There's another point which isn't being talked about much. These victims were mostly children living in care system. Can we do a better job of looking after children in the care system or preventing them from having to be taken into care so that they are less vulnerable to this kind of thing?
@ehilton. No, because private companies put those care homes into deprived areas, house prices are cheaper, and cheaper to run. You can’t have the Mibbie Tory areas being blighted by children in care can we?
Can you answer these questions: why are the ages, number count and names of the children never mentioned? Why is the issue relevant in the midst of an American and western-backed Israeli genocide that has killed 10000 times more children?
Yes... and WHY Musk thinks he is somehow entitled to interfere in British politics testifies to his delusions of grandeur. He's a rather sick individual.
I’m assuming you also didn’t agree with 100 Labour current & former staff members flying over to the states to help Biden & the conservatives with their campaign?
@JJamJ Have you seen the film Civil War? That's the kind of disruption Musk is trying to spread in the UK and wider Europe with his lies and disinformation on his so called free speech platform. That is in no way the same as a few Labour supporters helping out canvassing for the Democrat campaign. We've already seen in the UK how that can pan out.
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I’m planning on moving to Thailand in the next 5 years if trump’s government doesn’t do anything with the high prices of groceries and taxes What about you??
I think some people have missed the fact that most of these abusers ‘have’ been jailed. The scandal was originally that girls from very bad backgrounds were not believed and did not cope well as witnesses when the cases did go to court. Counter to Elon’s narrative the people he is attacking have done a lot to fix these issues in the past and are trying to implement more useful changes now, rather than wasting more time on new inquiries that simply tell us what we already know from previous inquiries. The only thing this government is pushing back on is this issue being used as an excuse for fuelling generalised racism and rioting, that’s why they have arrested people who have encouraged burning down immigrant centres and mosques (not just memes as Elon downplayed it). The government are more than happy to lock up grooming gangs, they are not defending them at all.
If a rich guy can rattle a government then that says alot about the government. The uk has had uninspiring weak chinned leadership for decades. So being rattled by a wealthy guy overseas just proves it. I do hope one day we are led by people and lesdership who are transparent, value driven and gets thibgs done by unlocking the potential of its people and the nation.
Actually I used to visit the Oldham area over 30 years ago quite regularly. Even then the police in the area were very suspect in their actions. I don't know anything about the girls, but I was told that a guy with his girlfriend were attract by a gang of black youths and when the guy complained to the police he was actually arrested himself for causing a disturbance! I've heard through the years about police when they are outnumbered not standing up to the law and it's quite common. I support Labour and think they are smeared too much when basically all they are doing is trying to put the country on a good footing, and are right up against it because of the financial situation of the country. Look at the NHS wrecked through the Tories and the money grabbing GP's.
If I know, living in France for almost 20 years, about the prosecutions and sentencing of those men in grooming gangs, about the subsequent inquiry and its conclusions, why doesn't everybdy else? What I haven't heard anything about is what action the Tories have taken/failed to take to change attitudes end ensure no repetition. That should be the focus of any inquiry.
What is the point in another inquiry when the last one took 7 years and none of the recommendations have been put in place by the Tories in the 2 years since the inquiry. Labour need to implement ALL recommendations. Cooper 3wanted to make it a criminal offence not to report abuse 10 years ago and the Tories refused to do that yet they now act all high and mighty is ridiculous. I've seen Farage and Tice say but it's much bigger than anyone ever knew and they claim 50 towns - the only references I can find of this is via the dodgy GBNEWS and we all know their agenda and their articles are behind a paywall which seems strange for someone so outraged and finally GBNEWS made this claim in Feb 2024 so 11 months of nothing from the Tories until Musk opens his gob and not they're appalled, it's sickening and the likes of Jenrick, Badenoch and Truss and their language and refusal to call out the Musk nonsense
I'm from Rotherham. How many times was the city mentioned in the report? Are white working class girls the wrong sort of victims for the labour party? Why were all these towns and cities under labour control?
You've certainly got a point. Though the previous enquiry only touched on this issue quite briefly. It doesn't look in detail at the decades of institutional failures which allowed this specific pattern of criminality to go unchecked. I wasn't particularly supportive of a new enquiry until Starmer whipped against it. That looks like a desperate partisan cover-up attempt to me. And on that basis I'm not inclined to support it.
Absolutely correct, I lean to the right personally, but Musk is a disgrace. I think even Reform will distance themselves from him as well. Even Poilievre is opposed to Musk and Trump, shows you just how maniacal those two have become. I absolutely wish the best for this labour government and hope that what they are doing will improve the lives of the majority of people.
Oh, really?! And how many times as a "journalist" Andrew Marr has raised the question of the rape gangs, which tortured and raped thousands of girls? How many people, responsible for the cover up had ever been brought to justice? So , which is most important for Marr- the truth and the accountability, Or the political correctness?!
Yes and we should all ignore the fact that in towns like Rotherham girls can no longer walk down the street in safety, Elon has called this out and the British Labour party does not care.
@@MobBarley00 You should lower your sights from the Tories and think of those young girls who have had their lives ruined by a multitude of public sector groups too scared to act to protect them, but hey the left will always put party before citizens
Re Jess Philips, I deplore the language Musk used as it’s incendiary BUT please be transparent and at least mention that she herself has used that slur numerous times on Twitter along with many other incendiary tweets.
@philipmatthewoconnor oh interesting, I'll look into that. I think in this instance it's definitely wrong and a horrible thing to be said and should be called out. Especially as she has done SO much for rape victims and in this specific case she has not been an apologist at all but calling it for what it (factually) is. That doesn't negate that if she has slung the same mud as you have suggested that it's a double standard. Both things can be true at once, and using rape victims as political footballs is horrible regardless
You act like this is a new thing, a Pakistani thing. I'm 64, but when I was 14 and frittering away my youth absent from school and starting my smoking habit, the house where I hid for the day was full of two types, 14 yr old schoolgirls and 30+ year old(white) night-time taxi drivers who used their cars and the money they earned to impress these under-age girls. They didn't come round for coffee. Is it any surprise that when people are getting what they want, that their morals are lost? The girls thought they were grown up. I bet hearing all this just takes them back to what now must be a painful time. Yes, this is a disgrace but what must be worse is to tar every Pakistani man with the same brush. This is only in the news now because that's the aim of all this. Just to add, my view of Pakistanis at the time was probably formed by general racism. But, the only Pakistani I had any knowledge of was a guy who ran a shop, probably opening late, but, famous as the captain of the men's hockey team that won a gold medal at the Olympics. This man too, would most likely be damned and vilified by our very own, English patriotic fascists. Shameful.
We have had an enquiry and need now to implement the findings, I’m not against another enquiry after the finding have been implemented but it would be good to get the recommendations in, for example a legal responsibility to report any suspicious of child welfare to authorities
Why won't the government release the minutes of meetings with foreign billionaires they had last year? What is the motivation if not foreign appeasement possibly through Starmers mate to hand over £10billion in tax payers money to Mauritius?
I don't give a YouKnowWhat how many people were "sent" to the US. This is Britain and I dislike foreign billionaires poking their noses into British politics and trying to use their money to change MY country. Geddit now? No?? Well that's too bad my friend.
None, some people who were labour party members chose to go over there to campaign, which they're free to do, just like Fartage is free to campaign for trump.
We are a free country, and some Labour Party members went on unpaid leave to help the Democracy. Some Conservative workers went to help the Republicans. It has always been the same in the past. Please get a grip of reality!
He has power and wealth. Unfortunately, he can force himself on us. He has an ego though. Very sensitive. If we directly appeal to his intellect, he may not yet be a total lost cause. Public opinion is our only way to fight him, now.
He's purely doing all this to drive up X traffic, why are you helping him. If you ignore any social media it simply drops off... AM is totally over indulging the EM rumours. STOP TALKING ABOUT HIS X/TWEETS - then he is no more.
I don’t remember the New Statesman shouting “coup d’etat” when Liz Truss was deposed. Like or loathe her that was what happened to her. At the time I felt that it was setting a dangerous precedent.
the bond market lost faith in UK's ability to sustainably fund itself DIRECTLY BECAUSE of her and kwasi's budget. The UK HAD no choice but to show the financial markets that it was doing something to correct that view ASAP. If it failed to do so the interest rate on UK bonds would have kept rising...HUGE PROBLEM. as it was the rise in interest rates has had, and is still having, a very big impact on millions of mortgage payers for example.
@ As they are doing now (bond yields). I repeat Truss was deposed in a coup d’etat, who was ultimately responsible is not as yet evident. The problem is that once it happens it can as quickly happen again. Musk’s intervention is quite unsettling. I suggest that you forget your party allegiance in this case and look at it in a more circumspect way.
Why did Marr and the rest of MSM avoid this awful story? Why did they not press the Tories when they were in power and now do their best to let Labour off the hook that so many of their councils made on this issue? Perhaps he should worry more about doing his job, which when I last looked was to inform, before he worries about Musk. Prioritise seem misplaced unfortunately
We need the enquiry to let us know what went on and put in place various changes to ensue it cannot happen again😢and satisfy the public that our nation is fair and worthy with integrity
Why is there so much vagueness about the numerical ages, exact number of victims and even identities of some the victims? What is there to say that the current discussion about it is not a deliberate psyop and propaganda effort by the establishment on behalf of neo-fascists?
As a woman from South Africa where rape is endemic I am horrified about this story. You want to crucify Elon Musk - but where is the Pakistani community leaders, their Imams - they should be on the platforms explaining why this happened on their watch. Policemen, barristers and others who made the life of the rape victims hell should be named and shamed.
There was an inquiry it came out a few years ago , there was 20 recommendations non of which was taken up by the Tory party which was in power at the time.
If rape is so endemic in SA why isn't he screaming at your President and ridiculously calling for him to be in prison? I haven't been to SA but have spent time in L.A which is riddled with all sorts of nasty problems that he conviently ignores too. Would you like him back ...permanently, Please?
Let's not forget the root of Musk's erratic behavior: he announced on SNL last year that he has Asperger's syndrome. So while he is in some respects highly gifted in certain areas, he suffers severe deficits in others. And unfortunately, those severe deficits are wreaking havoc because his billions of puerile followers think he is a genius and a visionary and have no idea that his perceptions are not merely quite distorted, but often out of touch with reality.
When there are so many unanswered questions about why the gangs were unchecked for so long, it seems very bad politics to resisit a more detailed enquiry. Andy Burnham is now calling for one making the optics around Starmer seem even worse.
Fortunately for Starmer the evil Tory/Reform amendment wouldn't have triggered an inquiry. The amendment started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill", so if anyone questions him on this he can go on the attack. It was a shameful episode for the Tory/Reform.
What the BBC does in a regular basis, hardly any reporting on the grooming gang cover up recently & focuses on musk more than the cover ups. The BBC is far more harmful than Musk
Andrew, when does it become islamophobia? Is it with the first case? Are questions about race and religion so off bounds that it's impossible to ask these questions? Don't paedophiles realise like everyone else that this is a blind spot where they can carry out their crimes without any risk of investigation or prosecution? Of course they do. May I recommend that you look at the Australian Royal Commission to see how IICSA should have been done.
England is a Protestant nation and culture.....the essence of the protestant movement is to challenge religion and demand reform... No religion or ideology should ever be unchallenged... The ONLY good thing that can ever come from Islams intrusion into the modern world is that it might learn how to evolve
I THINK...Gov SHOULD LOOK AFTER ITS MOST VULNERABLE...IN SOCIETY!!! Ie. Little children - WHAT A SICK DISGUSTING EVIL society...that doesn't realise this...are we living in Pakistan???
One dude in America, a very rich one sure, says something about the UK and you call it meddling in UK affairs? He has no power over you? Why do you care? Oh, is it that he makes you look bad by calling out thing you have been covering up..?
The Brits have been opining on how other countries run their affairs. It is so amusing to see the purse clutching as soon as someone does the same against their ruling regime.
I find it utterly disgraceful and completely terrifying that a national inquiry is being overlooked. The sheer scale of failings across the country, this is without a doubt something which is still going on within communities and the people who have failed to do their jobs - council workers, social care workers, police and so should absolutely be held accountable either with a sacking or a prison sentence in some cases. Why on earth can the government not implement the recommendations AND have a national inquiry? Am I crazy?
A:It's not practical to implement reforms and have an enquiry, it's basically the same set of people and trying to do both would be very very slow. B:The Torys were lying about the inquiry. Their amendment started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill" Basically it doesn't trigger an inquiry, they were lying...
You do realise that a SEVEN year national inquiry was held between 2015 and 2022 don't you?, the previous Conservative government did little to implement any of the recommendations of the inquiry. Since Labour came to power 262 child sex offenders have received custodial sentences. You need to educate yourself fella
@KevSmith-v4udo you not realise that the Jay inquiry covered the general area of child sexual exploitation and not specially grooming gangs ran by British Pakistanis? Do you see any differences there? Do you see why Oldham which has had grooming gangs may want an investigation into that specifically?
No, you are not crazy, but a inquiry may implement the current Government and the then head of the of the CPS, who just happens to be the same person blocking an inquiry.
I'm loving watching the media of Britain claim Mr Musk is meddling in British politics by commenting about it, after they themselves have spent 8 years commenting negatively on American politics with regards to Trump. Mr Musk will I'm sure stop meddling in British politics, right after you all stop meddling in American politics.
SEnior police officers, at least in Birmingham, saw that gangs grooming young women were also involved in serious crime - so they focused on the crime issues and ignored the poor girls caught up with the gangs. These people should be brought to task in a National enquiry and support provided for all the young females whose lives were blighted by their neglect.
Suggesting Starmer can't bully Musk is a ridiculous thing to say. He has a very powerful bully pulpit and any person worth their salt can cut these megalomaniacs down to size. Everyone of any age will know the story of how one man who was willing to stand up to a bully like Joe McCarthy brough him down in a couple of sentences. Unfortunately Starmer isn't a stateman and never will be. If I was advising Starmer I would write a couple of lines for the media. "Has anyone ever taken a toddler into a space like a museum or art gallery and once the toddler hears the echo they yell at the top of their lungs because they like to hear the sound of their voice echoing. In a nutshell that's Space Karen. He'll stop being impressed at the sound of his own voice when he grows up. In the meantime he's irrelevant."
No that is not what they meant. If anything their point was what is an illegal immigrant from another country doing thinking he can dictate to the UK how it runs elections and then governs.
Musk has a political agenda. He has even been honest about it. So why pretend that these abused girls are anything more than a convenient ploy. Though he could always give each of them a few hundred grand as a true gesture. Don't hold your breath.
Elon is a sad person, disowned by his many kids, many of whom he barely know. He has lost it when he eldest female child publicly disowned him and changed her surname.
Musk has more money than Rudy. And he would just drag it through the courts. Jess Phillips is a good person and has done more for vulnerable girls than the whole Musk mob.
As a South African, I can categorically confirm that "Peadoguy" is not a casual, slang, colloquial or otherwise term we use. Besides he left SA when he was eighteen - what does e know of South African terms now? He should focus his energy elsewhere, Britain can & must do better than they have addressing this scourge. But Elon has zero business weighing in on the topic.
the peculiar thing about musk is that he is partly so rich because the American taxpayer is subsidising him massively for satellites, space x etc etc and making him more rich - so he is almost the king in America with his oligarch friends - poor america - maybe britain should take it back
Exactly! It's 45% federal funding + 45% stock market bubble + 10% daddy's money. The fact that people keep arguing that he's a genius when he has invented nothing is astounding.
Sarah Champion(who was director of the local childrens hospice before becoming MP) said it and I'll say it. Mainly men of Pakistani heritage from the Kashmir region of Pakistan where the majority of British Pakistanis originate. Btw I'm from Rotherham and despise anything far right but I witnessed back in the late 90s young pakistani men coming into the foyer of Rotherham college and hassling girls. Our tutors were aware of the problem and told them to clear off on numerous occasions whilst being sworn at. The original recommendations need to be implemented by Kier Starmer ASAP and a new more thorough enquiry into the true level of this needs to be opened otherwise it will damage the government and give Badenoch & Farage more fuel for their right wing bonfires.
And Private Eye has been covering this since the late 1990s, it reported Ann Cryer (MP for Keighley at the time) speaking out about this time and again. As ever Private Eye was there years before anyone else.
Why is he even playing video games he's an adult with responsibility. Now people are saying he got caught cheating in a video game called Path of Exile 2 Hiring a Chinese player to play the game for him to a high rank, he claims to be a high ranking video game player, on multiple podcast? What is his problem I mean Medically, he's not right.
I love Andrew Marr. I always respect his thoughts and opinions. Brilliant guy. What a grim looking studio/office at The New Statesman . It looks like a railway waiting room from wartime.
Fabric of society is being torn apart he’s helped .The figure as I looked at from the 2021 ONS report indicated that was around 227,500 reported cases and only one in five resulted in a conviction 4%. Pathetic.
At 6.30 minutes the lady at least touches on the subject. Any other Country would be out on the streets. "we should at least have a little think about why we haven't looked into this more".
If you don't look we don't find. I congratulate Labour councils, for conducting enquiries. Even if the reports are limited. At least they started the process.
Musk is now meddling in Canadian politics as well. He's an outspoken supporter of Pierre Poilievre, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. Poilievre is a far-right reactionary libertarian and a nasty political operator who peddles discontent and outrage at every imagined liberal error (never mind that the Canadian economy has done quite well under Trudeau). Musk seems to think he can interfere freely in the politics of any country he chooses. He's a freelance neofascist provocateur and arguably the richest human being in human history. Where does this end?
What a lot of people fail to realise is that whilst a lengthy and expensive inquiry is ongoing, the government's hands immediately become tied in being able to take direct action. Furthermore, a prime minister or home secretary can stand up in the House of Commons and simply state that 'decisions on what action is appropriate and to be taken depends on the outcome of the inquiry'. Thus giving any dubious politician a perfect excuse to not to do anything. Given that the previous inquiry took 7 years to complete, that is the bulk of two successive terms in office and 7 years down the line from now means that the political wrangling and debating that is common pre-election will be the topics of the day and not necessarily the outcome of an inquiry. Is Kemi Badenoch's calls for yet another inquiry an attempt to cover the Tories' failings to implement the recommendations of the inquiry already held? This is the question that should really be asked, as she will be very aware that a lengthy inquiry will give her and her party an advantage in avoiding any scrutiny on their past performance - or lack thereof. Her job is to scrutinise and put pressure on the current government to implement the findings and recommendations of the inquiry already held and ensure the safety of all children throughout the United Kingdom.
For future generations we need to learn some painful lessons on this and those who ignored it needs to be made accountable. I see no reason why protections can’t be implemented in the meantime
The Jay Report hardly addresses the grooming gang issue & only looked at 6 towns where grooming hands was hardly an issue. . Therefore a whole load of local councilors, social workers, politicians & policemen will never be held to account for ignoring the plight of these girls & even covering it up. What some of them did was evil.
No they do not , there is nothing to stop the government putting in place those recommendations while a specific inquiry into the grooming gangs is launched.
Astounding - or perhaps not so surprising on this channel after all - that it takes till 6:10 to stop waffling on about Elon Musk and actually get down to the shocking issue. One third of the chit-chat spent in idle politicking...
I read that there are we have a far higher percentage of home-grown predatory people . Not just Pakistani men. To narrow the blame is surely wrong. And counterproductive.
Musk is generally quite misinformed about British politics. But on this issue, I’m pretty sure the average Brit aligns more with Musk’s outrage than Starmer’s mealy-mouthed dismissal.
No, Musk has lost the room.... With the vile Tory/Reform amendment they pushed started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill" Basically they were trying to block child protection laws... Simply vial.
@@Soul_of_a_Robot I don’t think that makes sense. Anger frequently causes people to mouth off on issues without fully understanding them first. Being misinformed doesn’t imply he’s being disingenuous.
Tesla: valued at 150+ times earnings. 20 times price to book value. If someone offered me a 5 year put option, strike price at $300, I'll gladly take it.
@@vinylrulesok8470the inquiry was done by the government! That’s like marking your own homework and giving yourself an A in a test! Not good enough and it’s still going on
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Rich, but slightly eccentric bloke with Asperger’s from a country far away, makes rather clumsy and a bit over-egged remarks … British Government collapses … FFS … GET REAL!!😕
Yes it’s deliberate - let’s focus on demonising Elon Musk/Trump/ Robinson etc etc so you’re not looking at the establishment and their abject failure and corruption.
What’s happening? I have actually found myself agreeing with Andrew. But can I just say that Tommy Robinson HAS kept this unpleasant and embarrassing subject in the publics line of vision when so many people wanted to look away. His constant vilification is cheap - he’s a flawed individual BUT is one of the few people ‘with a platform’ who made sure we didn’t all look the other way.
As the last administration did not put any of the measures into action, of course it could still be happening. An inquiry would only delay putting the 7 year long inquiry into action. The last administration refused in parliament to agree to teachers and other persons in daily contact with children to have a duty to report abuse. This tells you all you need to know. No more delays. Put remedies into action. Another inquiry will only delay. Besides the racist element would only have one outcome! And child abuse is statistically mostly a white thing, not just a muslim thing. And this is the most important thing here. No point in having a racist further inquiry, which by its very natures is only tackling child abuse very partially, but go with what we had, which was an inclusive inquiry encompassing all abuse. What is important is to enforce the inclusive remedy, rather than stoking racist tensions, while dismissing the victims get justice yet again. No more partial inquiries, that are meant to delay and to make child abuse solely a muslim problem! If you have an inquiry into Covid, you don't just look at Covid in the over sixties, but you look at Covid in the round. And if you have an inquiry into burglaries, you don't just look at burglaries conducted by ex prisoners, you look at it in the round. And so it is here! We had the inquiry, now let us see its recommendations being put it into action and check if the actions fix it appropriately. Nothing else matters now.
What did I miss??? HIS TRYING to call out the government - for "helping" muslim rapists torture molester gangs!!! NO-ONE in the UK, CAN CRITICISE Muslims!!! #MAJORissues
I agree that Musk should not meddle in UK politics! But he is currently not a member of Trumps presidency, so is still technically still free to make comment - but I wish he wouldn't! However, the labour party did sent members to the US to help the democrats. So, they can't really complain!
Not the same thing at all. They went there under their own steam to campaign on the ground for the Democratic Party as has been common practice for both parties in previous election campaigns. They did not have the power or intention to subvert the democratic process as Musk has done by calling for the overthrow of a fairly elected government in the Uk.
There is a marked difference between giving support to a political party that has not been elected to power and encouraging the overthrow of a legitimately elected government.
@@keithhumphries2109 The problem is, Labour (as a sitting UK government) should NOT have been getting involved in foreign elections - so actually it is WORSE! Musk is (until 20.01) a "free agent" - having said that I am sure he will continue to meddle after 20.01 - in which case he will be just as bad as Labour are.
@@outsidethebox2037 That is actually an excellent point. If their first response is _"How can we silence this criticism?"_ rather than _"How can we refute it?"_ that says a lot about them.
@@andybrice2711because it’s dishonest. There was an enquiry, which was published in 2022. The previous government elected not to act on its recommendations.
There's another point which isn't being talked about much. These victims were mostly children living in care system. Can we do a better job of looking after children in the care system or preventing them from having to be taken into care so that they are less vulnerable to this kind of thing?
tory privatised the 'care' system ! profit from cutting services to THE most vulnerable kids in the nation. sickening.
@davegubbins4428
Most of the abuse didn't occur in the Conservative areas, did it.
@ehilton. No, because private companies put those care homes into deprived areas, house prices are cheaper, and cheaper to run. You can’t have the Mibbie Tory areas being blighted by children in care can we?
Can you answer these questions: why are the ages, number count and names of the children never mentioned? Why is the issue relevant in the midst of an American and western-backed Israeli genocide that has killed 10000 times more children?
How could this possibly get out of hand it’s madness
The reason Musk is calling for the national inquiry is simply because he thinks he can use it to damage labour and Starmer.
100% right ... his motive is political power. No moral agenda whatsoever 😢
Yes... and WHY Musk thinks he is somehow entitled to interfere in British politics testifies to his delusions of grandeur. He's a rather sick individual.
@@MobBarley00 Keir Starmer and Labour are already causing enough damage without needing help from Musk.
Yeah well trying to cover up grooming hurts you. Starmer fought having an investigation he only gave in when forced.
@@David-f8e2v Tories had 15 years to do it.
I know the police very well, if the victims had been middle class girls, they would have moved heaven and Earth to prosecute the culprits.
What I don't understand is why all politicians in the UK are not standing shoulder to shoulder telling Musk to stay out of British politics.
I’m assuming you also didn’t agree with 100 Labour current & former staff members flying over to the states to help Biden & the conservatives with their campaign?
@JJamJ Have you seen the film Civil War? That's the kind of disruption Musk is trying to spread in the UK and wider Europe with his lies and disinformation on his so called free speech platform. That is in no way the same as a few Labour supporters helping out canvassing for the Democrat campaign. We've already seen in the UK how that can pan out.
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I’m planning on moving to Thailand in the next 5 years if trump’s government doesn’t do anything with the high prices of groceries and taxes
What about you??
Been debt free for two years thanks to Stephanie Janis Stiefel. So sad to see my friends in their 40s with car loans, mortgages and credit card debt.
My sister lives in Aussie. They have good healthcare better than America. I am also moving there after I retire.
Please stop gentrifying countries
Stop the Xcrement - Don't feed the Troll
If a Muslim is involved in abusing children, we as Muslims want them punished by the authorities. The rights of the children must be protected.
I think some people have missed the fact that most of these abusers ‘have’ been jailed. The scandal was originally that girls from very bad backgrounds were not believed and did not cope well as witnesses when the cases did go to court. Counter to Elon’s narrative the people he is attacking have done a lot to fix these issues in the past and are trying to implement more useful changes now, rather than wasting more time on new inquiries that simply tell us what we already know from previous inquiries. The only thing this government is pushing back on is this issue being used as an excuse for fuelling generalised racism and rioting, that’s why they have arrested people who have encouraged burning down immigrant centres and mosques (not just memes as Elon downplayed it). The government are more than happy to lock up grooming gangs, they are not defending them at all.
Rare Muslim comment
Yet no one in the community saw a thing as usual and they still live in your community without fear 😂
Look at the replies and see if theyve accepted you are not. You will never be “one of the good ones”
@@ClandestineChroniclesOfficial nothing rare about it
If a rich guy can rattle a government then that says alot about the government. The uk has had uninspiring weak chinned leadership for decades. So being rattled by a wealthy guy overseas just proves it. I do hope one day we are led by people and lesdership who are transparent, value driven and gets thibgs done by unlocking the potential of its people and the nation.
Actually I used to visit the Oldham area over 30 years ago quite regularly. Even then the police in the area were very suspect in their actions. I don't know anything about the girls, but I was told that a guy with his girlfriend were attract by a gang of black youths and when the guy complained to the police he was actually arrested himself for causing a disturbance! I've heard through the years about police when they are outnumbered not standing up to the law and it's quite common. I support Labour and think they are smeared too much when basically all they are doing is trying to put the country on a good footing, and are right up against it because of the financial situation of the country. Look at the NHS wrecked through the Tories and the money grabbing GP's.
If I know, living in France for almost 20 years, about the prosecutions and sentencing of those men in grooming gangs, about the subsequent inquiry and its conclusions, why doesn't everybdy else? What I haven't heard anything about is what action the Tories have taken/failed to take to change attitudes end ensure no repetition. That should be the focus of any inquiry.
No the focus on the Inquiry should be on the perpetrators and those that covered it up for decades like the social workers and the police
What is the point in another inquiry when the last one took 7 years and none of the recommendations have been put in place by the Tories in the 2 years since the inquiry. Labour need to implement ALL recommendations. Cooper 3wanted to make it a criminal offence not to report abuse 10 years ago and the Tories refused to do that yet they now act all high and mighty is ridiculous. I've seen Farage and Tice say but it's much bigger than anyone ever knew and they claim 50 towns - the only references I can find of this is via the dodgy GBNEWS and we all know their agenda and their articles are behind a paywall which seems strange for someone so outraged and finally GBNEWS made this claim in Feb 2024 so 11 months of nothing from the Tories until Musk opens his gob and not they're appalled, it's sickening and the likes of Jenrick, Badenoch and Truss and their language and refusal to call out the Musk nonsense
Not true
That was a review into child abuse , that only touched on the grooming gangs and did not investigate the cover up.
I'm from Rotherham. How many times was the city mentioned in the report? Are white working class girls the wrong sort of victims for the labour party? Why were all these towns and cities under labour control?
You've certainly got a point. Though the previous enquiry only touched on this issue quite briefly. It doesn't look in detail at the decades of institutional failures which allowed this specific pattern of criminality to go unchecked.
I wasn't particularly supportive of a new enquiry until Starmer whipped against it. That looks like a desperate partisan cover-up attempt to me. And on that basis I'm not inclined to support it.
So that the process can be used to damage Starmer. This is the only reason Musk is pushing for it.
Absolutely correct, I lean to the right personally, but Musk is a disgrace. I think even Reform will distance themselves from him as well. Even Poilievre is opposed to Musk and Trump, shows you just how maniacal those two have become. I absolutely wish the best for this labour government and hope that what they are doing will improve the lives of the majority of people.
How so is he a disgrace? If anything is a disgrace is that something like this could happen and the UK government was complicit!
@@avengerrevenger4458 It is obvious that these abused girls are just a convenient ploy in a political game. The question is what is Musk really up to.
Oh, really?! And how many times as a "journalist" Andrew Marr has raised the question of the rape gangs, which tortured and raped thousands of girls? How many people, responsible for the cover up had ever been brought to justice? So , which is most important for Marr- the truth and the accountability, Or the political correctness?!
If you whistle for the dogs loud enough, you might just attract a wolf.
If Musk wants to talk about grooming, he should talk about his father and step sister.!
he supported andrew tate as pm
Yes and we should all ignore the fact that in towns like Rotherham girls can no longer walk down the street in safety, Elon has called this out and the British Labour party does not care.
let's deflect shall we?
@@crckr2010 you mean the Conservative Party who has 15 years to do an inquiry but didn’t. And who didn’t implement the actual recommendations
@@MobBarley00 You should lower your sights from the Tories and think of those young girls who have had their lives ruined by a multitude of public sector groups too scared to act to protect them, but hey the left will always put party before citizens
Re Jess Philips, I deplore the language Musk used as it’s incendiary BUT please be transparent and at least mention that she herself has used that slur numerous times on Twitter along with many other incendiary tweets.
What slur, sorry?
@ she’s called numerous opponents “rape apologists”, which obviously is a terribly hurtful thing for her, Musk or anyone else to accuse someone of
@philipmatthewoconnor oh interesting, I'll look into that. I think in this instance it's definitely wrong and a horrible thing to be said and should be called out. Especially as she has done SO much for rape victims and in this specific case she has not been an apologist at all but calling it for what it (factually) is. That doesn't negate that if she has slung the same mud as you have suggested that it's a double standard. Both things can be true at once, and using rape victims as political footballs is horrible regardless
You act like this is a new thing, a Pakistani thing. I'm 64, but when I was 14 and frittering away my youth absent from school and starting my smoking habit, the house where I hid for the day was full of two types, 14 yr old schoolgirls and 30+ year old(white) night-time taxi drivers who used their cars and the money they earned to impress these under-age girls. They didn't come round for coffee. Is it any surprise that when people are getting what they want, that their morals are lost? The girls thought they were grown up. I bet hearing all this just takes them back to what now must be a painful time. Yes, this is a disgrace but what must be worse is to tar every Pakistani man with the same brush. This is only in the news now because that's the aim of all this. Just to add, my view of Pakistanis at the time was probably formed by general racism. But, the only Pakistani I had any knowledge of was a guy who ran a shop, probably opening late, but, famous as the captain of the men's hockey team that won a gold medal at the Olympics. This man too, would most likely be damned and vilified by our very own, English patriotic fascists. Shameful.
What's wrong with confronting our darkest problems, otherwise we will never emerge from our collective decline.
Truth, anyone hating on the light that has been shone has issues with the truth.
We have had an enquiry and need now to implement the findings, I’m not against another enquiry after the finding have been implemented but it would be good to get the recommendations in, for example a legal responsibility to report any suspicious of child welfare to authorities
James, do you accept that a 7 year enquiry has already happened?
@@fablewallsyes , and ask the Tories why they didn,t act on the findings.
@@fablewallsit hardly addressed the grooming gang issue ,,& why it's been covered up for so long
How many people did Labour send to the US to aid the democrats?
Why won't the government release the minutes of meetings with foreign billionaires they had last year? What is the motivation if not foreign appeasement possibly through Starmers mate to hand over £10billion in tax payers money to Mauritius?
I don't give a YouKnowWhat how many people were "sent" to the US. This is Britain and I dislike foreign billionaires poking their noses into British politics and trying to use their money to change MY country. Geddit now? No?? Well that's too bad my friend.
None, some people who were labour party members chose to go over there to campaign, which they're free to do, just like Fartage is free to campaign for trump.
I wonder if any Labour MPs have made any strong comments about US politicians in recent years? Since that's apparently unacceptable.
We are a free country, and some Labour Party members went on unpaid leave to help the Democracy. Some Conservative workers went to help the Republicans. It has always been the same in the past. Please get a grip of reality!
Elon Musk has views on everything, even things he knows nothing about . I am at loss to understand why anybody bother to respond to him
$350 billion dollars.
And yet via proxy you have.
There is a German proverb : the silliest farmers have the biggest potatoes
He has power and wealth. Unfortunately, he can force himself on us.
He has an ego though. Very sensitive. If we directly appeal to his intellect, he may not yet be a total lost cause. Public opinion is our only way to fight him, now.
Musk commenting on uk politics is questionable ,so is labour sending activists to the USA to lobby for the democrats at the last election.
He's purely doing all this to drive up X traffic, why are you helping him. If you ignore any social media it simply drops off... AM is totally over indulging the EM rumours. STOP TALKING ABOUT HIS X/TWEETS - then he is no more.
He Who Must Not Be Named?
Are you saying you’re upset that the grooming gang scandal has finally been brought into the full light of day?
I don’t remember the New Statesman shouting “coup d’etat” when Liz Truss was deposed. Like or loathe her that was what happened to her. At the time I felt that it was setting a dangerous precedent.
the bond market lost faith in UK's ability to sustainably fund itself DIRECTLY BECAUSE of her and kwasi's budget. The UK HAD no choice but to show the financial markets that it was doing something to correct that view ASAP.
If it failed to do so the interest rate on UK bonds would have kept rising...HUGE PROBLEM. as it was the rise in interest rates has had, and is still having, a very big impact on millions of mortgage payers for example.
@ As they are doing now (bond yields). I repeat Truss was deposed in a coup d’etat, who was ultimately responsible is not as yet evident. The problem is that once it happens it can as quickly happen again. Musk’s intervention is quite unsettling. I suggest that you forget your party allegiance in this case and look at it in a more circumspect way.
@@perkinscrane Truss buggered up the UK economy and doubled everyone's mortgage, she signed her own death warrant.
Why did Marr and the rest of MSM avoid this awful story?
Why did they not press the Tories when they were in power and now do their best to let Labour off the hook that so many of their councils made on this issue?
Perhaps he should worry more about doing his job, which when I last looked was to inform, before he worries about Musk.
Prioritise seem misplaced unfortunately
This story was all over the front pages of newspapers.
We need the enquiry to let us know what went on and put in place various changes to ensue it cannot happen again😢and satisfy the public that our nation is fair and worthy with integrity
Musk is evil. He's the head of the Bond villain reunion that Trump calls his cabinet.
Musk is No.2
@@JimTimber You're not suggesting that Trump is No. 1? Bond villains have intelligence.
Bond was British, now Britain is the Laughing Stock of the World.
@@danilomodus5651 No it's not. It doesn't come close to the dumpster fire that US politics is.
Good to hear left wing people discuss this issue objectively
Marr hits the nail on the head,at last. Is he now far right?
So Rupert Murdoch had been doing it for decades and nothing is said.
Britsh MPs dished out insults galore to the US president 2016-
Seems they can only give and not take.
You’re wrong. This didn’t start on GB News. It started on X and GB News latched onto it. Times are changing.
it started in The Times newspaper in 2011.
My guess is Musk doesn’t care a jot about those poor children. He only cares about Elon Musk.
No. He is THE ONLY ONE who cares for us
@@faisafarrah9043 Careful, you're hallucinating.
very bad guess. Labour only care about votes, and little girls can't vote.
He doesn't even care about his own children just ask his trans daughter.
@@faisafarrah9043who is us?
Why is there so much vagueness about the numerical ages, exact number of victims and even identities of some the victims? What is there to say that the current discussion about it is not a deliberate psyop and propaganda effort by the establishment on behalf of neo-fascists?
As a woman from South Africa where rape is endemic I am horrified about this story. You want to crucify Elon Musk - but where is the Pakistani community leaders, their Imams - they should be on the platforms explaining why this happened on their watch. Policemen, barristers and others who made the life of the rape victims hell should be named and shamed.
😂 Crucify ? Like Mounty Python ??
Elon Musk does not care about you, the women in question, or women in general.
There was an inquiry it came out a few years ago , there was 20 recommendations non of which was taken up by the Tory party which was in power at the time.
If rape is so endemic in SA why isn't he screaming at your President and ridiculously calling for him to be in prison? I haven't been to SA but have spent time in L.A which is riddled with all sorts of nasty problems that he conviently ignores too. Would you like him back ...permanently, Please?
Well said ! The hypocrisy in the UK is appalling !
More Andrew Marr, More Bernie Sanders, More Ian Hislop please. We need sense in amongst the chaos.
Let's not forget the root of Musk's erratic behavior: he announced on SNL last year that he has Asperger's syndrome. So while he is in some respects highly gifted in certain areas, he suffers severe deficits in others. And unfortunately, those severe deficits are wreaking havoc because his billions of puerile followers think he is a genius and a visionary and have no idea that his perceptions are not merely quite distorted, but often out of touch with reality.
😅😅😅😅😅. Grow up ..He a narcissistic cun£
@@EdNew-i5g More megalomania than narcissism, no?
@sakttan Hand in hand..
he mistreated women include his wives
Genius 😂😂 wtf?
When there are so many unanswered questions about why the gangs were unchecked for so long, it seems very bad politics to resisit a more detailed enquiry. Andy Burnham is now calling for one making the optics around Starmer seem even worse.
Fortunately for Starmer the evil Tory/Reform amendment wouldn't have triggered an inquiry.
The amendment started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill", so if anyone questions him on this he can go on the attack. It was a shameful episode for the Tory/Reform.
Burnham is like a kite. However the wind blows.
What was missing from the last enquiry (which ran for 7 years) that you want covered in a new enquiry?
There's not unanswered questions. Those complicit should be in jail.
The Jay report has no recommendations that will bring the guilty parties to goal
It's free speech
It turns out free speech can be expensive if you leave out the truth.
Buying political influence is a little more than just free speech.
What the BBC does in a regular basis, hardly any reporting on the grooming gang cover up recently & focuses on musk more than the cover ups. The BBC is far more harmful than Musk
Free speech ... until it is liable.
Only trillionaire qatari emir has the right to interfere in uk politics
Andrew, when does it become islamophobia? Is it with the first case? Are questions about race and religion so off bounds that it's impossible to ask these questions? Don't paedophiles realise like everyone else that this is a blind spot where they can carry out their crimes without any risk of investigation or prosecution? Of course they do. May I recommend that you look at the Australian Royal Commission to see how IICSA should have been done.
England is a Protestant nation and culture.....the essence of the protestant movement is to challenge religion and demand reform...
No religion or ideology should ever be unchallenged...
The ONLY good thing that can ever come from Islams intrusion into the modern world is that it might learn how to evolve
He is talking to Putin a lot? Now he’s trying to escalate AFD…. I think he really needs to be watched closely by all governments!
❤ yes, he talks nonsense but he's dangerous because of his finances
I THINK...Gov SHOULD LOOK AFTER ITS MOST VULNERABLE...IN SOCIETY!!! Ie. Little children - WHAT A SICK DISGUSTING EVIL society...that doesn't realise this...are we living in Pakistan???
Yet not George Soros? WEF? 😢
@ why would he when Musk is the WEF for Putin…
Conspiracy theorists
MARE YOUR THE ONE THAT'S OUT OF TOUCH ALONG WITH THE REST OF YOU .
But its okay for Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab to interfere in British politics……
They didn't try and overthrow the elected government
Was it on this scale though?
@ You bet it is. They 100% control this government.
One dude in America, a very rich one sure, says something about the UK and you call it meddling in UK affairs?
He has no power over you? Why do you care?
Oh, is it that he makes you look bad by calling out thing you have been covering up..?
The Brits have been opining on how other countries run their affairs. It is so amusing to see the purse clutching as soon as someone does the same against their ruling regime.
AlternativeBrew....well said. Payback time
There should be cross-party outrage at Musk and cross-party support for Jess Phillips and Starmer.
I find it utterly disgraceful and completely terrifying that a national inquiry is being overlooked. The sheer scale of failings across the country, this is without a doubt something which is still going on within communities and the people who have failed to do their jobs - council workers, social care workers, police and so should absolutely be held accountable either with a sacking or a prison sentence in some cases. Why on earth can the government not implement the recommendations AND have a national inquiry? Am I crazy?
A:It's not practical to implement reforms and have an enquiry, it's basically the same set of people and trying to do both would be very very slow.
B:The Torys were lying about the inquiry. Their amendment started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill"
Basically it doesn't trigger an inquiry, they were lying...
You do realise that a SEVEN year national inquiry was held between 2015 and 2022 don't you?, the previous Conservative government did little to implement any of the recommendations of the inquiry. Since Labour came to power 262 child sex offenders have received custodial sentences. You need to educate yourself fella
@KevSmith-v4udo you not realise that the Jay inquiry covered the general area of child sexual exploitation and not specially grooming gangs ran by British Pakistanis? Do you see any differences there? Do you see why Oldham which has had grooming gangs may want an investigation into that specifically?
Go away, tedious Bot.
No, you are not crazy, but a inquiry may implement the current Government and the then head of the of the CPS, who just happens to be the same person blocking an inquiry.
Maybe he understands what it means to align with The World Economic Forum better than we.
All these oligarchs are so poor. All they have is money!
Elons the problem,not the failures of the state to protect the most vulnerable in society
never forget he targeted brtiish diver who saved kids in cave
I'm loving watching the media of Britain claim Mr Musk is meddling in British politics by commenting about it, after they themselves have spent 8 years commenting negatively on American politics with regards to Trump.
Mr Musk will I'm sure stop meddling in British politics, right after you all stop meddling in American politics.
SEnior police officers, at least in Birmingham, saw that gangs grooming young women were also involved in serious crime - so they focused on the crime issues and ignored the poor girls caught up with the gangs. These people should be brought to task in a National enquiry and support provided for all the young females whose lives were blighted by their neglect.
Suggesting Starmer can't bully Musk is a ridiculous thing to say. He has a very powerful bully pulpit and any person worth their salt can cut these megalomaniacs down to size.
Everyone of any age will know the story of how one man who was willing to stand up to a bully like Joe McCarthy brough him down in a couple of sentences. Unfortunately Starmer isn't a stateman and never will be.
If I was advising Starmer I would write a couple of lines for the media.
"Has anyone ever taken a toddler into a space like a museum or art gallery and once the toddler hears the echo they yell at the top of their lungs because they like to hear the sound of their voice echoing. In a nutshell that's Space Karen. He'll stop being impressed at the sound of his own voice when he grows up. In the meantime he's irrelevant."
Diversity is our strength
So basically you mean - ELON HAS A POINT. get a backbone for gods sake.
No that is not what they meant. If anything their point was what is an illegal immigrant from another country doing thinking he can dictate to the UK how it runs elections and then governs.
Musk has a political agenda. He has even been honest about it. So why pretend that these abused girls are anything more than a convenient ploy. Though he could always give each of them a few hundred grand as a true gesture. Don't hold your breath.
Elon is a sad person, disowned by his many kids, many of whom he barely know. He has lost it when he eldest female child publicly disowned him and changed her surname.
If Jess Phillips has been slandered then take Musk to court. That stopped Giulianni.
She should be sacked not slandered.
Yes, Jess Phillips sensitive feelings are way more important than the thousands of victims. Great comment.
Musk has more money than Rudy. And he would just drag it through the courts. Jess Phillips is a good person and has done more for vulnerable girls than the whole Musk mob.
As a South African, I can categorically confirm that "Peadoguy" is not a casual, slang, colloquial or otherwise term we use. Besides he left SA when he was eighteen - what does e know of South African terms now?
He should focus his energy elsewhere, Britain can & must do better than they have addressing this scourge. But Elon has zero business weighing in on the topic.
the peculiar thing about musk is that he is partly so rich because the American taxpayer is subsidising him massively for satellites, space x etc etc and making him more rich - so he is almost the king in America with his oligarch friends - poor america - maybe britain should take it back
Can't. Trump said the Continental Army took control of the airports. (In 1820)
What about Soros and Gates?
Exactly! It's 45% federal funding + 45% stock market bubble + 10% daddy's money. The fact that people keep arguing that he's a genius when he has invented nothing is astounding.
@@serenounificado Sure way to prove you cannot refute a fact - start a sentence with "What about."
@@danmayberry1185 They did, I know because I was there.
These gangs are still operating today! Still nothing is being done to stop it.
Sarah Champion(who was director of the local childrens hospice before becoming MP) said it and I'll say it. Mainly men of Pakistani heritage from the Kashmir region of Pakistan where the majority of British Pakistanis originate. Btw I'm from Rotherham and despise anything far right but I witnessed back in the late 90s young pakistani men coming into the foyer of Rotherham college and hassling girls. Our tutors were aware of the problem and told them to clear off on numerous occasions whilst being sworn at. The original recommendations need to be implemented by Kier Starmer ASAP and a new more thorough enquiry into the true level of this needs to be opened otherwise it will damage the government and give Badenoch & Farage more fuel for their right wing bonfires.
And Private Eye has been covering this since the late 1990s, it reported Ann Cryer (MP for Keighley at the time) speaking out about this time and again. As ever Private Eye was there years before anyone else.
I've seen the police in Rotherham 'in action'. Disgraceful.
"British Pakistani"? There's no such thing
Why is he even playing video games he's an adult with responsibility. Now people are saying he got caught cheating in a video game called Path of Exile 2 Hiring a Chinese player to play the game for him to a high rank, he claims to be a high ranking video game player, on multiple podcast? What is his problem I mean Medically, he's not right.
Nice to see this South Africa and is causing so much chaos for the crown
😂😂😂
We do not claim him in America.
Yall got Kamala and biden
@ But he is yours now. Not chaos, it is called adult discussion. Only chaos is in your "drowning" USA. The crown? Awe, don't be jealous.
@@BulletHellRazor-ik9rn ‘Yall’. Wot’s that?
Well how is still happening ffs
Labour sending staff out to work with the Democrats pre US election wasn’t a problem, presumably?
Apparently that's made angry people who like retribution angrier.... Sore winners, reminds me of the Brexit gang
And Tories coming to the US to help Trump and the GOP?
Why worry about Elon Musk what about our government their meddling is far worse.
I love Andrew Marr. I always respect his thoughts and opinions. Brilliant guy.
What a grim looking studio/office at The New Statesman . It looks like a railway waiting room from wartime.
Fabric of society is being torn apart he’s helped .The figure as I looked at from the 2021 ONS report indicated that was around 227,500 reported cases and only one in five resulted in a conviction 4%. Pathetic.
It's legacy media. Defunct.
It’s called ‘doing a Lord Ali ‘.
At 6.30 minutes the lady at least touches on the subject. Any other Country would be out on the streets. "we should at least have a little think about why we haven't looked into this more".
America does view the world as allies but as chess pieces, it can push around at will.
If you don't look we don't find.
I congratulate Labour councils, for conducting enquiries.
Even if the reports are limited. At least they started the process.
OMG they did the coverup.
This is about Muslims.
Musk is now meddling in Canadian politics as well. He's an outspoken supporter of Pierre Poilievre, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. Poilievre is a far-right reactionary libertarian and a nasty political operator who peddles discontent and outrage at every imagined liberal error (never mind that the Canadian economy has done quite well under Trudeau).
Musk seems to think he can interfere freely in the politics of any country he chooses. He's a freelance neofascist provocateur and arguably the richest human being in human history. Where does this end?
What a lot of people fail to realise is that whilst a lengthy and expensive inquiry is ongoing, the government's hands immediately become tied in being able to take direct action. Furthermore, a prime minister or home secretary can stand up in the House of Commons and simply state that 'decisions on what action is appropriate and to be taken depends on the outcome of the inquiry'. Thus giving any dubious politician a perfect excuse to not to do anything. Given that the previous inquiry took 7 years to complete, that is the bulk of two successive terms in office and 7 years down the line from now means that the political wrangling and debating that is common pre-election will be the topics of the day and not necessarily the outcome of an inquiry. Is Kemi Badenoch's calls for yet another inquiry an attempt to cover the Tories' failings to implement the recommendations of the inquiry already held? This is the question that should really be asked, as she will be very aware that a lengthy inquiry will give her and her party an advantage in avoiding any scrutiny on their past performance - or lack thereof. Her job is to scrutinise and put pressure on the current government to implement the findings and recommendations of the inquiry already held and ensure the safety of all children throughout the United Kingdom.
For future generations we need to learn some painful lessons on this and those who ignored it needs to be made accountable. I see no reason why protections can’t be implemented in the meantime
The Jay Report hardly addresses the grooming gang issue & only looked at 6 towns where grooming hands was hardly an issue. . Therefore a whole load of local councilors, social workers, politicians & policemen will never be held to account for ignoring the plight of these girls & even covering it up. What some of them did was evil.
No they do not , there is nothing to stop the government putting in place those recommendations while a specific inquiry into the grooming gangs is launched.
Funny that yet still no one is talking about the tax havens...
No matter what at least he’s got people talking about it
Well done ELON the great exposing the rot of GB
Astounding - or perhaps not so surprising on this channel after all - that it takes till 6:10 to stop waffling on about Elon Musk and actually get down to the shocking issue. One third of the chit-chat spent in idle politicking...
And what is that 'issue', specifically and substantiated?
A politics channel politicking, what will they think of next?
I read that there are we have a far higher percentage of home-grown predatory people . Not just Pakistani men. To narrow the blame is surely wrong. And counterproductive.
Musk is generally quite misinformed about British politics. But on this issue, I’m pretty sure the average Brit aligns more with Musk’s outrage than Starmer’s mealy-mouthed dismissal.
No, Musk has lost the room....
With the vile Tory/Reform amendment they pushed started as follows: "That this House, while welcoming measures to improve child protection and safeguarding, declines to give a Second Reading to the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill"
Basically they were trying to block child protection laws... Simply vial.
Absolutely not. Musk isn't outraged in any way. If he was, he'd inform himself and stick to facts ye fool
@@Soul_of_a_Robot???
sure ivan.
@@Soul_of_a_Robot I don’t think that makes sense. Anger frequently causes people to mouth off on issues without fully understanding them first. Being misinformed doesn’t imply he’s being disingenuous.
This has been happening for hundreds of years
😭🤔🤔
Thanks for covering this, guys
Don't you mean 'thanks for the cover up guys'?
@@prashantkotak5181 That's what you mean.
Tesla: valued at 150+ times earnings. 20 times price to book value. If someone offered me a 5 year put option, strike price at $300, I'll gladly take it.
By calling our pedophiles? And a systemic cover-up. That's not allowed?.
What cover up? There was an inquiry, and over 20 recommendations, none of which the Tories took seriously.
the tories then right? right?
The comment above is straight from a Bot farm. Ignore. @@vinylrulesok8470
Thank you Elon.
@@vinylrulesok8470the inquiry was done by the government! That’s like marking your own homework and giving yourself an A in a test! Not good enough and it’s still going on
Why don't they call Jim?
He'll fix it.
Seriously, İ suspect everyone on all sides to care little about the truth. They just want your vote.
I think it is our press and media who are amplifying his tweets. I doubt many others this side of the pond pay much attention to him.
Every single person I know is a fan of him and his support online from actual British patriots is overwhelming. Sorry to deflate your Marxist bubble.
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Rich, but slightly eccentric bloke with Asperger’s from a country far away, makes rather clumsy and a bit over-egged remarks … British Government collapses … FFS … GET REAL!!😕
@@robinholland7791 Starmers bricking it, I wonder why?
It is the duty of the media to counter hoaxes and misinformation.
Yes it’s deliberate - let’s focus on demonising Elon Musk/Trump/ Robinson etc etc so you’re not looking at the establishment and their abject failure and corruption.
Had the recommendations of the Jay enquiry been implemented would it have uncovered the cover up in the Church of England??
What’s happening? I have actually found myself agreeing with Andrew. But can I just say that Tommy Robinson HAS kept this unpleasant and embarrassing subject in the publics line of vision when so many people wanted to look away. His constant vilification is cheap - he’s a flawed individual BUT is one of the few people ‘with a platform’ who made sure we didn’t all look the other way.
No, all he's done is promote himself off it, as well as almost collapse one of the trials.
As the last administration did not put any of the measures into action, of course it could still be happening. An inquiry would only delay putting the 7 year long inquiry into action. The last administration refused in parliament to agree to teachers and other persons in daily contact with children to have a duty to report abuse. This tells you all you need to know. No more delays. Put remedies into action. Another inquiry will only delay. Besides the racist element would only have one outcome! And child abuse is statistically mostly a white thing, not just a muslim thing. And this is the most important thing here. No point in having a racist further inquiry, which by its very natures is only tackling child abuse very partially, but go with what we had, which was an inclusive inquiry encompassing all abuse.
What is important is to enforce the inclusive remedy, rather than stoking racist tensions, while dismissing the victims get justice yet again. No more partial inquiries, that are meant to delay and to make child abuse solely a muslim problem! If you have an inquiry into Covid, you don't just look at Covid in the over sixties, but you look at Covid in the round. And if you have an inquiry into burglaries, you don't just look at burglaries conducted by ex prisoners, you look at it in the round. And so it is here!
We had the inquiry, now let us see its recommendations being put it into action and check if the actions fix it appropriately. Nothing else matters now.
It's not about Child Abuse it's about racially motivated grooming gangs and those that covered it up for decades...nice try at deflection though
YOU FORGET IT WAS RAPE TORTURE AND MURDER.
The British people might feel quite pleased if Musk managed to remove Starmer.
Elon has done your job for you.
he's done nothing but chat shite about an issue he knows NOTHING about.
he should stick to video gaming and drug taking.
The only reason Labour don’t want an enquiry is to protect their Muslim voters.
Bill gates is fine though eh?
nope
He hasn't tried to undermine the government...
@@robmc3338 but but but!
@Narrowsplice But Bill Gates is fibe though eh?
@Narrowsplice show the quote where he asks for the replacement of the prime minister you regard.
Keir Starmer. Rachel Reeves et al. meddling in politics is "outrageous." 😯
This dude should be ignored and not give him a platform to air his foul mouth
What did I miss???
HIS TRYING to call out the government - for "helping" muslim rapists torture molester gangs!!!
NO-ONE in the UK, CAN CRITICISE Muslims!!! #MAJORissues
How many heads have rolled.
I agree that Musk should not meddle in UK politics! But he is currently not a member of Trumps presidency, so is still technically still free to make comment - but I wish he wouldn't!
However, the labour party did sent members to the US to help the democrats. So, they can't really complain!
Not the same thing at all. They went there under their own steam to campaign on the ground for the Democratic Party as has been common practice for both parties in previous election campaigns. They did not have the power or intention to subvert the democratic process as Musk has done by calling for the overthrow of a fairly elected government in the Uk.
There is a marked difference between giving support to a political party that has not been elected to power and encouraging the overthrow of a legitimately elected government.
@@keithhumphries2109 The problem is, Labour (as a sitting UK government) should NOT have been getting involved in foreign elections - so actually it is WORSE! Musk is (until 20.01) a "free agent" - having said that I am sure he will continue to meddle after 20.01 - in which case he will be just as bad as Labour are.
Yeah...to help to stop the US sliding in its current direction of insanity.
Haha uk now beginning to realise what imperialist arrogance and interference feels like. Welcome to how the world thinks about our country
Sounds like you hate Britain
@simondebeer9917 no I just know our history.
Well Elon Musk may actually be correct in his statements Many will say that he lacks diplomacy, and that his own house is "not in order", but......
Musk is stirring the pot, alot of people are squirming. I hope he carries on doing exactly what he is doing.
He’s posting false information to encourage killings and racist riots, rather than allowing the government to deal with the actual problem.
Indeed, if they can't handle this type of pressure, then they really shouldn't be in Government.
Brown shirt.
@@outsidethebox2037 That is actually an excellent point. If their first response is _"How can we silence this criticism?"_ rather than _"How can we refute it?"_ that says a lot about them.
@@andybrice2711because it’s dishonest. There was an enquiry, which was published in 2022. The previous government elected not to act on its recommendations.