Thank you!!!! Ppl shying away from it are the sweeping it under the rug basically. To ignore that is to do so. It’s important to showcase that scene. It’s vital to his character. And he literally doesn’t have his son without it happening. If they can show sex scenes in “the boys” then they can do a SA animated scene
@channingdavis5541 the boys' show had sexual assault in like the first episode that it handled with tact a respect. There's absolutely no excuse why the invincible show can't do the same thing
It would genuinely be a shame if they cut this, it isn’t just a scene thats shocking for the sake of it, it has lots of after shocks between the guilt mark feels about not fighting her off as much as he thinks he should have, and Marky. However If they do end up cutting it what they might do instead is Mark ends up accepting her advances after Eve broke up with him, but that doesn’t hit nearly as hard as what we got in the comics.
@@elijahknox4421from what I understand (as I haven't read the comics yet myself), this moment traumatizes Mark and causes a lot of pain in him that he must work through. There's a lot of character development that happens following this, and there is even a new character as a result (Mark and Anissa's son). I'm not entirely certain, but that's what I understand so far.
@@imir_ Markus Murphy, son of Mark and Anissa. Like I said, I haven't read that far yet, but multiple sources have mentioned that she ends up having a kid from assaulting Mark.
That’s because graphic content is being pushed more and more in current day media. The Boys was the first to push the envelope, then Marvel and DC hopped on the trend, then came Invincible. The fact that there’s so much “not okay” content in The Boys should show that shows don’t have to give a shit about the softies online that will complain about the scene. However, I know that Invincible doesn’t do nudity, while The Boys does. Their restraint on that may be the biggest if not the only reason this scene doesn’t get incorporated into the show in the same way. Nonetheless, I feel they should have a little more backbone like the creators of The Boys do. I also think this difference is why most people like Invincible over The Boys. You have to be somewhat content with the lengths The Boys goes to, which a lot of people aren’t. While Invincible doesn’t go to those lengths, I believe they should and weed out the weak.
@@erickck240that kind of moderation should be on the parents though, you can't hold a complete stranger accountable for something your kids do It would make sense if ratings weren't a thing, but they are You people will disregard 18+ warnings and then whine anout gore, hows that fair
Well in the comics that scene has huge ramifications later on for Mark and for his relationship with Eve (for some time at least), so even from just that standpoint they should include it. Once you consider all the external factors (social ones and so on), it should be included imo, although some changes here and there to it could also be a good thing (make it less graphic)
Not to mention that that scene also leads to ramifications with his son and Marky feeling like he's not a wanted child as a child of assault. For one it's a major plot point and two it would also give a televised way of saying that regardless of a child's reasons for coming into the world does not give excuse to degrade them as an individual or hate them for things out of their control
Amazon boys is 100% less graphic than the comics And sixtillion times less anticapitalism. Like , butcher is really fighting homelander in the show not vought. Wich is weird. Cuz homelander is essentially a child with a big iron man suit for a body. While vought is the the fabric of iron man suits
We need it for one very important reason. It shows a very real and accurate portrayal of a Male victim of Sexual Assault. The fact that the perpetrator is a Woman makes it even more important. It's a portrayal that isn't played for laughs or brushed off as Oh I Bet He Liked It. Men have never been portrayed as actual victims when it comes to this subject and that needs to change NOW and Invincible will be the one to do it. If it was AtomEve who got Assaulted there would be no debate about if they'd show it and that's extremely telling of our society.
@@AnimeZone247many many times. Just look at how people react to teachers having sex with students. People are saying “oh he’s a player” or “I wish it was me” to a 13 year old boy being raped by a 40 year old woman
@@AnimeZone247 I’m talking about in cinema too. Prison rape is played off as a joke a lot and sitcoms make fun of it but look at Liar Liar. Jim Carrey, the main character, is basically told by his female boss that he’ll be fired if they don’t do it, this is a form of sexual assault- rape. It’s one of those things in media where they don’t base entire episodes or skits about it- it’s just a minor joke in passing you forget about later.
If the boys can have crazy shit in it. Invincible should be no exception. That “moment” is a pretty big part of both marks and anissas development as characters and depicts a real problem from a side that many people don’t see it from. There are some people that genuinely believe that SA/R doesn’t happen to males at all. That scene (if allowed in the show) WILL prove them wrong.
Well even that scene was heavily chopped down compared to what happened in the comics. And that was “just” a forced blowjob. I think most can agree that what happened w/ Anissa and Mark is a whole different animal.
All they need to do is show mark getting subdued and Anissa dragging him off. Then later they can explain what happened with out showing the deed. It is a minor deviation from the comic but shows like the boys have done deviations like this successfully
I think it's Important to point out that SA isn't about gender but about Power. Men get SAed by both Men & Women. As a childhood survive of SA (I was 7 she was 16) I think it's important to expose male SA. I think it will resonate with alot of men. As I got older and had the courage to tell my story. I was shocked at how many men could relate. Like a 3rd of the men I have talked to or opened up to have had similar stories to me. I have been in multiple different groups from all over the country.
American audiences are weird about sex and nudity while not caring much about violence. It's the other way around here in Europe for the most part, funnily enough.
@@TheBeyspieler yeah I’ve realized that. I’m American and it’s super taboo for anything to be nudity or sex related. Like, when I look at age ratings for movies containing nudity, most European countries have a far younger rating which is interesting. Differences in culture I guess haha
Its ironic ppl in this comment say the american or US they taboo on sex and nudity while they are the king of that kind of thing, like in my 2nd rate country, if a person havent been married and have sex, they literally get punish and can even go to jail while in the america or US, its puberty, unlucky, normal thing, L, well I guess the taboo is in the rape, but most of country is the same about that, and killing, torturing, ane any fu up shi, ppl always cringe or cant stomach the thing they dont see often, like its normal, i mean rape is lesser to be seen in media than killing/torturing, but both NEED TO BE EQUALLY THE SAME.
@Kali-bs7oj definitely. Here in Germany nudity and sex is much more normalized: prostitution is legal, in certain districts you can depict nudity in shop windows or posters in public, there's a larger number of nudist beaches and such, being nude in the sauna is normal, etc. etc. 'Tis a cultural difference for sure.
Speaking as a male SA survivor. When I first read that chapter long ago, I cried tears of pure catharsis. It was the first time I ever felt truly 'seen' by a piece of media. That a work of fiction actually acknowledged and validated my experience for what it was. For that reason alone, it should be included. But it is also critically important to the characters and story going forward.
As a female sa survivor, I know what it's like to see media validate something about your trauma for the first time. Comments like yours are why these stories are important and my heart genuinely goes out to you for putting up with such a societal lack of representation, validation, or even people simply treating you like you exist. This comic opened my eyes to this issue and I hope it does to others.
@finchcarvingadiamond You know the worst part? Worse than people not believing you is hearing other guys say, "You're so lucky." Or "I wish that happened to me." Every time I would hear things to that effect, the memory would hit me like a punch to the face. Thank you so much for your kind words. They are genuinely appreciated, and I wish you happiness and healing.
I just now accidentally noticed that team that made the show, they gave to Anissi "jiggling" animations mid fight (right after Mark tried to kick Anissa by surprise)
If she does i really hope they don't give her a happy ending or "redemption" I haven't read the comics in god knows how long so I may have perhaps forgot that she did in fact not have a happy ending
dude they gave nolan a redemption arc im just saying genocide is a bigger crime than rape (im not at all saying that anissa wouldnt commit genocide too 😂 )
It’ll be included, but likely not in the same graphic way as the comics. They have a lot of options: jump cut as it’s about to happen, show the audio but not visuals of what’s happening, etc etc. It will most certainly be part of the story though.
The best they would probably do is start the scene with her ripping of his clothes then hers and as she starts, fades to black. After, all we see is her flying away thanking him
I think it will (hopefully) just be implied and I would assume thats a solid inbetween and also prevents weirdos from being happy its being added. I personally would prefer if it wasnt shown directly.
@@LobsterCameramanProductions whether you hated her or not, she still had a redemption arc when thragg came back with his army of thraxan babies. When her and atom eve bonded and she was forgiven by eve and mark.
I am an individual who has experienced this and I hope they do keep it in the show. I have a personal difficulties with intimacy that still affect me to this day. For those who can't understand just HOW this can happen to someone and for me it was by my wife at the time, understand that power dynamics are independent of one's sex. It doesn't happen strictly physically. There is nothing in my life that was like having that particular choice taken away from me. I've come a long way though and I have my son as a result. I love him very much and am thankful for his existence. It is unfortunate that many people can't understand that this is a real issue or use their heads to understand that very real threats of consequences can happen without violence that take a person's choice away. Stay safe everybody.
I also think that people are forgetting that in the comics, after Omni-man learns about what happened, he told Mark that that was the custom on Viltrum and that mates forced themselves unto each other. I’m sure there were plenty of Viltrumites who did this, maybe even Lucan, Kregg and Thula. Most likely they didn’t have children on Viltrum but if they did they may have died from the scourge virus. Anissa did say she had multiple husbands. The only reason they didn’t force themselves unto humans was because Thragg specifically ordered them to blend in and act human so that they wouldn’t draw the attention of the coalition of planets. Anissa was wrong but it was her custom. This only made her redemption that much better.
They’ve seen shit like baby reindeer absolutely pop off: they’ll be begging to cash in on some of that dark-edgey fringe kinda stuff when it comes around.
I can understand if they don't show it - to not end up causing a controversy like Goblin Slayer but I don't agree. I think they hope the series gets discontinued before that point, what they're doing a great job for by having us wait an eternity for a few episodes at a time.
Its very key to the story. Its a big character moment for both of them and it leads to a new character coming in later. Make it a consensual relationship and it changes a lot of stuff.
It’s not just about what she did. The reason it happens is that Anissa has marky, which is the heir to the throne of the viltrum empire. If they don’t include the scene, it fucks up a lot of things in the story, and it also shows very well the emotional burden it took on invincible.
If they really want to cut it and not even imply it happened off-screen, what they might do is have Anissa seduce Mark and Mark gives in. It would still result in a child, could result in Mark being "weird" around Anissa while she keeps flirting with him, and could still affect Mark and his relationship with Eve (though in a different and probably more acceptable way according to them, cheating man vs male SA victim, which narrative do you think the producers will prefer.) I would hate this by the way but they aren't exactly afraid of changing things. After the Amber changes, I know what I expect.
@@Johanjannesmy guy they are showing her killing people why wouldn't they show her having sex with mark? Is sex more concerning than death itself stop being stupid
Im guessing what they'll do is run the scene as spotty visuals blinking in-and-out with audio playing during the blackouts, and we'll probably just hear crashing, screaming, and echoing voices, which is probably not far off from what the memory of SA looks like.
I don’t think it would be impossible to include the scene in a way that doesn’t glorify or sexualize what happens, but I also have doubt that the show would take the risk of it ending up that way.
Because most people can personally relate to rape more than death. We have glorified death to a large extent to the point where it's normal, whilst rape is uniquely evil.
@@jahinsadman1505 Rape is always a taboo, murder is not. Murder is fine under specific circumstances like self defense and war, and is perpetuated in media regardless of whether or not it's seen as being okay. Rape on the other hand is simply untouched and rightfully so as it's always a predatory action.
Even if it’s not shown in full, it really should be put in the show in some form. even if it’s just like, Mark’s uniform being torn off, or Anissa telling him “Man up, it’ll probably take a few tries.” I think the subtlety is best.
Okay but the scene is so important. Its one of the only tasteful depictions of male victim SA out there in media. Its handled with care and treated as horrific and life changing. Its important to have examples of men, powerful men especially being victims too. The comic helped me process my own assault, I am a AMAB non binary individual and I needed this kind of narrative to help not feel alone it is super important to people. On top of that the ripples from the scene have massive import to the characters and plot. It makes waves in the lives of Mark Eve and Nolans characters and its also how Marky comes to be as a character who is a character that through removing diminishs Marks late game characterization. You simply cant remove the scene without harming the show and its value.
I don't know what the thing is. But knowing how modern writers write their shows, and how modern audiences can't handle the most simple of bad things anymore. My guess is that the thing will be cut out.
Amazon wouldn’t opposed to the show going that dark since The Boys went that dark in season 1. The way they’re probably gonna do it is have Mark and Anissa’s fight start at the end of an episode with it leaving off on a cliffhanger, and then the next episode you see the aftermath of what’s happened to Mark. You don’t see it, but what’s implied without words still leaves you speechless.
I actually had to look up what you were referring to. Hazbin Hotel (also on Amazon) had an episode that dove into the subject manner in question. So if the producers of Invincible decide to not have the scene happen it'll probably be because "it isn't relevant to the story" and not because "Amazon won't allow the subject manner".
It WILL happen in the show, it is such an immensely important moment for the story, especially for the end part of the series, but it’s a proper way to show that SA (especially against men) must be taken seriously, that it’s not a joke, as that men are victims as well.
They cant cut that scene completely. That would remove marks son, a major character arc of mark coming to terms of what happened to him and accepting his son and her redemption and growth if her character before she died. They'll probably greatly censor the scene, but if they completly cut the scene it would greatly affect the story.
They better do it. In nearly 30 years of reading comics they're only ever been two stories or two parts of stories that ever made me cry both of them were in Invincible.
It's likely they will follow up the source material, but they're going to make some changes onto one of the scenes since like season 2 episode 4. They did make changes to Mark's reaction than just being happy since it was out of character. But I like the scene from the show where he is tired of his father. What he has done, but from that one I'm pretty sure the fans Will definitely want to see the scene where Anissa will pay consequences since she just get away with it
I don’t see how you can cut it out of the show. The lasting ramifications from “that” scene is really important for the rest of Mark’s character. There’s more than a few plot points that it affects. Especially with Mark, Eve, and Mark’s Dad.
I personally think it needs to be adapted. It's something we need a serious discussion about. Men getting SA'd is either ignored at best or played for laughs at worst. We absolutely need an exploration of how it affects the victim and his closest relatives.
I wanna say look at it like this. Off screen it but imply it happened if you need to but it's actually really important that that scene happens in cannon for the show even if it isn't shown. Cause it gives you moments that happen for his development and other characters. Trust me as messed up as it is. It has to happen
It’s gotta be in the show, whether we get the same thing as the comics is unknown but we will definitely get a scene which shows him not wanting it before cutting away
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Look at The Boys and tell me that Amazon wouldn't put that in the show.
Herogasm lmao
@@TheGreatestJediOfAllTimethe Deep and Starlight
herogasm rl
😂😂😂😂
you clearly have not read the dogshit that is the comics
Personally i think it's not only to important for the story to not be included but also necessary to show mens sexual assault isn't a joke
Thank you!!!! Ppl shying away from it are the sweeping it under the rug basically. To ignore that is to do so.
It’s important to showcase that scene. It’s vital to his character. And he literally doesn’t have his son without it happening. If they can show sex scenes in “the boys” then they can do a SA animated scene
@channingdavis5541 the boys' show had sexual assault in like the first episode that it handled with tact a respect. There's absolutely no excuse why the invincible show can't do the same thing
They're still not gonna do it.
@@dinodare1605 you literally don’t know that lol
@@chrisblaz263 exactly why they have no excuse!!!
It would genuinely be a shame if they cut this, it isn’t just a scene thats shocking for the sake of it, it has lots of after shocks between the guilt mark feels about not fighting her off as much as he thinks he should have, and Marky. However If they do end up cutting it what they might do instead is Mark ends up accepting her advances after Eve broke up with him, but that doesn’t hit nearly as hard as what we got in the comics.
This.
If they change it, it would just make me think that they don’t take male SA seriously. I seriously hope that they don’t change it.
@@VanOfSaltYou do realize most women would look at that scene with content and not with remorse or anything right?
True that’s actually what I expected to happen, so I was hella shocked
@@hriscubogdan2292what women do you know
Even if some people are weird about it, it IS an important point in the story.
Can someone explain 😅 ? Does she r-p Mark in the comic ? Is that what I understood ?
How is it important to the story? Genuine question, idk the story
@@elijahknox4421from what I understand (as I haven't read the comics yet myself), this moment traumatizes Mark and causes a lot of pain in him that he must work through. There's a lot of character development that happens following this, and there is even a new character as a result (Mark and Anissa's son). I'm not entirely certain, but that's what I understand so far.
@@Stormer13 No way they have a child wtf
@@imir_ Markus Murphy, son of Mark and Anissa. Like I said, I haven't read that far yet, but multiple sources have mentioned that she ends up having a kid from assaulting Mark.
With the amount of insanely graphic deaths in the show its funny that we would draw the line here.
We're such a weird society 😂
Ikr lol like we've seen literal children be slaughtered in season 1 during the last Ep.
That’s because graphic content is being pushed more and more in current day media. The Boys was the first to push the envelope, then Marvel and DC hopped on the trend, then came Invincible. The fact that there’s so much “not okay” content in The Boys should show that shows don’t have to give a shit about the softies online that will complain about the scene. However, I know that Invincible doesn’t do nudity, while The Boys does. Their restraint on that may be the biggest if not the only reason this scene doesn’t get incorporated into the show in the same way. Nonetheless, I feel they should have a little more backbone like the creators of The Boys do. I also think this difference is why most people like Invincible over The Boys. You have to be somewhat content with the lengths The Boys goes to, which a lot of people aren’t. While Invincible doesn’t go to those lengths, I believe they should and weed out the weak.
Yeah cuz 13 year olds definitely should be allowed to see brutal murder but not even be able to mention this 💀
@@erickck240that kind of moderation should be on the parents though, you can't hold a complete stranger accountable for something your kids do
It would make sense if ratings weren't a thing, but they are
You people will disregard 18+ warnings and then whine anout gore, hows that fair
I like how they can't show anything sexual directly, but the extreme gore is fine
Right? Always found it weird that we are so desensitized to violence and let our children watch it, but woah can’t have little Jimmy see a titty!
The ways of the west is paradoxical.
Well in the comics that scene has huge ramifications later on for Mark and for his relationship with Eve (for some time at least), so even from just that standpoint they should include it. Once you consider all the external factors (social ones and so on), it should be included imo, although some changes here and there to it could also be a good thing (make it less graphic)
Best option I've seen is make it obvious what happened but don't show it
I NEED TO SEE IT
Yeah. Mark literally gets a son from Anissa. So, that would be a huge plot point
@@deCrayonn you seem too eager
Not to mention that that scene also leads to ramifications with his son and Marky feeling like he's not a wanted child as a child of assault.
For one it's a major plot point and two it would also give a televised way of saying that regardless of a child's reasons for coming into the world does not give excuse to degrade them as an individual or hate them for things out of their control
>Amazon wouldn’t include it
>The boys literally exists
I mean the boys was like that from the start invincible has not been close to what happens in the boys.
Amazon boys is 100% less graphic than the comics
And sixtillion times less anticapitalism.
Like , butcher is really fighting homelander in the show not vought.
Wich is weird. Cuz homelander is essentially a child with a big iron man suit for a body.
While vought is the the fabric of iron man suits
We need it for one very important reason. It shows a very real and accurate portrayal of a Male victim of Sexual Assault. The fact that the perpetrator is a Woman makes it even more important. It's a portrayal that isn't played for laughs or brushed off as Oh I Bet He Liked It. Men have never been portrayed as actual victims when it comes to this subject and that needs to change NOW and Invincible will be the one to do it. If it was AtomEve who got Assaulted there would be no debate about if they'd show it and that's extremely telling of our society.
Has there been an instance where they played something like this off as a joke?
@@AnimeZone247many many times. Just look at how people react to teachers having sex with students. People are saying “oh he’s a player” or “I wish it was me” to a 13 year old boy being raped by a 40 year old woman
@@AnimeZone247Both IRL and in fiction, yes. Can’t think of any specific examples off my head though.
@@TheLegendaryMemeKing I’m not talking about in real life, I’m talking about in media, like shows, movies, etc
@@AnimeZone247 I’m talking about in cinema too. Prison rape is played off as a joke a lot and sitcoms make fun of it but look at Liar Liar. Jim Carrey, the main character, is basically told by his female boss that he’ll be fired if they don’t do it, this is a form of sexual assault- rape. It’s one of those things in media where they don’t base entire episodes or skits about it- it’s just a minor joke in passing you forget about later.
If the boys can have crazy shit in it. Invincible should be no exception.
That “moment” is a pretty big part of both marks and anissas development as characters and depicts a real problem from a side that many people don’t see it from.
There are some people that genuinely believe that SA/R doesn’t happen to males at all. That scene (if allowed in the show) WILL prove them wrong.
Way too little people think about that. It's important to talk about sa, even if it's uncomfortable
Does the boys have anything other than violence and drug use that's objectionable?
The fact she’s voiced by Becca from the boys is complete irony
Wait fr? Shes actually voiced by her
“It Is not likley that it will happen in the show”
The boys:
Hazbin hotel:
"Something that graphic would never be in a show"
Starlight: Am I a joke to you?!
Well even that scene was heavily chopped down compared to what happened in the comics. And that was “just” a forced blowjob. I think most can agree that what happened w/ Anissa and Mark is a whole different animal.
Anissa be wanting to party and you can't tell her "No" 😂
All they need to do is show mark getting subdued and Anissa dragging him off. Then later they can explain what happened with out showing the deed. It is a minor deviation from the comic but shows like the boys have done deviations like this successfully
Nah im tryna see some Anissa r34 💅 /J
@@jaketorres2388boy amazon ain't doing that. Just search
Hell they could even show shadows if they don't want to show the actual act
@@jaketorres2388creep
@@jaketorres2388 big budget r34 come on, any company, please! :)
I think it's Important to point out that SA isn't about gender but about Power. Men get SAed by both Men & Women. As a childhood survive of SA (I was 7 she was 16) I think it's important to expose male SA. I think it will resonate with alot of men. As I got older and had the courage to tell my story. I was shocked at how many men could relate. Like a 3rd of the men I have talked to or opened up to have had similar stories to me. I have been in multiple different groups from all over the country.
Jesus she was more than twice your age. I’m sorry you had to go through that man.
I agree completely. Anyone who says this shouldn't be shown in the series thinks people like you don't exist.
It’s wild that the level of gore in Invincible is allowed but it’s questionable whether a rape scene would be allowed.
American audiences are weird about sex and nudity while not caring much about violence. It's the other way around here in Europe for the most part, funnily enough.
@@TheBeyspieler yeah I’ve realized that. I’m American and it’s super taboo for anything to be nudity or sex related. Like, when I look at age ratings for movies containing nudity, most European countries have a far younger rating which is interesting. Differences in culture I guess haha
Its ironic ppl in this comment say the american or US they taboo on sex and nudity while they are the king of that kind of thing, like in my 2nd rate country, if a person havent been married and have sex, they literally get punish and can even go to jail while in the america or US, its puberty, unlucky, normal thing, L, well I guess the taboo is in the rape, but most of country is the same about that, and killing, torturing, ane any fu up shi, ppl always cringe or cant stomach the thing they dont see often, like its normal, i mean rape is lesser to be seen in media than killing/torturing, but both NEED TO BE EQUALLY THE SAME.
@@TheBeyspieler very weird to not want to draw a rape scene. pfff prudish Americans. In Europe you definitely see this shit all the time.
@Kali-bs7oj definitely. Here in Germany nudity and sex is much more normalized: prostitution is legal, in certain districts you can depict nudity in shop windows or posters in public, there's a larger number of nudist beaches and such, being nude in the sauna is normal, etc. etc. 'Tis a cultural difference for sure.
Speaking as a male SA survivor. When I first read that chapter long ago, I cried tears of pure catharsis. It was the first time I ever felt truly 'seen' by a piece of media. That a work of fiction actually acknowledged and validated my experience for what it was.
For that reason alone, it should be included. But it is also critically important to the characters and story going forward.
Same here. I can relate to Mark and realizing that I’m not the only one makes it a bit more comfortable for me to exist
As a female sa survivor, I know what it's like to see media validate something about your trauma for the first time. Comments like yours are why these stories are important and my heart genuinely goes out to you for putting up with such a societal lack of representation, validation, or even people simply treating you like you exist. This comic opened my eyes to this issue and I hope it does to others.
@finchcarvingadiamond You know the worst part? Worse than people not believing you is hearing other guys say, "You're so lucky." Or "I wish that happened to me."
Every time I would hear things to that effect, the memory would hit me like a punch to the face.
Thank you so much for your kind words. They are genuinely appreciated, and I wish you happiness and healing.
Lol. Wut?
Hope you guys are all Better now❤
It would be strange if mark jr just appears out of nowhere
I just now accidentally noticed that team that made the show, they gave to Anissi "jiggling" animations mid fight (right after Mark tried to kick Anissa by surprise)
The Boys graphic scenes: Look what they need to mimic a feaction of our power.
Bro that JIGGLE when mark punched anissa.
If she does i really hope they don't give her a happy ending or "redemption"
I haven't read the comics in god knows how long so I may have perhaps forgot that she did in fact not have a happy ending
Happy ending haha lol
Well, she did will get quite a good life and Redemption in the story. But yes, she will die after it, in Thragg rebellion war.
dude they gave nolan a redemption arc
im just saying genocide is a bigger crime than rape
(im not at all saying that anissa wouldnt commit genocide too 😂 )
@namishjain9238 and Nolan doesn't really deserve redemption either, to be honest
@@TheRealDurge absolutely agree
It’ll be included, but likely not in the same graphic way as the comics. They have a lot of options: jump cut as it’s about to happen, show the audio but not visuals of what’s happening, etc etc. It will most certainly be part of the story though.
Her doing the thing is the single spoiler I know from the comics, but I’ve only seen the aftermath
That would so awkward having to watch the booth voice acting for that scene
If they were able to put that violent ass crushing death of the shrinking ray, this will be a piece of cake
No one thought The Boy would do Herogasim, but here we are, all mentally scarred
The boys had Herogasm… I think they will do the scene
They can’t cut it out entirely because that would just create plot holes
Knowing the writers for invincible, whatever they do will be good
The best they would probably do is start the scene with her ripping of his clothes then hers and as she starts, fades to black. After, all we see is her flying away thanking him
They didn't show us The Deep doing THE THING to Starlight, but they did heavily implied it.
I think it will (hopefully) just be implied and I would assume thats a solid inbetween and also prevents weirdos from being happy its being added. I personally would prefer if it wasnt shown directly.
If it doesn’t happen that mark jr isn’t born. It’s important that we get marky + the Anissa redemption arc.
Anissa never really had a redemption arc because I hated her until she died lol
@@LobsterCameramanProductions whether you hated her or not, she still had a redemption arc when thragg came back with his army of thraxan babies. When her and atom eve bonded and she was forgiven by eve and mark.
@@swampofsouls6071simp harder
I am an individual who has experienced this and I hope they do keep it in the show. I have a personal difficulties with intimacy that still affect me to this day. For those who can't understand just HOW this can happen to someone and for me it was by my wife at the time, understand that power dynamics are independent of one's sex. It doesn't happen strictly physically. There is nothing in my life that was like having that particular choice taken away from me. I've come a long way though and I have my son as a result. I love him very much and am thankful for his existence. It is unfortunate that many people can't understand that this is a real issue or use their heads to understand that very real threats of consequences can happen without violence that take a person's choice away. Stay safe everybody.
It needs to be added, as it shows mens SA is a real thing and just as serious as Womens SA, it's also an important part of the story.
i've been an invincible fan for a while now and have read all the comics, seeing it become a show was insane, seeing anissa was even crazier
I also think that people are forgetting that in the comics, after Omni-man learns about what happened, he told Mark that that was the custom on Viltrum and that mates forced themselves unto each other. I’m sure there were plenty of Viltrumites who did this, maybe even Lucan, Kregg and Thula. Most likely they didn’t have children on Viltrum but if they did they may have died from the scourge virus. Anissa did say she had multiple husbands. The only reason they didn’t force themselves unto humans was because Thragg specifically ordered them to blend in and act human so that they wouldn’t draw the attention of the coalition of planets. Anissa was wrong but it was her custom. This only made her redemption that much better.
The other thing that made her redemption good was that she wasn't forgiven by Mark or Eve with them at best being relucant allies.
They’ve seen shit like baby reindeer absolutely pop off: they’ll be begging to cash in on some of that dark-edgey fringe kinda stuff when it comes around.
I can understand if they don't show it - to not end up causing a controversy like Goblin Slayer but I don't agree. I think they hope the series gets discontinued before that point, what they're doing a great job for by having us wait an eternity for a few episodes at a time.
“They’re not gonna put a vital moment in the show”
For the love of god… I am NOT terminally online, WHAT’S “THE THING”?!?!?
Anissa r**** mark cause she doesn’t want to have a child with a human but still wants human aspects in her child
She r8pes him in the comics
@@madhanezhilan3905OMG U THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT U GUYS WERE TALKING ABT
Seriously.... I NEED to know!!
@@madhanezhilan3905 jeez…
Its very key to the story. Its a big character moment for both of them and it leads to a new character coming in later. Make it a consensual relationship and it changes a lot of stuff.
It’s not just about what she did. The reason it happens is that Anissa has marky, which is the heir to the throne of the viltrum empire. If they don’t include the scene, it fucks up a lot of things in the story, and it also shows very well the emotional burden it took on invincible.
If they really want to cut it and not even imply it happened off-screen, what they might do is have Anissa seduce Mark and Mark gives in. It would still result in a child, could result in Mark being "weird" around Anissa while she keeps flirting with him, and could still affect Mark and his relationship with Eve (though in a different and probably more acceptable way according to them, cheating man vs male SA victim, which narrative do you think the producers will prefer.)
I would hate this by the way but they aren't exactly afraid of changing things. After the Amber changes, I know what I expect.
Whoo. Yeah, baby. That's what I've been waiting for. That's what it's all about. Whoo.
They better put it in the show I want comic book accuracy
No they need to put it out of screen!
@@Johanjannesmy guy they are showing her killing people why wouldn't they show her having sex with mark? Is sex more concerning than death itself stop being stupid
Either way i am sticking with accuracy it's the whole point why marky exist
Im guessing what they'll do is run the scene as spotty visuals blinking in-and-out with audio playing during the blackouts, and we'll probably just hear crashing, screaming, and echoing voices, which is probably not far off from what the memory of SA looks like.
I don’t think it would be impossible to include the scene in a way that doesn’t glorify or sexualize what happens, but I also have doubt that the show would take the risk of it ending up that way.
She's fucking invincible!
"There is one thing the character is very much known for doing"
Yeah, that thing in question being Mark.
That moment needs to happen because we need to have Marky born, without there isn’t InvicBoy
Killing abuse: no one panics.
Sex abuse: everyone loses their minds...!!!!
Hate human hypocrisy
But animal hypocrisy is fine? 😂
Because most people can personally relate to rape more than death. We have glorified death to a large extent to the point where it's normal, whilst rape is uniquely evil.
@@someperson9998 most people wat
@@jahinsadman1505 Rape is always a taboo, murder is not. Murder is fine under specific circumstances like self defense and war, and is perpetuated in media regardless of whether or not it's seen as being okay. Rape on the other hand is simply untouched and rightfully so as it's always a predatory action.
@@someperson9998 Death is inevitable, the other isn't.
Even if it’s not shown in full, it really should be put in the show in some form. even if it’s just like, Mark’s uniform being torn off, or Anissa telling him “Man up, it’ll probably take a few tries.” I think the subtlety is best.
Okay but the scene is so important. Its one of the only tasteful depictions of male victim SA out there in media. Its handled with care and treated as horrific and life changing. Its important to have examples of men, powerful men especially being victims too. The comic helped me process my own assault, I am a AMAB non binary individual and I needed this kind of narrative to help not feel alone it is super important to people. On top of that the ripples from the scene have massive import to the characters and plot. It makes waves in the lives of Mark Eve and Nolans characters and its also how Marky comes to be as a character who is a character that through removing diminishs Marks late game characterization. You simply cant remove the scene without harming the show and its value.
Me: Oh no, please stop…..
Anissa: Why are you thrusting back? Did you just slap my azz?
I immediately think of the boys, amazon would totally green light this scene
Lots of videos talking about that scene, mostly creepy weirdos become obsessed with it, gross.
And specially down bad with Anissa, like how f up these people are in their head?
Grape soda... mark really hates grape soda....
WHAT IS THE SCENE!?!?!
Anissa SA mark in the comic book sadly
The only hint I'll give that basically gives it away:
Mark did not consent
@@jameshawhite1723 “SA?”
@@KJ-Hits San Andreas
@@KJ-Hitsrape. Idk why so many people can’t say a fucking word
I think the real question is how they will go about Eve getting an abortion
I don't know what the thing is. But knowing how modern writers write their shows, and how modern audiences can't handle the most simple of bad things anymore. My guess is that the thing will be cut out.
She forces herself on him to try and get pregnant with his child
@__Theta__ Voiced by Becca Butcher from The Boys who has a similar arc. Ironically enough
Theres nothing modern about it. If you go back 20 years they arent going to be any more likely to animate that... They may even be less so.
Amazon wouldn’t opposed to the show going that dark since The Boys went that dark in season 1.
The way they’re probably gonna do it is have Mark and Anissa’s fight start at the end of an episode with it leaving off on a cliffhanger, and then the next episode you see the aftermath of what’s happened to Mark. You don’t see it, but what’s implied without words still leaves you speechless.
I actually had to look up what you were referring to. Hazbin Hotel (also on Amazon) had an episode that dove into the subject manner in question. So if the producers of Invincible decide to not have the scene happen it'll probably be because "it isn't relevant to the story" and not because "Amazon won't allow the subject manner".
damn guess I'm terminally online
I just finished that issue and it left me mortified and disturbed.
It WILL happen in the show, it is such an immensely important moment for the story, especially for the end part of the series, but it’s a proper way to show that SA (especially against men) must be taken seriously, that it’s not a joke, as that men are victims as well.
I feel like they'd need to include it. It's incredibly important in the comics and gives Mark one of his children.
If chainsaw man does the throw up kiss they can do the nomnomnom
Mark holds back a lot because he doesn't want to kill people but they nearly kill him all the time until he took out Angstrom
I would say, they would leave it to a offscreen situation since it makes more sense that way.
They cant cut that scene completely. That would remove marks son, a major character arc of mark coming to terms of what happened to him and accepting his son and her redemption and growth if her character before she died. They'll probably greatly censor the scene, but if they completly cut the scene it would greatly affect the story.
The only thing I hope they leave out is her half baked redemption arc where it doesn’t even feel like she’s sorry about it
You're damn right people are way too happy to see that scene. I've literally seen people begging to see that scene, and that worries me.
" those who like it (the scene) way too much"😂😂😂
I wouldn’t say I’m “waiting” for it.
They better do it.
In nearly 30 years of reading comics they're only ever been two stories or two parts of stories that ever made me cry both of them were in Invincible.
“I say let it grow”
Rule 34 artists:
The fact that lots of people are disturbed by the incident tells us it needs to be included.
So you're saying that killing people didn't make people disturbed? But a rape scene did? Is death less significant than rape?
It should have been me 💀
We not gonna talk about how mark is getting folded by a girl lol
They made Anissa and Thula look SOOOO much older in the animated show than they look in the comics
I think it would be an Amazing storyline and resonant with not just fans - they should do it
DO IT DO IT DO IT 😂👏👏👏
It's likely they will follow up the source material, but they're going to make some changes onto one of the scenes since like season 2 episode 4. They did make changes to Mark's reaction than just being happy since it was out of character. But I like the scene from the show where he is tired of his father. What he has done, but from that one I'm pretty sure the fans Will definitely want to see the scene where Anissa will pay consequences since she just get away with it
I think Amazon won’t care in terms of how graphic it is as they also have the boys which is way worse. They’ll add it in but depends on their vision
I don’t see how you can cut it out of the show. The lasting ramifications from “that” scene is really important for the rest of Mark’s character. There’s more than a few plot points that it affects. Especially with Mark, Eve, and Mark’s Dad.
I personally think it needs to be adapted. It's something we need a serious discussion about. Men getting SA'd is either ignored at best or played for laughs at worst. We absolutely need an exploration of how it affects the victim and his closest relatives.
It's like watching SAW, but censored for PBS Kids.
I wanna say look at it like this. Off screen it but imply it happened if you need to but it's actually really important that that scene happens in cannon for the show even if it isn't shown. Cause it gives you moments that happen for his development and other characters. Trust me as messed up as it is. It has to happen
I’d be something to behold
**Looks at the boys, Herogasm**
Hm... I have a suspicious feeling that it will be added. Maybe somewhat different but added no less.
IMO the best song on the album
This and the boys are by far the best comics I ever ran across. More realistic to life.
That seen would be internet breaking thats for sure
Thank you for making a video about a thing that she did and not saying what it is while I was waiting for the moment the whole time...
She made him clap her cheeks 😅😅
Hazbin hotel casually having rape and abuse:
It’s gotta be in the show, whether we get the same thing as the comics is unknown but we will definitely get a scene which shows him not wanting it before cutting away