@@cherrycarves we can always do better! lol. what are your board spec? looks wide! personally I'm working on switch riding. hoping to start working on 180's once switch is in the bag
Wow! I strive for this on a couple runs here at Snowmass... The Edge, and Campground are 2 black diamond runs that are groomed regularly and without pristine grooming, extra wide boards and I suppose posi/posi stance angles... they are very hard to maintain these kinds of controlled carves! Super Impressive and inspiring. Right now I’m on a Burton Custom Camber 170W with a 270mm WW and +12/-12 stance angles (Burton EST Cartel Restricted bindings and Ion size 11.5 boots) does the trick mostly but not at these laid out angles without chattering out an edge or boot-out at the extremes! Good stuff James! 🤙🏼🙏🏼🤙🏼
There are four more Exegi DoubeWide carving boards available for purchase in the store at carversconnection.com for December delivery. 292mm waists, 12m scr. The real deal.
You did good! That was a steep one. I also got the ContraBX 12m, and love it, great carving board! I'm an ExtremeCarver on hardboots so I use a similar style on heel side: when my hand touch the snow I push my hips up and straighten my body. And use down unweighting to switch edge. I love this feeling, ridding the edge. Cant wait to get back to it in a couple of days! 🤩 Keep it up, love watching your videos. 👍
Hahaha... Yes, these are highly specialized custom boards... Arguably the best boards on the planet right now, I have all of the latest prototype wide titanal metal soft boot carvers from Jasey-Jay Anderson and Coiler Composites. Three are out of the press within the last two months and three more less than 13 months old. 29 to 30cm wide at the waist, 12 to 16m sidecuts, 164 to 171cm lengths. No one else is making boards this big with metal and carbon construction. No, you probably can't get one...
@@t-rex4211 No. These are made with a singular purpose in mind, no compromises. Very fast and stable straightlining for sure but turning is way more fun, and they're wide enough to float in pow but too long, stiff and heavy for quick turns in the trees or moguls. These are high performance custom carving boards, I ride powder boards on powder days (mostly Furbergs) and all mountain NeverSummers when I ride with kids or (non-carving) friends and I don't know where we'll end up. There's no such thing as a board that does it all, despite the manufacturers' propaganda. That all mountain board that's supposed to shred moguls and trees, fly in the park, float in pow, and also rip up groomers is just bad at everything. The highest performance gear is always designed to be great at one thing only. Snowboards are not that expensive (compared to mountain bikes or paddleboards, for example), and the "quiver of one" idea is nonsense in any of these sports. Get a carving specific board and set it up with a carving specific stance if you want to feel the g-force and the energy rebound, then go back to your duck stance on your "all-mountain" for everything else.
@@cherrycarves I don't get how a 12m sidecut allows a carve on that slope that ends up perpendicular to the fall line without excessive speed. I'm not sure I could do that with my Madd 168BX CB with a 9-something m sidecut. Maybe it comes down to skill.
Well I wouldn't say "easier" because this is an extremely steep run, but it is pretty much necessary. On this slope I'm balls-to-the-wall (literally on toeside). I just can't angulate any more than I am; my knees are touching on toeside and my butt is touching on heelside. I'm trying not to drag these parts or put a lot of weight on my hands because I want to push that energy into the board edge. The only things I can do to tighten the turn is over rotate and exaggerate the fore-aft movement and the compression/decompression. (I try not to do too much of the latter two when the camera is rolling - for style points.) But this steep run actually forces my body into the correct position for carving. A lot of aspiring carvers tend to drop their inside shoulder or bend at the waist, reaching for the snow. What you want to do is reach away from the snow and keep your shoulders level. The steep slope here will not allow me to drop the shoulder or break at the waist, it keeps me upright with my body just skimming the surface. On a green run I have to turn pretty tight to drag my hands so it's harder to maintain momentum and do more than a few low turns in a row. (This is why I love the steeps! That's where you find the high g-forces and the most soul satisfying turns.) So you are correct in a way because when the rider is not touching the snow it's harder to balance on the edge. Best though to work on your balance and body position without touching the snow until you get to blue runs. So remember to reach away from the snow with the back hand and keep your shoulders level through all parts of linked carved Pencil Line carve, especially through the apex. (My turns are up-unweighted Pencil Lines, Canadian style, they are different from down-unweighted Eurocarves or the quick cross-under Asian-style carves.)
Nobody does this though. Takes ultimate commitment to throw your body down the hill to start a turn when it’s this steep. Wish I had people to ride with that played the same game like this.
@@cherrycarves oh this is really interesting! I've seen you use a pretty long and stiff board, what is its radius? 30+ years hardbooter here. I'm really curious in what you were looking for in soft boots setup and after extensive use of both what you would say are the pros and cons of both systems! Keep carving!
@giovanni spinotti Hard booting is smoother and easier, soft booting is physically and technically more demanding but the stance is more playful and I feel better and more free in soft boots. The hardboots and hardboot stance are not comfortable unless you're carving, the soft setup is better all over the mountain. My softboot carving boards from Coiler and JJA range from 12m to 16m sidecuts, 164cm to 171. This video was filmed over three days on three different boards.
Hey JT. This video was shot on three different days on three different boards... The bindings are Flux XV, Now O-Drives and Drake Podium. Each has it's place, pros and cons.
Flux XV with 13mm risers and custom cant and lift on the baseplates. Stiffest, highest performance bindings ever for hard softboot carving though admittedly not the most comfortable binding...
@@mooncat.787 Heck ya it is. They only groom that section a few times per season. This video was shot early in the season when they hadn't even done the full width yet. So intense! Love that sh!t. There's a follow up to this video, "Crushing Revelstoke's Steepest Groomers". Conditions were better and they had groomed it wider on that day... But yeah, on a mountain known for its extremely steep terrain, this section is the steepest sustained groomer by far. It's The Snow Rodeo just above the Ninja Traverse, for anyone who wants to try carving it up!
@cherrycarves I bet they only groom it a couple of times per season. Stunned the snowplow gets anywhere near the top..... Anyways I don't think I'll be dropping down that bad boy anytime soon. Parachute down it yes.... Boarding..... NO !!!
@@cherrycarves I'll leave it to you James, or I'll watch from the bottom. Yeah I did think they'd have to use some other means of groomer. Can you imagine the poor guy who HAD to drive the plow if a winch cat didn't exist. No thank you very much.
Nice, Revelstoke fall line is deceptive, One of the most steepest mountains I've ever ridden, Grew up going to Baker and whistler/blackcomb.
Work of art! Awesome lines! 👍👍👍👍
"Trying" looks like you nailed it! also looks like a fun one
Thanks but I can do better... Still waiting for them to groom that section again on a cold, sunny day.
@@cherrycarves we can always do better! lol. what are your board spec? looks wide! personally I'm working on switch riding. hoping to start working on 180's once switch is in the bag
Nice!!! Cannot wait to ride in Revelstoke some time soon 🤟
@Guido Belluso find me at the gondola at 8:30 every groomer day!
@@cherrycarves sounds like a plan! Will keep you in my contacts in case I make it there some day LOL 🤟
Wow! I strive for this on a couple runs here at Snowmass... The Edge, and Campground are 2 black diamond runs that are groomed regularly and without pristine grooming, extra wide boards and I suppose posi/posi stance angles... they are very hard to maintain these kinds of controlled carves! Super Impressive and inspiring. Right now I’m on a Burton Custom Camber 170W with a 270mm WW and +12/-12 stance angles (Burton EST Cartel Restricted bindings and Ion size 11.5 boots) does the trick mostly but not at these laid out angles without chattering out an edge or boot-out at the extremes! Good stuff James! 🤙🏼🙏🏼🤙🏼
There are four more Exegi DoubeWide carving boards available for purchase in the store at carversconnection.com for December delivery. 292mm waists, 12m scr. The real deal.
Daaaamn 🏂🔥! Watching this I can only assume one of the devs f**ked up the gravity physics!
Or one of the angels created a wide metal high performance board!
Amazing carving technique ! Kudo !!!!
You did good! That was a steep one. I also got the ContraBX 12m, and love it, great carving board! I'm an ExtremeCarver on hardboots so I use a similar style on heel side: when my hand touch the snow I push my hips up and straighten my body. And use down unweighting to switch edge. I love this feeling, ridding the edge. Cant wait to get back to it in a couple of days! 🤩 Keep it up, love watching your videos. 👍
Are these special boards for carving? Can’t get anywhere near that low on my board without the brakes coming on 🤔
Hahaha... Yes, these are highly specialized custom boards...
Arguably the best boards on the planet right now, I have all of the latest prototype wide titanal metal soft boot carvers from Jasey-Jay Anderson and Coiler Composites. Three are out of the press within the last two months and three more less than 13 months old.
29 to 30cm wide at the waist, 12 to 16m sidecuts, 164 to 171cm lengths. No one else is making boards this big with metal and carbon construction.
No, you probably can't get one...
@@cherrycarves Haha ok nice one. They good allrounders too? Fresh pow and straight lining etc?
@@t-rex4211 No. These are made with a singular purpose in mind, no compromises.
Very fast and stable straightlining for sure but turning is way more fun, and they're wide enough to float in pow but too long, stiff and heavy for quick turns in the trees or moguls.
These are high performance custom carving boards, I ride powder boards on powder days (mostly Furbergs) and all mountain NeverSummers when I ride with kids or (non-carving) friends and I don't know where we'll end up.
There's no such thing as a board that does it all, despite the manufacturers' propaganda. That all mountain board that's supposed to shred moguls and trees, fly in the park, float in pow, and also rip up groomers is just bad at everything. The highest performance gear is always designed to be great at one thing only.
Snowboards are not that expensive (compared to mountain bikes or paddleboards, for example), and the "quiver of one" idea is nonsense in any of these sports. Get a carving specific board and set it up with a carving specific stance if you want to feel the g-force and the energy rebound, then go back to your duck stance on your "all-mountain" for everything else.
@@cherrycarves Ok cheers for info. Cool vids btw 🤘
@@cherrycarves I don't get how a 12m sidecut allows a carve on that slope that ends up perpendicular to the fall line without excessive speed. I'm not sure I could do that with my Madd 168BX CB with a 9-something m sidecut. Maybe it comes down to skill.
Holy Sh*t !! Those trails are so steep ! You just MAN handle it like it ant no thing. BOSS !!!!
Hahahah... I had been struggling with that section for eight seasons before we brought the camera out...
wow. just wow
Would steeper slope actually be easier for touching the ground when carve?
Well I wouldn't say "easier" because this is an extremely steep run, but it is pretty much necessary.
On this slope I'm balls-to-the-wall (literally on toeside). I just can't angulate any more than I am; my knees are touching on toeside and my butt is touching on heelside. I'm trying not to drag these parts or put a lot of weight on my hands because I want to push that energy into the board edge. The only things I can do to tighten the turn is over rotate and exaggerate the fore-aft movement and the compression/decompression. (I try not to do too much of the latter two when the camera is rolling - for style points.)
But this steep run actually forces my body into the correct position for carving. A lot of aspiring carvers tend to drop their inside shoulder or bend at the waist, reaching for the snow. What you want to do is reach away from the snow and keep your shoulders level. The steep slope here will not allow me to drop the shoulder or break at the waist, it keeps me upright with my body just skimming the surface.
On a green run I have to turn pretty tight to drag my hands so it's harder to maintain momentum and do more than a few low turns in a row. (This is why I love the steeps! That's where you find the high g-forces and the most soul satisfying turns.)
So you are correct in a way because when the rider is not touching the snow it's harder to balance on the edge. Best though to work on your balance and body position without touching the snow until you get to blue runs.
So remember to reach away from the snow with the back hand and keep your shoulders level through all parts of linked carved Pencil Line carve, especially through the apex. (My turns are up-unweighted Pencil Lines, Canadian style, they are different from down-unweighted Eurocarves or the quick cross-under Asian-style carves.)
Ok I feel better now. That’s about how it goes when I run our diamond groomed trails in Idaho.
Yeah, not every turn goes to plan...
Nobody does this though. Takes ultimate commitment to throw your body down the hill to start a turn when it’s this steep. Wish I had people to ride with that played the same game like this.
@peterjacobs6290 Idaho is not that far... Come up to Revelstoke when it's sunny in March, we have some killer steep groomers.
It looks like you're ready to jump into hard boot carving. Believe me, it will be a blast.
I've been hard boot carving for decades, just waiting for soft boot boards to get wide enough for me!
@@cherrycarves oh this is really interesting! I've seen you use a pretty long and stiff board, what is its radius? 30+ years hardbooter here. I'm really curious in what you were looking for in soft boots setup and after extensive use of both what you would say are the pros and cons of both systems!
Keep carving!
@giovanni spinotti Hard booting is smoother and easier, soft booting is physically and technically more demanding but the stance is more playful and I feel better and more free in soft boots. The hardboots and hardboot stance are not comfortable unless you're carving, the soft setup is better all over the mountain.
My softboot carving boards from Coiler and JJA range from 12m to 16m sidecuts, 164cm to 171. This video was filmed over three days on three different boards.
Nice turns bro
Thanks Russ! You coming up here before spring?
I should let me see if Mark or Dane want to come
@Russ Britt Fantastic idea! Conditions are great here right now but spring thaw will come eventually. I got spare beds for everyone too!
What kind of boards you use for carving? You look insane
Mostly I ride Coiler and Jasey-Jay Anderson Snowboards, but I'll carve anything with camber and sidecet wider than 285mm at the waist!
Well even if he is, good for him for overcoming that to become a top-notch snowboarder.
Hey James What bindings are u using ?
Hey JT. This video was shot on three different days on three different boards... The bindings are Flux XV, Now O-Drives and Drake Podium. Each has it's place, pros and cons.
@Suz are you referring to when Ryan K eurocarves when you say "riding on your arms and hands"?
Flux XV with 13mm risers and custom cant and lift on the baseplates. Stiffest, highest performance bindings ever for hard softboot carving though admittedly not the most comfortable binding...
Do some jumps!
Jesus....... Jesus.... Fuck that it's virtually a WALL !!!
@@mooncat.787 Heck ya it is. They only groom that section a few times per season. This video was shot early in the season when they hadn't even done the full width yet. So intense! Love that sh!t.
There's a follow up to this video, "Crushing Revelstoke's Steepest Groomers". Conditions were better and they had groomed it wider on that day...
But yeah, on a mountain known for its extremely steep terrain, this section is the steepest sustained groomer by far.
It's The Snow Rodeo just above the Ninja Traverse, for anyone who wants to try carving it up!
@cherrycarves I bet they only groom it a couple of times per season. Stunned the snowplow gets anywhere near the top..... Anyways I don't think I'll be dropping down that bad boy anytime soon.
Parachute down it yes.... Boarding..... NO !!!
@mooncat.787 It's heaven on a powder day! (They groom it with a winch cat.)
@@cherrycarves I'll leave it to you James, or I'll watch from the bottom. Yeah I did think they'd have to use some other means of groomer. Can you imagine the poor guy who HAD to drive the plow if a winch cat didn't exist.
No thank you very much.