Harley Davidson is two decades behind the manufacturing quality, riding dynamics, fit and finish and reliability of Triumph. So it's not a fair comparison really.
More refinement, better handling, higher performance at lower price ! But Rocket 3 is not for those who consider that a silky smooth and refined Motorcycle doesn’t really ‘connect’ with the rider as much as a twin-cylinder Air-cooled Motorcycle that vibrates like hell, sounds ultra-loud with ancient technology !
@@whipstitchwebwork1383 Looks are always subjective, so I wont argue with you. "Too much tech, sounds like a scooter and rides retarded?" Nothing is more retarded than the Harley comparison to any super cruiser. The Harley has forward foot controls and most super cruisers have mid. Why do you think that is?? Suspension? Do some reading on this Harley and you will see how much it really sux. Even in this video they talk about how bad it is. The R3 will also outperform the Harley in every test. Back to the looks thing... The Harley is beautiful?? You see the bike in person? I have and the intake is comically stupid. Its a big old box of plastic that says 114 on it - THATS ugly AND cheap! The power output is also comical on the Harley... You can keep it :)
@@whipstitchwebwork1383 lol! spoken only like someone desperate to want an HD to be better than they really are. If you can get over the HD desperation, it is absolutely no contest... the Rocket outperforms and oozes beauty and class over this FXDR abomination
Was a very easy choice - that's why I bought the Rocket. For the guy below that hates rider modes - you can turn it all of on the Rocket - better to have extras and not use them....
Problem is...you can't turn off ugly. That harley is gorgeous. That rocket is not a good looking bike at all. I can't even explain what makes it look like shit, but most people wouldn't look at it twice.
Whipstitch webwork I would. The Harley just looks like a slightly strangely modernised 50’s Harley. And half the appeal of a Harley is they look like Harleys. That one just looks strange. The Triumph looks like a brute.
Right...better to have useless digital gadgets than a comfortable, powerful motorcycle with a V twin. The rocket is plain ugly and looks like a hipster, poser machine. I'll keep my HDs any day...they're simply a much better, more reliable motorcycle.
As a Harley guy, I was looking forward to riding the FXDR 114 because I heard a lot of hooplas about it; I wasn't impressed with it at all, I was disappointed with it actually. I did try out the Triumph Rocket 3 and was very impressed with the power that it had. I just wish they had more dealerships that sold Triumph.
I also hated the FXDR. The 114 Fat Bob handles better and is waaay comfier. Perfomance wise, its not going to compete with the Rocket 3 but it still has plenty.
This is like comparing fine dining with a can of beans. Seriously, who would compare these two. I don't even dislike Harley but they're clearly not even in the same league.
I have a 2013 Triumph Thunderbird Storm. Triumph lists it at 97hp and 115 lb-ft of torque, stock. It has almost identical hp numbers as the FXDR and only 4 lb-ft of torque less. The T-bird has a 104 cu inch engine, or 1699cc. Ten cubic inches less than the HD, and about $5000 cheaper. I got Triumph's shorty pipes installed when I bought it, and the dealership also removed the catalytic converter. I did the air box removal kit from British Customs and installed a Power Commander V, along with getting it dyno tuned. It now puts 118 lb-ft of torque and 105 hp to the real wheel. Exhaust, new air box, PCV, and tune were about $1500. HD cant touch that performance for that price.
James Taylor but here’s the thing... I can go to any H-D dealer or small shop and install a bigger engine kit. The M8 engines are seeing up to 200hp in the right hands.
@@2004sadmanco I used to ride with a guy who had put something like $6,000 into the engine of his 1200 Sportster, and my almost stock VTX1800 whooped that thing's a*s every time, and in every way, even when I was loaded two-up and he was riding solo. All I did to my X was put a Cobra full system on it, install a K&N air filter, install a Power Commander with a custom tune, and beef up the clutch springs. All of which I did for less than $1,500, if I remember correctly...
dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm then you can stream all the new series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my girlfriend recently xD
I’m looking forward to the aftermarket cans to appear for the Rocket 3 🤩 Even with the extra cost of new pipes, it’s still far better value for money and pretty much the ultimate bike IMO
@@visordown Unfortunatley (i've heard) Arrow won't be making those pipes as they were intended exclusively for the TFC. I'm sure Zard and/or others will make tasty sounding mufflers before long. Oh, and the one and only reason i'd pick the/any H-D over the Triumph is the ridiculous resale value due to the over hype that just won't die it seems :)
@@Larry_Mott Either one will be half price in 4 years. And the market is saturated right now as old baby boomers are starting to sell off their baggers. Now is a great time to buy 'pre-owned' HD, but I still want the Rocket 3, because it just does everything better. HD's are intentionally designed to require way too many expensive 'upgrades' to obtain their potential. It's all included when you buy the Rocket. And I may be wrong, but I bet the Arrow exhaust as well as some of the carbon bits will be available later on (after all the TFC's are sold and gone).
Blair Taylor Good point about half price in 4 years... 2016 RIII is actually approx. half price and defo not half the bike (sounds louder/better and longer range helps compensate for concrete block handling, maybe?)
This was over before it started. HD hoping name will sell......Triumph building a bike WORTH buying. Looks are purely a subjective thing. The Harely looks like it's made out of legos. Performance and options wise.......it's ZERO contest. If you don't like all the "nanny" controls....turn them off. Using those as a reason to not buy a bike that is the same price as a bike without any of those options.....ridiculous. Let's count all the new and exciting things about the Harley (cricket......cricket). Let me please pay top dollar for that cutting edge (old and tired) air cooled V-twin tech.
@@dereklindberg6704 Youre wrong. Thats EXACTLY why people buy them. People want speed and comfortability of a cruiser. The Harley has forward foot controls and almost every other cruiser has mid foot controls. Why do you think that is?
It would have been better to put the 117 cubic inch version of the HD, into the fight. But it would still lose against this Triumph. In-fact every muscle bike will lose against this awesome Triumph. It is the king of the hill. Massive power and it's not even ugly. GT or GTC.
I like what you said about the Harley being “theater”, because that rumble and feel is not to be diminished when riding a feet forward cruiser. I own a Fat Bob 114 that has Stage 2 mods. Even with that setup, I know it doesn’t compare to the stats of the Triumph. But it is still so much fun to ride. When I want more performance and tech, I hop on my BMW K16B. Two totally different bikes, but I love riding them both. I just wish there was room in my wallet and garage for a Rocket. And a Street Triple RS, Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP, etc...
I own a 2019 HD FXDRS 114. Purchased it new. I have 20k miles on it. Just normal maintenance. Stage one now. Soon stage two. Stock 0-60 mph 2.5 seconds. Top speed 160 mph. I’ve had it upto 121. Smooth and minimal vibrations. Need an aerodynamic helmet in triple digits. It can lean 32 degrees on either side. Nimble. Very nimble. I can take corners at 45 mph with a few fingers on the throttle. Other hand in my lap. Accessories are hard to find but they are out there. It is considered a custom bike. So generally you need custom parts. It’s not for everyone but anyone who has truly riden the FXDRS can’t deny how smooth and fast it is. Also their is ABS front and rear. Also, HD corporate informed me the calibers on the FXDRS are Brembo. The deal was that Brembo makes the calipers once, only once for it with the HD name on them. This can be confirmed with corporate. I’ve never riden the triumph rocket three. I must say, this guy generally threw HD under the bus. Lol. I would love to drag race the Rocket 3.
The FXDR 0-60 is false advertisement. The Rocket does it in 2.7 and smokes the HD from the hole all the way to the end of the drag strip. Try and race one. Or try to clock that 0-60 and find out for yourself. There's 2 power cruisers , the 1700 Vmax and the Ducati Diavel who actually beat that Rocket on the drag strip. There's many video's and articles where these are compared and tested since they are the top dogs of the current muscle bike generation.
@@Theologic I will be drag racing. It officially this summer at Kalava drag raceway in northern lower Michigan, eighth of mile race track. Oh yeah, I will know what the times are like truly However, you can have the fastest motorcycle in the world and have a really bad launch and be eaten alive with a loss
I have a 2019 FXDR as well. Just bought it last week with 55 miles. Bruuuuuh the FXDR is siiiiick!. It's the sexiest bike I've ever seen in my life. I also have a 2011 Vrod Muscle with a power commander,pipes and tune. Bro I will race the FUUUUCCCK out of a Rocket 3. But then again Harley is a premium brand. You don't see Rolls Royces in drag races. Harley is too sophisticated for that ghetto foolery. Triumph makes performance bikes because Noone will buy a Triumph for any other reason. Harley makes sales no matter what they put out. Old,new,fast or slow. BECAUSE THEY'RE HARLEY! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
An interesting comparison and rather valid for Europe. However, the Rocket3 is sold out in the States, home of Harley Davidson. That said, I'd buy both and ride both, if I had the money. Either way, if you're riding, you're doing it right, no matter the bike you're on. Ride what you love, no matter the brand. Still, I find comparisons like this valuable just from a spec standpoint. It's also nice to see the feature sets compared. The most valuable thing about this video is the information presented allows riders to make the right decision for them. Excellent work, mate!
The Night Rod and the FXDR are what drew me to Harley Davidson as a brand. If it hadn't been for them, I never would've given Harley Davidson a second look.
After riding the Ducati StreetFighter V-4S , I don’t want to ride anything else, also we all have limited time to go for a ride, might as well do it on the StreetFighter V-4S !!! Bike hits all 5 senses !! Its PHENOMENAL!!!!!
The FXDR114 is not a power cruiser in any way. While the 114 is a nice motor it puts out nothing for power. Even the Indian Challenger motor liquid cooled 108CI destroys the 114. If you want a power cruiser to test against the Triumph you should use the Suzuki M109R. Now that is a beast. It’s the only cruiser I’ve ridden that power up to 246KPM in a heartbeat.
For me the Harley LineUp all of it is old outdated styling teamed up with high prices for substandard motorcycles. The Rocket 3 is a much nicer looking, and better equipped motorbike. I have tried to like Harley, but the ONLY thing that even remotely peaks my interest in the HOG market is the upcoming Bronx... It looks like it could be a winner. The other bikes all look the same with some having a windscreen and bags and others not having them. Here is Harley’s Strategy build 1 bike and then switch around parts and call it something new.
I don't think that tech ruins the riding experience. If that be the case, we can't even stand the sight of a Ferrari or Lamborghini let alone litre class suprebikes. We live in the 21st century and technology is a part of our life. Without the electronics all these powerful machines would bring more profit to morticians than the manufacturers. I've been riding motorcycles (small capacity) for the last 22 years and I won't consider riding even an RC390 without ABS. Anyways, thanks a lot for the video. During the lockdown motorcycle reviews are hard to come by. But, I'm happy to watch one from the best in the business. Keep it up.
I stopped paying attention to the Harley after hearing 1900cc, 90hp. The FXDR was one of the better bikes to come out of their new releases. Harley drops their prices 25-30% and they would be competitive. Way too much money for branding with them.
I Traded in my 2018 Fat Bob 117 For the Rocket 3r and id rate the Fat Bob a better bike than the FXDR in handling and speed but couldn't compare to the Rocket 3, Still got a 2014 Fatboy 110 though so best of both worlds.
The 114 Fat Bob would have been a better option than the FXDR. It handles better and is also way comfier. It's not going to compete with the Rocket 3 in top-end performance but it's still a very fun bike to ride with plenty of low to mid-range torque.
Why did you put that little clip of a drag race at the end? That wasn't a Rocket that Harley was racing against- it was another Harley, no wonder it won lol
@@TheMpgoober and triumph using plastic gas tanks on a 20k bike is quality?? Nah.. Not cost cutting at all..🙄😂😂 i will deal with an intake .. Alot cheaper to swap. Plus it should be noted.. They picked the ugliest Harley they could for this comparison....still not as ugly as the 🚀
The term "power cruiser" was coined when Honda unveiled their VTX1800 in 2002. For a few years, it was the biggest, most powerful factory V-twin one could buy. Yamaha's entry to the "power cruiser" segment , around that very same time, was the 1700cc Warrior. Then came the Kawasaki Vulcan 2000, the Suzuki M109R, and finally, the Triumph Rocket III. Harley-Davidson even debuted an 1800cc CVO engine in 2007, in order to compete with the big Honda. In fact, every model I just mentioned, after the Warrior, was their respective manufacturer's answer to the VTX. Sadly, the VTX1800, the Warrior and the Vulcan 2000 are all extinct, and we're stuck with the "ugly-as-sin" 109R, the "handles-like-a-wheelbarrow" Rocket III, and the "it's-a-Harley-so-it-must-be-awesome" Harley 117. Oh, wait - we still have the Yamaha VMax yet too!
....1997 Honda Valkyrie. If anything started the "power cruiser" thing it's that bike. 23 years later, the only bikes that will out run it are the m109 (barely) and the rocket. Oh and of course the vmax/diavel are kinda in their own league.
I have a few bikes. Each one does something different for me. If I feel the need for speed, I break out my CBR 1000 or the V-Max. If I just want to cruise then it's my Fat Boy. If I just want to zip to the hardware store, it's the Vespa. Each one has its specialty but if I could only have one, I don't know which one I would choose.
I see you understand motorcycling as something more than just performance oriented activity. Most "bikers" should know that. Motorcycling has become an ego meter, but nobody seems to notice it, no matter the side they're on. It's a shame.
Money talks. I tried to sell my Harley for over a year and not even HD wanted it back for anything that felt better than being Mike Tyson's cellie, so I let the Triumph dealer steal my 114 Fatboy on trade to get the Rocket 3R. There's zero comparison between the Rocket 3 and anything the Motor Company has ever conceived. If you care about capability more than the name on the side of the bike then buy anything other than a Harley, I wasted 4 years between a couple different models and they're "nostalgic" at best. I'm done with the brand.
From a strictly hypothetical point of view my heart says the Harley Davidson because of its solo design philosophy - love the bars,cockpit area on the FXDR in bad as Black.I'd have to test ride both before putting down any cash. Both bikes very different in the flesh.
My brother was in market for cruiser after I let him use my Diavel Carbon for a weekend. I went with him to test the Triumph and the HD and before seeing this video I came to same conclusion: Harley is out of their minds thinking they can charge comparable price (actually more) than the rocket and it’s insane the ability to glean from a 20 minute test ride just how far superior the rocket is to HD. I own two HDs, a fatboy and a CVO limited which I’m starting to think it’s time I divorce from HD
I didn't like the rocket 3 face.if im buying ,the headlamps will be going for good 😅. And for the fxdr, it's priced way too high. I wish it came with water cooling, rdrs and large tank. For me, my love is towards Softail fatbob, low rider S from hd. Xdiavel is also good, but cost for maintenance and parts is very high. May be the evolution max line up from harleydavidson might be promising...will wait for that i guess.
I thought it was mandatory to dress like Sons/pirate/ Terminator if one owned a Hardly (Able-to)........bought mainly (in UK) as an alternative to a midlife crisis Porsche.
@@ronwhite8503 I suppose it's a bit like people who have some variation of the joker as their profile pic... they think it makes them look edgy, but actually it makes them look fourteen years old ;)
I am actually quite surprised that HD was even worth of being compared to Triumph with respect to 'quality' and its money worthiness. In my opinion, the HD riders ride HD with some sort of cult mentality. I have no problem with that. You ride any bike you want to ride. HOWEVER, for most of non-HD cult riders, the comparison like between Rocket III and VMax would have been more appropriate. (You already did with XDiavel😋) Is there any non-HD rider here did NOT know that Rocket III would turn out to be a far better bike than FXDR 114 technically and money worth wise even before watching this clip?? 🤔
Key word: technically. In numbers, there are superior bikes than H-D, but numbers aren't all. There's more in life than performance. Performance is a racing mentality, but truth be said, not everyone is avid to race from semaphore A to B. Having racing specs is just a little place to enjoy in the vast world of motorcycling.
@@omarsalgado9715 The R3 will beat the Harley in every test. You are right. It isnt just about numbers but performance and suspension work in tandem. Again, the R3 will beat the Harley in every test because forward foot controls and shit suspension work in tandem.
@@glickmpb Ok. Now the argument shifts to "tandems". Just admit performance isn't a pinnacle in motorcycling. There's more than just being a speed freak and high numbers.
@@glickmpb Ok. Now the argument shifts to "tandems". Just admit performance isn't a pinnacle in motorcycling. There's more than just being a speed freak and high numbers.
I'm always suspicious of comparisons that are completely one sided. Even when you gave a point to the HD you somehow managed to use it as a way to praise the Rocket even more.
Here is the thing about Harleys.. it’s the sound, looks and handling which makes them fun bikes. Of course there are more performant bikes out there, but usually they sound like a vacuum cleaner. What’s the point of them? Electric bikes will outperform them all, if not all per se right now then very very soon. So for me it’s either the experience that only HD can deliver or then electric bike for maximum performance (and HD has a pretty dope electric bike too so..) Btw what’s with that rocket 3 gauge? It already looks obsolete, not just weird.
Triumph looks bulky, not like a motorcycle, why would you compare 1800cc motorcycle with 2500cc anyway??? It's like comparing 600cc with 1000cc. What's the point? Different size, different engine configuration, different niche of use. Might as well compare bus vs helicopter: look, bus can't fly, I'm very disappointed.
With the Rocket having 30% more cc's and all that power, why did it lose in the quarter mile run. Look close. The Harley crossed the line first. Why wasn't there any comment on that?
new rocket clock 1/4 mille at like 10,5s/195-200 km/h fxdr clock 1/4 mile at like 12s /170-175 km/h = rocket win on quarter mile with stock fxdr unlees on rocket drivve your grandma :x
Anyway, the fxdr is to be discontinued next year... The Rocket 3 is really a beast (I rode one for a test) but maybe in the long run, it feels like you might get bored with it (too much perfect ?...). I'll stick with my "antique" Harley...
the Harley is forgettable at best.. the triumph, wow. I've been on this bike, it feels so much more nimble and smaller than it looks. it's not cheap though here in Australia, but I'm saving my pennies to upgrade to it. packed with goodies and legendary build quality that is triumph
The Harley isn't forgettable. It's a great bike. From light to light it will hold with the Rocket. After that, the rocket takes over. But from light to light the Rocket will outrun almost every sport bike. After 100 the sport bikes take over. It's all about perspective. I love my Rocket 3. It has all the power you need and still cruises long distances with the best of them. I don't own and FXDR but I did own a Fat Bob and I loved that bike just as much. Honestly I preferred it for around town riding. Being brutally honest, the old Rocket 3 is probably a better cruiser than the new one. With a little tuning and a good set of lungs it makes just as much power as the new one and although it's heavier, it's more comfortable. For me the biggest knock on the Harley's are the drive belts. As a long hauler, shaft drive is so much easier and more convenient. They last forever with almost no maintenance. They aren't as efficient but when you have the kind of power a Rocket has then they don't need to be. You may technically lose 4-5% efficiency but you aren't losing performance.
Easy choice Vmax. Yeah I have a bias being the owner of 3 over my last 41 years, 95, 2001 and a 2012. With the second gen you really look for the zx's and busas to play with..But if I had to pick from these two it would be the Triumph
I own a 2019 fxdrs, and I have passenger pegs and a rear pillar seat installed when I bought the bike brand new.. It is an option for this bike, easily installed by the dealer.
Harley is a lifestyle I have heard. Not my lifestyle. Fifty years of bikes and the GT 3 is perhaps the most well engineered bike I have EVER owned. Dang, it is fast.
Harley Davidson as always try to sell an old technology with the new wrapping, Triumph are ways ahead Davidson in tech and they know how to build a finest motorcycle
The reason I sat through this drivel was to see a head to head drag race. In the last few seconds it actually looks like you did it but chose not to show us. In fact through editing and camera angles it looks like the Harley won.
While being 6'4" or taller might have other advantages, like some sports, it is not the average rider's height. Most riders, casual and professional are well under 6 feet tall and thats who bikes are designed for. I am exactly 6 feet tall and still feel crammed on some sport bikes.
There were power cruisers in the 80s, Kawasaki had the ZL 1000, there was a 900 I believe they were the eliminators not to be confused with the silly little custom looking things of recent! Also, VF 750 C AND XJ 750!!!
Ringo, correct on the KZ900 and 1000's. Late '70s my brother gave me his 900, he got the 1000. Back then, if you were on a 900/1000 you were the baddest mofo on the road. Hell, I own a Rocket 3, but I'm looking at hopefully Kawasaki bringing out the 900's again. I'd buy one, just for the nostalgia. Engine with Kerker header, tank, seat, That's it! Lol
Styling aside, how on Earth do you have such a massive engine produce so little torque and HP? Shit my BMW Nine T has 110hp 86lbT from a 1170cc opposed twin.....
If I had to have a HD then the Breakout offers 99% of the thrills the FXDR offers but in a much less offensively ugly package. That said the R3 is an astonishing bit of kit and wins this hands down.
People buy a Harley for the look and sound . If that’s what they want nothing else will do. It’s not as sophisticated as the triumph the quality is not nearly as good as a Yamaha or Honda but if you want the look and sound of a Harley nothing else will do. On the flip side Harley loyalists are old and dying Harley needs to follow triumphs example as they build traditional bikes I prefer and modern bikes for the next generation
The title says "Triumph vs Harley-Davidson", as in versus, meaning against each other. Not really much of a competition in any category was it? No matter anyway now cuz the people have spoken and the FXDR 114 is dust in the wind, as in discontinued. So just another model and example of one of the many bad decisions H-D has made in the pat 15-20 years for rich collectors to add to their stable.
I don't own a Harley, but the one thing this reviewer missed, the Harley has soul, you see it in the design, the V-twin. That Rocket has no soul what-so-ever, you'll see it in the resale in about 15 years when that rocket goes for pennies and the HD is still worth 50% of the new price.....and I don't even own one, just calling it like it is. Maybe a little British bias in this review?
That's pure crap about resale. Harley's hold value for about 5 years, then drop like a rock and are very hard to sell because the market is flooded with used harleys.
Its true. Harleys drop like a rock here in Texas. You probably could fine one that the owner would pay you to get it out of the garage. I went through that with my 1999 Fatboy. What a terrible lesson. @@dickjohnson7845
The drag race is the most important part and you glossed over it. It looked like the hd won. But we'll never know. Id say you didnt give us what we want but nobody else seems to care.
What a pointless comparison. Rocket 3 is miles ahead and much better bike overall. Rocket 3 is more refined, Better looking(In my opinion) Much more powerful, Handles better, Better tech. I test rode FXDR114 and I don't know how Harley selling it for 20K It doesn't have the fit and finish of 20K bike and very meh performance. I did a drag race with my friend and his mt07 and the mt07 smoked this bike. So what's the point to market this bike as the ultimate drag and performance bike if it lacks the performance.
Looked at the rocket but couldn't fit through my front door. Wouldn't swap a new one for my 25 year old FXDL, wouldn't swap it for an M8 either. Get what is right for you not what anyone else thinks or says.
This comparison is comical. You can only do so much with an air cooled V twin and Harley has been rehashing the same models for years. Mid controls vs forward controls? Its a no brainer which is more comfortable. Power? Another comical question because the Harley isnt even in the same class. ABS? Not on the Harley! Looks? This is the most subjective question. Reliability? Time will tell...
Harley Davidson is two decades behind the manufacturing quality, riding dynamics, fit and finish and reliability of Triumph. So it's not a fair comparison really.
Plus, hardley davidsons are way over priced under performing crap.
Agreed!
You guys really don’t get it, and probably never will🙄
More refinement, better handling, higher performance at lower price !
But Rocket 3 is not for those who consider that a silky smooth and refined Motorcycle doesn’t really ‘connect’ with the rider as much as a twin-cylinder Air-cooled Motorcycle that vibrates like hell, sounds ultra-loud with ancient technology !
BreakoutPete : No sir we don’t get it.. We look for bikes with modern technology, better performance, refinement and handling.
There was no reason for this comparison ! Rocket is miles ahead in Technology, Performance, Refinement and handling!
Problem is it's ugly, has too much tech, sounds like a scooter, and rides retarded. That harley is beautiful.
@@whipstitchwebwork1383 Looks are always subjective, so I wont argue with you. "Too much tech, sounds like a scooter and rides retarded?" Nothing is more retarded than the Harley comparison to any super cruiser. The Harley has forward foot controls and most super cruisers have mid. Why do you think that is?? Suspension? Do some reading on this Harley and you will see how much it really sux. Even in this video they talk about how bad it is. The R3 will also outperform the Harley in every test.
Back to the looks thing... The Harley is beautiful?? You see the bike in person? I have and the intake is comically stupid. Its a big old box of plastic that says 114 on it - THATS ugly AND cheap! The power output is also comical on the Harley... You can keep it :)
Whipstitch webwork I’m betting your wife appreciates your opinion of “beauty”.
Im a Harley rider. Rode the Triumph rocket. It 20 years ahead of Harley.
@@whipstitchwebwork1383 lol! spoken only like someone desperate to want an HD to be better than they really are. If you can get over the HD desperation, it is absolutely no contest... the Rocket outperforms and oozes beauty and class over this FXDR abomination
Was a very easy choice - that's why I bought the Rocket. For the guy below that hates rider modes - you can turn it all of on the Rocket - better to have extras and not use them....
Problem is...you can't turn off ugly. That harley is gorgeous. That rocket is not a good looking bike at all. I can't even explain what makes it look like shit, but most people wouldn't look at it twice.
Whipstitch webwork I would. The Harley just looks like a slightly strangely modernised 50’s Harley. And half the appeal of a Harley is they look like Harleys. That one just looks strange. The Triumph looks like a brute.
Right...better to have useless digital gadgets than a comfortable, powerful motorcycle with a V twin. The rocket is plain ugly and looks like a hipster, poser machine. I'll keep my HDs any day...they're simply a much better, more reliable motorcycle.
Rocket is a not good looking bike 🥺 dats a comedy
Whipstitch webwork you really just call that HD “gorgeous”!?! 🤣. Oh man, that’s a riot! Thanks for the laugh, I needed that!
As a Harley guy, I was looking forward to riding the FXDR 114 because I heard a lot of hooplas about it; I wasn't impressed with it at all, I was disappointed with it actually. I did try out the Triumph Rocket 3 and was very impressed with the power that it had. I just wish they had more dealerships that sold Triumph.
I also hated the FXDR. The 114 Fat Bob handles better and is waaay comfier. Perfomance wise, its not going to compete with the Rocket 3 but it still has plenty.
This is like comparing fine dining with a can of beans. Seriously, who would compare these two. I don't even dislike Harley but they're clearly not even in the same league.
Exactly!!! If I read your response first, I would NOT have written my response just now.. 😂🤣
Yet you see a pinned comment stating exactly that, yet the guy chooses the Harley..interesting huh?!
clearly in the same price bracket
@@spyderlyf3 bet hes 60 and misses the good old days
Triumph Rocket is a winner over that HD !
its also cheaper than the harley
I have a 2013 Triumph Thunderbird Storm. Triumph lists it at 97hp and 115 lb-ft of torque, stock. It has almost identical hp numbers as the FXDR and only 4 lb-ft of torque less. The T-bird has a 104 cu inch engine, or 1699cc. Ten cubic inches less than the HD, and about $5000 cheaper. I got Triumph's shorty pipes installed when I bought it, and the dealership also removed the catalytic converter. I did the air box removal kit from British Customs and installed a Power Commander V, along with getting it dyno tuned. It now puts 118 lb-ft of torque and 105 hp to the real wheel. Exhaust, new air box, PCV, and tune were about $1500. HD cant touch that performance for that price.
James Taylor but here’s the thing... I can go to any H-D dealer or small shop and install a bigger engine kit. The M8 engines are seeing up to 200hp in the right hands.
Shaun DuVall but for how much money? The stated mods are all deemed “stage 1” show me where a stage 1 HD can meet these stats.
@@2004sadmanco I used to ride with a guy who had put something like $6,000 into the engine of his 1200 Sportster, and my almost stock VTX1800 whooped that thing's a*s every time, and in every way, even when I was loaded two-up and he was riding solo. All I did to my X was put a Cobra full system on it, install a K&N air filter, install a Power Commander with a custom tune, and beef up the clutch springs. All of which I did for less than $1,500, if I remember correctly...
The Thunderbird Storm is a very cool moto.
I’ve had a couple Harleys. They only have asthmatic mode.
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@Damari Moshe Yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself :)
@Damari Moshe Yea, I have been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :)
lol
Rocket 3!
I’m looking forward to the aftermarket cans to appear for the Rocket 3 🤩 Even with the extra cost of new pipes, it’s still far better value for money and pretty much the ultimate bike IMO
The cans on the TFC version are Arrow and look mint, not heard them yet...
@@visordown Unfortunatley (i've heard) Arrow won't be making those pipes as they were intended exclusively for the TFC. I'm sure Zard and/or others will make tasty sounding mufflers before long.
Oh, and the one and only reason i'd pick the/any H-D over the Triumph is the ridiculous resale value due to the over hype that just won't die it seems :)
@@Larry_Mott Either one will be half price in 4 years. And the market is saturated right now as old baby boomers are starting to sell off their baggers. Now is a great time to buy 'pre-owned' HD, but I still want the Rocket 3, because it just does everything better. HD's are intentionally designed to require way too many expensive 'upgrades' to obtain their potential. It's all included when you buy the Rocket. And I may be wrong, but I bet the Arrow exhaust as well as some of the carbon bits will be available later on (after all the TFC's are sold and gone).
HerrBlackwood I’m pretty sure Arrow will make something ever-so-slightly the same! 🤣
Blair Taylor Good point about half price in 4 years... 2016 RIII is actually approx. half price and defo not half the bike (sounds louder/better and longer range helps compensate for concrete block handling, maybe?)
Next video: we will be comparing the 2020 C8 Corvette to the 1975 Pinto..........
Harley should bring back the vrods. Excellent motorcycles.
They did in a small way....Sportster S.
This was over before it started. HD hoping name will sell......Triumph building a bike WORTH buying. Looks are purely a subjective thing. The Harely looks like it's made out of legos. Performance and options wise.......it's ZERO contest. If you don't like all the "nanny" controls....turn them off. Using those as a reason to not buy a bike that is the same price as a bike without any of those options.....ridiculous. Let's count all the new and exciting things about the Harley (cricket......cricket). Let me please pay top dollar for that cutting edge (old and tired) air cooled V-twin tech.
You know they are using water cooled heads now right??
@@dereklindberg6704 It honestly doesnt matter!!! THe R3 will smoke it in every test!
@@glickmpb probably will, but at the end of the day, no one is buying either of these bikes for performance alone.
@@dereklindberg6704 Youre wrong. Thats EXACTLY why people buy them. People want speed and comfortability of a cruiser. The Harley has forward foot controls and almost every other cruiser has mid foot controls. Why do you think that is?
It would have been better to put the 117 cubic inch version of the HD, into the fight. But it would still lose against this Triumph. In-fact every muscle bike will lose against this awesome Triumph. It is the king of the hill. Massive power and it's not even ugly. GT or GTC.
I like what you said about the Harley being “theater”, because that rumble and feel is not to be diminished when riding a feet forward cruiser. I own a Fat Bob 114 that has Stage 2 mods. Even with that setup, I know it doesn’t compare to the stats of the Triumph. But it is still so much fun to ride. When I want more performance and tech, I hop on my BMW K16B. Two totally different bikes, but I love riding them both. I just wish there was room in my wallet and garage for a Rocket. And a Street Triple RS, Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP, etc...
The Thunderbird was a good competitor to HD. The only HD model faster than a Third was a Vrod in those years.
The K16B would have made a more interesting comparison.
I own a 2019 HD FXDRS 114. Purchased it new. I have 20k miles on it. Just normal maintenance. Stage one now. Soon stage two. Stock 0-60 mph 2.5 seconds. Top speed 160 mph. I’ve had it upto 121. Smooth and minimal vibrations. Need an aerodynamic helmet in triple digits. It can lean 32 degrees on either side. Nimble. Very nimble. I can take corners at 45 mph with a few fingers on the throttle. Other hand in my lap. Accessories are hard to find but they are out there. It is considered a custom bike. So generally you need custom parts. It’s not for everyone but anyone who has truly riden the FXDRS can’t deny how smooth and fast it is. Also their is ABS front and rear. Also, HD corporate informed me the calibers on the FXDRS are Brembo. The deal was that Brembo makes the calipers once, only once for it with the HD name on them. This can be confirmed with corporate. I’ve never riden the triumph rocket three. I must say, this guy generally threw HD under the bus. Lol. I would love to drag race the Rocket 3.
The FXDR 0-60 is false advertisement. The Rocket does it in 2.7 and smokes the HD from the hole all the way to the end of the drag strip. Try and race one. Or try to clock that 0-60 and find out for yourself. There's 2 power cruisers , the 1700 Vmax and the Ducati Diavel who actually beat that Rocket on the drag strip. There's many video's and articles where these are compared and tested since they are the top dogs of the current muscle bike generation.
@@Theologic I will be drag racing. It officially this summer at Kalava drag raceway in northern lower Michigan, eighth of mile race track. Oh yeah, I will know what the times are like truly
However, you can have the fastest motorcycle in the world and have a really bad launch and be eaten alive with a loss
@@craig2Afreedom That is true, drag racing is a skill. Post your videos!
I have a 2019 FXDR as well. Just bought it last week with 55 miles. Bruuuuuh the FXDR is siiiiick!. It's the sexiest bike I've ever seen in my life. I also have a 2011 Vrod Muscle with a power commander,pipes and tune. Bro I will race the FUUUUCCCK out of a Rocket 3.
But then again Harley is a premium brand. You don't see Rolls Royces in drag races.
Harley is too sophisticated for that ghetto foolery.
Triumph makes performance bikes because Noone will buy a Triumph for any other reason.
Harley makes sales no matter what they put out. Old,new,fast or slow.
BECAUSE THEY'RE HARLEY! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
@@fmpabxx7834 congratulations. Stage two is a huge power upgrade. Beware, you will go through tires fast
No contest, Rocket all the way!
An interesting comparison and rather valid for Europe. However, the Rocket3 is sold out in the States, home of Harley Davidson. That said, I'd buy both and ride both, if I had the money. Either way, if you're riding, you're doing it right, no matter the bike you're on. Ride what you love, no matter the brand. Still, I find comparisons like this valuable just from a spec standpoint. It's also nice to see the feature sets compared. The most valuable thing about this video is the information presented allows riders to make the right decision for them. Excellent work, mate!
The worst Harley and being deleted from their range. Wont be missed.
The Night Rod and the FXDR are what drew me to Harley Davidson as a brand. If it hadn't been for them, I never would've given Harley Davidson a second look.
After riding the Ducati StreetFighter V-4S , I don’t want to ride anything else, also we all have limited time to go for a ride, might as well do it on the StreetFighter V-4S !!! Bike hits all 5 senses !! Its PHENOMENAL!!!!!
The FXDR114 is not a power cruiser in any way. While the 114 is a nice motor it puts out nothing for power. Even the Indian Challenger motor liquid cooled 108CI destroys the 114.
If you want a power cruiser to test against the Triumph you should use the Suzuki M109R. Now that is a beast.
It’s the only cruiser I’ve ridden that power up to 246KPM in a heartbeat.
246 kilometers per minute? Sign me up, space shuttle performance at a UJM price point!
For me the Harley LineUp all of it is old outdated styling teamed up with high prices for substandard motorcycles. The Rocket 3 is a much nicer looking, and better equipped motorbike. I have tried to like Harley, but the ONLY thing that even remotely peaks my interest in the HOG market is the upcoming Bronx... It looks like it could be a winner. The other bikes all look the same with some having a windscreen and bags and others not having them. Here is Harley’s Strategy build 1 bike and then switch around parts and call it something new.
Is there a link to the drag racing footage at beginning and end of this video?
I don't think that tech ruins the riding experience. If that be the case, we can't even stand the sight of a Ferrari or Lamborghini let alone litre class suprebikes. We live in the 21st century and technology is a part of our life. Without the electronics all these powerful machines would bring more profit to morticians than the manufacturers. I've been riding motorcycles (small capacity) for the last 22 years and I won't consider riding even an RC390 without ABS.
Anyways, thanks a lot for the video. During the lockdown motorcycle reviews are hard to come by. But, I'm happy to watch one from the best in the business. Keep it up.
I stopped paying attention to the Harley after hearing 1900cc, 90hp.
The FXDR was one of the better bikes to come out of their new releases. Harley drops their prices 25-30% and they would be competitive. Way too much money for branding with them.
I Traded in my 2018 Fat Bob 117 For the Rocket 3r and id rate the Fat Bob a better bike than the FXDR in handling and speed but couldn't compare to the Rocket 3, Still got a 2014 Fatboy 110 though so best of both worlds.
The 114 Fat Bob would have been a better option than the FXDR. It handles better and is also way comfier. It's not going to compete with the Rocket 3 in top-end performance but it's still a very fun bike to ride with plenty of low to mid-range torque.
Why did you put that little clip of a drag race at the end? That wasn't a Rocket that Harley was racing against- it was another Harley, no wonder it won lol
I would own either but the new Rocket is an amazing bike to ride. It doesn't feel big above walking speed.
The British dudes picked the triumph?? (Shock and awe 🙄). Forget to mention, the rocket 3 engine looks about as attractive as a tractor engine. 😂😂
Anybody in their right mind would choose the Triumph. As for the engine looking like a tractor? Well, at least is doesn’t perform like one.
@@tykiedog tank seams on a 20k bike... Good thing its fast.. Because its ugly asf.. 😂😂
@@dereklindberg6704 No tank seems showing on the rocket, your thinking of a honda, also that intake on the fxdr is plastic (now that's quality).
@@TheMpgoober and triumph using plastic gas tanks on a 20k bike is quality?? Nah.. Not cost cutting at all..🙄😂😂 i will deal with an intake .. Alot cheaper to swap. Plus it should be noted.. They picked the ugliest Harley they could for this comparison....still not as ugly as the 🚀
@@dereklindberg6704 Plastic gas tanks? You dolt.
The term "power cruiser" was coined when Honda unveiled their VTX1800 in 2002. For a few years, it was the biggest, most powerful factory V-twin one could buy. Yamaha's entry to the "power cruiser" segment , around that very same time, was the 1700cc Warrior. Then came the Kawasaki Vulcan 2000, the Suzuki M109R, and finally, the Triumph Rocket III. Harley-Davidson even debuted an 1800cc CVO engine in 2007, in order to compete with the big Honda. In fact, every model I just mentioned, after the Warrior, was their respective manufacturer's answer to the VTX. Sadly, the VTX1800, the Warrior and the Vulcan 2000 are all extinct, and we're stuck with the "ugly-as-sin" 109R, the "handles-like-a-wheelbarrow" Rocket III, and the "it's-a-Harley-so-it-must-be-awesome" Harley 117. Oh, wait - we still have the Yamaha VMax yet too!
....1997 Honda Valkyrie. If anything started the "power cruiser" thing it's that bike. 23 years later, the only bikes that will out run it are the m109 (barely) and the rocket. Oh and of course the vmax/diavel are kinda in their own league.
I have a few bikes. Each one does something different for me. If I feel the need for speed, I break out my CBR 1000 or the V-Max. If I just want to cruise then it's my Fat Boy. If I just want to zip to the hardware store, it's the Vespa. Each one has its specialty but if I could only have one, I don't know which one I would choose.
I see you understand motorcycling as something more than just performance oriented activity. Most "bikers" should know that. Motorcycling has become an ego meter, but nobody seems to notice it, no matter the side they're on. It's a shame.
Why was the audio recorded in the bathroom?
Narrator is British so it should properly be called "the loo"
@@kingkrimson8771 I'm Aussie so I probably should have called it the dunny, shithouse or thunderbox 😁 🍻
Money talks. I tried to sell my Harley for over a year and not even HD wanted it back for anything that felt better than being Mike Tyson's cellie, so I let the Triumph dealer steal my 114 Fatboy on trade to get the Rocket 3R. There's zero comparison between the Rocket 3 and anything the Motor Company has ever conceived. If you care about capability more than the name on the side of the bike then buy anything other than a Harley, I wasted 4 years between a couple different models and they're "nostalgic" at best. I'm done with the brand.
Triumph is my favorite ❤️💙💜
When i buy a Range Rover, dis is my compo ☺️☺️☺️
From a strictly hypothetical point of view my heart says the Harley Davidson because of its solo design philosophy - love the bars,cockpit area on the FXDR in bad as Black.I'd have to test ride both before putting down any cash. Both bikes very different in the flesh.
So who won the quarter mile at the end?
How is this even a competition?
Actually almost anything against a Harley brings up the same question....
My brother was in market for cruiser after I let him use my Diavel Carbon for a weekend. I went with him to test the Triumph and the HD and before seeing this video I came to same conclusion: Harley is out of their minds thinking they can charge comparable price (actually more) than the rocket and it’s insane the ability to glean from a 20 minute test ride just how far superior the rocket is to HD. I own two HDs, a fatboy and a CVO limited which I’m starting to think it’s time I divorce from HD
Beast vs. bike . No comparison .
No contest
Why would you bother comparing these two?
It’s like chalk n cheese;
Rocket 3 the storm, & Harley the breeze.
I didn't like the rocket 3 face.if im buying ,the headlamps will be going for good 😅.
And for the fxdr, it's priced way too high. I wish it came with water cooling, rdrs and large tank.
For me, my love is towards Softail fatbob, low rider S from hd. Xdiavel is also good, but cost for maintenance and parts is very high.
May be the evolution max line up from harleydavidson might be promising...will wait for that i guess.
This isn’t really a competition, Harleys are made for cruising to hooters and hanging out with your friends, not for riding
Why didn't you show the races?
That HD is a good looking motorcycle, but do I still have to dress like a pirate to ride it?
You don't have to dress like anything mate... ride it in a pink tutu if that's what floats your boat :)
Puhahahaha.. You probably should!!.. Lmao.. However, you should NOT wear an eye patch and are strongly advised to wear a full face helmet.!! 🤣😂
@@Tobeon2 true pirates take bugs to the face...argh!!
I thought it was mandatory to dress like Sons/pirate/ Terminator if one owned a Hardly (Able-to)........bought mainly (in UK) as an alternative to a midlife crisis Porsche.
@@ronwhite8503 I suppose it's a bit like people who have some variation of the joker as their profile pic... they think it makes them look edgy, but actually it makes them look fourteen years old ;)
I am actually quite surprised that HD was even worth of being compared to Triumph with respect to 'quality' and its money worthiness. In my opinion, the HD riders ride HD with some sort of cult mentality. I have no problem with that. You ride any bike you want to ride. HOWEVER, for most of non-HD cult riders, the comparison like between Rocket III and VMax would have been more appropriate. (You already did with XDiavel😋) Is there any non-HD rider here did NOT know that Rocket III would turn out to be a far better bike than FXDR 114 technically and money worth wise even before watching this clip?? 🤔
Key word: technically.
In numbers, there are superior bikes than H-D, but numbers aren't all. There's more in life than performance. Performance is a racing mentality, but truth be said, not everyone is avid to race from semaphore A to B. Having racing specs is just a little place to enjoy in the vast world of motorcycling.
@@omarsalgado9715 The R3 will beat the Harley in every test. You are right. It isnt just about numbers but performance and suspension work in tandem. Again, the R3 will beat the Harley in every test because forward foot controls and shit suspension work in tandem.
@@glickmpb Ok. Now the argument shifts to "tandems". Just admit performance isn't a pinnacle in motorcycling. There's more than just being a speed freak and high numbers.
@@glickmpb Ok. Now the argument shifts to "tandems". Just admit performance isn't a pinnacle in motorcycling. There's more than just being a speed freak and high numbers.
@@omarsalgado9715 The point is, all things being equal, why would you buy something with substandard performance?
I'm always suspicious of comparisons that are completely one sided. Even when you gave a point to the HD you somehow managed to use it as a way to praise the Rocket even more.
Nothing in the review can be argued. So if its one sided that is a HD problem.
Here is the thing about Harleys.. it’s the sound, looks and handling which makes them fun bikes. Of course there are more performant bikes out there, but usually they sound like a vacuum cleaner. What’s the point of them? Electric bikes will outperform them all, if not all per se right now then very very soon. So for me it’s either the experience that only HD can deliver or then electric bike for maximum performance (and HD has a pretty dope electric bike too so..) Btw what’s with that rocket 3 gauge? It already looks obsolete, not just weird.
Harley and Handling are two things that don't go together. Harley handling is still rubbish and behind the times.
Triumph looks bulky, not like a motorcycle, why would you compare 1800cc motorcycle with 2500cc anyway??? It's like comparing 600cc with 1000cc. What's the point? Different size, different engine configuration, different niche of use. Might as well compare bus vs helicopter: look, bus can't fly, I'm very disappointed.
With the Rocket having 30% more cc's and all that power, why did it lose in the quarter mile run. Look close. The Harley crossed the line first. Why wasn't there any comment on that?
Because that was a drag race between an FXDR and a Sportster. It was taken from a Harley Davidson ad, so there was no Rocket 3 involved.
new rocket clock 1/4 mille at like 10,5s/195-200 km/h fxdr clock 1/4 mile at like 12s /170-175 km/h = rocket win on quarter mile with stock fxdr unlees on rocket drivve your grandma :x
Stupid comparison
Harley is not a power anything.
Anyway, the fxdr is to be discontinued next year... The Rocket 3 is really a beast (I rode one for a test) but maybe in the long run, it feels like you might get bored with it (too much perfect ?...). I'll stick with my "antique" Harley...
the Harley is forgettable at best.. the triumph, wow. I've been on this bike, it feels so much more nimble and smaller than it looks. it's not cheap though here in Australia, but I'm saving my pennies to upgrade to it. packed with goodies and legendary build quality that is triumph
The Harley isn't forgettable. It's a great bike. From light to light it will hold with the Rocket. After that, the rocket takes over. But from light to light the Rocket will outrun almost every sport bike. After 100 the sport bikes take over. It's all about perspective. I love my Rocket 3. It has all the power you need and still cruises long distances with the best of them. I don't own and FXDR but I did own a Fat Bob and I loved that bike just as much. Honestly I preferred it for around town riding. Being brutally honest, the old Rocket 3 is probably a better cruiser than the new one. With a little tuning and a good set of lungs it makes just as much power as the new one and although it's heavier, it's more comfortable. For me the biggest knock on the Harley's are the drive belts. As a long hauler, shaft drive is so much easier and more convenient. They last forever with almost no maintenance. They aren't as efficient but when you have the kind of power a Rocket has then they don't need to be. You may technically lose 4-5% efficiency but you aren't losing performance.
Easy choice Vmax. Yeah I have a bias being the owner of 3 over my last 41 years, 95, 2001 and a 2012. With the second gen you really look for the zx's and busas to play with..But if I had to pick from these two it would be the Triumph
My 1290R eats VMaxes for lunch!
Meet me in the twisties with your vmax, then you can get a good look at the rear of the Rocket.
Lol have some rice
No comparison, like comparing a Cadillac to a Bentley or Rolls.
I own a 2019 fxdrs, and I have passenger pegs and a rear pillar seat installed when I bought the bike brand new.. It is an option for this bike, easily installed by the dealer.
Harley is a lifestyle I have heard. Not my lifestyle. Fifty years of bikes and the GT 3 is perhaps the most well engineered bike I have EVER owned. Dang, it is fast.
Lol silky smooth but way big. I prefer HD Zohan :)
Harley Davidson as always try to sell an old technology with the new wrapping, Triumph are ways ahead Davidson in tech and they know how to build a finest motorcycle
These 2 bikes aren't really close power to weight wise.
Harley had there chance by upgrading the vrod with better ergonomics, but decided to stop making it all together. There loss.
RIP HD as a company
The old gen rocket 3 would still smash the fxdr. Theyre literally not even competing
Absolutely. I have a 2016 Rocket Roadster and stock it murders anything that Harley has. Of course, I couldn't leave it stock, so ....
What are you talking about the fxdr has abs, along with all the other Harley cruiser bikes
I'm on my 1st hd road king m8 stage 2, it's the funnest mc I've ever ridden!
The reason I sat through this drivel was to see a head to head drag race. In the last few seconds it actually looks like you did it but chose not to show us. In fact through editing and camera angles it looks like the Harley won.
As it was two Harleys in the race then the Harley was always going to win.
Triumph all day
If you're over 6'4 the R3 is simply too small.
While being 6'4" or taller might have other advantages, like some sports, it is not the average rider's height. Most riders, casual and professional are well under 6 feet tall and thats who bikes are designed for. I am exactly 6 feet tall and still feel crammed on some sport bikes.
There were power cruisers in the 80s, Kawasaki had the ZL 1000, there was a 900 I believe they were the eliminators not to be confused with the silly little custom looking things of recent!
Also, VF 750 C AND XJ 750!!!
Ringo, correct on the KZ900 and 1000's. Late '70s my brother gave me his 900, he got the 1000. Back then, if you were on a 900/1000 you were the baddest mofo on the road. Hell, I own a Rocket 3, but I'm looking at hopefully Kawasaki bringing out the 900's again. I'd buy one, just for the nostalgia. Engine with Kerker header, tank, seat, That's it! Lol
the winner is Triumph , because Harley just cancelled the FXDR.
.... and in May just voted themselves another pay raise for senior executives.....
Clicked for drag race , still waiting
it should be between diavel and rocket 3, not the fxdr. Everyone knows rocket 3 is a better machine than fxdr.
You can check it out here the Rocket 3 vs Diavel Comparison video: ruclips.net/video/l5N6puY5ogc/видео.html
@@visordown thanks 😁
Absolutely dead right on all point’s
What’s next ? BMW K1600 vs any of the touring harleys ? Ducati Monster 1200 vs Sportster 1200 ?
Styling aside, how on Earth do you have such a massive engine produce so little torque and HP? Shit my BMW Nine T has 110hp 86lbT from a 1170cc opposed twin.....
Would have been lovely if you also included the starting ignition sounds for both bikes, without the background music of course :/
If I had to have a HD then the Breakout offers 99% of the thrills the FXDR offers but in a much less offensively ugly package. That said the R3 is an astonishing bit of kit and wins this hands down.
$20000 grant for a very ugly bare bones air cooled push rod engine. For one, I’ll be surprised if they sell one.VERY UGLY VERY EXPENSIVE.
Harley looks nice, But over priced. With the tech fitted now on bikes, Who wants to pay close the same for a name. Its just not on the same level.
So why buy a Harley again?...
The Harley is being discontinued. Dumb design and Harley couldn’t fool anyone!! And I’m a Harley rider!
People buy a Harley for the look and sound . If that’s what they want nothing else will do. It’s not as sophisticated as the triumph the quality is not nearly as good as a Yamaha or Honda but if you want the look and sound of a Harley nothing else will do. On the flip side Harley loyalists are old and dying Harley needs to follow triumphs example as they build traditional bikes I prefer and modern bikes for the next generation
No surprise here. Harleys are overpriced POS. You pay more but get less with Harleys...go figure
One is made in the USA, one is made Thailand
Magyar Telea what?
One is made in Thailand, the other is mostly made in China
The title says "Triumph vs Harley-Davidson", as in versus, meaning against each other. Not really much of a competition in any category was it? No matter anyway now cuz the people have spoken and the FXDR 114 is dust in the wind, as in discontinued. So just another model and example of one of the many bad decisions H-D has made in the pat 15-20 years for rich collectors to add to their stable.
I don't own a Harley, but the one thing this reviewer missed, the Harley has soul, you see it in the design, the V-twin. That Rocket has no soul what-so-ever, you'll see it in the resale in about 15 years when that rocket goes for pennies and the HD is still worth 50% of the new price.....and I don't even own one, just calling it like it is. Maybe a little British bias in this review?
That's pure crap about resale. Harley's hold value for about 5 years, then drop like a rock and are very hard to sell because the market is flooded with used harleys.
Very true. I gave several HDs away.@@dickjohnson7845
Its true. Harleys drop like a rock here in Texas. You probably could fine one that the owner would pay you to get it out of the garage. I went through that with my 1999 Fatboy. What a terrible lesson. @@dickjohnson7845
FXDR looks sooo much better !!
The drag race is the most important part and you glossed over it. It looked like the hd won. But we'll never know. Id say you didnt give us what we want but nobody else seems to care.
HD is an amazing motorcyle. Until you compare is to any other motorcycle. Then it sucks.
lol
Both good bikes but not comparable. I am lucky and have both bikes, rocket for fast ride outs with mates, harley just for fun!
Please tell us something about the results from the Quartermile. I´m sure, that the Rocket is faster by far.
What a pointless comparison. Rocket 3 is miles ahead and much better bike overall. Rocket 3 is more refined, Better looking(In my opinion) Much more powerful, Handles better, Better tech. I test rode FXDR114 and I don't know how Harley selling it for 20K It doesn't have the fit and finish of 20K bike and very meh performance. I did a drag race with my friend and his mt07 and the mt07 smoked this bike. So what's the point to market this bike as the ultimate drag and performance bike if it lacks the performance.
Looked at the rocket but couldn't fit through my front door. Wouldn't swap a new one for my 25 year old FXDL, wouldn't swap it for an M8 either. Get what is right for you not what anyone else thinks or says.
And up next, 100 meter race featuring Usain Bolt vs a turtle, who will win? We will only know after the race.
This comparison is comical. You can only do so much with an air cooled V twin and Harley has been rehashing the same models for years. Mid controls vs forward controls? Its a no brainer which is more comfortable. Power? Another comical question because the Harley isnt even in the same class. ABS? Not on the Harley! Looks? This is the most subjective question. Reliability? Time will tell...
"Rocket 3 is better than fxdr" the movie
No comparison between these bikes...the rocket3 is class the harley is well...just a harley!!!
Rockets headlights look goofy