reffering to is just the English sub
I completely agree
The dub was great. People just have nothing better to do with their lives than complain
Dman isnt complaining though, its just simple criticism
@@train_go_boom2065 I wasn't talking about him
My dude.... wtf do you think criticism is?
@@mecha_nemesis_6897 thanks for proving my points
@@mecha_nemesis_6897 *point
I always take it as I love dubs. I love subs. This goes for Godzilla, anime, other Japanese films and shows, French films and show, whatever.
Like you said, translation is always imperfect. Even when going to closely related languages like Italian and Spanish, some things are imperfect. Going from vastly different languages like Japanese and English, the differences are even greater. Heck, a modern English speaker reading Shakespeare can benefit from some help, and _they are the same language._
All that is to say, dubs give me a window into what is being said, subs give me another window. Using both, I can get a better (but still imperfect) understanding of a work.
This is exactly how I feel. That's why I always watch the films in both languages to get a better understanding of them.
I’ve been watching the English dubbed for Godzilla since I first started watching it, honestly minus one’s dub is just fine, honestly minus one is the only Godzilla movie I prefer to watch in sub because it’s more authentic.
I've heard many people say that and I totally get it
@@DMan1954 all the other Godzilla movies, I love the dub better. Maybe because I’ve been watching it all my life and honestly I prefer it.
@@jacobsmith1078 as Midori would say from 1992 Godzilla vs Mothra ….”niiiice”
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YES!!! It's my jam
@@DMan1954 your jam is our jam 😂
Great video! I haven't watched the dub yet and although I usually like the subs better from what I saw it sounds good. I agree, it's never going to be perfect and you'll lose some elegance but as long as the staff puts effort into it the results should be good
I always skip the english versions, preferring to listening to the Japanese. I liked how described it as elegance.
Fair enough. It's always a fun way to experience the movie a little different for me.
I saw the film in theaters where it was subtitles only, and then watched in english Dubbed when it released on Netflix. Comparing to all the other Japanese Godzilla Films that were dubbed, I think this Film had the best dubbing out of most, if not all of them. I think for this movie, the English voice actors did their best to be spot on with the original actors voice tones and emotional reactions. Yes there were some areas where they could have been better. And the English Dialogue were kept very close to what the original actors said (according to the original Japanese Subtitles in theaters). With only a few minor changes to what was actually said. Some of the dialogue changes I didn't mind. And some were said best in the original Japanese Dialogue. I'm very glad they kept the little girl Akiko's cries the same. From what I heard in both versions, they didn't try to dub her it over.
So again. I think this is probably the best dubbing for any Japanese Godzilla film I've seen. And there have been some bad ones I have to admit. Especially ones with actors who were speaking English in the original Japanese dialogue. Their voices were dubbed over too with even worse voice actors. I was left like, "Why did they bother dubbing over the original actor's voice? He's already speaking english." And there are ones that when they dubbed the movie in English, the sound quality is very suppressed. Godzilla Vs Biollante was 1.0 Dolby Digital. It was very quiet. You switched that format in the blu ray menu to the original Japanese Format without changing your volume, and it is loud as hell.
Overall I'm happy the way this movie turned out. Both Japanese and English Dubbed. I hope they provide both versions in the DVD/Blu Ray Release. And hopefully that's soon.
There's no winning with fans of any Japanese media when it comes to dubs. I can't count how many times i clicked on a RUclips video of an anime scene that's clearly titled (DUB) and still found people in the comments complaining about it. Even the most praised dubs have people complaining about them. This is nothing new.
Completely agree
I'm Chinese-American and I used subs to learn both Chinese and English better as a young kid, so I'm forever subs over dubs.
I am someone who has always preferred watching a dub rather than reading subtitles.
I am very glad they did a English dub of this movie.
And yes I did see Godzilla - 1 - color in theaters.
Can't wait for the next one it is so Good 🎥💯
Same here!
Before watching your review, personally felt that it was serviceable but the performance could have been better and I noticed that they didn’t even try to sync up the words with the mouth (which i understand is difficult but a movie of such acclaim deserves the effort no?) it had its moments but ultimately Japanese is the best experience for the movie.
Fair enough. I'm glad they didn't rewrite the script like crazy to try and fit the lip movements. The voice sync was all good and that's what mattes.
Thank you for an excellent and balanced analysis. Frankly, I was hesitant when I saw the title, but as usual, great job. One thought is that if it draws new viewers to the movie, it's a win.
As for the dubbing of Shin Godzilla, it is possible that dubbing adds to the detached nature of the government. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it. 😂
No problem! Thank you for the nice words. I like to use the titles like this against the people who started them in the first place to offer a counter statement.
DMan long time no see!This film is the thought of the Japanese people.
Try to see it through the thoughts of Americans. The feeling is the same... yes!It is a masterpiece!
Sub: Is your war finally over?
Versus
Dub: Can this war of yours that you have inside your head finally come to an end now?
Mistakes were made.
Why does Minus One look simultaneously beastly and handsome? Like an absolute monster but a good lil guy too? Reminds me of Stewie Griffin
When I re-watch Shin Godzilla I always do it twice: First the sub-titled version, then the dubbed version. So different.
As always thank you so very much for the videos.
Thank you!
No, what ruins a movie is having to stare at the bottom of the screen reading and missing the entire movie. Might as well just download the script and read that. The English dub is really good. And as an English speaker who doesn’t understand Japanese, it’s the ONLY way to watch the film. Japanese speakers don’t have to read it, why should I? The entire point of dubs is so people that don’t speak the original language can enjoy the film the same way the original audience did (by understanding what’s being said).
This is why I feel English dubs have a place
i dont mean to make this sound disrespectful or come across rude in any way because your perspective is totally something i can understand to an extent but how can reading a line or two at the bottom of the screen that takes minimum 0.5 seconds and maybe max 2 seconds for you to read and grasp could make you completely miss the scene that you're watching? just a genuine question asking out of curiosity ofc if its dyslexia or something like that for that matter i get it
I know I missed stuff in the movie whilst reading the subs.
I'm a Japanese. When we watch English movies. we can choose dubed one one with subtitle. Dubed one is more correct because voice actor can speak fast. On the other hand, subtile has a limitation which is the numuber of letters, and of time. It means that subtitle is less correct than dub. But instead we can enjoy original voices. So recently I make it a rule to watch in both ways. It's my recommendation in case of G -1.0. Besides ,as you know, G -1.0 has -color version (maybe soon). You can enjoy G -1.0 in four ways totally. How happy you are!!
I watched it with the English dub the first time I watched it and I still enjoyed it.
I'm sorry, did you say there is a dub for Shin Godzilla? Why haven't heard of this before? The only dubs Ik for Godzilla movies are the Showa and Heisei Era films, the anime trilogy and Minus One.
The english dub for this is pretty good. I did have a couple nitpicks about the Doc's voice being too deep, and the Captain's voice could have been more older and gruff sounding. But that's just me. Other than that I think the cast did a fantastic job.
As for Noriko's ending line... it's basically the same meaning. So it didn't bother me. Dubbing in live action is rather tricky... gotta match the actor's lip movements and body language and make it all sound natural. A little change in the dialogue is okay so long as it has the same meaning as the original language intended, and matches the character's lip movements. Most importantly... gotta have good voice actors.
honestly this is the only movie that is top first i cant lie and i dont this film truly changed everything and everything was just my moments to think and actually changed my love for this film
nice!
I have a friend and co-worker who refuses to watch any foreign film in its native language with English subtitles. He watched the English dub of "Godzilla: Minus One" and didn't at all like it. Go figure. For the most part, I liked the English dub of "G:M1" and lemme tell ya, it's certainly above the par you find in the Heisei, Millennium films or the Netflix "Godzilla" Monster Planet" anime trilogy, "Godzilla: Singular Point" and Shin Goji. There was little to no "lip flap" and the majority of voice actors were suitable matches for their characters. It wasn't perfect, but at no time watching it, was I jarred out of the movie because of false notes. Here's something for the naysayers to think carefully about... Given their limited financial resources, Toho don't have the money to hire "A" or even "B" list North American talent to do voice overs they way Miramax did with their perfect dub of "Princess Mononoke" and later, what Disney accomplished with the rest of Hayao Miyazkaki's films when they obtained the rights to them. The only way you're gonna get the same levels of vocal performance as is in the Japanese original, is to hire performers of that calibre. That said, this dub version (with the notes you made, Derek) is just fine in my book.
Fair enough! I do agree that some of these films could benefit from a stronger dub cast who is on a higher level. Although I would worry it would become jarring if people recognized the voice actors, the way it was for me with Mike from Skull Island fighting Godzilla here.
I thought the dub was one of the better ones I’ve seen. My major gripe with the dub other than the final line change is that the dialogue sounded a bit quiet too me
Especially in the 3rd act, i found that Naoki Sato’s fantastic Score drowns out a bit of the dialogue when everything gets all intense
I watched it first in the English dub, then original Japanese with subtitles, then switching to English and Japanese audio, I reckon the English dub is fine, the voice acting is really topnotch.
English subtitles naturally lack details that could not be presented due to the limited space and time available, but that is normal for subtitles. As with any subtitled movie, the original is better, but the Godzilla subtitles were adequate in conveying the story to the point that people were in tears. I watched the movie in Japanese as it is my mother tongue and later saw the dubbed version. It looked fine but as others wrote, folks like to complain.
I still think they ruined it with the final line from Noriko. It comes off as her treating Shikishima's struggles as an annoyance more than her being sympathetic and supportive of him
Nothing destroys an acting performance like dubbing.
For me, I have a firm belief in experiencing the movie in its original form. Especially one like this, that had exceptional acting. Dubs, for the most part, just don't capture the original heart and soul each actor/actress put into a movie.
The most common issue of dubs and voice acting in general, is that the actors doing so have a hard time letting go of their ego, which causes their lines to sound forced or just plain terribly executed (Lion King 2019 is a good example).
Even if you have subtitles in English on an English film, the subtitles distract me away from getting to know the actors and a lot of what’s going on with the movie because you have to read
All 3 current variations of G -1.0 were excellent.
Minus Color was best in my opinion .... if I had to pick.
"Godzilla Minus One Minus Japanese" nice, i like that. Found it funny
I prefer the english. I would rather understand what is said then sit and read subtitles. Thats is where a movie takes me so out of it. Does not matter how good a movie is or not. No Subs is better.
The English dub was the first time I saw the film, as I missed it in theaters and wanted to see it definitely, and I got to say, the dub was really good. The Japanese original is better obviously, but it did not ruin the film for me.
While I am annoyed that the English dub isn't as accurate as the German dub for example, the only thing I really hated was the voice they chose for professor Noda. I despised it with every part of my body...
But now that I've watched the original dub, the German and the English dub, I can safely say that the German dub is the best. Overall I think Germany is putting more effort into accurate translation rather than trying to "fix" sentences. Hence movies like Suzume or any Godzilla movie are exclusively watched in German by me. It just sounds good.
Fair enough
The German Dub Was 👌🔥
Gamera Rebirth review when????
2025
Actuall, i had no issues with watching and reading the lines in this movie. Very easy to follow. Shin was not 😂
I’ve watched clips, some of the voices don’t fit (especially Noda) but I think it’s… decent.
They grow on you
We can over analyze dub vs sub, end of the day, people just choose what they're comfortable with. Accuracy/quality/whatever be damned. It's how localization flourished over actual translations all this time.
I like minus one. I had no real problem with the english dub except for the last line. I will respectfully disagree with you on that. I feel the last line's poignancy was diminished by having Noriko seemingly complain in her request that he get over his PTSD (without saying it directly). Where, to me, the original dub is filled with caring and asking him if the war inside him is over. Showing her intuitive side as it were.
My only complaint was when they said ok never mind and translated it to let’s let the ship take care of it
That is a very good example of it losing the original point
Je suis francais et j ai vu le doublage dans ma langue..et il est plutot reussi..vu un peu le doublage anglais et c est pas mal..on a eu de la chance dans les doublages pour Godzilla minus one..
WOW. I thought I wasn't going to like the dub. Those clips prove I was right.
I mean... I did pick clips to show examples of things I didn't like. So the clips don't represent it well
I’m gonna check it out tonight!
I honestly don’t see why it would. I think it was great for the movie to have an English dub
YES!
Never watched a foreign movie in English dub. The choice of words for the movie threw me off in certain contexts
It's a balancing act, and there is no such thing as 100% accurate translation. As for the Japanese inflection in certain words, I can take them or leave them. At best, you don't really notice it; at worst, it's like a record scratch; you can't help but notice it. I remember when the AKIRA Blu-ray was released, and the new dub referred to Kaneda as Canada, which was jarring. The Spanish dub was better, but the screaming parts are where it falters hard. One of the best English dubs I've ever heard was in Jin-Roh, as that movie was theatrical and emotional, and I give them credit for stepping up to the occasion.
I find most well produced anime dubs to be of equal quality to the original.
I can only recommend that anyone who can't watch sub watch the dub version
I mean... It was ok but the heartbreaking scream of koichii isn't very heartbreaking anymore, honestly sounds like someone try harding to go super Saiyan lmao. Not too bad i guess but I'd stick with the japanese version
I can’t handle dubs because of the vocal disconnect from the mouth movements, yeahhh this isn’t exactly a great dub.
It's all in the eyes not the lips
@@DMan1954 for me it’s not.
A seminal film!
The Spanish dub is also pretty good too
I was so surprised I was about to fall asleep in a Godzilla movie Godzilla x kong all the way or pre 2004 toho all the way
Pft
I have not seen it yet. But the scenes you showed here are definitely inferior to the original. I am leaning towards that the internet is right on this one.
I watched the English dub. It didn't ruin it but it did do a bad job
I don't think it did a bad job. I think it's pretty good for dubs
The English dub was less emotional, at least that's how I felt.
I have watched it twice, first dubbed and then in Japanese. Preferred the Japanese language much more. The dubbed version, at least to me, lacked emotion. It sounded too Hollywood. When the dubbed movie ended, my thought was 'You know, that was quite good!' When the Japanese version ended, it felt like an emotional gut punch and then came the waterworks, in spite of the fact that I already knew what was coming.
Why couldn't the original actors to their lines in English for the dub? If they didn't know English, they could have done it phonetically
That’s a whole lot of work for a bunch of people who 100% would need to do it phonetically
@@DMan1954 Isn't that the point of making a good movie even if it takes a lot of extra work?
I watched both twice and found the dub good
Nice!
Since the Japanese language, especially Kanji, is ideographic, the meaning can be captured with a single glance. On the other hand, English is phonetic, so it takes time to read it, and I think the subtitled version is at a slight disadvantage. It would be meaningless if you miss the important images, so I hope you will enjoy the dubbed version as well.
Both have so much value. I hope people come to appreciate both
Lol the dub was like any other. Cartoony anime voice acting that completely eliminates the actual perfomances from the actors. How anyone can warp that criticism into "people just complaining for the sake of complaining" is embarrassing. Great video
Thanks!
I actually think the cast did a pretty good job being natural. Especially because some of the original performances were already animated. It worked very well for me
The best Godzilla movie since 1954, and Godzilla KotM is the only best film in the Monsterverse as of yet. Learn from Minus One hollywoke, that's how you make a movie, that's how you sell.
Honestly this movie didn’t need an English Dub. It works fine without it.
This is what's called a Non-troversy. A controversy that doesn't exist. If you prefer the original with English subs, the option is available to you. If you prefer an English dubbed version, the option is available to you. Why is this even a topic?
The English dub is so much better than I expected. Especially after hearing people cry about it.
I felt the same thing
The dub was perfectly fine.
The type of people that swear by subs and make it their whole personality, whilst maintaining a smug arrogance about it are probably one of the most annoying walks of life you’ll come across.
Just as annoying as the types that never shut up about how Die Hard is a Christmas movie, or how Idiocracy is actually a documentary, or spend the entire time trying to explain Fight Club to you while you’re just trying to watch the damn movie
The english dub did not ruin the amazingness of -1, there was actual passion from the english voice actors, while my brother doesn't agree with because he's are "certified" weebs. Though the japanese voice actors were pretty good, both had passion in the voice.
It wasn’t any better or worse than any other dub really. Some of the tension is lost in the dub for sure but it’s still the same movie overall.
From the moment I saw Godzilla minus one in theaters, I swore to myself I’d never listen to the English dub because every English dub of Godzilla I’ve seen just lacked the emotion given by the Japanese voice actors, the movie is perfect as is and I know English dub wouldn’t make it better
That’s alright. It’s not for everyone
In English dub does not ruin anything some people need to stop being elitist and just let others enjoy things
The dub was passable, in my opinion.
English dubs, regardless of how good they are always ruin a good foreign film. There's no way the actor's real acting can come through and words are often changed to come closer to matching the mouth movements. If you're too lazy to read subtitles then stick to American and/or British movies.
It's not about laziness. Some people need an option like this.
Well a lot of us older folks are visually impaired so do appreciate the option. And some people just don’t like having to read as it takes away from the visual since busy reading.
Having both options are good… it brings more people to experience the movie. Imagine if that had been an option in movie theaters. Some Dubbed showings held at certain times. It definitely would have increased box office numbers.
No not at all
Have only seen it in Japanese. No comment
Give it a shot and see what you think
Will do 07 thanks Dman!
I prefered the English version...!
I actually liked the English dub more 😊
WOAH! That's a hot take! I'm glad you liked it.
Honestly it’s probably one of the best dubs Godzilla has gotten. But still the Japanese performance was definitely superior
Agreed!
i say no it did not ruin the movie
The english dub was fine. Idk what people are talking about.
No.
I personally think the English dub is fine, I just don’t like the added English subtitles. You know, because it’s less impactful than the original english subs.
They still have the original English subtitles available under a different option
@@DMan1954 yeah I know, I mean when I see people react to the movie they watch it with the added English subs (which bothers me 😅).
i learned a long time ago like early 90s to roll with the subtitles.
The original language is funny & my 16 year old ONLY watches Anime
this way... English Dub is always & always has been overly cringe.
And the 1954-2004 Godzilla movies had some funny dubs
To each their own. There are a few anime dubs I like more than the og performances
TOO,TOO LATE TO RUIN THIS SMASH HIT.
MILLIONS BENEFITTED FROM THE DUBBING.
GOOD WORK JAPAN.
YOU'VE SECURED " THE BAG"
i watched the movie with my fam a few weeks back and heavily suggested we use the original version with subtitles but ofc their peanut brains needed the dubbed version. it doesn’t kill the movie but it’s painful at some points. saddest part was they just sat on their phones the whole movie 😭🙏
i dislike dubs because the voice actors always come off sounding cartoonish and like they don't take anything seriously. I'm not talking about the cheesy movies, I'm talking about the serious ones like Minus One. The emotion is NEVER THERE in dubbed films.
It’s a different art form than screen-acting
All dubs ruin movies even if they're well acted. It's crazy to me that people are so lazy about having to read (god forbid) that they choose instead to not even hear the original actors' performances and experience the lines as they were originally delivered. It turns the whole acting aspect of movies into a cheap imitation of the real thing. I don't mind people having that option, but it really is a terrible way to experience foreign films.
Man has never taken into account people with different accessibility needs than him. Some people need it.
Also, I’d like to add that the original actors for Minus One dub other films including GXK. Japanese people like dubs too
@@DMan1954 I mean I already said that I don't mind people having that option, but I think that as long as you can read you should always go with the subtitles so you can actually hear the performance of the person who is on the screen.
It kinda ruined it. The original version with subtitles is an easy watch. Why wreck it with a schlub dub?...
Your 54 video is clickbait and you are over analyzed
You are whiny
Nah, the Dub was great. Only elitist get upset about dumb shit like that.
60 years and I've never watched any movie with the foreign horrible language. I can't stand their ugly language. If it's in English then i will watch it. I don't care about anime so the actors mean nothing to me
i watched Godzilla -1.0 and it was bad the human characters were boring asf but action and destruction,CGI was great overall but the story and humans are meh to boring.
ipad kids
@@DMan1954 wdym by ''ipad kids''
"Did the English Dub Ruin Godzilla -1.0?" No, i agree it didn't ruin the movie.
Not what I said
😢😢😢😭😭 sorry but I thought we had the same point 😔
The dub was better than the sub ngl