If I don't understand this truth (God's unconditional love for me) I will always be focusing on "getting better" and sinning less instead of resting in the love of Father God, and experience his kindness and care through life's ups and downs.
That’s a Christian doctrine problem. It does not allow God’s love to be unconditional. The condition is always going to be “you must have faith or God rejects you” & then Christian doctrine tells you all the things you must be doing to prove your faith is real. So God’s love always depends on your faith, your obedience & then there’s this threat of eternal hell looming over you just to remind you that God can at any moment make things go really bad for you if you aren’t perfectly indoctrinated & obeying God’s doctrine perfectly. No savior, no grace, no love, no peace, no freedom because conditional salvation, conditional grace, conditional love, conditional peace, conditional freedom is no salvation, no grace, no love, no peace, no freedom. Take away all conditions & now you have salvation that depends on the Savior, now you have love that depends on God being love, now you have peace that depends on the blood of His cross, now you have freedom because nothing can separate you from this unconditional love. A gift by definition must have no conditions or it’s not a gift. Salvation is a gift, righteousness is a gift, eternal life is a gift, the Holy Spirit is a gift. Condemn others for not meeting your Christian doctrine & you condemn yourself. The only way to remove all condemnation for all time is to remove all conditions by allowing Jesus to be the unconditional Savior of all men. Conditional salvation is no salvation. For freedom Christ set us free. He gives us rest & peace because He did what we could not & were not created to do.
@@Irina_00 yes, faith comes by hearing the word of God. Faith doesn’t come from us. God made a promise & Abraham knew God cannot lie so Abraham was FORCED to believe God. It is God’s word that carries the faith. “By grace are you saved through faith & that not of yourselves it is the gift of God not of works so no man can boast.” Or another way to say it is faithfulness (knowing God is faithful to keep His word). To make it even more clear that salvation depends on God’s promise & not our faith, but His faithfulness to keep His promise, we have Romans 9-11. According to the scriptures all of the unbelieving Jews who rejected Jesus will be saved (Romans 11:25-29) because salvation is not of the will of man, it is a promise God made to Abraham & God will keep His promise. “Not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.” He will have mercy on whom He wills & God wills all men to be saved & to come to the knowledge of truth. God is not willing that any perish but that all come to repentance. It is the kindness of God that leads men to repentance. In other words, because God is always kind & never changes God is always leading us to repentance. Grace teaches us how to live godly, so without grace no one can live godly. Grace & truth came through Jesus Christ. We are godly not because we do not sin, but because we do not hold sins against others, but forgive sins just as God has forgiven our sins for the sake of Christ. We cover sins with love. Jesus desired mercy & not sacrifice because they were switching to the law of liberty & would no longer be under the law of Moses. Since there is no more sacrifice for sins left (Jesus being the final sacrifice to put away all sin forever) the only option is to show mercy. The only option is grace. If you sinned under the law of Moses you did not need the mercy of the one you sinned against, you just needed an animal sacrifice. James 2 describes this. Mercy triumphs over judgement. If you don’t show mercy you are in essence withholding mercy from yourself & making things more difficult on yourself. You are trampling underfoot the Son of God every time you hold sins against a person because Jesus took away the sin of the world. God does not see us according to the flesh (Christian, Catholic, Hindu, Muslim, atheist, LGBTQ) God lives by the Spirit of truth so He sees the truth about us-we are perfectly righteous in Jesus who is the head of EVERY man. “Putting away all lying, speak the truth to your neighbor, for we are members of the same body.” - Ephesians 4:25 “For there is 1 God & Father of us all, who is above all, through all, and in all.” - Ephesians 4:6 When God says in Hebrews 8 “All shall know Me for I will be merciful to their unrighteousness & their sins & lawless deeds I will remember no more” God actually means what He says. This is the new covenant we are under. So if we want to live by the rules of the New Covenant, then we should likewise be merciful to unrighteousness & remember sins & lawless deeds no more. No man has ever hated his own flesh but nourishes & cherishes it. We need to realize every person on earth is bone of our bones & flesh of our flesh. We are all one body. This is why Jesus tells us to love everyone. “Even the sinner loves those who love them.” What Christianity has done is reduced God to a sinner who only loves those who love Him & is only kind to the good (but Jesus says God is kind to the ungrateful & wicked). We love Him because He first loved us & He demonstrated His love for us by sending Jesus to die for us while we were ALL sinners. God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD to Himself. We are simply ministers of reconciliation, telling people the good news that God saved us & loves us unconditionally for all of eternity. So they can have peace like we are supposed to have. But we can’t have peace if we still think God is against us & imputing sins to us (He isn’t & He hasn’t for nearly 2,000 years-where there is no law sin is not imputed).
I struggle with the Father's love in that I often feel that I shouldn't expect something wonderful and permanent to happen without there being some form of disappointment to occur later. It's hard to recieve that I can even be loved by a true man of God. I'm struggling and it hurts to receive his love because i don't understand it's permanence.
I understand what you're saying. I am glad that you jumped into our podcast series here on Exposing the Rejection Mindset, as this series helps to unravel the struggle we have to connect to the Father's love for us. If you want to go further, I encourage you to get a copy of the book.
My mom and dad didn't talk about their brokenness either. Will God heal my brokenness. Can I learn to accept His love and apply it to my mind regularly
This just completely opened the eyes of my understanding, and set me free from wrong thinking and strongholds that have been over me since my adolescence. Wow! I have been on a relentless pursuit to understand God's love, and not only understand, but have an encounter with Him that will totally change me, and bring me closer to Him. God bless your ministry. You two are amazing and are great teachers!
Hey this is really good and really important. I’m a 60 year old Christian man and I really need and value what you’ve done here. Thank you very much! Great work.
I, think one of the best gift i gut early in my christian life, i learned from Leanne Payne, to small talk to God as if He is there what He is, He is inside me by the Spirit and i never feel after God i know He allways present, He never leaves me ore forsake. I just talk to God all day long about every thing, hope this will help some one. Gods peace to all
I got a message from the Spirit about 10 days ago: “You need to stop being so mean to yourself!” I’ve been studying self-hate, self-loathing, and starting to love myself!! Thx for your program. It’s helpful.
I'm totally having my spiritual awakening. Thank you for putting into words what I've been feeling for decades. I'm 39 and I'm finally truly feeling God's love. I grew up in a "religious culture" so I never really 'felt' anything that felt like God's love. On top of being abused as a kid and then spending the early adult years being blinded by my trauma. I didn't feel God's love and I didn't feel anyones love in the flesh. But I finally feel it and I'm so proud to have an opportunity to create the positive God loving space for my kids now although one is an adult and living where I was when I was his age. But I've been praying for him and I know that he'll get the love he needs from God. Thank you so much for sharing this. I don't have the words to express the gratitude I have for you both.
God sent me to you channel and I bless you both for the work you're doing. I didn't know how jacked up I really was, but was getting clues from the other people in my life who accused me of being "intense" and "a good talker." I can see that they have their own stuff and are human, so I can begin to forgive them, but now I have a pathway to begin learning how to Love God as a father. Now I know why I've been single until now (51 yrs). I pray that I will be able to receive His love. I don't want to be single any more, but believe that if I can finally connect to Him and learn to love and be loved by Him, that I may be able to fight the good fight alone until I die and not suffer horribly while I work for Him.
Oh my goodness that's me. If I like something or enjoy something I feel like God wants me to give it up. And then I feel very holy and special if I do.... Because I am such an obedient child.
Wow. I love Jesus always have as long as I remember. But I remember someone telling me when I was young, Jesus doesn't love bad little girls. That followed me. Now at almost 70 it still follows me.
@godsdaughter1954 It's so sad that words and phrases impress like a hot iron on our minds as children. Mom told me when I was three years old that nobody wanted to hear what I had to say. Although she brought me to a backroom to tell me that because I was prattling away to her company, it scorched like a flame down to my core for some reason. 60 yrs old now and it still is there. I didn't deal with that til recently!!!!
I am a disabled army veteran, and have experienced God in my youth, I lived a life most others haven't, I was born in Los Angeles General hospital, my parents were young and were fighting, they were married but ignored giving me a name, and in fact some time when they brought me home they fought again and I was injured as a new born, ...so with no name on my birth certificate and being injured, ,and abandoned at grade school age, I grew up in gang areas and culture, I saw my first killing at age 5 or 6, and I often would make efforts to spend time with God in a catholic church, by the time I was in 5th grade I thought I was to old and life had passed me by, seriously, I still tried to learn and pray, at some point in high school they realized I was homeless and places me in foster home, I graduated early from high school and went to Pasadena city college for the summer, later joined the usa army! Thinking I needed discipline and to serve and to be a better servant to Jesus! ...basically through the years I have made it, but now at age 54 last few years I have been in very deep struggle with faith! .....other tragedies of death hit me hard, but for some reason I had this dog for the fist time, and named the dog eden! Maybe its what I always desired, and she died this year at age 4 and half! And it crushed me! I have not been able to recover from the loss of my dog! It feels like everything from the past cought up to me, and I can't it ! So please pray for me! Thank you and keep up the good works!
Thank you for sharing your story. My heart aches for you for all of the love that God longed to give you but that you did not receive. I am so sorry for such difficult beginnings to your life and I am not surprised that it is now finally catching up with you and manifesting through your struggle to get over the loss of your dog. Please know that God is with you and has always been with you loving you. May you now be able to rest in it! I am praying for your healing.
I know this happened 3 yrs ago, however, you have been through soooooo much. Thats why God loves you sooooooooo much. To lose a dog is horrible. I know so well. Iam,ugh older than you. When our dog died, I would cry for months . I would regret every little thing I could have done to make her life better. As a USMC combat vet. Vietnam, ( told you I was old) death was a horrible thought always. Thus when "muffin died" the permanence of the loss was great. I am now a Born Again Christian and strive to focus on God's love in a painful world. At times it is not easy. Wish you the best.
The mode of operation with my father was extreme abuse and fear hence I struggle to receive love sometimes as I don't understand what love looks like. I fear my dad so much and sometimes this translates to how I see God sometimes ... 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of FEAR, but of POWER and of LOVE and of a SOUND MIND. Now looking at this scripture tells me God my Father Loves me.
Phew, a year later, I realized that it was the devil that does the spirit of fear since the Lord said he hasn't given us the spirit of fear and if so then who did? "the devil" I resisted so hard with prayer every midnight till he fled from me .Now, that I have the spirit of Confidence now in the Lord. so no more fear .. my motto is faith over fear no matter what.... all glory be to God.
This is my history. My father raised me in fear. E I've been born again for over 30 years and I still cannot comprehend God's love and have no idea how to accept it. It's been frustrating and I've been praying for years. I'm praying that this video will be one of the stepping stones that breaks me out of this bondage. I haven't watched it yet but I'm starting right now. I pray that you are moving forward with God as He encourages you with His love. 🥰⚘️🙌
Thank you Mark and Melissa for this. Such an eye opening blessing to me, after 43 years of agony trying to find my way to a fruitful relationship connection to God. I’ve been trying to force myself to spend time with God more than just you know listening to scripture or listening testimonials, but I’m very frustrated because I often leave this prayer time feeling empty and unconnected. And then I yell and scream and cry and say “I can’t feel your love I don’t know how to get food I’m dyin here!”
You just spoke my life, "if I liked a Avenue that brought me enjoyment, I have to give it up". I gave up video games but I know God now wants me to be happy and enjoy video games.
Some things we should be careful with… video games in moderation is okay but if it becomes an addiction then that is an issue. An addiction would be spending 4 hours or more on it per day
Hey guys, thank you so much for this, glory to God for introducing me to this channel. I have been struggling so much with feeling God's love and He just never ceases to amaze me, right after I wept and begged Him to help me I watched episode 1 of this season and felt encouraged, then I went to your site and read your story and I am so grateful, words cannot begin to describe how I feel. I can only give thanks to God and pray he blesses you guys abundantly!
Wow! I sat here with tears streaming down as you shared. This is not 'new' information to me. I have been on a journey for most of my life it seems to be free to receive God's love & to accept & love myself. Not to mention fully love my husband & others. I have over the years wept, processed, forgiven, received & been healed & God has peeled layers & layers- yet over time a deeper layer is revealed & I see it & feel so discouraged & wonder if I'm back at square one & feel tempted to say to heck with it & give up. Yet here I am listening to you guys & I know it's part of God's plan that I would 'discover' you at this particular time when I'm ready to 'hear' & 'process' - AGAIN!! I honestly thought I had faced & released all the hurt & pain but obviously not. Truth is I've known I still have some protective walls & STILL cannot freely receive & give love. I was almost thinking I'm just 'screwed up' & not like others who seem to be able to just believe & receive. And to just accept 'it is what it is' & just finish out my life without expecting anything more. I mean my gosh how much time does it take to be free from insecurities & fears!?! (Sorry to rant but it's where I'm at right now) I've just started reading your book that you offered as a free download. God is truly using you both in my life. I'm thankful. Keep doing what you do. It's powerful! 🙌❤️🙏
Please do not be discouraged, I'm at the same point, you know what ? At the end of the rope the only thing to do is what God's wants us to do DEPEND ON HIM ONLY. he loved us before we were born, his call is irrevocable. God bless you
I do believe I struggle with LOVE altogether. It finally came to me that I was still here because He loves me. From early teens till about 10yrs ago I felt that God didn't want anything to do with me. Now my problem is being able to stay with prayer, not knowing how to pray, or stay in the bible. The only voices I'm hearing is coming from me. The heart has baffled me. I hear people talking about God putting something on their that mad no sense, I'm not feeling anything or know how to feel something on my heart. In my mind the heart pumped blood. I know there is more to it but I'm having a hard time getting there. I know I'm broken, and I come from brokenness. I know God has saved me time and time again, that's what I didn't understand, WHY? I think too much therefore I'm CRAZY!!!
I relate to Mark’s story and I also relate to Melissa’s story. The way Melissa describes her experience with rejection 🎯. That bit about parents not being able to equip and not being able to be emotionally present 🎯. So true in my story.
So much truth about the previous generation. My dad specifically stated that everything was to be left at an alter when I shared that I was seeing a counselor a few years ago. I completely felt emotionally abandoned by my father and I pushed him away at a young age and don’t have an idea why. Praying for transformation within myself to help my children live a better life. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wow! Thank you so so much for this video. It has opened my eyes to a lot of what I’ve been going through. I can relate so much to your experience, it’s crazy! Ive been a Christian for 10 years and have struggled with major depression and anxiety, I tried everything but nothing has really helped. I really believe this is the root of my issues. I’m so happy and grateful that I found your channel. You explain thing so well and It’s really helping me 🙏🏻 thanks again!
Thank you for sharing! I have been listening to your videos everyday and it's been very helpful! Thank you for sharing how trauma and hurt can impact how we see God. This is life changing! God bless you both 🙏 ❤
Yes! Slowing down our words/movements/thoughts, taking a deep breath, & feeling God's love (e.g. gift of creation, compliment from a friend, meditating on scripture passages on God's love) in our physiology is a HUUUUUUGE part of healing.... You mentioned naming both the positive & "negative" aspects of our upbringing & for future shows, I'm wondering how much grieving was also part of your healing journies?.... allowing yourselves to feel God's tears (love) for what you've experienced. Thank you!
Very good! Yes, grieving was a major part of this process. I think it's a missing link in heart healing, as most people see grieving as only something you do when someone dies. But we don't know how to properly grieve loss of any kind. God can be experienced in powerful ways if we let the grieving happen, otherwise, all that pain gets locked up in stress, anger, depression and more.
Love, love, love your ministry and insights! Thank you again! You are helping me, my friends and family. A. Lot. Thank you for letting God write your story and use your brokenness for His glory. Praying for you! “Is anything too hard for the Lord?” Gen. 18:14a 💕
I am so glad I found this. I remember the cliche that was "Pray about it" I did not know even what to ask for. I am so wounded and rejected. I look forward to the rejection book. !!!
I am thanking God for you and Melissa, I relate to her shallow thoughts she had about “oh wow that makes me a good person” or you with your anxiety. I’ve struggled so much with scrupulousity over my salvation and the Holy Spirit through you has shown the light in the situation that it’s my lack of understanding Gods love. I am about to start school for Christian counseling and the way you teach is what I believe God is calling me to teach. So many hurting Christian’s need this approach. This has been life changing for me. God has been showing me over and over about all of the things I need to work on within myself mentally. And I know I’m an overcomer and with Gods love and encouragement I will be able to help others see this as well!! So thank you for following God’s calling on your life!
I always thought of Jesus as A Condemning God if I sinned I was Doomed , hell was my place if I died I wasn’t good enough always negative thinking , if I was in good standing than God was Happy , if I had a bad day than God was upset with me
I was looking for answers as to why I am struggling to believe and why I can't receive or just trust God. I don't have safety with anyone around me and things are always very negative with my parents. Thank you for helping me understand why. I was praying for God to show me my issue and help me see clearly. I want this relationship, I want Christ and salvation. I've been a Christian for 7 years and have never felt I could be saved, always struggling with assurance, panic and a host of other issues. This video shed light on alot of causes. I appreciate you sharing your story.
47:50 - the point on God doing this grand demonstration. I’ve had the privilege of being aware of that it wouldn’t solve my issues. That it was better for me to learn to fight what I and life situations said about me and instead accept what God says! That the deeper lasting work was in patience and faith! If hope deferred makes the heart sick, how much more well will hope and faith fulfilled make your heart! Like Jesus being asleep in the boat. Don’t panic, God loves you! God bless you both! Praise God for your faith and trust in God to slow down and learn/grow!
Hey guys, first of all, thank you for all you do and teach. I am in a place understanding that God loves me unconditionally. But my struggle comes from the place of a learned behavior, it is my responsibility to get my life together. I need to fix my bad choices. Don't come to my parents and ask for help, but just start acting right. My experiences when I made bad choices was being called to the carpet and get my head out of my posterior side and get it together. So, I am learning that God wants me to come to Him and trust Him to lead me through life and it's challenges. To put it in worldly terms, I learned respond to relationships in an anxious avoidant behavior. Both a push people away, (reject them before I get rejected) and seek acceptance through my performance..
I have lived a pretty isolated life and lately have moved and came into a new church. I cannot believe how much drama is in the leadership! I just want to go live in a shack on a mountain. People are nuts!
Thank you so much , so grateful for you both. Giving up the things I like, ocd battles, legalistic shallow relationship with God all of that was so good. God bless you both and your family.
Yes, we tend to use the hammer that was used on us & use it on others. Healing is painful, and the rewards are wonderful. I hear your pain & recovery.Thanks very much.
Woooww!!! This is exactly what I’m battling with now! Receiving Gods love! This testimony speaks so much because I’m going through all of these things and or have went through these things!
This message really touched my heart tonight. The honesty from both of you opened my eyes to some truths that have been hard for me to recieve. I have strived my entire life to be loved and accepted by people who truly didn't know how to give it out. I've had such distorted thinking. Ty!
Mark, your words speak to me so clearly. Thank you SO much!! For this video. I loved the last episode as well. You really break down what's happening, and step by step, explain it in a way that makes so much sense. 💜💜💜🙏🙏🙏 I am grateful to have witnessed and found you both.
I’m so thankful for Melissa! I feel like I’ve never had a woman to relate with, even with my faith walk. Haven’t found anyone I could relate too and she’s hitting the nail on the head. I’m so thankful for all of the videos and honesty/transparency ya’ll show! Finally a true ‘normal’! It’s a process and now I have hope knowing I’m on track and not crazy and it’s okay I’m older and healing and understand how to receive Gods true love! 🙌🏽🙏🏽😭🥲🥰
Thank you for sharing this. I struggled to receive God's love because I looked for validation im worldly things such as people or the status of work. But love starts within yourself. You love yourself as God loves you. And that eventually translates to everything outside of you. Another subject that you got into was trust. So thank you.
This is such a painful all encompassing root core wound. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I relate to every sentence of this video. My earthly dad allways had a frown on his face in my presence and was verbally abusive. Trying to receive Gods love has been a VERY bumpy road. I get my best results just sitting at his feet quietly, not trying to earn or do anything.
I LOVE it when you have your wife on with you, Mark... adds a wonderful dimension! How do we know when we're being attacked by the enemy and when we're being disciplined because we've got unknown sin on our life? You know search me oh God and show me any wicked ways. I tithe and and do offering, almost 20%, serve God in ministry at church yet still struggling with finances. God promised that He would be a debtor to no one. That if we bring all the tithes into the storehouse and He's going to pour out a blessing I can't receive. God is never wrong, so the blockage must be on my end. So how can I find out what I'm doing wrong?
I’m gonna watch this on repeat daily til I absorb and recieve Gods love . Thank you for this upload, I’ll be Benj watching the rest of your videos this month as well . God bless you for being so open and vulnerable.
Pour your grace cand love on us, let us receive Lord, only love I know is at my expense,struggle receiving love, thinking it will cost me dearly in every way, been working hard being Cinderella. But even if you give it all, it’s not enough. Learning Gods love for me, also learning there is lots of people who aren’t like me, they are not there for you, only to kill steal or destroy, I have trust issues, lots of love talking but no doing, am isolating , have no more to give, focused on my healing, learning to love myself, learning God is with me. I wish I can experience Gods love more.
Thank you both SO much. I could relate very much to this topic being that I always felt disconnected from both my parents, even within the strong church context. I also came up in a strict religious upbringing. I am grateful for many blessings that came out of it but I didn't understand I was worthy to receive love. I still struggle with performance based behaviors, but doing better. I receive this teaching as a gift of my FATHER'S LOVE. THX!
John Bunyan book of Grace abounding to the chief of sinners was a real eye opener as to how many people deal with this just as me. I can relate so much to all you where sharing 😭
Thank you for sharing this and also I am new to your channel. I have not heard of any of your books and when I saw the titles of some of your books. I am like yes i need to get that. I have OCD and have had it probably since I was 12 . I am almost 55 and my OCD had all kinds of forms it too. I obsessed over so many things but faith things was the biggest. The reason being is I love God with all my heart as much as human can but of course i have always struggled because I hated failing God and I worried all the time I was not doing good enough or was not as good of a Christian as someone else. I went through some really tough times in my life with OCD but you know God brought me through and I am on the other side . I am so glad to hear all your saying in this and other videos I have watched. It helps when you hear that someone else gets what your dealing with because there are many that do not. Bless you and your wife as you help so many many people with all your teaching and God has given you the wisdom I believe to be able to teach and understand the Battle with OCD and Faith based things.
During prayer this morning ( 8-1-2021) I realized I had bitter roots about my earthly Dad. He was a hard axx, grew up during the Depression and his Dad died when he was 10. So he didn't have a child hood per se'; So, I fell in love with drugs. Thankfully, Christ baptized me with His Holy Spirit when I was 37, and I just celebrated 25 years of freedom from the drug lifestyle!!!!!!.My Dad and I were okay when he passed in 2008. I was able to share my experience with him. Every session you share is creating healing in my soul, spirit, body, mind. Thx so much !!! Be blessed!!! ✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝
Wow! You helped me tremendously. This is exactly where I'm at in my life. Thank you for blessing me with breaking it down with practicality. God bless you. 🙌🙏
I think the subconscious is where the problem is, as my view of God is different than my lack of experience of His love. If that makes sense? I know God loves me in my brain, I know He is good. But my experience aligns with my earth father experience.
Having a Malignant Narcissist father I was the blame, I was not wanted because I was not a boy, if I did everything perfectly (like a robot slave) I got his attention, if I exerted my boundaries they were steamrolled with rage and even physical spanking.
God bless you for having this conversation. I am on this journey, Derek Prince breaks down rejection and ultimate self rejection also. It is deep and many of us must heal in this area so the body of Christ and reach its full potential
Very, very good. I got like that in my teenage years. Christian ocd and anxiety. This is helpful. You guys are here at the right time. God is usuing you 2. 🙏 such help for this generation.
Great videos! I am 47 and seeking Jesus. Growing up, I thought my "work" was needed to grow close to God. Raised Pentecostal the women didn't wear pants, preach, yada yada, hopefully, you get the jist. So, I can relate to what you are saying. That was such an impression on me that I thought I was doomed. It was 2 years ago I was reading the Bible and came across the verse Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works so that no one can boast. I just wept and now I do not just take man's word but read and study the Bible for myself. But for me, you know being a child I looked at the elders in the church as the gospel. If you ask and need God's guidance, ask him he will show you. Thank you both for taking the time to help us with our lives and study of the Word.
I told a pastor 30 years ago I was struggling with depression. He replied, "I can get you out of that." "Will you help me?", I asked. Twice. He left me standing on the pavement. Thirty years later I still struggle. I choose to say, "I forgive him, God." But the root causes of what afflicts me are still entangling my soul. I dread the thought of facing God with my failed life.
Are you sure that your life is a failed life since Gods ways are not our ways? Let us pray that you simply will let Him be your Father and in that there will be no more fear of a failed life for that is the purpose for our lives and the only desire that God has for us, that we can rest in Him as true beloved sons and daughters could.
@@veronicayoung-rk4jj "Let us pray that you will simply let Him be your Father..." "Father" is the word that makes me feel most uncomfortable, that I struggle with most.
Just found this video but that you for your videos! I relate a lot with the past perfectionism, lack of nurture, receiving love, etc. I’m looking forward to listening to these more on solitude walks! Thank you for posting these videos.
We were taught that it's wrong to get something for nothing. You had to work/earn what you got. I have received salvation, but the prospect of being close to God is scary...being open/vulnerable enough to feel anything good just seems impossible. And it feels wrong to receive what you don't deserve. Sigh.
12:32 - 12:40 I know exactly what you mean. But I sometimes struggle to link it to religious environments. Again, I veer towards self-blame. Not self-examination, but blame, because I misinterpreted it and if I were smarter or had more wisdom, I wouldn't have interpreted it that way.
What I don't understand is how I am supposed to accept something I genuinely don't want because I know I don't deserve it. It feels like it would be wrong to do anything other than reject something I don't deserve.
That would probably indicate some areas of unworthiness and battles with self that could use some heart healing. I would highly recommend the book I wrote, God Loves Me and I Love Myself. markdejesus.com/god-loves-loves-me-and-i-love-myself-book/
If you paid and suffered a lot to save someone you loved And you were so happy and said come on let’s forget this and be happy I managed to save you They kept saying I feel unworthy I can’t accept it How would you feel ?
If I don't understand this truth (God's unconditional love for me) I will always be focusing on "getting better" and sinning less instead of resting in the love of Father God, and experience his kindness and care through life's ups and downs.
That’s a Christian doctrine problem. It does not allow God’s love to be unconditional. The condition is always going to be “you must have faith or God rejects you” & then Christian doctrine tells you all the things you must be doing to prove your faith is real. So God’s love always depends on your faith, your obedience & then there’s this threat of eternal hell looming over you just to remind you that God can at any moment make things go really bad for you if you aren’t perfectly indoctrinated & obeying God’s doctrine perfectly.
No savior, no grace, no love, no peace, no freedom because conditional salvation, conditional grace, conditional love, conditional peace, conditional freedom is no salvation, no grace, no love, no peace, no freedom.
Take away all conditions & now you have salvation that depends on the Savior, now you have love that depends on God being love, now you have peace that depends on the blood of His cross, now you have freedom because nothing can separate you from this unconditional love. A gift by definition must have no conditions or it’s not a gift. Salvation is a gift, righteousness is a gift, eternal life is a gift, the Holy Spirit is a gift. Condemn others for not meeting your Christian doctrine & you condemn yourself. The only way to remove all condemnation for all time is to remove all conditions by allowing Jesus to be the unconditional Savior of all men. Conditional salvation is no salvation. For freedom Christ set us free. He gives us rest & peace because He did what we could not & were not created to do.
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@@BingoNamo-gb8pz Perfect, that's exactly the mindset I'm stuck in 💯💯💯💯
@@Irina_00 yes, faith comes by hearing the word of God. Faith doesn’t come from us. God made a promise & Abraham knew God cannot lie so Abraham was FORCED to believe God. It is God’s word that carries the faith. “By grace are you saved through faith & that not of yourselves it is the gift of God not of works so no man can boast.” Or another way to say it is faithfulness (knowing God is faithful to keep His word).
To make it even more clear that salvation depends on God’s promise & not our faith, but His faithfulness to keep His promise, we have Romans 9-11.
According to the scriptures all of the unbelieving Jews who rejected Jesus will be saved (Romans 11:25-29) because salvation is not of the will of man, it is a promise God made to Abraham & God will keep His promise. “Not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.” He will have mercy on whom He wills & God wills all men to be saved & to come to the knowledge of truth. God is not willing that any perish but that all come to repentance.
It is the kindness of God that leads men to repentance. In other words, because God is always kind & never changes God is always leading us to repentance. Grace teaches us how to live godly, so without grace no one can live godly. Grace & truth came through Jesus Christ. We are godly not because we do not sin, but because we do not hold sins against others, but forgive sins just as God has forgiven our sins for the sake of Christ. We cover sins with love.
Jesus desired mercy & not sacrifice because they were switching to the law of liberty & would no longer be under the law of Moses. Since there is no more sacrifice for sins left (Jesus being the final sacrifice to put away all sin forever) the only option is to show mercy. The only option is grace. If you sinned under the law of Moses you did not need the mercy of the one you sinned against, you just needed an animal sacrifice. James 2 describes this. Mercy triumphs over judgement. If you don’t show mercy you are in essence withholding mercy from yourself & making things more difficult on yourself. You are trampling underfoot the Son of God every time you hold sins against a person because Jesus took away the sin of the world. God does not see us according to the flesh (Christian, Catholic, Hindu, Muslim, atheist, LGBTQ) God lives by the Spirit of truth so He sees the truth about us-we are perfectly righteous in Jesus who is the head of EVERY man.
“Putting away all lying, speak the truth to your neighbor, for we are members of the same body.” - Ephesians 4:25
“For there is 1 God & Father of us all, who is above all, through all, and in all.” - Ephesians 4:6
When God says in Hebrews 8 “All shall know Me for I will be merciful to their unrighteousness & their sins & lawless deeds I will remember no more” God actually means what He says. This is the new covenant we are under. So if we want to live by the rules of the New Covenant, then we should likewise be merciful to unrighteousness & remember sins & lawless deeds no more. No man has ever hated his own flesh but nourishes & cherishes it. We need to realize every person on earth is bone of our bones & flesh of our flesh. We are all one body.
This is why Jesus tells us to love everyone. “Even the sinner loves those who love them.” What Christianity has done is reduced God to a sinner who only loves those who love Him & is only kind to the good (but Jesus says God is kind to the ungrateful & wicked). We love Him because He first loved us & He demonstrated His love for us by sending Jesus to die for us while we were ALL sinners. God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD to Himself. We are simply ministers of reconciliation, telling people the good news that God saved us & loves us unconditionally for all of eternity. So they can have peace like we are supposed to have. But we can’t have peace if we still think God is against us & imputing sins to us (He isn’t & He hasn’t for nearly 2,000 years-where there is no law sin is not imputed).
I struggle with the Father's love in that I often feel that I shouldn't expect something wonderful and permanent to happen without there being some form of disappointment to occur later. It's hard to recieve that I can even be loved by a true man of God. I'm struggling and it hurts to receive his love because i don't understand it's permanence.
I understand what you're saying. I am glad that you jumped into our podcast series here on Exposing the Rejection Mindset, as this series helps to unravel the struggle we have to connect to the Father's love for us. If you want to go further, I encourage you to get a copy of the book.
@marktdejesus I don't know how to receive God's love, and I want to
My mom and dad didn't talk about their brokenness either. Will God heal my brokenness. Can I learn to accept His love and apply it to my mind regularly
@@marktdejesus i just discovered you, i wasnt religious, and self medicated for 20yrs, so thankful for you guys
I can relate to this.
This just completely opened the eyes of my understanding, and set me free from wrong thinking and strongholds that have been over me since my adolescence. Wow! I have been on a relentless pursuit to understand God's love, and not only understand, but have an encounter with Him that will totally change me, and bring me closer to Him. God bless your ministry. You two are amazing and are great teachers!
Thanks Philip!
Hey this is really good and really important. I’m a 60 year old Christian man and I really need and value what you’ve done here. Thank you very much! Great work.
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61... know where you're coming from!!
I, think one of the best gift i gut early in my christian life, i learned from Leanne Payne, to small talk to God as if He is there what He is, He is inside me by the Spirit and i never feel after God i know He allways present, He never leaves me ore forsake. I just talk to God all day long about every thing, hope this will help some one. Gods peace to all
Thank you for the reminder. God bless
My heart healed a little while watching this. ❤️
I like this comment 1million times, be blesses Daughter of God!👑👑
"I don't know where to land with God."
I totally relate to that. Heard this a year ago. And here I am. Again.
I got a message from the Spirit about 10 days ago:
“You need to stop being so mean to yourself!” I’ve been studying self-hate, self-loathing, and starting to love myself!! Thx for your program. It’s helpful.
I'm totally having my spiritual awakening. Thank you for putting into words what I've been feeling for decades. I'm 39 and I'm finally truly feeling God's love. I grew up in a "religious culture" so I never really 'felt' anything that felt like God's love. On top of being abused as a kid and then spending the early adult years being blinded by my trauma. I didn't feel God's love and I didn't feel anyones love in the flesh.
But I finally feel it and I'm so proud to have an opportunity to create the positive God loving space for my kids now although one is an adult and living where I was when I was his age. But I've been praying for him and I know that he'll get the love he needs from God.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I don't have the words to express the gratitude I have for you both.
God sent me to you channel and I bless you both for the work you're doing. I didn't know how jacked up I really was, but was getting clues from the other people in my life who accused me of being "intense" and "a good talker." I can see that they have their own stuff and are human, so I can begin to forgive them, but now I have a pathway to begin learning how to Love God as a father. Now I know why I've been single until now (51 yrs). I pray that I will be able to receive His love. I don't want to be single any more, but believe that if I can finally connect to Him and learn to love and be loved by Him, that I may be able to fight the good fight alone until I die and not suffer horribly while I work for Him.
This is so good! So excited for your pathway of healing.
Thank you for your message, i hope you find the love of your life, you certainly will make a wonderful loving partner 😘
Oh my goodness that's me. If I like something or enjoy something I feel like God wants me to give it up. And then I feel very holy and special if I do.... Because I am such an obedient child.
Me too and missed out on soo much. I’m still struggling with this.
Wow. I love Jesus always have as long as I remember. But I remember someone telling me when I was young, Jesus doesn't love bad little girls. That followed me. Now at almost 70 it still follows me.
@godsdaughter1954 It's so sad that words and phrases impress like a hot iron on our minds as children. Mom told me when I was three years old that nobody wanted to hear what I had to say. Although she brought me to a backroom to tell me that because I was prattling away to her company, it scorched like a flame down to my core for some reason. 60 yrs old now and it still is there. I didn't deal with that til recently!!!!
I am a disabled army veteran, and have experienced God in my youth, I lived a life most others haven't, I was born in Los Angeles General hospital, my parents were young and were fighting, they were married but ignored giving me a name, and in fact some time when they brought me home they fought again and I was injured as a new born, ...so with no name on my birth certificate and being injured, ,and abandoned at grade school age, I grew up in gang areas and culture, I saw my first killing at age 5 or 6, and I often would make efforts to spend time with God in a catholic church, by the time I was in 5th grade I thought I was to old and life had passed me by, seriously, I still tried to learn and pray, at some point in high school they realized I was homeless and places me in foster home, I graduated early from high school and went to Pasadena city college for the summer, later joined the usa army! Thinking I needed discipline and to serve and to be a better servant to Jesus! ...basically through the years I have made it, but now at age 54 last few years I have been in very deep struggle with faith! .....other tragedies of death hit me hard, but for some reason I had this dog for the fist time, and named the dog eden! Maybe its what I always desired, and she died this year at age 4 and half! And it crushed me! I have not been able to recover from the loss of my dog! It feels like everything from the past cought up to me, and I can't it ! So please pray for me! Thank you and keep up the good works!
Thank you for sharing your story. My heart aches for you for all of the love that God longed to give you but that you did not receive. I am so sorry for such difficult beginnings to your life and I am not surprised that it is now finally catching up with you and manifesting through your struggle to get over the loss of your dog. Please know that God is with you and has always been with you loving you. May you now be able to rest in it! I am praying for your healing.
I know this happened 3 yrs ago, however, you have been through soooooo much. Thats why God loves you sooooooooo much. To lose a dog is horrible. I know so well. Iam,ugh older than you. When our dog died, I would cry for months . I would regret every little thing I could have done to make her life better. As a USMC combat vet. Vietnam, ( told you I was old) death was a horrible thought always. Thus when "muffin died" the permanence of the loss was great. I am now a Born Again Christian and strive to focus on God's love in a painful world. At times it is not easy. Wish you the best.
34:10, OH my goodness, sounds so easy, but so hard.
I hear ya. I find that we've all been trained in the hard way, so it becomes hard to unglue from that and step into grace and love.
The mode of operation with my father was extreme abuse and fear hence I struggle to receive love sometimes as I don't understand what love looks like. I fear my dad so much and sometimes this translates to how I see God sometimes ... 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of FEAR, but of POWER and of LOVE and of a SOUND MIND. Now looking at this scripture tells me God my Father Loves me.
That's amazing! So awesome to see this open up in your heart. I pray that love continues to pour out over your life.
Phew, a year later, I realized that it was the devil that does the spirit of fear since the Lord said he hasn't given us the spirit of fear and if so then who did? "the devil" I resisted so hard with prayer every midnight till he fled from me .Now, that I have the spirit of Confidence now in the Lord. so no more fear .. my motto is faith over fear no matter what.... all glory be to God.
@@adewdew6019 awesome testimony!
This is my history. My father raised me in fear. E
I've been born again for over 30 years and I still cannot comprehend God's love and have no idea how to accept it. It's been frustrating and I've been praying for years. I'm praying that this video will be one of the stepping stones that breaks me out of this bondage. I haven't watched it yet but I'm starting right now. I pray that you are moving forward with God as He encourages you with His love. 🥰⚘️🙌
I thoroughly enjoyed this and wanted to hear more when it was over.
Thats very encouraging thanks so much.
Thank you Mark and Melissa for this. Such an eye opening blessing to me, after 43 years of agony trying to find my way to a fruitful relationship connection to God. I’ve been trying to force myself to spend time with God more than just you know listening to scripture or listening testimonials, but I’m very frustrated because I often leave this prayer time feeling empty and unconnected. And then I yell and scream and cry and say “I can’t feel your love I don’t know how to get food I’m dyin here!”
You just spoke my life, "if I liked a Avenue that brought me enjoyment, I have to give it up". I gave up video games but I know God now wants me to be happy and enjoy video games.
I would challenge you on this. God is more concerned with your holiness than your happiness. Prayers for you and your struggle with this issue.
Some things we should be careful with… video games in moderation is okay but if it becomes an addiction then that is an issue. An addiction would be spending 4 hours or more on it per day
@@tonibarnes303 only God is Holy, we are saved by grace through faith, not works.
@@tonibarnes303so to be holy is to be unhappy? You think God is unhappy?
Omg. It’s like you are in my head. Listen to both of you, makes me feel like I am less crazy. Thank u from the bottom of my heart
Hey guys, thank you so much for this, glory to God for introducing me to this channel. I have been struggling so much with feeling God's love and He just never ceases to amaze me, right after I wept and begged Him to help me I watched episode 1 of this season and felt encouraged, then I went to your site and read your story and I am so grateful, words cannot begin to describe how I feel. I can only give thanks to God and pray he blesses you guys abundantly!
So glad you found us and were able to receive as you did! Awesome!
Thank you so much for a renewed hope. You’re a God sent. Your struggles are like looking in a mirror.
Wow! I sat here with tears streaming down as you shared. This is not 'new' information to me. I have been on a journey for most of my life it seems to be free to receive God's love & to accept & love myself. Not to mention fully love my husband & others. I have over the years wept, processed, forgiven, received & been healed & God has peeled layers & layers- yet over time a deeper layer is revealed & I see it & feel so discouraged & wonder if I'm back at square one & feel tempted to say to heck with it & give up. Yet here I am listening to you guys & I know it's part of God's plan that I would 'discover' you at this particular time when I'm ready to 'hear' & 'process' - AGAIN!! I honestly thought I had faced & released all the hurt & pain but obviously not. Truth is I've known I still have some protective walls & STILL cannot freely receive & give love. I was almost thinking I'm just 'screwed up' & not like others who seem to be able to just believe & receive. And to just accept 'it is what it is' & just finish out my life without expecting anything more. I mean my gosh how much time does it take to be free from insecurities & fears!?! (Sorry to rant but it's where I'm at right now) I've just started reading your book that you offered as a free download. God is truly using you both in my life. I'm thankful. Keep doing what you do. It's powerful! 🙌❤️🙏
So glad to know this Donna! Thank you for sharing your journey and for the encouraging feedback!
Please do not be discouraged, I'm at the same point, you know what ? At the end of the rope the only thing to do is what God's wants us to do DEPEND ON HIM ONLY. he loved us before we were born, his call is irrevocable. God bless you
To be truthful, I am almost 70 and feel like I have never felt love. Always felt I was not to be loved.
@@godsdaughter1954 I pray you will experience a rich revelation of his tender love for you!
I do believe I struggle with LOVE altogether. It finally came to me that I was still here because He loves me. From early teens till about 10yrs ago I felt that God didn't want anything to do with me. Now my problem is being able to stay with prayer, not knowing how to pray, or stay in the bible. The only voices I'm hearing is coming from me. The heart has baffled me. I hear people talking about God putting something on their that mad no sense, I'm not feeling anything or know how to feel something on my heart. In my mind the heart pumped blood. I know there is more to it but I'm having a hard time getting there. I know I'm broken, and I come from brokenness. I know God has saved me time and time again, that's what I didn't understand, WHY? I think too much therefore I'm CRAZY!!!
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love, but perfect love cast out all fear.
You all are sharing revolutionary issues in the church of Jesus Christ and we need to let go of performance. Thank you.
Thank you both so much. Wish you were in my church. Need ones that have hearts of flesh.
Thanks Scott! Appreciate that encouragement so much!
I relate to Mark’s story and I also relate to Melissa’s story. The way Melissa describes her experience with rejection 🎯. That bit about parents not being able to equip and not being able to be emotionally present 🎯. So true in my story.
So much truth about the previous generation. My dad specifically stated that everything was to be left at an alter when I shared that I was seeing a counselor a few years ago. I completely felt emotionally abandoned by my father and I pushed him away at a young age and don’t have an idea why. Praying for transformation within myself to help my children live a better life. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wow, I can so relate! This has always been my struggle!
I pray this episode is an encouragement. I think if more people were honest, they would admit to the same struggle.
Mark DeJesus I checked out your website. I would love to work with you!
@@michelletschupp awesome! Feel free to email me mark@markdejesus.com. I also have a personal help page at markdejesus.com/help
Mark DeJesus thank you!
Wow! Thank you so so much for this video. It has opened my eyes to a lot of what I’ve been going through. I can relate so much to your experience, it’s crazy! Ive been a Christian for 10 years and have struggled with major depression and anxiety, I tried everything but nothing has really helped. I really believe this is the root of my issues. I’m so happy and grateful that I found your channel. You explain thing so well and It’s really helping me 🙏🏻 thanks again!
This is good stuff...you two wonderful people are speaking new life in to me and thousands of others, I'm sure...🙌🌈🙌🙏
Thank you for sharing! I have been listening to your videos everyday and it's been very helpful! Thank you for sharing how trauma and hurt can impact how we see God. This is life changing! God bless you both 🙏 ❤
Yes! Slowing down our words/movements/thoughts, taking a deep breath, & feeling God's love (e.g. gift of creation, compliment from a friend, meditating on scripture passages on God's love) in our physiology is a HUUUUUUGE part of healing.... You mentioned naming both the positive & "negative" aspects of our upbringing & for future shows, I'm wondering how much grieving was also part of your healing journies?.... allowing yourselves to feel God's tears (love) for what you've experienced. Thank you!
Very good! Yes, grieving was a major part of this process. I think it's a missing link in heart healing, as most people see grieving as only something you do when someone dies. But we don't know how to properly grieve loss of any kind. God can be experienced in powerful ways if we let the grieving happen, otherwise, all that pain gets locked up in stress, anger, depression and more.
Love, love, love your ministry and insights! Thank you again! You are helping me, my friends and family. A. Lot. Thank you for letting God write your story and use your brokenness for His glory. Praying for you! “Is anything too hard for the Lord?” Gen. 18:14a 💕
I am so glad I found this. I remember the cliche that was "Pray about it"
I did not know even what to ask for.
I am so wounded and rejected. I look forward to the rejection book. !!!
I am thanking God for you and Melissa, I relate to her shallow thoughts she had about “oh wow that makes me a good person” or you with your anxiety. I’ve struggled so much with scrupulousity over my salvation and the Holy Spirit through you has shown the light in the situation that it’s my lack of understanding Gods love. I am about to start school for Christian counseling and the way you teach is what I believe God is calling me to teach. So many hurting Christian’s need this approach. This has been life changing for me. God has been showing me over and over about all of the things I need to work on within myself mentally. And I know I’m an overcomer and with Gods love and encouragement I will be able to help others see this as well!! So thank you for following God’s calling on your life!
I always thought of Jesus as A Condemning God if I sinned I was Doomed , hell was my place if I died I wasn’t good enough always negative thinking , if I was in good standing than God was Happy , if I had a bad day than God was upset with me
Your story about your father blessed me.
I was looking for answers as to why I am struggling to believe and why I can't receive or just trust God. I don't have safety with anyone around me and things are always very negative with my parents. Thank you for helping me understand why. I was praying for God to show me my issue and help me see clearly. I want this relationship, I want Christ and salvation. I've been a Christian for 7 years and have never felt I could be saved, always struggling with assurance, panic and a host of other issues. This video shed light on alot of causes. I appreciate you sharing your story.
47:50 - the point on God doing this grand demonstration. I’ve had the privilege of being aware of that it wouldn’t solve my issues. That it was better for me to learn to fight what I and life situations said about me and instead accept what God says! That the deeper lasting work was in patience and faith!
If hope deferred makes the heart sick, how much more well will hope and faith fulfilled make your heart!
Like Jesus being asleep in the boat. Don’t panic, God loves you!
God bless you both! Praise God for your faith and trust in God to slow down and learn/grow!
Thank you so much for this. I teared up as soon as you started talking. I'm thanking God for your ministry i really needed to hear this.
Hey guys, first of all, thank you for all you do and teach.
I am in a place understanding that God loves me unconditionally. But my struggle comes from the place of a learned behavior, it is my responsibility to get my life together. I need to fix my bad choices. Don't come to my parents and ask for help, but just start acting right. My experiences when I made bad choices was being called to the carpet and get my head out of my posterior side and get it together.
So, I am learning that God wants me to come to Him and trust Him to lead me through life and it's challenges.
To put it in worldly terms, I learned respond to relationships in an anxious avoidant behavior. Both a push people away, (reject them before I get rejected) and seek acceptance through my performance..
i have been hiking for 2 and a half years now-cannot even express how it has blessed me-a complete gift from God♥️
Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to speak thru you both. God bless you and your family
I have lived a pretty isolated life and lately have moved and came into a new church. I cannot believe how much drama is in the leadership! I just want to go live in a shack on a mountain. People are nuts!
Thank you so much , so grateful for you both. Giving up the things I like, ocd battles, legalistic shallow relationship with God all of that was so good. God bless you both and your family.
Did you take Mark’s program?
Yes, we tend to use the hammer that was used on us & use it on others. Healing is painful, and the rewards are wonderful. I hear your pain & recovery.Thanks very much.
Woooww!!! This is exactly what I’m battling with now! Receiving Gods love! This testimony speaks so much because I’m going through all of these things and or have went through these things!
It’s pandemic season. Your channel is blessing me. So
Much!!! Thank you Mark and Melissa. ♥️
Appreciate that !
This message really touched my heart tonight. The honesty from both of you opened my eyes to some truths that have been hard for me to recieve. I have strived my entire life to be loved and accepted by people who truly didn't know how to give it out. I've had such distorted thinking. Ty!
Mark, your words speak to me so clearly. Thank you SO much!! For this video. I loved the last episode as well. You really break down what's happening, and step by step, explain it in a way that makes so much sense. 💜💜💜🙏🙏🙏 I am grateful to have witnessed and found you both.
I’m so thankful for Melissa! I feel like I’ve never had a woman to relate with, even with my faith walk. Haven’t found anyone I could relate too and she’s hitting the nail on the head. I’m so thankful for all of the videos and honesty/transparency ya’ll show! Finally a true ‘normal’! It’s a process and now I have hope knowing I’m on track and not crazy and it’s okay I’m older and healing and understand how to receive Gods true love! 🙌🏽🙏🏽😭🥲🥰
Thank you for sharing this. I struggled to receive God's love because I looked for validation im worldly things such as people or the status of work. But love starts within yourself. You love yourself as God loves you. And that eventually translates to everything outside of you.
Another subject that you got into was trust.
So thank you.
This is such a painful all encompassing root core wound. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I relate to every sentence of this video. My earthly dad allways had a frown on his face in my presence and was verbally abusive. Trying to receive Gods love has been a VERY bumpy road. I get my best results just sitting at his feet quietly, not trying to earn or do anything.
Thanks for sharing your experiences and speaking about gods love you are amazing ❤️❤️
You guys are great together! Thanks again for sharing, it has been a balm for my soul.
Brilliant teaching!! Thank you.😊 I can totally relate..and I have just realized,I have a lot stuff I need to work through...
I LOVE it when you have your wife on with you, Mark... adds a wonderful dimension!
How do we know when we're being attacked by the enemy and when we're being disciplined because we've got unknown sin on our life?
You know search me oh God and show me any wicked ways. I tithe and and do offering, almost 20%, serve God in ministry at church yet still struggling with finances. God promised that He would be a debtor to no one. That if we bring all the tithes into the storehouse and He's going to pour out a blessing I can't receive. God is never wrong, so the blockage must be on my end. So how can I find out what I'm doing wrong?
Oh man. Can i relate to this.
I’m gonna watch this on repeat daily til I absorb and recieve Gods love . Thank you for this upload, I’ll be Benj watching the rest of your videos this month as well . God bless you for being so open and vulnerable.
Pour your grace cand love on us, let us receive Lord, only love I know is at my expense,struggle receiving love, thinking it will cost me dearly in every way, been working hard being Cinderella.
But even if you give it all, it’s not enough.
Learning Gods love for me, also learning there is lots of people who aren’t like me, they are not there for you, only to kill steal or destroy, I have trust issues, lots of love talking but no doing, am isolating , have no more to give, focused on my healing, learning to love myself, learning God is with me. I wish I can experience Gods love more.
Thank you both SO much. I could relate very much to this topic being that I always felt disconnected from both my parents, even within the strong church context. I also came up in a strict religious upbringing. I am grateful for many blessings that came out of it but I didn't understand I was worthy to receive love. I still struggle with performance based behaviors, but doing better. I receive this teaching as a gift of my FATHER'S LOVE. THX!
John Bunyan book of Grace abounding to the chief of sinners was a real eye opener as to how many people deal with this just as me. I can relate so much to all you where sharing 😭
Thank you Jesus Thank you ! Mark and Melissa this so right on ❤
Thank you for sharing this and also I am new to your channel. I have not heard of any of your books and when I saw the titles of some of your books. I am like yes i need to get that. I have OCD and have had it probably since I was 12 . I am almost 55 and my OCD had all kinds of forms it too. I obsessed over so many things but faith things was the biggest. The reason being is I love God with all my heart as much as human can but of course i have always struggled because I hated failing God and I worried all the time I was not doing good enough or was not as good of a Christian as someone else. I went through some really tough times in my life with OCD but you know God brought me through and I am on the other side . I am so glad to hear all your saying in this and other videos I have watched. It helps when you hear that someone else gets what your dealing with because there are many that do not. Bless you and your wife as you help so many many people with all your teaching and God has given you the wisdom I believe to be able to teach and understand the Battle with OCD and Faith based things.
this was so beautiful ! this helped me so much oh my gosh.
This is a great series. Thanks!! It's really blessing me. I'll definitely be buying some of your books!
So glad to know that! Thanks so much!
What a blessed ministry y'all have.i love you guys so much.your ministry is a blessing and has continually blessed me
During prayer this morning ( 8-1-2021) I realized I had bitter roots about my earthly Dad. He was a hard axx, grew up during the Depression and his Dad died when he was 10. So he didn't have a child hood per se'; So, I fell in love with drugs. Thankfully, Christ baptized me with His Holy Spirit when I was 37, and I just celebrated 25 years of freedom from the drug lifestyle!!!!!!.My Dad and I were okay when he passed in 2008. I was able to share my experience with him. Every session you share is creating healing in my soul, spirit, body, mind. Thx so much !!! Be blessed!!! ✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝⛪✝
10:30 is so accurate !
Omg this was so in pointe!!! I needed to see this this is me wow bless you guys for being real
Wow! You helped me tremendously. This is exactly where I'm at in my life. Thank you for blessing me with breaking it down with practicality. God bless you. 🙌🙏
This is so good! One of my ongoing struggles.
I am happy to know that!
I think the subconscious is where the problem is, as my view of God is different than my lack of experience of His love. If that makes sense? I know God loves me in my brain, I know He is good. But my experience aligns with my earth father experience.
I know God hears me, often prayers are answered immediately. No waiting praise God.
Having a Malignant Narcissist father I was the blame, I was not wanted because I was not a boy, if I did everything perfectly (like a robot slave) I got his attention, if I exerted my boundaries they were steamrolled with rage and even physical spanking.
Thankyou for this
It feels like its all the moment im like for so many years
This is a fallen world there’s no way Gods love can be expressed in all its fullness until the return of Christ
Thank you...an avalanche of insights and blessings 🎉❤
Oh my goodness. SAFETY is so important to me. I’m not sure I really know what love looks like either.
God bless you for having this conversation. I am on this journey, Derek Prince breaks down rejection and ultimate self rejection also. It is deep and many of us must heal in this area so the body of Christ and reach its full potential
Hi Mark, thanks so much for this! Wass so useful! I could relate to alot of what was spoken and im glad you were able to share x
What tremendeous insights! Watching this, I feel so understood.
Wow , I completely relate to what You are saying, This has been My life as well. I'm sorry You went through this
Very, very good. I got like that in my teenage years. Christian ocd and anxiety. This is helpful. You guys are here at the right time. God is usuing you 2. 🙏 such help for this generation.
Thank you as always for the amazing and insightful videos. Your messages have helped me so much to accept my father's love. Be blessed
Thanks for this, powerful revelation that I need in this season.
Great videos! I am 47 and seeking Jesus. Growing up, I thought my "work" was needed to grow close to God. Raised Pentecostal the women didn't wear pants, preach, yada yada, hopefully, you get the jist. So, I can relate to what you are saying. That was such an impression on me that I thought I was doomed. It was 2 years ago I was reading the Bible and came across the verse
Ephesians 2:8-9
New International Version
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works so that no one can boast. I just wept and now I do not just take man's word but read and study the Bible for myself. But for me, you know being a child I looked at the elders in the church as the gospel. If you ask and need God's guidance, ask him he will show you.
Thank you both for taking the time to help us with our lives and study of the Word.
I told a pastor 30 years ago I was struggling with depression. He replied, "I can get you out of that."
"Will you help me?", I asked. Twice. He left me standing on the pavement. Thirty years later I still struggle.
I choose to say, "I forgive him, God."
But the root causes of what afflicts me are still entangling my soul.
I dread the thought of facing God with my failed life.
I get how you feel but I think God will understand.
Are you sure that your life is a failed life since Gods ways are not our ways? Let us pray that you simply will let Him be your Father and in that there will be no more fear of a failed life for that is the purpose for our lives and the only desire that God has for us, that we can rest in Him as true beloved sons and daughters could.
@@njbell.productions6127 I wish He'd let me in on the secret...
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@@veronicayoung-rk4jj "Let us pray that you will simply let Him be your Father..."
"Father" is the word that makes me feel most uncomfortable, that I struggle with most.
Just found this video but that you for your videos! I relate a lot with the past perfectionism, lack of nurture, receiving love, etc. I’m looking forward to listening to these more on solitude walks! Thank you for posting these videos.
Man. This really hit home. Thank you.
We were taught that it's wrong to get something for nothing. You had to work/earn what you got. I have received salvation, but the prospect of being close to God is scary...being open/vulnerable enough to feel anything good just seems impossible. And it feels wrong to receive what you don't deserve. Sigh.
In my opinion, the day you accepted Jesus is the day you deserved all God has for you. No good deeds needed....just obedience. Again, just my opinion.
Thank you guys for sharing this...Praise the lord for healing the loved ones...
Just subscribed. Thank you ❤
God bless you!
Love you both❤❤. Mike
The unconditionality factor is really important.
12:32 - 12:40 I know exactly what you mean. But I sometimes struggle to link it to religious environments. Again, I veer towards self-blame. Not self-examination, but blame, because I misinterpreted it and if I were smarter or had more wisdom, I wouldn't have interpreted it that way.
What I don't understand is how I am supposed to accept something I genuinely don't want because I know I don't deserve it.
It feels like it would be wrong to do anything other than reject something I don't deserve.
That would probably indicate some areas of unworthiness and battles with self that could use some heart healing. I would highly recommend the book I wrote, God Loves Me and I Love Myself. markdejesus.com/god-loves-loves-me-and-i-love-myself-book/
If you paid and suffered a lot to save someone you loved And you were so happy and said come on let’s forget this and be happy I managed to save you They kept saying I feel unworthy I can’t accept it How would you feel ?
This is good stuff! Thanks!
Super grateful that God led me to think this way while having you help me think this way.. if that makes sense.❤
This is a difficult lesson to accept especially when you add an extra layer of abuse within the family.