I personally think Kyle is the best Car enthusiast in the world he gives you the most info, at the end of every video you feel you have learnt so much. Also not to be overlooked is he and the team are so hardworking.
I noticed that too. He's taken a big leap forward in the last little while in terms of on screen presence - so much information at his fingertips. I think the intensity of the month in Europe really turbo-charged him.
So just to comment on Polestar2 charging curve.I got my 2021 standard AWD in October. Used EA only couple of times (before 1.7 ota updete),and it charged at 150kw steady up to 50% state of charge.Then it slowly tappers of up to 80%. It still pulls 90kw at 80% So in my opinion,charging curve is very good
Wow, 2 hours of video? You guys are making a movie. Thumbs up before watching just for the effort you put into it, Kyle. Good job. One addition: I think it's worth mentioning about each of their real-world ground clearance since they all call themselves "SUVs". Thanks to your dad that just measured the ID4 AWD which has 8.2", I believe it is the most suitable "SUV" out of the batch, about 2" taller than its competitors here. And a taller ride also contributes to more consumption (worse mile per kw). But it is probably the only one that I could dare to take to go onto the beach or onto the dirt roads.
As a new owner I’m happy to see the polestar getting some votes amongst these crossover it’s definitely more of a sedan than any other vehicle in this comparison.
There has been update(s) for the Polestar 2 AWD that it now gets similar efficiency as the lower output, FWD P2, according to Edmund's EV range testing.
@@KyleConner I've test driven all of them and it's between the base GT and Gradient ID4 all wheel drive for me. 3.8s 0-60 of bouncy fun or German practicality with a roof rack? I need the car that will bring me joy and stay relevant for years. Halp!!!
I really love the diversity and seeing more models to choose from with their own flavor and features. Given there’s all have similar range, an equally important consideration is how long do each of these take to charge. The VW, Polestar, and Ford can take up to twice as long compared to the Model Y to add the same amount of energy depending on SOC. Add that the more efficient Tesla goes further on the same amount of energy and it all amounts to less time charging/waiting to charge and a very noticeable difference when traveling away from home. Our family has purchased five EV’s over the last 8 years, and no other brand is as easy or fast to recharge as Tesla’s Supercharging network. I’m not against any non-Tesla, but also know how important it is to be aware of this major difference in charging, before making a major EV purchase. Happy shopping!
Well, I'm still watching the video so I might make some more comments, but as a new owner of a Polestar 2 as of last Thursday I will say that the purchase experience and availability were both excellent. I ordered mine online on 9/20 and picked up 11/4. 2022 Model Year, everything but Performance Package and leather. The whole process was painless and seamless and the only part that felt traditional to your point was going into the dealer to sign the usual paperwork, which was a non-issue as a good chunk of that was government mandated (title, plate application and so on). Beyond that I did get the dealership upsell of wheel, tire and windshield protection which I took as it only slightly increased my monthly payment and with US roads crumbling as badly as they are I figured it wouldn't hurt. All in all, an excellent and simple buying experience that I'd recommend to anyone.
I just love this Channel it's the go to for me. I love Kyle's knowledge ,enthusiasm, passion, the dedication to letting us know everything about these cars and the attention to Detail fantastic.
@@normt430 I know, but i had a polestar that had some trouble, was 16 times in the Volvo dealership. And they just can't do a thing. Everything need to be comunicated with the Polestar headquarters, and if you have a problem, they say. you need to talk with Polestar. we are just a service center. we can not help. it is annoying as f. good when everything is fine. but not good when you have troubles. I sold my Polestar just because of that. lost sadly enough 10,000€ on that sale :(
At the end of the day, there are now many great choices for an EV based on what you prioritize. I chose the Polestar 2 and couldn't be happier, but go with any of these EVs (or the many others that are coming out soon) and you'll probably not regret it.
@@vjhicks8533 I drive a Moon 2021 Launch Edition (dual motor long range with Pilot and Plus packs) with the Barley leather, standard wheels and no Performance Pack. No regrets, although I do wish I could have the gold seatbelts ;-)
Amazing video, with great cars! I've ordered the Polestar, and living in Norway one of the main reasons for me was its winter driving ability. The fact that it is all wheel drive at all times makes it a much safer driving machine in the snow in my opinion :)
this is probably one of my favorite videos of yours.....very informative...relatively non biased ....and all around fun. Looks like everyone had a great time. 👍🏼
1:51:48 Sorry Patrick is wrong. All non-GT Mustang Mach-Es come standard with CoPilot 360 Assist 2.0 which has hands-on adaptive cruise control with lane centering, Ford’s version of Autopilot. Hands-free BlueCruise requires an optional prep package on Select trim that is standard on CA-1, Premium, and First Edition trims
I was seriously considering the Model Y. But after a year of price increases, a Bill that might make it a "wash" and a ridiculous wait for a Tesla, Kyle has me swayed toward the VW.
"until you see it next to an *actual* mustang" 😅lol. Awesome breakdown of each. Would add how often Tesla remote updates change vehcile features. None of the others come close, from range to alerts to games to remote sentry mode - none of the others manufacterers come anywhere near close of OTA updates and software improvements.
I made this decision, and chose the Mach-E (and have ordered a GT). I don't like Tesla interior layout, style or service options, did not want to deal with the Polestar service experience and smaller storage capacity, and the id.4 is not the driver's car I wanted. I have a great local Ford dealer, the Mach-E had my favorite interior layout and functioning, and even the GT (non-Performance Edition, which is what I chose) gets 270 miles of range with a sub-4 second 0-60. Regardless, though, I'm thrilled U.S. buyers finally have *choice* (with more to come) of EVs in this segment!
Thank you Kyle for this terrific review! I've got a 5 hour flight tomorrow and plan to watch this whole thing! Out of Spec and InsideEV's are easily the best youtube destinations for EV news, reviews and road trips.
Kyle your parents are smart. Dave and Kathy have been doing great with the videos. He has had a lot of id4’s I bet Dave has charging under control. I’m 57 and have no problems. I don’t need a Tesla I can use the others fine for 6.5 years.
i havent even heard of you until recently when i saw you on TST podcast and i was blown away by the quality of your content. insane that i have never ever heard of you or seen you before on youtube. and i watch TONS of car content on youtube. very very strange youtube algorithm there. i have watched like 100h of your content over all the different channels over the past few weeks....i absolutely love your in depth content, very very very informed videos, absolutely based opinions on everything, top notch presentation and like...speech...absolutely blown away. 11/10 content. one of the best channels on youtube if youre into electric cars. or just even cars. so happy i found your channels. keep it strong! love you guys. big shoutout to anna and alyssa too. what a bunch! love from germany
@Kyle Conner I believe the Polestar has an efficiency mode, Its called "Range Optimizer". Reason I say this is, I have a Volvo XC40 and it runs on the same 1.7 OTA that was just delivered. It would have been neat if your driver had a moment to find this in the infotainment system (which is very easy to find it) and test using that. It is supposed to make the car a bit more efficient. Not sure if it changes the charging curve, either You or Tom M can test this. Great video as usual!!
Kris Rifa just got 144 kw charging to 40% in his Polestar 2 after the P1.7 OTA update.The temp was 3 degrees C, or 36 degrees F. He said the preheating prior-to-charging upgrade gave him a better speed than his Tesla Model 3 in the same temp. Things are changing fast.
I am loving my Polestar 2, but there is simply no denying they need to work on efficiency. They have added a heat pump option for 2022 along with software updates to increase the range, but they really need to get the weight down as I think that is the single biggest negative with the PS2. Still, if you have a 2nd car better suited for long road trips the Polestar 2 is an otherwise great daily driver.
Another issue with the Polestar is that the recycled ocean plastic weave fabric seats reflect heat instantly back into the body and makes for a sweaty experience. And this was on a cooler April Seattle day.
I’m saving this video for everyone. Really good to see the differences and show that tesla isn’t the only dog in the game, but also for doubters of EVs. Tesla fan myself but I can appreciate its advantages of nitpicking disadvantages
Why do I feel that the Ariya will not hold its own when released. It’s like Nissan is always holding itself back. Like swimming with bricks tied to its feet.
The other issue is the Ariya was shown WAY before the Hyundai/Kia ev's were even previewed. Now those vehicles are already on the streets and Ariya is still vaporware. By the time it's actually sold Nissan will be way behind and playing catch-up. Hell, bz4x and solterra might be out before Ariya at this rate.
@@randy2558 agreed. How are they the first to market with a full BEV but have not come to market with any follow up models. And barely revised the leaf second gen. It’s just a pain to watch. And let’s not get started on Toyota. The Prius line has been on the market for 22 years in America and they are still playing catch-up.
I don't like the tire squealing stuff on public roads, but besides that this is the best comparison test out there. Plus, Kyle is clearly one of the most knowledgable people on RUclips (he has become the American version of TeslaBjorn). Thank you for a great video.
ID4 I think is the best value with tax credits and 3 years free charging. Model Y is simply too expensive now. Mach E is nice but the ID4 seems to be just better value. Polestar is good but kind of a bad interior to me and is expensive
Current wait time if you order a Model Y today is 8 months. And there's not a single one in stock anywhere. Seems like Tesla could raise the price another $10 grand and still couldn't keep up.
YOU ARE one of the best. Without any doubt. You are amazing. Much better than many journalists. ... My future car...? I'm thinking...probably ID4. The confort, space and rolling silence is amazing.
Loved the video. Another one these at a slightly higher price point would be awesome! Maybe Mach-E GT, Model Y Performance, E-Tron, and i-Pace?? Idk if I missed any other EV SUVs in the $60-100k range.
These all look like race cars (even the mustang) and Rolls-Royces to me simultaneously compared to the base model Subaru Crosstrek that I’m currently rocking lmao. Although the Mustang is disappointing in the performance department, that interior, design, and software is phenomenal, however. Tesla is of course all around phenomenal, but something about it lacks charm to me. There are so few customization options that it feels like every Tesla driver has the same car. ID.4 is a fantastic daily driver crossover, and possibly what I would buy if I had a realistic budget and shopping criteria, but it is a different style entirely compared to the rest. They’re all going athletic/mean and VW is going practical/happy. Both choices have merit. I like that ambient lighting though lol. Polestar seems the least interesting to me, but I will admit that body design is sleek as hell. And those gold belts and calipers are also sweet. My overall consensus (even though nobody asked for it nor even knows who I am): I’d buy the Mach E as a daily for that interior and software, or the ID.4 for its overall value, space, and vibe. I wouldn’t DC fast charge enough to warrant charging curve playing a major role in the decision, hence Mach E. ID.4 and Tesla are close seconds and thirds. Polestar doesn’t stand out to me in any place that counts, so I couldn’t see myself ever choosing it, but it isn’t bad by any means. Model Y is also great, as we all know, but it feels like it would get stale after a while. Something about the fact that they’re popular, but you always see the white color, turbine wheels, and same minimalist interior. It’s like the Model T of the modern era. EV for the masses that is insanely practical but highly mass produced The performance is cool, but like I said, I’m coming from a base model Crosstrek with the manual trans and everything, so performance and speed play almost no role in my choice since they would all feel like light speed to me. I respect Tesla and would love to own one, but if I could pick, I would go with the Mach E. All of the problems he raised with it are totally legitimate. Something about it’s character and vibe speaks to me though. I had no expectation for you, whomever you may be, to read this, but since you did, tell me your verdict on the four vehicles. I am actually curious since all the categories they covered have different value to different people. Like performance isn’t a big one for me, but it clearly is to them to a decent extent. This is an insanely long comment, so thanks for your time.
Kyle, just about everyone I know purchased their Mach E online like I did and I paid MSRP like everyone else, yes you go to the dealer to pickup the car but if you buy the car online it’s a fixed price the dealer can’t charge it after ... the only time the dealer has control over the price is when the dealer purchased the car and reselling it at whatever price they want but whatever price you locked in online is the price you pay.
Love this video! I've been trying to keep track of details between cars through bits and pieces of other vlogers, and this is by far by the best. Incorporates all the important details in one place. Love it. Do more when more cars are released. Want to see comparisons between these and the new Korean offerings.
People who say the Polestar is too expensive need to watch this. You guys show why it's so expensive. Of course, it could be better. I also think it has the best quality interior. It's also clear the two European cars have the best build quality and build quality doesn't go away as a priority because a car is electric. If anything, it's a good reason for paying more for a vehicle. I think the Polestar 2 PP is too firm for rough roads, the standard suspension is firm but not in such an extreme way. At the end of the day, better for vehicles to be sedans for performance than crossovers and chassis sophistication matters. The Mach E isn't much of a Mustang and not terribly sporty until you get into the GT. But I don't think it needed to be called a Mustang. It's good, though.
Yes they have now made available a power upgrade download for the Polestar giving it over 500 hp. I look forward to seeing a test of it soon. I need to drive a couple trim levels of this vehicle to see how I like it. Really like the regen adjustability of the Kia EV6 with the paddle shifters though and wish other vehicles had them.
Watched about the first 30 minutes I'm like Wow, this one's kind of long. I look and see it's 2 hours 😂 Hit pause. Go make a bag of popcorn and Kick my shoes off. I wished I had one quarter of your car knowledge!
Kyle your enthusiasm and dedication to EV knowledge and sharing that with your viewers is awesome. And your Dad did a great job on his personal ID4 comparisons.
Great video! Kyle’s videos are a large reason I considered the ID.4. The test drive was the reason I bought one, even though the nearest Electrify America charger is almost 50 miles from me. I have had my ID.4 3 months and could not be happier!
@@227MacWC I test drove a Tesla. I don't ever want to sit in another one again in any capacity. Not to mention the dated 2016 looks it still has in 2022. You do you.
I'm mostly looking between the ID.4 and MY. The latter really depends on if the price drops next year, or if I can find a good deal on a used one. The ID.4 is such a good value. My only gripe with it is the lack of a front-trunk. It's the perfect spot to place things like toolkits and the portable EVSE. That way your cargo isn't in the way if you need to grab those things.
hands down the best thorough ev comparison I have ever watched, thank you. I test drove the polestar this morning with the plus and pilot package, wowowow.
Thorough, that was really epic, love the passion. Hey, for next vid, how about a real world performance driving comparison of the Y Perf, the GTPE, and the Polestar w/Perf? Take them on some twisties and a hill climb, etc., and see how they stack up, esp over some time, say a morning in the mountains. I think there's a lot of people in the 'entry-level' performance category that would really find it helpful. Cheers!
Great video review, would love to be able to test drive all of them. Only have driven 2wd versions of the Id.4 and mach-e. Looking for AWD for Utah weather in the winter. AWD is very popular here in the Intermountain West.
I'm okay with reserving some battery life, it's the same case for ICE cars as well. Your fuel light came up earlier than 0 mile left, and most cars can still run after it shows 0 mile. But it is bad for your fuel pump to run at super low fuel level. So you are not going to run it dry anyway. I don't know why people say tesla's seat is comfortable. I'm 6'2, being a big guy, tesla's seat is a bit too small and narrow for me, padding is thin, and no ventilation seat is a killer for us living in the south. ID4 Pro S doesn't have vent seat neither, but it's fake leather (same as tesla's) is perforated, so there is some air flow underneath, and the padding is way more comfortable. Also, I have to disagree with the guy on glass roof. I actually like that none of the traditional car maker have a glass extends above the rear seat, because although you get more head room sitting upright, on road trip most people in the back would recline the seats and chill. However, being 6'2, that huge bar where glassroof ends actually bump into the back of my head. I have much worse experience in the back of model Y than others.
When I was shopping for a replacement for my 2015 Tesla Model S 70D, all of these were at least kind of considered and I ended up with an ID.4 RWD Pro S w/Gradient. My thoughts: Mach-E: Too expensive compared to Model Y, not a fan of the interior, fan of the exterior design, poor DCFC strategy, no free charging Polestar 2: My favorite, but not as good of a value compared to ID.4. Best suspension and styling and very unique car. Model Y: Everyone has one which makes it not very special, rough ride, loud cabin at interstate speeds and lack of availability. ID.4: Readily available (at least when I was shopping in July), 3 years free charging on EA, most comfortable (massaging lumbar!), VW quality, awesome charge curve - only wish I had gone AWD (wasn’t available yet) for better performance.
@@brandenflasch that’s not bad, but in this electric age, it isn’t quite as fast anymore. And the fastest ID is just a little faster then the slowest Tesla, for comparison
But I do like the look of the ID’s , dont get me wrong But how is the UI and software? A lot of ID owners complain about the lack of updates and buggy software, is this the case ?
@@dax0474 for most people, the acceleration is probably the fastest car they’ve ever owned. A Tiguan is nearly 10sec 0-60. 0-60 is such a stupid metric. Software is slow at times but I just use CarPlay 99% of the time anyway so it doesn’t really matter
Thanks for this, Kyle. I ordered a Premium AWD Extended Mach-E two weeks ago. Mine priced out to $56,900, so just under $50K with the tax incentive (I got in writing / email from my dealer that they will not mark up the order). I've always wanted a Tesla, but that was before they were everywhere, the design feels more dated now, and learning more and more about how Tesla conducts business. Now I just need to find a way to wait the six months for mine to arrive!
I agree with you on the Tesla critiques. I almost bought one summer of 2020, but when I test drove it, it seemed so souless. I thought "this is it?" They are so good on paper though. I would recommend on to anyone w/ money and no care for cars.
Just a heads up Kyle - Ford has a new subscription thing they are rolling out for EA that will charge you $2 more a year than just subscribing to EA but it is 12 months pre-paid and works with Ford Plug and Charge. So $2 penalty to just have Plug and Charge but good I guess if someone wants to pay for that convenience. PS: Thanks for these great videos. Best EV dude on YT.
I’m just glad that all four of these EVs are now available for sale in the US. Seems like it’s been a long time coming. A neighbor just bought the Mustang and loves it. We bought a Model Y and have never regretted our decision.
Looking for next vehicle to replace 2013 X3. Being retired not looking for high performance. Really liking the ID4 but will wait for them to adapt LFP batteries and increase their charging rate.
I think for rideshare, ID 4 would be a pretty good deal because I've heard someone that got a really good deal with the dealer as well as tax credits + the free Electric Gas from electricity America. That would make your cost go down a lot since it's 3 years free.
Australia could only wish for those prices, Tesla and polestar start at 59k +, Mach E and ID not available. We have the new Kona arriving shortly starting at 63k. That’s a huge increase over petrol version.
Thank you for an awesome video! I've actually newly ordered the Polestar 2, but not the dual motor - I went for the standard range single motor. I almost never need to fastcharge, so I felt I'd rather save some money (the standard range charges slower than long range, which might be important if you often need to use DC charging - it's not very important to me). I ordered both the Plus and Pilot packs, though.
My VW dealer is near my house and I've bought from them twice. Now they're pushing the ID4, they actually had the nerve to tell me it's "practical". I said "Practical? Really? Then where's your charging station?" The salesman said "We don't have one here." Lol! So much for being "practical"! Electric may be the future but currently it's an unsupported pipe dream.
We test drove the Volve XC40 Recharge and for our needs it just wasn't near good enough. The back seat is small and weirdly cramped and the rear seat backs are almost completely vertical. The front is comfortable but no where near as comfortable as the ID.4. I couldn't imagine paying $10k more for the Volvo than then ID.4 knowing I'd be significantly less comfortable.
What's weird is the xc40 seems to have less space in the back than the polestar2 and much smaller back doors. I think they stole some room in the back for a bigger boot/trunk.
Its like the id.4 is paradoxically the least "sporty" but the most planted? I think its not really a paradox if you consider it in more of a "Stiff vs soft" and "Predictable vs unpredictable." A stiff but unpredictable car isn't actually desirable (and an actual ICE mustang sedan is known for having that problem). Soft but predictable/planted feel is obviously a good thing.
Kyle, you talked for 30 mins straight with what feels like no speaking errors, stutters or a teleprompter, kudos one take man
I personally think Kyle is the best Car enthusiast in the world he gives you the most info, at the end of every video you feel you have learnt so much. Also not to be overlooked is he and the team are so hardworking.
I noticed that too. He's taken a big leap forward in the last little while in terms of on screen presence - so much information at his fingertips. I think the intensity of the month in Europe really turbo-charged him.
@@Kopchronicles i know state of charge because of him
Yes. He’s the best cause his passion and knowledge of all things EV truly shows.
absolutely 100% agree.
So just to comment on Polestar2 charging curve.I got my 2021 standard AWD in October.
Used EA only couple of times (before 1.7 ota updete),and it charged at 150kw steady up to 50% state of charge.Then it slowly tappers of up to 80%.
It still pulls 90kw at 80%
So in my opinion,charging curve is very good
And Edmund's testing has the latest version withing about 10% of M3 perf too!
Wow, 2 hours of video? You guys are making a movie. Thumbs up before watching just for the effort you put into it, Kyle. Good job. One addition: I think it's worth mentioning about each of their real-world ground clearance since they all call themselves "SUVs". Thanks to your dad that just measured the ID4 AWD which has 8.2", I believe it is the most suitable "SUV" out of the batch, about 2" taller than its competitors here. And a taller ride also contributes to more consumption (worse mile per kw). But it is probably the only one that I could dare to take to go onto the beach or onto the dirt roads.
Liked it before watching it too!
Oh man. 2 hours of EV content? I am so ready!
As a new owner I’m happy to see the polestar getting some votes amongst these crossover it’s definitely more of a sedan than any other vehicle in this comparison.
Yep, test drove it and the back seats are as small as any sedan I’ve ever been in. Fun car tho!
Yea Keep supporting the CCP to build a bigger army to take over you
@@rmflyer1258 Yep. Buy American built cars made in USA and eh.......... Mexico and eh .................CHINA!
There has been update(s) for the Polestar 2 AWD that it now gets similar efficiency as the lower output, FWD P2, according to Edmund's EV range testing.
It was fun to get to see this being made and to have our Mach-E in the video! Great work!
Thanks for all the help! Great to hang out
Tell the truth...were you cringing at the tire squealing?!?!?
@@DouginaBoxster Just a bit!
@@KyleConner I've test driven all of them and it's between the base GT and Gradient ID4 all wheel drive for me. 3.8s 0-60 of bouncy fun or German practicality with a roof rack? I need the car that will bring me joy and stay relevant for years. Halp!!!
@@anthonyc8499 ID.4 AWD
Literally the exact 4 vehicles I'm currently cross shopping! Love it
Got myself the Mach E and have not been dissapointed. Best of luck in your search!
Which one did you end up choosing?
I really love the diversity and seeing more models to choose from with their own flavor and features. Given there’s all have similar range, an equally important consideration is how long do each of these take to charge. The VW, Polestar, and Ford can take up to twice as long compared to the Model Y to add the same amount of energy depending on SOC. Add that the more efficient Tesla goes further on the same amount of energy and it all amounts to less time charging/waiting to charge and a very noticeable difference when traveling away from home.
Our family has purchased five EV’s over the last 8 years, and no other brand is as easy or fast to recharge as Tesla’s Supercharging network. I’m not against any non-Tesla, but also know how important it is to be aware of this major difference in charging, before making a major EV purchase. Happy shopping!
Mach e GT 100% test that you will love it.
Well, I'm still watching the video so I might make some more comments, but as a new owner of a Polestar 2 as of last Thursday I will say that the purchase experience and availability were both excellent. I ordered mine online on 9/20 and picked up 11/4. 2022 Model Year, everything but Performance Package and leather. The whole process was painless and seamless and the only part that felt traditional to your point was going into the dealer to sign the usual paperwork, which was a non-issue as a good chunk of that was government mandated (title, plate application and so on). Beyond that I did get the dealership upsell of wheel, tire and windshield protection which I took as it only slightly increased my monthly payment and with US roads crumbling as badly as they are I figured it wouldn't hurt. All in all, an excellent and simple buying experience that I'd recommend to anyone.
Did you go to a Volvo dealer or are there actual Polestar dealerships?
I just love this Channel it's the go to for me. I love Kyle's knowledge ,enthusiasm, passion, the dedication to letting us know everything about these cars and the attention to Detail fantastic.
Love the Polestar 2. I think it’s the best blend of all of the things I look for in an EV. Performance, tech, range, build quality and style.
Only thing it needs is dealerships that can help when i breaks down, and good customer support.
@@Telhmaaa that's what Volvo dealerships are for. The Polestar Space is just for ordering and delivery.
@@normt430 I know, but i had a polestar that had some trouble, was 16 times in the Volvo dealership. And they just can't do a thing. Everything need to be comunicated with the Polestar headquarters, and if you have a problem, they say. you need to talk with Polestar. we are just a service center. we can not help. it is annoying as f. good when everything is fine. but not good when you have troubles. I sold my Polestar just because of that. lost sadly enough 10,000€ on that sale :(
@@Telhmaaa sad too hear. No dealership near you? Where you at?
A feature length film comparing EVs!
At the end of the day, there are now many great choices for an EV based on what you prioritize. I chose the Polestar 2 and couldn't be happier, but go with any of these EVs (or the many others that are coming out soon) and you'll probably not regret it.
@De A teslas have the most durable motors and batteries, ill take that over a car with perfect panel gaps.
Nice. I’m planning to test drive a Polestar 2 next week. What configuration did you go with?
@@vjhicks8533 I drive a Moon 2021 Launch Edition (dual motor long range with Pilot and Plus packs) with the Barley leather, standard wheels and no Performance Pack. No regrets, although I do wish I could have the gold seatbelts ;-)
Amazing video, with great cars! I've ordered the Polestar, and living in Norway one of the main reasons for me was its winter driving ability. The fact that it is all wheel drive at all times makes it a much safer driving machine in the snow in my opinion :)
Dude, because of you and your channel (and your dad of course) I have finally ordered a few weeks ago ID.4 ProS. Great job! Thank you!
I find it so funny that he mentioned all of the cars door handles EXCEPT for the mustangs, which objectively has the strangest system!
this is probably one of my favorite videos of yours.....very informative...relatively non biased ....and all around fun. Looks like everyone had a great time. 👍🏼
I just cross shopped the same 4 vehicles and ended up with the Polestar 2. Earliest delivery and much better lease rates than the Model Y or Mach-E.
Me too… did you get the 2021?
Interesting to hear the Polestar leases well
@@Chris-dc7ye Yep
1:51:48 Sorry Patrick is wrong. All non-GT Mustang Mach-Es come standard with CoPilot 360 Assist 2.0 which has hands-on adaptive cruise control with lane centering, Ford’s version of Autopilot. Hands-free BlueCruise requires an optional prep package on Select trim that is standard on CA-1, Premium, and First Edition trims
Sorry about that. Thanks for the update.
This video is one of the best videos in this channel. Thanks for the effort to all. It was really fun to watch.
Excellent video I got the ID.4 Pro S but in my opinion they all great the more options the better.
I was seriously considering the Model Y. But after a year of price increases, a Bill that might make it a "wash" and a ridiculous wait for a Tesla, Kyle has me swayed toward the VW.
With Kyle, the longer the video the better.
"until you see it next to an *actual* mustang" 😅lol. Awesome breakdown of each. Would add how often Tesla remote updates change vehcile features. None of the others come close, from range to alerts to games to remote sentry mode - none of the others manufacterers come anywhere near close of OTA updates and software improvements.
My car M3LR AWD is a year old. And it’s not the same car it was when I purchased it.
ID4 AWD = dream car
I made this decision, and chose the Mach-E (and have ordered a GT). I don't like Tesla interior layout, style or service options, did not want to deal with the Polestar service experience and smaller storage capacity, and the id.4 is not the driver's car I wanted. I have a great local Ford dealer, the Mach-E had my favorite interior layout and functioning, and even the GT (non-Performance Edition, which is what I chose) gets 270 miles of range with a sub-4 second 0-60. Regardless, though, I'm thrilled U.S. buyers finally have *choice* (with more to come) of EVs in this segment!
Thank you Kyle for this terrific review! I've got a 5 hour flight tomorrow and plan to watch this whole thing! Out of Spec and InsideEV's are easily the best youtube destinations for EV news, reviews and road trips.
Kyle your parents are smart. Dave and Kathy have been doing great with the videos. He has had a lot of id4’s I bet Dave has charging under control. I’m 57 and have no problems. I don’t need a Tesla I can use the others fine for 6.5 years.
I’ve been waiting for a long time for this video! This will be a big hit! Thank you so much!
I dislike that Tesla keeps raising the price on the Model Y without notice. They've done it several times over the past month.
High demand, needed to slow down. They know people are buying them
i havent even heard of you until recently when i saw you on TST podcast and i was blown away by the quality of your content. insane that i have never ever heard of you or seen you before on youtube. and i watch TONS of car content on youtube. very very strange youtube algorithm there. i have watched like 100h of your content over all the different channels over the past few weeks....i absolutely love your in depth content, very very very informed videos, absolutely based opinions on everything, top notch presentation and like...speech...absolutely blown away. 11/10 content. one of the best channels on youtube if youre into electric cars. or just even cars. so happy i found your channels.
keep it strong! love you guys. big shoutout to anna and alyssa too. what a bunch! love from germany
@Kyle Conner I believe the Polestar has an efficiency mode, Its called "Range Optimizer". Reason I say this is, I have a Volvo XC40 and it runs on the same 1.7 OTA that was just delivered. It would have been neat if your driver had a moment to find this in the infotainment system (which is very easy to find it) and test using that. It is supposed to make the car a bit more efficient. Not sure if it changes the charging curve, either You or Tom M can test this. Great video as usual!!
Kris Rifa just got 144 kw charging to 40% in his Polestar 2 after the P1.7 OTA update.The temp was 3 degrees C, or 36 degrees F. He said the preheating prior-to-charging upgrade gave him a better speed than his Tesla Model 3 in the same temp. Things are changing fast.
Awesome video. Do it again as more models come online! Rivian, Hummer, Lightning, Cybertruck!
This was a great video. Long, but worth hearing about all of these models. Thanks for taking all of your time and effort in making this.
I am loving my Polestar 2, but there is simply no denying they need to work on efficiency. They have added a heat pump option for 2022 along with software updates to increase the range, but they really need to get the weight down as I think that is the single biggest negative with the PS2.
Still, if you have a 2nd car better suited for long road trips the Polestar 2 is an otherwise great daily driver.
Do you have the FWD or AWD version? Worried about range and wondering if it'll really make a difference to get that extra 20 miles
@@alexaurora4098 I have the dual motor/AWD.
Another issue with the Polestar is that the recycled ocean plastic weave fabric seats reflect heat instantly back into the body and makes for a sweaty experience. And this was on a cooler April Seattle day.
Just started watching and noticed the video is 2 hours long. Hell yeah!!!
I’m saving this video for everyone. Really good to see the differences and show that tesla isn’t the only dog in the game, but also for doubters of EVs. Tesla fan myself but I can appreciate its advantages of nitpicking disadvantages
Will be awesome when the Q4, Ioniq 5, EV6, and Ariya are included too. Looking forward to the 4 hour review next year! 🤣
Why do I feel that the Ariya will not hold its own when released. It’s like Nissan is always holding itself back. Like swimming with bricks tied to its feet.
The other issue is the Ariya was shown WAY before the Hyundai/Kia ev's were even previewed. Now those vehicles are already on the streets and Ariya is still vaporware. By the time it's actually sold Nissan will be way behind and playing catch-up. Hell, bz4x and solterra might be out before Ariya at this rate.
@@randy2558 agreed. How are they the first to market with a full BEV but have not come to market with any follow up models. And barely revised the leaf second gen. It’s just a pain to watch. And let’s not get started on Toyota. The Prius line has been on the market for 22 years in America and they are still playing catch-up.
Interesting that the only car not built on a bespoke EV platform is the one that is said to have the best handling.
I don't like the tire squealing stuff on public roads, but besides that this is the best comparison test out there. Plus, Kyle is clearly one of the most knowledgable people on RUclips (he has become the American version of TeslaBjorn). Thank you for a great video.
Thanks for putting so much work into this video. I'm going to look at ID.4s this weekend!
Charging curve after 1.7 update is almost better than Tesla now!
Great comparison and feedback from everyone who worked on the video. We appreciate the hard work.
Wow thanks for doing this can't wait to watch the whole video!
ID4 I think is the best value with tax credits and 3 years free charging. Model Y is simply too expensive now. Mach E is nice but the ID4 seems to be just better value. Polestar is good but kind of a bad interior to me and is expensive
Current wait time if you order a Model Y today is 8 months. And there's not a single one in stock anywhere. Seems like Tesla could raise the price another $10 grand and still couldn't keep up.
YOU ARE one of the best.
Without any doubt.
You are amazing. Much better than many journalists.
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My future car...?
I'm thinking...probably ID4.
The confort, space and rolling silence is amazing.
This is simply awesome. Very well done. Thanks!
i wish tesla would stop marketing their inflated range figures
Quite possibly the best EV video ever by anyone. You excitingly touched upon all of the things that many of us want to know.
And Ioniq comes out top!!!
Loved the video. Another one these at a slightly higher price point would be awesome! Maybe Mach-E GT, Model Y Performance, E-Tron, and i-Pace?? Idk if I missed any other EV SUVs in the $60-100k range.
These all look like race cars (even the mustang) and Rolls-Royces to me simultaneously compared to the base model Subaru Crosstrek that I’m currently rocking lmao. Although the Mustang is disappointing in the performance department, that interior, design, and software is phenomenal, however. Tesla is of course all around phenomenal, but something about it lacks charm to me. There are so few customization options that it feels like every Tesla driver has the same car. ID.4 is a fantastic daily driver crossover, and possibly what I would buy if I had a realistic budget and shopping criteria, but it is a different style entirely compared to the rest. They’re all going athletic/mean and VW is going practical/happy. Both choices have merit. I like that ambient lighting though lol. Polestar seems the least interesting to me, but I will admit that body design is sleek as hell. And those gold belts and calipers are also sweet. My overall consensus (even though nobody asked for it nor even knows who I am): I’d buy the Mach E as a daily for that interior and software, or the ID.4 for its overall value, space, and vibe. I wouldn’t DC fast charge enough to warrant charging curve playing a major role in the decision, hence Mach E. ID.4 and Tesla are close seconds and thirds. Polestar doesn’t stand out to me in any place that counts, so I couldn’t see myself ever choosing it, but it isn’t bad by any means. Model Y is also great, as we all know, but it feels like it would get stale after a while. Something about the fact that they’re popular, but you always see the white color, turbine wheels, and same minimalist interior. It’s like the Model T of the modern era. EV for the masses that is insanely practical but highly mass produced The performance is cool, but like I said, I’m coming from a base model Crosstrek with the manual trans and everything, so performance and speed play almost no role in my choice since they would all feel like light speed to me. I respect Tesla and would love to own one, but if I could pick, I would go with the Mach E. All of the problems he raised with it are totally legitimate. Something about it’s character and vibe speaks to me though.
I had no expectation for you, whomever you may be, to read this, but since you did, tell me your verdict on the four vehicles. I am actually curious since all the categories they covered have different value to different people. Like performance isn’t a big one for me, but it clearly is to them to a decent extent. This is an insanely long comment, so thanks for your time.
Kyle, just about everyone I know purchased their Mach E online like I did and I paid MSRP like everyone else, yes you go to the dealer to pickup the car but if you buy the car online it’s a fixed price the dealer can’t charge it after ... the only time the dealer has control over the price is when the dealer purchased the car and reselling it at whatever price they want but whatever price you locked in online is the price you pay.
Same here. The dealer I chose even accepted x-plan pricing.
I'm test driving VW.Id4 tomorrow, and hopefully the hyundai ioniq5 soon. Great video!
Love this video! I've been trying to keep track of details between cars through bits and pieces of other vlogers, and this is by far by the best. Incorporates all the important details in one place. Love it. Do more when more cars are released. Want to see comparisons between these and the new Korean offerings.
What! It has been 2 hours?! Amazing video! Keep it going!👍
People who say the Polestar is too expensive need to watch this. You guys show why it's so expensive. Of course, it could be better. I also think it has the best quality interior. It's also clear the two European cars have the best build quality and build quality doesn't go away as a priority because a car is electric. If anything, it's a good reason for paying more for a vehicle. I think the Polestar 2 PP is too firm for rough roads, the standard suspension is firm but not in such an extreme way. At the end of the day, better for vehicles to be sedans for performance than crossovers and chassis sophistication matters. The Mach E isn't much of a Mustang and not terribly sporty until you get into the GT. But I don't think it needed to be called a Mustang. It's good, though.
can't wait for kyle and the team to get their hands on ioniq 5 and ev6!
Yes they have now made available a power upgrade download for the Polestar giving it over 500 hp. I look forward to seeing a test of it soon. I need to drive a couple trim levels of this vehicle to see how I like it. Really like the regen adjustability of the Kia EV6 with the paddle shifters though and wish other vehicles had them.
Watched about the first 30 minutes I'm like Wow, this one's kind of long. I look and see it's 2 hours 😂 Hit pause. Go make a bag of popcorn and Kick my shoes off. I wished I had one quarter of your car knowledge!
Kyle your enthusiasm and dedication to EV knowledge and sharing that with your viewers is awesome. And your Dad did a great job on his personal ID4 comparisons.
Great video! Kyle’s videos are a large reason I considered the ID.4. The test drive was the reason I bought one, even though the nearest Electrify America charger is almost 50 miles from me. I have had my ID.4 3 months and could not be happier!
Test drive a Tesla, you won’t be disappointed.
@@227MacWC I test drove a Tesla. I don't ever want to sit in another one again in any capacity. Not to mention the dated 2016 looks it still has in 2022. You do you.
Great video Kyle. So true about some dealerships have no clue about electric cars. I would say Porsche dealers as well. Some have no clue 🤦🏻♂️
Love our vw awd id4. Looks nice at night as well. Would be nice to see bmw ix or Audi e-tron.
I'm mostly looking between the ID.4 and MY. The latter really depends on if the price drops next year, or if I can find a good deal on a used one.
The ID.4 is such a good value. My only gripe with it is the lack of a front-trunk. It's the perfect spot to place things like toolkits and the portable EVSE. That way your cargo isn't in the way if you need to grab those things.
hands down the best thorough ev comparison I have ever watched, thank you. I test drove the polestar this morning with the plus and pilot package, wowowow.
Thorough, that was really epic, love the passion. Hey, for next vid, how about a real world performance driving comparison of the Y Perf, the GTPE, and the Polestar w/Perf? Take them on some twisties and a hill climb, etc., and see how they stack up, esp over some time, say a morning in the mountains. I think there's a lot of people in the 'entry-level' performance category that would really find it helpful. Cheers!
Great video review, would love to be able to test drive all of them. Only have driven 2wd versions of the Id.4 and mach-e. Looking for AWD for Utah weather in the winter. AWD is very popular here in the Intermountain West.
I ordered the VW ID4, mainly because it's the cheapest, and the charging is still amazing on that car! And I just love the look of the car.
I’m pretty sure the Polestar 2 is not an SUV or crossover, it’s much closer to a hatchback/sedan than an SUV.
I'm okay with reserving some battery life, it's the same case for ICE cars as well. Your fuel light came up earlier than 0 mile left, and most cars can still run after it shows 0 mile. But it is bad for your fuel pump to run at super low fuel level. So you are not going to run it dry anyway. I don't know why people say tesla's seat is comfortable. I'm 6'2, being a big guy, tesla's seat is a bit too small and narrow for me, padding is thin, and no ventilation seat is a killer for us living in the south. ID4 Pro S doesn't have vent seat neither, but it's fake leather (same as tesla's) is perforated, so there is some air flow underneath, and the padding is way more comfortable. Also, I have to disagree with the guy on glass roof. I actually like that none of the traditional car maker have a glass extends above the rear seat, because although you get more head room sitting upright, on road trip most people in the back would recline the seats and chill. However, being 6'2, that huge bar where glassroof ends actually bump into the back of my head. I have much worse experience in the back of model Y than others.
Impressive opening segment Kyle. Not a single cut all that info off the top of your head.. thanks
Was sure my next car was a ID.4 but now it migth be the polestar😀
POLESTAR 2!!!!!!!!!!!
When I was shopping for a replacement for my 2015 Tesla Model S 70D, all of these were at least kind of considered and I ended up with an ID.4 RWD Pro S w/Gradient.
My thoughts:
Mach-E: Too expensive compared to Model Y, not a fan of the interior, fan of the exterior design, poor DCFC strategy, no free charging
Polestar 2: My favorite, but not as good of a value compared to ID.4. Best suspension and styling and very unique car.
Model Y: Everyone has one which makes it not very special, rough ride, loud cabin at interstate speeds and lack of availability.
ID.4: Readily available (at least when I was shopping in July), 3 years free charging on EA, most comfortable (massaging lumbar!), VW quality, awesome charge curve - only wish I had gone AWD (wasn’t available yet) for better performance.
The ID’s are Just to slow for me 🙁
@@dax0474 5.4 0-60mph is pretty solid IMO - VW’s 2022 GTI is 5.1 0-60 and that’s pretty much the standard for hot hatches.
@@brandenflasch that’s not bad, but in this electric age, it isn’t quite as fast anymore.
And the fastest ID is just a little faster then the slowest Tesla, for comparison
But I do like the look of the ID’s , dont get me wrong
But how is the UI and software?
A lot of ID owners complain about the lack of updates and buggy software, is this the case ?
@@dax0474 for most people, the acceleration is probably the fastest car they’ve ever owned. A Tiguan is nearly 10sec 0-60. 0-60 is such a stupid metric. Software is slow at times but I just use CarPlay 99% of the time anyway so it doesn’t really matter
16:50 “it’s all about the charging” - agreed 💯
stayed for the whole video. nice work guys.
Blockbuster length 😅
The RWD ID.4 went 343 miles at an average of 50 mph in the Netherlands.
Thanks for this, Kyle. I ordered a Premium AWD Extended Mach-E two weeks ago. Mine priced out to $56,900, so just under $50K with the tax incentive (I got in writing / email from my dealer that they will not mark up the order). I've always wanted a Tesla, but that was before they were everywhere, the design feels more dated now, and learning more and more about how Tesla conducts business.
Now I just need to find a way to wait the six months for mine to arrive!
I agree with you on the Tesla critiques. I almost bought one summer of 2020, but when I test drove it, it seemed so souless. I thought "this is it?"
They are so good on paper though. I would recommend on to anyone w/ money and no care for cars.
Thank you for putting all of this great content in one video. You could have made half a dozen videos from this!
Just a heads up Kyle - Ford has a new subscription thing they are rolling out for EA that will charge you $2 more a year than just subscribing to EA but it is 12 months pre-paid and works with Ford Plug and Charge. So $2 penalty to just have Plug and Charge but good I guess if someone wants to pay for that convenience.
PS: Thanks for these great videos. Best EV dude on YT.
44:00 can you trust a person who closes a door like that
And he does it again 45:20 🤦🏻♂️
I’m just glad that all four of these EVs are now available for sale in the US. Seems like it’s been a long time coming. A neighbor just bought the Mustang and loves it. We bought a Model Y and have never regretted our decision.
My first vid of yours was your LA Auto Show walk through (2021) and now this: I really appreciate the depth and detail! Subscribed!
Thanks for watching!
@@OutofSpecReviews I have to say that I claim you guys are a bit responsible that I had to order BST ... greeting from Finland
No mention of the hump in the backseat floor in the Polestar? Major negative IMO. I am making this during the interior run through.
Really helpful video. Great to see immediate reactions from car to car.
You forgot about the King's Red AWD Pro S Gradient. That is almost another $400.
In what bizarro world is the polestar 2 an SUV? (Or the Model Y and Mach-e for that matter).
Model Y has 2 more compartments in the trunk.
Excellent video… congratulations.. personally I love the Mach e
Looking for next vehicle to replace 2013 X3. Being retired not looking for high performance. Really liking the ID4 but will wait for them to adapt LFP batteries and increase their charging rate.
Loved this vlog! I'm a rideshare driver that's thinking about buying my first ev car for work and I'm leaning towards VW's ID 4!
I think for rideshare, ID 4 would be a pretty good deal because I've heard someone that got a really good deal with the dealer as well as tax credits + the free Electric Gas from electricity America. That would make your cost go down a lot since it's 3 years free.
Australia could only wish for those prices, Tesla and polestar start at 59k +, Mach E and ID not available.
We have the new Kona arriving shortly starting at 63k. That’s a huge increase over petrol version.
Any full review of the BMW i4 and comparison versus the Polestar 2 coming guys? Loving your reviews!
I would/ did pick the ID4, because I can and have fit a memory foam mattress and my scuba gear for a dive trip in the ID4.
Thank you for an awesome video!
I've actually newly ordered the Polestar 2, but not the dual motor - I went for the standard range single motor. I almost never need to fastcharge, so I felt I'd rather save some money (the standard range charges slower than long range, which might be important if you often need to use DC charging - it's not very important to me). I ordered both the Plus and Pilot packs, though.
Oh. I forgot to mention how much I appreciate your videos. Thank you and your amazing team.
My VW dealer is near my house and I've bought from them twice. Now they're pushing the ID4, they actually had the nerve to tell me it's "practical". I said "Practical? Really? Then where's your charging station?" The salesman said "We don't have one here." Lol! So much for being "practical"! Electric may be the future but currently it's an unsupported pipe dream.
I'm loving my Polestar 2!
We test drove the Volve XC40 Recharge and for our needs it just wasn't near good enough. The back seat is small and weirdly cramped and the rear seat backs are almost completely vertical. The front is comfortable but no where near as comfortable as the ID.4. I couldn't imagine paying $10k more for the Volvo than then ID.4 knowing I'd be significantly less comfortable.
What's weird is the xc40 seems to have less space in the back than the polestar2 and much smaller back doors. I think they stole some room in the back for a bigger boot/trunk.
Its like the id.4 is paradoxically the least "sporty" but the most planted? I think its not really a paradox if you consider it in more of a "Stiff vs soft" and "Predictable vs unpredictable." A stiff but unpredictable car isn't actually desirable (and an actual ICE mustang sedan is known for having that problem). Soft but predictable/planted feel is obviously a good thing.