i remember popping my dads trunk on the fastback project and there was just a hole in the floor. turns out he didnt have the tank in yet. nuts that design even got approved
The Pinto was no more dangerous than most of the cars of that time! The explosion video was actually from a UCLA study where they attached an incendiary charge to the bottom of the gas tank to test how fire would affect the passenger compartments in a crash. They ran several crash tests but they couldn't get it to ignite so they stuck a little fire bomb to the gas tank. NBC's DATELINE found this video and ran it on their show while claiming it came from Ford's own testing department and insinuated that Ford knew the Pinto was an explosive death trap. And so the stigma stuck. 7:59
I had a '70s Pinto for several years in the early '90s. Yes they fixed it, with a half inch thick ABS plate that surrounded the fuel tank. No one came close to my rear end, ever.
worst case scenario this... usually its stuff like; rust in steering column. faulty relay software bugs this is why some manufacturers have simcard in their fleet to ota many issues. if you want cheap cutting edge its gonna be "early adopter syndrome" this is why i never buy a new car.
I would say that one reason for recalls has to do with the fact that cars are very, very complicated systems with hundreds of thousands of individual parts. Sometimes recalls happen due to bad batches from suppliers, not necessarily due to the design of the vehicle.
@@nicomotor I can imagine. I know that recall came out years ago, but it affected pretty much everyone. Hopefully there aren’t any newer vehicles being affected.
The real question is why recalls dont happen all the time? There are so many mfg defects that will "total" a car that never get any recall or even a limited TSB. There are lots of cars that have engines or major drive train parts that will just fail because of poor design and customers get no compensation or free repairs. Spend $30K on a car and then it dies within 5 years from design or manufacturing failures.
You make a fair point. Why some defects are classified as a "safety defect" or not is something I don't understand either but it's because of that distinction that some items are recalled while others simple become issues you pay for at the dealership every time it fails
I suspect "C's get degrees" is a much bigger and more real part of the problem than your joke imagines. And I'll bet it goes beyond car companies. Like, all those problems Boeing's been having? 😑
Could be right there. Boeing is definitely having problems throughout the business, not just the engineers and maintenance. Wendover Productions made a great video on that topic
@@nicomotor That Wendover video was what recently got me thinking about it. We're all under the impression that "people who know what they're doing" or "people smarter than us" are at the helm doing the important work of the world. And while that may be true, it's also possible that the some devolution has genuinely crept in (the "people smarter than us" are no longer smarter than us to the degree they used to be). There's also the myth that somehow the world is run by people unimaginably smart and adept, when in reality humans are all a lot more alike than we think.
I don't doubt that some about of devolution has take place. Not sure if there is enough to have such massive impacts on the quality of products, I suspect it has more to do with economics, but you're right about the myth that the world is run by people unimaginably smart and adept. The reality is just that they tend to be specialized in a specific field, having spent much time and energy becoming experts in one field, rather than learning comparatively little across a wide scope of fields.
I will tell you why it happens. They build car to break. And they miscalculate how quickly they break.
i remember popping my dads trunk on the fastback project and there was just a hole in the floor. turns out he didnt have the tank in yet. nuts that design even got approved
Great video, very thought out! The reminder at 7:00 isnt necessary😃
Glad you enjoyed! I'll leave that kind of thing out for the next video
My mom had a late 70s Pinto when i was born. We rolled around in that stupid thing for like 6 years before it gave up the ghost.
great video!!
Thank you! It pushed the dedotated wam in my laptop to the limit
The Pinto was no more dangerous than most of the cars of that time! The explosion video was actually from a UCLA study where they attached an incendiary charge to the bottom of the gas tank to test how fire would affect the passenger compartments in a crash. They ran several crash tests but they couldn't get it to ignite so they stuck a little fire bomb to the gas tank.
NBC's DATELINE found this video and ran it on their show while claiming it came from Ford's own testing department and insinuated that Ford knew the Pinto was an explosive death trap. And so the stigma stuck. 7:59
Ok that is new news to me. I'm going to look into this
Yep my 2021 F150 has a recall for the firewall insulation igniting because of engine heat
I had a '70s Pinto for several years in the early '90s. Yes they fixed it, with a half inch thick ABS plate that surrounded the fuel tank.
No one came close to my rear end, ever.
worst case scenario this... usually its stuff like;
rust in steering column.
faulty relay
software bugs
this is why some manufacturers have simcard in their fleet to ota many issues. if you want cheap cutting edge its gonna be "early adopter syndrome" this is why i never buy a new car.
I would say that one reason for recalls has to do with the fact that cars are very, very complicated systems with hundreds of thousands of individual parts. Sometimes recalls happen due to bad batches from suppliers, not necessarily due to the design of the vehicle.
You're not wrong. Takata is certainly proving that to be true right now
@@nicomotor Are they *still* having issues?
@@StolenJoker84 I think they're still in the process of getting all the affected cars fixed but it's been a while since I checked
@@nicomotor I can imagine. I know that recall came out years ago, but it affected pretty much everyone. Hopefully there aren’t any newer vehicles being affected.
love to see it!!!
The real question is why recalls dont happen all the time?
There are so many mfg defects that will "total" a car that never get any recall or even a limited TSB. There are lots of cars that have engines or major drive train parts that will just fail because of poor design and customers get no compensation or free repairs. Spend $30K on a car and then it dies within 5 years from design or manufacturing failures.
You make a fair point. Why some defects are classified as a "safety defect" or not is something I don't understand either but it's because of that distinction that some items are recalled while others simple become issues you pay for at the dealership every time it fails
The share holders seen cost then moral of sue!
I suspect "C's get degrees" is a much bigger and more real part of the problem than your joke imagines. And I'll bet it goes beyond car companies. Like, all those problems Boeing's been having? 😑
Could be right there. Boeing is definitely having problems throughout the business, not just the engineers and maintenance. Wendover Productions made a great video on that topic
@@nicomotor That Wendover video was what recently got me thinking about it. We're all under the impression that "people who know what they're doing" or "people smarter than us" are at the helm doing the important work of the world. And while that may be true, it's also possible that the some devolution has genuinely crept in (the "people smarter than us" are no longer smarter than us to the degree they used to be). There's also the myth that somehow the world is run by people unimaginably smart and adept, when in reality humans are all a lot more alike than we think.
I don't doubt that some about of devolution has take place. Not sure if there is enough to have such massive impacts on the quality of products, I suspect it has more to do with economics, but you're right about the myth that the world is run by people unimaginably smart and adept. The reality is just that they tend to be specialized in a specific field, having spent much time and energy becoming experts in one field, rather than learning comparatively little across a wide scope of fields.
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