Cyn Santana is right. Black men DO treat Latinas better.
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The world is not woke. Awakening maybe, but not woke. Please.
Vlad the guru ,Ummm, some people also like the smell of farts. MOST do not .
It's true that black men have deep self-hatred issues, that's why they worship anyone who isn't black, I feel sorry for them.
Armor King ,Seems that black women share that same self hatred black men have. Black women are no different
Vlad the guru ,I'm not interested in black men so I really have no say so about black men bad or good to be honest, but I'm open to all races. I've never said anything bad about black men, that's mostly darkskinned women who are bashing black men not me.
If Joe Budden is the best black man she could come up with then it's really nothing to fret over.
right appears to be sugary as a donut
and Cardiac B can have offset
@TwinkleStar he isn't the worst but again, if that's her best, we dont need to be concerned about her comments. He isn't a prize in my opinion but I feel what you mean regarding how hard Black women have to work
Jasmine R. 👍👍👍👍👍
Aren't they (Cyn and Joe) having problems
@TwinkleStar
A woman beating drug addict? Money ain't everything boo. He was beating the crap out of that other girl
I once dated a black man that once said something to me that had stayed in my mind and confused me for the longest time. After watching this video I can see why it did. He said to me, “i want you in my bed undressed with your light skin against mine.” When I heard that I remember being confused and frankly quite turned off cause I by no means found his comment romantic nor sexy either, whatever intention he had was beyond me. The part that confused me the most was that I have never considered myself light skinned despite being Latina, but I can see that colorism is real and that’s a huge disappointment. It’s a disappointment that black women have to continuously fight to feel appreciated, particularly by their own men. No woman despite their color, life expectancies or age should feel excluded from being loved. Black women should be loved and appreciated just as light skin women. All men were born out of a woman and it’s shame that many like to forget that. Stay strong my beautiful queens!
Ashley, wow thanks!!!! In tears here.
Beautifully said and appreciated. You are beautiful. We are all beautiful. All colors are beautiful.
Beautiful comment girl
Well said
Ashley Grajeda So well said
Interesting how Latina women get called crazy but almost in a good way. If a black woman is acting "crazy" it's usually considered a bad thing.
Also, these people are forgetting that black and Spanish/Latino are not mutually exclusive.
When Latina women are called "crazy" it's in a "spicy" or "fiery" kind of way. Obviously it's still a caricature, but it's almost portrayed as an alluring quality.
When they call black women "crazy" they usually believe that we are ghetto. But Latinas are considered feisty. Smh
Yeah any lame ass excuse to say any reason but the REAL reason they date out...they're colorist!
The crazy aspect is not really a good look. Men kind of like it but it can be too much.
@@dw3675 Its the same behavior. Screaming and yelling and cutting up his clothes is ghetto on a latina too but men think its cute because they have straight or curlt hair and a thin nose.
And ofcourse she means NON-black, light skinned Latinas, because Afro-Latinos/as exist, but are erased all the time.
Rosalinda Wijks thank you!!
Cyn is afro latina technically. She is just deluded like most Dominicans. Go over there and ask girls as dark as Amara la Negra what their race is. They will tell you they are Dominican because they conflate being "black" with being African American or African. Dark skinned afro latinas can be worse sometimes. Many want nothing to do with the concept of being black. It is more of a cultural issue than it is a racial/colorist one as mixed Dominicans also deny their black side.
@J Colón Maybe its because her black features are more pronounced but phenotypically her african ancestry stands out. Maybe it because back in brazil I see girls like her all the time and regard them as black. She looks like most light skinned black women. Compare her to the singer Mya. Most african americans are also mixed so saying she is mixed doesn't really say much.I don't think mixed and biracial are the same thing. Biracial is half and half to me. Being latino yourself you must know its almost never half and half with us due to the fact most of us also have native blood as well as african and european. With african americans its more straight forward african and european
@J Colón To be clear here, im in no way trying to claim her as a "black" person. I'm pretty much saying her african features are very pronounced and if I saw her on the street I would assume she was black mixed with something as opposed to anything else if you get what I mean. I have a similar thought process with Obama lol.
Thank you for teaching me. Much love from England.
Cyn basically stated what black women have been saying for years however when we say it we are gas lighted, called jealous and insecure. She spoke the truth and I am not mad at her.
Facts.
Yep
Agreed
kissmesoftly2 step yo game up.
Two great examples of gas lighting! “You cant change what black men prefer” and “look better/step your game up.”They say all that gas lighting stuff to and around these non black women to our detriment. That’s why these non black women feel so comfortable saying things like this out loud. It should really make you black men feel some type of way when non black women talk about you and black women like this. It shows that black men don’t care about black people and their black sisters, mothers and grandmothers. If black men the supposedly leaders in our community are uplifting non black women it states that he doesn’t value his own blackness. When you speak that “preference” talk ask yourself why do you prefer?
“Dating is about finding your audience”
Wow. NEEDED THIS.
It's true. Don't ignore all of those who are into you. Your real life fans. Whatever color or race or class. That's where you are the prize.
Well said. We need new fan clubs. Today's universal beauty standard is low weight! Only black men and women think its still about hair and light skin.
We can rise to the top of the beauty hierarchy, by losing lots of weight! I'm going to try it.
So why don't you guys date your audience than? Why care about the ones who are not your audience? Cause majority of black men are super thirsty for bw period? Are they not socially attractive? Or just lacking the funds of celebrities?
Yellow Princess listen, I don’t know where that came from BUT, I don’t think I’ve established a firm audience.. I might even go out on a limb and say that my audience aren’t people I’m attracted to.... 👀👀👀
@Yellow Princess According to the broader society, fat=ugly; and slim=attractive. It's possible to beautify ourselves by becoming thin, and tapping into that audience.
Is it OK that I am so tired of black women questioning and analyzing all the reasons why black men don't want us? Because I am. I really am tired. If you want to date me, cool. If not, that's cool too. But I am so tired of trying to convince men and myself why it's not working out. For whatever reason, I was born into this world with this worlds set of problems and I am tired of trying to figure all of this crap out. My new plan of 2019 and beyond is to love me as much as I can. And if a black man or a white man or whatever comes along to join me in the love, then welcome! But I refuse to fret over it any longer. I'm just over it.
A lot of black women are tired. I wish you well in your journey.
Thank you for this I need to do the same thing! I agree, it’s exhausting.
This is a good mindset. Let life happen. The more we worry about this and shed light on it, the bigger the problem seems to get. I think we’re all tired but some of us express it in different ways. I kinda like this way better though.
I agree and I'm only a teenager!! It sucks that this is the reality for me when I go out in the world but I'm gonna have the mindset to love who loves me regardless of race
This is the correct mindset to have... all should... You think BM aren't tired, of course we are... As a BM with awareness and love for my people, who is surrounded by and met many like me... I'm tired of all the false narratives, lack of accountability, sweeping generalizations and blanket statements that our men and women seem to accept and romanticize... keeping us divided and making our enemy more successful in our demise. I love my people, but don't like them at the same damn time. Shit is sad and pathetic. This world on a whole is just weak and wicked. Keep your spirit light. Peace.
Where can I find this audience of men that like black women who do not possess a big butt or big breast?? Asking for myself
Gilda Questions that need answers!
Holla
Some do prefer an athletic build on women not all of them are obsessed with larger body parts.
Don Dabingo Are you really this ignorant SMH The audience probably doesn't exist for most black men but white and other non black men embrace black women with petite/athletic type builds way more than BM do. What I find funny is how most of you make it clear that you won't be with women who don't have curvier type bodies yet when these women date non black men bc BM dont think they're "thick enough" they're bedwenches and everyother degrading name in the book SMH
You have to pay attention to your true audience instead of breaking your neck to attract other audiences.
“If you haven’t all the way worked through what it means to not be ‘beautiful,’ or what it means to be at the bottom of a hierarchy… Access to a certain kind of beauty allows you - this is real talk - access into certain spaces. Access to certain kinds of men.” I know in this context you’re speaking about race dynamics and colorism, I just wanted to say that as a disabled woman I also FELT this and understood exactly what you meant about the unwritten social dynamics/hierarchies surrounding ‘beauty’ that come into play.
Girl please are u comparing being a woman of color to being handicap ? Even as a handicap white woman or Latina etc whatever your ethnicity or race u still have a leg up above a black woman socially
Ebony May Oh I completely agree! I would never claim otherwise. I was just adding that I could relate to the statement within a different sort of context. I’m definitely not claiming to have it worse on the social scale or anything like that. But there’s prejudice against disabled and disfigured bodies as well, and I was simply saying I could relate in another way.
Ebony May she never said that she’s comparing herself to black women. She said she relates to certain dynamics of beauty privilege being disabled and not living up to the standards. C’mon now. Read.
@@ladylaurenia yes I loved what she said. But some black women get triggered very easily they think every white person who shares their experience and opinion is somehow trying to belittle BW or somehow throwing shade. A lot of the times I like hearing honest opinions from how outsiders view black issues especially ones about black women struggles.
Thank you Brook that was a very thoughtful and beautiful post.
She didn't lie, but the glee in saying it was gross. The problem is black women will continue to watch love and hip hop, and support black men who perpetuate the negative about black women. They embolden the other women against us. I'm about tired of it.
wish there was a love button
''You can not ride for black culture if you're not riding for black women''👏👏👏put that on a shirt and I'm buying 10 of it!
Riding doesn’t mean obligation to date
"Dating is about finding your audience" Truest words of all time.
Lilliandesu so why when a blk man finds his audience an that audience ain’t a bunch of blk men haters why is it a problem fa blk men
@@jamesmitchell1331 your question doesn't make any sense.
@@jamesmitchell1331 one question if black women don't ur audience then keep us black women otta ur black mouths
Also let’s be real and define “cater” please.. cause the trend I really tend to see is empty admiration, fucking, physical and/or emotional abuse and then turning them into single mothers 🤷🏾♀️ one should ponder if it’s even possible to have a great relationship and life with a self hating head case 🤔?
Simone Bonaparte no one really talks about that, lol.
I actually told my old boyfriend's sister that hard truth. She's Puerto Rican and she gloated about how BM fawn over "Spanish chicks." I (Black woman) asked her, "Don't they leave y'all for dead with their babies too? What are you gloating about?"
YEP!! Don't feel bad about your comment/statement @FemmeK cause it's true! The "Spanish women" don't realize they are black, mixed (Native American, African, White), or white (Spaniard Blood). Spanish is a language, Hispanic/Latino is a culture neither one is a race, tired of ppl getting that mixed up. They do not get any better treatment than females that identify as Black women. I know more "Spanish" women that Black men have made single mothers with the intention of NEVER marrying those "Spanish" girls (personal experience). I know plenty of BM that cherish and uplift their BW as goddesses..These so-called "Spanish" women are Black or Mixed Black that speak Spanish, they are no different even though they try to make themselves different.. Latino/Hispanic culture comes from African culture..just my opinion. and you're right, self-hate is REAL, esp in the Black community
Well said. I basically made the same; albeit, long winded, comment. All that catering is to a a stereotype; and then when these women ?fail? to live up(down) these men show their misogynistic ways. And that is for all races and ethnic groups of men who have the "preferences" that are based on stereotypes steeped in misogyny. Most of these men are emotionally abusive; including Joe Budden
@@NotoriousN_I_G_ people always bring this up like these white women out here aren't fundingtje clip in extensions industry and wearing wigs tooLOL what a shit argument. Kim kardashian is too famous to not know this.
Women gotta stop viewing men as a prize. Especially black men.
I'm a black women and I love a black man ..not gonna lie. Well a black man was hitting on me and I jokingly said. Y'all don't want me 😂😂He said I Do.. Look at your body😱😱😱😱😱😱....I'm Done...but the intelligent ones will get it
we are a prize! tf? we're kings! so you view other races of men a prize and not your own kind???? just asking
black men are at the bottom of the barrel smh god i wish more women would open their eyes and see that.
Magical Grapefruit Law Of Attraction this white girl im dating view me has the prize
We are prizes. Just like black women are prizes. Nothing better when you find a sister that you click with. The emotional feeling is such a GOD INTENDED natural feeling.
I feel you 100% about not stressing over people’s preferences. I felt that in my soul but damn, do we always have to take a beaten because of people’s preferences?? I’m so sick of this world, especially our own, trying to treat us like we ain’t nothing. Have your preference but leave me out your mouth..
Peter Connell I agree with that. Black men marry like 10 times more outside of their race out of all the other races combined. I feel that If it was a natural attraction, the numbers would be even or close. 🤷🏾♀️. Clearly they’ve been conditioned to believe everything is better but their own. But still, I just wish they leave us out of their mouths and the women they talk to about us leave us out their mouths.
Peter Connell girl, I watched Rich Crazy Asians and now I want me an Asian man lol. Where did you guys meet?
Peter Connell it was the movie? Lol 🤷🏾♀️
Peter Connell my mistake. I guess when you made your first post it didn’t @ who you were talking to so I responded.. Sorry for the confusion.
Reject the narrative because it's only true for some.
The ironic thing is that Black Women are Angela Yee's core audience. Who else is listening to her pod cast?I've always said that Black Women don't even have a seat at their "own," table. They have to stand and make way for women whose physical features "stray away," from Blackness and Black Men are completely content with this.
Black women stay supporting non black women then want an apology when the person shows you how they really feel. And will still end up watching the person on TV, or listening to their music.
@@KadeshC That is the problem. Now that Black Women are aware of their position in the Black community it is time for us to make moves. We need to retract all the energy/effort/support/money,etc we put into people who view us as less than. Rather than supporting Angela Yee, support actual Black Women with pod casts. & Honestly, I always side eyed the fact that Angela was the "female voice," on the breakfast club..an urban station that caters to the Black community. The same thing happened with 106 & Park (back when it was relevant) why was Rocsi the female host?? A non-black Latina. Would telemundo ever seek a Black Female host for any of their shows..?
@@YummyLix What moves are you talking about? I grew up in Oakland and I remember being around age 11 when I came across a flyer with a local radio personality on it, though she sounds black on air she was Asian. Years down the line I found out MANY radio stations were like this and black women got offended when I said something.
TODAY there are clothing lines such Fashion Nova and Pretty Little Thing who mainly use ambiguous looking women or other races when it was black women who made these brands popular. But when black designers (women especially) with talent and black models come out black women do not flock to them.
@@YummyLix Don't get me wrong I agree with you but unfortunately there will be a few who actually stop supporting her and others who feel that they are better than black women.
@crooked truth83 It is both self hating Black Men and Non-Black Women who intrude in on our spaces who are the problem. I would rather invest in Black Women with pod casts,radio stations,etc. I want to support Black Women on tv, movies, shows,etc.I want to invest in the Issa Rae's of the world.I want to support Black Women with platforms.
I actually love that we are having this conversation.
White women’s anger: powerful
Latina women’s anger: sexy/fetishized
Black women’s anger: bitchy and inconvenient
No lol white women's anger = Karen
Literally everyone makes fun of white women when they get mad. You're projecting and you think white women are powerful.
I feel like black men uplift THE BEAUTY of mixed and light skinned women of color, but they don't necessarily uplift the person and treat them better once in relationships. I'm looking at these dysfuctional relationships on Love and Hip Hop. All the women are light-skinned but being treated like trash 2nd class subordinates.
hoosieraussis1
Exactly
That's a fact. As a mixed race person this is TRUE. I can't even begin to tell you thenkind of relationships I've had with black men and this colorist shit being the root of it. It's shameful.
Not love and hiphop lmfaooo
@@latinouncle8752 cant take weave walkers seriously
Yup… Shows that show blk women to be loud, drama, and full of attitude… Yblk women rush home to watch these shows, but complain when they are stereotyped as said behavior.
Cyn didn’t want a Latino man because they were too emotional but here she was with Joe and he didn’t even give a damn about her postpartum depression 🥴
Can we please stop acting like rappers and athletes are the end all be all representation of black masculinity? Success in those fields typically requires an especially pronounced form of toxic masculinity, so we really can't be surprised when they come out saying crazy things. It's not that black men who aren't rappers or athletes don't share some of those perceptions, but their occurrence is more varied. If this person is primarily selecting the rapper/athlete type, then her experiences and perceptions of black man will definitely be skewed. Black men who don't like hip hop or sports exist too and don't necessarily fit into these conversations in predictable ways.
We need to also talk about the ways in which the perceptions that many black men embrace of Latinas are rooted in their history of racial oppression. Those stereotypes of being loud, hypersexual, crazy/violent, etc. are racist characterizations of Latinx people that are used to oppress them to this day (whether they have African ancestry or not). Even if the end result is "desirability" it's still a form of oppression. We can't act like the Joe Buddens of the world are trashing black women but somehow have Latinas best interests at heart at the same time. If his attitudes are oppressive to black women, they are likely oppressive to all women of color. I don't know anything at all about his music, but I would not be surprised if I were to find that he makes misogynistic comments frequently. I'm not trying to "AllLivesMatter" this because misogynoir is definitely real and more than worthy of specific attention, but I am saying that oppressive mindsets love company. I'm not sure how a black man could be fully on board with misogynoir but have no oppressive relation to other kinds of women as well.
Exactly. These people with "preferences" regardless of race/ethnicity tend to be abusive because those "preferences" are based on oppressive stereotypes.
Wow! So much truth and power in this comment. I can't help but to marinate on this one... ❤
@crooked truth83 No, you just said it differently. My point is that the mentality you speak of is more prevalent in certain pockets of black men, and those men are overrepresented in the celebrity class because of how they make their money. Therefore, those men should not be the center of the conversation; addressing them is fine, but to treat them as typical does us all a disservice. If those same men treated black women as well as they do non-black women, they would still be oppressive AF.
@@cynicalskeptic4517 exactly.
The Name I Was Given I agree with you. As a black woman, I don't waste my time with men like this who don't have a healthy sense of who they are. I've always been a nerdy type and have never been into the flashy rapper or athletic types. These types tend to be very superficial and I wouldn't have anything in common with them besides skin tone. If they find certain Latinas more attractive because they want something to show off, that's their problem. And let's face it, they don't want just any Latina just because she's Latina. They want they kind that fits their stereotypical fantasy of the hot, crazy, freaky, feisty Latina.
Yup they do... and they treat white women better... and Asian women... and.... and... and...
LOL and ..and so on
Ya know this is a really bad look for them
Love when I hit a nerve and BM prove me right lol
90% of mixed babies to black men are born of single mothers
Aliseiam- mexican here! I knew one hispanic man. And he confessed to me (when he was drunk) that he put white girls on a pedestal vs hispanic women, because white is the standard of beauty(im indigenous descent mexican).
As a black woman I've honestly felt like black men feel like they can treat me any kind of way. Obviously it's not all black men, and I know there are great black men out there. But that's largely been my experience. I've had non-black men go out of their way for me the way a lot of black men don't and honestly it hurts.
Same here, that's why I've opened myself up to other men.
The same way black men feel about black women...nothing new
same, even their approach. the majority of black guys are always yelling from down the aisle, looking at my body instead of my face when talking, or even immediately talk about their dick. I've had more Latino and white men approach respectfully and at least look me in the eye when they ask my name
crooked truth83 I didnt say all black women. Did you get married before having your kids? Thats my first question. My 2nd question is Did your kids father wanted a baby in the first place? The reason im asking is...i notice lots of women will have anydude baby and then try to make him a father. Sometines people just want to have sex...not be tide up for 18 years.
@@malcolminthemiddle8777 Your proved crooked truth83 point. You didn't have to say "not all BW" for us to get your point. The point is, BW will cater and do their best to uplift and not generalize them as whole. Meanwhile, BM will proudly state he doesn't date BW for x,y,z stereotypes/ generalizations, while comparing BW to non BW.
Cyn Santana is not a black girl. We need to get our group identity together before giving others a seat at our own table.
Thank you!!!
wonderful1ism she’s Latina but our culture is the most diverse we are white, black and brown. Don’t nobody want to sit at your dusty table we got too much flavor and all men lust our women because they are the best and most beautiful
@@dannyvee4499 but your lame ass always under a black woman's videos🤔🍵
Dan Rodriguez Some of is perfer being pure and knowing exactly what we are. I’m assuming by your comment that you’re a Latino man. I think it’s big of you to encourage your women choosing other races of men.
@@dannyvee4499 yo that's rude asf.
What do you mean “regular black girl”? “YOU 👏🏽ARE 👏🏽 EVERYTHING 👏🏽”
Academically, Scientifically and Universally . 💁🏽♀️⭐️🌹
#quitplaying
When she said that, it high-key humbled me.
Im a light skin Latina from NYC and I think youre right. I had a bf in HS who was Jamaican and he was so cute all the girls wanted to date him. So when we started goin out I asked him why he always went out with Latine only and he said He’d never go out with someone darker than him. I was like WTH like I didnt know what to think of that.. our relationship lastes a couple more of mnths and one of the reasons was I couldnt forget that answer. I think the problem with this mentality is low self esteem.. parents should raise their kids to be proud of their race/culture and respect others but also respect yourself.
This is why I don’t financially support black male celebs that date out. Regardless if they say something anti bw or not, we don’t know what is being said behind closed doors
You sound so stupid. Guess you never wear jordans, or watch a Eddie Murphy/Kevin Hart movie. Relax im sure it's plenty bm willing to date bw. I have been with many myself.
JAY ROSE Kevin Hart is not in a interacial relationship and I don’t support Eddie Murphy
@Luv X they don't get 1 dollar out of me. I boycotted them all! It feels lovely. No airtime.. Let the non-Black women invest in them. I'm out.
@@jayrose8869 nope lol I dont even get coming to America jokes and it has nothing to do woth his love life but i will say i dont support those who dont support me.
Exactly!! I don't support them!
Even though Latino and Black are not mutally exclusive, the two can be very similar. For Black men they can get all the the attributes and features that they find attractive in a more socially acceptable lighter-skinned body.
True. You hardly see black men with Afro Latinas.
+octbaby88 not true all over reality shows and web series
in NYC popular
Exactly! The problem is the disconnection between Black Men/Black Women and how this disconnection is partially based on how White Society views us.
THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!
Lighter skin isn't the main factor If its even a factor. It's the exotic factor. The culture. The accent.
"....on the backs of black women." Chile you ain't neva lied.
how?
@@Seancarter2010 Really? Maybe you should actually watch the video.
Yellow Princess huh?
She spoke the truth. The only offensive thing was her mocking of black women. Aside from that she is telling her experience. Why are we acting like what she said isn’t true or is somehow extra offensive. Are there plenty of videos on RUclips saying the exact same thing? Why are black women attacking her? We know it’s true!! She’s the wrong target.
@crooked truth83 yes, Black women need to come off of our triggers. Many of us have been conditioned colorstruck women too. Look how we try to press our damn edges off of our heads talking about baby hairs. Black women try to live through the lenses of non-Black women, and its sad. We don't want to admit we are triggered. Our triggers should be with the men who allow these women of other races to take a crap on our heads. I ain't never praised a Cyn looking ass Bih.
Kathryn Dorsey I don't believe any Black woman were offended. I believe that was a PR take over to move the conversation from Black men to Black women. The people she truly offended were Black men whom are her primary admirers.
TwinkleStar but she only spoke on HER experience with black men, so why be mad at her because of that?
Yellow Princess my comment wasn’t about inter racial marriage..I’m confused.
Yellow Princess
But when the do get married, the divorce rate isn’t very high.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂”I’m not sayin Cyn Santa is dumb...because that’s not nice” shaaaaaaaaade
"Charlamagne is a scammer." PREACH SIS!!!!!
Girl! I’m a medium skin Latina born and raised in Venezuela and you’re 100% right in everything you said. it even happens in Latino countries, colorism is STRONG in Latino community the more European you look the better because Latino man feel it’s not enough if you’re medium or dark skin you gotta be light with light eyes and straight hair , but when you move to the us and you start dating Americans (blacks and whites) you’re fetishized it feels like you’re light enough to be brought into his parents home but still ethnic enough to be considered “exotic” as I’ve been called many many times. Girl something I’ve learned is that you be whatever you gotta be and find happiness with someone who makes you happy and doesn’t just think “you’re exotic” I feel the girl you’re talking about in this videos is just projecting because In Latino community she will be treated as a dark skin black American woman. Much respect to all Black American women who have not only to prove themselves to other ethnicities but also to men from the own race you truly are queens and I hope someday ppl would stop the light skin bs and just love women for who they are. Much love from this Venezuelan!
Yess! We are so fetishized and theres so much more to us than being "spicy". Props to bw for keeping their heads up. Its hard out here lmaoo
Lis ! Everytime I'm called spicy I die a little bit inside. No ma’am.
It is a sad thing when latinas never bring up dark skin in latin America, I see why they want to have there on space. You have latin folks that look like regular black folks in new york city.
That's false Puerto Rican men ain't controlling SMH why she generalizing a whole nationality and why she talking down bout her people's. Of course every race will have some bad cookies but they are plenty of good Hispanic guys who treat women with respect. Don't listen to her she's wrong
I agree. Seems like she hates herself and her own men. Meanwhile, I'm trying to be fluent in Spanish so that I can communicate more with Hispanic guys.
I think when people speak negatively about their race they're just trying to discourage other races from dating them while they "move on."
Stop it I had to get a restraining order against my Puerto Rican ex it’s disgusting .
I don’t get what people are getting out of her apologizing. Lol what she said aaa true and the only reason she’s apologizing is because she doesn’t want black women to drag her. Still, that’s how she really feels and she didn’t lie so.....idk....I don’t really get why black women are begging her to take back what she said. seems like black women want to live in denial. Black men for the most part celebrate and uplift lighter skinned or nonblack women much more than darker skinned black women. That’s how she feels and that’s how her husband feels. A fake apology won’t change the truth.
JohnnyMwan Why are you males so triggered and shocked by this now when you've help contribute to her and other Latinas thinking like this through decades of elevating them over bw simply for having lighter skin and finer hair texture?
It's so funny that you say this because over the years men who have mixed kids will look at me with disgust. (But at the same time are telling their mixed daughter she is BLACK.)
Black men who are attracted to me speak but yes those who don't like dark skin will let you know verbally or in a non verbal way... And every other race practically knows this. I didn't want an apology I want it to stop being publicly told to the media by black men how much they really don't like us.
Other races who don't like their own just don't date them or publicly demean them.
Girl most of us done brought property at denial, send the kids to school there and work there with no plans on leaving. It's a fucking tragedy.
@@callalilly4743 officially my favorite metaphor lol! You spoke only truths.
Can we even call it a "feeling"? That's too subjective. She's speaking from what she's experienced and witnessed. She ran'em down without meaning too lolol.
18:46 lol being a black girl is only claimed when it's beneficial. We know this!
Why would you expect her to “critique the power structure” when she benefits from it? It’s not realistic.
My Username basically. Cyn is not educated, so we can't expect her to go beyond a high school level of understanding
But the real quest is are y’all black Women still black male identified?! Because as long as you are, you can stop whining about being picked LAST by your own men
Thank u
Jakhaari Kiaana Exactly. Time for black woman to expand our horizons.
Jakhaari Kiaana yup expand ur options!
We need to close ranks around ourselves because we're all we got.
Picture that lol blacks Do not stick together!
ticheri yes you should 👍🏼, I’m a bi racial man and even I know the importance of self preservation.
we “bi racials” have and will always stick together. Stop letting mixed folks come to the party all the time because we don’t allow anyone into the mixed party unless your certifiably mixed. meaning you look mixed and you stand as mixed “ALL THE TIME “
Modalsoul Thanks for speaking the truth many will deny
Tassy Laury just being honest luv , no other race puts this much emphasis on dating out , featurism, colorism, hair texture except AA.
I mean you don’t see the JAPANESE, CHINESE or KOREANS claiming each other 🤦🏻♂️
Period!
Black men are often taught to devalue black women not just from society but from older black men in their families growing up. They grow up in a family where their fathers, uncles and grand fathers often rhapsodized about white and light skinned women. The athletes and performers they grow up admiring further confirm these beliefs. They are seen as prizes and achievements. Yet a lot of these same men get mad as hell whenever they see a black woman with a non-black partner.
So everyone taught us to devalue black women but black women themselves. Got it.
“What you need to do to get a high status man”........not a damn thing! These women peddling that nonsense are just selling dreams to desperate women. If you are the ideal, and we all know what that is, you will get a high status man. No hoops to jump through. No training or classes needed.
Ki ki!!! You 2 real 🤣...
I have been brainwashed into falling for those talking points about hypergamy. But I realized with my unambiguous aesthetic, I have limited options….
I totally agree about, Going where you are wanted. I rarely ever get any attention from black men. When I was doing the internet dating thing, 99% of the men that were hitting me up was....other. White, Latino, Middle Eastern, even Asian which I thought was interesting. If I did get a black guy, it was because he had mistaken me for being biracial. Once I told him I wasn't, he was gone. One guy actually argued with me over my heritage. I just HAD to be biracial. My hair is long, my nose is skinny and long, I'm 'light skinned'. (I am brown skinned....take pictures in the sun, you'll look lighter too) My mother finds it a compliment to be mistaken for being biracial. Which, there is so much to unpack there.......but. It seems like black women are not the ideal to black men, and so we as black women have to go where we are wanted. My boyfriend is white. I went where I could be myself. How weird and fucked up is that.
💎G E M💎
"Dating is about finding your audience."
-Kim
💎G E M💎
"For most people, their partner is a commodity."
God damn, that is harsh but true.
Love this, the only thing we as black women can do is accept ourselves and move on and ignore these ignorant black men and these biracial Latina women.
Pretty jackson I agree!
😘😘😘😘😘👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Pretty jackson exactly.
exactly
@aprildaonlyqueen123 They jealous of you :I
I'm Latin American and I beg of you please, PLEASE, Americans, stop calling Latin Americans "Spanish," please. Use Hispanic if they speak Spanish or their family does and Latino if they're from Latin America (which includes Brazil, wehre they speak Portuguese), or whatever the person you're talking about prefers to be called. But unless you're talking about Spaniards, people from Spain, PLEASE don't call us Spanish. It is so unbelievably annoying.
Nah, I only love black women period. No comparison to beautiful black woman.
Nova Starr are you black?
@Nova Starr not really. 87% of black men are married to black women .
@crooked truth83 no actually those are current stats . In fact I was wrong 94% of black men married are with black women . And that's just American black men if we talking about all black men . Meaning carribean, African, Hispanic black men in pretty sure we marrying our Queens over 99% don't let the 10-11 famous interracial couples make you think black men out here leaving sisters.
@Nova Starr why should we put cyn in check ? Makes no sense . I could care less about what she said cause da shoe don't fit . I let Spanish chicks go on about they business cause I could care less about them . Nothing she said was worthy of "checking" her . Y'all just get hurt hurt over some of the smallest things . Like I said majority of married black men are with black women . Doesn't matter how ,when , or why . Don't twist it to fit your hate black men narrtive. 💯 she didn't play black men , she played Hispanic men cause she called them out on their neediness and being too clingy.
@@gmailnumbertwo6134 87% of BM are married to BW, but only 29% of our population even marry. So those are hella low numbers tbh
He actually dogged her. He cheated on her, told her to "get over" postpartum depression, and left...if that's preferential tx..it's a hard pass for me. Now if u said Papoose and preferential treatment we might have sum to talk about..but he's married to a black woman so really ion know what to say
I would say to Black women, just find someone who genuinely respects and is attracted to you...sadly it may not be a Black man!
I love you! Identifying as a darkish skin woman from 🇺🇾 Uruguay. You are so wise in all your videos
Yes she is. I don't see the problem other than with our men being the actual issue.
@Sovereign BlackGirl you right girl. You're so right.
Sovereign BlackGirl Thats true. i never understand why bw say bm is their men. they not. other races of women dont say their men.
Lovelm Purple
Yes they do
Honestly I have missed your voice so much on RUclips as a black woman who always gives a wonderful intellectual take on society , politics ,and pop culture. You have become an inspiration to me to always stand firm in my voice thank you so much for standing in your principles and truths always love you gurl may you thrive in 2019.
You can be black and latina. Cyn looks like a black woman to me it looks like she’s confused about her own race. Lots of afro latinas walking around thinking their more “exotic” than African Americans because of they speak Spanish and have an accent. 🤷🏾♀️
@Michelle R she doesn't look Indian at all 😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️
I can't stop looking at your hair!! I want it!
I’m Afro Latina and I can attest that through my experience black men do desire Latina women more.. it’s a colorist thing.. and Latino men value white features in Latinas more than Afro Latina women (women like me.)
caramel and light skin latinas, black latinas fit the caramel type
I can tell that you guys will never solve this problem because you think everything is about aesthetic and not about your psyche.
@@_VISION. it is about beauty for men not so much color like women, specially inner beauty which last forever and many lack
@@misaelaguirre1701 my comment was for OP
Facts cause I do
Hahaha no they dont and im a light skinned Hispanic woman they don't treat us right neither.
Interesting. Just because they're chasing Latinas instead of Black women does not mean they actually "treat" those women better.
We never talked how they treat you once they're in a relationship with you. That's not even the point of the video. It's that a lot of BM do fetishize latinas and "prefer" them over the ones that look like them. And now the latina women know that and are catching up, the conversation wasn't about how they treat you once in a relationship idrc about that right now. Instead speak about the topic she said on hand
A year later this shit still hits.
As a brown skin daughter of a dark skin JAMAICAN dad and a light bright HISPANIC mom, it was hard seeing how my dad and the world as a whole preferred people who look like my cousins and friends over people who look like me and my sisters.
“You will not be able to behave your way into being a White woman.” Truer words have never been spoken.
4:19 First rule of benefiting from hierarchy. Don't talk about benefiting from hierarchy
Black men are the only race that disregard disrespect their women.
that's not true.
What world do you live in?
I don’t agree that Cyn was wrong for speaking publicly about this instead of privately. I worry that we are encouraging people to be two faced in public and becoming liars which is why when someone does say something real in public it causes such a big firestorm. Let’s try to strive for transparency and honesty so that real problems are not tiptoed around
S Clark that’s not possible when everyone gets so butt hurt over anything
Yall need to thank Cynn for what she said. As black women we need to simply stray away from the black men who think like this. Us black girls need to make it big and love for ourselves !!!
Why have I only just discovered your channel. Your views are so refreshing
No! But she is a simpleton! Fact and truth!!
Her voice irks me !
I am Puerto Rican but on that spectrum I am lighter skinned with medium to light hair. I grew up in Puerto Rico and am very proud of my roots and feel knowledgeable in that arena.
I don't know how I found you but I found you about a couple of months ago and am so happy I found this channel.
I have been very enlightened and am seeing things with such a different perspective. I thought that I understood some of the issues black people felt amongst their community and in general but I was only on the most outer layer of it all. This is a great channel and you really explain things in a way that allows me to understand.
I feel like those comments about using feminine behavior to get men of means are directly related to Chrissie’s videos. Lol am I wrong?
Bailee I thought so too lol
Not wrong at all & she’s right it’s working for me TRUST ME!
@@Appleboo222 what tips have you taken on board and how have you benefited from it just out of curiosity ?
Either her or...SheraSeven
You are a girlfriend in my head. I really love your videos.
“Dating is about finding your audience”. Should be on a billboard!
Cyn makes a living off the black woman stereotype!!
Here is 2023 because I needed a refresher course….
love this video. girl i'm gonna miss your tweets. they were hilarious stream of consciousness ideas. one of my faves was about just wanting to do better than your exes. but it can also be so toxic. keep doing great work kim :)
dating is about finding your audience - it's not about about the prettiest, it's not about being the most accommodating, it's not about fixing plates, it's about finding your audience. i loveeee that - 'find your audience' put it on a t-shirt chile
I read a statistics of non black women who date black men. At a high number end up as single mothers. So I guess she isn't fully correct. I personally never been in a relationship with black men. I just hear a lot of this. From black women being mistreated. And hear from non black women. It's only good for a bit. Those relationships end horribly.
That statistics is very false
@@industryexposedofficial its true
Lmao stop fucking lying he left her for a black Wonsan
Outside of Cyn Santana, I had to learn this week that "Latinos" don't know enough about the history for me to see them as allies. Maybe it's their sense of privilege that adds to their ignorance. Either way I'm glad we can have this discussion. I don't know if there's any hope for black men in this arena (the Joe Buddens of the world), just imo.
You are 100% right about not stressing about other's preferences. That has been my approach since I recognized my kind of blackness was loved and appreciated by a lot of black men. If you are attracted to me and my dark skin and I'm attracted to you, "we cool". If you are not, I refuse to waste my time trying to get you to like me. Life is too short, baby. From 16yrs old to the present, I've never had a problem attracting a black man. Facts!
Wow. I’m truly glad I came across your page. This is the first time I have had someone openly speak on this subject with the truth of how it impacts us as black women. It is so hurtful from our perspective. I appreciate you. ❤️
Girl I laughed out loud when you said "I'm not going to call her dumb because.... That's not nice"
I enjoyed your video. I do see a lot of videos on how to attract a wealthy man and I do not take them seriously. A man wants what he wants and i'm not breaking my neck to change myself. If he is for me then we would vibe together naturally.
It’s been ingrained in me since I was little that black men ain’t shit and to get treated well and be loved I have to find a man who is of another race. It’s really sad but it’s gotten to the point where I can’t even picture my self marrying a black man and when I’m asked about my “dream guy” he’s never a black male. Situations like this make me think about why black men seem to never want or care for black women. Because of black men making comments ALWAYS uplifting others races but NEVER their own women, I don’t ever want to be with a black man and I feel bad about that because I am black but my mind can’t even picture me with a black man.
I’m glad I’m not American or live in America being black is too much there. Watching these videos made me realize how blessed I am.
Sorry if I sound super negative, to my black American sisters please take care of yourselves and be happy you are beautiful, idiots will always be idiots don’t get sucked into all the negative energy. Stop feeling like you’re fighting colourism etc if someone is colourist it’s their loss you don’t need them! Spend time treating yourself and living your best life! I’m seeing too many sad hopeless comments 😔 (Not saying you should turn a blind eye to these issues)
@@Appleboo222 where are you from?
@Michelle R lol but I'm pretty sure it's American culture that is the most influential in the world. I'm not saying that certain things don't come from other cultures but it can't be ignored that Americans are replicated. So I don't think in general Americans
May No, in general Americans are jealous and hateful people. Until black women stop judging and looking up and down and rolling eyes at the next black woman then maybe we have a start but that’ll never happen.
@@brittanyr1456I don't know where you are getting this from, but you sound like a hypocrite. You're generalizing a whole group of people but at the same time saying that we are the ones that are hateful. That's is called being *xenophobic*, which is a form of bigotry.
This video had nothing to do with black women looking down on each other, stop trying to twist this to fit your narrative. Cyn isn't a black woman, so what your saying is irrelevant.
And by the way, don't ever come for my ethnicity or nationality ever again. I am a proud Black-American, I'm so lucky to of been born into the group most influential group in the world and nothing you can say could ever make me ashamed.
sorry love ....im black and spoiled AF by BLACK MEN.....# cantrelate
S B there’s always that one black girl 🤣😭
Most non-black women love the pedestal that black men put them on.. I will go as far as to say that they aren't that attracted to BM.. sometimes yes but most aren't.. However, they love, love love that pedestal..
Most know how to act obtuse in certain spaces...like the Kardashians.. they KNOW that BM love them and put them on a pedestal..but you never ever hear them say it directly..
Well let’s be clear ALL my men catered to me as well. All were black. I think Latino men are more passionate but healthy black men are loving and def catering . Same for my friends who are black. So, she isn’t getting anything more. And let’s be even more clear, Joe doesn’t seem to be catering. 💅🏽😚
crooked truth83 Not true my uncle had spanish chicks and he beat them up alot. one of them even had a black eye. i think its bm with low self esteem that caters to them. and if thats the case spanish women can have those types.
You look light skin dough
I am a mixed Black and Mexican male. I think all women are beautiful regardless of color. But being mixed it was always hard because one side wants you to choose only them. Though speaking on black women they are lovely no matter what. I lift my sisters and my cousin up because they have worth and more value then they give themselves. Us as black men need to do our part to help stop the cycle and rise as a whole. Like my late grandmother that came through slavery into this present world stated there is nothing stronger than a black couple. Thank you for your content and keep it up. It is great hearing points of view from someone enlightened.
I hear you, but I'm glad she said it. She was just speaking of her experiences, and I didn't feel hurt because every day I see black men favoring the light skinned women who pass their way. She provides some evidence to support what I say, but when I say it some people think I'm too sensitive. To the contrary, I'm irritated when light skinned women deny that black men frequently treat them better because they look more like the socially approved idea of beauty. ... I do wish that Angela(?) didn't say that Cyn would make black women angry; that surely was an unnecessary and incendiary comment .
I'm curious why so many black women allow their self esteem to hinge on who others choose. I get there are impossible beauty standards we all have to contend with but when choosing mates the right person for you isn't idolizing this kind of nonsense. Does anyone want to date the kind of men who uplift the Cyn Santanas of the world and if you do why? Why do you want that kind of energy in your life? A good partnership goes way beyond skin deep and is a lot more about character
Seancarter2010
I think it’s moreso that no one wants to be talked down to. Especially if there are already stereotypes that label you as undesirable
I hear that and its valid I just wish we could move away from caring about the opinions of low frequency people@@thatthingyouseeatthecorner5249
Seancarter2010
Yeah I agree.
I'm lost . She said black men treat them better compared to Hispanic men . That's all she said . She didn't say black men treat them better than we treat black women. Well "them" cause I only date black women but . She ain't said shit really that bad . If you be honest she's putting down her own. And uplifting black men
@crooked truth83 I've witnessed black men kill for black women , pay their way through life , treat black women like Queens (which y'all are) one or 2 examples doesn't make it general.
@crooked truth83 black women got hurt mostly cause she mocked y'all . Which was wrong of her . But I think honestly that Hispanic men are the ones that should be hurt about it.
I was thinking this too, I took it as she was comparing the black men to Hispanic men, not to how they treat black women
@@VivaBellabyXtina thank you . Cause I never heard her say anything that made it seem like black men were better to Hispanic women vs black women . We're like the only 2 that heard different
King Bryan
For women who are pro “black love”, the generalization that black men cater to Spanish women would be problematic.
"I'm not going to be able to behave my way...!" YES.
ALSO: That powder blue is beautiful! 💙
I knew she was right which is why I didn’t get upset (not that I would anyway because that’s who I am as person) ; however, the problem I do see is why she felt the need to mention black women. Black men treat “Spanish” women better cool keep our name out of your mouth. A lot of black women don’t have a problem with interracial dating we do however have a problem with people dragging us in order to justify it
Why do we spend so much energy worrying about black men’s dating preferences? If more black women dated other races of men, these conversations would die down. Cast a larger net you will be surprised at the number and variety of fish you will catch.
Yes but for many reasons black women don't date outside of their race and just want to complain
Sophia ATN You are so right
Cardi B wasn’t treated so great by a Black Man.
Hattie Afstralos is she even black?
Her and Offset still together ⁉️⁉️🤷🏾♂️
Show us a man you’ve had for a year +
I’ll show you my Puerto Rican of 2 years or my white boy of 4 years I’ll even show you my current black athlete
Black americans need Gate-Keepers for the sake of the Culture. In Greek myth Hercules was the Gate Keeper of Olympus and his big ready to fight "Head Bussin" ass wasn't letting nobody in. That's what we need.
@Angel Handley you serious Queen?
Well my uncle beat up the hispanic chicks he had. so i dont think every bm caters to them.
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These comments make me laugh because a lot of my fellow sisters make the SAME arguments for dating out that the so called “self hating” black men do. It baffles the mind honestly. Y’all let ATHLETES and CELEBS dictate the “norms”. WTF statistically black men are sticking with and marrying black women. I believe that it’s damn near equal amounts of self hatred amongst black men AND women because the excuses here are just as TIRED and it’s a double standard. Black ppl need to wake up and value each other period. We are all that we have at the end of the day.
Most accurate comment on this senseless board...
Best comment here
First, apologize for anti-blakness in Latino spaces. Feel free to ask me questions, because I am still trying to navigate this.
About me:
I'm a latina (Mexican, lived here since I was a kid, Pan, DACA immigrant) married to a black hetero man.
I am not valuable enough to my black male hetero partner:
-I think it's a social status thing
-I'm not a good token in white spaces, especially if I'm not getting paid and it's not helping my career or me in general
-I am fat
-I do not have light skin
-I have some college classes, but no formal education
I'm very sorry you are experiencing that. One thing I can say as a black man who is married to a Latina is that it's likely more to do with social status (and to some extent body size) than anything else. That stems from the deep stigmatization that black men in interracial relationships face. He likely feels like he needs to prove something through the appearance of his partner because of the same toxic animus you see directed toward black men throughout this comment section. You husband likely does not have the vocabulary to describe his issues. He probably loves you, but he is severely inhibited in doing so unapologetically - and that is something that comes from how African American culture views black men in interracial partnerships. He has to learn to be unapologetic. He has to learn to stand up for himself and to fight back for himself; then he will have the capacity to do it for you. A lot of black men are mistaken in thinking that they must verbally attack and degrade black women in order to be unapologetic. That's a false consciousness. We need boundaries. Who we partner with is no one's business and we answer to no one about it. There is no explanation to be given or defense necessary. That's the level at which black men need to check people.
I love my dark ebony skin. Thank God that my self esteem belongs to me and Nobody else. Periodt!
Someone just told me this the other day and I come across our video. When Cyn said that black girls will get an attitude, because of what she said. Girllllllllllllll, do you know that men that are possessive regardless of race is not a good thing. Black men do cater to women that are lighter complected or a different race. I had a man tell me that he tired of dating black girls. He going to go for someone that don't look like him or from another country. I was taken aback like......... wow.
I simply love your work! Before I chose to be in an interracial you had me searching myself to see if I harbored any anti-black demons. You always give a level headed and concise commentary! I look up to a lot of your work.
When you said "men do the picking" that just completely stumped me. You said it in such a matter of fact way, and I find that so interesting but so disheartening. I'm glad you have a lot of confidence and know what you want, but if that's really the experience of most black women that's so shocking. It sums up the difference you point to between dating as a white/non black woman and as a black woman. I'm white and i have never ever felt that the men do the picking, ever. I am always the one to turn a man down or break up with him (although regardless men are more likely to mess you around emotionally I feel, lead you on). On tinder, all men I know just swipe right on everyone until someone swipes right on them, while the girls carefully pick.
I feel like she meant if black men are choosing to date outside their race then black women can't be mad at the other women they need to be mad at the black men
Thank you so much for this. The way you handled this without tearing her or straight black men down was so powerful.