My journey to Christ started October 7th 2023. I wasn’t looking for God, I definitely didn’t go looking for Jesus I thought he was only a man. I was lead to Him through things I was naturally interested in. Things like history, truth, debates, intelligence. I thanks God He lead me to Jesus Christ 🎉
God bless you! Hallelujah! Amen! I was searching for God but Jesus touched my heart, literally, and I KNEW it was Him, and I have not been the same since. This was Spring 2023 while I was sleeping. I’m so in love with Jesus, I don’t know how I’ve lived my life without knowing Him. God bless you, and praise our almighty LORD for drawing us to Him! ✨💖💪✝️🕊️💖✨
Avery, your patience and dedication are amazing. You truly love your lost Muslim brothers and sisters. Someday our Lord will say to you: "Well done, good and faithful servant!"
Please keep trying to get Sam Shamounian to extend his fuse before he throws out insults. I know he knows all this already but hearing you talk to that Jew Athiest guest was so warming and insightful. Sam is missing out on these interactions as well because not everybody is an adversary. Who wants be insulted when they ask questions to test whether the answers you give stand on solid foundation. Also, the audience doesn't always want to hear mothers and muta every 30 secs. Sometimes it's necessary however it's to the detriment of the listening and knowledge intake.
1st caller said the Jews didnt associate partner with God... Didnt dumb momo said in the quran that the jews said Ezra is the Son of Allah? Thats not associating partner? 😅
@@psykevactive9114Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😅
Bible did told us that God can transform n talk or speak to us .. At OT ...God review to Abraham, Jacob , the KING of Mickelcidek , God speak to Moses in form of fire, cloud. OT God make closer to us by transformed itself to man Jesus Christ n live to us...later God did promised never leave us but His Holy spirit will stay with us forever as long as we believe in HIM
@joshuasykes1929 nah only once they start asking me about star signs and talking about the healing power of quarts do I attribute witchcraft to them mentally ahaha. When they just blanket say "spiritual" I assume it's just the lazy new age hippy self love mindset. But I feel you
OUR BIBLE , OH OUR BIBLE YOU , WE LOVE SO MUCH YOU ARE THE BOOK OF BOOKS A WONDERFUL LOVE LETTER FROM GOD A LIGHT ON OUR PATH IN THIS DARK WORLD YOU ARE A GUIDE AND TEACHER FOR US OH , BIBLE BOOK SO SWEET AND GLORIOUS.
Hi Kelvin. I am here because of your discussion at Smart Christian Channel with Corey. I started really watching your channel recently and I am enjoying it. Thank you Jesus for leading me to your channel. God bless!!!❤❤
Kelvin is not a trinitarian. He seems to hold to an Arian view of God where the Son and the Spirit are emanations of the Father and derive their deity from Him. That's heresy.
@Kelvin is not confused. That is the level of his understanding. He does not reject the trinity per se. Most Christians are where he is. He just doesn’t understand it to the level Godlogic does. Nothing he said was a lie.
It is so painful listening to these clowns who panic and refuse to answer the simplest most direct possible questions. The guy at the end, Avery asks, What dd I say. First words of his answer..........I said Demonic stupidity, demonic dishonesty, demonic ignorance. Pray for these lost souls. God bless you Avery.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
45:00 this oneness idea, never heard of it explained but he’s got me having to build a whole separate arsenal. Been focusing on JWs Mormonism, and Islam, whew! Taking notes Avery, taking notes!
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@@abdorahim6435 1. Moses said it, not God. 2. The Hebrew says young women 3. Nothing in this verse mentions rape not is it implied. Rape was a sin deserving of death. Dt. 22:25
1:06:50 “Monarchical Trinitarianism, also referred to as the “Monarchy of the Father,” is a theological perspective that asserts the Father as the sole source (or monarch) within the Trinity. This view maintains a clear distinction of roles among the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit while upholding their unity in essence.” …. Luke J. Wilson
There was a time that I didn’t like using the word, “Trinity” and that was exactly how I described the Godhead, I believe “Monarchical Trinity” would help non-believers to understand the divinity of The Son very easily.
@@Jackson-kq4ro that simply means in one accord. When the Bible says a man and a woman are one when they get married does that magically make them the same person no it doesn’t. It simply means works as one toward the same goal or having the same mindset.
@Rj-wy8nk The Word is God made flesh. The Father is just a Spirit. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit who proceeds from the Father. Therefore because the Father is not Flesh but a Spirit, The WORD is not just Spirit but also flesh, and The Spirit is the divine Spirit who comes forth from the Father making The Father, The WORD, and the Spirit three distinct persons who make up this ONE being who we call God. Which the Bible says are ONE. Look at the word "ONE" in the context of plurality and distinction.
Bob of Speakers Corner used a good Trinity analogy that I find the easiest to remember and use in debates. The eternal lake on a mountain. A stream flows out from the lake down one side of the mountain, and another stream flows out the other side. The lake is the Father, two streams are Jesus and the Holy Spirit. This is a clear picture of how the three distinct persons all share the same divine essence. The Father stays in heaven, Jesus and the Holy Spirit go out into the world.
It's a crying shame and an embarrassment that Avery has to not only explain their religion but, is also tasked with explaining the English language to someone who sounds as if English is their first language...🙄
Great stream, brother. I think some sound proof foam on the walls and rug/carpet on your floor would greatly improve the audio. You are doing Gods work. Stay safe!
I like Kelvin Greene and that’s how I explain the Godhead to people to understand it better. That is, The Father is God, however, His Word came out of His being Who is The Son Who became Flesh (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father.
@edward1412 Either way, that's a Trinity. However, I'm not sure that this as clear-cut as that. I'm not so sure that The Son literally came forth from the Father's being. If this is true then wouldn't that mean that there was a time in eternity past when Christ wasn't a distinct personality? If you say yes than that's not scriptural. Its An honest question.
@ I understand your question perfectly and at times I ask myself the same question. This is why some believe that the Father begot the Son from Eternity past. I’m not sure if that means The Son has always being distinct from The Father from eternity or there was a time that The Word and The Spirit were alive together within The Father’s being until The Father revealed them where we got the distinctiveness. This might be a bad example, but it’s like how I’ve a body, soul and spirit which makes me as one being but later I revealed my spirit and my soul out from my being for them to become distinct from me.
Godlogic, regarding the guy who brought the issue of Jesus "serving" His Father forever, I think you did extremely well in answering. Your answers were truly inspired. Praise the LORD.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
I HAVE never had an issue with the trininty because there is no limits to God i thank God that i dont have to comprehend everything when you realise faith is enough otherwise God would only call the smart people these callers express such religous arrogance that wont get them anywhere 🤣
1:19:45 I can see where he is coming from. A lot of well meaning people may speak incorrectly or understand incorrectly. The trinity is a very complicated concept. We all start lost.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
You agree because you’re a Muslim. It’s because you want a God that you can wrap your head around. The beauty of the trinity is that it reflects how God is-not to be 100% understood.
@@jamesjones11301994Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
@luqmanmuhammad802 "1 God, his Word and his Spirit! I agree and I am Muslim" - Do you agree that the Word and the Holy Spirit are distinct persons from the father?.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John 17:3 needs to be read in context to fully appreciate what Jesus was saying in that prayer. The contrast is not between the Father and the Son but between the Father and the world’s false gods and idols. Jesus is conversing with the Father who is in heaven while Jesus is on earth. Jesus’ statement that the Father is the only true God should not be seen as contradictory or inconsistent with the whole of the Bible, which supports the fact Jesus Christ is God.
Grasping a straws you are . Your arguement is a false equivalence arguement. Jesus never says he is God , there are verses you claim he's claiming he's God big difference. Most of them are interpreted that way because you guys like the Pharisees make the same mistake. For eg. John 8 vs 58 Joh 8:58 AKJV Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am. On the surface ripped from it context it sounds like it says that But Jesus is replying to the question(s) from john 8vs 53. Joh 8:53 AKJV Are you greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom make you yourself? Was Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham and the Prophets?? Yes he was , he was not saying he was God. Tell me something cam God be tempted by evil and sin? No he cannot james 1 vs 13 makes that very clear. Jas 1:13 AKJV+ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man: Jas 1:14 AKJV+ But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Jesus was tempted in all points as we are , in fact he suffered temptation as is shown in heb 2 vs 17 -18. Therefore Jesus is not God. That's how you back up an arguement, not make a whole lot of statements and claims and never show the from the #1 authority your reasoning. You never backed up your reasoning from scripture.
The proper definition, I think, is: One God, His Word, and His Spirit. He, as the source, assumes the Father persona and His word assumes the Son persona, while his Holy Spirit assumes the Spirit persona as revealed in God's dealings and interaction with mankind.
Nah that would imply they're ontologically separate and that the word only came to be when the father spoke it . They aren't separate Jesus says that him and his father are one. Also the word cannot be made Because everything that was made was made through the word . John 1:3 So if the word was made the word would have to be made through itself because it says everything that was made was made through the word.
Avery congratulations on your channel growing, can't wait for Friday's stream having DW, IP and AP on the channel. None of the Dawah boys will answer the challenge. The second Muslim caller does not understand that the word "only" modifies "true God" and as a Trinitarian I do believe that the father is the only true God (because there are no other gods) however this does not exclude the deity of the Son or the Holy Spirit. This means that for me as a trinitarian the Son is the only true God, and it would be true of the Holy Spirit as well. This is because all three persons of the trinity is the only true God. The Muslim would have had an argument is Jesus had said that the Father alone is the only true God that would have excluded the Son and the Holy Spirit. But since Jesus said the father is the only true God it simply means that Jesus recognizes the deity of the father. Kelvin Greene is incorrect in his assertion that Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, however it does seem that he himself is a monarchial trinitarian.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
I'm a (prot Christian), I pray exactly like Jesus: 1. To our Father 2. Standing 3. Looking up 4. Laying face down 5. Lifting up my hands Run from Mo. Come to Jesus, the one who loves you even when you deny him.
Jesus does say the Father is the true God but he also says believe in you the only true God AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent. It’s inclusive speech, incorporating the Father and Jesus under the title of ‘only true God’
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@ that has nothing to do with my point. So since you have not dealt with my point I’ll assume you cannot so in the case of that verse it is clear in John that Jesus is saying the true God is the Father and the Son.
God has never been without his Word and has never been without his Spirit. They are one in nature "made of the same Godly material so to speak" Everything was created through his Word.
I have reached the point where I just skip the parts where the trinity is the subject. It is tiring to hear a clear explanation supported by cited biblical verses that can’t be taken out of context and people still don’t understand or they understand and still reject it.
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The Father who is Jesus. Sent his son who is Jesus. And Jesus who is the father did the will of his father. Then the father sent Jesus who is also the father the Holy Spirit who is also the father to dwell in the believers. So the Father sends the Father to do the will of the Father and the Father sends the Father and he will only do what he hears from the father. And oneness is true but at Jesus baptism it was the father who is the dove who came down on Jesus who is the father and the father spoke also to the father saying that is his son and he is well pleased. There I explained oneness theology for anyone who doesn’t understand.
this is an explanation for Muslims and Unitarians. According to the Bible, GOD can be defined as a divine being who is characterized as three distinct persons interdependent on each other who belong to the same divine beings. For example, let's assume that God is an equilateral triangle (triangle with all equal sides) if we remove one side from that triangle, we can no longer say that it is a triangle. So the triangle (God) is made up of three sides. side one (god the father) side two (god the son jesus) side three (god the holy spirit) and if we eliminate one side we can no longer call it a triangle. and when we refer to the first side of the triangle (god the father) we eliminate the word triangle (god) we only leave the word side (father)
The best way for me to explain the trinity is the water analogy. There's different states of water theres liquid , ice and vapor/ steam/gas and they all have a different purpose. You can drink the liquid form, use the solid form to make a drink colder or you can steam for cooking or heating. So the liquid state isnt solid or gas, the gas state isn't solid or luiquid and the solid state isnt gas or liquid but they all come from a luquid state.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
1:17:12 mark. I have to correct you on that one brother. Some trinitarians do teach that they are 3 separate persons. That's what I've been taught my whole life. And I didn't know until recently that Jesus is God because of that kind of teaching....I had no idea. So yes..there are some who do teach 3 Gods without coming right out and saying 3 Gods. If you separate them then you have 3. I now believe they are 3 in 1, not as the oneness teach but as you are teaching. They are distict but not separate.
Just in case you want to expound on this more. Augustine wrote, "The Father is the only true God in the sense that He is the source of divinity, and the Son, who is begotten from the Father, is also truly God, as He shares the Father’s essence." This aligns with his doctrine of the consubstantiality (same substance) of the Father and the Son. I've checked and most of the church fathers held this view. Well, I say most, but all the ones I checked said i'm just leaving a possibility that someone had a different view, but I did not see that different view.
In the Gospel of Matthew 28 verse 62 The High Priest charged Jesus to tell them whether He was The Son of God which means they knew that God has a Son .
Hey Logic, I spent most of my life in Oneness Theology. Next time you get one of these guys, take them to John 17:5: "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." If Jesus or the Son only came into existence when He was born by Mary, how could he have had glory WITH the Father before the world began? This is unanswerable for them.
Brother Keith, when he spoke about John 11 did not and I don’t know if it was purposely didn’t finish. The verse in the beginning was the word and he didn’t say and the word was with God and the word was God yes, the word proceeded from the father And I think that’s where he’s getting confused because in John 11 it says the word is gone and we know the word proceeds from the father, but the word here is a person it’s separate from the father even though it is of the father who is God, but there is no Christian doctrine unless he’s been around Mormons, who are not Christianthat the father the word and the spirit are all separate deities. That’s Mormon theology.
I didn't get a chance to chat with you. I was waiting but had to go. Would love to chat about the "trinity" vs "oneness". A great scripture to discuss is Matthew 28:19
While we are told to die to the flesh... as a representative of someone that presents Himself as doing the work....He let the Flesh die. Now the Son (God IN Flesh) God with us... did die. The Spirit returned to the Source (The Father) The Son took the sin of the world upon Himself and knows best how to deal with it. A selfishness we as humans could not fully comprehend....but are encouraged to fully embrace. The Father didn't die on the cross...but the Son did...but only for a time... 3 days later (on the 3rd day) Sin was defeated and so was death...for Him. As the first Fruit. I've had fun with oneness theology only to mock it...but I know that this approach often makes people think I'm not speaking in truth and love. I know I'm not a fan of TULIP system either.... Lots of interpretations out there...when Jesus said there is only one way... Thanks for what you're doing! God's Only Son Permits Eternal Life! 😇🙏💪
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂 “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John ( Hamza’s dad) Hamza Ali Dawah Mosa Adnan Ali Dawah Sheik Muslim Lantern The three Muslim Central Dawah Isa Dawah Sheik Uthman Deen respond Ramzi (Dawah over Dunia) Mustafa (Stratford england0 Siraj (Speaker’s corner) Mansor (Speaker’s corner) Muslim Cowboy And others, on top, most of these conversations is Godlogic going to their platform! So Muslim need to stop asking why Godlogic doesn’t debate their best, unless they believe all those named above a clueless. How about telling their Dawah big guys to come to speak to Godlogic? His been to theirs many times. People like Jake, Farid and Abdul Response rather than making video reacting to Godlogic with their weak objections so the can views and money from Godlogics name, tell them to come on speak to him!
1st caller was speaking low cos he's called before and you kicked him because of his dishonesty and arrogance. He created a new account to come back...
This verse can answer both Muslims and nontrinitarians Philippians 2:5-8 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature[b] of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! Here it says that Jesus has Gods nature and that he humbled himself.
Please correct me if I'm wrong... In Genesis 2:27 God created in his own image man, both male & female on the 6th day. Remember this 'man' was not Adam, but the Heavenly host (or angels). The Adam creation was AFTER the 6th day creation ( however long that may have been) and after God had taken rest from his creation on the 7th day So the Image of God might not be our understanding of earthly man.. but angelic beings.. both male and female
The 1st caller and his appeal to the Jews. Dude the 1st Christians were all Jews. We have the Jewish interpretation which is a Christian interpretation.
Why three? How could God love, have mercy or just about any other characteristic like that be able to have love BEFORE creation? It's because He existed as three persons that he was able to have love and be loving towards those other two persons.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls “But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
That Jewish lady needs to learn to remain quiet when she asks a question and the person asked us responding. If you're only interested in hearing yourself speak, you can do that without entering a platform like this.
Oneness Theology falls flat in their own mess. [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. -Psalms 110:1 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. -Matthew 11:25
Three on John 17 is it to the advantage of anyone other than the Christian why because what is a conjunction the same verse exist in surah 931 they took their monks and priest as God instead of Allah and the Messiah. The word in Arabic is the same conjunction in John 17 three it combinesthe two together.
That elderly man was just plain ignorant ; both about what he believes AND what he thinks we believe. First he said we believe in three gods. Then he said we believe (correctly) that there is one God existing as three persons ; while saying that's NOT correct because it's actually one God existing as three "beings". He's either truly ignorant and uninformed or simply under educated with regard to the English language.
Isaiah 48:16; John 1:1-2(Father, Son, Holy Spirit); Revelation 22:1-2….. all 3 scriptures show and Confirm 1 John 5:7(KJV). They are 3 separate entities. Elohiym is plural. Elohiym is a title not their names.
Man is made up of the flesh, the spirit, and the mind. Each one is distinct in features and functions, yet it functions as one. Similar, not the same, but similar is the concept of the trium god, probably why God said "let us made man in our own image".
My journey to Christ started October 7th 2023. I wasn’t looking for God, I definitely didn’t go looking for Jesus I thought he was only a man. I was lead to Him through things I was naturally interested in. Things like history, truth, debates, intelligence. I thanks God He lead me to Jesus Christ 🎉
God's sovereignty ❤️
God bless you! Hallelujah! Amen!
I was searching for God but Jesus touched my heart, literally, and I KNEW it was Him, and I have not been the same since. This was Spring 2023 while I was sleeping. I’m so in love with Jesus, I don’t know how I’ve lived my life without knowing Him. God bless you, and praise our almighty LORD for drawing us to Him!
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@@s.d.melcher amen 🙏🏾
God bless my brother .. our stories are so relatable.. wish you the best🫡
@@warrenstarrii1098 the truth shall make you free from the trinitarian idealogy..!
Avery, your patience and dedication are amazing. You truly love your lost Muslim brothers and sisters. Someday our Lord will say to you: "Well done, good and faithful servant!"
Please keep trying to get Sam Shamounian to extend his fuse before he throws out insults.
I know he knows all this already but hearing you talk to that Jew Athiest guest was so warming and insightful. Sam is missing out on these interactions as well because not everybody is an adversary. Who wants be insulted when they ask questions to test whether the answers you give stand on solid foundation.
Also, the audience doesn't always want to hear mothers and muta every 30 secs. Sometimes it's necessary however it's to the detriment of the listening and knowledge intake.
God bless Avery Godlogic
1st caller said the Jews didnt associate partner with God... Didnt dumb momo said in the quran that the jews said Ezra is the Son of Allah? Thats not associating partner? 😅
They are just plain fools..They really think the world is stupid...😂
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That's what happens to their brain when they follow the semen covered pedophet.
Look how he destroyed his prophet
@@psykevactive9114Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😅
We believe in ONE God, the Father, the Son ,the Holy Spirit,
Bible did told us that God can transform n talk or speak to us ..
At OT ...God review to Abraham, Jacob , the KING of Mickelcidek , God speak to Moses in form of fire, cloud. OT God make closer to us by transformed itself to man Jesus Christ n live to us...later God did promised never leave us but His Holy spirit will stay with us forever as long as we believe in HIM
When someone says "I'm not religious I'm spiritual" all I hear is "I'm a narcissist"
What I hear when somebody says that they are spiritual all I hear is witchcraft
@joshuasykes1929 nah only once they start asking me about star signs and talking about the healing power of quarts do I attribute witchcraft to them mentally ahaha. When they just blanket say "spiritual" I assume it's just the lazy new age hippy self love mindset. But I feel you
@joshuasykes1929 either way it's satanic
I have outmost respect for you Avery, your patient dealing with stupidity is TOTALLY unmatched. Thanks Almighty God I am not a Muhammadan
Muslim logic -
The Bible is not trustworthy, but a PDF file is. 🙃
Died 😂😂😂😂😂😂
OUR BIBLE , OH OUR BIBLE
YOU , WE LOVE SO MUCH
YOU ARE THE BOOK OF BOOKS
A WONDERFUL LOVE LETTER FROM GOD
A LIGHT ON OUR PATH IN THIS DARK WORLD
YOU ARE A GUIDE AND TEACHER FOR US
OH , BIBLE BOOK SO SWEET AND GLORIOUS.
Wrong, the Quran is the book of the devil
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this wonderful podcast it has been a complete blessing to me.
Hi Kelvin. I am here because of your discussion at Smart Christian Channel with Corey. I started really watching your channel recently and I am enjoying it. Thank you Jesus for leading me to your channel. God bless!!!❤❤
I thank the almighty God for your knowledge and I pray for more wisdom on you brother Avery.
Logic. Logic. Logic. Love it! Praise the Lord.
Kelvin is not a trinitarian. He seems to hold to an Arian view of God where the Son and the Spirit are emanations of the Father and derive their deity from Him. That's heresy.
@@slash903 it seemed like he went back and forth on them being Persons and emanations. He’s confused
@Kelvin is not confused. That is the level of his understanding. He does not reject the trinity per se. Most Christians are where he is. He just doesn’t understand it to the level Godlogic does. Nothing he said was a lie.
It is so painful listening to these clowns who panic and refuse to answer the simplest most direct possible questions.
The guy at the end, Avery asks, What dd I say. First words of his answer..........I said
Demonic stupidity, demonic dishonesty, demonic ignorance.
Pray for these lost souls.
God bless you Avery.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
45:00 this oneness idea, never heard of it explained but he’s got me having to build a whole separate arsenal. Been focusing on JWs Mormonism, and Islam, whew! Taking notes Avery, taking notes!
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
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1. Moses said it, not God.
2. The Hebrew says young women
3. Nothing in this verse mentions rape not is it implied. Rape was a sin deserving of death. Dt. 22:25
1:06:50 “Monarchical Trinitarianism, also referred to as the “Monarchy of the Father,” is a theological perspective that asserts the Father as the sole source (or monarch) within the Trinity. This view maintains a clear distinction of roles among the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit while upholding their unity in essence.” …. Luke J. Wilson
There was a time that I didn’t like using the word, “Trinity” and that was exactly how I described the Godhead,
I believe “Monarchical Trinity” would help non-believers to understand the divinity of The Son very easily.
I was going to comment this for the benefit of everyone who’s listening.
I believe this is the most accurate description of what the Bible teaches.
As we are created in God's image, in his likeness, we have the quality of being alike in attitude, character, and action.
"I and my father are one" -Jesus
There are three who bear witness in heaven. The FATHER, The WORD, and THE HOLY GHOST.
@@Jackson-kq4ro finish the verse
@@Jackson-kq4rofinish the verse
@@Jackson-kq4ro that simply means in one accord. When the Bible says a man and a woman are one when they get married does that magically make them the same person no it doesn’t. It simply means works as one toward the same goal or having the same mindset.
@Rj-wy8nk
The Word is God made flesh. The Father is just a Spirit. The HOLY GHOST is the divine Spirit who proceeds from the Father.
Therefore because the Father is not Flesh but a Spirit, The WORD is not just Spirit but also flesh, and The Spirit is the divine Spirit who comes forth from the Father making The Father, The WORD, and the Spirit three distinct persons who make up this ONE being who we call God. Which the Bible says are ONE. Look at the word "ONE" in the context of plurality and distinction.
Bob of Speakers Corner used a good Trinity analogy that I find the easiest to remember and use in debates.
The eternal lake on a mountain. A stream flows out from the lake down one side of the mountain, and another stream flows out the other side. The lake is the Father, two streams are Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
This is a clear picture of how the three distinct persons all share the same divine essence.
The Father stays in heaven, Jesus and the Holy Spirit go out into the world.
It's a crying shame and an embarrassment that Avery has to not only explain their religion but, is also tasked with explaining the English language to someone who sounds as if English is their first language...🙄
Great stream, brother. I think some sound proof foam on the walls and rug/carpet on your floor would greatly improve the audio.
You are doing Gods work. Stay safe!
I like Kelvin Greene and that’s how I explain the Godhead to people to understand it better.
That is, The Father is God, however, His Word came out of His being Who is The Son Who became Flesh (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father.
@edward1412
Either way, that's a Trinity. However, I'm not sure that this as clear-cut as that. I'm not so sure that The Son literally came forth from the Father's being. If this is true then wouldn't that mean that there was a time in eternity past when Christ wasn't a distinct personality? If you say yes than that's not scriptural. Its An honest question.
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I understand your question perfectly and at times I ask myself the same question.
This is why some believe that the Father begot the Son from Eternity past. I’m not sure if that means The Son has always being distinct from The Father from eternity or there was a time that The Word and The Spirit were alive together within The Father’s being until The Father revealed them where we got the distinctiveness.
This might be a bad example, but it’s like how I’ve a body, soul and spirit which makes me as one being but later I revealed my spirit and my soul out from my being for them to become distinct from me.
Godlogic, regarding the guy who brought the issue of Jesus "serving" His Father forever, I think you did extremely well in answering. Your answers were truly inspired. Praise the LORD.
Are the Muslims okay that Jesus prayed without ablution (wudu)?
Ahhhh I need to be on thisss one 🤣, hoping you do this next Wednesday
Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
Dude asked to go to Romans 1 just to flame himself 😂😂
I HAVE never had an issue with the trininty because there is no limits to God i thank God that i dont have to comprehend everything when you realise faith is enough otherwise God would only call the smart people these callers express such religous arrogance that wont get them anywhere 🤣
Best one I’ve ever seen xx
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I can see where he is coming from. A lot of well meaning people may speak incorrectly or understand incorrectly. The trinity is a very complicated concept. We all start lost.
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Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂
1 God, his Word, and his Spirit!!! I agree and I'm Muslim!!!
I'll be reaching out my brother😊
You agree because you’re a Muslim. It’s because you want a God that you can wrap your head around. The beauty of the trinity is that it reflects how God is-not to be 100% understood.
@@jamesjones11301994Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
@luqmanmuhammad802 "1 God, his Word and his Spirit! I agree and I am Muslim" - Do you agree that the Word and the Holy Spirit are distinct persons from the father?.
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You can't agree with that and be a true Muslim. You're a trinitarian Muslim.
So, you commit shirk
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Avery, David, Michael AP, all together?
Man it will be great.
GOD bless you all.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
John 17:3 needs to be read in context to fully appreciate what Jesus was saying in that prayer. The contrast is not between the Father and the Son but between the Father and the world’s false gods and idols. Jesus is conversing with the Father who is in heaven while Jesus is on earth. Jesus’ statement that the Father is the only true God should not be seen as contradictory or inconsistent with the whole of the Bible, which supports the fact Jesus Christ is God.
Grasping a straws you are .
Your arguement is a false equivalence arguement.
Jesus never says he is God , there are verses you claim he's claiming he's God big difference.
Most of them are interpreted that way because you guys like the Pharisees make the same mistake.
For eg.
John 8 vs 58
Joh 8:58 AKJV Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am.
On the surface ripped from it context it sounds like it says that
But Jesus is replying to the question(s) from john 8vs 53.
Joh 8:53 AKJV Are you greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom make you yourself?
Was Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham and the Prophets??
Yes he was , he was not saying he was God.
Tell me something cam God be tempted by evil and sin?
No he cannot james 1 vs 13 makes that very clear.
Jas 1:13 AKJV+ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man:
Jas 1:14 AKJV+ But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jesus was tempted in all points as we are , in fact he suffered temptation as is shown in heb 2 vs 17 -18.
Therefore Jesus is not God.
That's how you back up an arguement, not make a whole lot of statements and claims and never show the from the #1 authority your reasoning.
You never backed up your reasoning from scripture.
@@brettmciver432 you are a blind man who claims he can see.
The proper definition, I think, is:
One God, His Word, and His Spirit. He, as the source, assumes the Father persona and His word assumes the Son persona, while his Holy Spirit assumes the Spirit persona as revealed in God's dealings and interaction with mankind.
Nah that would imply they're ontologically separate and that the word only came to be when the father spoke it .
They aren't separate Jesus says that him and his father are one.
Also the word cannot be made Because everything that was made was made through the word . John 1:3
So if the word was made the word would have to be made through itself because it says everything that was made was made through the word.
يسوع المسيح هو الله ❤ هو رب الكون خالق الكون
الملعون في الكتاب المقدس
@@abdorahim6435Cursed because you ARE cursed!!! He died because you are DEAD
@tiwanstrong1413 Jesus who is your God is cursed in your book. But I am not cursed because I am a Muslim.🤣
@abdorahim6435 that's exactly why you are cursed because you are a Muslim
Avery congratulations on your channel growing, can't wait for Friday's stream having DW, IP and AP on the channel. None of the Dawah boys will answer the challenge.
The second Muslim caller does not understand that the word "only" modifies "true God" and as a Trinitarian I do believe that the father is the only true God (because there are no other gods) however this does not exclude the deity of the Son or the Holy Spirit. This means that for me as a trinitarian the Son is the only true God, and it would be true of the Holy Spirit as well. This is because all three persons of the trinity is the only true God.
The Muslim would have had an argument is Jesus had said that the Father alone is the only true God that would have excluded the Son and the Holy Spirit. But since Jesus said the father is the only true God it simply means that Jesus recognizes the deity of the father.
Kelvin Greene is incorrect in his assertion that Trinitarians believe in 3 gods, however it does seem that he himself is a monarchial trinitarian.
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
I'm a (prot Christian), I pray exactly like Jesus:
1. To our Father
2. Standing
3. Looking up
4. Laying face down
5. Lifting up my hands
Run from Mo. Come to Jesus, the one who loves you even when you deny him.
God creating the world through flesh and Jesus was an idea is crazy talk. Also how can Jesus be the Father if the Father calls him his son?
He is WRONG I'm 63 years old and I've NEVER known a Christian to say "three gods" He is WRONG.
Awesome stream
person- an individual substance of a rational nature… the day avery gets the philosophy and metaphysics down will be a DARK day for the heretics 🤣😭
Fahrid responds; never responds. The irony.
he needs to change his name.
Jesus does say the Father is the true God but he also says believe in you the only true God AND Jesus Christ whom you have sent. It’s inclusive speech, incorporating the Father and Jesus under the title of ‘only true God’
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
@ that has nothing to do with my point.
So since you have not dealt with my point I’ll assume you cannot so in the case of that verse it is clear in John that Jesus is saying the true God is the Father and the Son.
I might have to pull up for the Friday show.👀📝📝📝
@Avery Romans 12:12 you are, as much as in you is, living out " The Word" in these interactions. Continue to let Jesus lead you.
God has never been without his Word and has never been without his Spirit. They are one in nature "made of the same Godly material so to speak" Everything was created through his Word.
I have reached the point where I just skip the parts where the trinity is the subject. It is tiring to hear a clear explanation supported by cited biblical verses that can’t be taken out of context and people still don’t understand or they understand and still reject it.
Bible does say, "Ever learning. Never coming to the knowledge of truth."
@Avery: 1 John 2:20-24 & Hebr. 1:5-8, for those who continue to deny The Triune God and the fullness of the Godhead.
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The Father who is Jesus. Sent his son who is Jesus. And Jesus who is the father did the will of his father. Then the father sent Jesus who is also the father the Holy Spirit who is also the father to dwell in the believers. So the Father sends the Father to do the will of the Father and the Father sends the Father and he will only do what he hears from the father. And oneness is true but at Jesus baptism it was the father who is the dove who came down on Jesus who is the father and the father spoke also to the father saying that is his son and he is well pleased.
There I explained oneness theology for anyone who doesn’t understand.
@@kennynoNope literally that’s what they believe
this is an explanation for Muslims and Unitarians. According to the Bible, GOD can be defined as a divine being who is characterized as three distinct persons interdependent on each other who belong to the same divine beings. For example, let's assume that God is an equilateral triangle (triangle with all equal sides) if we remove one side from that triangle, we can no longer say that it is a triangle. So the triangle (God) is made up of three sides. side one (god the father) side two (god the son jesus) side three (god the holy spirit) and if we eliminate one side we can no longer call it a triangle. and when we refer to the first side of the triangle (god the father) we eliminate the word triangle (god) we only leave the word side (father)
I’m glad you let old skoo speak, he wanted to get that off his chest
The best way for me to explain the trinity is the water analogy. There's different states of water theres liquid , ice and vapor/ steam/gas and they all have a different purpose. You can drink the liquid form, use the solid form to make a drink colder or you can steam for cooking or heating. So the liquid state isnt solid or gas, the gas state isn't solid or luiquid and the solid state isnt gas or liquid but they all come from a luquid state.
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Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
1:17:12 mark. I have to correct you on that one brother. Some trinitarians do teach that they are 3 separate persons. That's what I've been taught my whole life. And I didn't know until recently that Jesus is God because of that kind of teaching....I had no idea. So yes..there are some who do teach 3 Gods without coming right out and saying 3 Gods. If you separate them then you have 3. I now believe they are 3 in 1, not as the oneness teach but as you are teaching. They are distict but not separate.
Trinity
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🖼️Jesus
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Just like this
☪️Penislam makes the most sense. Alhamdulipoo
Just in case you want to expound on this more. Augustine wrote, "The Father is the only true God in the sense that He is the source of divinity, and the Son, who is begotten from the Father, is also truly God, as He shares the Father’s essence." This aligns with his doctrine of the consubstantiality (same substance) of the Father and the Son.
I've checked and most of the church fathers held this view. Well, I say most, but all the ones I checked said i'm just leaving a possibility that someone had a different view, but I did not see that different view.
In the Gospel of Matthew 28 verse 62 The High Priest charged Jesus to tell them whether He was The Son of God which means they knew that God has a Son .
Good point. Of course, Proverbs 30:4 says as much.
Hey Logic, I spent most of my life in Oneness Theology. Next time you get one of these guys, take them to John 17:5: "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."
If Jesus or the Son only came into existence when He was born by Mary, how could he have had glory WITH the Father before the world began?
This is unanswerable for them.
Could you do this on a coloring page around an illustration?
Brother Keith, when he spoke about John 11 did not and I don’t know if it was purposely didn’t finish. The verse in the beginning was the word and he didn’t say and the word was with God and the word was God yes, the word proceeded from the father And I think that’s where he’s getting confused because in John 11 it says the word is gone and we know the word proceeds from the father, but the word here is a person it’s separate from the father even though it is of the father who is God, but there is no Christian doctrine unless he’s been around Mormons, who are not Christianthat the father the word and the spirit are all separate deities. That’s Mormon theology.
2:03:16
Can someone tell to the Jewish woman David Wood has a Jewish background, and he is a Christian?
I didn't get a chance to chat with you. I was waiting but had to go. Would love to chat about the "trinity" vs "oneness".
A great scripture to discuss is Matthew 28:19
King James is meant to weed out those who speak for themselves, not the scripture provided
Isaiah 9:6
John 1
john 10:30
1 John 5:7
Deuteronomy 6 : 4
Ephesians 4 : 4-6
1 Corinthians 12:5-6
1 Timothy 3 : 16
Matthew 1 : 23
Matthew 28 :17- 18
While we are told to die to the flesh... as a representative of someone that presents Himself as doing the work....He let the Flesh die.
Now the Son (God IN Flesh) God with us... did die. The Spirit returned to the Source (The Father)
The Son took the sin of the world upon Himself and knows best how to deal with it. A selfishness we as humans could not fully comprehend....but are encouraged to fully embrace.
The Father didn't die on the cross...but the Son did...but only for a time... 3 days later (on the 3rd day) Sin was defeated and so was death...for Him. As the first Fruit.
I've had fun with oneness theology only to mock it...but I know that this approach often makes people think I'm not speaking in truth and love.
I know I'm not a fan of TULIP system either....
Lots of interpretations out there...when Jesus said there is only one way...
Thanks for what you're doing!
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Your God commanded the rape of young girls😂😂😂
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)
45:34 HILARIOUS 😂😂😂 and their are actually some christians that would take the king james version over the actual greek. That's how dense they are.
I've met Christians who literally worship the KJV. When I refer them to the Hebrew Tanakh or Greek NT, they actually get upset.
@mysotiras21 Absolute donoughts.
So... According to your question, yes Jesus is God according to the biblical scriptures.
Isaiah 9:6 father of eternity or everlasting father coincides with john 17:2 Father God gave authority to Jesus over eternity
John ( Hamza’s dad)
Hamza
Ali Dawah
Mosa Adnan
Ali Dawah Sheik
Muslim Lantern
The three Muslim
Central Dawah
Isa Dawah
Sheik Uthman
Deen respond
Ramzi (Dawah over Dunia)
Mustafa (Stratford england0
Siraj (Speaker’s corner)
Mansor (Speaker’s corner)
Muslim Cowboy
And others, on top, most of these conversations is Godlogic going to their platform!
So Muslim need to stop asking why Godlogic doesn’t debate their best, unless they believe all those named above a clueless.
How about telling their Dawah big guys to come to speak to Godlogic? His been to theirs many times. People like Jake, Farid and
Abdul Response rather than making video reacting to Godlogic with their weak objections so the can views and money from Godlogics name, tell them to come on speak to him!
Yea, and he even requests them every stream, but as expected they dont ever join
1st caller was speaking low cos he's called before and you kicked him because of his dishonesty and arrogance. He created a new account to come back...
Starting at 56:06 Kelvin sounds a lot like Denzel Washington... Can I get a witness??
Hit those 👍
lol GL You messed his head up lol
This verse can answer both Muslims and nontrinitarians
Philippians 2:5-8
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death-
even death on a cross!
Here it says that Jesus has Gods nature and that he humbled himself.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...
In Genesis 2:27 God created in his own image man, both male & female on the 6th day.
Remember this 'man' was not Adam, but the Heavenly host (or angels).
The Adam creation was AFTER the 6th day creation ( however long that may have been) and after God had taken rest from his creation on the 7th day
So the Image of God might not be our understanding of earthly man.. but angelic beings.. both male and female
THEY @RE DOING THE OPPOSITE
The 1st caller and his appeal to the Jews. Dude the 1st Christians were all Jews. We have the Jewish interpretation which is a Christian interpretation.
Why three?
How could God love, have mercy or just about any other characteristic like that be able to have love BEFORE creation? It's because He existed as three persons that he was able to have love and be loving towards those other two persons.
Hahahs "You inderstand the God of Davis morw than David does"
GL you should’ve ended the only guy way sooner 😂
2:41:33
Unitarian, you mention verse 4 of 110 psalm but you didn't read verse 1?
Is there any logic?
Avery idk how you deal with these knuckleheads. Some of them say some of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. God bless you and give you patience 🙏
Your God commanded the rape of young girls
“But all the little girls of the women who have not known lying with a male, you shall keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:18)😂😂😂
Kelvin says there is a required faith. But where is faith in heresy?
That Jewish lady needs to learn to remain quiet when she asks a question and the person asked us responding. If you're only interested in hearing yourself speak, you can do that without entering a platform like this.
Oneness Theology falls flat in their own mess.
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. -Psalms 110:1
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. -Matthew 11:25
You mixed up comprehend and apprehend. Comprehend means to get some of. Apprehend means to fully capture (like you apprehend a criminal).
Three on John 17 is it to the advantage of anyone other than the Christian why because what is a conjunction the same verse exist in surah 931 they took their monks and priest as God instead of Allah and the Messiah. The word in Arabic is the same conjunction in John 17 three it combinesthe two together.
That elderly man was just plain ignorant ; both about what he believes AND what he thinks we believe. First he said we believe in three gods. Then he said we believe (correctly) that there is one God existing as three persons ; while saying that's NOT correct because it's actually one God existing as three "beings". He's either truly ignorant and uninformed or simply under educated with regard to the English language.
I was on the live stream on RUclips but I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't comment
Now, I hope you a subscriber 😊
He believe in triune god but he is not trinitarian im confused 😅
He just doesn’t want to use the word, “Trinity.” I used to be one some few years ago although I believed The Son was (still is) God.
Isaiah 48:16; John 1:1-2(Father, Son, Holy Spirit); Revelation 22:1-2….. all 3 scriptures show and Confirm 1 John 5:7(KJV).
They are 3 separate entities. Elohiym is plural.
Elohiym is a title not their names.
Man is made up of the flesh, the spirit, and the mind. Each one is distinct in features and functions, yet it functions as one. Similar, not the same, but similar is the concept of the trium god, probably why God said "let us made man in our own image".
Silly man....there's zero difference between "triune" and "trinity". There's not a single thing about trinity that equals three gods.
Kelvin sounds like a cross between Modalism and Trinitaŕianism. Sounds a bit confused there. May YaH bring him clarity🙏🏽
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