The Dangers of Transitioning | Trans Guy Responds
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Responding to the most ridiculous list of things testosterone does and doesn't do for trans people
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I’ve been needing something to send my mom about transmasc stuff that DOESN’T feed into the misinformation being spread around. 🙏🏽💚
@@S-yj2eh nice rage bait
I hope it goes well for you
Then you're in the right place :) Some other trans guys here on YT I can recommend for a potential mom-friendly playlist are Swolesome and Ty Turner. I mean, there are many other great transmasc creators out there, but these two came to mind first as safe to show to a potentially conservative/uninformed parent.
The danger is I'll become a goddess or something i don't know i havent transitioned yet
Real
If you're trans, you already are, you just have to figure out how to express yourself.
I'm already a god. I'm agender, asexual and aromantic.
I do not care for your mortal desires, I do not care for your mortal definitions of gender. I am free from all earthly shackles, haha! (Don't take this seriously, I like to joke around)
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@@borealernadelwald ur still vulnerable to the diseases though😅
"testosterone will cause crushed larynx"
as a biological male, i was unaware my throat is absolutely fucked.
do these people actually sit down and think to them selves "yes it will absolutely maim your throat."
No no no, see, the crushing is why your voice drops at puberty! Back when the church used to castrate its best boy sopranos, it was common to see larynxes that had been allowed to expand naturally without testosterone, and they were often so large that they had to be supported by a special brace. (This is 100% factual and in no way something I pulled out of my ass while waiting for the pots to soak, lol.)
I think I intimidated my grandmother accidentally by developing a near-resonating bass voice and also the ability to mimic the voice of the narrator in The Stanley Parable after being told my voice was too high in highschool- I don't understand the misinformation stuff that keeps being put online, so much of it doesn't make any sense lol
As a cis man taking T (gender affirming care! YAY!) I can confirm. No crushed larynx.
Also it helps a bit with my depression.
That said, it has not made me immune from threats of violence from other cis men, which, unfortunately, even cis men face.
The whole "safer" thing has so many facets. The largest group of people who are victimized by cis male violence? _Other_ cis men!
I have rarely heard of these threats from men to other men except for situations in bars or with people abusing substance... oh and maybe toxic teenagers. I'm interested to know about it if you're willing to tell.
(If not that's fine)
@@Stick_and_stone Wow, that's interesting. Personally, I've had cis men lose their shit at me for 'offenses' as minor as crossing a public parking lot or walking out of my own back gate.
Some 'men' have no fucking skin, it's pathetic.
Let people live their lives, damnit!
@@SPierre-dm4wo There really do be times when looking another man in the eye is a little too far for some blokes.
i LOVE how pretty much all the things people say are "horrible irreversible changes on testosterone!!!1!1!" are just "it makes your body masculine". like yeah no sh*t sherlock, why else do you think i started taking testosterone for??? 💀
"How dare you threaten me with a good time!"
Nooo!!! You can't transition!!! My happiness is dependant on your femininity!!!
“horrible irreversible changes on testosterone” Cheryl i can almost certainly guarantee you already have testosterone in your body
@@Eosinophyllis in fact, it helps people not wanna shove a cement brick up their -ss then puke it up
Like no shit Sherlock, a lot of these girls who take testosterone change their mind after a few years and don't want these changes anymore but they are stuck with lower voice and excessive body and facial hair so they feel they can't go back now.
Not to mention, it's extremely unhealthy for theirs body.
My dad loves to tell me that when “women” take testosterone your estrogen levels go up and in 20 years all the “idiots” are going to “revert” back to their natural bodies
Also one of my friends told me it makes your periods way worse and makes you lose all your hair 😭
Edit: My friend was talking about body hair, not so much hair on your head 😬
I mean we probably will go through male pattern baldness but it'll be just like our cis counterparts which honestly no bad thing in my book lol
@@theaveragecomment1014 facts, but all the guys in my family still have hair (even my grandpas) sooo /j
I think I'd trust somebody who has gone through this and done a lot of research over people consulting with Doctor Twitter.
Trans guy here who was on T for 18 months, stopped for 18 months (complicated reasons) and now back on T for about 8 months.
Testosterone can cause more painful periods until they stop, absolutely can cause more generalized pelvic pain outside of periods, and if you stop testosterone, when/if the periods come back, they can include pretty brutal period cramping.
I've experienced all these things. That said, part of my experience with this is because I did stop T for 1.5 years and then went back on. There is no literature that indicates any negative risks with stopping and starting testosterone (beyond the existing risks of starting HRT). And the pelvic pain I experienced when I started T the second time only lasted about 4 months and was only truly bad for about 6-8 weeks.
If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask. I've kinda simplified some of this stuff.
Does he think there were no trans people before 20 years ago? There are people who started transitioning in the 50s, for God's sake!
As always: dinosaurs are cool, transphobia is not. 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
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Hey, dinosaurs could've been trans coloured, we don't know.
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Trans people: “I’ve gone through puberty twice.”
Marlon Rando on the Internet: “No, I don’t think you have because I alone know how hormones work.”
Its so funny hearing random cis ppl saying that they know more about trans ppl than literal trans people
Cissplaining
“I alone, am the stupid one”
(Sorry, I heard I alone and had to make a stupid reference)
Marlon Rando! Ahahahaha! 😂
To defend a man’s legacy Marlon Brando was woke before woke. If you know if he said anything negative about trans people then please share. But he had homosexual relations with Richard Prior and Marvin Gaye. He was bisexual and also anti racism. He’s also rejected an Oscar on behalf of the Native American community for his role in The Godfather. He’s no longer around to defend himself so or give a contemporary opinion over trans issues so it’s probably not fair to use his name in association to online moronic bigots.
One of the funniest trans moments for me was when my endocrinologist had to go through the "risks." Some were actual risks like cardiovascular aspects and the strain in can put on your liver. But also included was voice change, muscle gain, body hair, fat redistribution, etc. Please, please let me experience these "risks."
They have to tell you of these terrible risks because they can't assume you've done your research and they don't want annoying people to be like "you didn't warn me about ass hair >:("
But yeah, I am sooooo sad about my body hair, lower voice and male belly :)
@@kitkatboard Oh, I have zero issues with them saying it. People should be informed for informed consent. But it's funny that all that is in "risks."
It's like when they tell trans women that breast growth is irreversible. Like, gosh, I sure hope so.
it was kinda fun to be sitting there hearing about all these "risks" with a giant grin on my face!
it's a bit weird that they put desired changes under 'risks' but then again, i got my prescription through a gender clinic where its just second nature to plainly refer to them as changes rather than anything else
As a trans masc person who has yet to transition, this video is very comforting and makes me feel better about my decision to medically transition when I have the resources available
Love this for you! Wish you all the best in getting access (I'm in the US, so I see you).
From my personal experience as a trans man who's been on T for over 5 years now, it's important to listen to your doctors AND to advocate for yourself.
My doctor was very upfront about risks and side effects, so I knew what I was getting into. But I made sure to be clear that I'm also epileptic and was concerned about potential risks in that arena. So my doctor, because there really hasn't been much study into FTM epileptic, suggested a weekly dosing cycle at lower amounts instead of the more common bi-weekly dosing at higher amounts. We also started me at a lower dose just in general and later down the line added an aromatase inhibitor instead of upping the T.
Definitely advocate for yourself when you're able to start medical transition.
good luck for whenever you start your transition! it'll be a very emotional journey but man, it's so worth the wait. i second what the other person said about advocating for yourself too, if i hadn't have kept asking my doctor for updates on my gender clinic waitlist, i never would've known that i aged out of the children's system as soon as i turned 17. checking in with things like that to make sure things are going smoothly is important
I’m in my thirties and I’ve just gotten to a point where I can start T and stay on it (I keep lacking funds/insurance smh) and I hope you get to medically transition sooner rather than later! But it’s okay if it takes longer than you wanted it to be. I’d have transitioned as a teen but that was the 00’s and the 00’s were not safe for trans folk.
I’ve been happier and feeling more alive since I’ve been on T. I hope you feel the same and even better brother!!!
i think my favorite "warning" i got about testosterone was "it makes your clint grow!!!"
like... i sure hope it does???
misspell on purpose
Well-meaning stranger: "look out, T will make your Clint grow!"
Your Clint: 🤠🎉
@@JovanDacic Well-meaning stranger: "look out, T will make your Klimt grow!"
Your Klimt: 🖌🖼
Wall meaning strangers: “Look out, T will make your Klimr grow!”
Your Klimr: 🌱🌴
I like it. Clint, Dick's smaller cousin.
@@ethanharvey What's funny about that is that, yeah. Exactly. Everyone has a point during the fetal stage where genitals aren't fully developed one way or another (this is where the oversimplification of, "everyone starts female," comes from)
And yeah. The Richard (trying to dodge RUclips censorship) is formed from the same bits that make up the Clint, the reproduction canal, and the urinary exit. The reproduction canal joins the urinary exit in the Richard to become a single tube, the Clint has the same sensitivity as the head, and Clint's hood is equivalent to Richard's jacket.
The cell production centers in both systems are equivalent, and the uterus and labia are equivalent to the scrotum.
I think the most aggravating misconception I've ever come across, was being told "I'm afraid that you going on testosterone will make you more angry/violent." Like, completely disregarding my personality and the experiences the person had had with me up to that point, and just assuming that testosterone was going to turn me into a completely different person. It was actually quite insulting. I've been on T for a few years now, and you know what? Sure, maybe I am a little more free with my emotions, but that's honestly not because of testosterone. That's because I have people around me who aren't constantly telling me that any emotional reaction I have is me being "too sensitive" or "overreacting". So like, no, being on T does not automatically make you more aggressive or violent.
One thing I've experienced is that I'm more likely to be _perceived_ as angry, even when I'm not.
I experienced a rather significant voice change. Myself and my son (now 15, 12 when I started testosterone) had to work through that and it took time. As an example, I'd ask him if he'd done his homework, not angry or annoyed, just checking as parents do, and he'd get upset because I _sounded_ angry to him. Not that I was using an angry tone but my masc voice compared to my fem voice sounded much gruffer I guess and he perceived that as annoyance, not just the new voice.
I've had this also with women in my life who knew me pre transition, sister and mom mostly, but not so much with women I've met since transitioning. My theory is that knowing what I sounded like before, then compared to post voice change, if sounds angry/annoyed/gruff but when a new person meets me, with no comparison, it's just a guy voice.
Hope this makes sense.
I heard that a bunch as well! Testosterone helped me feel more balanced in my emotions than I've ever been, and I have more control in how I respond in different situations. I did not become some crazy pissed off barbarian or whatever tf these people were expecting.
If anything, I'm MORE patient and even tempered than i used to be.
It's just gender essentialist bs (and also a bit of sexism in assuming men are inherently violent rather than the normalisation of male violence being a cultural thing)
i am… um… _kind of_ a cis male and i got slightly upset about stomping on a cardboard box to break it down because it felt violent, lol.
All this boils down to, "Look how much better we're doing than the people we're oppressing. That proves we're superior!"
My dangerous transitioning experience provided me:
Hope
Self actualization
Personality integration
Reduced suicidal ideations
Reduced dissociation
Self love
Self awareness
Being awake and being able to tell my reality wasn't just a phantom I am sleeping through without knowing..
My dangerous transitioning saved me..
In 20 years:
Regret
Despair
Shame
Feeling of betrayal
Mental issues
Willing to unalive yourself
Variety of health issues
Loneliness
A child/children with development issues or no children
Early grave
Did I mention regret?
@@saoirse2963 cope harder troll
@@saoirse2963 for you maybe. as for me and OP, we will die old and happy, unlike you who will die miserable and alone
@@saoirse2963 It's been 20 years already, still agree with op.
I strongly feel that, mate
One danger of transitioning: I will become unstoppable
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Daily reminder; You are valid and amazing just the way you are!
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Absolutely!
Nothing truer
So are you!!!
Thank you kindly
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I've always wondered how trans men deal with the UNYIELDING MALE RAGE we are all known for. I mean, what is a man if not a giant rage monster?
A miserable little pile of secrets?
@@orsolyafekete7485But enough talk, have at ye!!!
me personally, i am a machine that turns absolute rage into overwhelming love for those closest to me. though it seems i'm a bit of an outlier, maybe others more chase a call to the forest to scream to their hearts content?
Its interesting because as a vet one of the treatments for overly aggressive dogs is to neuter them. It should be noted that it really only works for younger dogs that are not fully adults yet. I do believe this is more to do with puberty and the sudden change in hormones in a young dog rather than testosterone itself (like a moody teenager). Learned behaviors are still going to be there post castration but its still done as a last resort. How I interpret that is that having higher testosterone can predispose to aggressive behaviors especially if its encouraged or there is a lack of training for dogs. Now IDK if this can be translational to humans but I feel like a lot of aggression and anger is learned behaviors or at least people that were not properly raised to deal with their negative emotions.
MY BODY IS A MACHINE THAT TURNS RAGE INTO drawing cool little guys
As a non dysphoric transmasc person: I support everyone who are starting their transition and those who're planning to! ❤🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
Oh, how blatant it is that this list was written from the perspective that "trans men only transition to escape patriarchy". It's such a depressing view; it's not just built entirely on the assertion that "men assault and women get assaulted" but actively pushes it as an inescapable order of nature.
Yeah it's a bit frightening how many things people say simply because they feel it's just how things are. Even in non trans issues, people will use the most disgusting phrases to try and make points that really boil down to men hurt women, men want to use women, men use women, etc.
Also it implies that men don’t get absolutely fucked by the patriarchy unless they’re this really weird stereotype of an alpha male, which most trans men are not.
Honestly, as someone who's been traumatized by being sexually harrassed multiple times, the first when I was 10, I just...
Okay look, I was also severly bullied when I was a teen, and I'm afraid of them. Like, teenagers walking in the streets laughing? I have to work on not having a fucking panic attack right there. Is my trauma real and horrible? Yes. Was it caused by teenagers? Yes. Am I in constant danger wherever teenagers exist, are they an especially dangerous group of people who I should constantly be afraid of? No.
I get forming your world around your fears, I really do, and there is statistical evidence that men are more likely to be of danger to women. But like, those same statistics show that most men aren't a danger to anyone. Treating half of human population as a threat I mean... that's such an exhausting world to live in, to constantly be afraid and convinced people will hurt you unless you stay far away from them. I would know, I've been there too.
That trauma is best handled with a good therapist instead of trying to fearmonger others buying into a worldview built purely on trauma and misery
The bit about "intimacy" is also giving cisstr8 order of nature.
Honestly, during my whole acceptance phase I was asking myself a lot of questions, including this notion.
The answer came quickly to me: If I wanted to be a strong woman, I would've become a strong woman.
"Testosterone won't give you male range voice" then why did my voice lower to a solid bass over the course of a year?
"you won't grow male body hair" oh yes i sure will. i'm already hairier than several cis men i know.
I just turned 18 last month, I don’t need my parents permission to go on T anymore!!! - they said no but it’s ok because they can’t anymore
Wishing you the best
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Just wanna add, be safe and responsible! As someone who's parents didn't approve of going on T, I know I'm pretty lucky that they aren't overtly hateful towards me and just ignore the changes, but it's still an unpleasant experience as I still live with them and they pretend that I'm not trans. I'm actively working towards moving out though.
Thank you so much! I’m a cis woman, but I’m a writer and I’m so intrigued by other people of LGBTQIA+ (I’m bisexual) so when I’m writing characters that are trans it’s really good to hear about trans stuff from an actual trans person so I don’t write the characters badly or stereotypical.
thank you for trying to make accurate diverse characters!
@@FrogsLikeFruitSnacks of course! It’s like my biggest fear is to try and represent a group of people and accidentally offend those people instead 😭
Could I ask your opinion on frogs?
@@PAN-ickmode247 frogs are amazing, I actually have a pet frog named Prince 😂
@@huntingorgon44 A lot of writers ask for opinions of trans people in r/asktransgender.
I'm on testosterone since 2,5 years and my voice still has a feminine undertone. Maybe it's just me. But people hear that my voice is feminine and I hate it. At least, to hear that I'm not alone with that, helps.
You're still valid 🤗
I'm a little over 5 years on T. My voice has changed very little and I don't pass at all. It was hard at first because I basically only heard about how easy it is supposed to be for trans masculine people to pass on testosterone. It felt like it was just me that was somehow messing up. Still struggle with it honestly but at least I know now that it can happen to other people too.
For me, singing or really thinking about it, my voice is quite low, low end of baritone. But in my head, after living as a woman for 45 years, I still "hear" my feminine voice. And I know that I subconsciously try to match my speaking voice to my head voice, pitching it higher. If I talk too long my voice gets strained because I'm accidentally trying to talk up at the top end of my register. Not sure if that's something you could be experiencing, but just throwing it out there.
It may just be your particular anatomy. Some people’s vocal cords are more receptive to androgenic changes than others. Keep in mind that many cis men also have feminine voices as well.
If this is something that really bothers you, you might want to consider vocal training. People think it's only for trans girls but if you aren't reaching the results you'd like vocally as a trans man I highly recommend it
I’m currently questioning if I’m a trans man, you’re really helping me with my journey. Thank you Jamie, you’re awesome
Best of luck on your journey.
@@philopharynx7910 thank you!
@@S-yj2eh if you followed real science you would know sex and gender are different.
@@Kinsley0-0_Alex_Edits yeah sex is what you actually are, gender is a social construct and doesn’t actually exist cause we made it up. You can feel free to live in made up fairytale land, I’ll live in reality with the other intellectuals that understand men can’t get pregnant.
@@Kinsley0-0_Alex_Edits “Sex and gender are totally different, but if I can’t reaffirm my gender by cutting off the genitalia caused by my biological sex I’ll kiII myself”
A lot of these sound like threats of violence toward trans individuals. Such as the stickers and shirts that state "If you follow my wife or daughter into a woman's restroom you will identify with a wheelchair." This person really needs mental help and anger intervention.
It's weird isn't it? People who claim that trans people are the threat proving that it's actually the transphobes who are a danger to the people around them.
Love your videos!! 💚🌈 I have a friend who happens to be trans and I sent her your channel. She also loves it. You help so many people by telling your story 😊 and of course, I love watching you react to all the ignorant people spewing misinformation. You always bring compassion and facts. 👏
Thank you, I would have posted something the same and I'm glad you did. Jamie is wonderful!
Hello I’m glad you have a platform and can use it for a good purpose like this and speak for trans people
Fun fact but girls going through puberty, or in general just women, can get hot flashes during ovulation and periods. It's not just a menopause thing. Some women as they have already gone through menopause may have to in older age go on hrt for various reasons, my grandma at 70 was put on hrt and it reversed menopause and began periods again and she had to stop treatments because her periods were so bad.
Hormones are far more complex than people want to think.
"Hormones are far more complex than people want to think" - I agree, that's why it's not smart to mass around with them. With or without a doctor note.
@@saoirse2963 ill take messing around with hormones over living an existence as miserable as yours
I have my second endocrinologist appointment this week, and using the informed consent model, I very well may have my T prescription by the weekend!
Wow that’s sad
good luck brother. ignore the weirdo above me
@@-metaknight-1135 cry
My chronic pain and physical health got significantly better when I got on T
if you don't mind me asking, what chronic pain condition(s) do you have? i have hEDS and i've wondered if I'll experience any changes with that because i started T (almost 3 months now!)
I keep hoping that E will improve my (unfortunately unexplained) chronic health issues, but it hasn't yet. Although I think my doctor has me on too low of a dose. (Currently working on fixing that.)
Same genuinely. I've been dealing with severe joint and muscle pain for years, but since starting T it has significantly lessened
mine hasn't unfortunately, although i think it's more to do with age in general and the inability to be able to go outside and do gentle physical activity
The health of your reproductive system hasn't got better.
I was super aggressive BEFORE testosterone and I found that it mellowed me out actually! I think some of it was I was unhappy with myself and once I became happier I became more pleasant to be around and for myself but I was so scared of aggression and it just did not happen to me lol (not saying this is every case just mine)
I've actually heard a lot of trans men say that, though. T made them mellower, because they were finally themselves.
@@electronics-girl that’s basically how it was for me yeah 😂 I became happier with myself and therefore was more pleasant to be around
@@axelasmodeus03 Yeah, I think that's true of me and E, as well. I was a grouchy bastard before I transitioned.
I have always hated myself and how i looked. I am 9 months into HRT and got dressed up and put makeup and stuff on and omg i felt so comfortable and happy for the first time 😊😊😊😊😊😊 im trans woman not trans man but we have alot of similarities as trans man like for example restroom issues. Great job on the video 👍
My biggest restroom issue is fearing being called out for sitting down to pee. I have no interest in using an STP so I can stand at a urinal next to a complete stranger.
@Kleineganz I used to have that fear too, but I've learnt that most people don't care - especially if you look confident enough :D I'm not passing AT ALL and the only person who's ever shown any emotion to me going in the men's was an old lady. Confidence is key, you're allowed to use the bathroom
@@Kleineganz im a cis guy and ive always sat to pee for some reason :sob: it was just easier
@@glugging I actually posted a poll and asked this question of cis guys on Threads and I was surprised how many said they prefer to sit when peeing. It really made me feel better about it.
What was also telling were some guys who decided to be douchebags and ridiculed anyone who admitted to sitting.
I am so grateful to learn all these facts in a calm format without any anti-trans anger in the original content.
Jamie's channel is a good place to go when you are fed up with transphobic jerks.
@@philopharynx7910It really helped with my bigotry rehab lol
I love it when you post! I hate all the misinformation about transitioning
Thank you for covering and debunking so much of the stuff out there meant to scare young trans kids
Honestly most of the "dark side" of testosterone stuff is literally just male puberty. Like if you want to know what will happen on testosterone ask your brother or dad or male friend what changes happened when they where going through puberty (obviously everyones puberty is different for example some people get acne some don't)
As a trans woman, male puberty was indeed a dark time.
The way these people see it, AMAB and AFAB bodies are virtually different species. The idea that cells are just cells, tissues are just tissues, and hormones are just hormones, is impossible to them. They accuse us of believing in "immaterial gendered souls," but they're the ones who believe in immaterial gendered souls. They will look at tissues or organs or hormones that are identical in form and function and act like they're magically different because their owners have different chromosomes or something.
The stuff Jamie's reacting to reminds me of some people's reaction to trans women breastfeeding. There is no meaningful biological distinction between a cis woman or a trans woman using an induced lactation protocol to breastfeed an infant she didn't birth. The cells are just cells. The breast tissue is just breast tissue. The milk ducts are just milk ducts. Research indicates the milk is nutritionally similar to that of cis women. So they just deny physical reality instead and pretend all of that isn't true.
Yeah Nominal Naomi got a LOT of hate for breastfeeding her child.
People called her a pedophile for...*checks notes* feeding an infant.
Yeah, I have to imagine that transphobes are not science fiction fans. They don't seem to understand that you can transform anything into anything else, with sufficiently advanced technology. It's all just matter.
Ahh this "every cell of your body is male/female" stuff. Every human genome has a building plan for a man and a woman and many "in between" states. The SRY gene is only a trigger element for switching which plan shall be used and which not, not a genetic building plan element.
@@spooniejusticewarriorit's because it's clear as a sky on a sunny day he did it for his own sexual gratification and for "validation", and not for the benefit of his child.
Are you kidding me right now. No one knows what the consequences of feeding an infant with this stuff. It's an INFANT. His or her brain development literally depends on the milk he/she drinks. It's all the baby eats. They have one source of nutrition at this age, a mother's milk. Formula carefully made could sufficient, although it's not as good as mother's milk. But this thing? It doesn't have enough nutrients to be fed on alone, we know that at least, and who knows what all the hormones and medications do? Who knows if that doesn't harm the baby? The development of the baby, the development of the baby's brain? Do you think this is a game? This could have severe ramifications for the baby. You are gambling on this kid's life and you don't give a shit. More important to validate the trans women. Disgusting.
No, not different species, difference sexes. A cell is not just a cell, we have different cells in our body that function differently and have different programs, purposes and qualities. Women's (females') breasts and men's (males') breasts are not the same, and it's not just the fat. They are structured differently. Our bodies are the result of millions of years of evolution, and there are so many thing about the human body we don't understand. Females of all mammals are the ones who feed their young with their milk, never the males. So actually, there is a huge different between a female and a male who take estrogen in levels his male body is not supposed to have and use drugs to induce lactating artificially. Infant's nutrition is extremely important to the child future development. The baby could grow up to have severe developmental issues, including mental and physical issues, or even die, if he/she is fed only on this "milk" artificially made from a male and this "milk" is lacking in some crucial substance.
It's not funny at all, there are infants who died and infants who grow up suffering severe development issues, because they had been drinking formula that lacked a single component due to defect in the manufacturing. There could be severe consequences for this and life could be ruined, and for what? You'd think a growing man would think of the future of his baby and not of his own validation. There is no justification for it.
As an aroace that's sex repulsed I find low libido and loss of intimacy as an absolute win
as a fellow ace-spec person, T will almost always increase your libido unfortunately :\
You don't have to be intimate with anyone now too? And if you have libido, what do you care so much? Use your hand and be done with it. Don't forget wash after.
@@saoirse2963 ignoring how weirdly detailed this is, as someone who is also aspec and hates having libido, it's just a nuisance and being trans as well makes it uncomfortable like you kinda have to dissociate
@@saoirse2963 tf you mean "use my hand"? for what😭
@@Bunny_Bill they're a troll
I have an online friend I've known for over ten years, who in that time has gone from "I guess I'm a woman, if you say so" to "I guess I'm nonbinary" to "my pronouns are he/him". After he'd been on T for just a little while, I commented on a photo, "You look more like yourself." The thing is, he hasn't changed? as a person? He still keeps birds (our mutual love of birds is how we met, through Tumblr). He still works out a scary amount (always has, the whole time I've known him). He's still stressed at his job for reasons that have nothing to do with gender issues (he's a college professor). He doesn't even dress a lot differently. He's just more himself.
All great points. On the rage topic, I was an angry person before getting on T - and T helped remove my dysphoria which made it easy to process my feelings in a healthy way.
As someone with chronic pain caused by endometriosis, ha. Buddy, if I had the chance to get on puberty blockers and then take T or get a hysterectomy, I wouldn't be dealing with CPP. Chronic pain sucks, and it's awful to use in a list like this to scare people.
I second this soooo hard
Soooo... have a hysterectomy?
@@saoirse2963 Too late to make any difference for endo, unfortunately.
@@j.apenrose7896 its a troll. don’t bother replying to it
I didn't transition for a long time because 1) I was worried I was just trying to escape "female violence" (experienced multiple CSAs and SAs throughout my life) 2) I was scared I would become angrier (and I was already so angry all the time) and 3) I kept telling myself I was going to wait and work on my mental health to make sure it was really what I wanted
I came to the realization that I wasn't transitioning to escape being a woman, I was transitioning to be my true self. My anger actually *improved* significantly, I'm the calmest I've ever been some... 6 years on testosterone now. And shocking no one, my mental health improved exponentially once I transitioned and was living as my true self. And testosterone also helps me with my fibromyalgia, after every shot my pain improves for a week or so. So testosterone didn't cause my chronic pain, but it sure helped it!
And to top it all off, my sex life has never been better lmao
i find it interesting that we generally associate testosterone with anger and aggression. anecdotally, when i first started T, i definitely had less self-control, and i felt like emotions came on faster/stronger. it was something that i had to adjust to.
BUT i had a similar experience with estrogen-dominant puberty as a younger person, and sometimes due to the hormonal cycles related to menstruation. i think major hormonal shifts just mess with my emotional control!
Can confirm, transitioning has turned me into a rage monkey. Pretty sure that's more to do with jumping through more damn hoops than a circus animal than the testosterone itself though
so real, the hoops are seemingly endless it's crazy 💀
Thank you for responding to misinformation with facts and compassion. I suspect the person who posted this is miserably unhappy and lashing out in pain. Getting good information (backed up with sources) and refusing to engage in the nastiness helps more people than shouting at those who can't or won't listen.
I just got to know today that I’m getting an appointment with a hormone doctor in 2 days !!!! I have been waiting 5 years. Update: I GOT THE T
@@stickytack4151 was that necessary to comment I’m disappointed in you. Do better next time
@@THE-MUFFIN-MAN-v9s its a troll
@@winterbliss4459 yea I know, I luckily don’t get easily upset over things like that
Just started taking T regularly, and though this has been a LONG time coming, I appreciate the timing of this video in relation to my doings.
The thumbnail: OH NO SO DANGEROUS, DEPRESSED PERSON TURNED INTO A HAPPY GOOD-LOOKING MAN
i think we need to speak more about how gender affirming care isnt just for trans people and how most of it started off as helping cis people (eg. plastic surgery aka gender affirming surgery, hormone treatment bc some cis peoples bodies dont work how they were supposed to, puberty blockers bc some cis children had issues with puberty happening sooner than it was supposed to so they needed to pause that somehow) basically surgeries that were made to help cis people evolved to also help trans people or simply was used for more than it was originally intented for 👍
(ALSO i mean talking about it more to educate transphobic ppl bc we have already tried defending it and explaining how it isnt as harmful as they claim it is and they dont really listen so we should also mention how cis ppl also get those treatments for their issues and actually used more and for longer than they were for trans people...and how that hasn't been an issue)
Yes, this is a big issue. For instance, puberty blockers have been used for years to stop kids from undergoing premature puberty. But all of a sudden, giving them to trans kids is "experimental" and is currently forbidden in the UK.
Breast augmentation (or reduction) is a routine procedure in the US, even on teens. (And yes, Dolly Parton's chest was the result of gender-affirming surgery.) But it's suddenly controversial if a legal adult who is trans wants it.
Plastic surgeries of all sorts, likewise. And other surgeries. Urethral lengthening to correct hypospadias is routine - but suddenly it's horrifying and experimental if the procedure is done on a trans man.
@@viverra which proves that it’s not about the treatments or “protecting the children” but entirely transphobia and not wanting trans people to exist happily
Saying you shouldn't be trans because of chasers is like saying you aren't allowed to be black or asain because they get heavily fetishized as well.
and women should not have large breasts, or long legs... or feet, never ever have feet!
I have a first appointment for HRT coming up in a few weeks, and this has done a lot to quell the anxiety I've had and make me feel more educated on this. Thank you, Jamie!
Love the thumbnail. "The 'horrors' of testosterone" and a timeline that shows that you are clearly much happier now that you've transitioned. :D
As a Cis woman, I want to thank you for teaching me so much about the trans experience so that I can learn how to be the best ally, and all of that in an entertaining way, love your channel! 🥰
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STOP being a handmaiden! They don't care about you! Some of them really hate you. Advocate for yourself, no one else.
@saoirse2963 what? Are you okay? I personally really appreciate allys.
@@e.BE-441.4 Yes me too and I want to be a good one haha that’s what I meant 😇
What I meant was that I love how he teaches about the trans experience and about how you can best support trans people, which is what I want to do
Does anyone else feel like girl Jamie just looks like him cross dressing?
Jamie looks happier as a man. Changing his outward gender expression to masculine looked like it really improved his confidence. It really worked well for him.
I definitely feel that way with Abigail Thorn in the old episodes of Philosophy tube. I watch them and think, "Oh look, it's Abigail wearing a fake goatee!"
Perfect timing!
I'm starting T this week, so it's good to know that "health" won't happen!
Guess this means I should go stock up on soup and cough drops, or something? 😂
Ramen? Nah, raw men
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a raw man is much less concerning than a cooked one
I’m so sorry to everyone who saw my comment this wasn’t the right video 💀
@@Lemellowfellow my condolences 💀
OMG I'm never this early! Yay, new Jamie video!!!
Just wanted to say that I really love and appreciate these kinds of videos where we can debunk transphobic rhetoric with both peer reviewed studies and personal anecdotes; it gives me some extra ammo in the pack to shoot down these sort of arguments and makes me feel a lot better equipped to face bigotry in my life. Thank you Jamie
Ive been wanting to ask my mom for a packer (she supports but would prob think it’s sexual) and even tho my dysphoria sucks,watching Jamie’s vids rlly help me. Ty ❤
Many of these points to do with how transpeople are perceived are like saying,
"Warning! If you drive a car you may encounter homicidally drunk drivers and squid-armored bikers too high on caffine to close thier trottles," as though your choice of transport is the cause of these external risks.
The voice thing is especially funny as I am amab (nonbinary) and currently voice training a little bit. I found out how it's relatively easy to sound feminine and many transwomen are completely unclockable. Literally it's a tube that gets longer and you can use or not use that tube. These transphobes need to grow up
I'm currently voice training, and I'm making progress, but it doesn't feel "easy" to me. And it's hard for me to objectively evaluate what I sound like. I keep worrying that I sound like a Muppet or like Baby Fundie Voice, or something.
@@electronics-girl I can't fully sound like a girl yet either but I already had a few instances where I really did. I didn't mean to downplay how hard can be to sound passing. My voice is naturally deep and I have problems from chronic underuse. So a month ago I didn't believe I could even say a few words in a girl voice. You probably sound better than you think so don't get discouraged. For me trans voice lessons' videos are super helpful. Raising R1 (long to short vocal tract) was alright for me, but then I learnt I have the habit of contracting my false vocal coords even in my usual speech pattern. I think that will take me months to fix
Just got my prescription for T today and about to start my transition! Love seeing this pop up, only solidified knowing Im making the right decision
As a cis man, I find you very personable, and very funny. I expect that we'd get along just fine. I can see trans men having trouble with toxically masculine cis men. But they tend to be asshole sthat you wouldn't want to spend time with anyway.
Re: safety/passing: I'm nb but on T, and the voice drop completed my "safety set" -- I'm a bigger person on the spectrum, so I am a wall with RBF. Before T, I sounded like Kristen Chenoweth. Now if I need to be intimidating or offputting, I don't need to artificially drop my voice -- I just need to keep from turning on the "customer service mode" brightening, and I have a grumbly growly voice that you have to listen harder to parse. While I'm not gonna make someone piss themself and run, I definitely have made people think twice about being aggressive towards me or people around me. T has made me walking de-escalation and honestly I am SO HAPPY about that.
Hey guys, I kinda need help. I'm a 13 year old female going through gender stuff. I'm not happy. And I always feel happier when someone calls me a boy. I think if I transition I will feel completed. But I'm scared. I'm in a homophobic school. Every kid is mean towards Trans and gay people. I hear threats towards Trans people every day. I don't know about my family. I asked my mom what she thinks of gay people and she said they're alright. I never asked about Trans people. I fear if I do what i think is better for me, I won't live in a home anymore. I'll live in hell. I don't know what to do. I don't know if I should transition to feel better for myself or stay a female to at least still have friends and support.
Oh I'm so sorry to hear about your situation, homophobia sucks.
It's totally normal to feel confused and scared about your gender identity. You're not alone in this.
At least your mom doesn't seem like a homophobic person, maybe try talking to her about trans people and see what her opinions are on the topic. If she seems ok with it then maybe tell her about how you are feeling
I really hope things go well for you :)
As a person basically the same age and in a similar position (mtf for me), you must find people like us, a community. If there are none in your school, then you may have to go elsewhere, such as an lgbtq+ youth centre or similar. If you can find people to talk to it will make your time much easier. Hope this helps, stay strong, we can get through this.
You need to first try and get help. Any professional counseling will do as a start, if its with a trans affirming counselor then even better. But this is a lot to go through and and deciver all alone. When you are not sure if you can talk to your mother about that topic, maybe she wlll still support you getting counseling, when you tell her that you struggle with puberty a lot and you might need a professional to talk with.
Another option is to test the waters by telling her how the students talk about gay and trans people and how sad it makes you for them being so mean to other people. Overall your health and safety go first. What that means for you specifically I cannot tell you. I am sorry, I wished I could carry that burden for you. All I can tell you, is that from everybody I heard on that topic: if you stay strong, it will get better, you will grow up, be able to make friends, that will accept you, will be able to move to a place were you can explore your own true self.
For now: would it be safe to go the "tomboy" route? Meaning dressing boyish, wearing your hair in a cut typically used by boys and maybe having a nick name that is not gendered? With that you can slowly test the waters, see how it feels, without outing yourself just yet.
If you feel like you need medical care though, you have to take the risk and talk to your mom. Do not, by any means experiment with selfmedication, that shit can fuck you up for live, not because of "regrets' but because hormones influences so many important systems that miscalculating the dose is really dangerouse.
@@hannajung7512 very comforting advice.
Ignoring the bs in the posts it boils down to "This isn't for everyone"
A good analogy I heard was comparing T and E to glasses for shortsighted and farsighted people.
I myself am shortsighted I would not benefit from farsighted glasses, quite the opposite in fact. Though others will very much appreciate that there are farsighted glasses as that's what they need.
People who have good eyesight don't have a use for either, and then there are also people who live their entire life with bad eyesight and think that's just normal, doesn't negate the fact that they would greatly benefit from glasses.
And posts like this are basicslly: If you have bad eyesight don't wear glasses, it'll hurt your eyes even more. And I think that's sad
This list sadly sounds like a de-transitioner whose become a grifter,pick me. There are people that will take this list as truth and use it against our community (Matt) being trans didn't turn me gay,but I realised I was gay at the same time I realised I was trans
Yay!! Jamie posted!!!
Truth is, unless you do tests, you can't know your hormone level.
Medical transition usually involves periodic testing to see how people are adapting to the shots.
My first year on T I went in for blood work every 3 months, and I still go in every 6 months or so to check hormone levels. Trans people know their relative hormone levels better than the average cis person because that testing is a part of our transition. With cis people, unless there's a specific medical reason to get that blood work and check hormone levels, they might never know their hormone levels.
@@philopharynx7910 if you take any drugs you need tests of some sort.
You don't need to do a test to figure out that if you are growing a beard and you have a vagina, these is most probably some problems. Usually high testosterone levels in females.
The menopause argument is so funny though. "Warning! If you take hormones to have male hormones levels instead of female hormones levels in your body, you will not have female hormones levels in your body!" Yes. It was the entire point of the process. Thanks for your input, pal.
Comment comment comment. Take that algorithm!
I see your comment comment comment and raise you a comment comment.
@@philopharynx7910 I'll take your comment comment and raise another comment
@barrylangille3523 I raise another comment to you, in a toast of many comments being commented ☺️
comment 🙂
@@TheresaBaker420 😆😆😆
Hi guys! ❤ love ya 🏳️🌈 (I know you’re gay if you’re reading this)
Gee really? I didn’t notice!
im not gay 😅
I’m bisexual
i'm NB and gynosexual. maybe "queer" was the word you're looking for?
Bisexual, halfway there lol
The mi8nor minor minor risks for transitioning are worth finally feeling alive and happy.
Leaving a comment for the algorithm
for the algorithm what's your favourite prehistoric animal?
@@oreolaw9911mine is Utahraptor ostrommaysorum :3
@@oreolaw9911 probably a boring answer but the Mammoth. What about you?
Really enjoying these more evidence-based, 'serious' videos!
I think Jammi is one of the best at discussing something or showing where someone is wrong without being confrontational or aggressive
Every Sunday, it’s always fun to tune in 👏🏽
I am really grateful for trans men and the resources you have created. I've recently started testosterone replacement therapy and even though I'm a cis man the best sources of information of administering shots and things to look out for have been trans resources.
The voice of reason has spoken. Thank you for another great video! 💜
I thought the bleeped word was “sexuality” and I’m like I do not see how T could decrease sexuality.
And then I realized what it really was.
I need advice. I have been going through a gender identity uncertainty and don't know what to do. I'm glad I found Jamie. It helps me to know how i feel is valid, and it's OK to try new things.
What I'm wondering is what are some ways to help me figure out who I am? And recommendations on how to deal with disphoria.
Hey! Trans masc person here. Sometimes just trying different pronouns might help! Looking up different identities too could help find words to describe how you're feeling. And my advice on dysphoria depends on what type of dysphoria you experience :) like if you have chest dysphoria if you're AFAB, wearing oversized hoodies helps as well as colourful and stripped shirts. Layering is also helpful! Just know you're valid and it's totally okay to try different pronouns or explore your gender identity.
Try using new pronouns with people you don’t know or feel safe enough with. Maybe try to use clothes that are stereotypically associated with the opposite gender. With myself, I found out I was ftm through calling myself with a male name in my mind. Keep in mind that I’m still in early stages of transitioning, so I am not an all knowing sage on this matter. In the end, I hope you will find the label that suits you best and I wish a fantastic rest of the day!
There was a point when I said that I was genderfluid not bc I felt that way, but because I wanted to try different pronouns. Unfortunately, no one has really listened, and part of me feels like it isn't ok and I need to stay a girl (I'm AFAB), but that though makes me unhappy. Also, because in my brain, I use male pronouns, it makes me happy, but when I mess up, I question if I am actually the way I feel.
@@aliolson8630 it's actually really common to accidentally misgender yourself especially since you are conditioned into thinking being transgender isn't an option. I myself needed some time to get used to calling myself the right pronouns just because I was told by my family that being trans is wrong. I'm sorry no one listened to you when you said you were gender fluid that really sucks. It sounds like using he/him genuinely makes you happy though. If you have a close friend or someone you could trust, maybe ask them to refer to you with he/him pronouns, and see how it feels. Just know you're valid no matter what anyone else tells you :)
@@aliolson8630 Try to understand why people think you are not valid: is it informed transphobia or ignorance? If it’s the first, then there are two choices: staying in the closet until you are surrounded by better people or slowly trying to to change their minds. It’s a long process, but it kind of worked out for me: tell them about successful transitions and how you really feel. If it’s ignorance, then start to tell them small details about transition, one by one, in conversations that don’t strictly relate to being trans. Also, it’s normal to sometimes misgender oneself, especially in the early days of transitioning, so don’t bash yourself too much for it.
Thank you hun for spreading the legit info.
Jammidodger's Rainbow Dinosaur Feed! Because dinosaurs are cool, transphobia is not!
i had to stop my testosterone after only a couple of months. i am agenderflux, so i was on a very low dose of T that is typically used for masc leaning nonbinary people. i had to stop my even low dosage because it was making me mentally unstable, including insane hypersexuality and rage that i could not control. HOWEVER! i already have longstanding issues with these things. i finally managed (wow it's already been a year ago now) to get a bipolar disorder diagnosis. i have other diagnoses and wish to pursue more care to be sure i am not missing any pieces. you are GOING to experience changes when you switch to having a completely different dominant hormone than what is your norm. but nobody is the same, and anyone can have a different reaction than you.
Yep. Everyone's different. Even for other medications things interact differently depending on the person and how they were before. It's so odd for that list person to say everyone person taking T will be super angry.
Oh just FYI on the atrophy thing, I ran into a lot of pelvic pain that nearly stopped my sex life once I started T.
I went to a pelvic floor PT, and we were able to reduce the pain so that sex was easier. Seems I just got so tense and tight after starting T and everything else, that the normal muscle contractions were becoming painful.
Just wanted to put out that personal experience, because I don’t see it discussed as a potential impact of T.
Btw happily on T for two years and will happily continue.
Thank god I am Aroace
The danger of misinformation is that the people spreading it don’t need sources or research to be “correct”, but the people debunking it need to show everything and spend days trying to prove the truth
I'm so bad at telling if someone is trans. I don't watch your channel often and didn't know you were trans until watching this video. It obviously doesn't matter, but it's hilarious when conservatives or whomever says you'll never be like the gender youre transitioning to someone or everyone will always be able to tell that they would never be able to tell if someone was trans. Like personally, I can't tell and dont care if someone is trans, but for those who do try to 'spot' trans people I imagine they are almost always wrong.
The "we can always tell" crowd are NOTORIOUSLY bad at "telling" and will misgender cis people more often than they misgender trans people.
Good for you for getting truth out there. It's not only about the person transitioning, its also their families. They may be supportive, but if they read that kind of thing they will become anxious, and the corrections are so needed! Thank you!
You should start Jammie’s Gym for Muscles
Off topic I love you pfp
ok ok hear me out
a gym for MUSSELS
impeccable pfp and name
The last part you said reminded me of how in elementary school I was told vegetarians on average had a shorter life expectancy - I was so crushed because one of my few acquaintances was vegatarian and thinking of her dying early really hurt. BUT even as a child I knew it wasn’t my place to say anything and eventually learned that the reason was simply the lack of education on PROPER vegetarian diets which led to malnutrition. Even if your heart is in the right place, it is not an excuse to try and change an integral part of another human being. Know your place - if a literal child can do it, so can you
One of my friends (they used to identify as transmasc but now I think they are just genderfluid(???)) had tried to tell me that there are specific organs in the human body that are sex specific and are fatal to remove.
I tried to educate them about how if you were to remove my uterus (safely) or something, I would not die, same with removing and man's penis (safely). They said "I know it's not like the uterus and penis and stuff, but there's some other thing." and I said "No, there isn't. The heart, lungs, brain and stuff are not gender specific organs." and they were like "But my sister said-" and I was like "Dude, not everything your sister says is true?" because like, I have older siblings as well and they are pretty well educated (in my mind at least) but then don't know specific things (uhh, for examples, my older sister continuously asks what the spelling of words (that seem simple to spell for me) are.)
Sometimes I wonder if their sister said that when they labelled themself as trans and then they got scared and became genderfluid........
This convo is written off of my memory from a few months ago and also made more formal-ish to make a tiny bit more sense.... I hope it does lol
There is no organ in the human body that only one sex has that if said organ was safely removed the patent would die.
you’re right. there’s no sex-specific organs in the body that will kill you (or really harm you much at all) if removed. any hormonal disruption that may come from removing breast tissue can either be mitigated with HRT, or may be entirely unnecessary to mitigate if the person is for example transmasc
I am a transmasc Guy. I have had alot of issues regarding my gender identity.
If it wasn’t for men like you and some support group on DeviantArt, I’d never underrstood what was special about myself.
I am 31 now and my greatest wish is to grow a beard as beautiful as you. Also, your Voice.
I am a PreT man WHOs always hatad my boobs and broad hips.
I can barely wait until I can see myself in the mirror and see a man as attraktive as youm Jamie.
On the point of fitting in with cis men - most of my friends are cis men, BUT all of us are somewhere on the neurodivergent spectrum. I'm also autistic (late diagnosed) with alexithymia, and all my close friends also fall somewhere on the spectrum within autism, adhd, or both. Also, the few women in our friends' group are also on the spectrum, and view themselves as tomboys (definitely not trans, but don't present as effeminate women. They rarely wear feminine clothes or makeup or do much of anything with their hair outside of putting them into ponytails). Even then, I get along better with most of the men in our group.
I've always had more guy friends, even before I transitioned. I get along better with cis guys (on or off the spectrum) than I ever have with cis women, and it's not because the men were at all interested in me (even the straight ones). I was always too weird/awkward for them to find me attractive, but they still liked hanging out with me because I shared their nerdy interests (like comic books and video games).
What's frustrating to me is that theese people will literally make things up with 0 evidence or proof whatsoever, and at no point in their thinking process they go "wait, maybe if i need to invent crazy stuff to support my case, perhaps my case is wrong!?"
Like c'mon
Honestly, I wouldn't really care if HRT shortened my lifespan. Because I'd rather have a short life and enjoy it rather than a long life that I don't.
I'm a trans woman, so I would be taking estrogen as opposed to testosterone, but I'd imagine this person's views on estrogen wouldn't be that different.
The crushed larynx one was just WTF!? Sounds like they got info from FTM and MTF HRT and used a mix of bad info but the crushed larynx 🤔
Been taking T for a lil over two years, still the best decision I've ever made
Recently my mother and I have had many arguments about this and this really helped with my mental health, thank you Jamie
I’m a cis woman and have unfortunately had PCOS since my early teens.
My testosterone levels were seven times that of the “average” man and I barely had any visible symptoms.
I get a couple of stray hairs growing where I don’t want them but I just pluck them out, the biggest change for me was going from thick thighs and a relatively flat stomach to really thin thighs and a large stomach.
I also got type 2 diabetes along with it which contributed to the above changes.
So even when I was able to play sports (I have acquired disabilities), if I wanted to play at higher levels where they test for T, I wouldn’t be welcomed 🙄
It just shows how people don’t understand that your body responds differently to hormones depending on your genetics and gene expression 🤷🏻♀️
The highest recorded level of testosterone in a woman with pcos is 205 ng/dl. The average man has between 300 - 1000 ng/dl and you are claiming your testosterone levels were 7 times that of an average man?
Just looking at the thumbnail, I just have to say, wow. You’ve come a long way. Here’s to hoping my transition goes that well ❤