I'm Malaysian to and yes it's true my parents are very strict on my grades cause they want me to be happy in the future but they're not that tight like Kousei's mom but the strict part is true
@@sealine22aj but that humour blood makes no scence cuz it's stylized to looks like serious blood and not comedy blood. It's a big design problem that have the anime cuz when blood fall from the violin girl, you don't really "care" cuz it's just same as the protagonist's blood. And it's kind of make you out of the story. You don't really know how to take it, either seriously or as comedy cuz they are designed same. Even basic anime comedy who mix comedy blood and serious blood know how to handle it (like Soul Eater Bleach, or Fma etc).
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'I wish you would just die', said Kosei, not realising those would be the last words he would say to his mother. It was thanks to her son's words that Saki realised she messed up. She wanted him to take her place, but her expectations were too high, even when her health was failing. This scene, alongside another spoiler, conveys the tradition that the best musicians lived tragic lives, like Chopin or Beethoven.
Peter Hardman When you open yourself for a lot of ways your life can very quickly become tragic or just dramatic. It's not a tradition. John Frusciante once said he'd had years of terrible, terrible... and that he thought how much he could have done when he was 20 years old. That maybe he could've gone trough this stuff easier, without becoming a drug addict. What he did after that is unclear to me now and sometimes like a painful unreal dream (i just went thru a horrible time a year ago and I WISH it never happened and actually wished to wake up in my bed when it's still may 21), but it can be itself motivating. so I wouldn't agree on that "tradition of tragic lives", but everyone goes through a terrible time. And some of these times should seriously have never happened.
@@chunnilal2111 meanwhile me, who gets beaten up with threats from my dad like he will kill me just because if i somehow get him mad (he already gets mad from yelling at me when i do nothing): 👍
Kim Caze coz its a mother child problem, most ppol just dont want to get involve, its different wen they arent related, ppol jump ryt in to help, but in these situations its hard to think what action is right and wud really help without really having urself involve.. seeing a mother do something like that to her son, her own flesh and blood, says alot and it scares ppol to take action..
How cruel, his is your child ....I mean CHILD . A child can play piano like him is already A Genius ......What's wrong about low marks .This scenes made me CRY
Yui FTAnime4ever He's a child who could play the piano like that BECAUSE of his mother in the first place- But yeah. She should be ashamed. But she did do that for a reason- watch the anime. It was kinda heartbreaking I cried my eyes out.
horohorosrin So you should spoil them into tender little snowflakes that can't bear a pinprick? Both sides suck; a parent would have to walk the fine line between
@@luqmuhmmad2616 the part where kousei only wanted to make her happy. Yet she treats him like that, no wonder why he wanted his mother to die... She deserved it, call me whatever the hell you want but I don't care, she's a bad mother...
I rewatched this scene yesterday and had a similar reaction. I've been abused too, albeit mentally. Hits home REAAAAALLLY hard, even if the parallels aren't exact. I'm autistic and I just want other people to accept me...and not on their terms. That rarely happens, so I've become bitter. Perhaps this isn't the best anime for me to watch given my background, but it's so good. >.>
No! Just no! The mother messed up big time. I don't care she's sick. That's not an excuse to abuse your child like this. There are different ways to prepare your kid for a loss... I'll never have a sympathy in anyone hurting others. There's never a proper reason to do so!! Never!
Which "She" are you referring to? It can't be Kaori or Tsubaki, because they make him bleed all the fucking time. Since you have the memory of a toddler, I'll provide you some examples: moesucks.com/2014/10/24/shigatsu-wa-kimi-no-uso-ep-3-a-psychological-horror-story/ moesucks.com/2014/10/31/shigatsu-wa-kimi-no-uso-ep-4-the-ends-justify-the-means/ moesucks.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/shigatsu-wa-kimi-no-uso-0501.jpg randomc.net/2014/11/07/shigatsu-wa-kimi-uso-05/ oi62.tinypic.com/2i1gkl5.jpg www.crymore.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Kaylith-Shigatsu-wa-Kimi-no-Uso-03-720p78688A86.mkv_snapshot_12.08_2014.10.29_20.50.39.jpg pbs.twimg.com/media/B61zPwTCUAEE5M5.jpg:large eastofthewire.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screen-shot-2014-10-31-at-1-37-27-am.png
Elina Carmina What the fuck? You don't have to go apeshit on me for stating my opinion. "Memory of a toddler". You didn't have to go through the trouble of linking a bunch of fucking sources unless you're so desperate to prove a point to a fucking 22 episode anime. Jesus Christ, who shoved a stick up your ass? Do you see Kousei suffering over his friends "beating" him? Anime humor is supposed to be fucking exaggerated. You can tell when it's serious or not.
as someone who has been abused, this scene breaks my heart. Not only is his mom abusing him she’s hurting him in the inside. Nobody’s perfect. Her illness isn’t even a good excuse for her to abuse the living shit out of him, because my mom also has a illness and beats the shit out of me. Someone should have called the police or step In, people commit suicide from being abused and they just say it’s nothing. Even if the parent were abused that also doesn’t give you the right to do that to your child. His mom is disappointing to look at and doesn’t deserved to be called a mom.
I agree. What she did was unforgivable! Who gives a flying fuck about her damn illness. She literally deprived her own kid a god damn childhood! That little boy wasn't even over the age of 10 yet and he's all covered in bruises from head to toe!
I'm so sorry you had to endure a period of pain and suffering. Even if you have something very personal, like an illness, whether it's mentally or physically, it's no excuse to hurt someone for making a mistake.
I know this is an old comment but I'd like to add my own perspective to show that just because someone has an illness or was abused doesn't mean abuse is right. My mother was abused, yet her reaction upon having me was to move as far away from most of the abusers as she could while still living in an urban area. In 2009 she was diagnosed with cancer and yet all her thoughts were on how to spend the best times with me, make the best memories, how to prepare for her passing since I didn't have anyone else who was healthy who could take me, etc. Her thoughts were on my life and happiness, not on her own mortality. She was most devastated that she wouldn't be able to see me become an adult. She never once lashed out at me. (However against all odds, my mother is still here, and I am happy for that.) The cycle of abuse can be broken, and illness is not an excuse.
I am part of asian and I hate it when parents want to be perfect. We are human, we make mistakes just accept it because without mistakes we would never learn perfection is just an illusion.
As someone who was also abused by his mother I really felt this scene. It was like seeing myself on screen with him getting beat up and the high expectations people have of him.
As harsh as Kousei's mother is, there is a part in the anime where we see her crying and worrying about what will happen to her son after she's gone. She's just really worried Kousei won't be able to survive and make a living for himself, and so she's pushing him out of the crushing stress and fear inside of her. Not saying she was right to beat her kid, but the whole scenario is a tragedy for both sides, whether in Kousei's perspective or his mother's.
hayashi manabu Of course. Saki abused Kosei due to high expectations; she wanted Kosei to take her place. Kosei's final words to his mother, a disowning rant, made it so tragic, the beat up pianist would fall into a two year depression. Then comes April...
Even though....she could’ve sat with kousei and spoke to him properly I mean he’s just a kid...all you need to do is tell him that he should do better than this and appreciate his hard work while telling him that it’s his mother’s dream and that’s it but not hitting him like an animal or something !
1:32 At that moment, she woke up from his son's words. 1:59 And hearing those words, made her realize what she has been doing to him and regrets it until her final moment. That sucks, after this scene Kosei's just dead inside and instead of grieving for his mom's death he's preparing for the competition. Children only wants to have their parents happiness that's why they work hard. Don't come to the point that you treat them like robots, they have feelings too.
I am actually impressed that Natsuki Hanae could even go that high pitch in voice. Though his voice as a younger Kousei did sound a bit older than what he was supposed to be but I still love it.
because while what she did does not have justification, she did everything out of love for her child, because she was afraid of what would happen to him in his future,so she did what she thought was best for him
Elina Carmina koari doesn’t abuse kousei why do u keep saying that yeah she might hit him but nothing serious all the “blood shed” coming from her or other characters is just for comedy’s sake. It’s not serious it’s over exaggerated which is why his “injuries” “heal” quickly. His mother’s abuse left bruises and scars for the sake of other noticing her abuse and gossiping about it obviously stating her abuse was serious. It didn’t only leave physical scars but mentally too. When it comes to abuse it’s not all about the physical things. His mother hit him and didn’t in the slightest show him love while his friend moved him with their words of worry and encouragement. My god it’s so obvious u don’t have to be smart to understand this.
You already failed as a mother when all you care about is if he can use his “talent” to support himself one day when you’re already out of time. You failed, utterly, when all you did was place a curse on him with the precious time that you had left when what he needed the most was the memory that he was loved.
His mother was a selfish asshole. I just finished watching this anime for the second time in my life. She did so many heartless and inhuman things to the child and he is just too special, loved her anyway.
Idk from experience I'd say it might be because mothers, even this one, shape the child in a good way as well. While they sometimes do horrible things, they might not always come from bad places. She wanted Kousei to have a good career as a pianist because it is hard to make a living as a pianist unless you're very good. People doing bad things don't always mean that they're bad people, and it's a peaceful thought that helps me through some traumatic experiences. Carrying hatred has done me and my mother more harm than necessary.
@@alexsupertramp5600 I wish you could heal from other sources not from: Evil people may be not that evil, they have their reasons. - Not a good source.
Guys i want to ask a question. I have seen this in most of animes(INCLUDING THIS ANIME) that AUDIENCE finds girls beating boys as funny and cute and praise the girl. I KNOW THOSE ARE JOKES, I laugh on them too. But would you guys still find this beating funny If genders are reversed.??? Because i have seen that then many people start hating the boy for abuse and violence towards a girl and did not take it as a joke. I just cannot understand this double standards/reactions.,, Feel free to correct me and sorry if i hurted you.👍
@@samsonstevens7181 friends don't push their buddies down to the ground and pummel them with kicks because they won't play piano for a girl who accused their friend of taking a panty shot and proceeded to beat on them. (Kousei wasn't allowed to say no to Kaori even though she falsely accused him and was literally choking him out. His friends beat him on the ground with their feet, stomping on him).
If I want my kid to be great, I should let him have fun with his friends. I should give him free will, let him choose his own dream and destiny. He doesn’t need to live up to my expectations or anyone else’s.
I cried at this scene more than the letter part because I kinda can relate to kousei. When I was a child, my mom had high expectations to my grades and I fulfilled her wish by bringing her all A's. She said that if I got good grades, I can get have a high salary work and she will be happy. I got all A until I was 8. I got a D in maths and my mom said I disappointed her. She was very stressed those days because my father can't work because he is very sick and she is pregnant with my sister. She talked like that out of stress. But I didn't know anything because I was 8. I tried really hard and didn't got good marks and my mom scold me with harsh words. So I just don't bother to get good grades anymore and I cry every night and whenever Im in the bathroom. My mom noticed and talked to me. Everything resolved and now I try to get good grades now DISCLAIMER :MY MOM IS NOT ABUSIVE. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SCOLD ME TOO.
when you said your mom was pregnant at that time, I understood it all. Most of the pregnant women tend to be easily agitated, so yeah.. that's how it is.
I don't believe that the anime justifies Suki's actions at the end, but instead represents Kousei's release from his mother's abuse and expectations. Also his realization that he is not at fault for her declining health or her death. Kaori's death was such a phenomenal stepping stone for him because he felt the same way until he realized that music is essentially what connects them and that's why he has to play, so that he won't forget.
Terrible as it is: Props to this kid. Not many have the courage to act much less speak against their parent(s). 🙏🏾 It’s a terrible emotional curse/shackle that we’re all bound to by birth; breakable but suffocating. 😔
I feel this kid, my mom used to beat me up every single day for not doing good in school. It was very difficult for me since I had ADHD but parents never cared instead I got scars on my back and hands .
We know the mother loves him already, but how can she live with herself seeing her own son having to hide his arms because of how bruised and beaten she's made it? It sucks that she never had a chance to redeem herself or for Kousei to get his mother back.
It was a heat of the moment thing but for crying out of loud, what else did you expect lady. You are beating your child infront of everybody, you are screaming at him and abusing him, what else he has to say to you. His last memory of you, is his mother abusing him for the hard work which he tried to do.
He just wants to make her happy, to make her proud. And this is what he deserve? The people are right, she is a monter! Only real anime lovers cried!❤️
While it's true she wanted to grant his own future this is going too far, to beat your child until he bleeds after he took the FIRST Damn place in the competition is ridiculous. he was also wrong by saying he wish his mother would die
@@elfryeorin tbh i feel the same way the kid is literally 8 years old in that scene correct? like how u gone do that ? the child even had a mindset about wanting to make his mother happy instead he gets a mom abusing the shit out of him for mistakes like that like dam
I resonate a lot with Kousei. Only physically disciplined, but verbally abused all the time throughout my childhood. Even now, although my relationship with my mother has improved a lot, since I moved out. It's really a shame that parents like this have turned out like that, but it's a result of their own upbringing and experiences. Best we can do is to learn from it, and make sure to do better, when it comes to our own future children.
This is what the reality is,she did those things to grow him,so that he can live without her and earn by himself,this is the reason he was known as the child prodigy,and if the boy himself loves his mum so much than why should we hate her? We never saw how much she suffered beating him,they never showed us much,the boy when he realised why his mother did all that was happy,that his mother truly cared about him
@@Raghav-nr5el Doesn't matter if she did care or not, the old hag couldn't even think properly on how to prepare her kid. Thank god her sickness put her down like the bitch she was.
Even if he is a genius that excels higher than anyone else, you gotta remember his limitations as a kid, he needs to have fun, you can’t expect him to pay as good as professional adults unless he literally plays the piano 24/7.
This is the first anime that ever made me tear up, and it was this scene that made it happen. I never thought I ever related to an anime character as much as Kousei, this scene was basically Me and my Dad.
Her son got beaten up to the pulp everyday for making a minor mistake yet still smiling hoping his piano play will cure his mom Imagine how shocked deep down for kousei's mom when he finally snapped and told her to just die, his mom had a good intention but she forced him too hard
Bish this is soo real to me.. becauseasian parents/moms will literally get mad at you for making a snakl mistake in a live performance.. "You practiced hours and hours and you'll make tht SMALL mistake!?!" Its real Bc i have friends like tht.
My mom did that when I messed up in a violin recital. She compared me to my younger brother, and he messed up as well. He was her "golden child" though, so it didn't matter to her.
And some say anime r for children . They r just cartoons. What emotions can they have.... Just watch this anime.. The depth of human emotions can be seen here. Though emotional but the ending was good. He ended up with a good girl.
As a youtuber i love said, your intentions doesnt change the final result. Yes, you wanted your son to be strong and to be a good pianist, giving him the only proly talent you could gave him, but that doesnt mean you didnt hit him and push him to the point he hated and wished you were dead. That doesnt erase his bad memories from childhood, or his afternoons without Tsubaki and Watari. That also, doesnt erase his musical ability. You can hate his mom or love her, you can forgive her or trash her, but for me... there´s no way you can say she didnt do anything wrong, because beating your own child IS a horrible mistake. The anime helps you to understand her view, but it doesnt mean they are justifying her.
This hit hard for me than the death of kaori, this scene resonated to me because, this is exactly what happen in my life, the difference is that it isn't about the piano, it's about my grades in school, the truth is I'm not an intelligent person, but I tried so hard to prove that i can reached higher grades, to get higher honors this includes doing some shady stuff such as cheating, initiating a massive silent cooperation, connection to intelligent students, infiltrating teachers office and many more, i did it because I wanted to proveto her that i am that kid, unfortunately throughout the duration of my school, I could only get at top 5 to 3 honor, those honors are nothing compared to being the top 1, but there was one moment where I was no honor at all, a failure as many may call it. And then this exact scene of this anime happen to me in real life, I was at grade 8 at that time, I failed mathematics, it was at home and then she throw the report card and bag at me and remove all notebooks. And then the exact dialogue was shared to each other, the only difference with our dialogue is that i didn't say i wanted her to die, i cried, she never see me cry, the only time she see me cry was probably when i was just a kid. I hide my emotions and feelings throughout my life because of a belief that no one would actually care, especially if boys cried, but when i was on my breaking point. I lash out like a crazy motherfucker who have lost all manners. And then just turns away as if I were a some kind of born out villain out of nowhere.
I don't get where people get "she's still a good mom because she got him into piano and still cares about him". I don't care, if you beat your child who loves you into hating you, you are a terrible parent.
Kid or not,That "child and parent" love is extremely fragile and once it breaks,once the kid snaps NO matter how many apologies and excuses there's no going back or even hope of repairing it,That kind of relationship and bond is very strong but if it's broken you know said person,most of the time the parents REALLY messed up. It doesn't matter what your beliefs are or what you think,There are no excuses for this kind of treatment especially from the stronger bond between the parents to the child who is the mother.
That little, wholesome, innocent and loving smile he has before starting to get beat is heartbreaking... after that, his face is just the most horrible combination I have ever felt: grief, extreme sadness, anger, and so much despair. My father isn’t exactly an abuser... but his treatment towards me has always been deplorable. Questioning and judging every single inch of my being. And then, some time ago, he said he was going to adopt a homeless kid in the hopes he “came out right.” ...yeah...
The sad thing about being abused from a young age, you start to accept that as your reality. Being abused for a long time from your earliest memories means your outlook on the world and your situation is vastly warped. You believe that your situation is okay because it’s “normal” for you. It takes something, some outside force, to remove those lenses on the world and show you that what happened wasn’t okay. My own experience being that I was once beaten black and blue, to the point of bleeding, on the backs of my thighs and I thought that whatever happened, I forget why I was punished, was bad enough for me to deserve the punishment. It took years until I went to a therapist at 19, for her to look at me and say “that wasn’t okay.” For my entire reality to shift ever so slightly for things to be clear. I realized that everything I’d ever known, the hitting, the throwing, the slapping, all of that wasn’t normal and wasn’t okay. I would watch those “stop child abuse” ad campaigns and completely ignore them or brush them off because “my dad doesn’t put cigarettes out on me, and my mom doesn’t drink until she’s passed out on the couch, I’m not being abused.” Abuse comes in all shapes and forms and isn’t always physical.
Maybe the reason the eyes aren’t drawn is because,aren’t eyes the window of the soul? The boy didn’t like his mom and maybe didn’t imagine her having eyes because in his mind she was a monster?
It's funny when I watched this I didnt exoect this series to even have this scene. Kinda why I loved the piani again. This series made me realize soemthing bout myself in the world's harshest and most beautiful ways
i didnt get a single tear when kaori died but the story with his mother and him made me cry more than twice and more... i hated his mom really at the beginning but after finishing this anime i couldnt hate her anymore even when arima is my favorite of all times i just cant hate her i dont know why but im ok with that because it was actually so sad that his mom got so mentally ill that she didnt realise what she did to arima in that case she suffered even more than arima with all the punches he got and that is a important part too!
Even if you want your child to excel at his brilliance, you must remember that he's a kid. Kids need to have a childhood
13rinslet true
😣😣😣😣
I'm Malaysian to and yes it's true my parents are very strict on my grades cause they want me to be happy in the future
but they're not that tight like Kousei's mom but the strict part is true
Arif Kirito I'm sorry to hear and I hope u will collect the money soon ....
simha brion So you really mean he will buy a tent?
I really hate his mom, even after knowing her condition. child abuse is child abuse
But it's okay for Kaori, Tsubaki, and Watari to abuse him instead?
They don't abuse him like that, they dont beat him until he bleeds. That's just typical anime humor and logic
@@sealine22aj but that humour blood makes no scence cuz it's stylized to looks like serious blood and not comedy blood. It's a big design problem that have the anime cuz when blood fall from the violin girl, you don't really "care" cuz it's just same as the protagonist's blood. And it's kind of make you out of the story. You don't really know how to take it, either seriously or as comedy cuz they are designed same. Even basic anime comedy who mix comedy blood and serious blood know how to handle it (like Soul Eater Bleach, or Fma etc).
@@narudayo5053 The entire context is clearly displayed with body language, music, setting, and the situation being represented in that moment.
@@elinacarmina3050 at least they cared in such a way that it was justified. And besides unlike his mom they believed that he could do well.
Shit gets real if the glasses gets removed
Yeah, right.
Depends.
In this case yeah
Why did I laugh at this? I should be sad, but...damn.
@@Queen_Sakura Your fucked up.
Lmaaaoooooooo shit gets real son
It breaks me to see him smiling right before she beats him
@@swaroop2518 I never said anything about Kaori
swarooP you keep bringing this up. Let it go
Hey can you tell me where I can watch this anime?
@@MrPositiveguy download chrunchyroll and turbo vpn and the just open turbo vpn and connect to US server by clicking the rabbit button and then open chrunchyroll and watch your lie in April Or others like naruto, aot etc✌
@@himkeshchaturvedi8797 Oh wow! Thank you! I really appreciate your help! 😊🙏
Poor Kousei. He had an abusive mother who was also dying. Also, she didn't have eyes. That must've been hard for him.
we meet again
_cxffee beanzz_ Because he couldnt remember how she looked like and this is his memories
_cxffee beanzz_
woooosh? or not?
He should have told her that she deserved this. The cancer, her sickness, her death. All of it.
@Joaquin Gomez they didn't draw them because they wanted her to seem like an antagonist
'I wish you would just die', said Kosei, not realising those would be the last words he would say to his mother. It was thanks to her son's words that Saki realised she messed up. She wanted him to take her place, but her expectations were too high, even when her health was failing. This scene, alongside another spoiler, conveys the tradition that the best musicians lived tragic lives, like Chopin or Beethoven.
Peter Hardman When you open yourself for a lot of ways your life can very quickly become tragic or just dramatic. It's not a tradition. John Frusciante once said he'd had years of terrible, terrible... and that he thought how much he could have done when he was 20 years old. That maybe he could've gone trough this stuff easier, without becoming a drug addict. What he did after that is unclear to me now and sometimes like a painful unreal dream (i just went thru a horrible time a year ago and I WISH it never happened and actually wished to wake up in my bed when it's still may 21), but it can be itself motivating.
so I wouldn't agree on that "tradition of tragic lives", but everyone goes through a terrible time.
And some of these times should seriously have never happened.
Disclaimer: please don't say Fru did this to himself, just don't, you need to trust me if you don't want to deeply understand his life and stuff
Why Beethoven?
It always the part when they kids say the parents should die... That part when their realized the mistake their did
@@brianshooter_6723 can'y exactly blame him for saying that either though so idk how to feel now
Beating a kid with a stick in front of a lot of people until he bled, I might have jumped in or called the police.
someone already called the staff, and some people didn't want to get involved because it will create another big problem.
@@sneppy5735 well it's worth the trouble since the kid has talent and his cuteness
You should've dropped kick her
Some people also think that it is actually ok to beat children and don't get involved. It is kinda common in Asia but it is not that cruel
@@chunnilal2111 meanwhile me, who gets beaten up with threats from my dad like he will kill me just because if i somehow get him mad (he already gets mad from yelling at me when i do nothing): 👍
WHY TF THOSE PEOPLE ARE JUST WATCHING
Kim Caze coz its a mother child problem, most ppol just dont want to get involve, its different wen they arent related, ppol jump ryt in to help, but in these situations its hard to think what action is right and wud really help without really having urself involve.. seeing a mother do something like that to her son, her own flesh and blood, says alot and it scares ppol to take action..
Kim Caze Because its normal in areas like those to abuse your child
anime logic. that's what.
YEAH WHERE IS SOCIAL SERVICES OR CHILD WELFARE OR WHATEVER SERVICES THAT DEALT WITH ABUSED KIDS?!
Cause there are Asian, NoOne fucking cares about you although you're fucked up!
How cruel, his is your child ....I mean CHILD . A child can play piano like him is already A Genius ......What's wrong about low marks .This scenes made me CRY
Yui FTAnime4ever He's a child who could play the piano like that BECAUSE of his mother in the first place-
But yeah. She should be ashamed. But she did do that for a reason- watch the anime. It was kinda heartbreaking I cried my eyes out.
There is no reason to beat your child. Period. Playing piano is pretty low on the "piss-poor excuse list," too.
horohorosrin no I think it’s not right that she beat him for that reason and where she was beating him but doesn’t mean you shouldn’t beat your kids
"Doesn't mean you shouldn't beat your kids." Uh. Yeah. It does. Beating your kids is abuse.
horohorosrin So you should spoil them into tender little snowflakes that can't bear a pinprick? Both sides suck; a parent would have to walk the fine line between
can’t believe people are justifying his mother’s actions.. y’all are crazy people.
Nobody does.
She shouldn't have a kid in the first place
Where? Point me to em.
@@luqmuhmmad2616 the part where kousei only wanted to make her happy. Yet she treats him like that, no wonder why he wanted his mother to die... She deserved it, call me whatever the hell you want but I don't care, she's a bad mother...
@@MayEReyes-rk4ec nah i get that. I was saying where are the people who are justifying her actions.
00:33 - 00:57 my poor baby Kousei, the smile he had on before his mom slapped him my heart 🥺😭
I rewatched this scene yesterday and had a similar reaction.
I've been abused too, albeit mentally. Hits home REAAAAALLLY hard, even if the parallels aren't exact.
I'm autistic and I just want other people to accept me...and not on their terms. That rarely happens, so I've become bitter.
Perhaps this isn't the best anime for me to watch given my background, but it's so good. >.>
noo young kousei was so dam cuteee 😭😭why did he have to live like this 😩
@@LinkFanatic I’ve learned in life that sometimes the mental scars hurt more then the physical ones.
@@MccElite Absolutely. I'm still moving past traumas that developed in my childhood, on top of some during my 20s; I'm 31 now.
@@LinkFanatic ❤ deserve love's, take this loves my king❤❤❤❤❤
No! Just no! The mother messed up big time. I don't care she's sick. That's not an excuse to abuse your child like this. There are different ways to prepare your kid for a loss... I'll never have a sympathy in anyone hurting others. There's never a proper reason to do so!! Never!
EruvieBruinen I agree
Kaori is sick and she abuses Kousei. What's the difference?
Elina Carmina That's different. She doesn't beat him until he bleeds. It's just typical anime logic / humor
Which "She" are you referring to? It can't be Kaori or Tsubaki, because they make him bleed all the fucking time. Since you have the memory of a toddler, I'll provide you some examples:
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moesucks.com/2014/10/31/shigatsu-wa-kimi-no-uso-ep-4-the-ends-justify-the-means/
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Elina Carmina What the fuck? You don't have to go apeshit on me for stating my opinion. "Memory of a toddler". You didn't have to go through the trouble of linking a bunch of fucking sources unless you're so desperate to prove a point to a fucking 22 episode anime. Jesus Christ, who shoved a stick up your ass? Do you see Kousei suffering over his friends "beating" him? Anime humor is supposed to be fucking exaggerated. You can tell when it's serious or not.
as someone who has been abused, this scene breaks my heart. Not only is his mom abusing him she’s hurting him in the inside. Nobody’s perfect. Her illness isn’t even a good excuse for her to abuse the living shit out of him, because my mom also has a illness and beats the shit out of me. Someone should have called the police or step In, people commit suicide from being abused and they just say it’s nothing. Even if the parent were abused that also doesn’t give you the right to do that to your child. His mom is disappointing to look at and doesn’t deserved to be called a mom.
I'm really sorry that you have to experience that.
It's really moving to hear your thoughts about that scene. So thank you for sharing!
I agree. What she did was unforgivable! Who gives a flying fuck about her damn illness. She literally deprived her own kid a god damn childhood! That little boy wasn't even over the age of 10 yet and he's all covered in bruises from head to toe!
I'm so sorry you had to endure a period of pain and suffering.
Even if you have something very personal, like an illness, whether it's mentally or physically, it's no excuse to hurt someone for making a mistake.
I know this is an old comment but I'd like to add my own perspective to show that just because someone has an illness or was abused doesn't mean abuse is right. My mother was abused, yet her reaction upon having me was to move as far away from most of the abusers as she could while still living in an urban area. In 2009 she was diagnosed with cancer and yet all her thoughts were on how to spend the best times with me, make the best memories, how to prepare for her passing since I didn't have anyone else who was healthy who could take me, etc. Her thoughts were on my life and happiness, not on her own mortality. She was most devastated that she wouldn't be able to see me become an adult. She never once lashed out at me. (However against all odds, my mother is still here, and I am happy for that.)
The cycle of abuse can be broken, and illness is not an excuse.
@@SakuraKotoniIt’s nice to know your mother is still here, she sounds amazing, sending you and your family ❤
I am part of asian and I hate it when parents want to be perfect. We are human, we make mistakes just accept it because without mistakes we would never learn perfection is just an illusion.
Yeah that'sthe worst part of Asian parents!
But good part is "they loves you the most"
Me too, even if we are not perfect, it's a part of us
As someone who was also abused by his mother I really felt this scene. It was like seeing myself on screen with him getting beat up and the high expectations people have of him.
Awww… sending you a virtual hug rn!!!! 💜
I'm really sorry that you have to experience that.
And thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.
As harsh as Kousei's mother is, there is a part in the anime where we see her crying and worrying about what will happen to her son after she's gone. She's just really worried Kousei won't be able to survive and make a living for himself, and so she's pushing him out of the crushing stress and fear inside of her. Not saying she was right to beat her kid, but the whole scenario is a tragedy for both sides, whether in Kousei's perspective or his mother's.
hayashi manabu Of course. Saki abused Kosei due to high expectations; she wanted Kosei to take her place. Kosei's final words to his mother, a disowning rant, made it so tragic, the beat up pianist would fall into a two year depression. Then comes April...
I have never seen two comments that wanted me to cry until I saw this and realised.... I still hate his mum but less I think
Even though....she could’ve sat with kousei and spoke to him properly I mean he’s just a kid...all you need to do is tell him that he should do better than this and appreciate his hard work while telling him that it’s his mother’s dream and that’s it but not hitting him like an animal or something !
kibara Your absolutely right
Its not uncommon at all for this to happen in stricter asian families lol.
1:32 At that moment, she woke up from his son's words. 1:59 And hearing those words, made her realize what she has been doing to him and regrets it until her final moment. That sucks, after this scene Kosei's just dead inside and instead of grieving for his mom's death he's preparing for the competition.
Children only wants to have their parents happiness that's why they work hard. Don't come to the point that you treat them like robots, they have feelings too.
Kousei: I wish you would just die
Kousei's Mom: *Dies*
Kousei: *"Wait what"*
Kousei after he die, in heaven, watching his mother in hell : yknow what nvm you should suffer
@@bruvify8517 omg i hope that would happened
Piano notes: *adios*
Kousei: I wish I was as good as Rachminoff! *grows an extra finger*
"He didn't realize at that moment, but he unlocked WORD MAGIC!"
- An old experienced magician, probably
I am actually impressed that Natsuki Hanae could even go that high pitch in voice. Though his voice as a younger Kousei did sound a bit older than what he was supposed to be but I still love it.
I can’t stop hearing Tanjiro tho
0:33 これ、よく見たらぶたれる直前まで笑顔なんだよね…
やりきったと思ってたからこそ余計ショックであんなこと言っちゃったんだな
And I wonder why some people in the anime community as "defense" this mother because she was sick -___-
because while what she did does not have justification, she did everything out of love for her child, because she was afraid of what would happen to him in his future,so she did what she thought was best for him
type of bullshit she beat him with a fucking cane and made him bleed...what fucking justification is that
They use that same defense with Kaori.
That same defense is used for Kaori's abuse of Kousei.
Elina Carmina koari doesn’t abuse kousei why do u keep saying that yeah she might hit him but nothing serious all the “blood shed” coming from her or other characters is just for comedy’s sake. It’s not serious it’s over exaggerated which is why his “injuries” “heal” quickly. His mother’s abuse left bruises and scars for the sake of other noticing her abuse and gossiping about it obviously stating her abuse was serious. It didn’t only leave physical scars but mentally too. When it comes to abuse it’s not all about the physical things. His mother hit him and didn’t in the slightest show him love while his friend moved him with their words of worry and encouragement. My god it’s so obvious u don’t have to be smart to understand this.
"That was the last time I said anything to my mom"
- Arima Kousei
This scene breaks my heart.
Why
@@notknown-1908
Did you really just ask that?
You already failed as a mother when all you care about is if he can use his “talent” to support himself one day when you’re already out of time. You failed, utterly, when all you did was place a curse on him with the precious time that you had left when what he needed the most was the memory that he was loved.
His mother was a selfish asshole. I just finished watching this anime for the second time in my life. She did so many heartless and inhuman things to the child and he is just too special, loved her anyway.
Idk from experience I'd say it might be because mothers, even this one, shape the child in a good way as well. While they sometimes do horrible things, they might not always come from bad places. She wanted Kousei to have a good career as a pianist because it is hard to make a living as a pianist unless you're very good. People doing bad things don't always mean that they're bad people, and it's a peaceful thought that helps me through some traumatic experiences. Carrying hatred has done me and my mother more harm than necessary.
@@alexsupertramp5600 I wish you could heal from other sources not from: Evil people may be not that evil, they have their reasons. - Not a good source.
as a kousei stan and someone who tries my hardest to reach people’s expectations of me, you can tell this scene made me ugly cry
And then the anime makes slap stick humor to a guy who's been abused by his mother. Makes me pretty mad not gonna lie
Yet everyone LOVES Kaori and Tsubaki despite they're abuse on Kosei. Ugh! X(
Guys i want to ask a question.
I have seen this in most of animes(INCLUDING THIS ANIME) that AUDIENCE finds girls beating boys as funny and cute and praise the girl.
I KNOW THOSE ARE JOKES, I laugh on them too.
But would you guys still find this beating funny If genders are reversed.???
Because i have seen that then many people start hating the boy for abuse and violence towards a girl and did not take it as a joke.
I just cannot understand this double standards/reactions.,,
Feel free to correct me and sorry if i hurted you.👍
@@swaroop2518 The most recent ISEKAI’s like Konosuba and Cautious hero all reverse the guy hitting girl trope and people love it.
@@SomePkmnlovingdude friends kick each other in the shin sometimes, or do other things like that. stop whining over it
@@samsonstevens7181 friends don't push their buddies down to the ground and pummel them with kicks because they won't play piano for a girl who accused their friend of taking a panty shot and proceeded to beat on them. (Kousei wasn't allowed to say no to Kaori even though she falsely accused him and was literally choking him out. His friends beat him on the ground with their feet, stomping on him).
0:33 aw that smile baby kousei had 🥺
If I want my kid to be great, I should let him have fun with his friends. I should give him free will, let him choose his own dream and destiny. He doesn’t need to live up to my expectations or anyone else’s.
This is what perfectionism does to your family.
0:46 legend has it that the lady is still looking for a staff member
This scene made me cry, his mother is SO harsh and his is trying his best to make his mother happy so sad 😭
Kousei is a good kid, who wants to do his best to make his mom proud, but his mother is just too harsh and has too much of high expectations.
I cried at this scene more than the letter part because I kinda can relate to kousei. When I was a child, my mom had high expectations to my grades and I fulfilled her wish by bringing her all A's. She said that if I got good grades, I can get have a high salary work and she will be happy. I got all A until I was 8. I got a D in maths and my mom said I disappointed her. She was very stressed those days because my father can't work because he is very sick and she is pregnant with my sister. She talked like that out of stress. But I didn't know anything because I was 8. I tried really hard and didn't got good marks and my mom scold me with harsh words. So I just don't bother to get good grades anymore and I cry every night and whenever Im in the bathroom. My mom noticed and talked to me. Everything resolved and now I try to get good grades now
DISCLAIMER :MY MOM IS NOT ABUSIVE. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SCOLD ME TOO.
when you said your mom was pregnant at that time, I understood it all. Most of the pregnant women tend to be easily agitated, so yeah.. that's how it is.
2:04 at that moment she knew
She fucked up.
Ink Spill she smile after that.
Ink Spill smile of what????
Nice meme, and in context too. Saki's expectations were too high for Kosei.
How tragic. It was from this moment that Kousei had to endure depression for a long time...
I don't believe that the anime justifies Suki's actions at the end, but instead represents Kousei's release from his mother's abuse and expectations. Also his realization that he is not at fault for her declining health or her death. Kaori's death was such a phenomenal stepping stone for him because he felt the same way until he realized that music is essentially what connects them and that's why he has to play, so that he won't forget.
looks like she just tasted her own medicine
Terrible as it is: Props to this kid. Not many have the courage to act much less speak against their parent(s). 🙏🏾 It’s a terrible emotional curse/shackle that we’re all bound to by birth; breakable but suffocating. 😔
I feel this kid, my mom used to beat me up every single day for not doing good in school. It was very difficult for me since I had ADHD but parents never cared instead I got scars on my back and hands .
I FELT ODDLY SATISFIED WHEN HE SAID THAT...... I DUNNO WHY...BUT STILL ITS A TRAGIC MOMENT...
This scene is even more shocking than Asuka's Breakdown
Well Asuka was a little girl when she saw mom's body hanging.
"why do my kids never visit?
To me, one of the best scenes of the anime :)
fel x2
If just he would do the same to the cancerous violinist bitch
@@terrorcineable lmao
The World (ZA WARUDO) wtf?
@@terrorcineable da fuck
Yeah, I had been thinking that kosei shoud do that while watching his mather's abuse...
I think it would be more interesting if he grew up to be cold and like not talk to anyone but kaori made him open up slowly
it would be too similar to Koe na Katachi
So you like the cliches..
But this is released before koe no katachi
@@swaroop2518bro get over it you keep commenting this
車椅子押してる人松葉杖止めろよ笑笑
We know the mother loves him already, but how can she live with herself seeing her own son having to hide his arms because of how bruised and beaten she's made it? It sucks that she never had a chance to redeem herself or for Kousei to get his mother back.
0:45 props to the girl who did something at least
It was a heat of the moment thing but for crying out of loud, what else did you expect lady. You are beating your child infront of everybody, you are screaming at him and abusing him, what else he has to say to you. His last memory of you, is his mother abusing him for the hard work which he tried to do.
He just wants to make her happy, to make her proud. And this is what he deserve? The people are right, she is a monter! Only real anime lovers cried!❤️
His mother was a horrible, horrible person. She repented only after her son lashed out after him undergoing abuse from her.
I dont think she repented, which haunts Kousei as he grew up.
This is the story of how Eren came to hate titans ;)
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After all that abuse, and all those insults, I dont blame Kousei for saying what he did. Anyone would
While it's true she wanted to grant his own future this is going too far, to beat your child until he bleeds after he took the FIRST Damn place in the competition is ridiculous. he was also wrong by saying he wish his mother would die
Boohoo she was a major bitch anyone who abuses a defenseless child deserves to die فراس هاشم
@ʏᴜsᴀ if it's not abuse, what is it to you then?
If I were him, I would've said the same and won't regret it even for a bit.
@@elfryeorin tbh i feel the same way the kid is literally 8 years old in that scene correct? like how u gone do that ? the child even had a mindset about wanting to make his mother happy instead he gets a mom abusing the shit out of him for mistakes like that like dam
@ʏᴜsᴀ A the bitch hit him with that cane shit and he bled. If it ain't abuse then what the fuck is it ma'am
Sometimes you have to choose be a genius or happy
I resonate a lot with Kousei. Only physically disciplined, but verbally abused all the time throughout my childhood. Even now, although my relationship with my mother has improved a lot, since I moved out. It's really a shame that parents like this have turned out like that, but it's a result of their own upbringing and experiences. Best we can do is to learn from it, and make sure to do better, when it comes to our own future children.
I always wanted every parent to see this how you shouldn’t do that to your own child.
One thing that I learned from this scene was Kousei's mom f***ed up a real big time...
This is what the reality is,she did those things to grow him,so that he can live without her and earn by himself,this is the reason he was known as the child prodigy,and if the boy himself loves his mum so much than why should we hate her? We never saw how much she suffered beating him,they never showed us much,the boy when he realised why his mother did all that was happy,that his mother truly cared about him
@@Raghav-nr5el yeah by beating him up with a stick in public
@@Raghav-nr5el Doesn't matter if she did care or not, the old hag couldn't even think properly on how to prepare her kid.
Thank god her sickness put her down like the bitch she was.
Sadness's older sibling: Anger.
I was crying so hard at that scene
Even if he is a genius that excels higher than anyone else, you gotta remember his limitations as a kid, he needs to have fun, you can’t expect him to pay as good as professional adults unless he literally plays the piano 24/7.
This is the first anime that ever made me tear up, and it was this scene that made it happen. I never thought I ever related to an anime character as much as Kousei, this scene was basically Me and my Dad.
I wanna give little Arima my glasses.
Her son got beaten up to the pulp everyday for making a minor mistake yet still smiling hoping his piano play will cure his mom
Imagine how shocked deep down for kousei's mom when he finally snapped and told her to just die, his mom had a good intention but she forced him too hard
Bish this is soo real to me.. becauseasian parents/moms will literally get mad at you for making a snakl mistake in a live performance..
"You practiced hours and hours and you'll make tht SMALL mistake!?!"
Its real
Bc i have friends like tht.
Same, my mom called me a disappointment.
My mom did that when I messed up in a violin recital. She compared me to my younger brother, and he messed up as well. He was her "golden child" though, so it didn't matter to her.
Oh my gosh, the grayscale Effect too; she’s a demon
How cruel parents are when they want to realize themselves in their children's 😢💔🖤💙
And some say anime r for children . They r just cartoons. What emotions can they have.... Just watch this anime.. The depth of human emotions can be seen here. Though emotional but the ending was good. He ended up with a good girl.
As a youtuber i love said, your intentions doesnt change the final result. Yes, you wanted your son to be strong and to be a good pianist, giving him the only proly talent you could gave him, but that doesnt mean you didnt hit him and push him to the point he hated and wished you were dead. That doesnt erase his bad memories from childhood, or his afternoons without Tsubaki and Watari. That also, doesnt erase his musical ability. You can hate his mom or love her, you can forgive her or trash her, but for me... there´s no way you can say she didnt do anything wrong, because beating your own child IS a horrible mistake. The anime helps you to understand her view, but it doesnt mean they are justifying her.
This hit hard for me than the death of kaori, this scene resonated to me because, this is exactly what happen in my life, the difference is that it isn't about the piano, it's about my grades in school, the truth is I'm not an intelligent person, but I tried so hard to prove that i can reached higher grades, to get higher honors this includes doing some shady stuff such as cheating, initiating a massive silent cooperation, connection to intelligent students, infiltrating teachers office and many more, i did it because I wanted to proveto her that i am that kid, unfortunately throughout the duration of my school, I could only get at top 5 to 3 honor, those honors are nothing compared to being the top 1, but there was one moment where I was no honor at all, a failure as many may call it. And then this exact scene of this anime happen to me in real life, I was at grade 8 at that time, I failed mathematics, it was at home and then she throw the report card and bag at me and remove all notebooks. And then the exact dialogue was shared to each other, the only difference with our dialogue is that i didn't say i wanted her to die, i cried, she never see me cry, the only time she see me cry was probably when i was just a kid. I hide my emotions and feelings throughout my life because of a belief that no one would actually care, especially if boys cried, but when i was on my breaking point. I lash out like a crazy motherfucker who have lost all manners. And then just turns away as if I were a some kind of born out villain out of nowhere.
I don't get where people get "she's still a good mom because she got him into piano and still cares about him". I don't care, if you beat your child who loves you into hating you, you are a terrible parent.
*claps* Awesome job, Saki
Man, the dark side of classical music
泣ける
Kid or not,That "child and parent" love is extremely fragile and once it breaks,once the kid snaps NO matter how many apologies and excuses there's no going back or even hope of repairing it,That kind of relationship and bond is very strong but if it's broken you know said person,most of the time the parents REALLY messed up.
It doesn't matter what your beliefs are or what you think,There are no excuses for this kind of treatment especially from the stronger bond between the parents to the child who is the mother.
A child deserves a parent but not all parent deserve a child
Bruh, the fact that people in the comments section felt bad for the mother. Did we watch the same video?????
Switch Kousei's mother with a MMA fighter and we have Ayanokoji piano lessons
We have to protect this innocent little boy with all we got no matter what :(
it fills my eyes with tears whenever i watch this masterpiece....💔
i aint even kidding this scene had me fucking sobbing for like an hour straight and it still makes me tear up every time i remember it
心が痛む😱
How to Have a Prodigy Pianist Child Safely:
Expose them to this anime at a young age, They’ll want to do it
every child deserves a parent
but not every parent deserves a child
But She is right, every pianist should follow every note to get score.
@@Spectra12 no adult should beat up a child, hope that helps 👍
@@Spectra12 still doesn't justify to abuse your own child till his hand bruise
That little, wholesome, innocent and loving smile he has before starting to get beat is heartbreaking... after that, his face is just the most horrible combination I have ever felt: grief, extreme sadness, anger, and so much despair. My father isn’t exactly an abuser... but his treatment towards me has always been deplorable. Questioning and judging every single inch of my being. And then, some time ago, he said he was going to adopt a homeless kid in the hopes he “came out right.” ...yeah...
Who else started crying when she got him? I did.
This scene gets me everytime
The sad thing about being abused from a young age, you start to accept that as your reality.
Being abused for a long time from your earliest memories means your outlook on the world and your situation is vastly warped. You believe that your situation is okay because it’s “normal” for you. It takes something, some outside force, to remove those lenses on the world and show you that what happened wasn’t okay.
My own experience being that I was once beaten black and blue, to the point of bleeding, on the backs of my thighs and I thought that whatever happened, I forget why I was punished, was bad enough for me to deserve the punishment.
It took years until I went to a therapist at 19, for her to look at me and say “that wasn’t okay.” For my entire reality to shift ever so slightly for things to be clear.
I realized that everything I’d ever known, the hitting, the throwing, the slapping, all of that wasn’t normal and wasn’t okay.
I would watch those “stop child abuse” ad campaigns and completely ignore them or brush them off because “my dad doesn’t put cigarettes out on me, and my mom doesn’t drink until she’s passed out on the couch, I’m not being abused.”
Abuse comes in all shapes and forms and isn’t always physical.
Mother: *beats child*
Also mother: "How could he say such cruel words?"
I'm surprised she was able to hit him so accurately with no eyes.
I was in school when watching this episode, and i just started fucking bawling
This anime is amazing
Forcing your child to live your dream of greatness will always make them have great resentment towards you
I can relate to an extent of what Arima is going through. Although my mom is not the abusive one, my dad sure as hell is
Im new to this anime and i already crying lmao
Maybe the reason the eyes aren’t drawn is because,aren’t eyes the window of the soul? The boy didn’t like his mom and maybe didn’t imagine her having eyes because in his mind she was a monster?
WHY DIDNT THE LADY JUST PULL THE WHEELCHAIR BACK?
It's funny when I watched this I didnt exoect this series to even have this scene. Kinda why I loved the piani again. This series made me realize soemthing bout myself in the world's harshest and most beautiful ways
i didnt get a single tear when kaori died but the story with his mother and him made me cry more than twice and more... i hated his mom really at the beginning but after finishing this anime i couldnt hate her anymore even when arima is my favorite of all times i just cant hate her i dont know why but im ok with that because it was actually so sad that his mom got so mentally ill that she didnt realise what she did to arima in that case she suffered even more than arima with all the punches he got and that is a important part too!
So crying 😢
I'm having some feels right now after a talk with my sister. This video reminds me of me and her in my mind.
Seeing this part made feel bad for both of them but somewhere in me I found satisfaction too