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I mean if the soldier didn’t have the arm strength of a fuckin 13 year old the game would be amazing
I laughed at this! LOL
It's almost like the developers have never used a firearm
@@700lbs_ripped seems to be a common theme with devs these days😂
Game would be great if my mic would actually work
Have you ever looked down a prism optic?
Definitely made me use red dot more. I think the recoil seems more apparent because you were using the ACOG. Right now the recoil seems the same wether if it’s CCO or ACOG
Yeah! I was trying to practice with some red dot sights! Will take some getting used to!
Only compliant is that it's hard to see enemies if you use red dot only
The recoil should be the same...
@@K3ntucky123thats the point. Its a trade off. This aint rainbow six siege
@@ngonzales3781 I know it’s the same, I’m just saying it seems more apparent because you’re looking through the zoomed lens of the acog.
A Girl Scout could hold a gun steadier than the infantry in Squad
You never shot a gun and it shows 😂
Don't forget that you're in a warzone and you could die at any moment
every like here and the comment comes from people that know nothing about it. i wanna see you guys with a heavy rifle walking around or just standing on a spot and hold the cross on target for just 3 sec with like 2 or 3x haha u guys know that even a lil bit of movement is like a few metres distance while looking through the scope?!
bet most people would have problems with holding an iron sight pointed on a can 10 metres away.
@jondoe1711 that's exactly what I've been saying, the recoil is realistic for magnified optics
@@ST4X-0N-ST4X its wild nowadays. everyone has an opinion and doesnt even make the work to get any information on the topic. meanwhile they are writing the comments with a device that could give them these informations in a sec... this society is going to fall... but thats not the topic here xD
edit: and on top they act like they know it right. lel
Picture in Picture scopes is when just the scope is a magnifying image and the area around stays the same. Typically in an fps, when you zoom in, your entire screen zooms in to the magnification of the scope, and the scope just acts as a reticle.
I hope they give the option to toggle like Insurgency Sandstorm. IIRC, PiP is much more demanding on performance than the classic zoom.
I feel like they are going to transition to full on PiP. Hopefully optimization can get there!
@@Elkybamyou are correct, it will be a lot more taxing. The game essentially has to render two different frames and display them on top of each other, so it’s almost twice as demanding
@Elkybam I see where you're coming from, I would argue, though. It would create advantages/disadvantages in a game that takes balancing very seriously. The best we can hope for is either great deals on graphics cards or better optimization. I like how they're taking their time and listening to feedback to get everything right. Playtest 4 was really good, IMO.
Also, I love Sandstorm, but it's fun in its own different kind of way. ✌🏻
Yea games like Ground Branch and Escape From Tarkov currently use PIP for magnified scopes. And there is a noticeable performance decrease when you are ADS vs not
Man the 50 yr old father of 5s that sit in a bush all game are gonna love this update
Just people that don't have rotten brain from tiktok and attention span longer than 2,7 seconds will love this update.
@@wideokompakt7067😐
@@wideokompakt7067 black people with stockless dracos are going to feel right at home with how these guns feel
@@wideokompakt7067 Squad already excluded that crowd by default because you get kicked if you solo. Tiktok kids don't listen to commands and waste team assets for the lols.
The game isn’t meant to be fast paced…
10 months later, the community is still very much divided
yeah they moved now to warzone
@@tzindombre8640 they moved to modded servers which are now plenty so in a way thank you devs for awaking people up
@@stavros6969 oh no 1000 people are playing in modded servers its over !
@@tzindombre8640 ok boomer, please keep yourself into the vanilla shite so modded servers arent clogged with your egregious taste
@@stavros6969which mod is it? the continental *something* mod servers?
its more teamwork coordinated and iron sights are actually good now
But it's have nothing common with real guns ak-74 have A WAY Less recoil IRL
@@boomheadshot938 It's a gameplay decision. not a realism decision.
@@hallojutuhb9071 it's a clown decision
@@boomheadshot938 get gud!
@@hallojutuhb9071 its really bad. balancing for the sake of balancing is not fun
100% made me use the red dots more. This has made the rds much more useful.
Yeaaah! Although, IDK what to use since trying the third playtest lol.. It's rought out there.
Overall it’s good. They went a *little* overboard with some of the wobble, I think it should really have to do with your stamina, but overall great and this will hopefully slow down and intensify the fights.
I think it will do just that! It's really possible it'll change a lot of how games operate in certain ways.
It is based on stamina and now with stabilization there are 2 white square dots on your compas when they come together you are at ypur highest stability that happens quicker when you have more stamina
As someone in the army. It can be pretty damn accurate to how annoying it is to run around and get the correct sight picture, when you’re exhausted the kick throws you off just enough.
@@cucadefrijoles735 see this guy gets it
Nah the stamina shouldn't matter as much either, even if I was gassed and just done running it doesn't make me hold a gun like it's having its own earthquake
Yeah this system would have hit if my character could shoot a fucking 5.56 battle rifle without breaking both arms and pissing himself
actual skill issue
Skill issue.
skill issue. there are no battle rifles in 5.56 in this game by the way.
You guys are hilarious, cause no one has actually offered a counter argument. The current weapon handling and recoil system makes shooting in a close range engagement genuinely more challenging than shooting irl out to 150yd. Hell, I can control my weighted sim weapons in airsoft better than my supposedly trained character. It's a bad system, and you all like it cause it brings people who are good at shooters down to your level.
@@NapalmNarcissus You're basically saying that this game is all about aim, and that this update flattens the curve, when these changes actually punish players who put themselves in bad situations (no stamina, on the move) and requires way more skill to be good at than before.
They really need to fix their “overhaul”. The gun handling mechanics in this “overhaul” is absolutely horrendous. It’s almost unplayable.
At first I was pissed and hated it. Now I love it. It just needs some tweaks, specifically recoil which was already super unrealistic with some guns, it needs towed down a bit, weapon sway need to be less. but it definitely brings some realismish, and slows things down and forces tactics and teamwork
I agree!
As someone in the army. It can be pretty damn accurate to how annoying it is to run around and get the correct sight picture, when you’re exhausted the kick throws you off just enough.
Wild, thanks for the short and to the point video
Thanks for watching!
I hope there isnt much of a performance drop. I often run at 60 fps but some maps and situations, it can drop down to 20
its actually more stable surprisingly comes out tomorrow cant wait
@@sleepy.trader I hope that's true! Super excited as well!
The thing that I hate with the ads on the taliban marksman is that it takes to long to aim and u can’t see shit for 10 seconds and when u start to see something u are already dead
LOL they can't bring normal optimization for years, and now they adding PIP system that always brings much more troubles with optimization, squad gonna just die after that
10 months later the game is still flourishing
The hard part about marksmanship isn't putting your sights on the target, it's not fucking up the trigger pull...
When it comes to recoil management, you treat it like a fire hose.
Burst firing DOES NOT help manage recoil, it is just a messy version of semi auto.
The purpose of burst fire is economic fire superiority. Not accuracy.
If you want to be accurate at full auto, you need to lean into the recoil and walk the stream of bullets on target.
This is NOT how you manage recoil is semi-automatic. Leaning into the recoil will lead to you shooting low.
Mag dumping 30 rounds is not alot of time to walk your gun onto a target, which is why you're encouraged to actually aim your shots.
But there is a goldilocks zone, where you are close enough to point fire your gun without aiming down sights. It is in these CQC scenarios where full auto is absolutely necessary, because unlike in movies and video games: humans don't "die" when you shoot them: they start dieing.
these guns all have super exaggerated recoil
Every single gun has the recoil of a fuckin auto cannon in the game lol, I don't mind the mechanics and they are fairly manageable but it's too much
@@locomoko3322you've never shot 5.56 with an optic but claim to know realism? Hilarious
I use to hate the update, but once I learned when to use what I actually like the situation you have to be put in. I use red dot for short to mid and acog for mid to long
I started playing this game a little more than a year ago and have already played a bit more than 700 hours. For me Squad used to be a unique game that had taken a tactical component from such games as ARMA, dynamic gameplay and skill dependence from the games like Battlefield and CoD. It was a kind of golden mean. To play and win, you had to shoot well, use your brain (tactics) and necessarily communicate with your teammates. I started investing my time in training my aim, other skills and learning the basics of other game roles. After that, I joined a competitive clan in order to try my hand at competitive Squad and further explore the tactical side of the game. Communication in competitive Squad is much better than on public servers with random people (this is quite rare there). Being a part of a competitive Squad team, I was able to feel perfect symbiosis of tactics and shooting (just to remind, Squad is a SHOOTER). It’s a pity that many people don’t like and don’t understand this. Yesterday, you pushed an update that destroys shooting gameplay completely, making it totally non-skill-dependent (it used to be something special in this game; this was the thing which made Squad unique). Now ARMA side of the game gains the upper hand. People sit in the bushes because otherwise they won’t be able to hit anyone. People lie down in the middle of the road in order to try to shoot in some way, but they don’t succeed either. It is unlikely that updates of this kind will improve communication. If previously a teammate ran far away from his squad, now, on the contrary, he will simply stay at one place alone. And nothing will change. You destroyed the shooting and turned Squad into a slow, tunnel simulator of sitting in the bushes with a hard 10-second blur due to bullets and shells flying nearby. You killed a game that many loved for its uniqueness. RIP SQUAD 27.09.23 #RevertTheGame
Just another guy with a skill issue I see. Also, competitive squad lmao.
@@wideokompakt7067you pro ico guys say the same thing but we still out shoot you. Comp players are the core player base.
@@A-aron89 Comp players in Squad bro 😂😂😂
Run in the map with no fear and shoot with your mouse, is not skill
go back to licking windows@@wideokompakt7067
Arma players love it
Not that much actually
Not at all
this update made the game soooo much better. I know squad has never tried to cater to the milsim market but this update made real world tactics actually usable which is a great step in that direction
Solid point.
Squad has always catered to the Milsim market, it’s literally a Milsim.
Most of reticles are literally dog shit cause they are blurry or too fine and make them useless so you just spam shots. The BDC becomes useless for long range shots. They also need to make the window large when you ads
they should just add the two squares you get a the middle bottom of your screen in project reality its not that hard to make that change
Had my first go with the update with some friends, gotta say the pacing is a lot better, people are communicating more, the games don’t feel like they take forever or are just stomping feats the whole time
The update that made modded servers the only way to play the game
Suppression don't work..so many players...to a clean countershot. Has bulletz hail fly to them... Maybe they found a way to shut off the supress effect!
This is going to make squad into a prone camping sim at best and kill the community in a month at worst
8 months later and I echo the statements of this comment section, I was really excited for this update but my USSF soldier cant run 10ft without his arms turning into noodles.
It feels like my character has chronic diabetes and has endless shakes because of it what kinda soldiers do they think we’re sending in one that can’t even hold up a gun straight laying on the ground the only way of getting a stable gun is a mounted one or a bipod on the marksman or the lmg no wonder why everyone hates the snipers because they the only ones that aren’t diabetics in the game
To be honest the real military crutch acog or typical 3x 4x magnification over red dots
they cut the stocks off of the guns
Even before ICO gun play felt like that.
Tbh, they need to nerf the weapon swaying while ads because it's not because it's annoying, but it gives me the motion sickness
Volume of fire, speed of action, and commination.
ADS is the main reason I don't like playing squad. Every time I ADS my frames tank, the scope is flying all over my screen for 30 seconds while my frames try to catch up, and then by the time it settles, I'm focused in and I can finally actually see, I've already been shot dead. I dunno, ADS shouldn't be hard imo but it literally makes the game nearly unplayable for me
Picture in picture is the way forward. I hope the next battlefield includes it, it's about time really. Makes no sense that when you aim down sight your periphery also zooms in.
It makes even less sense for your peripheral vision to be blurred and obscured.
It has definitely forced me to use red dots and iron sights more, which I appreciate. I used to use acogs without even having to think about it.
Which is just painfully unrealistic as the acog is objectively the best combat optic ever made.
og squad shooting is pubg shooting
bro I can't
The gunplay in project reality is top notch if its based on that then amazing
It's not. Its pretty arcade, but not in a good way. It's more punishing than what PR ever was. This shit isn't even realistic. These weapons don't recoil as hard as they depict here. Additionally, I don't know of anyone who sways as much as these dudes when it comes to aiming down their sights unless they have
no clue how to shoot.
I love the update. This game finally feels likes a tactics and strategy game set in the first person.
Update is great. The pistol is actually useful now
I think the recoil is fine the vehicle movement needs work tho
I haven’t played Squad but as an ex-soldier I wonder if the red dot scope can be used as without blur because the point of using it is not to always scope through it but have it in eyesight with both eyes open so you see the red dot but also you see everything normally?
When game devs never shoot they didnt even hold weapon in hands and try to make „realistic” improvments so this is what happend, from trained soldier we went to 5yo kid holding weapon. I have acog scope to my hunting rifle and its not even close how and what you see though scopes like this + even i (not trained soldier) can aim shoot with more accuracy than what we have in game now
It is looking good but my main criticism so far has been the optics just are too small on the screen, they take up little space and you feel like your eye is 30cm from the optic. I own an ACOG and a couple other optics in this game and when using them it does not look or feel as far away as it is depicted in-game. Also they need to come up with a semi-transparent unzoomed background when using the Russki optics that have the rubber eye relief cushion. I can still use both eyes open on the PSO scopes. If the game is going to go this hardcore with realism of real objects in the game, they need to nail it.
What I don’t like is that scopes blur between shots, and have blurry peripherals with awkwardly long ads times.
Red dots have an advantage in cqb for easy scanning and target acquisition as is. I think they went a little too harsh on optics as they’re sort of useless within that awkward range where it’s too far for point blank, but too close to have time to ads.
Just my opinion though. I love the changes more than not. It makes the game interesting and fun again. Combat is boring and a terminator simulator without the changes.
I think it's going to be a really interesting change. May won't like it but I think a lot of folks will enjoy it once getting used to it. It's going to add a new layer to things and make attacking a totally different monster. Defense is getting buffed so much in recent updates, it's going to be a whollleee time taking over guarded points.
@@Slay3Kilo Yeah. My overall takeaway is that pt1 was too far in the other direction and infantry assaults were impossible.
Pt2 seemed to be an okay balance. Firefights lasting longer makes the games way more fun and memorable since it forces teamwork and communication, and above all thinking. I love when games make me think.
Everyone can at least agree the suppression changes are awesome. Pt1’s weapon handling was too floaty as Karmakut put it, and it turned modern gun fighting into something akin to the napoleonic wars with how long you had to stand still after moving to get a half decent shot off (okay I’m exaggerating a little here lol), additionally recoil was too much.
using lmgs is kinda hard when firing cuz of the blur when shooting even if your mounted
Short bursts is recommended, even for real machine gunners and automatic riflemen. 5-7 round bursts
@@odinharou7112 even short bursts are hard to see threw the blur should of just made it after you start doing non stop full auto on the lmg but it's still kinda pointless
"If you're like me I often always go for..."
So I just started playing squad yesterday and literally have only played 1 full match and I call BS on the weapon recoil when firing. Shooting a M4 shouldn’t have the recoil of a damn 50 cal. I honestly think the devs have never fired a weapon before
Play modded servers. Steel division has the old gunplay which makes the experience 100x better
The devs are canadian, so, yeah, they are firearm illiterate.
@@badbaba9002 I started playing in the GE servers and love it
also it feels like your man never have hold a gun before
Sight vs. no sight will be determined, i think by that blurr
As long as it don't change galactic convention I'm alright with it...
More updates u make longer gc takes
I really hope they smooth out the gunplay it just feels so fake and jerky is the best way I can describe it
I'm sure it'll improve over time.
Good, maybe make it so that i dont have to sit still for 10 seconds in order to aim straight
Yup current looks good 👍
As a guy who used a giggle switch I can say this game has too much fucking recoil.
The current one is better. The weapons were way squirrelier before the current setup and it sucked so I’d hope they don’t go back to that
You all are forgetting that they fixed the noodle arm issue and its a lot more stable then it was before
No, it isnt fixed, its still trash.
@@ProfessorOfLogicAtUnvOfScience bruv it’s a lot more realistic then before
@@mrtraci5450 no it isnt. Are you basing this upon your wealth of combat experience?
Dude, I'm confused, what should I choose, Arma 3 or Squad? I want your point of view
I prefer Squad for various reasons... It aligns more closely with stuff I've played in the past (Old Battlefield) -- I enjoy the teamwork there, whereas I often felt a little lost in Arma. I like Arma, but it didn't click as quickly for me as Squad did. Very different games though.
when is this due to release? Very excited to come back to squad!
They haven't said yet!
Looks much better! Great video, was a pleasure to watch! And I'm thinking people will opt for a red dot alot more since the new recoil pattern might piss people that are used to a run and gun sorta play style off, and so red dots will be simpler and more accessible for players that aren't patient enough to wait for the scope image to settle.
Thank you! I agree, it'll be interesting to see the difference in what people run with and how things operate after this is launch!
It will!
if the devs would add some coop missions (not just a simple bot mod) i would play this game instead of arma, they can add a huge player base to squad, the mechanics are amazing i just don’t like pvp
the playtest felt like what SQUAD should have been.
Played it last night and everyone was bitching about it, but I personally love it and think it’s way more realistic than having nearly everyone running an ACOG and being pinpoint accurate on full auto from 80-150 yards
that recoil is the most unrealistic ive every seen
that is a lot better and kinda looks like six days in fallujah. but when is it coming out
No word on when it releases yet
Plays like 6 days mu dude lol
Red dots are good but iron sights are unusable since the update
I’ve always been more of an iron sights man myself
dont know how the game worked before but currently every gun is unusable. the gun kick is way too high and auto fire is obsolete, as a former military i can tell that weapons in real life fire much more accurately than this game. still all the gun issues aside the atmosphere is super realistic and palyer base is really funny, had tons of fun only playing for a few days yet.
yeah nah guns really have like no recoil irl if u use them correctly these devs need to shoot sum actual guns
Why is the acog reticle so small? Its not like that in irl
It is. You obviously never touched a real trijicon acog before 😂
This is a much needed update recently from playing a few people are playing this game like it’s COD and it ruins to real meaning of a game that’s meant to be played smart with good teamwork not just running and gunning
It would be great if the devs improved weapon recoil from advice from real soldiers
As someone in the army. It can be pretty damn accurate to how annoying it is to run around and get the correct sight picture, when you’re exhausted the kick throws you off just enough.
Mane I still can’t get squad to work
How about finger movement?when adjusting scope,finger should be roll together with and make perfect aiming set.
Some of this has to be project reality
All this update did was change the animations slightly and make the gun play worse by slowing down the game every gun fight now just feels more like luck than skill unless im sitting in a bush doing nothing for 15 minutes
Why dont they just make the graphics better
How are you meant to use iron sites if your whole screen goes blurry the second someone fires in your direction? (Same goes for red dot sights)
If this was in UE5 I whould play it
i like it but why are the russian weapons FOV on scopes stupidly high makes it near on impossible to see anyone, the acog on the usa weapons is like a sniper scope
the devs have never seen any a gun in real life.
Looking down an acog doesnt look like that
When I look in a scope in rl, I don't see blear
I’ve been a dumbass using scoped ARs and after reading the comments I’m gonna try a red dot and see what happen
Im looking to try the game, hows the recoil of the weapons in this game, do they just spray the sht out of you from hundred meters away or do they just tap?
i dont like the aiming system it feels so damn uncontrollable even when you have full stamina and laying down it will make for better gameplay but for gunplay its an L
all guns have exaggerated recoil and no stock
If you thinks this made the game better you are high as hell
My first game back I team killed a whole squad. Their names didn’t pop up so I opened fire. Wish there were a setting to keep them on permanently so my stupid self can tell
Camos
Old squad was WAYYYYYY better
im so comfy with my not-great PC since i know i wont be having enough FPS to use those scopes anyways )))
I LIKE CURRENT MORE
Good thing is the ICO made all the kids go back to COD lol cant handle not being able to slide cancel 😂😂
Nah, they just use full auto hip fire instead of aiming.
Thank God the Debs are introducing this mechanic into the game
all guns have exaggerated recoil and no stock
It sucks now
Never seen a company purposefully wreck their own game 7+ years into release. Impressive.
Seems to be okay so far.
It was already in a downward spiral but this is a redemption to it
Arma players love it
@@GiJoe94I'm an Arma player, and this feels like trash in Squad now.
Speak for yourself, the game feels realistic and amazing.
"Often always..." that's nonsense.
The blurred and obscured surroundings while scoped makes zero sense. Have squad devs ever looked through a scoped rifle??? What is 2 eye shooting and why is it the standard for any professional military??? This update was a complete and total failure.
Your character acts like he's never used a rifle now. It sucks.
It'll just increase the amount of campers in the game