Why Most Medical Students Don’t Honor Their Clerkship Rotations

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @maximumovermuslim6337
    @maximumovermuslim6337 2 года назад +119

    As a father of two in M4, I agree 100% that you should NOT study when you get home. Enjoy your life. When you're at the rotation, work your butt off and earn that evening off to spend with your family. Anki is absolutely essential and is great to use in downtime. I'm by no means a stellar student, but I can tell you that by following these simple rules, I've been able to dodge burnout and depression.

    • @ALdawg1994
      @ALdawg1994 2 года назад

      Hey! Incoming M3 (also father of two) here, really love this post. Any specific decks you recommend for M3? Does it vary depending on the clerkship?

    • @maximumovermuslim6337
      @maximumovermuslim6337 2 года назад +3

      @@ALdawg1994 the Zanki deck is nice but I actually wish that I had created my own deck based off Online Med Ed and Amboss

    • @rutvin8763
      @rutvin8763 2 года назад

      Is it possible to workout 6-8 hrs/week and eat healthy and still be able to honor clerkships in M3? I find my mental health and efficiency are closely tied to how regularly I stick with my workout/diet routine.

    • @maximumovermuslim6337
      @maximumovermuslim6337 2 года назад

      @@rutvin8763 it will heavily vary, and you will more likely need to restructure your schedule for each rotation. You could find yourself working night shifts or long schedules.

  • @LJStability
    @LJStability 2 года назад +52

    I can tell you from personal experience and that of my colleagues, evaluations suck ass. You can do everything he says and still get average evals. Being nice to people, working hard, and basically doing everything you are supposed to. 90% of your evals turn out to be how well you play the game of thrones and know who gives the best evals. In other words, don't beat yourself up on the evaluations. I know many residents that have told me it doesn't matter and even PDs who say that they don't even understand how to incorporate your clinical grades for residency since each school is different. In fact, we have the issue at my location that different locations in our region give you better evals. So, again, don't beat yourself up and think you suck as a doctor. Sometime the system just sucks. You got this

    • @ghytot9695
      @ghytot9695 2 года назад

      What is difference between mbbs and internal,general medicine

    • @egwonorakpofure3290
      @egwonorakpofure3290 2 года назад +1

      @@ghytot9695 MB;BS also BM;BS or MB;ChB or MB;BCh all mean Bachelors of Medicine; Bachelors of Surgery. It is the medical degree awarded in Britain and most of The British commonwealth countries which means most of Africa, Asia and the Indian subcontinent as well... it is the rough equivalent to the American M.D which means Doctor of Medicine. Internal Medicine is a specialty in medicine if you for instance want to be a physician who focuses more on decision making than procedures. General medicine is generally used to represent the all encompassing field of medicine for doctors who practice and have decided not to take a specialty in medicine yet... People who practice general medicine are called Medical officers in former British commonwealth countries. When you go through specialist training to well practice generally medicine (Family medicine residency) you become a GP (General Practitioner as it is called in Britain and former British commonwealth countries) or a Family Physician in USA and countries that have the US system. I hope I have been able to clarify things for you.

    • @ghytot9695
      @ghytot9695 2 года назад +1

      @@egwonorakpofure3290 thanks a lot🤝

  • @murraysolomon4924
    @murraysolomon4924 2 года назад +24

    Shelf exams often have no relationship to the knowledge gained on the clerkship. Make time to consider independent study for the shelf exam particularly if an honors grade is desired. At the end of the day, always ask your intern if there is anything they need help with before you leave. Being a team player is an important key to your evaluation.

    • @smellypatel5272
      @smellypatel5272 20 дней назад

      A. You're not always working with the intern; you're often working with R2/R3s
      B. It's poor structure for a resident to expect a student to do more than what's reasonably expected of them. If they followed up on their assigned patients that's enough. Med students have to go home and study for shelf exams whereas residents generally have more thorough understanding of their day to day presentations
      C. Many med students have difficult schedules that make time for independent study more limited compared to what their peers have to go through. Two students may be on the same rotation at different sites. Whereas one student gets off for the day at 1 PM, the other student is getting off at 5-6 PM with significantly more involved patient care that's taxing. This is why the entire structure of clinical rotations is extremely unfair. And God forbid the student has personal or medical issues in their life. That already limited time to study becomes even more limited.

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 2 года назад +3

    All of these advises and concepts definitely help anyone who wants to get into medical school or those who are in their first two years of medical school

  • @ShaunAndersen
    @ShaunAndersen 2 года назад +5

    This is an absolutely clutch video 🙌🏻

  • @alyssatalamantes2826
    @alyssatalamantes2826 2 года назад +6

    Hi Dr. Jabal
    can you do a video on So You Want To Be A Pathologist please! (:

  • @medschoolhub_
    @medschoolhub_ 2 года назад

    i needed to hear this. I hate my clinical rotations

  • @aqualife88
    @aqualife88 2 года назад

    As always, sound advice. Ready to get into medical school this round!!!

  • @skipyjohnjones
    @skipyjohnjones 2 года назад +2

    Does anybody else’s school use the grading scheme where your clerkship grade isn’t averaged, but is defined by your lowest score? So if you get a 100% on all your evals, but an 80 on your shelf, your final grade is an 80. Vice versa scenario also applies. My school uses this and it just seems unfair

  • @rexcropp6314
    @rexcropp6314 11 месяцев назад

    Just finished MS2 about to take step. I’m kind of nervous for rotations.😅

  • @maximumovermuslim6337
    @maximumovermuslim6337 2 года назад +14

    It's ASTOUNDING how many people can't adopt these interpersonal skills

  • @dimitrijejovanovic5939
    @dimitrijejovanovic5939 2 года назад +18

    I spent the entirety of my medical school in the state of almost constant burnout... I still have no idea how I managed to graduate.

    • @murraysolomon4924
      @murraysolomon4924 2 года назад +1

      Adrenaline is a powerful drug!

    • @dimitrijejovanovic5939
      @dimitrijejovanovic5939 2 года назад

      @@murraysolomon4924 It makes me feel like I am an imposter. A lot of times I had no idea how I even managed to pass an exam. I am an intern now, but it makes me feel like a worthless piece of excrement

    • @tylerhinton1264
      @tylerhinton1264 2 года назад

      @@dimitrijejovanovic5939 do you still feel the constant want to stop? Or are you more optimistic?

    • @maraisfan4life517
      @maraisfan4life517 2 года назад

      @@tylerhinton1264 assuming that they graduated, deep down they were probably optimistic

  • @VirusNerd02
    @VirusNerd02 2 года назад +8

    Can you do a video on Nurses going to MD/DO?

    • @alyssatalamantes2826
      @alyssatalamantes2826 2 года назад +4

      yes please!! I am torn between getting my doctorates to become a CRNA or going to Medical school to be some type of physician

    • @66linny
      @66linny 2 года назад +4

      There’s no specific route for nurses. Take the prerequisites, crush the MCAT, do your extracurriculars and apply. If you really want it, you can do it!

    • @VirusNerd02
      @VirusNerd02 2 года назад

      @@alyssatalamantes2826 me too

    • @jamesamoh7340
      @jamesamoh7340 2 года назад

      @@alyssatalamantes2826 if you really want to be a physician then do med school. CRNA is great too but it’s two to three years depending on the program/location. Most med schools are moving to three and half years. Why not that?

  • @ashli3471
    @ashli3471 2 года назад +4

    Is med school Gpa important in residency match

    • @aweisen1
      @aweisen1 2 года назад

      No, for the vast majority.
      There are a few programs who use GPA as A metric, but they don't weigh it highly against other factors like Step scores and letters.
      Directors care more about Step due to its “predictive” nature regarding board scores (a program needs residents to pass the boards in order to keep the program’s accreditation.)

  • @angelinmerisma6918
    @angelinmerisma6918 2 года назад

    Is medschool insiders is good for college also

  • @salsabilwayz8584
    @salsabilwayz8584 2 года назад +1

    What's the average age American students enter medical school?

    • @arthurhusein4661
      @arthurhusein4661 2 года назад +1

      The past few years has been around 23-24 I believe

    • @salsabilwayz8584
      @salsabilwayz8584 2 года назад +1

      @@arthurhusein4661
      Thankyou!😊😊

  • @redd1417
    @redd1417 2 года назад

    Honoring clerkships isn't even a standardized thing across med schools. My MD school doesn't even set a score as "honors". It's just the numerical score.

  • @nickhen4196
    @nickhen4196 Год назад

    Can you share your flash cards please 🙏

  • @dailydoseofmedicinee
    @dailydoseofmedicinee 2 года назад +3

    👏👏

  • @piman0001
    @piman0001 2 года назад

    Alright. If u want to honor your clinical evaluations ask "how are u. What are your hobbies? Where are you from? Do you have any kids?"
    If you do this you are already 5x more likely to get honors, even if your medical knowledge is meh

  • @abcd-fw2fd
    @abcd-fw2fd 2 года назад

    Flashcards mean anki?

  • @minhngo4920
    @minhngo4920 2 года назад +3

    Wow so early not even 1000 views

  • @harrisonzhu3300
    @harrisonzhu3300 2 года назад +3

    Golden rule shouldn’t be treat others how you want to be treated should be treat others how they want to be treated

    • @tamikuru7936
      @tamikuru7936 2 года назад +6

      Good luck opening yourself up to abuse with that one.

    • @harrisonzhu3300
      @harrisonzhu3300 2 года назад

      @@tamikuru7936 I think you’ve missed my point

    • @Bobert72382
      @Bobert72382 2 года назад

      No you missed the point. The golden rule is a basic empathy tool. The new golden rule being pushed that you mentioned does 100% open you up to abuse

    • @aqualife88
      @aqualife88 2 года назад +5

      But how would you know how they want to be treated? You're not them. Therefore this statement sucks lol

    • @harrisonzhu3300
      @harrisonzhu3300 2 года назад

      @@aqualife88 like all of life, it’s called figuring it out