Propane Patio Heater “Will Not Light”
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- This is a HILAND patio heater. Model # HLDSO1-CG. I was visiting a friend who asked me to look at his heater. He was having trouble getting it to start. These heaters are not difficult to work on. Access to the working parts is simple. These units and gas fireplaces all work on the same principles of operation. I don’t work on this stuff very often. I would think the thermocouple would be a good place to check if the pilot would not stay lit. In this case I started from the beginning of the fuel supply and worked my way thru. If I was getting fuel to the pilot and it would not stay lit I would test the thermocouple. I hope yo enjoy the video.
Roger
Thanks Roger, your trick with the aerosol into the pilot tube was the fix for me. I thought the pilot was clear but it wasn't - compressed air cleared it. Also, if the pilot and thermocouple aren't working, the main gas supply valve will shut off and the unit won't light under any circumstances. So you saved me the cost of replacing the main control valve and thermocouple. Thanks for uploading your video.
Hi @thewarners3665. Thanks for checking out the video and taking time to post. You don’t know how much it means to me. I just love it when things are fixed for little or no cost. Roger
Thanks for sharing this video. Looking forward to servicing mine. Nicely done. 👌
Hi mattwaters. Thanks for taking a look at the video. I hope that you get your patio heater going again. Most of them seem to have a very simple fix. Once you understand how they work it’s not that hard to figure out what the problem is. Just take your time and use the right size tools as a lot of the parts are made out of soft brass. It’s easy to round off the corners on some of the nuts. Thanks for taking the time to watch and post. Good luck. Roger.
The clogged small pilot tube was my issue. The proper wrench size for me was a 8mm. Your video was extremely useful.
Hi gguezille. I’m glad the video helped to solve your problem. It seems a common problem for many of these units. Good part there are no parts required. Seems a shame that some units were probably thrown out for the same issue. Thanks for watching and posting. Roger
this worked perfect for me glad i found your video thank you
Hi Peggy Peterson, I’m glad it worked out. I’m sure some people have thrown their heaters out because of the factory using too much thread sealant.
Great video, from testing the components, to explaining how easy it is to damage the small brass components. This video was everything I was looking for and more.
Hey Ramon Denby. I’m glad that you found the video helpful. These heaters are not to complicated once you understand how they work. Older gas hot water tanks and furnaces all work on the same principles. Thanks for taking the time to view and post a comment.
Roger
Enjoyed your video. Very professionally done compared to other videos on this topic. I like the fact that you fixed it without disabling any of the safety features. I am in the process of fixing my heater that came with a house we recently purchased. It sometimes works but most of the time It lights but won’t stay lit after releasing the gas control knob after 30 to 60 seconds. I purchased a new thermocouple off Amazon for $13 . I will find out this morning after it gets light out and I reassemble the unit if that fixed it our not. It came with a new tip over device which I also installed. By the way, my unit has a electronic igniter, not a pilot light. The igniter works fine.
Hi Ronald Hartl. It sure sounds like it is the thermal couple. If you have a multimeter that will give you millivolt readings you can test the old one first. There are a ton of videos on RUclips on how to do this. This way if the thermal couple is good you could return the new one. Sometimes the thermocouple tip gets a little dirty. You could lightly sand it with a Scotch-Brite pad to see what happens. If you get it working either you could leave it in or put the new one on. It’s a very small voltage so make sure all the connections are tight and everything is clean. Most propane heaters you would push the red button to let gas come out of the pilot tube and would light it with the electronic igniter. The reason you hold the button is is to warm up the thermal couple so it produces a small voltage to hold the main gas valve open. If the thermal couple is not producing enough voltage it will drop out and shut off the gas as a safety feature. If it is really windy sometimes the wind can blow the flame off the thermal couple and it will drop out . Lastly if the pilot flame is not strong enough it won’t heat up the thermocouple properly. There are a few things to check before you throw parts at it. Thanks for checking out the video and your comments . Good luck. Roger
Hey Mark Attwell. Thank for checking and commenting on the video. It’s nice to see that it was of benefit to your problem. Such a simple fix. I wonder how many were returned under warranty.Roger
Very nicely presented thank you. Mine appears to be exactly the same but under the brand Dellonda and it had the same fault from new.
Hi Mark Attwell. Thanks for checking out the video. Seems like a few of the different brands are experiencing the same problem. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Roger
I have a different model heater (they all work the same) but this was exactly my issue, the copper tubing clogged. Some brake cleaner and works good as new. Thank you!!
Yes Brian Wfd133. Once you figure one out you can virtually repair any model. Brake cleaner has many uses. I use all the time for various applications. Roger
@@repairitdontwreckit4257 that’s awesome something I never think to use. I missed your previous reply to my comment. Thanks again! Works like a charm
Hi ricardo manual. Thanks for checking out the video. The switch should reset when the heater is put in the vertical position. If it doesn’t reset it is probably defective and needs replacing. But it should be diagnosed before assuming it is the problem as it could be coincidental that there is another problem. When I tested mine it shuts down when the heater is tilted 30 degrees from vertical. Once it was back in the vertical position I could relight it. I hope this helps. Roger
Hi BrianWfd133 You’re right! They all have the same design and safety controls. Always check for the certification label on any gas appliance when purchasing new or used. It’s seems even different manufacturers have the same problem. You can see the opening in the pilot tube is real small. It doesn’t take much to blocked it off with some debris. It’s fun to see people getting there heaters going after watching a video. If it’s not working you have nothing to lose. Thanks for your comments. Roger
WOW checking my heaters and one will not work. Hoping to find an easy fix. This is a great video but l don’t think l can do all of this. I am going to see if l can find someone to help me before l just throw it away. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Dawann Williams. These heaters have very few parts. There’s not a lot to go wrong. Hopefully you can get it figured out for very little or no cost. Thanks for viewing the video and commenting. Roger
Hi ricardo manual. Thanks for checking out the video. If you put the heater in the vertical position it should reset on its own. You would have to relight the pilot. though. When I tested mine it shuts down when it is tilted around 30 degrees from vertical. If it doesn’t reset I chances are good it is defective.
Thanks. It worked!!
@@MOW That’s great. Thanks for letting me know. Roger
Nicely done 👌
Thanks. Shriam Studios. I appreciate you taking time to comment. Roger
Great job
Thanks Ken Peacock. Hopefully it helped you out. Roger
Worked!
Great.
Soooo basically with a drilled out orifice and the addition of a forced air and fuel delivery I could make one of these suckers an upside down rocket. It would be awesome to use in the hay loft.
Hey brianallison1913. Anything is possible. There’s always a chance to repurpose these heaters if you can’t get them to work as intended. I hope the video was helpful for you. Thanks for watching and posting. Roger
@@repairitdontwreckit4257 lol it helped very much as a friend/neighbor of mine has one she wants me to look at tomorrow because it isn't working quite right. With your video I know what the layout will be and what to check out and diagnose. Thanks again for the video and the info it contains.
Hi brianallison. Good luck with your repair. Take your time. Don’t force anything. These things are not built heavy duty. Their is a lot of sharp edges so be careful. Let me know how you make out. Thanks. Roger
My issue with mine is the pilot stays on but it doesn’t burn strong enough I can’t figure out why the flame isn’t strong enough
Hi davidmorales. Is the pilot strong enough to light the main burner.
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Yes it stays on , just a high flame but it’s not strong like it’s suppose to be
Everything works from it starting up
It’s just not burning the way it should , it mainly just regular fire
And I don’t get that rich burn my other heaters give out
The flame is just weak
@@davidmorales3454 If your confident nothing is blocked I would try a different regulator. Its easy to remove yours from the heater and attatched a known good. If you have a gas bbq that uses propane you may be able to use it for testing. If that solves the problem great. If not then the main valve on the heater could be the problem. Double check to make sure no spiders have not made a web in a hidden area in the gas supply tubes and pipes. The webs can easily block the tubes especially if there are internal screens. Take as much apart as you can to inspect. If the pilot and main flame are not strong it seems like a gas supply problem or a slight blockage in the system that serves both flames. Carb cleaner under pressure in a can seems to work pretty good.
@@repairitdontwreckit4257 thank you so much … I will do that and get back to you .. once again thanks for your help
Can a fuel filter be added to the unit?
Hi Paul Ohalloran. To answer your question it is possible to add a filter. I’ve never seen it and don’t believe a filter is available. All of these heaters are designed to operate on a specific pressure. Adding a filter would probably create an operating issue which could create a dangerous situation. Also altering any equipment that has been certified is a big no no. Since propane is heavier than air it can build up at ground level and not self vent to the atmosphere in the event of a leak. Propane has the potential to be very dangerous if not given the respect it deserves. The blockage in the gas flow that the heater in the video had was created from assembly at the factory. If there is a problem with blockages due to contamination in the field you would need check the hose, regulator and fittings to find the source. I never experienced this but anything is possible. It’s a long answer but I wanted to make sure that anyone reading this understands not to alter any gas fired equipment. Thanks for checking out the video and posting a great question. Roger
@@repairitdontwreckit4257thanks!
can u reset the tilt switch
Hi richardmr. For some reason I missed your question. The tilt switch cannot be reset manually. I’m not quite sure but I believe it’s like a mercury. switch in the old style thermostats. The way you re- set the switch is by putting the patio heater in the vertical position. In the vertical position the switch should be closed allowing the heater run. If it tests open in the vertical position and all wires and connections are good it is defective and should be replaced. I know it’s late but others may benefit from reading the comments. Thanks for posting. Roger
It's always fun to go behind China and fix everything they make. Why don't we just make it ourselves here the first time?