Jodorowsky Can't Stop Attacking Denis Villeneuve's Dune
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and the fact that no matter how salty Jodorowsky is about the situation, Denis actually paid him tribute by using Pink Floyd’s ‘Eclipse’ in first trailer, because Jodorowsky wanted Pink Floyd to compose for the movie at the time 😭
Denis seems to be a class act 🙂
@@evermoremystic17 He is!
Yeah Quinn is just wrong - Denis DID think of Jodorowksy but they clearly differ greatly but Quinn is right Jodo was doing the film for himself - Herbert was not a major concern
@@davidtalon5553 oh you know him personally? Wow that must be really neat
Jodorowsky hated Lynch because he got to direct Dune. The man can get over his failed proyecy
I thought Dune was rich in Spice, not salt.
Ha! You need more likes
The Salt will flow!
Have a thumbs up. :D
The Salt reduces life.
The Salt restricts consciousness.
The Salt is irrelevant to space travel.
Acid
Ouch that stings
My thoughts are that Jordo was in love with the psycadelic/messianic aspects, Lynch was interested in the psycho sexual aspects and the current director is interested in actually telling the science fiction story.
YUPPP 😕🎯
Thank u
Yeah, that seems pretty legit my dude
Spot-on (from what we've all seen), but also _really_ looks...less than inspired, visually. I'm stoked to go see it, but the shot-by-shot comparison someone published on RUclips helped me tone down my expectations.
CeeGee Oh I’m fully ready to be disappointed. Almost all my favorite childhood books have been butchered by Hollywood. Dune, Enders Game, Starship Troopers, I Robot, etc.
But I’ll pony up to see almost anyone take on Dune. Because no matter how bad they mess it up it will still have some small piece of the story I love.
“Mr. Jodorowski is a dangerous, jealous man” - Baron Harkonnen
all eccentric geniuses are dangerous
@@nasimagdam2723 "geniuses"
@@Ry-tc5tr geniuses dont care about spelling, thats rote memorization
@@nasimagdam2723 I'm 100% sure you're not even old enough to be on here kid. Besides you probably don't know a lick of what you said.
@@KhoaLe-uc2ny thats because you're a normie. you think you know things.
Jodo is one of those fans who writes his own stories based off the material and then judges the original story for not being like his
Ah, like all the new star wars... got it.
As a true artist
He thinks he's improving the stories lol
Cringe fanfiction lmao
Jodorowsky was the original Johnlock truther.
it is incredibly predictable, because there is a whole series of books it's based on lol
Yeah lol and he's not going to completely fuck with the story like Jodorowsky planned to.
Villeneuve atleast read it and doesnt need to rape stuff
@@ChupeTTe he did end up reading it.
Was just going to say the same thing. I hope it is predictable and someone finally does the books justice.
Like lord of the rings - Frodo takes the ring and goes in a cave to chill for a few hundred of years
Jodorowsky: “ it’s a big budget movie so it will be generic“
Also Jodorowsky: “ my version of Dune would have been the most expensive movie ever made“
Yep, because this guy is a big assed cinesnob who thinks that what comes out of his ass is gold.
@@Neville60001
"shits gold"
Alexandro Lannister Jodorowsky
@@Neville60001 literally happened in the Holy Mountain
The context is different, is not fair to compare a 2020 big budget film with a 1975 one, Jodorowsky is egocentric, but all the ideas he had at that time and his unusual behaviour made that the studios hadn’t wanted to invest in his movie, also his movies are awesome, his version of Dune would have been interesting and is known that the story board of his version has an historical value and have been referebced in lots of movies.
It wasn't the most expensive movie as there were a few productions with bigger budgets.
But it was still a huge investment, and the studio was not sure that they would be able to make their money back as they thought that the mainstream public wouldn't be interested in such a weird movie
Jodo: “It will be predictable!”
Dune fans: “You mean it’s going to be a faithful adaptation of the book?”
Jodo: “‘Hmmm… er… yeah…”
Dune fans: “Excellent!”
This!
Lmao
But it wasnt.
@@tengr6068 wasn't to what
@@tengr6068 it was about as faithful as you can get with a 150 minute runtime.
I think Jodo's critique is that Vill loves Dune too much. Jodo never loved Dune. He never even read it. He wanted to "rape" Dune (Jodo's exact words)
oh gawd...
Annie1962 Not even the worst thing he’s said.
That whole section of the documentary where he talks about “raping” is so incredibly uncomfortable. He literally says you have to rape your bride. Gross dude.
BlownMacTruck That’s what I meant.
"Rape it with love."
Is something lost in translation here?
We should all just instead take this moment to appreciate the simple, sobering fact that Jodo didn't direct the LOTR movies.
Then take another moment to appreciate that Peter Jackson really did make us all pay to watch him butcher The Hobbit... THREE TIMES.
@@bobbyrutledge7998 TBF Jackson didn't wanna do The Hobbit, he himself stated that it should've been Guillermo del Toro but because reasons with either WB/New line cinema they gave Jackson no choice but to direct it.. if you've seen all the Behind the scenes you can see Jackson literally breaking down on set all depressed and sh*t.. Execs even pushed him to make it a Trilogy.
@@bobbyrutledge7998 You can thank producers and execs for that. They gave him one month to prepare everything, including the story, when it usually takes more than a year, they did not even storyboard the movie. They threatened him that if he did not accept to direct them, they were going to go to someone else. And Guillermo del Toro left in the first place, because there was too much producer and exec involvement. So they probably did the same to Jackson.
In the movies, you can see there is a constant attempt to tie the Hobbit with LOTR, which I think is mainly thanks to execs and producer who wanted to capitalize the popularity of LOTR.
@@farrex0
The month thing can be thanks to poor communication and a stupid technicality in that Guillermo del Toro had spent a lot of time prepping the Hobbit duology he wanted to make. The script, concept art, etc. It was all ready but the dumbasses upstairs wouldn't greenlight the project. Guillermo couldn't wait any longer and bounced because the wait was conflicting with his time for other projects. This forced Peter to come back to keep the project alive. But they had to scrap everything del Toro prepped because it was too much of Toro's style for Jackson to pull off. The Hobbit trilogy is another example why Warner Bros. is the shittiest company you can get funding from when it comes to any franchise adaptation. Which is why we should hold our breath for Dune. If WB can't keep Villenueve on a leash with this franchise they are going to find a way to ruin this after Messiah.
I laughed out load when I read this comment
Anyone here after part two....
Yep! 😂
Aye,
Part 2 proved yet again why it was the right choice not to make Jodo's version of Dune.
DV's Dune Part 2 is projected to hit $650 million worldwide by the end of its theater run.
That's one fuck of a "failure"
😂 I wish I could fail into 650 million dollars. A little over a billion when you combine both films intakes.
That is almost more than all of Jodo's films have made combined.
Yes and it was not super predictable because of the changes made.
Part Two is even better than Part One! They were definitely able to fully adapt the book's themes over two films. One: Tyrannic gov & imperialism. Two: Dangers of masses and idolizing. That's why I love Two so much.
I'm one of the few that thought Dune 2 was a visually beautiful movie that ultimately didn't deliver.
The sheer hypocrisy of a man who wanted to 'rape Herbert's vision' seething over another director getting the one up on him is just unbelievable. The man rants about creativity and artistic vision but couldn't have come up with his own story and instead wanted to adapt someone else's? Nothing validates this childlike behavior and any other entitled, snobby elitists seething over this can stay mad and continue coping. Villeneuve's tribute to Frank Herbert was a box office success and an impact on fans of the book and casual moviegoers alike. Deal with it 🤣
Jodorowsky's Dune wouldn't have been an adaptation, it would have been a retelling of the Testament of John IN SPACE, with the name of a much better book (namely: Dune) as a label to sell tickets.
It was supposed to be bigger than The Star Wars, and more monumental than Cleopatra. Basically The Bible 2: Electric Boogaloo. IN SPACE.
Funny wording considering his past.
Hell, I read dune for the first time after watching the new movie. Rewatched it after finishing the book and I nearly cried at how they captured the essence of the book and characters. A true adaptation and Jodo's version, frankly, would have been embarrassing if it was ever actually made. I genuinely think it would have been worse than lynch's version
@@mojotheaverage I can only imagine you are the most prosaic person in history.
@@mojotheaverageI agree with you. Villeneuve has shown creative talent - and an elegant one. I remember Chani is red hair in the book, and when I saw the trailer, I was disappointed. But then, I saw the films and OMG… The first shots of Chani in the dreams, where her hair are red because of Arrakis light and the spice melange… It was such a beautiful, surprising idea, and it carried the meaning that maybe the red hair in the book meant: like other Fremen, Chani is the desert - they make one with the planet. Villeneuve understood and conveyed that spirit, instead of dying the actress hair (easy, expected) he used sophistication: warm reddish light, colours of sand, glittering reflections of spice, nature dressed her hair, and that… That was powerfully creative!
That’s why Paul fell so deeply in love with her: it was his world, his true home, his destiny, he would become one with the spice and with Arrakis through his union with Fremen and Shani, developing his gift of foresight…
Jodorowsky is just jealous and petty. He would have destroyed Herbert’s work instead of honouring him and giving fans what they want. When someone watches an adaptation, they don’t want the film maker to steal and recreate the world they love. That’s something a lot of egotist artists don’t accept - and that’s why they usually fail, see the Witcher by Netflix, for instance. They transformed Sapkowski’s masterpiece and turned it into something else that betrays the original world building. It’s so bad that their lead actor, who plays the Witcher and who is a true fan of the series, decided to quit filming, and is leaving.
“Raping” another creative’s work (like Jodorowski would say) is disgusting.
Jodo's criticism on 'industrial cinema' with large money budget, 'no surprises' and are 'predictable' should be more applicable to Mulan (or those Disney live-action remakes) instead of a Denis Villeneuve movie LMAO
I am always the having the feeling that Jodo thinks so-called 'blockbuster movies' with big budget are necessarily related to mindless action sequence and entertainment, without any substance or message, so from what I saw in the Dune documentary, he really despised Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, probably thinking it's not ambitious enough and has no imagination at all.
The more I learn about Jodo the less I like him. He should just be thankful that John Lennon handed him a career.
Actually he is also really critic with his friend nicolas widding refn for sticking to the hollywood sistem, in his own words: " he will never achieve greatness because he is trying to make a living of this"
@@tahnadana5435 That kind of pretentiousness is what makes Jodorowsky silly. Art is a great thing but it's still entertainment, even that which some pretentious people call "high art". If you want to be a genius, make some revolutionary breakthrough in science and become one of those that actually improve living standards in the world. Making a weird adaptation of Dune isn't going to help mankind.
@@DrFunk-rk6yl whats the story with John Lenon?
@@archmagenemo I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that El Topo was the favourite film of John Lennon who also helped produce Jodo's next film The Holy Mountain
Jodorowsky tried to adapt Dune, could'nt do it, and therefore Dune cannot be adapted. Any successful Dune adaptation is a direct threat to Jodorowsky's ego. That is all there is to it.
Jordorowski: "It's going to be predictable."
Herbert: "Predictable? A movie based on a book I wrote in 1965?"
Jodorowsky's Dune just shows how much Jodorowsky doesn't like Dune as it was written.
Ok I want to make two separate comments. First, I'm so glad that Jodorowsky didn't get his version done, I do not think it would have been a good movie let alone an accurate translation of Dune. This is a guy who was casting his own son to be Paul, so his ego is off the charts.
Second, I do want to point out that just because a book has been out for a long time doesn't mean it will be predictable. There are still many out there that haven't' experienced the books. So let's hope that the movie doesn't get dumbed down and maintains the levels it has (even in the first most simple book).
I think its more of a comment on the color palette and design.
@@Wayfarer17683 It would have been a great movie maybe not a great adaption, He is better filmmaker than villeneuve.
Hoo boy. A whole year goes by and Jodorowsky's comments REALLY didn't age well. Dune is back and it's better than anyone ever would have guessed. What a great time to be a Dune fan!
right? he just got fucked and we got one of the best scifi and more films to come
Its like the modern Epic of Gilgamesh
Absolutely. I didn't know anything about Dune before the trailers started coming out and now I've consumed so much lore material after coming out of the theater and can't wait for the first book to get delivered to my door. I'm jumping right in. Whoever this jordo dude is he was just stupendously wrong. Bye
@@Fyre0 Yeah I didnt know anything aswell, never watched the Lynch movie(even tho im a huge Lynch fan) because I wanted to experience the way Denis did it, I just love all his movies, and as a lore addict im just holding myself from all videos and breakdowns so I can watch the next movies without any spoiler, after that i will read the books, watch Lynch version and just go deep in dune lore
@@Fyre0 Jodorowsky wanted to make his own Dune movie, it failed. And anyone who attempts to make a Dune movie automatically makes him angry. He thinks only he had the vision to make a successful Dune movie, so he wants all other Dune adaptations to fail because of it. He must be freaking furious now.
3:40 Actually, the only thing I ever knew about Jodorowski, is that he did NOT make Dune.
That's literally the only thing I knew about him until now.
He also write the incal and its a really good comic
Read the metabarons! Brutal and great!
@@acselacsel its ironic his sci fi graphic novels were so good than his preconceived notion of dune.
acsel tamez Incal is amazing.
His version of dune would have been if you combined Flash Gordon with A Clockwork Orange. It would have been completely incomprehensible. Maybe worth watching if you happen to be on magic mushrooms or dmt.
I love Jodorowsky, but he's like one of the charismatic leaders that Herbert wrote about.
I used to like him but he’s so cringe
FACTS 😶🤣💀 LMAOOO
You mean warned about.
This is the probably the first true burn wrapped in a compliment wrapped in a pretty smart observation I've ever read.
He's not really serious. Dude took alot of these quotes outta context. And Jodorowsky has always been critical of the Hollywood / studio system.
Alejandro "I didn't read dune, but thought its fantastic" Jodorowsky
😲....... Didn't knew that.
Explains a lot 🤦🤷
you can't actually make a movie without reading it. it's impossible or you don't actually make anything recognisable
@francesquitor 2.0 IIRC he said that in the documentary about it.
@francesquitor 2.0how do you direct a film about a book you never read. can that make any less sense or are you mental. or do you have a job you know nothing about becausebplease tell me what you find I in can have you fired for incompetence. do you process this??? you absolutely cannot.
@Zeb Shah yeah I know, I've worked in the industry as an assistant editor. but again impossible he didn't read the script. literally imposible
He's just salty that Denis could make his adaptation of Dune real, whereas his failed attempt at an expensive Dune fanfic predictably failed to be made.
Exactly this is was I was gonna say, i hate the fact that these days all film adaptations of books, anime and games are all the director's personal "vision".
They need to stop being so egocentric and simply adapt the original works, because this is what the fans want.
This is why the newest version, is liked. Because it's faithful to the original.
What makes it worse is that Jodorowski didn't even read the book...
( I haven't even read the book myself, and watching the movie made me feel it was faithful. )
I feel like Jodorowsky is rather like the Baron. "I have informed your nephews about my plan." "MY PLAN!" "The plan...
😂!
DV is just trying to make a DUNE film with the same regard that Peter Jackson did with lord of the rings. J-ski needs to dial it down.
This is absolutely correct. Jackson REALLY looked into how the majority of the fans of LOTR saw the story, and made that story. It is a true service to the fans of that book; giving them something that reflects their imagination. Of course there was elements missing (cough Tom) but as a movie, it really made readers connect with the book. I have really high hopes (and the trailer obviously supports it) that Dune will be the epic film we want.
You should never compare denis to jackson. They have two completely differnt distinct styles. denis is making HIS dune, while peter jackson was making an action adventure based soley on tolkiens interpretation.
Denis is not making an action adventure, this will not have mass appeal just like blade runner 2049, doesnt mean it will be bad, but only his fans will love it, because it wont be filled with tons of action and fight scenes, dune just lacks that fun thrill ride aspect.
I would count myself lucky if one of denis's acction scenes lasted more the a few seconds. Dont expect lord of the rings, expect blade runner in space.
This will be more comparable with a kubrick film then something like indiana jones.
You should probably watch 2049 before you go about thinking denis will be making an action adventure. Maybe he has decided to do something a bit differnt after the mass audiences repsponse to blade runner not having enough excitement, but its doubtful since he is an art house director.
Jackson DESTROYED LotR, all the characters of Men were totally corrupted from the books and people sing that hacks praises... shameful.
SO if this guy does that to Dune it will be... expected.
jackson ended up completely screwing over the story in lotr, though the first movie wasn't entirely awful. but as time went on, he just got worse and worse with it, very obviously just inserting his own flashy, extraneous crap, just to draw in that much more box office. his production of the hobbit was worse yet.
He just wanted the name recognition to get it financed. He had no interest in the actual story. He’s a dirtbag, whines about how people won’t give him money then turns around and brags about how much money he was going to spend.
The thing that bothers me is that he doesn't want to make Dune, he wants to make an original project inspired by Dune. It's like not even "his version" cause it's just... not Dune imo
@@mpbarry46 Succinctly put, I feel like I would want to watch it but I wouldn't want it to be called Dune.
Ego.
@@mpbarry46 He just sounds like a bitter man to me.
So right. Joderowski was not making "Dune" he was wanting to take a name, Dune, and make his own movie that had NO relationship to the source material....he never read the damn book and seemed proud of the fact he didn't know dick about the piece he was "adapting" I also take issue about him being referred to as a "director" of a Dune adaptation..... it never got that far because it was totally impractical... he has never directed any adaptation of Dune. He comes across as an angry, bitter, deluded old man who is milking this for all he can as it gives him some relevance, however tenuous
Same with every movie adaptation. So what?
Many words can be used to describe Denis Villaneuve, but “industrial” is not one of them. He is one of the most bold, uncommercial directors working today who is also popular and well-loved. He just wants to adapt the actual book with his flare
I agree... but then again, when it comes to being bold and uncommercial, Jodorowsky makes Villeneuve look like Michael Bay.
I think he means production style - its a safe production that uses modernist-style costumes and sets - Alejandro wanted to do much more wild designs
@@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 Indeed, the movie did not impact me visually, it's in that grey/brown scale that have invaded the whole blockbuster landscape except for a few marvel movies (which I don't even enjoy as far as content lol)
@@gorgnaxxangrog3183 This movie uses tons of practical effects, they even built full size ornithopter's. Let me guess you're not just a simple "layman"😂😂
@@gorgnaxxangrog3183 Yeah and I bet you think Holy Mountain is a masterpiece, get off your pretentious high horse.
So, in other, words, Villeneuve decided to respect Frank Herbert's seminal work.
@Cyrene2000 right on sister ! on the nose
By Changing character genders and traits? And now the protagonist.
Heh. No, he didn't. I just saw it. He left out a whole bunch of key scenes from the book, and even key characters! Plus, he also screwed up key scenes from the novel. Jodorowsky was right!
Definitely not.
@Jean Sanchez Denis said chanis going to be the protagonist in part 2. And liet was chanis Dad in the book so I don't think Frank Herbert meant the gender to be incidental.
91 years old and still has not learned respect and appreciate another person's work without making it about himself.
It's very typical of of people with narcissistic personality traits, and he definitely qualifies in that regard.
"Too predictable" - soo .. he is suggesting that Denis should stray away from the source material. He is also calling the source material predictable. I also remember in recent times when certain writers did their own thing - just to avoid predictability which made for one of the biggest disappointments in television history.
I've never seen his movies, but i have read his comics (Megalex and The Metabarons) and i think he's a mad genius. Haven't seen Jodorowski's Dune yet but it is certainly on my wishlist.
@@HanoiTower you will never See it cause he never directed a Dunemovie
@@jihad4realniz it's a documentary
Your video on Jodorowsky’s Dune is actually what changed my opinion on his proposed Dune adaptation. It would have been awesome but it wouldn’t have been Dune. I’m glad that we’re getting a faithful adaptation from Villeneuve. The most important aspect of Dune is the central theme and that’s something that I think both Lynch and Jodorowsky missed.
I think its childish and shallow of you guys to prejudge Jodorowks's Dune as "missing the point" just because he decided to depart from the source material.
He's not "missing the point" because he never intended to get to the point at all .. he simply saw the potential of making something different out of the base concepts of the book, I don't get why that can be perceived as so "wrong" or "misguided" before you even get to see the end product which sadly never came to fruition due to funding (not due to any lack of creative ability, mind you).
I've seen the storyboards for Jodo's Dune and they are breathtakingly sensual and unique, they would have been among the most surreal, unique and sensual imageries in cinema history if they had been made as they were on the storyboards, 10x better than any visuals Denis Vill ever had in his movies.. try to google for those storyboards if you can, I can assure you those story boards are ten times more beautiful and creative than how the new Dune trailer looks ...
If you want Dune you have to read Dune.
Every other medium is something else entirely. There is no "close" or "true" adaptation.
I see how people give in to that notion but it just doesn't exist. Think about it for a while. There is so much you have to sacrifice, leave, add, reimagine... never the same. Not even close.
@@88feji Just call it whatever you want but it wouldnt have been Dune
@@88feji Yeah well his idea was an un-filmable mess and failed to get beyond those gaudy storyboards. Good riddance.
Of course Lynch got the central theme right. There are things that I don't like about it and he may have gotten some particulars wrong, weirding modules for example or heart plugs. But overall it was Dune and Frank Herbert himself agreed that it was.
Jodorowsky: "I feel sorry for you."
2021 Dune Creative Team: "I don't think of you at all."
"The director of the Dune movie that never got made..." So much mental gymnastics in those articles. You cannot be a director of a movie that doesn't exist. He had grand ideas for something that wasn't even Dune. It was further from Dune than Nosferatu is from Dracula. Or than Star Wars is from Flash Gordon. Yet he still feels entitled to criticize directors who actually *made* a Dune movie.
"Star Wars is from Flash Gordon" I find that funny. I take it that you know that Lucas was a big fan of Flash Gordon,as well as Buck Rogers. He tryed to get the rights to make a Flash Gordon movie, Star Wars was his back up plan.
Me myself is the director of star wars movie that never got made
Based on that logic then Tarkovski's Stalker is not even the "real" Stalker. Or Kubrick's The Shining is not the "real" The Shining... By the way I'm referring to your statement about "that his vision of Dune wasn't even the real Dune" to clarify.
By their logic I am the director of Stephen Kings IT HBO Miniseries that never got made.
@@LukeParon that's funny, but I was referring to the notion of that an adaptation from literature to film has to be exactly the same as the original to be "the real" thing.
This new trailer made me start reading the books. A months later Im half way through God Emperor... Where has this been all my life?
I picked up the book too after seeing the trailer. Unfortunately I’m a quarter of
The way through it being a new parent and not having enough time. But I’m so in love with it. I’m getting pretty obsessed with the franchise to be honest
Austin Harp no shit eh? My second son just was born and I’ve been reading Dune while looking after him. Small world lol .
Worth reading the prequels by his son Brian Herbert. Not as deep as Franks work but great fleshing out of the universe.Epic action too
I decided to go through the audiobook
Same here. I find myself discovering new truths while reading it and applying it to my life. Most books are distractions while dune actually changes the way I perceive the world and what is possible.
He's just salty cause Denis actually gets to make a movie.
Exactly
I was literally typing the same thing.
and because he would have done a masterpiece and Denis won't
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Would've... could've... should've. Meh.
You gotta understand the history of Jodorowskys career. Hollywood rejected him back then. They thought he was too ambitious and he was. Tbh it's a miracle Villeneuve even gets to make this movie after how mediocre Bladerunner did at the box office. Jodo had to move to europe, which at that time was the place to go for movies that were "out there". No one was giving you any limits. And he is disappointed because in his eyes Villeneuve didn't take this chance to do sth similar. I think Villeneuve once hinted at there being a Dune Cinematic Universe if the movie does well. And I gotta agree with Jodo, that really sounds like a business deal. People have had enough of highly polished movies without soul. Not saying Dune will have no soul, but in comparison Villeneuve's version does look very bland. "Technical", like something Douglas Trumbull would've made. We'll just have to wait.
Jodorowsky still say that. In Italy, when a person is jealous of someone else's success, we say that this person is "gnawing". Actually, Jodorowsky's gnawing can be heard even through the web. He might be a genius, but, as many geniuses, his arrogance and his overconfidence make him blind. Villeneuve's "Dune" is a good movie. Not a masterpiece, but a very good movie. It's a right compromise between the authorial vision and the box office expectations. It's enjoyable and balanced, and a good film adaptation of the novel. Jodorowsky should have been more honest.
The salt must flooowwww!
🤣
When Jodo says 'predictable' I hear 'faithful to the books'.
Yeah I'm pretty happy he never made that version of his. Looked like an acid trip of a 12 year old.
@@ktom5262 I'm sorry to tell you this Tom, but I think you might need glasses :D
Is the trailer formulaic? Sure, it's a trailer. But the art direction and production design of this film is far from bland.
@@ktom5262 👓 👍
@@ktom5262 there are plenty of super hero movies for you to watch.
I'm fine with it being "predictable." It's not fukin Agatha Christie.
Why can't he just make an animated version of his Dune? It would probably make him happy.
He doesn't want to make Dune. He wants to make his dune. I'm not sure anyone would pay for that.
@@kenan8479 Oh, I think a lot of Jodorowsky fans would pay to see it.
I think the art is tied up in Moebius's estate. Same reason why we don't have a replica of the Dune book he shopped around at studio's to get the funding.
@@rinwesley3092 Maybe! Except, to see it, someone has to pay to make it first.
MsEnglishtea In light of all the popularity that his documentary got and with all the stir because the IP is being brought back into the mainstream consciousness, I’m sure this will happen.
If there's a whole new generation of Dune fans, because of this movie -- I'd say that Villeneuve's version was a success!
"Predicatable" as in like... book accurate?
The scenario leaked 60 years ago.
Lmao this what I thought too, of course its predictable, the book is old as shit
@worldd777 And visually predictable, I mean, it looks pretty generic. Come on guys, I love Villanueve but It doesn't look like something we haven't seen before.
@@danpenia219 yes, I will have to agree with that. Some designs and costumes are awesome but some of them seem very generic and terrible. Sardaukar( in Harkonnen uniform?) for example.
@@Deathintebriz You mean like the way the Sardaukar were dressed as Harkonnen troops when they attacked Arrakis to conceal the Emperor's direct involvement? It is pretty generic to include details straight from the book.
NEWSFLASH:
BITTER OLD MAN COMPLAINS ABOUT THINGS
Dune will suck , the Trailer States itll be a Less stylish Version of the 82 movie
@@bendover2684 it was 84..and it looks good from trailer..give it a chance eh?
@@neilmurphy966 ah yes 84, but No, it does Not Look good to me. boring, even Bland.
Dark, No color.
I'll probably Zapp through a Stream and then determine If i spent more time with it
It looks like shit dude. I looks like an US army promo. And n thats the whole point with Villneuve he plays on the American army dreams sentiment of mainstream American. Just like his previous movie. He is a war propaganda movie maker
@@bendover2684 less stilish, lmao. The 84 movies is garbage.
There is nothing more spiteful, more covetous than an aging egomaniacal self-proclaimed auteur director.
Jodorowsky failed, so he's bitter & wants everyone else to fail.
Yeah he sets off thr hater alarm.
now now he was right at first but he was surprised but part two will think its going to fail
but part two going to be good
jodorowsky not senile hes just old
King of the Salt Mine
A crab mentality
Sound the trumpets!
Let the pretentious Dune Wars begin!
Roll the text crawl!
"A long time ago, in a mind far, far out..."
DUNE WARS
Episode 1: The Jodorovsky Menace
Shaddup.
My name is a killing word, perhaps it's also a Reviewing word...
How dare you
I saw that Jodorowsky documentary. I may be in the minority, but I found it to be a two hour orgy of evidence that he clearly did not get Dune. Now he's just a bitter man eating bitter grapes.
You don't get it, he was not making "Dune", he was using it as a excuse to make his own thing.
Think we should create a Ghola of Salvador Dali so he can finally play the Emperor. Don’t listen to him, he is just a noise maker and probably jealous.
Excellent comment!...
Jodorowsky wanted to change cinema, a cinematic experience sprawling over a dozen hours. its ironic how he rejoiced in Lynches failure, because just under a decade later lynch would achieve with television what jodorowsky envisioned for cinema. Twin Peaks is the inception of hour long cinematic serialized television drama, it was the first of its kind which is now replicated by nearly every other show on network television
It's too bad for Jodorowsky that Netflix didn't exist back then. His 14 hour movie could have been turned into a "series".
It would still have been a POS, because it wasn't really an adaptation of _Dune_ .
@@Neville60001 agreed. But they could have renamed it and presented it as another story. Dude was wild, so I imagine a wild ride.
*"URGH... IT'S ITS NOT LIKE OTHER MOVIES AND IS LIKE... TOO LONG??? THEN LIKE... WHAT'S THE POINT...? LIKE IF SOME BRAINLET BOOMER ISN'T GOING TO ENJOY IT THEN WHY COCKING BOTHER..."*-Some idiot who also happens to be you
@@SciHeartJourney I'm with you on this one. I won't define myself as a fan of any parties/people involved in all this, and having heard from everyone I think I got the point from Dune's fans - they sound legit. Yet I'd have loved to see that freaking nonsense high acid induced 20h Netflix show shat from that team, don't even need the Dune branding idc, that would have been something really neat to see by itself. (also dang, didn't know Jodo was such a whiny lil brat :/ like dude, get over it.)
Nah... fuck him. I can't with him. He'll take a shot of dune and make it into his own personal man-child LSD trip for 24 hours... yea.... not for me thanks. Humanity is better without it
Jodorosky: "This doesn't look raped at all!"
Lol he would say that!
I thought he say it like this "what, this is not how U rape a book at all"
"not enough harkonnens taking a shit"
😂
@@enocescalona "Why isn't Paul laying a golden turd?!?!"
Jodo's High school yearbook quote: Its not enough that I should fail; others should fail as well!
I absolutely love Jodorowsky, and simultaneously am thrilled he never got to make his version of DUNE. It would have been a nightmare that wasn't even DUNE anymore.
Let's not kid ourselves. Jodorwosky's movie would'a been a disaster
But it would have been memeable
Big facts
I mean it would have been like every other psychedelic movie from the 70s. Hippies would have gone to see it and immediately forgotten about it because they were on acid the whole time, and it would become this curiosity like Jonathan Livingstone Seagull or, frankly, El Topo that you vaguely hear about and movie snobs pretend to like.
At least Brontis would have gotten a decent acting credit out of it. Maybe.
Jodorwosky think his film would have been more ambitious than Star Wars, but really it would have as laughably campy as Flash Gordon.
When you’re rich you’re eccentric, when you’re poor you’re simply crazy.
Thank you for saying Ville-neuve correctly. ❤️
Almost...not quite there yet..
@@ChristmasLore - Yeah, but pretty damn close for us 'Muricans, ya gotta admit. 😉😅 lmao
Honestly, I'm surprised Jorodowsky managed to say anything without using the word rape.
Why would anyone want to consult the guy that didn't make a movie about a book he didn't even want to adapt? Wasn't his version basically a completely different story, but with the same characters and settings?
Pretty much, all his films are to artsy with a heap of pretentiousness on top.
His version of Dune would have been worse than Kathleen Kennedy's version of Star Wars.
No, Jodorowsky absolutely *did* want to adapt the movie. He read the whole thing in one sitting, not even sleeping or leaving his kitchen for three days, and he spent years of his life developing the project. He really, really, really wanted to make it. He'd wrangled some major, major talents into taking part, and hired four separate art teams to design the different planets and peoples. It was a major to-do. Then it fell apart, and he was devestated.
his version took a lot of liberties, particularly with the ending, but the story followed pretty closely to the book, apart from Paul's origins, and the stuff with the emperor was completely different, but the basic events and sequence were the same. It would probably have been closer to Dune than Blade Runner is to "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep."
Yep. This dude is a fanfiction writer.
that is some bitter ass shade he is throwing at Villeneuve especially when Denis used Pink Floyd in the trailer as a nod to Jodo.
I doubt it was villeneuve the one that edited the trailer and choose that song
Thomas Leaf YUP!
He used a Floyd song(albeit a crappy cover version).
Christopher Bassett The cover with the choir sounds better than the original which only had Waters on vocals.
@@Anubis22774 Ok.
To be fair to Jodorowsky, he can still make his so called failed "Dune" project, he just need to replace the name of his movie, replace his characters names, restructured his story so that there will be no hint or reference to frank herberts dune, that will remain, it could be great as an animated series to do it justice. I wish it could be done that way, its like he adapt his own graphic novels that were influence by dune like metabarons, incal and technopriest. Its not too late for him to do that if he wants to. He just needs to swallow his pride and ego and move on. He can still follow his own vision, which is great by the way, just stop calling it Dune, its frank herbert's not his.
'restructure the story'? I'm pretty sure he's already covered on that part.
he already done that, its the incal... i would like to see someone, no him, adapting metabarons
@@thepoppunx Taika Waititi was announced to be adapting The Incal recently
I watched a Jodorowsky movie once. A woman peed on a dead guy and brought him back to life. I never watched another Jodorowsky movie.
I think he's just cheesed that it actually looks like what the books described. I always got a very drab, brutalist vibe in my head for the visuals when I read Dune, whereas Jodorowsky's interpretation of it, from the concept art I saw, would have been this gaudy, prismatic eyesore.
To think that Hans Zimmer dedicated his time into rearranging a Pink Floyd track to honor him. LMFAO
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Julian The song in the trailer was a cover of “Eclipse” by Pink Floyd. Jodorowsky wanted Pink Floyd to compose the score for his movie.
@@Criiies he wanted Pink Floyd to do the soundtrack for his Dune. In this trailer it was an arrangement of Pink Floyd's song Eclipse. It was a love letter and he hated it. Probably envy
i doubt the trailer's music was done by Zimmer, it is not unusual for a third party to do the trailer for a film
@@Flufferz626 @reikun86 ah I see, thanks for clarifying
I believe Jodorowsky still hasn’t read Dune.
Maybe the sparknotes or again from friends over a dinner party.
@@diverguy3556 He actually did. But since you guys have no idea about Alejandro and his work keep guessing
I wonder if Denis has
aerbank I believe in that interview with Colbert before the trailer he mentioned reading it as a kid.
@@77solsken Deni has said he has read it multiple times since he was 13 and eve wrote out story boards when young
That guy did not have enough spice in his blood to properly see the future.
I just wish David Lynch wasn’t so upset. His movie didn’t fail as he believes. Yes, it could’ve been better, but that’s okay. I still loved it.
Princess Irulan coming on screen at the beginning to say "Beginnings are delicate times" made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I loved it.
I guess he is mostly upset because he didn't get to make it the way he intended. That's understandable.
I loved it 🤷🏻♂️
divorcedme keys?
Me too. I think every iteration of the story (1984 movie, scyfy series), each one has been quite faithful in different ways. I'm also finding myself appreciating them more now, knowing that Villeneuve's take is the one that's been missing. He's gonna nail it. So, it's sort of been a journey to get here, and we appreciate the stops made previously.
Films I'd like to see: Jodorowsky's Harry Potter.
That would be pretty much his Dune. Harry Potter is a chosen one narrative (albiet a self-aware, snarky one) which is pretty much what his dune was.
Best youtube comment I have read in 12 years.
Yes sir, and somehow I ‘m betting he would just take the name for marketing purposes than do whatever he wants.
Ahahhaha I'd love to see Jodorovsky's version of everymovie
"Jodo raping Harry Potter"
Wait that didn't come out well
Most people just have one ego. Alejandro Jodorowsky has egos within egos within egos.
Egoception.
I see egos, within egos. I see Jodorosky... and Villeneuve... feuding...
You could start your own school of herbertism
Lol
Jodorowsky shows many signs of a narcissist. Good of you to put him in his place.
Of course, he is a narcissist. Have you ever watched his movies?
His worst sin is his pretentiousness
He says he raped a woman in one of his movies.
@@delmarchipperson2049 Jodo says a lot of stuff for attention.
Anyone else remember Ralph Bakshi’s prediction that Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings would be a failure, because his version failed and it couldn’t be done.
Tbf Ralph Bakshi's version is a work of art and quite technologically impressive in its own right with the use of rotoscopy, and at points seems to capture the spirit of Tolkien more so than Jackson's movies. I think it's kind of similar to how I feel about Lynch's Dune at this point.
I haven’t seen it since it was released (found it very disappointing at the time) but it’s artistic merits don’t alter the fact that it was a commercial and critical (for the most part) failure and Jackson’s versions were neither.
@@robertpearson8798, he should've planned for a trilogy of movies, or had it converted it into a TV miniseries.
Bakshi’s interpretation of The Black Riders alone were greater than Jackson’s.
@@miracle_grrrl_mira I loved the Bakshi version. I grew up on it and watched it like a hundred times. For its time, it was like nothing else out there. When Jackson's came along, it dethroned it in a sense but it's still a fantastic film in my opinion.
He did end up creating the masterpiece The Incal with Mobieus, so his Dune attempt wasnt a failure, just a leaping off point, he was never really that interested in Dune as a work of literature
Jodorowski's version is like taking pure spice melange.
Jodorowsky's version is like taking ultraspice.
This is by far the best comment. 🤣
Hahaha exactly.
Freebasing spice
(whisper) it expands consciousness...
"I would have joined the Marines, but..."
"I didn't make Dune while tripping on shrooms for 2 years, but..."
Same energy.
@Robert Cook Seek help before you kill someone.
@Robert Cook There's no "a" in "meek". Try again.
This really comes across as spite. He didn’t get what he wanted and he refuses to just be happy for Villeneuve and the fans.
I came away from the J Dune documentary is that he didn’t understand Dune at all, or, at the least, he didn’t try to understand it. Didn’t Herbert say it was anti authoritarian? Yet J tried to make it about a real messiah?
Same story with the Lynch version, which portrayed Paul Atreides as a genuine living god unlike the book deconstructing the archetypical "chosen one" narrative.
That was my takeaway as well. That he would have used the names, places, broad strokes of plot etc as a template, but that it wouldn't end up the same at all, or with the same message. He warped the story to fit his message, and didn't even read the novel until he was well on his way to getting everyone together for the production.
I love Jodo’s graphic novels so much. Especially the metabarons. I think the incal has hints of the version of Dune he wanted to make, and he should be happy that he made his own original universe and it being as good as it is. I feel like Jodo is at a point where he is like that grumpy old man stereo type. But i think he should be happy for Denis. Like idk, I’m all about artists supporting artists. I feel like he is a bit jealous that Denis was able to cross into the main stream in a way Jodorowsky has never done.
At least he has imagination! This new dune looks worse than Lynch Dune! 🤯🤯🤯
I always loved Jodorowsky's work (specially the comics) but always took them with aa grain of salt. And never fully agreed with his philosophies. Metabarons is a masterpiece, but you really can see some distracting flaws regarding its writing. The art carries a lot of the experience. In my opinion Jodorowsky is not only on his grumpy old man phase, but he is a grumpy old man that was all of his life the most insufferable "ARTIST" stereotype to exist. Hyper egotistical, incredibly pretentious and way too deep into his own world. So the only thing predictable is Jodo's reaction, since he surely, as one of the world's most unconventional artists to ever exist, will have constant spite towards high budget movies. And specially this adaptation.
I am truly glad to get an accurate adaptation than a literal, in his words, r*pe of the original story for the sake of "ART". The man does good work, but he is a natural egomaniac.
I'm sure if he could he would live in a structure build around his own body like his Giger version of the Baron.
@@hanniffydinn6019 - You wish 😅💀
Hanniffy Dinn Actually, it looks real and grounded.
I was thinking he should have made a graphic novel from his Dune script.
*One year later*
Opinions that didn't age well.
Dune is out now, it's AMAZING, and it has gained a new cult follower in me. I never read the books or watched any of the previous media. All of my knowledge about Dune came from Starbucks/Dune hybrid memes. Now I'm all in.
Jodorowsky's version wouldn't have been loved by fans of the books, but, he's right about Denis' adaptation.
It was a lacklustre film. Visually _spectacular_ but does not capture the spirit of Dune. Chalamet is not Paul and probably never will be. Zendaya is a horrendous actress. Jessica was annoying as hell. Duncan and Gurney were pointless in the movie. Duke Leto was a naïve soyboy. The baron is simply not the richly written, unique villain of the books. Paul isn't a mentat in the movies. They never use the word Jihad in the movies. It's trash really. Visually spectacular trash.
@@adamsirin7249 Commenting the same thing on more than one comment? Take it easy pal 😆
@@adamsirin7249 trash? Lols get real boi
@@adamsirin7249 I hate to say this, but you sir are in the minority here. The movie was quite faithful to the source material, with a few exceptions like the fact that Mentats aren't mentioned. Timothy Chalamet did a great job honestly, and saying that he isn't Paul because he didn't reflect your interpretation of the character is unfair criticism in my opinion. The acting in general was very good, I don't exactly know what you have against Zendaya but she did fine in the scenes she was in. The word Jihaad is a very loaded one for obvious reasons, even if the original meaning of the phrase doesn't reflect what people associate it with now. They do mention a Holy War, which is the exact same thing, so I don't exactly understand this point of yours. Jessica was convincingly portrayed as someone struggling with personal feelings in the face of greater obligation. All this to say that I don't really understand your point of view. This is all my own opinion of course, and I don't begrudge anyone for holding differing opinions to my own.
@@hcaz5818 It's visually spectacular trash bruv.
I'm gonna come right out and say, I love Jodorowsky, The Holy Mountain is genuinely one of my favorite films of all time, but he needs to chill the fuck out, here. I agree, the dude wasn't going to adapt Dune -- he was gonna use Dune as a platform to make a gorgeous lunacy-fueled work of art - Which I'm all for gorgeous lunacy-fueled works of art, that shit's what I live for... But it wasn't Dune. And the fact that Jodorowsky is up in arms about this like it's pissing on his lawn is laughable, at best-- Because if it's pissing on anyone's lawn, it's David Lynch... And David Lynch doesn't really... Care.
Really well said
He is a artist! And yeah... his Dune would have been unpredictable. Is that good or bad is matter of taste. What we know is that it would have been a hippy trip! In good and bad. Nothing wrong in that...
But I am really interested to see Willeneuw version. Even if it just a book adaptation. If Dune ever is gonna be made again... maybe trippy version would be interesting :)
It’s pissing on frank herberts lawn. Everyone else is just temporarily hired to mow.
Somebody is asking for Jodos comments. Somebody is holding a Mic in his face. Somebody wants him to be riled up.
Apart from that - Jodo's main argument is that Villeneuve's version will be a product of the industrie and has to function within these borders. True.
And he wished Dune to be high-art. That's important to him.
Nothing wrong with that.
J.M.W. What’s wrong about it is to assume an already proven director can’t produce high art with a budget. He calls the trailer predictable because it’s faithful. If you read any book and watched the trailer you wouldn’t be surprised with what they showed.
"Old man yells at cloud"
He does not know what the plot of Dune is.
Jodorowsky?
@@aldoborja4590 Jodorowsky definitely does not know the plot of Dune and if he does he it would only serve to prove he is a much bigger a tool than I thought. After watching Jodorowsky's Dune documentary I was nauseated at his narrative.
Quinn is a leading expert on the subject.
@@scpamplin I know, I hope (know) that Villeneuve will do the best Dune adaptation so far; he really looks inspired and seems to understand the psychological and contemplative background from the story, and from his previous films I know he know how to express it
@@aldoborja4590 it will definitely be a passionate adaptation of Herbert's work. I would much rather watch a recreation of love than a bastardization "take" on this work.
@@scpamplin it will be a "flop" at it's moment, but definitely a future cult classic
I feel as if the only person in the world who thinks Jodorowski's Dune was probably going to be complete dog shit and glad it wasn't made.
The idea of HR Giger, Mick Jagger, Salvador Dali, Orson Welles, and Pink Floyd making a movie together is something that sounds good on paper, but totally impossible to do in IRL.
It would have been casting disaster. Dali would have RUINED it with his flair for the caricatural posturing...i mean his Surrealism of the first paintings was fantastic....but then he fell for the money like a whore. Embarrassing. Mick Jagger as Paul ???? come on !! the whole thing would have aged like ... a rotten carpet. It would rank last on a Cult films list in 2021. Nobody with cash came forward. No surprise. Jodorowsky is a genius at Illustrative design. ( Meta-Barons...Incal... ) but that's about it. He should do an Animated Film of the Meta-barons. THAT's his Turf.
@@Claude1Rochon Mick Jagger was going to be Feyd, Jodorowsky’s son Brontis was Paul.
@@Claude1Rochon Santa Sangre is quite amazing, so are the first 30 or so minutes of Holy Mountain.
Honestly sounds terrible on paper imo.
HR Giger is the only person that wouldve worked.
I really respect Jodorowsky as a writer and occultist - I love his Metabarons series. But holy hell does he drink his own Kool-Aid
"Kool-Aid"
You mean acid.
My perspective as well. The guy made a lot of cool stuff, but he's so full of himself, he's insufferable at times.
More like his own urine, Emily L.
Jodorowsky's ego wont allow him to understand that Dune fans want a faithful, well transitioned version, on the big screen. They dont want a fever dream starring the nepotistic fever dreamer.
it's definitely the ego 100per cent. the downfall of many, many artists or wannabe artists. a little bit of humility goes a long long way.
Jodorowsky is an artist. Art films are rarely successful commercially, just as commercial films are rarely artistic. I think what he meant by "predictable" was more a reference to the patent film-making formula, where every aspect of the film is pre-calculated for popular appeal and marketability. Leading actors get showcase scenes to pawn their talents for career advancement, these other scenes we focus on objects that merchandising can exploit, this and that scene are for the video game, we got the goofy character for the kids, the romance for the Mothers, the big fight for the Dads, scenes that suggest refreshments, of course the obligatory cliffhanger to drive the sequel...
I mean maybe his version would have been fantastic had it been a tv show instead of movie cause you don't go to hollywood of all places and say I want a 20 hour movie, the general population I am pretty sure doesn't have the mental patience to sit through that.
Not to mention his line of being predictable so its bad is so friggin tiresome, its so overrated criticism of stories, yes while its a good idea to try new things, its not always a success, I'd much rather watch something I know the ending to that has a happy ending ahead of time than some weird for weird sake or ambigious(basically tells the fans to fill in the blanks cause they refuse to do it themselves) and depressing AF themes which is what alot of these artsy movies are.
I really agree
Not enough rape and huge falluces is what he meant
Of course Jodorowsky would say something like that. He wanted a 14 hour surreal psychedelic version of Dune. And he didn't read the book. He thought of a version of his own, but he wasn't the man to adapt this. Neither was David Lynch. Is like asking for Lars Von Trier to adapt The Lord of the Rings.
I totally want to see Lars Von Trier do Lord of the Rings!
@@Tracydot3 I would pay good money for it.
Anyone can adapt any book. Anyone who has a vision. He had a vision.
@@Tracydot3 Eh, Lord of the Cockrings, maybe...
As much as I enjoyed Jodo's early work, he's a bit of a narcissist who can't write anything that isn't in some way about himself. I'm glad he didn't make Dune.
you're glad he didn't make a great cinematic masterpiece. yep you belong in this era of mediocrity
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 You're assuming a whole lot to come to that conclusion.
Fact is, I'd be fine with Jodorowsky making his own sci fi movie if it wasn't all about ''raping Frank Herbert's work'' in his own words. Jodo only has respect for himself (and that, he has in overabundance).
As for it being a ''great cinematic masterpiece''... I don't know about that. Jodorowsky's cinema is interesting if it's your first contact with performative arts, but it's really not all that great as cinema.
Johnny Skinwalker Oh shut up
Johnny Skinwalker wow, your so sophisticated and edgy. Maybe someday the plebs will be as elite as you. Until then you will have to live in fantasy land with this kook.
I'll judge this movie after I actually see it, but I'm definitely interested. I love that Jodorowsky is criticizing this movie with rational that anyone who makes a movie not in the manner he did is somehow unauthentic artistically. Jodorowsky didn't even read a page of Dune when deciding to attempt to make a film of it, so he basically had a Dune skin for a movie about whatever he wanted and it didn't happen.
Jodorowsky's Dune would have been a psychedelic nightmare...
Peter Maxx nightmare.
It would have been hysterically bad and flopped harder than the Lynch film.
he would have had the battle for Arrakis fought by frogs or something, like in Holy Mountain
@@TrueFork He should stick to people pooping or whatever the hell else Tommy Chong Chilean version was doing before trying to 'rape the author with love.'
@@rogerfurlong1535 so raping people in real life then?
I have to admit, I would like to see his Dune. Especially if he incorporated H R Geiger’s work into the film. The artwork from his documentary is amazing.
Jordo is a legit boss. He deserves a dune.
The Denis Villeneuve's Dune movie trailer reminded me of the Dune books.
This channel made me remember why I liked them so much.
He just can't bear to think this film will eclipse the myth that his non existent version has become.
"What is essentially remembered from Jodorowksy's Dune is... The work of other people!".
I legit laughed out loud when you said that because I actually never thought of that. But I did some thinking...We would have actually have to stand 14 hours of Jodo's directing. 14 hours of Holy Mountain and El Topo. I wonder if the people agreeing with this and wanting the movie to be made have ever actually watched his movies because they sure are extremely hard to sit through. Sure, they are artistic but they are absolutely aggressively abstract and infuriatingly vague; but sometimes WAY on the nose. It's a mess. His movies are fascinating but they are a complete mess.
I remember the scene when they talk about Salvador Dalí as the Padashian Emperor, and how Dalí, being the jackass he was, wanted to charge a fortune for appearing in a two minute scene with a giraffe. Why? What does this have to do with the character of the Emperor? Just because he's "mad?" he has a giraffe? And Jodo is like "Yes! Yes! You'll have your giraffe we'll pay you anything!". And it really shows after multiple viewings how this could have gone... Badly.
I’ve seen all of his films, he’s one of my favorite filmmakers and I would’ve loved to see his version of Dune. Yeah his movies can be hard to digest at times but they aren’t impenetrable. The Holy Mountain has pretty consistent themes (anticapitalism, eastern philosophy and spirituality, mortality), even in its most opaque moments. And above all that, his movies are actually really entertaining. The visuals alone are eye widening.
@@Caleb-yn9ko tbh I sat through el Topo, and like I get what he was going for, but that doesn't make it not insane
@@Caleb-yn9ko Gotta love Anti-Capitalist's who dreams of making the Biggest Movie in History but hasn't got a Dime to pay for it. Pretty much sums up a lot of things.
Ah well back to the old familiar formules for you.
I liked The Holy Mountain but I never went back to see it again. No way would I sit through 14 hours of a Dune version while simultaneously wanting to throw up after seeing what he did to the story.
There is another word to describe him, "petty"
Villeneuve didn't take enough LSD for Jodorowskys taste.
Don't bring LSD into it. Lots of folks enjoy the occasional trip without turning into narcissists like Jodo.XD
@@Psil0 Sure, but neither was I referring to Jodorowskys character nor that it could have been infliuenced by acid. People can be assholes with and without drugs.
I think you are right he should take some.i think every artist should try it at least once.
@@Psil0 Doubt he ever needed it to turn out like he is.
He's clearly jealous and bitter about the fact that he never got the huge budget that would've been required to actually make his movie. I for one am happy it never got made, because it wouldn't have been Frank Herbert's Dune.
if it were made, it would have decreased the popularity of the novel.
No it would have not... have you seen earlier animated versions of Lord of the rings? They were... well weird... but the original book remained to be popular. But those animated versions were newer considered to be good...
I am guite sure that Jororowsky`s version would have been interesting. Would it have been popular.... not so sure about that. Would people who like the book, consider it good... most likely not or at least They would have said that it has nothing to do the book, but that it is weird and interesting. Maybe even good, but not the adaptation of the book.
Sometimes movie that has nothing to do with original book can be really good, sometimes it is irritating. All in all he does looks films in very different view. The original story is not important to Him... nothing wrong in that... but the ideas that it brings to him.
@@haukionkannel the only thing his idea for a film had in common with the books was the name Dune.
Jodo: You made an awful Dune movie!
Denis: Well, at least I made a Dune movie...
Jodo's Dune did not get made due to funding problem ... not due to any inability as a director or creative vision ... his storyboards are a thing of absolute sensual beauty to behold ... sadly his 14 hour long idea of an epic scared off the investors ...
@@88feji And yet the fact remains that Jodo, unlike Denis, failed to make a Dune movie. Also, the Foss and Geiger images are things of sensual beauty, the Moebius designs are clown art.
@@jerrysstories711 ^ this, all this
"Hello hospital burn ward? Send an ambulance!"
@@88feji if his idea was that good he would have got the funding.
Jodorowsky failed, Villeneuve didn't fail 😉
So? The Lord of the Rings movies were predictable too, and yet they became THE Star Wars for newer generation, they became THE cult movies of the 2000s.
There's great worldbuilding, VFX will be great, there are many popular and well known actors and a visually pleasing director.
Not quite...
I think the more apt Lord of the Rings reference here might be that Jodorowsky's Dune is like Kubrick's Lord of the Rings -- Both projects were so absurd, so ill-conceived, that a part of my mind has a perverse desire to see it. But the majority of my mind, the part responsible for my sanity, is glad it was never made.
Cult movies?
@@deadprivacyyou just love being the turd in the punch bowl.
I didn't think they were great.
Moebius storyboarded the whole film as a comic, they should release the storyboards as a deluxe hardcover.
I have no doubt that when Jodo is getting short on money he'll give his consent and get a hold of Mobeus' estate to get it done. Probably in a few years, before the second Villeneuve Dune movie is out.
Jodorowsky is just mad his 1970’s coke fueled dream never took off
More like LSD.
@@mugwump7049 More like both.
@@Rezinstance Probably, yes, but Jodo is known to be heavily into psychotropic drugs, and his version of Dune sounds like a massive acid trip.
@@mugwump7049 I just made a comment that the D in LSD isn't 'Dune'.
@@Annie1962 Heh! Totally unrelated but if 1962 is your birth year, I must say you don't look your age.
Jodorowsky’s Dune would have been the largest budgeted exploitation film of all time, and not in a good way. In short, garbage.
Other than than to add that, everything you’ve said, I agree with.
EVERYONE ATTACKING THE MOVIE BASED OFF OF THE TRAILER:
TRAILERS ARE ADVERTISEMENTS. REGARDLESS OF THE ACTUAL CONTENT, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO APPEAL TO AS MANY NORMIES AS POSSIBLE NOT US NERDS WHO HAVE READ EVERY DUNE NOVEL AND LISTENED TO EVERY AUDIOBOOK 20 TIMES.
You could have said the same thing without yelling.
@@mugwump7049 I didn't yell, I used all caps. It's on the keyboard that came with my laptop, so I'll use them when I want to.
@@kjones5052 Yes, and all-caps is considered yelling. It also makes you look kinda ridiculous.
@@kjones5052 You sound like a psychopath.
@@mugwump7049 I DO NOT GET WHAT'S WRONG WITH YELLING IT JUST PROVES A POINT
"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" - Rick James
Hahhaha, this deserves a hundred likes!!!
@David Amaya no, people that find this funny are people that have a sense of humor.
This is pretty much all the evidence we need to finally be SURE Jodorowsky hasn't even read the books. Otherwise, he would have learnt some humility, decorum and respect. For Cthulhu's sake, the man still thinks everything even tangentially related to an adaptation of Dune is about HIM. That level of narcissism and egolatry should have put him on a blacklist titled "people you don't want to have attached to your IP". That man is a stain for the Dune saga and he doesn't even know he's a joke. He's not even good either. Literally all of his works as writer-director left me thinking "THAT's the best you could do with this theme!? There are like four or five better films touching the same topics and you had to come up with this mediocre attempt at it!?". I honestly can't fathom how he's allowed to even think of making movies at this point.
Edit: I had messed up the grammar and you mofos didn't tell me. Shame on you.
send me the films that are better
Nah, Jodorowsky read the Dune novels alright. The problem is that Jodorowsky is the kind of guy who looks at another man's works and thinks to himself "I could do that better."
"hellbane" "shame on you"
Right.....
Arcian that’s so frustrating and borderline sad. Imagine the balls it takes to just sit there and talk about how you would’ve done something and then just continue to assume you’re forever associated with that thing you didn’t do. Fuckin delusional.
What an incredibly deeply stupid comment.
"Not read the book" you copy pasted from somebody who only saw the trailer to the documentary and misinterpreted one sound bite. Poor.
Boy, Jodo's comments sure aged well. Villeneuve's Dune is the best movie of the last several years.
it's all subjective but it really felt soulless. It's true that all hollywood movies feel the same. The formula is always the same.
@Jean Sanchez It has the Hollywood feel. All style over substance. It was extremely formulaic. All of this directors work feels the same. Pretty but empty.
@@ramsaybolton9151 Yeah, they really missed an opportunity by not using Marvin Gaye in the soundtrack.
@@OsirisNeits Planetary healing was my favorite song by him.
@@ramsaybolton9151 "extremely formulaic"? Really? You mean in how it followed the book as much as a movie meant to make money could? Yeah, how dare they do that? 🤦🏾♂️