My Mom is a lawyer, my Dad is a spine surgeon, my grandfather is a dentist, my grandmother is a nurse anesthetist (CRNA), and I am a veterinarian. I would love us to play this game. 😂
At age 12 it was my dentist who informed me that my heart rate was too rapid and to see a cardiologist. So I truly believe that dentists are taught more that just teeth.
I just watch another video detailing differences. I kinda figured before but I’m more convinced, Dentists can answer your non dental questions or if they are doing something dental and find something non dental, they have a idea what’s going on. The main thing is dentists can’t treat dr stuff and drs can’t treat dentists stuff even though they learned a lot of the same things prior to dental/ med school
@@MrSportsUploader I'm a dental student and my neighbor/friend is a medical student (the same year as me) and while medical school is definitely harder because of the amount of stress and care you do with patients, you'd be surprised on how much we need to learn. Essentially, our first two years are taught mainly by medical school professors. We are told we have to learn about the entire body to recognize other diseases and refer out to a doctor if need be but to do that we need to learn about all these different types of diseases. I've learned about the heart, brain, lungs, GI, everything you can think of, and the diseases related to them but we don't learn how to treat them (we do but only to a certain extent) we mainly are focusing on the kind of systematic damage that can be done and symptoms that are related to be able to recognize them. We learn a lot about how systemic health is related to dental health and vice versa, so it's important to recognize how connected the body is because it's just that, so if one disease were to spread, it can reach other areas and cause other issues.
My Dad was a dentist. I do remember him talking about the cadaver labs that he would have and tests on the entire human body, not just the mouth and teeth.
Dr. Mike, most dental diseases can be caused by systemic conditions like autoimmune diseases and cardiovascular disease. That's why it's important for us to learn about everything. Without it, our ability to accurately diagnose our patients would be compromised😆
Literally, thank you. Not to mention how enormous the role of biochemistry is in the oral cavity with things like digestion, exposure, immune response, treatment, etc.. OH, and the fact that the tissue is soft, highly innervated, incredibly vascular, containing glands of varying function…. like…. I’m only describing the gingiva man, why are MDs always having to make it as if Dentists are inferior??? Dental health easily plays a huge role in homeostasis… I better hush cause I’m rambling and could go on about this forever.
@@walkininsomnia Not to mention chronic periodontitis can cause inflammatory factors to spread from the mouth to the heart and damage your heart over time. That one surprised me when I learned it (I know you know this, I'm just enthusiastically info dumping lol).
That is a more apples-to-apples comparison to be honest --- both schools teach a broad variety of basically the same topics --- just different species of patients 😂
@@kerzytibok3211 well vet school is still very much different since you are dealing with many different species of animals as opposed to just humans. Pre vet school is also drastically different from pre med minus the gen eds
@@piagebot2943 I really don't think there is much difference in pre-vet vs. pre-med classes --- they are like 95% the same at most universities, with only the upper bio classes being different
when dental care was non existent, if you had a tooth infection there was a 10-40% chance that you can die from the tooth infection 😅. Oral disease can also lead to heart attacks and strokes if left untreated. Dentists never get enough credit, they too are saving lives and extending yours 🙂
My dentist has been way more on top of long-term issues I'd have from radiation treatment I'd had for cancer in my youth than pretty much any doctor I've had. Not just the obvious teeth/bone/saliva mouth stuff. He figured out how to realign my teeth and bite when I'd been told I could never have braces again. I can't tell you how much a difference that has made in my life.
As someone who is a board certified dentist and a physician (yes, I went to dental school and medical school, I finished Biochemistry prior) I think the dentist was trying to say that they have to study the entire system prior to dentally treating patients holistically. You will see patients in dental infirmaries who has systemic conditions such as HIV/AIDS, DM, lupus, hypertension, you name it. Not to mention there are patients who are allergic to some sort of dental materials, also, many lesions of the skin are also clinically present in the mouth such as HPVs, nevi, hemangiomas, different types of tumors, ulcerations, even SCC etc
I love how stubborn they both are. The angst on Dr. Mike's face totally says 'I will not be defeated', yet he seemed to be more and more impressed by the dentist as the video went on. I think he'd underestimated how hard dental school is. It was great to hear about both med school and dentist school but I'm still firmly Team Med School. Whose team are you on?
While I thought I wanted to work as a nurse for the longest time, it just didn’t seem interesting or exciting to me. I recently got really into dentistry, specifically a dental hygienist! And I can’t wait till I go to school for it
I'm so glad dentists are being appreciated in this video sometimes I feel like as fellow healthcare workers we always get pushed back and often not given much appreciation just because our field is "mainly" revolving around the oral cavity doesn't mean we didn't have to study everything else medical students did! People often forget that everything in the human body is related, your oral health basically affects everything in your body and most often many diseases can be first spotted from your oral health.
The basic problem is that snobbery has existed in medicine for a long time --- brain surgeons will always mock and belittle family doctors and pediatricians
@@K0sm1cKid While I do think some dentists value their income above patients' care, but this applies to any other health care worker out there and this is by no means acceptable whatsoever but it is unfortunately commonly occurring especially in many dental clinics so I do get where you're coming from especially since most students had to take so many loans for dental school they're blinded by greed (hence why I seriously condemn the ridiculous amount of tuition fees schools impose). However this is only a stereotypical prejudice against us and these "self-proclaimed" drs should get their licenses provoked! I get so enraged whenever I hear cases like this happening. There are so many hardworking dentists out there who are seriously working through their debts and struggling just to see their patients smile confidently again. I hope these drs get as much encouragement and appreciation as they deserve.
most professional healthcare workers know the importance of a dentist, not just in a traditional sense but also in roles like oral pathologist and maxillofacial surgeons.
@@K0sm1cKid I think dentists seem shady because most people don't have dental insurance and have to pay with cash --- so they automatically assume the dentist is over-charging for a lot of stuff
Something that wasn’t expressed in this video that I think is a major difference between dental and med school is the the amount of labs that Dental student take while also taking the same classes as the med students. Dental students have to focus on studying and several practicals week in and week out for the first two years and it is extremely time consuming. I will say however that even tho dental do take the same classes as med we don’t put heavy emphasis on certain organ systems that we would never deal with but enough to be able to recognize pathology so that we could help the patient get the care they need because we see patients more often than most other providers. Coming from a second year dental student love the content!
the level of content you need to retain is kinda diff. whilst in dental school you mostly learn it once and mostly forget about it other than the head and neck anatomies and pathologies. however that time is diverted into focusing on hands on procedures.
Yeah the only really obvious part of dental school that is harder than med school is the labs and developing your manual skills. You have to be ready to practice as a general dentist by the time you graduate, whereas someone can graduate med school and not even know how to give a flu vaccine or bandage a paper cut LOL
In a perfect world, yes dentists see their patients more regularly than other providers. But given the state of dental insurance, and how many folks have dental phobias, I am pretty confident that a large number of the US population sees their doctor more often than their dentist.
It'd be really cool to see you do this challenge with a veterinarian (DVM). Both fields have challenges, but it would be interesting to see their similarities and differences.
0:25 - Dental School vs Medical school, which is harder ? 1:40 - Where did you go to school and for how long ? 2:55 - How many schools did you apply & to how many were you accepted ? 4:00 - Best part of the school 6:40 - The cost 7:10 - Mid roll ads 8:10 - Worst part of the school 9:15 - The professors 9:55 - Best memories 11:25 - Student life 12:40 - Ideas for change 14:45 - Advice from the alumnis 16:00 - Which is harder (round 2) PS: A tooth for a tooth ? Eye , Eye !
Ironic that he is talking about student debt being a problem in the same video with an advert for SoFi a company currently suing against student loan forbearance and forgiveness
This video grabbed my attention as I am a dental student. Didn't even notice that 17 minutes have passed already. I had fun watching this video as I learn between dental and med school.😃
So far I enjoyed my dental school experience even though it gets tough often. But as long as you're passionate with your course, you can go through it.
That dentist was very humble, I’m in dental hygiene school and the amount of education for any dental program is SEVERELY UNDERRATED!! We have to understand the entire human body, it’s functions, medications, learn the MANY instruments/how to use them. Learn the laws according to the state, insurance and codes 😭😭 FINALLY TEETH!! Obviously the mouth is connected to the body, people seem to forget this ?? Don’t make me get into the endless diseases of the oral cavity and how your oral health DOES affect your overall health (and vice versa). You both are awesome DOCTORS!!
Good on you for wanting to donate. My nan passed away due to complications from Parkinson’s in 2017 and she donated her body to Washington University Medical School. My grandfather intends to do that same…he survived polio with no resulting physical issues, as well as a stroke, and he speaks multiple languages (he was also an immigrant). I hope that bright young medical minds will learn much from them both and that they’ll end up doing great things.
I find it weird that as a dental ceramist/dental cosmetic lab owner we still have to keep explaining that the mouth is a part of the body...no eat ..no live..no teeth...soft bad diet..bad health/body🫰🏾🪴
Actually many oral surgeons hold a dual dental and medical degree --- they have to go to both schools for a total of six years? You will see "DDS-MD" after their name.
@@alexischarest378 I’m pretty sure they mean it in the sense that dentists don’t have their MD/DO then match into dentistry for residency like a dermatologist would match into dermatology residency. Instead they have to go to an entirely different type of school and obtain a different degree.
I’m a dental hygienist who was previously in a nursing program prior to choosing dentistry. Both Medical and Dental are super super hard, and becoming an MD or DDS are HUGE successes. But what I like about dentistry is that while yes you have to be very detail oriented because you are working in such a small space, a dentist can also speculate if a or has a certain medical condition by pre screening the other, checking the oral cavity, even, checking if their is any chemical erosion of teeth, even the breath of the patient (fruity breath- possible diabetic diagnosis) and therefore encourage our patients to get a physical so that they can get checked out. Medical and Dental can most definitely work hand in hand! ❤
Medical or Dentistry, both schools have their own struggles and stresses, in different ways, of course. However, the fact that both schools are very hard can only mean that the survivors of both are strong heroes and are highly respectable! Thank you for this content.
We saw real patients in med school too. They also had us doing procedures like closing after surgery and delivering babies. We rarely had standardized patients. Definitely one of my favorite parts of med school
I fully support body donation. My mom donated her body to medical school with the hope of helping someone learn something that would save other people. She was a wonderful person who I miss every day, but I'm proud that her last act in this world was one of kindness.
Your Mom was a very selfless and charitable person for doing that. I think it's pretty dumb to put a dead body into the ground where it serves no purpose.
I really needed the video. Currently having a tough moment in my career and hearing the words: don’t let one test, class, or moment discourage you for continuing with your journey really helped lift up my spirits. Thank you.
Oh yeah don't sweat it. Chances are if you don't do as well as you were going for, you can probably take the class again to possibly replace the previous grade to bump your gpa up. Takes a little longer but you'll get it better the second time around. 😊 Its bound to happen at some point in your educational career. Especially if life circumstances keep you from focusing on school.
I do work as an SP (Standardised Patient) its really rewarding being able to somewhat guide the students through my own symptoms to a diagnosis. Feels good when the students get it right because that just means im doing my job right!
As a dental student (maybe I’m biased) but we have the same general school structure, 2 years of sciences then 2 years of practicing on patients but along with the sciences, we spend the first two years learning and trying to master the hand skills. Im team dental 🦷
Awesome to see one of my dental school classmates doing well. And as someone who has a best friend that is a neurologist, we both complained equally about dental school and med school.
Love the shout out to Improv! Been an improv instructor for 8 years and I constantly say how beneficial it can be for everyday use, not just for the stage. Listening is vital
0:26: 🦷 Dr. Daniel discusses the differences between dental school and medical school. 2:55: 😄 The speakers discuss their experiences in dental and medical school and the unique challenges they faced. 5:49: 😅 Dr. Daniel shares his experiences in medical and dental school, including the cool and spooky aspects, the cost of tuition, and the frequency of exams. 8:34: 🎓 The speakers reflect on their experiences in dental and medical school, highlighting the challenges, the importance of mentors, and the process of discovering their true passions. 11:46: 📚 The interviewee describes their personal life during medical or dental school, highlighting the importance of balancing personal life and studies. 14:46: 👨⚕ The importance of staying motivated and focused in medical or dental school despite challenges and toxic environments. Recap by Tammy AI with useful time stamps =)
I am glad to see dental get a little love on this channel. My sister is a dentist. Most people don't think about just how much school they have to do or how much Dentists really know! And no they don't just want to torture you lol
Honestly, I don’t think it is a competition. They’re both probably about equally hard. Also, kudos to anyone who becomes an oral surgeon. I had to have my teeth taken out and replaced with bridges, and my oral surgeon made it very clear what could happen. She walked me through every step of it. It turns out, she also does Botox. Which I found extremely helpful to deal with lockjaw issues.
I am a first year dental student who has to commute 1 hour to/from school and I am also grappling with loss in my family, so I really resonated with what you said about dissociating from your class and medical community. It is nice to know I'm not alone. Also I have this debate with my med school friends and everyone I know outside of the medical world who all think medical school is so much longer and harder than dental school, so thank you to Dr. Rubinshtein representing us well!
I would like to be a dentist too. Did you take student loans? If so, how much? How many years are you going to spend in school + residency + anything else before working? What dental school are you going to? How did you do in highschool? What major did you stuy in college? What is your plan after Dental school? I'm sorry if these are a lot fo questions, I've being looking online for answers but I feel like it would be best to hear from an actual person.
Hi Chelsea, I'm truly sorry for your loss, and I want to extend my heartfelt condolences. Dealing with such challenges while managing dental school and a long commute can be incredibly tough. You're not alone, and your determination is truly commendable. Also, congratulations on making it this far in your journey.
My mother donated her body to a cadaver unit. It was a very good experience. Now they charge a fee to donate…which I don’t understand. A few years later I was teaching in a HOSA class and the cadaver unit was brought in. It was absolutely incredible. I’ll never forget it!
Hi there! How are you doing and I hope you're having a great day! I was going through my RUclips when I saw your nice profile, I couldn't get my eyes of you so I decided to add you up as my lovely friend.
i'm currently finishing my last year in Dental Hygiene school and I loved that both careers blend so well, I agree that dental school crams a lot more in to inevitably focus on one topic but I can completely understand how a Med Dr. has more responsibilities overall, there is something to be said about the quality of dexterity a Dentist must have to be able to perform the tasks at hand.
As a senior dental student this was really entertaining . All dental students hate phantom patients right? I will watch this video with my med school friends for sure!
This video about Dental School from Dr. Daniel and Medical School from Dr. Mike was very informative and educational, so “Don't let Exams or Classes stop you from the main goal in the End” and “Do it for the right reasons” one of the best things you can do is help others in whatever Career Path you choose to work in👍🏾.
Haha that’s funny, I’m donating my body too! Because I went to community college for A&P which was my first experience with a cadaver. It was a 18+ year cadaver, an elderly man they had kept him in workable condition to teach for that many years. My professor told me she stopped eating jerky, and when we visualized our cadaver, I understood why. I immediately decided I was going to donate my body because there just aren’t enough specimens to educate medical providers in training. (Although I’m also an organ donor, so that comes first, and the schools can take whatever is left afterwards. I think I would make a fantastic skeleton for the anatomy lab!) Good for you Doc Mike!
Wow! I have so much respect for organ donors, I'm personally only willing to donate to my future child, perhaps a spouse or close friend but the list ends there lol. kudos to you :)
I'm in med school, and I loved cadaver lab too. Obviously the bodies are anonymous, but I kept wondering then to myself if some of them might have been doctors who once too did cadaver lab, and donated their bodies for future med students. Like closing a circle. I think I too wanna donate my body to future med students. It's kind of a beautiful thought.
I've always wondered if people doing cadaver labs wonder about the people they're doing labs on. I kind of like the idea of students learning about the human body using my dead body some day, and it's kind of nice to think they might take a moment to wonder who I was.
One of the weird things I always thought about is what happens if a med student knows the body when that person was alive? There is no way I could rip apart a family member or a friend in a cadaver lab!
@@kerzytibok3211 my university is danish, and we swap/trade bodies with, I think it was the netherlands, but in any case another european country. So we get their bodies, they get ours, this to avoid a situation like you mentioned, which would be absolutely horrifying, of course.
Aww it's kind of like them paying it forward to the future of medicine. I never thought of it like that. If it was for those reasons they really gave it their all to medicine.
So funny to hear Dr. Rubinshtein say he always wanted to be a dentist as one of my old classmates was the same. I only met him in middle school, but he always had that laser focus.
@@lillybarnett4027 , they definitely KNOW more than doctors about what meds to take. My friend tells me what to ask my doctor in regards to meds. He knows my friend and basically, gives me what I need (and some times, wants b/c he knows I don’t take meds if I don’t want to…)
I'm blessed to have found a graduate program that was low in tuition and was based on case studies, practicum and internship, and building rapport with the professors and classmates. Standardized testing was the least of my worries. Choosing a career in psychology and Clinical Mental Health Counseling was the best decision for me.
I can’t believe that someone else beside me felt the same about how commuting can be a bad idea especially when you are in a medical field. Can totally relate to you Dr.Mike!
That might be very useful to a lot of undergrads since some people get grad degrees before going to med school --- it could let them know the major differences!
well in my country we do 2 years of school after highschool which is equivalent to American undergraduate the major difference here is Physics and chemistry that isn't related to health sciences and also the major part of biology in undergraduate was focused on botany and zoology.
Good observation, I didn't notice the no socks. 😆 I love how comfortable he is on camera though just being himself. Pretty sure that was one of his goals in the channel was to get people to understand Drs are just regular people. 😊
@Lilly Barnett Didn't notice I put socks originally and not shoes 😅. But yeah, I love how Dr. Mike isn't just a doctor giving medical advice, but he boxes and reacts, and shows his dog.
Loved this post. It was to learn more about the dental training etc. I worked in the medical field for 49 yrs so I know what doctors go through to become a doctor. Dr Mike what you are doing with your videos, are so important in helping people with medical issues, educating and options in care. I am donating my body to our medical sch where I live. I have diffuse systemic scleroderma with all of the things that happen w/ this autoimmune I am dealing with, every organ is damaged, Raynaud, Sjogren's, Crest etc etc. I had a stroke with all the circulatory issues and I was also dx w/ multiple myeloma. So I think having this body I hope we can learn more and maybe change the lives dealing with these diseases.
Aww, I'm Latvian! Makes me so happy to hear that other Latvians are out there and doing so great in their lifes :)) I hope your mom has taught you at least a little bit of Latvian
This is correct. Technically I have the entire cocktail needed for the lethal injection in my anesthesia drawer (potassium, long-acting paralytic, midazolam).
my senior in med school ,an anesthesia resident offed himself for who knows why. he was a very smart doctor and in the end he used his knowledge to make a cocktail of fluids to inject into his body to pass away painlessly. very dark i know, but we hear things like in med school quite often.
Just commented the same thing! Really want to see what the differences are. Personally I hope they will also talk about the purpose of treating a patient for vets (working in industries prioritises benefits rather than wellbeing), and the involvement of unethical animal products in a vet’s lifestyle. A doctor would sound insane if they say they eat or use any part of their patients under most circumstances, but many vets actually do that when we think about it. It chills me to see many of them perceiving this as the norm. Dr. Mike could use his influence to plant a little seed in every audience and make them think a bit more!
Ooh, I'd love to see that. Especially since his argument in this one can be turned against him if he's going against vet school. After all, he only has to learn how to treat one species vs having to learn about the biological systems of multiple and completely different species.
Omg this would be so cool!! Vet is learning about animals, all sorts of animals, while med school is learning about human bodies. Quite the big difference. But i would certainly like to see, which is harder XD
I always thought vet school would be harder just because you need to learn about multiple animals as well as conditions and diseases that a family doctor would need to learn, but you need to learn which ones affect which species. Plus vets also do general surgeries as well. It would definitely be interesting to watch.
I respect both professions as they go through similar stresses and pressures in school but ultimately care for people and educate the human population! I loved this video and found it fun ❤️😂
Great video! Never knew Dental School covered so much more than just teeth. Thank you Dr. Daniel for the dental lesson. My entire family are big fans of yours and Dr. Mike!
They sure do I’m a dental hygienist and I didn’t know what I was getting myself into! lol We had to study pharmacology, public health, anatomy body and mouth, nutrition, office management, world diseases, special ed patients, and all kids of problems/diseases in our body and the world Crazy. All so I can clean and understand mouth and body while treating the mouth :) go get a checkup!!!
These brilliant doctors mentioned cadaver labs. Two of my female friends went to Brown Medical School in Rhode Island and are both now practicing doctors. Thanks to the stories they shared with me, I am signed up to donate my body to Brown Medical School once I am done using it. I like to joke it's the only way I'll ever get in! Seriously though, there are stipulations like I have to die within a certain distance, my body has to be in one piece / useable, things like that. Still, I feel this is an exciting way to be useful and help people once I am gone.
My dad went to Brooklyn College and then NYU Dental School way back in the 1960s. (He said professors would smoke while treating patients! ) Anyway, he sure learned a lot of anatomy. He'd scratch and rub my back before bed growing up, and he'd name each muscle and bone, etc as he touched it. And whenever I had any sort of bodily malady, he'd tell me the name for it in Latin. Some people would tease him that he wasn't a docta docta, but he certainly knew far more than just teeth.
It's like a battle for discouraging potential students by presenting all the really hard stuff these schools put one through 😂😂 I'd rather specialize in essential oils right now :)))
@@creolechicken2.080 If you look at average salaries, a Dental GP makes more than a Medical GP and when looking at dental and medical specialties, endodontists and orthodontists make more than most medical specialists (other than surgery). In surgery, an Oral and Maxillofacial surgeon (dental specialty) is the highest paying surgical field (more than neuro and cardio surg)
Newly qualified dentist here! I know its differnet going to dental school in the UK vs US as it is (had to spend 5 years of dental before graduating in the UK) but it is really refreshing to see people talk about the differences between med and dental! couldnt get enough of this video thanks guys!
It’d be cool to do this with a comparison to nursing school. I already know Med school is longer and more expensive and probably much, much harder, but considering the overlap of content I think it’d be cool to compare.
Very interesting. As a lay person, I only see doctors and dentists from my point of view as a patient; it's so enlightening to see your viewpoint. Thanks for what you do, Doctor Mike!
I love watching your videos. UI work as a academic counselor for medical students and your videos give me more insight and information to better support the students I work with. 9:18 I also found a lot of course directors I have met and talked to truly cared about their students.
So glad that you discussed Dental school tuition. My husband recently retired as a dentist. We wanted to find an associate to buy his practice but with the student loans that new dentists have to pay back, buying a practice is simply out of reach. We ended up selling to a DSO which wasn't what we wanted for our patients.
that bit about NYU Med being tuition-free made me think, would you be willing to do a video on how to go to med school and become a doctor, like the most economically favorable ways to do it (e.g. schools with free tuition), how to prepare in high school, how to pick a med school that will ensure you find a high-quality employer? my daughter's eyeing CSEE but i want her to know there are other options for a successful career that makes a difference if her top pick doesn't work out.
Sounds like some places are trying to head in the right direction when it comes to education. But for everyone that had to be a trailblazer for everyone now are like not ok lol. They seriously need relief and debt forgiveness and it's not really happening.
I thought I was the only one who hated the Krebs cycle unit in my AP Bio class. It was the hardest unit right after genetics, but I pulled through, and passed the unit test with the highest score in class, a high score of 66 😂
One thing I want to clear to everyone is, we, dental students have to study most of the things if not everything that medical students study. AND we have to study the dental subjects also. Actually the teeth part comes almost at the end of our schooling. They first teach you how the whole body works as Dr. Daniel said. This is one of my favourite video. Thank you Dr. Mike.
Pediatrics and gynecology is not included usually in dentistry if you just study internal medicine you would get completely lost so dental students dont study all that med students
Actually we do 😅 I kid you not, it's in my classes next year. Gynecology, pediatrics (we also have a separate subject of pediatric dentistry), ENT, neurology, ophthalmology, pathology, general surgery as well as maxillofacial surgery and so on.
Dental students don't learn pathology and physiology in the same detail as med students do. They learn general systemic Physiology, pharmacology and pathology but not to the same detail.
@@deepakhiremath6171 This is wrong. We literally have pathology exams on how to identify even the rarest of neoplasms and cancers and pharmacology exams for the types of medications, classes, and management
5:12 another thing thats crazy about this is my wife (a nurse, went to nursing school) had to do the same gyah damn thing! its amazing to see how nurses go through almost identical studies of diseases, anatomy, prescription drugs but get paid astronomically different for their services. nurses still get paid very well and are not qualified to do a lot of the things doctors do. it reminds me of how a line cook is to a head chef.
As a lay person, I can see why Dental school would be harder. Just because people often overlook how connected the rest of our health is to our mouths and oral health. And a lot of people (in the US at least) visit the dentist for regular appointments but may only go to the doctor if they "need" to, so my guess would be that dentists are often the first to notice potential symptoms in patients with certain conditions not necessarily directly related to dental work.
Dentistry is tougher than people give it credit for, so dentists are definitely more underrated than doctors. In terms of difficulty and how much you need to invest (both financially and mentally), becoming a physician is definitively tougher though
Good idea! I'd love to see that too:) I bet someone in psych would enlighten others that the field is not easy. You have to know so much to actually do a decent job in that field
I was a victim of hurricane Sandy as well I was just a kid then, 8 years old, I was one of the lucky ones, my house only lost power. Watching the news then was terrifying knowing that I could be in a lot worse situation.
Exactly doc Mike... its really hard to become a dentist its like a shortcut to having a specialization, but we also have to know everything about the body
I think it would be so funny for you guys to try different DAT vs. MCAT questions. I think Dr. Mike would be surprised at what pre-dental students have to study to get into dental school!
When I took the DAT, the only real differences between the DAT and the MCAT was the DAT had no physics (even though physics is a requirement for admission to dental school and you kinda need it to understand certain aspects of physiology: the body uses electricity!) and the DAT had perceptual ability which … I guess you can kinda practice for with sample exams but you can’t really study for. I just looked and it seems basically the same. And, I thought so then and think even more so after practicing dentistry 20 something years: the perceptual ability test is kinda nonsense. I think there’s this old fashioned myth with dentistry that there’s this innate, artistic talent that’s required: “good hands,” “good eyes,” and good perceptual ability. It’s nonsense imo. It’s all learned abilities that come with practice like any other skills. Yeah, if you have a “knack” for that stuff when you start dental school, maybe you’ll have a slight head start on your first wax ups and preps; but we all pick it up to the point it becomes “second nature” soon enough. It’s not required to be first nature. All it does is work to kinda discourage some potential dentists.
I would love to hear if they taught dentists serious "bedside manner" and how anxiety patients are thought of/dealt with. For those of us who ABSOLUTELY HATE going to the dentist with every fiber of my being, I wonder if it's touched on in their school. I remember I was getting a root canal one day and a tear rolled out of my eye and the dentist asked me, "You doing ok?" and I told him, "Well I have gone through labor and delivery with two children and I would rather be back in the hospital in labor than be sitting in this chair right now."
I will say that a dentist I know is actually one of the best Drs I know. His "bedside" manner is better than most I've ever seen. I really think it depends on the person and if it's their true calling.
To some extent we are. Different people are better at it than others. We had a decent amount of training on pharmacological management of anxiety. However, we aren't psychiatrists. Some people are very resistant to any effort to make things more comfortable. I get lots of compliments on making things easier than people expected and I still have plenty of people who get extremely pissed off at me because I'm not their old dentist or because I can't accommodate bizarre or unrealistic requests.
in our dental school we are taking a subject called behavioral science, the main goal is to help us learn how to be able to act with deferent patients and deferent scenarios, looking into anxiety, depression and many things but not very deeply, enough to help us interact correctly with patients.
Why do I get these random back chills from time to time when nothing out of the ordinary is happening? It's very rare, but sometimes I'll just get this random chill that runs up and down my spine for a second or two and then it goes away for like a month and a half.
Mahalo to both of you. And to all the DR's & Dentist's out there👍🥰❣️ I have had the same Dentist since I was 15 years old, currently, 48. My family has ONLY had 2 different Primary Care Physicians for 27 years 👍🥰❣️ We have been with our current PCP For 14 years as of this current January. 💞 ALOHA FROM HAWAI'I 💞🌹 LYSSA 🌹
I am 10 and I've wanted to be a doctor since I was 3. More specifically I want to be an Labor and Deliveriy Doctor and Dr. Mike has inspired me to follow my dreams. Coming from a family with less money than others, it's been tough but I always think of my grades and me getting high honor role in every grade since preschool. I think a little to much about my grades and get stressed out a lot and just watching Dr.Mike I have been less worried Thank you Dr. Mike hope Bear is well and fluffier than ever❤
My Mom is a lawyer, my Dad is a spine surgeon, my grandfather is a dentist, my grandmother is a nurse anesthetist (CRNA), and I am a veterinarian. I would love us to play this game. 😂
Richest family ever
What about u?
@@PingJia-cg9rn, what?
Holy! Amazing family
Is veterinarian very hard?
Very very impressive FAMILY!💯
At age 12 it was my dentist who informed me that my heart rate was too rapid and to see a cardiologist. So I truly believe that dentists are taught more that just teeth.
I just watch another video detailing differences. I kinda figured before but I’m more convinced, Dentists can answer your non dental questions or if they are doing something dental and find something non dental, they have a idea what’s going on. The main thing is dentists can’t treat dr stuff and drs can’t treat dentists stuff even though they learned a lot of the same things prior to dental/ med school
I think Dr. Daniel said something like that at the beginning of the vid
@@MrSportsUploader I'm a dental student and my neighbor/friend is a medical student (the same year as me) and while medical school is definitely harder because of the amount of stress and care you do with patients, you'd be surprised on how much we need to learn. Essentially, our first two years are taught mainly by medical school professors. We are told we have to learn about the entire body to recognize other diseases and refer out to a doctor if need be but to do that we need to learn about all these different types of diseases. I've learned about the heart, brain, lungs, GI, everything you can think of, and the diseases related to them but we don't learn how to treat them (we do but only to a certain extent) we mainly are focusing on the kind of systematic damage that can be done and symptoms that are related to be able to recognize them. We learn a lot about how systemic health is related to dental health and vice versa, so it's important to recognize how connected the body is because it's just that, so if one disease were to spread, it can reach other areas and cause other issues.
Dentists are taught about the whole body but their focus is the mouth
Dentists are taught about all body biological systems even at the cellular (cell) level.
Dental vs Medical school is one of the most respectable & peaceful battles in history
yea
@@michael04__806 no
Yo we got two Breaking Bad characters in here
Nahh
I do food reviews while I’m high on my RUclips channel, just a young youngin tryna make it
My Dad was a dentist. I do remember him talking about the cadaver labs that he would have and tests on the entire human body, not just the mouth and teeth.
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Dr. Mike, most dental diseases can be caused by systemic conditions like autoimmune diseases and cardiovascular disease. That's why it's important for us to learn about everything. Without it, our ability to accurately diagnose our patients would be compromised😆
Literally, thank you. Not to mention how enormous the role of biochemistry is in the oral cavity with things like digestion, exposure, immune response, treatment, etc.. OH, and the fact that the tissue is soft, highly innervated, incredibly vascular, containing glands of varying function…. like…. I’m only describing the gingiva man, why are MDs always having to make it as if Dentists are inferior??? Dental health easily plays a huge role in homeostasis… I better hush cause I’m rambling and could go on about this forever.
@@walkininsomnia Not to mention chronic periodontitis can cause inflammatory factors to spread from the mouth to the heart and damage your heart over time. That one surprised me when I learned it (I know you know this, I'm just enthusiastically info dumping lol).
I would love to see med school vs vet school!
Yes would love to see this!
I was about to say this.
That is a more apples-to-apples comparison to be honest --- both schools teach a broad variety of basically the same topics --- just different species of patients 😂
@@kerzytibok3211 well vet school is still very much different since you are dealing with many different species of animals as opposed to just humans. Pre vet school is also drastically different from pre med minus the gen eds
@@piagebot2943 I really don't think there is much difference in pre-vet vs. pre-med classes --- they are like 95% the same at most universities, with only the upper bio classes being different
Totally need Medical vs Veterinary school next! I'm sure that Bear can recommend a veterinarian for that!
Nice. 😎
Yes!!
My mom and step-dad are both vets! I'll ask them on their opinion about which is harder
@juni so which one is harder?
Vet school is hard! Hard to the core. Humans just know one species, one physiology one anatomy.
A surgeon may have extended my life, but I’m forever grateful for two of the best dentist ever, who gave me quality of life.
when dental care was non existent, if you had a tooth infection there was a 10-40% chance that you can die from the tooth infection 😅. Oral disease can also lead to heart attacks and strokes if left untreated. Dentists never get enough credit, they too are saving lives and extending yours 🙂
Dentists and surgeons both extend life and quality of life --- that is proven by facts
@@kerzytibok3211 yes
My dentist has been way more on top of long-term issues I'd have from radiation treatment I'd had for cancer in my youth than pretty much any doctor I've had. Not just the obvious teeth/bone/saliva mouth stuff. He figured out how to realign my teeth and bite when I'd been told I could never have braces again. I can't tell you how much a difference that has made in my life.
Loved reading this as a dental student 🥹
100% agree with the krebs cycle bit. Nobody remembers that after graduation and interpersonal/communication skills are far more important
same here. I'm a biologist who studied in Germany and I had to face that one too. Was hard to remember it even for the exam.
eh the krebs cycle i leanred that in ap bio
@@Darkcamera45 Yea but do u remember it
As someone who is a board certified dentist and a physician (yes, I went to dental school and medical school, I finished Biochemistry prior) I think the dentist was trying to say that they have to study the entire system prior to dentally treating patients holistically. You will see patients in dental infirmaries who has systemic conditions such as HIV/AIDS, DM, lupus, hypertension, you name it. Not to mention there are patients who are allergic to some sort of dental materials, also, many lesions of the skin are also clinically present in the mouth such as HPVs, nevi, hemangiomas, different types of tumors, ulcerations, even SCC etc
Are you an omfs surgeon?
I love how stubborn they both are. The angst on Dr. Mike's face totally says 'I will not be defeated', yet he seemed to be more and more impressed by the dentist as the video went on. I think he'd underestimated how hard dental school is. It was great to hear about both med school and dentist school but I'm still firmly Team Med School. Whose team are you on?
Shut up you melt
While I thought I wanted to work as a nurse for the longest time, it just didn’t seem interesting or exciting to me. I recently got really into dentistry, specifically a dental hygienist! And I can’t wait till I go to school for it
I have two twin siblings. One in dental the other in med school. And i can confirm med school is harder by a long shot.
@@ramithair2846 2 sets of twins?
@@D_A_Marv no just twins :)
I'm so glad dentists are being appreciated in this video sometimes I feel like as fellow healthcare workers we always get pushed back and often not given much appreciation just because our field is "mainly" revolving around the oral cavity doesn't mean we didn't have to study everything else medical students did! People often forget that everything in the human body is related, your oral health basically affects everything in your body and most often many diseases can be first spotted from your oral health.
The basic problem is that snobbery has existed in medicine for a long time --- brain surgeons will always mock and belittle family doctors and pediatricians
I think people hate dentists because they try to trick you into spending more than you need to. A lot like mechanics. 😅
@@K0sm1cKid While I do think some dentists value their income above patients' care, but this applies to any other health care worker out there and this is by no means acceptable whatsoever but it is unfortunately commonly occurring especially in many dental clinics so I do get where you're coming from especially since most students had to take so many loans for dental school they're blinded by greed (hence why I seriously condemn the ridiculous amount of tuition fees schools impose). However this is only a stereotypical prejudice against us and these "self-proclaimed" drs should get their licenses provoked! I get so enraged whenever I hear cases like this happening. There are so many hardworking dentists out there who are seriously working through their debts and struggling just to see their patients smile confidently again. I hope these drs get as much encouragement and appreciation as they deserve.
most professional healthcare workers know the importance of a dentist, not just in a traditional sense but also in roles like oral pathologist and maxillofacial surgeons.
@@K0sm1cKid I think dentists seem shady because most people don't have dental insurance and have to pay with cash --- so they automatically assume the dentist is over-charging for a lot of stuff
Something that wasn’t expressed in this video that I think is a major difference between dental and med school is the the amount of labs that Dental student take while also taking the same classes as the med students. Dental students have to focus on studying and several practicals week in and week out for the first two years and it is extremely time consuming. I will say however that even tho dental do take the same classes as med we don’t put heavy emphasis on certain organ systems that we would never deal with but enough to be able to recognize pathology so that we could help the patient get the care they need because we see patients more often than most other providers. Coming from a second year dental student love the content!
the level of content you need to retain is kinda diff. whilst in dental school you mostly learn it once and mostly forget about it other than the head and neck anatomies and pathologies. however that time is diverted into focusing on hands on procedures.
Yeah the only really obvious part of dental school that is harder than med school is the labs and developing your manual skills. You have to be ready to practice as a general dentist by the time you graduate, whereas someone can graduate med school and not even know how to give a flu vaccine or bandage a paper cut LOL
In a perfect world, yes dentists see their patients more regularly than other providers. But given the state of dental insurance, and how many folks have dental phobias, I am pretty confident that a large number of the US population sees their doctor more often than their dentist.
@@evercuriousmichelle what dental phobias are you referring to?
@Its ChloeAnn RIP ur poor attention span
I paused the video and named 10 organs and I haven't been this proud in a long time.
It'd be really cool to see you do this challenge with a veterinarian (DVM). Both fields have challenges, but it would be interesting to see their similarities and differences.
0:25 - Dental School vs Medical school, which is harder ?
1:40 - Where did you go to school and for how long ?
2:55 - How many schools did you apply & to how many were you accepted ?
4:00 - Best part of the school
6:40 - The cost
7:10 - Mid roll ads
8:10 - Worst part of the school
9:15 - The professors
9:55 - Best memories
11:25 - Student life
12:40 - Ideas for change
14:45 - Advice from the alumnis
16:00 - Which is harder (round 2)
PS: A tooth for a tooth ? Eye , Eye !
Ironic that he is talking about student debt being a problem in the same video with an advert for SoFi a company currently suing against student loan forbearance and forgiveness
@@nedfainted WHAT
Thank you for writing it.
Thank you.
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This video grabbed my attention as I am a dental student. Didn't even notice that 17 minutes have passed already. I had fun watching this video as I learn between dental and med school.😃
Interesting! I want to be a dental hygienist. How is your school experience??
So far I enjoyed my dental school experience even though it gets tough often. But as long as you're passionate with your course, you can go through it.
@@heurikajaneestroga1540 I’m glad you’re enjoying it! I can’t wait till I start studying for it. Oh btw, what are you going for?
I'm not sure what you're asking about, but currently, I'm studying general dentistry course.
@@heurikajaneestroga1540 Ohh, I didn’t know if you were going to be an ortho, dentist, hygienist etc
That dentist was very humble, I’m in dental hygiene school and the amount of education for any dental program is SEVERELY UNDERRATED!! We have to understand the entire human body, it’s functions, medications, learn the MANY instruments/how to use them. Learn the laws according to the state, insurance and codes 😭😭 FINALLY TEETH!! Obviously the mouth is connected to the body, people seem to forget this ?? Don’t make me get into the endless diseases of the oral cavity and how your oral health DOES affect your overall health (and vice versa). You both are awesome DOCTORS!!
how is the journey and if you are going to dental school what advise would you give me on what to take for bachelors degree?
Good on you for wanting to donate. My nan passed away due to complications from Parkinson’s in 2017 and she donated her body to Washington University Medical School. My grandfather intends to do that same…he survived polio with no resulting physical issues, as well as a stroke, and he speaks multiple languages (he was also an immigrant). I hope that bright young medical minds will learn much from them both and that they’ll end up doing great things.
Their chemistry is amazing, they’re hilarious together.
No one makes better content than Doctor Mike! Keep up the great work man!
^ facts, absolute facts bro
Ryan george exists dude
*Alfaoxtrot* joined the chat
Mama Doctor Jones has a good content.
honestly, i find it weird that dentistry is not just another specialty under medicine.
It is! They give you has, medicine, write prescriptions!
I find it weird that as a dental ceramist/dental cosmetic lab owner we still have to keep explaining that the mouth is a part of the body...no eat ..no live..no teeth...soft bad diet..bad health/body🫰🏾🪴
@@alexischarest378he means a residency like surgery EM FM
Actually many oral surgeons hold a dual dental and medical degree --- they have to go to both schools for a total of six years? You will see "DDS-MD" after their name.
@@alexischarest378 I’m pretty sure they mean it in the sense that dentists don’t have their MD/DO then match into dentistry for residency like a dermatologist would match into dermatology residency. Instead they have to go to an entirely different type of school and obtain a different degree.
I’m a dental hygienist who was previously in a nursing program prior to choosing dentistry. Both Medical and Dental are super super hard, and becoming an MD or DDS are HUGE successes. But what I like about dentistry is that while yes you have to be very detail oriented because you are working in such a small space, a dentist can also speculate if a or has a certain medical condition by pre screening the other, checking the oral cavity, even, checking if their is any chemical erosion of teeth, even the breath of the patient (fruity breath- possible diabetic diagnosis) and therefore encourage our patients to get a physical so that they can get checked out. Medical and Dental can most definitely work hand in hand! ❤
Medical or Dentistry, both schools have their own struggles and stresses, in different ways, of course. However, the fact that both schools are very hard can only mean that the survivors of both are strong heroes and are highly respectable!
Thank you for this content.
We saw real patients in med school too. They also had us doing procedures like closing after surgery and delivering babies. We rarely had standardized patients. Definitely one of my favorite parts of med school
I fully support body donation. My mom donated her body to medical school with the hope of helping someone learn something that would save other people. She was a wonderful person who I miss every day, but I'm proud that her last act in this world was one of kindness.
Your Mom was a very selfless and charitable person for doing that. I think it's pretty dumb to put a dead body into the ground where it serves no purpose.
Thank you Dr. Mike and Dr. Rubinshtein! Could you do an episode on med school vs vet school? I’d love to watch it!
From what I heard there are many many medical schools but not many vet schools I heard vet is harder I’d love to see as well 🌻🌻🌻
@@tmaffeo yeah and most get paid less
@@tmaffeo not many vet schools so admissions is fierce --- but whether that makes it "tougher" academically is a more complex question
I’d also like to know if a vet is more competent than average at medically helping a human.
Yes, good idea!
I really needed the video. Currently having a tough moment in my career and hearing the words: don’t let one test, class, or moment discourage you for continuing with your journey really helped lift up my spirits.
Thank you.
Oh yeah don't sweat it. Chances are if you don't do as well as you were going for, you can probably take the class again to possibly replace the previous grade to bump your gpa up. Takes a little longer but you'll get it better the second time around. 😊 Its bound to happen at some point in your educational career. Especially if life circumstances keep you from focusing on school.
I do work as an SP (Standardised Patient) its really rewarding being able to somewhat guide the students through my own symptoms to a diagnosis. Feels good when the students get it right because that just means im doing my job right!
As a dental student (maybe I’m biased) but we have the same general school structure, 2 years of sciences then 2 years of practicing on patients but along with the sciences, we spend the first two years learning and trying to master the hand skills. Im team dental 🦷
Favorite thing about med/dental school:
Dr. Daniel: Treating and helping people
Dr. Mike: Playing with dead people's bodies
Awesome to see one of my dental school classmates doing well. And as someone who has a best friend that is a neurologist, we both complained equally about dental school and med school.
Love the shout out to Improv!
Been an improv instructor for 8 years and I constantly say how beneficial it can be for everyday use, not just for the stage. Listening is vital
This was a great segment guys. These are the type of videos our children need. Thank you both 🫶🏾
0:26: 🦷 Dr. Daniel discusses the differences between dental school and medical school.
2:55: 😄 The speakers discuss their experiences in dental and medical school and the unique challenges they faced.
5:49: 😅 Dr. Daniel shares his experiences in medical and dental school, including the cool and spooky aspects, the cost of tuition, and the frequency of exams.
8:34: 🎓 The speakers reflect on their experiences in dental and medical school, highlighting the challenges, the importance of mentors, and the process of discovering their true passions.
11:46: 📚 The interviewee describes their personal life during medical or dental school, highlighting the importance of balancing personal life and studies.
14:46: 👨⚕ The importance of staying motivated and focused in medical or dental school despite challenges and toxic environments.
Recap by Tammy AI with useful time stamps =)
I am glad to see dental get a little love on this channel. My sister is a dentist. Most people don't think about just how much school they have to do or how much Dentists really know! And no they don't just want to torture you lol
Honestly, I don’t think it is a competition. They’re both probably about equally hard. Also, kudos to anyone who becomes an oral surgeon. I had to have my teeth taken out and replaced with bridges, and my oral surgeon made it very clear what could happen. She walked me through every step of it. It turns out, she also does Botox. Which I found extremely helpful to deal with lockjaw issues.
I am a first year dental student who has to commute 1 hour to/from school and I am also grappling with loss in my family, so I really resonated with what you said about dissociating from your class and medical community. It is nice to know I'm not alone. Also I have this debate with my med school friends and everyone I know outside of the medical world who all think medical school is so much longer and harder than dental school, so thank you to Dr. Rubinshtein representing us well!
I would like to be a dentist too. Did you take student loans? If so, how much? How many years are you going to spend in school + residency + anything else before working? What dental school are you going to? How did you do in highschool? What major did you stuy in college? What is your plan after Dental school? I'm sorry if these are a lot fo questions, I've being looking online for answers but I feel like it would be best to hear from an actual person.
Hi Chelsea, I'm truly sorry for your loss, and I want to extend my heartfelt condolences. Dealing with such challenges while managing dental school and a long commute can be incredibly tough. You're not alone, and your determination is truly commendable. Also, congratulations on making it this far in your journey.
My mother donated her body to a cadaver unit. It was a very good experience. Now they charge a fee to donate…which I don’t understand. A few years later I was teaching in a HOSA class and the cadaver unit was brought in. It was absolutely incredible. I’ll never forget it!
Hi there! How are you doing and I hope you're having a great day! I was going through my RUclips when I saw your nice profile, I couldn't get my eyes of you so I decided to add you up as my lovely friend.
i'm currently finishing my last year in Dental Hygiene school and I loved that both careers blend so well, I agree that dental school crams a lot more in to inevitably focus on one topic but I can completely understand how a Med Dr. has more responsibilities overall, there is something to be said about the quality of dexterity a Dentist must have to be able to perform the tasks at hand.
As a senior dental student this was really entertaining . All dental students hate phantom patients right? I will watch this video with my med school friends for sure!
This video about Dental School from Dr. Daniel and Medical School from Dr. Mike was very informative and educational, so “Don't let Exams or Classes stop you from the main goal in the End” and “Do it for the right reasons” one of the best things you can do is help others in whatever Career Path you choose to work in👍🏾.
I wonder how many people feel the pressure to change majors especially in undergrad. I feel the number is up there
Loved it. would love to see more, maybe pharmacy school, optometry school and all the others. Pretty amazing
Yeah variety would get more people interested in watching especially if they're on the fence about what field to join.
Haha that’s funny, I’m donating my body too! Because I went to community college for A&P which was my first experience with a cadaver. It was a 18+ year cadaver, an elderly man they had kept him in workable condition to teach for that many years. My professor told me she stopped eating jerky, and when we visualized our cadaver, I understood why. I immediately decided I was going to donate my body because there just aren’t enough specimens to educate medical providers in training. (Although I’m also an organ donor, so that comes first, and the schools can take whatever is left afterwards. I think I would make a fantastic skeleton for the anatomy lab!) Good for you Doc Mike!
Wow! I have so much respect for organ donors, I'm personally only willing to donate to my future child, perhaps a spouse or close friend but the list ends there lol. kudos to you :)
I’m in optometry school and we have to do two exams and two quizzes per week. 11 courses. Crazy how we all are worked so much!
I'm in med school, and I loved cadaver lab too. Obviously the bodies are anonymous, but I kept wondering then to myself if some of them might have been doctors who once too did cadaver lab, and donated their bodies for future med students. Like closing a circle. I think I too wanna donate my body to future med students. It's kind of a beautiful thought.
I am going to donate my body to a med school.
I've always wondered if people doing cadaver labs wonder about the people they're doing labs on. I kind of like the idea of students learning about the human body using my dead body some day, and it's kind of nice to think they might take a moment to wonder who I was.
One of the weird things I always thought about is what happens if a med student knows the body when that person was alive? There is no way I could rip apart a family member or a friend in a cadaver lab!
@@kerzytibok3211 my university is danish, and we swap/trade bodies with, I think it was the netherlands, but in any case another european country. So we get their bodies, they get ours, this to avoid a situation like you mentioned, which would be absolutely horrifying, of course.
Aww it's kind of like them paying it forward to the future of medicine. I never thought of it like that. If it was for those reasons they really gave it their all to medicine.
So funny to hear Dr. Rubinshtein say he always wanted to be a dentist as one of my old classmates was the same. I only met him in middle school, but he always had that laser focus.
I would love to see Dr. Mike and a PharmD (Pharmacist) do this. I think that would be a cool take on this type of friendly banter between the HCPs.
I agree. You wouldn't think it but pharmacists have to know a ton too. Plus all the natural stuff too, it's so much info
Pharmacy is harder than med school. The pharmacist has to know every disease and medication on the planet.
Yeah I would love to see that as I'm going to be a future Dr in pharmacy 😁
@@lillybarnett4027 , they definitely KNOW more than doctors about what meds to take. My friend tells me what to ask my doctor in regards to meds. He knows my friend and basically, gives me what I need (and some times, wants b/c he knows I don’t take meds if I don’t want to…)
@@kaleimaile always nice to have stuff if needed. IF NEEDED:)
The streams and pools of dentistry and medical and eyes… it’s really quite impactful.
I'm blessed to have found a graduate program that was low in tuition and was based on case studies, practicum and internship, and building rapport with the professors and classmates. Standardized testing was the least of my worries. Choosing a career in psychology and Clinical Mental Health Counseling was the best decision for me.
I can’t believe that someone else beside me felt the same about how commuting can be a bad idea especially when you are in a medical field.
Can totally relate to you Dr.Mike!
Love the content! Can you do med school vs grad school (e.g. biology)? It could be fun!
I agree!!! Like general/life sciences with medical science would be so cool
That might be very useful to a lot of undergrads since some people get grad degrees before going to med school --- it could let them know the major differences!
well in my country we do 2 years of school after highschool which is equivalent to American undergraduate the major difference here is Physics and chemistry that isn't related to health sciences and also the major part of biology in undergraduate was focused on botany and zoology.
I love how Mike is just sitting crossed legged in the chair with no shoes on, while Dr. R is like in lab coat, feet flat on the ground.
Good observation, I didn't notice the no socks. 😆 I love how comfortable he is on camera though just being himself. Pretty sure that was one of his goals in the channel was to get people to understand Drs are just regular people. 😊
@Lilly Barnett Didn't notice I put socks originally and not shoes 😅. But yeah, I love how Dr. Mike isn't just a doctor giving medical advice, but he boxes and reacts, and shows his dog.
Loved this post. It was to learn more about the dental training etc. I worked in the medical field for 49 yrs so I know what doctors go through to become a doctor. Dr Mike what you are doing with your videos, are so important in helping people with medical issues, educating and options in care. I am donating my body to our medical sch where I live. I have diffuse systemic scleroderma with all of the things that happen w/ this autoimmune I am dealing with, every organ is damaged, Raynaud, Sjogren's, Crest etc etc. I had a stroke with all the circulatory issues and I was also dx w/ multiple myeloma. So I think having this body I hope we can learn more and maybe change the lives dealing with these diseases.
Family footsteps…. So amazing
Aww, I'm Latvian! Makes me so happy to hear that other Latvians are out there and doing so great in their lifes :)) I hope your mom has taught you at least a little bit of Latvian
Cauu, es ari tik loti sapriecajos :) prieks redzēt letiņus
Medical jobs are so fascinating to me. Like an anesthesiologist controls wether someone lives or dies
I wanna be an anesthesiologist but this still scares me 😂
This is correct. Technically I have the entire cocktail needed for the lethal injection in my anesthesia drawer (potassium, long-acting paralytic, midazolam).
my senior in med school ,an anesthesia resident offed himself for who knows why. he was a very smart doctor and in the end he used his knowledge to make a cocktail of fluids to inject into his body to pass away painlessly. very dark i know, but we hear things like in med school quite often.
Hi doctor Mike! Can you also do vet school vs med school?
Just commented the same thing! Really want to see what the differences are.
Personally I hope they will also talk about the purpose of treating a patient for vets (working in industries prioritises benefits rather than wellbeing), and the involvement of unethical animal products in a vet’s lifestyle. A doctor would sound insane if they say they eat or use any part of their patients under most circumstances, but many vets actually do that when we think about it. It chills me to see many of them perceiving this as the norm. Dr. Mike could use his influence to plant a little seed in every audience and make them think a bit more!
Ooh, I'd love to see that. Especially since his argument in this one can be turned against him if he's going against vet school. After all, he only has to learn how to treat one species vs having to learn about the biological systems of multiple and completely different species.
Omg this would be so cool!!
Vet is learning about animals, all sorts of animals, while med school is learning about human bodies.
Quite the big difference. But i would certainly like to see, which is harder XD
I always thought vet school would be harder just because you need to learn about multiple animals as well as conditions and diseases that a family doctor would need to learn, but you need to learn which ones affect which species. Plus vets also do general surgeries as well. It would definitely be interesting to watch.
There are a ton of posts about this so I think Mike will eventually be forced to do it
I respect both professions as they go through similar stresses and pressures in school but ultimately care for people and educate the human population! I loved this video and found it fun ❤️😂
Great video! Never knew Dental School covered so much more than just teeth. Thank you Dr. Daniel for the dental lesson. My entire family are big fans of yours and Dr. Mike!
They sure do
I’m a dental hygienist and I didn’t know what I was getting myself into! lol
We had to study pharmacology, public health, anatomy body and mouth, nutrition, office management, world diseases, special ed patients, and all kids of problems/diseases in our body and the world
Crazy.
All so I can clean and understand mouth and body while treating the mouth :) go get a checkup!!!
Bravo Mike! I would like to say that you never let us down with your videos. Keep up the great work! P.S I loved when you reacted to 5 min crafts!
These brilliant doctors mentioned cadaver labs. Two of my female friends went to Brown Medical School in Rhode Island and are both now practicing doctors. Thanks to the stories they shared with me, I am signed up to donate my body to Brown Medical School once I am done using it. I like to joke it's the only way I'll ever get in! Seriously though, there are stipulations like I have to die within a certain distance, my body has to be in one piece / useable, things like that. Still, I feel this is an exciting way to be useful and help people once I am gone.
I really enjoyed this video, and I’m happy I learned a lot more about Dental and Med school. Thank you for teaching us a lot Daniel and Mike.
My dad went to Brooklyn College and then NYU Dental School way back in the 1960s. (He said professors would smoke while treating patients! ) Anyway, he sure learned a lot of anatomy. He'd scratch and rub my back before bed growing up, and he'd name each muscle and bone, etc as he touched it. And whenever I had any sort of bodily malady, he'd tell me the name for it in Latin. Some people would tease him that he wasn't a docta docta, but he certainly knew far more than just teeth.
My grandpa was an pediatric dentist. He took such good care of his patients. He was also a dentist teacher. I miss him so much 😢
I feel there's a special place in heaven for people like this. My favorite dentist is one and he's incredible
It's like a battle for discouraging potential students by presenting all the really hard stuff these schools put one through 😂😂 I'd rather specialize in essential oils right now :)))
Lmao
My thoughts exactly 😂
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Yes🙌 we dentists have to learn all the bodily systems. Then after that, we focused on the head and neck!!
Both definitely sounds equally challenging,and most certainly equally important too.I enjoyed watching this friendly battle, watched it twice🤗
Definitely not equally challenging. There’s a reason dentists make a fraction of the salary doctors do.
@@creolechicken2.080 If you look at average salaries, a Dental GP makes more than a Medical GP and when looking at dental and medical specialties, endodontists and orthodontists make more than most medical specialists (other than surgery). In surgery, an Oral and Maxillofacial surgeon (dental specialty) is the highest paying surgical field (more than neuro and cardio surg)
Newly qualified dentist here! I know its differnet going to dental school in the UK vs US as it is (had to spend 5 years of dental before graduating in the UK) but it is really refreshing to see people talk about the differences between med and dental! couldnt get enough of this video thanks guys!
Its crazy how much a dentist have to learn also learn about the teeth is the last thing they learn. Glad I got knowledge on that.
It’d be cool to do this with a comparison to nursing school. I already know Med school is longer and more expensive and probably much, much harder, but considering the overlap of content I think it’d be cool to compare.
Very interesting. As a lay person, I only see doctors and dentists from my point of view as a patient; it's so enlightening to see your viewpoint. Thanks for what you do, Doctor Mike!
You should have these with other types of doctors! (Optometry, Pharmacy, veterinary, etc.)
0:56 I love that Dr. Mike is sitting comfortably in his socks butterfly style 😄
I love watching your videos. UI work as a academic counselor for medical students and your videos give me more insight and information to better support the students I work with. 9:18 I also found a lot of course directors I have met and talked to truly cared about their students.
The dentists I ve worked for recently have over 400,000 in school debt from JUST dental school, not including their undergrad
I might be the only one, but I’d love to see a Med school vs Vet school one!
Same
My father is a dentist and fellow NYU DS Grad. I would love to one day become and M.D. Myself, thus this video perfectly describes my life.
So glad that you discussed Dental school tuition. My husband recently retired as a dentist. We wanted to find an associate to buy his practice but with the student loans that new dentists have to pay back, buying a practice is simply out of reach. We ended up selling to a DSO which wasn't what we wanted for our patients.
This is so good! Respect to both cause it's a lot of work
that bit about NYU Med being tuition-free made me think, would you be willing to do a video on how to go to med school and become a doctor, like the most economically favorable ways to do it (e.g. schools with free tuition), how to prepare in high school, how to pick a med school that will ensure you find a high-quality employer? my daughter's eyeing CSEE but i want her to know there are other options for a successful career that makes a difference if her top pick doesn't work out.
Sounds like some places are trying to head in the right direction when it comes to education. But for everyone that had to be a trailblazer for everyone now are like not ok lol. They seriously need relief and debt forgiveness and it's not really happening.
I thought I was the only one who hated the Krebs cycle unit in my AP Bio class. It was the hardest unit right after genetics, but I pulled through, and passed the unit test with the highest score in class, a high score of 66 😂
Wait for mcat.
@@niayeshnajafi2206 not sure if I’ll be taking MCAT, I don’t want to be a physician.
Dude the Calvin cycle and Krebs cycle nearly killed me
One thing I want to clear to everyone is, we, dental students have to study most of the things if not everything that medical students study. AND we have to study the dental subjects also. Actually the teeth part comes almost at the end of our schooling. They first teach you how the whole body works as Dr. Daniel said. This is one of my favourite video. Thank you Dr. Mike.
Pediatrics and gynecology is not included usually in dentistry if you just study internal medicine you would get completely lost so dental students dont study all that med students
Actually we do 😅 I kid you not, it's in my classes next year. Gynecology, pediatrics (we also have a separate subject of pediatric dentistry), ENT, neurology, ophthalmology, pathology, general surgery as well as maxillofacial surgery and so on.
Dental students don't learn pathology and physiology in the same detail as med students do. They learn general systemic Physiology, pharmacology and pathology but not to the same detail.
@@deepakhiremath6171 This is wrong. We literally have pathology exams on how to identify even the rarest of neoplasms and cancers and pharmacology exams for the types of medications, classes, and management
@@FraYooo Read my comment again - not to the same detail. There is a difference.
5:12 another thing thats crazy about this is my wife (a nurse, went to nursing school) had to do the same gyah damn thing! its amazing to see how nurses go through almost identical studies of diseases, anatomy, prescription drugs but get paid astronomically different for their services.
nurses still get paid very well and are not qualified to do a lot of the things doctors do. it reminds me of how a line cook is to a head chef.
Hey!! I work as a standardized patient!! It’s so under-known, I’ve never heard someone talk about it before!
Lads, please 😅 let’s agree they’re both super hard work and both take dedication!! 😂
As a lay person, I can see why Dental school would be harder. Just because people often overlook how connected the rest of our health is to our mouths and oral health. And a lot of people (in the US at least) visit the dentist for regular appointments but may only go to the doctor if they "need" to, so my guess would be that dentists are often the first to notice potential symptoms in patients with certain conditions not necessarily directly related to dental work.
Dentistry is tougher than people give it credit for, so dentists are definitely more underrated than doctors. In terms of difficulty and how much you need to invest (both financially and mentally), becoming a physician is definitively tougher though
Do psychology vs medical next! I wanna do psychology and it’ll be fun to see psych vs med
Good idea! I'd love to see that too:) I bet someone in psych would enlighten others that the field is not easy. You have to know so much to actually do a decent job in that field
I was a victim of hurricane Sandy as well I was just a kid then, 8 years old, I was one of the lucky ones, my house only lost power. Watching the news then was terrifying knowing that I could be in a lot worse situation.
Exactly doc Mike... its really hard to become a dentist its like a shortcut to having a specialization, but we also have to know everything about the body
I think it would be so funny for you guys to try different DAT vs. MCAT questions. I think Dr. Mike would be surprised at what pre-dental students have to study to get into dental school!
When I took the DAT, the only real differences between the DAT and the MCAT was the DAT had no physics (even though physics is a requirement for admission to dental school and you kinda need it to understand certain aspects of physiology: the body uses electricity!) and the DAT had perceptual ability which … I guess you can kinda practice for with sample exams but you can’t really study for. I just looked and it seems basically the same. And, I thought so then and think even more so after practicing dentistry 20 something years: the perceptual ability test is kinda nonsense. I think there’s this old fashioned myth with dentistry that there’s this innate, artistic talent that’s required: “good hands,” “good eyes,” and good perceptual ability. It’s nonsense imo. It’s all learned abilities that come with practice like any other skills. Yeah, if you have a “knack” for that stuff when you start dental school, maybe you’ll have a slight head start on your first wax ups and preps; but we all pick it up to the point it becomes “second nature” soon enough. It’s not required to be first nature. All it does is work to kinda discourage some potential dentists.
well what about pharmacist ?
just a hero behind the scene , in fact the one who made medicine is pharmacist, the one who heal is medicine
I would love to hear if they taught dentists serious "bedside manner" and how anxiety patients are thought of/dealt with. For those of us who ABSOLUTELY HATE going to the dentist with every fiber of my being, I wonder if it's touched on in their school. I remember I was getting a root canal one day and a tear rolled out of my eye and the dentist asked me, "You doing ok?" and I told him, "Well I have gone through labor and delivery with two children and I would rather be back in the hospital in labor than be sitting in this chair right now."
I will say that a dentist I know is actually one of the best Drs I know. His "bedside" manner is better than most I've ever seen. I really think it depends on the person and if it's their true calling.
To some extent we are. Different people are better at it than others. We had a decent amount of training on pharmacological management of anxiety.
However, we aren't psychiatrists. Some people are very resistant to any effort to make things more comfortable. I get lots of compliments on making things easier than people expected and I still have plenty of people who get extremely pissed off at me because I'm not their old dentist or because I can't accommodate bizarre or unrealistic requests.
Depends on individuals
in our dental school we are taking a subject called behavioral science, the main goal is to help us learn how to be able to act with deferent patients and deferent scenarios, looking into anxiety, depression and many things but not very deeply, enough to help us interact correctly with patients.
Great video Dr. Mike!! Love the respectful compare/contrast video!!!!
Why do I get these random back chills from time to time when nothing out of the ordinary is happening?
It's very rare, but sometimes I'll just get this random chill that runs up and down my spine for a second or two and then it goes away for like a month and a half.
Doctor mike is so entertaining yet underrated
Oh spot on. He's so entertaining and actually really funny. And even thought he's everywhere he's very down to earth:)
Mahalo to both of you. And to all the DR's & Dentist's out there👍🥰❣️ I have had the same Dentist since I was 15 years old, currently, 48. My family has ONLY had 2 different Primary Care Physicians for 27 years 👍🥰❣️ We have been with our current PCP For 14 years as of this current January. 💞 ALOHA FROM HAWAI'I 💞🌹 LYSSA 🌹
God bless both of you! And we’re lucky there are people out there like you who take care of our medical and dental problems ❤
I am 10 and I've wanted to be a doctor since I was 3. More specifically I want to be an Labor and Deliveriy Doctor and Dr. Mike has inspired me to follow my dreams. Coming from a family with less money than others, it's been tough but I always think of my grades and me getting high honor role in every grade since preschool.
I think a little to much about my grades and get stressed out a lot and just watching Dr.Mike I have been less worried
Thank you Dr. Mike hope Bear is well and fluffier than ever❤
As a latvian, dr. Rubenshtein being half Latvian made me so, so happy:)🇱🇻