As a combatant, Ace is insanely underrated by the One Piece community. I'd chalk it down to how haki is poorly portrayed pre timeskip, but we know he was able to clash against fighters like Yamato and Aokiji and before his time with Whitebeard also fought Jinbe for days with seemingly no haki and won. And the Ace Novels gas the heck out of Ace but people can never agree with themselves whether to take it into consideration or not. Side Note: It really annoys me that the guy always carries around a sword but NEVER uses it
I mean, Ace clashing with Yamato, Aokiji and Akainu should mean he had an equal haki to them, and they have advanced armament haki. In the novel during his 100th fight against Whitebeard Marco even said Ace had reached a level beyond any Whitebeard commanders if I recall correctly.
Personally I felt like the Paramount war was a soft-intro to haki, as people were constantly hitting/interacting w the logia admirals. It shows basically what haki looks like to people who can’t see it. Basically every high level person there is confirmed to use haki, so everyone who fights and damages them also does. Just my idea
Ace easily had the most potential in the entire series but he had to die for plot, if not he’d be a straight beast and would’ve arguably surpassed Roger, imagine if he’d awakened his df and trained his haki
If ace didnt get destroyed by monsters like BB or Akainu his potential in influence could've been as good as Luffy or even greater. Also like how you tackled the topic about how base haki alone doesn't mean you're above everyone as Luffy as beaten haki users pre ts with gears, robin with black maria, and choppers hurts queen all without haki.
He could use all three types of advanced haki had a powerful logia fruit and was good at hand-to-hand combat he could have led the generation of Pirates but he died and never reached his full potential
@Gerardo Covarrubias advanced haki and being able to use all 3 forms of haki are 2 completely different things. We actually only ever see ace use conquers when he's a child out of instinct. We never see him use any form of advanced armament or observation.
Ace definitely wasn’t a push over, in the Ace spin off he literally straight up uses Future sight to see that if WB hit him he’d be knocked out and dodged him instead and according to thatch Ace relied on Armament and his fruit in the grandline and new world until he met them which imo says volumes about Aces Armament Haki, he was also just casually clashing with WB which that alone says enough, he’s definitely in the right hand tier of fighters which Was why him being defeated was supposed to be so crazy
It's a downright shame that you have so few subs man! Just keep putting out top tier content like this and you'll be in the reverie collab vids with guys like King of Lightning, BDA Law and Ohara etc.. in no time. You havr a rare type of neutral perspective in most of your videos that is sadly lacking in the OP youtube community/fandom. Being able to convince people like me that the years of "Naruto characters solo entire OP verse" propoganda isn't true is testament to that I think!
Yeah his power scalling is great, really nicely put and very calming voice, maybe if he branches out to other aspects of the series outside of power scalling (while still doing powerscalling videos obviously) he would get more attention.
I've had this theory for the longest time that haki had elemental properties. We know ace's did not sure about others, but it would kinda explain why things get goofy when Luffy is around. To my knowledge no one has described luffy's haki yet. I can't wait to see if this "elemental" theory of mine is true or not.
I've stated before numerous times that Ace must have imbued his haki into his flame abilities, but people would call me crazy or in my head canon. How else is he able to make his flames solid to the point of an actual fist crushing through things. It's the only way that he was able to clash with Akainu as well.
yes, i agree fully, also same for sabo's flame attacks that dont just burn things but also smash through things like a solid object, haki explains that perfectly rather than what i assumed before that fire works differently in op universe, your explanation for sure is better. I can also apply this to other things like kaido's blast breath
The thing i love about one piece is that almost everything is ”match up” based. Somebody could have amazing haki bit still lose to a devil fruit user. Haki is not insta win, it just means that u got a chance to beat someone
People forget Luffy confirmed he could not veat Ace even after his fruit This seems unimpressive if you think hes talking about when they were kids, but actually they kept training until Luffy was 15, and then Ace left That is INSANE considering Luffy was rubber and by the age of 15 he had to have gotten very very strong Ace being SO MUCH STRONGER that he could defeat him even without being able to damage Luffy is CRAZY His phisical strenght is serious business AND THEN you add a logia and haki to that Theres a reason rookie Ace tied with Jinbe Ace was not a first commander but he wasnt that far
Exactly, Ace is so underrated, people compared him to Queen but he scales above him, if anything, he is more comparable to current Sanji who scales above King and Queen, he is also very combarable to Marco
ACE also demonstrated advanced observation haki in his fight against WB in novel and i think thats the very reason why the bullets of BB sniper who is obviously a haki user were passing through him.
Right, he was able to predict WB attacks and glimpse into the future if it would kill him or not lol. He was really strong. It was stated to be his weakest haki type as well, with his strongest aptitude being in armament haki. They even said he was reliant on it while he was training them before his WB fights. At the end of the day he was a second division commander putting him at the very least being around the level of queen and other number 2s of a yankou crew. He was the number 2 with the most potential though as other yonkou commanders are old. Would not really be surprised if he made yonkou following the timeskip had he survived. He was probably one of the people with the highest potentials in the series, hence why the government really prioritized him, fearing that blood line. His quick rise was what clued them into him being rogers son, which is a testament to how quick his growth rate was even when considering the fact he had a logia.
they do use haki with flames, assuming the reason that the fire he uses can smash through things like a solid object is because it has haki infused, but it isn't depicted as turning it black
i think the description of his haki being like flame isn't because his haki has elemental effects. If you look at how Issho the blind admiral sees Sabo is flames in the shape of a human. Benn Beckman's haki was strong enough to see Ace's devil fruit nature is my take from that. What should be noted however is that Beckman would have just mentioned Ace's a flame logia, the fact that he went to extrapolate how flame like Ace's haki really was is more a testament to just how much control Ace had with his devil fruit and his power from it, as in Ace probably fully awakened his logia powers already, which would then explain the change in weathers in both cases, since logia awakening can alter climate.
I once had a debate against a guy because he was saying that Gaara from the 4th ninja war, could beat the current crocodile, the problem here is what if the opponent of the logia can control the element he turns into, for example gaara who controls all types of sand, so crocodile every time he turns into sand can be controlled by gaara, or so it is presupposed, and even so if gaara could control crocodile's sand, this would really give him a great advantage or even the victory by that fact alone, I have seen animations and debates on youtube and several place crocodile as the winner because he has his other ability which is to dry everything to death. I would like you to make a video about that (of course if you haven't already I really am new to your channel). about what would happen to a logia if their opponent can manipulate their element, like say characters from boku no hero who can control ice or fire, or characters from avatar the last airbender who some can control magma. that would be the only way a logia would be threatened in another manga universe.
What I find wild is that the Whitebeard Pirates is the ONLY crew where the second commander is stronger than the first ....... and it happened TWICE But then again, who would expect the Chad that calls his moustache a beard to follow logical numerical conventions?
I remember reading somewhere that in the ace light novel, when ace fought a vice admiral at sabaody he displayed armament Haki, is that true? If it's not he probably still picked it up while he was with whitebeard crew On another note when ace met Yamato was that before or after he joined whitebeard?
he met Yamato before joining WB and yes he used armament on the vice admiral and beat him with that alone he also used observation haki against WB and WB himself said how talented he was at using it and ends up burning his hand Ace is insanely underrated in the community
Very late reply but yes the first time Ace awoke Arnament Haki was when he first arrived to Sabody as the Spade Pirates Captain (probably still in his first year of piracy). He used it unconsciously against a Vice Admiral when his flames weren’t working on him (because the Vice Admiral had Haki) and defeated the Vice Admiral.
Do you think natsu vs ace death battle was right? Can natsu eat ace since natsu can eat fire and ace can turn into fire? Can natsu harm ace with his fire since ace is fire logia and natsu has no haki?
@@emperorluffy6001 are you dumb nastu literally burned through time before and nastu is universal ace is like continental or multi country ace stands no chance
for some reason i couldnt find the "how strong is gear 5 luffy" video but I have a question on it, I agree with all of your reasoning but why couldn't luffy destroy the boat in fishman island when he was way more than boat level? (edit I just didnt realize you changed the thumbnail)
undrestand this: BB is 2nd comander level without a fruit (he refused the position) and he was also able to scar SHANKS who was on guard PRE FRUIT (the feat by default couldnt have been when they were children cause shanks wouldnt bother to warn WB if he was weak). furthermore as a rookie he is seen clashing with yamato who has COC/RYUO and besting jimbei only to furhter get up and chalenge WB. he is the strongest second comander by far and away no second comander even comes close to aces dai enkai, queens strongest attack is a wallmart version of kumas lasers while smothie is borderline garbage. ace himself states the rest of the worst generation are nothing compared to him which is proven seeing as it took law/kid YEARS to reach sabody while ace/luffy did it in a few months, he is also the only person besides the MC/NIKA that the WG are willing to go to war with a YONKO to kill. the most powerfulll/important people have gassed aces power and potential which is why his death changed the entire storys dificulty level for luffy.
@@almalayuwiyyah2512 NO. Ace started 3 years before luffy and he reached wano aproximatelly in a year and he tells yamato that kid/law/bege are making names for themselves in the rest of the BLUES. that means they already started their journey atleast 2 years before luffy and it took them 3 to reach sabody from the BLUES. do the math.
I've been seeing people calling BlackBeard weak saying he's weaker than Luffy. When Blackbeard pre time skip was already yonko commander level. That was also without the world ending Gura Gura no Mi. Just from a narrative standpoint BB will have to be more powerful than Luffy.
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Hey I have a question about Luffy blunt attack durability what it Goku or superman punch Luffy does it effect. Let say might guy 8th gate or kcm Naruto punching toneri?
Luffy is straight up immune blunt attacks think of it as super man or goku punching plastic man in the face or Tom and jerry obviously punching plastic man and Tom and Jerry is out of the question if they kamehameha or super man laser eyes it might go through him but I don’t think it will kill him unless you’re talking about base Luffy 🤔
@@ramsankar4578 depends which luffy and super man we’re talking if it’s base maybe he might punch through his face if it’s gear 5 probably not 🤔goku best thing to do is probably hakai him but I don’t think he will do that
I think if Ace wasn’t deprived of food and badly injured before the War of the Best he would have been able to walk out of there. In all honesty it was Luffy being gassed that stopped them from escaping if Luffy was just a tad bit stronger it would have gone off without a hitch. Tbh I think Ace didn’t take Blackbeard seriously enough in their encounter and didn’t realise how much the darkness was diminishing his strength until it was too late for him to do anything and Blackbeard even though he may have been weaker or close to Ace’s strength at the time took advantage. I’d say Ace is comparable to Sabo or stronger but unfortunately we never got to see it. He needed to die for the story to continue.
Ace is the same level as the admirals. Off course the minority one piece fans who think admiral = emperors would disagree. He has all three haki, logia devil fruit and it's fire which is crazy strong, clashed with aojiki and won that clash. Fought with yamato who is dangerously powerful and made kaido bleed with a BLUNT weapon. Plus he would get stronger as the series continues. So if yamato can fight with kaido but will lose then ace should be able to do the same but at that point would be stronger than yamato.
@@Khaled68335 they are relative I think, so ace fighting yamato and scaling to almost as strong as marco means that he would probably be like YC2 or around queen??
@@joejoe-vm1fj Queen or any second commander are not close to Marco level though, I scale ace way higher than Queen and Any yonko Commanders expect current Sanji and all First commanders
He didn't fight to a standstill. From what I understand Ace convinced Smoker that if they were to fight it wouldn't get anywhere, which was a very smart move since Ace was solo hunting Teech at the time and would not want to be on the Marine HQ radar if that makes sense.
Ace didn't just lose to anybody it took the same black beard that was able to scar shanks to beat him and then died to the nigga who became the next fleet admiral like come on now Ace is not weak at all. It's like jogo from Jjk his match ups just wasn't fair at all
Former pirate king 😂 you mean the Pirate King nobody ever took Rogers place not even Whitebeard but know WhiteBeard never wanted to be the King of the Pirates
Well to be fair we dont know exactly how Blackbeard beat Ace. He mightve ganged on him with his entire crew. Perhaps Ace WON the finally exchange but BBs crew cheapshots a weakened Ace from behind by Van Augur shooting him with a season bullet etc..
lol you really high ball him using non canon stuff and fanfiction. just stick to manga lil bro. you can say he is yc3+ level. saying he above jinbei is massive cap. full powered jinbei is underwater jinbei and ace stalemate not that type of jinbei. if you wanna higball him than make him equal to jinbei. yc3+ level-yc2-
Ace is strong, but not stronger than Ivankov's thick makeup. Jokes aside, despite multiple characters pointed out how powerful and talented ace was pre time skip (and pre devil fruit), his fighting strategy basically boiled down to 'throw as many flames as possible at your foe'. Which didn't work well against blackbeard that can nullify df power, or akainu that can straight up eat his flames for breakfast
I was debating ace soloing the narutoverse with someone and they couldn’t find a way to beat ace so they said a naruto character could just unlock haki to beat him, naruto fans just can’t accept one piece verse is stronger
I'm not a huge Naruto fan, but c'mon bro ace is soloing the whole verse? I would like to know why they can't seal him like they did with Edos or use Water Prison Justus like Zabuza did against Kakashi.
@@mastername5373sea stone is their weakness. Not water. But I’d imagine water is a natural enemy to fire. Maybe water style users on the level of kisame could contain and drown out the power of ace? That’s assuming he can’t just boil the water and evaporate it. He is flame itself
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As a combatant, Ace is insanely underrated by the One Piece community. I'd chalk it down to how haki is poorly portrayed pre timeskip, but we know he was able to clash against fighters like Yamato and Aokiji and before his time with Whitebeard also fought Jinbe for days with seemingly no haki and won. And the Ace Novels gas the heck out of Ace but people can never agree with themselves whether to take it into consideration or not.
Side Note: It really annoys me that the guy always carries around a sword but NEVER uses it
Exactly, ace is extremely underrated
I only see ace losing to the yonko’s Admirals and the yonko right hands and that’s it
I mean, Ace clashing with Yamato, Aokiji and Akainu should mean he had an equal haki to them, and they have advanced armament haki.
In the novel during his 100th fight against Whitebeard Marco even said Ace had reached a level beyond any Whitebeard commanders if I recall correctly.
Personally I felt like the Paramount war was a soft-intro to haki, as people were constantly hitting/interacting w the logia admirals. It shows basically what haki looks like to people who can’t see it. Basically every high level person there is confirmed to use haki, so everyone who fights and damages them also does. Just my idea
Ace easily had the most potential in the entire series but he had to die for plot, if not he’d be a straight beast and would’ve arguably surpassed Roger, imagine if he’d awakened his df and trained his haki
Sabo will carry on his legacy
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If ace didnt get destroyed by monsters like BB or Akainu his potential in influence could've been as good as Luffy or even greater. Also like how you tackled the topic about how base haki alone doesn't mean you're above everyone as Luffy as beaten haki users pre ts with gears, robin with black maria, and choppers hurts queen all without haki.
Man, imagine if Ace was still around and he Luffy and Sabo teamed up for the final war
The Gorosei would be Sh*tting themselves
He could use all three types of advanced haki had a powerful logia fruit and was good at hand-to-hand combat he could have led the generation of Pirates but he died and never reached his full potential
When did he use any type of advanced Haki? He barely ever used conquerors on screen
It was confirmed by ODA that he could use all three types of haki
@Gerardo Covarrubias advanced haki and being able to use all 3 forms of haki are 2 completely different things. We actually only ever see ace use conquers when he's a child out of instinct. We never see him use any form of advanced armament or observation.
Will oda confirmed it so
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 oda Confirmed he had all 3 he has the basic versions of all 3
Ace definitely wasn’t a push over, in the Ace spin off he literally straight up uses Future sight to see that if WB hit him he’d be knocked out and dodged him instead and according to thatch Ace relied on Armament and his fruit in the grandline and new world until he met them which imo says volumes about Aces Armament Haki, he was also just casually clashing with WB which that alone says enough, he’s definitely in the right hand tier of fighters which Was why him being defeated was supposed to be so crazy
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Yk what future sight is right ?
New editing looks amazing this was way more than worth the wait!
I wish we could see how Ace grows and becomes at least one of the Yonkos!!! I even created him his new epithet "Fire Dragon" Ace!!
It's a downright shame that you have so few subs man! Just keep putting out top tier content like this and you'll be in the reverie collab vids with guys like King of Lightning, BDA Law and Ohara etc.. in no time.
You havr a rare type of neutral perspective in most of your videos that is sadly lacking in the OP youtube community/fandom. Being able to convince people like me that the years of "Naruto characters solo entire OP verse" propoganda isn't true is testament to that I think!
Yeah his power scalling is great, really nicely put and very calming voice, maybe if he branches out to other aspects of the series outside of power scalling (while still doing powerscalling videos obviously) he would get more attention.
I've had this theory for the longest time that haki had elemental properties. We know ace's did not sure about others, but it would kinda explain why things get goofy when Luffy is around. To my knowledge no one has described luffy's haki yet. I can't wait to see if this "elemental" theory of mine is true or not.
I've stated before numerous times that Ace must have imbued his haki into his flame abilities, but people would call me crazy or in my head canon.
How else is he able to make his flames solid to the point of an actual fist crushing through things. It's the only way that he was able to clash with Akainu as well.
yes, i agree fully, also same for sabo's flame attacks that dont just burn things but also smash through things like a solid object, haki explains that perfectly rather than what i assumed before that fire works differently in op universe, your explanation for sure is better. I can also apply this to other things like kaido's blast breath
I guess you could say this video was fire.
This new editing is clean bro!!!
Great video 🙏🏼 waiting for many more keep it up 🤞🏼
I personally put him one 1st or 2nd commander level as power. Around the same strength as current Sanji I would say
he is not boxing with sanji stop rn
if ace is mc he is strong as luffy SABO AND ACE is much stronger to luffy remember ace became so famous even just 2years exploring the sea
My goat
The thing i love about one piece is that almost everything is ”match up” based. Somebody could have amazing haki bit still lose to a devil fruit user.
Haki is not insta win, it just means that u got a chance to beat someone
yeah, observation isn't always better than just having more speed, arnament isn't always better than having more strength, devil fruits aside
Bro, the algorithm needs to blow up your channel already bruh
People forget Luffy confirmed he could not veat Ace even after his fruit
This seems unimpressive if you think hes talking about when they were kids, but actually they kept training until Luffy was 15, and then Ace left
That is INSANE considering Luffy was rubber and by the age of 15 he had to have gotten very very strong
Ace being SO MUCH STRONGER that he could defeat him even without being able to damage Luffy is CRAZY
His phisical strenght is serious business AND THEN you add a logia and haki to that
Theres a reason rookie Ace tied with Jinbe
Ace was not a first commander but he wasnt that far
A malnourished Ace went up against aokiji that too pre time skip, i think that should tell us about his strength
Finally someone who actually uses facts and does research
Exactly, Ace is so underrated, people compared him to Queen but he scales above him, if anything, he is more comparable to current Sanji who scales above King and Queen, he is also very combarable to Marco
aces potential was through the roof if he would have lived he would easily be yonko lvl.
Another goated video, keep up the great work!
Where did you get that panel of Jimbei saying that Ace surpassed him. I dont remember that from the novel or even the manga?
ACE also demonstrated advanced observation haki in his fight against WB in novel and i think thats the very reason why the bullets of BB sniper who is obviously a haki user were passing through him.
Right, he was able to predict WB attacks and glimpse into the future if it would kill him or not lol. He was really strong. It was stated to be his weakest haki type as well, with his strongest aptitude being in armament haki. They even said he was reliant on it while he was training them before his WB fights. At the end of the day he was a second division commander putting him at the very least being around the level of queen and other number 2s of a yankou crew. He was the number 2 with the most potential though as other yonkou commanders are old. Would not really be surprised if he made yonkou following the timeskip had he survived. He was probably one of the people with the highest potentials in the series, hence why the government really prioritized him, fearing that blood line. His quick rise was what clued them into him being rogers son, which is a testament to how quick his growth rate was even when considering the fact he had a logia.
Ace (and now Sabo) could theoretically create "black" flames with armament haki i'm surprised the idea has not yet been entertained.
they do use haki with flames, assuming the reason that the fire he uses can smash through things like a solid object is because it has haki infused, but it isn't depicted as turning it black
Technically haki has no color, except for black blade
Blacked just emphasises the use of it so that viewers can distinguish it
Respect ace vid 👌
i think the description of his haki being like flame isn't because his haki has elemental effects. If you look at how Issho the blind admiral sees Sabo is flames in the shape of a human. Benn Beckman's haki was strong enough to see Ace's devil fruit nature is my take from that. What should be noted however is that Beckman would have just mentioned Ace's a flame logia, the fact that he went to extrapolate how flame like Ace's haki really was is more a testament to just how much control Ace had with his devil fruit and his power from it, as in Ace probably fully awakened his logia powers already, which would then explain the change in weathers in both cases, since logia awakening can alter climate.
I once had a debate against a guy because he was saying that Gaara from the 4th ninja war, could beat the current crocodile, the problem here is what if the opponent of the logia can control the element he turns into, for example gaara who controls all types of sand, so crocodile every time he turns into sand can be controlled by gaara, or so it is presupposed, and even so if gaara could control crocodile's sand, this would really give him a great advantage or even the victory by that fact alone, I have seen animations and debates on youtube and several place crocodile as the winner because he has his other ability which is to dry everything to death.
I would like you to make a video about that (of course if you haven't already I really am new to your channel).
about what would happen to a logia if their opponent can manipulate their element, like say characters from boku no hero who can control ice or fire, or characters from avatar the last airbender who some can control magma. that would be the only way a logia would be threatened in another manga universe.
Props to mentioning Yamato vs Ace. People that downplay always seem to forget that him and ace fought.
You should do a video on Sanji vs King
Can you do sabo next?pleeese🥹🥹🥹
editing looking clean
But maybe there is a clone of ace after the war that doctor vegapunk made
my favorite character when i loved the manga the most
Hi. I think it would be good you did ' how strong was Arlong ' or/and ' how strong are the pacifista '
Ace had:
All 3 hakis
Strong fruit
Strong lineage
Will of D.
Strong crewmates
Strong captain
Ace had (almost) everything luffy didn't had
What I find wild is that the Whitebeard Pirates is the ONLY crew where the second commander is stronger than the first ....... and it happened TWICE
But then again, who would expect the Chad that calls his moustache a beard to follow logical numerical conventions?
The WB commanders aren't based on strength by number, but Whitebeard is indeed a very handsome chad
Marco>ace
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I'm looking forward for new future videos
I remember reading somewhere that in the ace light novel, when ace fought a vice admiral at sabaody he displayed armament Haki, is that true? If it's not he probably still picked it up while he was with whitebeard crew
On another note when ace met Yamato was that before or after he joined whitebeard?
he met Yamato before joining WB and yes he used armament on the vice admiral and beat him with that alone he also used observation haki against WB and WB himself said how talented he was at using it and ends up burning his hand Ace is insanely underrated in the community
Very late reply but yes the first time Ace awoke Arnament Haki was when he first arrived to Sabody as the Spade Pirates Captain (probably still in his first year of piracy). He used it unconsciously against a Vice Admiral when his flames weren’t working on him (because the Vice Admiral had Haki) and defeated the Vice Admiral.
@@lordpopo8306 thanks
Do you think natsu vs ace death battle was right?
Can natsu eat ace since natsu can eat fire and ace can turn into fire?
Can natsu harm ace with his fire since ace is fire logia and natsu has no haki?
No. Natsu can't eat Ace because Ace can just choose not to be fire. Ace has physical strength and Haki to beat Natsu down with.
@@emperorluffy6001 are you dumb nastu literally burned through time before and nastu is universal ace is like continental or multi country ace stands no chance
Do a video on the goro goro no mi or kid's jiki jiki no mi?
I love your videos 😊
Let’s go do marco and jozu next
Steinixos would Obito be able to win in the op verse against anyone, feel like kamui is pretty broken
for some reason i couldnt find the "how strong is gear 5 luffy" video but I have a question on it, I agree with all of your reasoning but why couldn't luffy destroy the boat in fishman island when he was way more than boat level? (edit I just didnt realize you changed the thumbnail)
Let's goo🔥🍩
Love to see it
undrestand this: BB is 2nd comander level without a fruit (he refused the position) and he was also able to scar SHANKS who was on guard PRE FRUIT (the feat by default couldnt have been when they were children cause shanks wouldnt bother to warn WB if he was weak). furthermore as a rookie he is seen clashing with yamato who has COC/RYUO and besting jimbei only to furhter get up and chalenge WB. he is the strongest second comander by far and away no second comander even comes close to aces dai enkai, queens strongest attack is a wallmart version of kumas lasers while smothie is borderline garbage. ace himself states the rest of the worst generation are nothing compared to him which is proven seeing as it took law/kid YEARS to reach sabody while ace/luffy did it in a few months, he is also the only person besides the MC/NIKA that the WG are willing to go to war with a YONKO to kill. the most powerfulll/important people have gassed aces power and potential which is why his death changed the entire storys dificulty level for luffy.
dont be capping. whole worst gen jnourney happened at the same time. they all go to grandline at the same time. reach sabaody at the same time
@@almalayuwiyyah2512 NO. Ace started 3 years before luffy and he reached wano aproximatelly in a year and he tells yamato that kid/law/bege are making names for themselves in the rest of the BLUES. that means they already started their journey atleast 2 years before luffy and it took them 3 to reach sabody from the BLUES. do the math.
Absolute W video
2:22 smoker at the time destroyed luffy even whithout the need of a devil fruit
What happened to the how strong king, queen, and Jack videos
Gonna re-work them
Goat
Good video
I've been seeing people calling BlackBeard weak saying he's weaker than Luffy.
When Blackbeard pre time skip was already yonko commander level. That was also without the world ending Gura Gura no Mi. Just from a narrative standpoint BB will have to be more powerful than Luffy.
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If you know about demon slayer.could you do video about 9 hashira vs one piece character with similar power?
-King the wildfire vs rengoku(fire)
-Jinbei vs giyuu(water)
-Black maria vs shinobu(insect)
-Hancock vs mitsuri(love)
-Smoker vs muichiro(mist)
-Pica vs gyomei(stone)
-Apoo vs tengen uzui(sound)
-Monkey d dragon vs sanemi(wind)
-Kurozumi orochi vs obanai(snake)
I get tired of one piece vs naruto/bleach debate and i rarely see one piece vs demon slayer debate
Demon slayer verse gets absolutely destroyed by the op verse not even close
@@cethsui none of one piece character can kill demon king tanjiro
@jasmine gobuster their all one side ansmd each one of those one piece characters solo the ds verse
@@OtsutsukiMelvyn only yonko level and admiral level character who can solo demon slayer verse
Bro, the hashiras are gonna fucking die 💀
Luffy's first logia opponent is Smoker
Hey I have a question about Luffy blunt attack durability what it Goku or superman punch Luffy does it effect. Let say might guy 8th gate or kcm Naruto punching toneri?
Luffy is dying if super man is punching him
superman and goku punch is killing luffy.
8th gate and kcm Naruto's aren't. There is vast difference between these two bruh.
Luffy is straight up immune blunt attacks think of it as super man or goku punching plastic man in the face or Tom and jerry obviously punching plastic man and Tom and Jerry is out of the question if they kamehameha or super man laser eyes it might go through him but I don’t think it will kill him unless you’re talking about base Luffy 🤔
@@BLACKQUEEN1ON1 depends which luffy and super man we’re talking if it’s base maybe he might punch through his face if it’s gear 5 probably not 🤔
@@ramsankar4578 depends which luffy and super man we’re talking if it’s base maybe he might punch through his face if it’s gear 5 probably not 🤔goku best thing to do is probably hakai him but I don’t think he will do that
Yamato didn't train for the 4 years wasn't she in prison ?
I think if Ace wasn’t deprived of food and badly injured before the War of the Best he would have been able to walk out of there. In all honesty it was Luffy being gassed that stopped them from escaping if Luffy was just a tad bit stronger it would have gone off without a hitch.
Tbh I think Ace didn’t take Blackbeard seriously enough in their encounter and didn’t realise how much the darkness was diminishing his strength until it was too late for him to do anything and Blackbeard even though he may have been weaker or close to Ace’s strength at the time took advantage. I’d say Ace is comparable to Sabo or stronger but unfortunately we never got to see it. He needed to die for the story to continue.
Ace is the same level as the admirals. Off course the minority one piece fans who think admiral = emperors would disagree. He has all three haki, logia devil fruit and it's fire which is crazy strong, clashed with aojiki and won that clash. Fought with yamato who is dangerously powerful and made kaido bleed with a BLUNT weapon. Plus he would get stronger as the series continues. So if yamato can fight with kaido but will lose then ace should be able to do the same but at that point would be stronger than yamato.
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Ussop vs Ace is high Dif. fight😀
would he scale to marco because they are compared in strength?
Nah, he still weaker than Marco based on portrayal and feats
@@Khaled68335 they are relative I think, so ace fighting yamato and scaling to almost as strong as marco means that he would probably be like YC2 or around queen??
@@joejoe-vm1fj Queen or any second commander are not close to Marco level though, I scale ace way higher than Queen and Any yonko Commanders expect current Sanji and all First commanders
@@Khaled68335 marine Ford Ace and Marco have relative feats actually, ntm fighting WB directly so it’s definitely Marco>=Ace
I’m still confused how he fought smoker to a stand still with haki
He didn't fight to a standstill. From what I understand Ace convinced Smoker that if they were to fight it wouldn't get anywhere, which was a very smart move since Ace was solo hunting Teech at the time and would not want to be on the Marine HQ radar if that makes sense.
He could have been the strongest if he didn’t have to die for the plot
How strong was* ace?
*was
Was*
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Ace didn't just lose to anybody it took the same black beard that was able to scar shanks to beat him and then died to the nigga who became the next fleet admiral like come on now Ace is not weak at all. It's like jogo from Jjk his match ups just wasn't fair at all
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Stronger than Katakuri
Luffy said he never was able to beat Ace than he added he could beat him now tho
I mean he did say that but it was clearly goofy bragging.
@@scleless1342 luffy already surpassed ace after he defeated Katakuri
He's dead , whats the point talking about someone who wont appear ?
not strong enough to escape marineford alive
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You mean was
Not strong enough to take a "yo daddy" joke. That's for sure
Former pirate king 😂 you mean the Pirate King nobody ever took Rogers place not even Whitebeard but know WhiteBeard never wanted to be the King of the Pirates
you mean how strong was ace💀
Ace>Marco,kat,king
Ace was strong i will say but he was no where near big mom or kaido. And after 1000 episodes i can say Luffy has surpassed ace.
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Long story short, not strong enough!
before the start of the video, I predict early post timeskip luffy
He's dead
Not stronger than black beard or the Admiral
Well to be fair we dont know exactly how Blackbeard beat Ace. He mightve ganged on him with his entire crew. Perhaps Ace WON the finally exchange but BBs crew cheapshots a weakened Ace from behind by Van Augur shooting him with a season bullet etc..
And not stronger than any of the first commanders either
lol you really high ball him using non canon stuff and fanfiction. just stick to manga lil bro. you can say he is yc3+ level. saying he above jinbei is massive cap. full powered jinbei is underwater jinbei and ace stalemate not that type of jinbei. if you wanna higball him than make him equal to jinbei. yc3+ level-yc2-
Ace is strong, but not stronger than Ivankov's thick makeup.
Jokes aside, despite multiple characters pointed out how powerful and talented ace was pre time skip (and pre devil fruit), his fighting strategy basically boiled down to 'throw as many flames as possible at your foe'. Which didn't work well against blackbeard that can nullify df power, or akainu that can straight up eat his flames for breakfast
How strong "was" Ace would be a better title
I was debating ace soloing the narutoverse with someone and they couldn’t find a way to beat ace so they said a naruto character could just unlock haki to beat him, naruto fans just can’t accept one piece verse is stronger
Both verse are Batman victims
I'm not a huge Naruto fan, but c'mon bro ace is soloing the whole verse? I would like to know why they can't seal him like they did with Edos or use Water Prison Justus like Zabuza did against Kakashi.
@@mastername5373sea stone is their weakness. Not water. But I’d imagine water is a natural enemy to fire. Maybe water style users on the level of kisame could contain and drown out the power of ace? That’s assuming he can’t just boil the water and evaporate it. He is flame itself
He would lose to any Uchiha and absolutely wouldn’t solo the verse that’s ridiculous
@@mastername5373 water only makes devil fruit users weaker not kill them
not strong enough to last to the timeskip 😭🍩
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How strong “WAS" Portgas D.Ace?
Ace was dog water, got one shot. b tier AT BEST.