How to TUNE your headphones (the easy way!)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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    ⇊ Come play around with my giant tools ⇊
    crinacle.com/graphs/iems/grap... (for IEMs)
    crinacle.com/graphs/headphone... (for headphones)
    ⇊ Recommended EQ software ⇊
    Windows: EqualizerAPO (sourceforge.net/projects/equa...) + PEACE GUI (sourceforge.net/projects/peac...)
    Android: Poweramp Equalizer (play.google.com/store/apps/de...) or Wavelet (play.google.com/store/apps/de...)
    macOS: eqMac (eqmac.app/)
    iOS: hahahaHAHAHAHAHA
    ⇊ Credits to those who made the tool what it is today ⇊
    Marshall Lochbaum: github.com/mlochbaum (OG creator)
    ‪@SuperReview‬: squig.link (Cosmetic overhauls/improvements)
    Jaakko Pasanen: github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq (AutoEQ)
    Rohsa: gitlab.com/rohsa (AutoEQ implementation)
    Banbeucmas: banbeu.com/graph/tool/ (Debugs)
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    00:00 Intro
    00:50 EQ
    01:48 AutoEQ
    02:35 EQing with graphs
    04:46 Preamp/gain
    05:21 EQing one headphone to another
    06:33 Tweaking profiles to taste
    09:49 Sound examples
    09:56 Low shelf filter (120Hz, 0.7Q)
    10:14 High shelf filter (8000Hz, 0.7Q)
    10:34 500Hz
    10:53 1000Hz
    11:15 3500Hz
    11:35 Q values
    11:51 EQing as listeners vs EQing in the studio
    13:36 Caveats
    CAMERA: Sony a7S III + FE 35mm f/1.8
    MICROPHONE: Motu M2 interface + Neumann TLM 102
    SPEAKERS: Neumann KH120 + KH750
    MONITOR: LG C1 48" OLED
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Комментарии • 817

  • @crin
    @crin  2 года назад +189

    Play with my tools
    crinacle.com/graphs/iems/graphtool (for IEMs)
    crinacle.com/graphs/headphones/graphtool (for headphones)

    • @SMEARGLEX75
      @SMEARGLEX75 2 года назад +2

      Now I'm not doing it. 😠
      jkjkjk

    • @extremeaircraftguy1125
      @extremeaircraftguy1125 2 года назад +12

      "Play with my tools"
      Yes daddyyyy >_

    • @dvextremer10
      @dvextremer10 2 года назад +1

      what song you use? Mr. crin

    • @deki9827
      @deki9827 2 года назад +1

      I'd love to play with your _tool_ daddy crin~

    • @sameerkhatri588
      @sameerkhatri588 2 года назад

      any chance you could review the Oneplus Buds Pro?

  • @DraconianDeus
    @DraconianDeus 2 года назад +696

    Didn't know Wavelet was such a universally recognized tool for EQing on devices, and graph tool on your website is very useful as well, thanks!

    • @MFKitten
      @MFKitten 2 года назад +10

      I can't figure out how to get autoEQ going in wavelet, and it's annoying. Only gives me graphical EQ. Ugh.

    • @UD503J
      @UD503J 2 года назад +41

      @@MFKitten To add on to hailgod's advice, you also have to have audio running somewhere (for me it's at least starting a track in Spotify) otherwise Wavelet gives you the 'no new sessions have started yet' screen.

    • @alphariusomegon8507
      @alphariusomegon8507 2 года назад

      @@hailgod1 p

    • @Alex-pl6bt
      @Alex-pl6bt 2 года назад +24

      @@UD503J You can go into the setting and enable "Legacy mode" and then you can turn it on whenever

    • @fishstick1900
      @fishstick1900 2 года назад +6

      @@MFKitten Basically what AP May said plus one tip: If the app doesn't detect the audio playing, turn on legacy mode. The "proper" way to do it is to do the extra setup for the app you're using, but I've been using legacy mode for years without any problems.

  • @gigihanmandarin
    @gigihanmandarin 2 года назад +695

    My upmost respect on all the effort put into this tool! But I gotta say Crin, your website is pretty unusable on mobile browsers......

    • @Arado159
      @Arado159 2 года назад +64

      True. The tier lists specifically, sadly.
      It doesn't load more than the first few entries on my end (even when I view it in desktop mode)

    • @unliving_ball_of_gas
      @unliving_ball_of_gas 2 года назад +22

      @@Arado159 Damn that's worse than mine. At least on my phone it still loads but takes around 2 minutes before I could actually scroll.

    • @jamirvillarosa7924
      @jamirvillarosa7924 Год назад +14

      lol set in on desktop mode on your mobile browser.

    • @neroangelo8244
      @neroangelo8244 Год назад +24

      @@jamirvillarosa7924 doesn't work very well either "lol".

    • @Draciel360
      @Draciel360 Год назад +3

      I'm all for ads that support crin, but it stays loading like three videos at once and using all my mobile data lol

  • @TeacupTSauceror
    @TeacupTSauceror 6 месяцев назад +54

    listening through laptop speakers: ah yes hmmm the nuances of the profiles are really coming through

    • @panzerfan
      @panzerfan Месяц назад

      Where's your HD800S?

  • @thecompleation8891
    @thecompleation8891 2 года назад +125

    When I learned how to master when I got a audio engineering education I learned that the basis to master a track is to never ever add gain to any frequency unless you absolutely have to. You find the issues and remove them. Most masters are 90% dips (the good ones, that is).

    • @FMI_TheMixEngineEar
      @FMI_TheMixEngineEar 2 года назад +1

      totally agreed

    • @robinrai4973
      @robinrai4973 2 года назад +9

      I really don't know anything about audio, but isn't that what the pre amp section does? So reducing the pre amp by whatever your max boosted frequency is makes it so that frequency boost is actually +0dB and everything else are dips?

    • @the_rustydoornob1164
      @the_rustydoornob1164 Год назад

      Hey since ur more experienced than I could u do me a favor and listen to the music I’ve made in the past year? I would love a pros opinion on my mix, I use dt770’s for the final mixing of my songs and I use garage band to make them, ignore the music rule breaks like saying fuck staying in one key

    • @gurratell7326
      @gurratell7326 Год назад +4

      @@robinrai4973 That's exactly why you use the pre amp yes.

    • @oliverquach9614
      @oliverquach9614 Год назад +7

      But mastering engineers have access to limiters and other ways to gain match. End consumer usually don’t.

  • @matejharbinger9938
    @matejharbinger9938 2 года назад +122

    "If you are on iphone... Go fuck yourself" the way he said it got me lolling. Excellent.

    • @aviesto2417
      @aviesto2417 21 день назад

      You're using IPhone 14? No way... wait fr? I have something for you... ❤
      Go fuck yourself

  • @iwanaizakku
    @iwanaizakku Год назад +28

    With the help of this video, I've been tuning my iem with your frequency target as the base, and now I have my own personal target, which I've successfully match with my other iems/headphones.
    Really huge thanks to you, and also those who are involved to make the frequency measurements and AutoEQ possible for everyone else.

  • @pavlebn
    @pavlebn 2 года назад +473

    11:52 Small correction - Mastering engineers don't usually get all the instrument tracks (multitrack). They get a single stereo track from the mixing engineer. It's a common mistake to think mix and master is the same thing.
    (note - i know stem mastering is a thing, i'm talking about the traditional mastering process)

    • @nathanksimpson
      @nathanksimpson 2 года назад

      I was about to make this comment too.

    • @FMI_TheMixEngineEar
      @FMI_TheMixEngineEar 2 года назад

      totally agreed. stem mastering or 2 track master

    • @artysanmobile
      @artysanmobile 2 года назад +11

      And when we do get stems, they are frequently improperly assigned and of limited help. I send a detailed document to any artist who wishes to master with me. It’s not overly technical, but it is a bit complex. I’ve lost a project over this, so stubborn was the engineer in the face of change.

    • @jirehla-ab1671
      @jirehla-ab1671 Год назад

      @pavlebn, does EQing has a diminishing returns in relation to the drivers that vibrate it's using regardless od audio device?

    • @citizenatlrge
      @citizenatlrge 10 месяцев назад

      @@jirehla-ab1671 yes. badly made products sound like shit to start with. 13:34 is exactly what @crin is talking about. you can't fix the bass curve with iems or any other product that can't do those frequencies. "diminishing returns in relation to the drivers that vibrate" exactly that.. some products don't vibrate correctly for various reasons. others, are worth buying if they are capable of making the sounds you want.

  • @harrowclint7606
    @harrowclint7606 Год назад +15

    Dude, you have no idea how helpful your video is for me as a beginner. This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. You're awesome, keep up the good work!

  • @aznwierdone
    @aznwierdone 2 года назад +46

    as someone who hasnt tinkered much with EQ, i really appreciate the side by side comparisons. i kind of which it was a longer loop, just to have more time to think about the nuances, but hey thats why youre walking us through how to do it ourselves

  • @BuckieJr
    @BuckieJr Год назад +8

    Thank You so much for this video. Literally breathed new life into my headphones and made me enjoy some older pairs much more. Using your tool and spending a couple hours playing around i've managed to get a much more 'me' sound that I never would have been able to figure out without this.

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer 2 года назад +16

    The reason EQ gets a bad rep, aside from the psychological aspect of potentially having gotten the wrong headphones and needing to admit error and correct them, is the fact that older digital EQ technology really wasn't all that great. But nowadays, it's pretty damn exceptional. Of course, this still assumes that the drivers in your headphones or earphones are competent enough to take it. Some aren't, most will, and some of the ones that will can handle it really well without any noticeable signs that they've been EQ-ed. While it's still worthwhile to hunt down your sets such that EQ isn't necessary, it's really nice that you can now use parametric EQ with a variety of different models for each point to completely reshape your sonic experience.

  • @echowoods4869
    @echowoods4869 Год назад +2

    I just wanted to thank you for your insight and recommendations. Your blog really helped me put into context the value of certain headphones on the market, mostly because most other headphone "reviewing" websites spread false information/don't have an objective evaluation system in place. It helped me a lot.

  • @villunboxandreviews
    @villunboxandreviews 2 года назад +5

    Dang. It really improved the quality and clarity. Thanks man! And thanks to the people behind this project. 🤟

  • @WyattPost406
    @WyattPost406 2 года назад +28

    Another important caveat would be to watch out for ear canal resonance. This will be different on every ear and measuring rig. IME, this makes anything past 5K kind of a crapshoot. A sine wave generator and careful listening can assist when manually eq-ing in this range

  • @jssytvrs
    @jssytvrs Год назад +1

    Crinacle I have not been here since finding my first pair of headphones but that intro got me so good you're great at content creation

  • @iliketohideincloset
    @iliketohideincloset 2 года назад +4

    Yo Crin. Thanks a lot for your work! You just made my day mate.

  • @imembridibuddha
    @imembridibuddha 2 года назад +107

    I'd like to have measurements (and maybe even a review!) for the HD58x in the graph tool as well.

    • @Tirth-Patel
      @Tirth-Patel 2 года назад +2

      you have a funny name

    • @ether23-23
      @ether23-23 2 года назад +1

      lol funy name man XD

    • @rez3594
      @rez3594 2 года назад +6

      its warm, too warm. you dont need to know more.

    • @imembridibuddha
      @imembridibuddha 2 года назад

      @@rez3594 warmer than the HD6xx?

    • @hy7968
      @hy7968 2 года назад

      @@imembridibuddha It isn’t really. It just has a bit more sub bass. Still not for bass heads tho.

  • @wtf17727
    @wtf17727 Год назад +13

    Poweramp EQ has evolved a lot since this video.
    You can now pretty much EQ any app with 2 adb commands, also you can enable a mode that also detects apps that may not be detected otherwise.
    It has so much tuning methods.
    I found it better than Wavelet, as I can tweak more, especially in the low bass range.
    It is not bug free and sometimes it does not switch to the right headphones automatically, but if you don't need AutoEQ or your headphones are not in the Database of Wavelet and you want something with more control, Poweramp EQ is in my opinion better.
    Wavelet is easier, but I personally want more control.

  • @DeputyGamer
    @DeputyGamer 2 года назад +3

    I was looking at videos on your other channel then got sad when I had seen you had no activity in couple months. I got lucky and found your new channel through your Twitter. You might get more subscribers if you release a short video announcing the channel change. glad to see your still going at it.

  • @BrianVallotton
    @BrianVallotton Год назад

    I really enjoy your work. Thank you for your thoughtful and concise teaching!

  • @SavageD-qi2ti
    @SavageD-qi2ti Год назад

    Super helpful video, really been loving your info as I'm getting started on this audiophile journey, they've been super helpful.

  • @yo3429
    @yo3429 2 года назад +75

    Yes, EQ is the most misunderstood tool, specially 'high end' freaks turn around if you start talking about EQ. But even with ALL high end speakers I had, EQing was necessary for room correction. So let'm walk away and enjoy yourself.
    For iPhone, KaiserTone got nice EQ tools, sure, for music only.
    Listening with normal 15$ dynamic inears, I do (measured) correction up to 2 kHz, 2-12 kHz by ear (to much individual components, that can't be measured good enough). The cheapies EQd sound better than a bunch of real expensive iems with non eq. At the end it's still a individual thing, but never got lucky with the harman curve, I guess they did a sort of restroom acoustic.

    • @riposte5127
      @riposte5127 2 года назад +3

      I always think EQ is OK, especially to fix part of frequencies. But most people is not fixing their audio with EQs. With an analogy, they add too much ingredients when they only need add fried shallots

    • @yeagmatic
      @yeagmatic 2 года назад +8

      @@riposte5127 That's not for you to decide though, it it? Most of it is subjective

    • @barbasour
      @barbasour 2 года назад +5

      I've never seen any "'high end' freaks" turn around when somebody is talking about EQ. literally every audiophile knows what it's for. what is this snobbishness?

    • @raiyankhanmajlis6112
      @raiyankhanmajlis6112 2 года назад +5

      @@yeagmatic less to do with "subjective" and more to do with not correcting to flat before applying personalized EQ

    • @yo3429
      @yo3429 2 года назад +9

      @@barbasour Maybe there are 'cultural differs' in the way, audiophiles think. Or let's say, there are many purists, that won't touch any sound control unit cause it's not 'pure', even if the room or ear canal do massive frequency peaks. So in the end, that's OK, too. Won't judge anybody. Just can't understand it really, I call them masochists :)

  • @gimmickmusic8827
    @gimmickmusic8827 2 года назад +6

    Excellent video. I actually discovered the equalizer function on your graph tool last weak and have been messing with it since then. While there are things that EQ can’t really fix (like imaging) but this is definitely a way to experience your headphones/IEMs in a different way.

    • @concertmaster
      @concertmaster 2 года назад

      what is imaging dependent on?

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 года назад +4

      Mostly mids and highs as they serve as directional clues for human ears

  • @bleeprattify
    @bleeprattify 7 месяцев назад

    Just found your channel this past week... love your humor and knowledge man! We would be great friends!! keep grinding.

  • @afrosage2676
    @afrosage2676 Год назад

    The explanation on the different frequencies was really helpful, Thanks.

  • @nikolaygramchev
    @nikolaygramchev 2 года назад +1

    Marvelous! So far I am doing that using the RME ADI-2 DAC FS. Now it would be going to full control and greater easiness.

  • @bithalver
    @bithalver Год назад +1

    Easy and straightforward instructions. Thx a lot !

  • @CrashCarson14
    @CrashCarson14 Год назад +1

    Wow thank you! Looked at the database of the AutoEQ, and it has all of my earphones and Headphones. Pretty complete database

  • @Yellowredstone
    @Yellowredstone 2 года назад +3

    Awesome! I have been using APO since your previous video and it has been very helpful (my current headphones are very muddy), and this is more of a tutorial on how to actually do it yourself. Thanks!

  • @SmilinKev
    @SmilinKev 2 года назад +46

    Very interesting and informative video, Crin! I just wish I could capitalize on your insights and advice, but I’m limited by hearing loss [as a consequence of age and, 50+ years ago in the US Army, a sustained period of having to endure close and unprotected exposure to some very large boomsticks!]. Nevertheless, I’m grateful for the chance to learn more about what actually happens when I try to fiddle around with the souundstream that’s fed to me by my headphones, IEMs, and hearing aids. Thanks! {Full Disclosure: I’m an unapologetic IOS guy (iPhone & iPad) when it comes streaming most music . . . and I use a CD player and a Schiit Loki Mini Equalizer and Magni 3+ amp for enjoying classical music. I hope this doesn’t disqualify me from being a subscriber! ;^) }

    • @sushiman56
      @sushiman56 Год назад +3

      Thank you for your service Sir! Love from the UK 💖

  • @whatr0
    @whatr0 2 года назад +13

    as someone who just bought a pair of KSC75's, i can 100% confirm that if you try to push anymore bass into them it sounds like dogshit. I just tried casually producing some music on them to see how they would work and hoo boy, if you crank the lower frequencies at all it gives you a brand new meaning to bass bleed. everything is like clipping *and* muddy at the same time it's incredible.

  • @orse631
    @orse631 6 месяцев назад

    Im fairly new to this and this helped me a lot! best video ever thanks!

  • @markemunson
    @markemunson 2 года назад +6

    Just found out your old channel got aliven't, finally made it back to audio dad

  • @brunodeluco
    @brunodeluco 2 года назад +5

    This is one of the most “must see videos” of RUclips

  • @sukhmeetsinghsodhi3261
    @sukhmeetsinghsodhi3261 2 года назад

    I love this guy! I bought my kz zs10 pro for gaming and I could not use it to listen to music, I auto eqed with some extra sub bass. THANK YOU!!

  • @JonesBrown-hy8cs
    @JonesBrown-hy8cs Год назад

    Been using it for a few days and the sound quality is great.

  • @keshara283
    @keshara283 10 месяцев назад

    Laying in bed watching this on my newly received ZS10 Pros as my first IEM. And WoW I have a lot to learn, I really appreciated playing the shifts in frequencies, thanks!

  • @transcendtient
    @transcendtient 2 года назад +4

    Thanks man. I'm not an "audiophile" but I spent like 20 minutes on this and now I know my headphones sounded like shit without Peace APO.
    Some background... I bought my headphones for battery life because its mostly for gaming (the battery literally lasts 2 weeks), so I got the Sennheiser GSP 370 and I used the autoEQ for the GSP 600.

  • @dehnpeterson5650
    @dehnpeterson5650 Год назад

    Nice Food for Thought video for experimentation! Thank you

  • @oldmangaming3715
    @oldmangaming3715 2 года назад

    Thank you very much :) For a long time now I have had a problem that certain frequencies create a resonance in my livingroom. But now with this windows EQ that is fixed. I have been in the dark for years :(

  • @navemarine3981
    @navemarine3981 2 года назад +2

    the absolute moment i decide to go on the journey of using autoeq this drops and i consider this a sign from god

  • @FernTheApprentice
    @FernTheApprentice Месяц назад

    Used auto eq to harman on my steelseries headset and I'm hearing instruments I didn't know existed in Lost In Paradise. It's nuts tysm

  • @slothninja5180
    @slothninja5180 2 года назад +6

    S12 EQd to IEF Neutral is absolutely fantastic. Everyone that owns that S12 I believe should do this it turns into a borderline endgame IEM.

    • @linolingelbach2214
      @linolingelbach2214 2 года назад +3

      IEF neutral with bass boost is 🔥👍

    • @slothninja5180
      @slothninja5180 2 года назад

      @@linolingelbach2214 I use both. When I feel like having a bass boost I use it but more times than not I find on the S12 the bass is more than adequate just using IEF Neutral.

  • @MrKarush
    @MrKarush 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you, Wavelet helped me a lot. The default tuning of the Sony WF1000XM4S sucked. I tried fixing it myself using the EQ built into the Sony app, but Wavelet did it much better with AutoEQ.

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 2 года назад +1

    Holy cow wavelet is great, thanks!

  • @theFirstMark
    @theFirstMark 2 года назад +31

    There's one BIG thing that might explain the audiophile's proclivity against EQ: Phase effects.
    Dan Worrall has a great set of videos about different types of EQ and what they do to the phase/temporal information. The gist is that you have to trade off between maintaining the accurate timing of audio events and maintaining the phase of co-incident events. This occurs for every single individual filter type, which means every individual pole in an EQ.
    What does this mean for people tuning their own IEMs? It means that you MIGHT get the tuning you want, and it might be a perfect target curve of your liking, but you might very well DESTROY the soundstage in the process. Phase-dependent information includes things like imaging and timing. I might get my breakbeats to sound more treble-forward, but I might turn those fast snare attacks distant and washy in the process.

    • @YTHandlesWereAMistake
      @YTHandlesWereAMistake 2 года назад +5

      Hence the hate among some of the users. I'm very sensitive to changes in soundstage and have tried eq-ing manually, automatically, via help from others, etc., but each time (on diff devices, too) I compare against the neutral and almost always return to no tuning

    • @PeacePassenger
      @PeacePassenger Год назад +8

      No, "phase effects" are not a problem for using EQ on headphones.
      Remember that in a linear time invariant system such as headphones, ANY change to the magnitude frequency response will also change the phase frequency response.
      It doesn't matter whether that is done with an EQ filter or by changing the tuning of the headphone itself. Adding damping meshes will change the phase angle,removing damping meshes will change the phase angle. Increasing or reducing the front volume will change the phase angle. increasing or reducing the length of the front tube will change the phase angle.
      Adding or removing a venting hole will change the phase angle.
      Anything that changes the magnitude ("frequency response") also changes the phase angle.
      This means that any headphone that doesn't have a completely flat magnitude frequency response will already not have a flat phase frequency response either.
      By applying EQ to fit the magnitude to the target curve, we are removing the difference between the headphone's frequency response and the frequency response of the target.
      And if we're using minimum phase filters to do that, we are automatically also removing the difference between the headphone's phase and the phase of the target.

  • @JochSejoMusic
    @JochSejoMusic 2 года назад +1

    I usually do EQ by ear so hi-fi music and movies sound perfect to me. I mix music a lot so I hear what needs tweaking for my taste at least. I just did EQ on my audio-technica ATH-E40 and the 4 kHz range ( I cut -13 dB) which was the biggest problem. It sounds much more realistic now. That standard high midrange boost probably made it easier to hear if on a loud stage, but in the studio it should not be there...

  • @DrBrovahkiin
    @DrBrovahkiin 2 года назад +4

    This tool is so dope. I now have a profile that matches the Dusk to the B2 (just to see what it sounds like) and also a Harman 2019 v2 Dusk curve that is VEIL REMOVING imo. It's revealed a few mistakes on some songs that I never heard before haha

    • @yochiranwhatsup6527
      @yochiranwhatsup6527 22 дня назад

      where to download this tool because on the website there is only description

  • @BeyondFunction1
    @BeyondFunction1 Год назад +1

    It's about time someone did a video on this subject. Well done.
    There's one thing you mentioned that isn't clear to me. That part about not boosting past your gain. How do you figure out what that value is? With a "audiophile" device like a dongle or dac/amp (be it desktop or portable) or a DAP, there's probably a datasheet or something? But what about a basic device like your phone?
    P.S. - Also, props for linking to your suggested EQing tools. Haven't heard of the ones you suggest for Android. I've been using one that AFAIK is just called "Equalizer". Ten bands, but the bands are fixed i.e. you can't customize the wavelengths, but you can make your own custom EQs using those fixed bands. Seems to work well enough.

  • @mustdobetter6748
    @mustdobetter6748 Год назад

    Thank you for this. Very informative.

  • @firstlast4592
    @firstlast4592 7 месяцев назад

    Love your work! Thanks! Just starting to understand some things. It's amazing how little I knew a few years back, and most people know almost nothing about sound. Just like me in the past, believing my Razer Kraken Pros were good for music, and after that I got a HyperX headset and was amazed and hated Razer and their intense marketing. After that I learned a few things here and there and got myself Audio Technica ATH-M50x. The difference was amazing and I fell in love. Sadly, my dog chewed those to pieces. Now after 2 years I managed to gather the funds for the BeyerDynamic DT 770 Pro. I am very happy. I don't believe they're necessarily the best but they are more than enough! I hope I keep learning and in the future look to myself right now as ignorant!

  • @leokeepgoing1262
    @leokeepgoing1262 2 года назад

    nice review! thanks for sharing

  • @NKF1C
    @NKF1C 2 года назад

    Most useful video crinical ever made!

  • @mlagathomason2555
    @mlagathomason2555 2 года назад

    I was very wary about using eq at first but now its the most fun thing in this hobby since getting new headphones. you can have just bass and nothing else or just highs and nothing else, this shit was hilarious even if your not going to use it practically. even said that I do use it practically but on;y when actually listening to songs. its a bit of a hassle to open every time for gaming or just watching videos

  • @jonathangott8286
    @jonathangott8286 2 года назад +1

    If the headphones/earbuds I use are not on AutoEQ, how quickly do they typically get added? For reference I use Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X on my PC and Sony Linkbuds S for my phone (Android).

  • @bobbymah2682
    @bobbymah2682 4 месяца назад

    This is the best EQ video ever!!!!

  • @jjbrenes
    @jjbrenes Год назад

    Thank you very much, excellent explanation.

  • @TheTrenya
    @TheTrenya 2 года назад +1

    I'm using Wavelet on my Android for a year now, really love it!!!.. I don't need to EQ everything, most of the time I just crank the Buffer size slider to max at 8192 samples and not using EQ at all.. And boy it make a big difference, in a good way.. yeah the latency for bluetooth device will be bad, but it's still good for music or movie, and I'm using wired IEM most of the time anyway..
    Well I'm a noob in term of EQ or audio, so if I want to use auto EQ, for bass tune I'm using Grado Hemp or Ibasso IT04 for mid range, and done with it.. lol

  • @danlightened
    @danlightened Год назад +8

    I've been use the EQ like you did in the later half since 15. I'm over 30 now and with a lot of trial and error, articles and videos, I kinda understand now what each frequency does and what boosting/cutting them does.
    But this video of yours is the shortest and most comprehensive and well demonstrated video on this subject. I wish I found something similar when I was 15.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 4 месяца назад

      ill just keep writing and let youtube decide which to show, they might appear eventually too

    • @danlightened
      @danlightened 4 месяца назад

      @@iikatinggangsengii2471 What

    • @danlightened
      @danlightened 3 месяца назад

      @@iikatinggangsengii2471 I didn't get what you're talking about.

  • @leotrumpet
    @leotrumpet 6 месяцев назад +1

    I can't give enough thumbs up. I have the Pixel Buds Pro (shame on me 🤣) and recently discovered that in the audiophile community they are pretty "disliked". I don't have any good audio gear and always wanted to listen to "well sounding" headphones. Just imported the harman eq for my buds and didn't hear any difference at first. But then I realized. What on earth are these high hats?! They suddenly sound like real ones and not those weird ishhsss and zzzzss' that I heard before.
    This video saved me from asking, what I could miss and if its worth buying some more expensive headphones or not.
    Best tutorial I have seen for eq with all the demos and descriptions you made at the frequences so far.

  • @robertfontaine3650
    @robertfontaine3650 2 года назад

    AutoEQ has a audibility test built in. How do you tune to your hearing if you use the audibility test data? :) Thanks. I added harmann curve to my old mdr 7506 and it was quite a nice improvement. Will play with it a little over the next couple of weeks. I'm trying to get my headphones basically flat and eq my source instead (working on making the mic sound better live).

  • @Dezaos
    @Dezaos Год назад

    Yo, this was a God send, thank you so much.

  • @Xerpocalypse_
    @Xerpocalypse_ 2 года назад +26

    If you’re on iPhone and want Parametric EQ, the Qudelix 5k is a good middleground, albeit not free. I wish there was a build of Poweramp for iOS.

    • @temporoyale6251
      @temporoyale6251 2 года назад +3

      Even on Android, PEQ is not really free or available without root. Qudelix 5k FTW!

    • @victorfranca85
      @victorfranca85 2 года назад +6

      qudelix might as well be free. Best money ive ever spent. Its an amazing little thing.

    • @xddddddddddddd
      @xddddddddddddd 2 года назад +1

      @@temporoyale6251 poweramp has a yearly sale where it's not even 20 cents no i got it that way

    • @mokapot8779
      @mokapot8779 2 года назад +1

      There's Neutron Player with a really good Parametric EQ. Horrible UI though, but you'll get used to it after a while

    • @Sterilitzia_Reginae
      @Sterilitzia_Reginae Год назад

      @@mokapot8779 Agreed, so hard to navigate lol but glad for the auto eq

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 2 года назад +4

    Ok wow, thank you for this.
    On my Logitech G Pro X it made it too quiet after auto EQ, which I figured was the pre-amp being at -6.8. I put that to 0 and activated Peace's automatic anti-peaking option instead, which I hope does the job. It's way too quiet otherwise.
    But oh god it sounds so much better now, it feels like the audio equivalent of putting on glasses.

    • @steel5897
      @steel5897 2 года назад +1

      Well nevermind, that auto anti-peak just sets it down and keeps it there, it's not as active as I imagined.
      I'll have to lose some volume to use the config, but it IS a lot better.

  • @benstanfill363
    @benstanfill363 2 года назад +1

    I have a set of the akg n400s and use EQ because I like a little more bass than they come with. I've always been a fan of EQ make bad head phones decent, decent headphones good, and good headphones great.

  • @FranciscoMR
    @FranciscoMR 2 года назад

    I am looking forward for your test of the Shure Aonic Free. I get dizzy with ANC so have been waiting for TWS earpghones with T100 nozzle like my trusty Etymotics. All the best!

  • @SanchezOKelly
    @SanchezOKelly 2 года назад +1

    Let's say I have a device like a dap - would I just try to enter in the band adjustments as closely as I can there? Is there any way to read the output of the IEMs to see where I am at as coming from the device? New to this trying to learn still.

  • @scottpolston6137
    @scottpolston6137 2 года назад

    Oh man I love eq peace gui apo all day long I love it to death complete game changer for all my media consumption needs with my Ifi zen stack and lcd2 and cascades love it love it love it

  • @mertonnephake
    @mertonnephake Год назад

    I have been using a personal approach to equalize my headphones or earphones, I used it before I knew that the AutoEQ existed and still use it for models that are not in the database. First I create a file with white noise, e.g. in Audacity, and then separate it into individual bands using 31 band EQ, i.e. attenuate all bands except for one and save multiple files. Then I scan these files with a Replay Gain which should make the perception volume of these files pretty equal, I guess this step may be omitted if I used pink noise instead. Then I play these individual band limited files of noise and compare them in terms of loudness to each other and change the level of each frequency band respectively, the result is often pretty good, though it is not as accurate as using appropriate measuring techniques and using a parametric or a graphic 127 band EQ. (I prefer the AutoEQ to this technique if the phones are in the database.) I also use it sometimes to the addition of the AutoEQ if I replace my original earpads which also changes the sound signature, they sometimes provide more EQ profiles for some headphones with different earpads.

  • @nikilragav
    @nikilragav 2 года назад +6

    Do you have the raw data from your measurements somewhere? Do you also measure at different volumes?
    I'd like to code something on top of this to help even further with eq using electrical engineering and signal processing algorithms

  • @Ironkhight
    @Ironkhight 2 года назад +1

    Almost at 100k again, it really is meant to be

  • @fahryst
    @fahryst 2 года назад +3

    good points you made but I still find EQing or using Auto EQ profiles kind of a hassle. When I change my headphones I have to change my profile too and I usually forget that. Also reliability of measurements or unit variance is a thing. Not every 8k peak is a 'peak' for example. In this sense Resolve's video touched these topics better. In the end I think you find a headphone you mostly like and try to change the little things you don't like with eq. Trying x band eq to see what each frequency does to your particular headphone is a good idea and a big step to EQing by ear.

    • @PeacePassenger
      @PeacePassenger Год назад

      Measurement is not a problem unless you have crin, oratory etc. Also i trust yours yoo because they look more stable allways to me. This eq completely changed the buying behaviours. For example if i was in this hobby 10 years before, i would be just care about tuning and comfort. Now im just looking for distance from the target on iems and headphones(no peaks or cuts bigger than 10db). If they give more technicalitites, who cares about the tuning?

  • @shishankagrawal668
    @shishankagrawal668 11 месяцев назад +1

    so this eq can permanently change how your eims sound like, i mean how does it work really does it change something on the hard ware of eim by playing the driver in a certain way or it's like a filter over the actual output of the eim so that you need this software running in the backgroud while you are using your eim and so if you switch device with no 'eq software' your iems will again sound like what they orignially do?,, i am just not sure who does eq works please inlighten me, thanks🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @GrimGearheart
    @GrimGearheart 10 месяцев назад

    So, as a livestreamer, I run my headphones through a mixer, the GoXLR. As an amateur to the audiophilic ways, I'm curious if a Windows EQ program will still work with my headphones? I bought a pair of Blessings 3 and I hear a lot of people say it's lacking in the bass department. So I'm interested in just giving it a little nudge in that area? Any advice from anyone would be highly appreciated.

  • @dennisthenothing5139
    @dennisthenothing5139 6 месяцев назад

    Love the description XD.

  • @bloodbond3
    @bloodbond3 Год назад

    Is it possible that a tool could be made to EQ one earbud to another's profile by playing the same noise through both and comparing them with a microphone you have on hand? If you use one as a reference point for the other, it may make up for the potential difference in microphone qualities, right?
    Or am I way off base here?

  • @user-ku7xi3sl7p
    @user-ku7xi3sl7p Год назад

    Extension is just how I like it. Instruments like cymbals just sound amazing.

  • @MissOaky
    @MissOaky 2 года назад +1

    Unrelated, but Crin are you gonna measure the PRO X series of headphones from Beyer? just curious how their graphs would look like.

  • @jordanlessing6265
    @jordanlessing6265 5 месяцев назад

    I need help for my gaming headset I want to ask a question can I override my headset that I use on my console and drop the base so I can get better audio and will it work when I put them into my xbox controller im trying to understand if I can change the headset base on a computer and unplug it and it saves on my headset when I connect it to my controller will it still be saved

  • @magmaman8119
    @magmaman8119 2 месяца назад +1

    proooooo thank you sooo much ❤❤❤
    i have a kz x hbb pr2 iem
    now its much better 😁
    thanks from all of my heart 💗

  • @barelydigital30016
    @barelydigital30016 2 года назад

    hi i have a question.. I dont know if this is a stupid way to tune my earphones to somewhat flat (i like flat sound) but what i did was I have a TRN mt1 and I searched the graph onto your website (used it as my reference) and used EAPO on my pc, and on the EQ, since the mt1 is tuned to a vshape and a bit bloated bass so what I did is bring up the mids and bring down the bass region to get that "flatter sound". is this a someone acceptable way to EQ my earphones?

  • @jonold975
    @jonold975 2 года назад

    Thank you for the insight

  • @FullKarenMusic
    @FullKarenMusic 6 месяцев назад

    That's awesome. A profile for the AKG k361 would be great. Peace has one, but I don't get to see that awesome graph.

  • @snoozathon
    @snoozathon 10 месяцев назад

    i really liked this tutorial, the jokes were much softer :) thanks!

  • @jb678901
    @jb678901 Год назад

    I didn't know much about EQing, then got into it first when custom tuning a set of earbuds using a free app. The earbuds were unlocked (i.e. EarFunFree Pro 2) and able to be tuned with my Android phone (Samsung GS10+) using an app called "AirReps15 6x" to establish a persistent 10-band default tuning. Before doing this, I first found a Pink Noise site and used my headphones to identify my personal resonant ear canal frequency (i.e. 6000Hz...I am over 50...so the frequency is on the low side, I suppose). Once I had my resonant frequency as reference, I used third party presets from another RUclipsr (Oluv's Gadgets). In any event, the earbuds went from sounding like crap to sounding terrific.
    This set me on a path to discover how I could do this using my PC as the music source and also able to deliver lossless quality. As I use a Windows 10 Pro PC, I needed a proper solution and chose the FiiO BTA30Pro, which has TX, RX, and DAC modes...so I can use it wireless OR wired.
    When wired, I choose DAC mode to feed an AMP (Yamaha CR-420 receiver or Nakamichi SR-2E receiver).
    When Wireless, I set the BTA30Pro in TX mode and settle for AptX Adaptive (codec) using my IEM BT5.2 earhooks (KZ AZ09 Pro's). The earhooks I marry to a variety to IEM's (e.g. S12, T3+, Oilna, HeartMirror, etc.). However, here I need to leverage EqualizerAPO with Peace (a user friendly GUI), both are free EQing software. I have taken presets from GITHUB's AutoEQ for most of my IEM's plus my planar headphones (HE400se, when cabled to my receiver) and it works like a charm. The instructions are simple for a non-programmer and the setup was pretty fast.

  • @tcc5750
    @tcc5750 2 года назад +4

    3:29 Rohsa is cultured.

  • @erikliterature8162
    @erikliterature8162 2 года назад

    Just pointing out that I can't get an auto EQ if I want to use a graph other than the top one if an IEM has switches. Tried with TSMR Land and only graph for 000 works. Same with TSMR Zodiac, and also Fearless Dawn. Can you check that? Thanks for the video. Also, where's the graph for Tripowin Olina?

  • @BichaelStevens
    @BichaelStevens Год назад

    Thanks, my HD6xx now feel...the same, but a small bit more clearer? Neat.

  • @goblin4562
    @goblin4562 Год назад

    I have blackshark v2+sound card. I downloaded the windows equalizerAPO, and check marked the configuration devices on THX spatial audio and razer sound card, after it rebooted, i lost sound, didnt want to tinker further without asking, so i uninstalled it along with the configurations, rebooted and it fixed it, but i still want to try to EQ cuz my headset sounds really muddy, it has a really loud bass, the low frequency is constant, liks echoing, thumping sounds, so any help would be appreciated.

  • @donvittoriosierra
    @donvittoriosierra 2 года назад

    If I do the auto eq generate a profile, can I just export it to be used in an EQ like APO? How does that work without having to copy every single value onto the EQ software?

  • @the_rustydoornob1164
    @the_rustydoornob1164 Год назад +2

    If ur on apple get the music player app hs player, it’s basically built for audiophiles, it has a 10 band eq and preamp control, it’s amazing, it made my kz’s last longer before I upgraded and realized they were average

    • @CashPope
      @CashPope Год назад

      can't seem to find it anywhere, how did you download it?

  • @moldorm30
    @moldorm30 Год назад

    Can you please explain to me the settings in EAPO? I have no idea what each slider does and can't find shit about them online. I'm mainly aiming to make my moondrop chu sound more "full", and definitely increase the bass.

  • @MondayMoustache
    @MondayMoustache 2 года назад

    if im using Poweramp EQ for a parametric autoeq setting, should poweramps parametric be set to "envelope" or "cascade"?

  • @polla2256
    @polla2256 2 года назад

    Holy shit, you made my Jabra 75t's sound awesome using wavelet.

  • @1pashok
    @1pashok 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the android app and apo skin mentions. Im tuning by ear with sin tone sweep generator. What are the pros and cons of this method vs microphone?

  • @corralero86
    @corralero86 Год назад

    I have a Steelseries Siberia 800, and can't find any profile on the softwares mentioned neither in the graphtool 😢need some help pls

  • @nagarjunareddy3234
    @nagarjunareddy3234 Год назад +1

    Is this only gonna work when it's connected to the device through which it's tuned in?
    Or works automatically on any devices.

  • @monsieurVi
    @monsieurVi Год назад

    Hi, has anyone mentioned here distortion issue? The less distorted frequency band you want to eq the better? On the other hand, when there’s distortion in particular frequency eq is not recommended. Thanks and If there are any further thoughts on this I would appreciate reading them in comment section below.

  • @Rammothe
    @Rammothe Год назад

    I have BLON BL 03 and using wavelet app, if I change the headphone model in app is it really play lik original one that is selected ? After changing the model I can feel that sound change but I dought if it's really play lik original more expensive model headphone why others buy them ? Just but cheap ones and change the model what ever you want 😃 and thank you I'm just using 3.5mm dongle only not dedicated dac 😃, replying to me is appreciated 👍