@@zanelepetu4956 money will help her rebuild herself, she can't start from zéro now that she sacrificed so much, she's a very smart woman, i'm sure the money will help her build a company etc...
This is why some women refuse to build a man or marry a man who isn't financially successful. This is the reason why women go for the men who have already made it.
That's guilt for you. No matter what anyone says about Israel not cheating with Adrienne therefore he got divorced she acts Hella guilty when cheating, divorces or spousal support comes up, it touches a nerve for her
😂😂 right! And Adrienne’s been in that marriage for what a year! Who’s to say it’s going to work out? Adrienne hasn’t had children nor has she gotten divorced and her lack of empathy shows that in this clip.
Even if she did get divorced. She has no kids. She aint your regular girl out here making regular money. She would never understand what its like ... she needs to have several seats
As if because "that's life" it doesn't hurt. Adrienne's take invalidates what this woman has gone through. She is saying oh well you chose to support you husband so... is that not a wife is supposed to do and vice versa? Does it always work out no but it hurts like he'll when it does not. And when it was a marriage and one with children shouldn't the dissolution of the assets be fair?
Loni Speaking nothing but facts. Sometimes we lose ourselves trying to prove to others how much we will do for them when in reality they won’t do the same. 😥
Well that is what marriage is about. You don't get married "temporarily" the vows say till death. Now if you don't honor those vows is one thing, but you dont get married thinking soon this will end. Adrienne needs to be careful what she puts out there cause everything comes back to you
Talking Tina I’m willing to sacrifice a lot in my marriage, like which city to live in etc. Im not willing to sacrifice my dreams and life goals though. And honestly I would side eye a man who asked me to sacrifice specifically this.
Nobantu Sibeko what if your man fell on hard times would you sacrifice to build him back up? You would step up to the plate? Or put your ME gloves on and walk away?
Talking Tina Of course I would stay with him. I’m not leaving my husband because he fell on hard times. But I don’t see where my sacrificing of my own goals fit in in this situation. You don’t have to sacrifice your life goals to bring another human being back up from hard times.
Loni’s right! All that time spent together, like ok if we’re not working anymore we’re not working but the way Jesse is acting it’s as if he doesn’t even see her as a friend anymore.
@@UrbanDecayLova247 we don't know what is going on behind closed doors, and she's interviewing with the media all over the place. I wouldn't be friends with someone who would do that
@@britbritnicole9211 well usually the ladies on the real would be up in arms.. She paid and supported him and then he cheated and left her. But yes the wife should have known that he was gonna leave her at some point and should have never try to be his ride or die bs. Take care of yourself if you man is an unemployed actor dont throw your money and career to help him at the expense of youtself
rainie chang So does that mean he has to be w/ her, pretending to love her for the rest of their lives? Adrienne is saying that you can’t assume that he’s gonna want to be w/ you forever. People change.
Nah They ALL missing the point except Loni. This woman was WORKING so he can be an actor he didn’t get Greys Anatomy just like that. It’s 14 years of working and paying bills this woman did all so he can get to where he is. SHE DESERVES EVERY PENNY
True she deserves every single penny. That is why men is the natural breadwinner cause they dont give birth. Women sacrifice their body to give birth to a baby. And for her to be the breadwinner and giving birth to their children that’s a lot of giving on her part and lots of taking on his part. She deserves half of what he is earning now. Period.
Never lose sleep over the small stuff she was literally the bread winner of the family. She worked for years while he was unemployed & a struggling actor, same with Kevin Hart and his wife.pls get your facts straight before you try and argue.
@@starlove6492 that is what she is saying. Its sad but true. I dont think she deserves nothing for her sacrifice but she also can't place the blame on Jesse either just cause he no longer wants her. She did make those decisions about her own life or lack their of
substantia nigra She´s not supporting Jessie. She´s saying don´t make foolish decisions out of love. At the end of the day, Jessie´s ex wife made some bad choices. That is life. I´ve seen so many people make horrible choices out of love. Adrienne is saying be realistic and don´t sacrifice your happiness for someone else´s. That was her point.
she cannot relate because she has entered into marriage with financial security of her own. I think she is speaking solely on individuals choosing to make sacrifices but when those sacrifices don't pay off, they turn around and blame everyone else for their original decision. She is correct--with every sacrifice you make, it is a risk that all will turn out as expected. Hardly likely when dealing with human beings. I think expecting spousal support and all of that is a separate matter from who is to blame.
i agree with adrienne and y’all. adrienne is making logical sense but i don’t believe it’s “all her fault”. both of them, the woman AND MAN, knew what the women was getting into. he knew she would sacrifice her life for him but he fucked her over. that’s cheese. loni is right she just loved him. Personally though, as a person you used logic for the decisions i make, this isn’t the 1950s. women need to provide for themselves because gender roles are fading and this country is becoming even more capitalist. y’all need to make smarter decisions that are not based on emotion.
These women speak this way because they have celebrity jobs. Housewives who sacrifice woking full time to care for there own children instead of babysitters, daycare, or nanny. They do need compensation. This is the hardest but most emotionally rewarding work. Because this is the sacrifice couples choose to make when becoming parents. But sad to say paycheck and credentials are not attached to full time mothers and housewives.
Adrienne standpoint was very strong so I really feel she had a personal relation to the story 😂 cause if u examine it from loni standpoint, she makes a VERY good point Adrienne seemed a bit emotionally invested
israel and his ex wife were together for 21 years. why do y’all think adrienne’s making that face when loni mentions jesse and aryn being together for 14 years? lmao
Exactly! Yes giving up everything to support your spouse may have been a consensual decision, but we as women do it in the hopes that they don't blow up and leave you regretting that decision! Jesse's ex has every right to be angry. He did her dirty and EVERYONE should be accountable for the hurt they give! Period! She acts so new sometimes..🙄 I mean I'm sure she wanted to be angry and blame (he who shall not be named) when he cheated.. come on girl! You're happy and satisfied now but betrayal is a hurtful and enfuriating thing to manage. Mutual or one sided, emotions are what they are!🤷🏾♀️
Dominique Hayes but she doesn’t want to, she always thinks she’s right, doesn’t even want to open herself to what other people say, she needs to realize she is still very green and needs to listen to women that have more experience
She realises the dudes are right on this. Men have had to support women for a long time and get nothing in return. Suddenly a woman does a fraction of the supporting men are expected to do and you want a reward for that? No thanks, calling Adriene a pickme won't be change that she's right.
4:55 "He ain't even her friend" Loni said it all right there! He got him a "good girl" to back him, he used that to HIS advantage, he was one top feeling good... And now she's out, because he's lusting... And ALL HER LOVE ❤️ feels like it was in vain... She's a beautiful woman, she has a beautiful soul... She's gonna be alright!!! I BELIEVE!!!
Yup and all because fame has opened up his options, why would he stay with the same woman who he has always had... See this is why i can't sacrifice everything for my husband... It's sad but more cases than not, men will leave the woman who have had their back for the "new toy"... I went through this already as well and know many faithful women who have experienced the same unfortunately.
So he went Hollywood and forgot about the woman that held him down while he was unemployed? It’s always is women making sacrifices for these men who wouldn’t do the same for us! This woman stayed true to herself and held her end of the bargain while her husband got lost in the LA sauce!
I understand what Ade is saying about owning up to your decisions, but when a sacrifice is made for the sake of someone else and they don't retaliate by any support or respect, I'm sorry but you can 100% blame that selfish person.
fatema abbas - Thank you. When one of the people in a marriage reneges on what was agreed upon behind closed doors, well what choice does the other person have but to get what they can recoup in court?? I mean really, come on now. What were her choices. Stay in New york WITHOUT her husband and father of her children?? Or move with him and keep her family together, but take the chance he leave them anyway?? Not much of a choice if you ask me. Doubt he ever would have turned down the role.
@@Jaden-if4me you dont know what their situation was. If it would've been that simple I'm sure they wouldve taken that route. Not everyone could afford nannies and sometimes whats left over from child care isn't even worth u working. Point is that because of her sacrifices he is where he is today! How ungreatful can a person possibly be
Im with Lonnie.. No offense Adrienne, but your not a mother and until you have to sacrifice a part of your self identity and career for them and so that your spouse can live their dreams then you cant relate. I don't think shrugging your shoulders and saying "Oh Well! she didnt have to be selfless", then you wont really understand. Even in divorce he should have made sure that she was okay mentally, emotionally, and financially... Just like she made sure he was okay to follow his dreams for 14 years
I agree!!! I think Adrienne can't agree because her husband left his first wife and mother of most of his children after being together 20 years. Shrugging her shoulders and saying that's life just seems so nonchalant and dismissive smh. Do better Adrienne.
@@mrsvr He didn't leave her, they parted on good terms because they outgrow each other plus he was single for sometime before he and adriana got together
I disagree with Adrienne. You should be prepared if something happens but he should pay as well. A man needs to know that if a woman sacrifices for you, he shouldn't be able to cheat on you and leave you in the dust with no consequences. People have this belief that women need to expect to be treated like dirt while the man doesn't face consequences.
I don’t know if anyone else notices this but every time they talk about marriage not working out or cheating or husbands leaving their wives for someone else, Adrienne always finds a way to blame them woman seemingly almost throwing some kind of shade at Israel’s ex wife.
Wow, I can't believe how dismissive Adrienne is being. I'm not married, nor do I have kids but I can completely understand where his ex-wife is coming from. This is especially sad because it happens all the time. Women sacrifice their career or give all they can to make their partners dreams come true and then when they become successful they cheat or leave their wives for younger and more attractive women. STOP THIS RIDE OR DIE BS! It's a mentality created by men to keep women complacent and in toxic relationships
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 your comment is SPOT on. People who share Adrienne's perspective need to listen & hear what Loni and Tamara are saying. More women than men lose themselves within their marriage to support their husbands dream. I also want to mention Omari Hardwick who plays Ghost in Power, he attributes ALL of his success to his wife because she held him down during the years before he became successful. They way he talks he has no plans to ever leave his wife.
@@lulubelle2009 omari hardwick is a grateful man and understand the concept of sacrifice and the importance of family, jesse is ungreatful and selfish, that's the difference.
MusiqQueen6 You started by accusing Adrienne of being dismissive, then ended by saying that women should stop the ride-or-die behavior, but it seems to me that you’re actually saying the same thing she said. Women have been conditioned to stop living their own lives to support someone else’s, and that needs to stop, yes you make sacrifices but that doesn’t mean you should sacrifice who you are as a person. There’s no question that a lot of women do that, I think her point was that women should stop doing that. We should stop feeling like we have to sacrifice who we are for love. Seems to me that Adrienne’s point is that there are 2 options. Either the woman chose to sacrifice even her own identity for her man (in which case she can’t blame anyone because it was her choice), or she did it because she felt like she didn’t have a choice (in which case that should have been a red flag, because women shouldn’t stay in a relationship where she has no choice about whether to sacrifice who she is or not).
faze a dab foreal but at least Tamara is wise enough to be quiet and listen. Adrienne is like an annoying teenage girl who feels like she knows better, rather than just listening and knowing she doesn’t have the wisdom to speak on the subject. 🤦🏻♀️
Spoken like a second wife Adrienne. What do you think was happening in those 21 years your husband was married to someone else? You got him after all of that was done.
Adrienne sounds so insensitive. That's that woman's real life and emotions. We don't have to agree but there's a way to say it. Adrienne is not mature and it shows. Reminds me of the way she criticized Monique 🤦🏾♀️
From what i've noticed, adrienne is always following the stronger/more famous person, she's what we call a follower, she would follow the bully not the victim.
It’s insensitive but true. No one forced that lady to leave her life. No one forced her to stay at home: Jesse was making BANK so they could’ve got a baby or daycare and she could’ve went to work
Jaden I don’t think that you realize that you sound like Jessie and her weren’t making decisions and agreements together? He wasn’t making bank until much later and regardless they seemed to have agreed on her being the main caretaker while he CHOSE to go off and work and try to make his dreams happen. He didn’t HAVE to do that either but chose to?? She deserves to be compensated in a fair way.
I’ve been with the same man since I was 15 yrs old 🙄; now its almost 22 yrs together 😱 (3 children 16 yr old , 14 yr old , 11 yr old ) and I’ve also sacrificed a lot for our family. Now, if something ever happens between us , you better believe I’m claiming a whole lot of support from him until I become fully independent. It’s so hard to start from 0 when u gave 💯 to a relationship ... and u put a stop on your career/life for the family. I know it’s by choice but that’s the sacrifice a lot of women go trough when in love ...🤷🏻♀️
You are wise. After sacrificing for 5 years, moving to a remote place , away from friends, after we fell out all i came out with after 5 years of my life is an iron box.
@GG G of course, usually women are sacrificing their career and life so that the couple have children, it's the woman's choice of course but the man wants children too so it is not really a choice, so if the couple break up, the woman deserve the money cause she worked for him and for the family for free.
I've been with my man since I was 16 I'm 23 now and he is my 1st & only relationship & I'm helping him raise his kids (I have none of my own), I've been with him for almost 1/3 of my ENTIRE LIFE, I also stayed selfless and sacrificed my entire being for the sake of his, if we split, I damn sure feel I deserve whatever I need to get my life together
They moved to California from New York. I’m pretty sure she couldn’t keep her job in New York and take care of their kids with him in their life. She helped take care of that home so he can pursue his very risky dream that so happened to work out. I honestly do not get how they are taking his side.
Never put your “all” into one person...... people change, love changes.... so always be your own Ambassador of Love towards yourself and recognize that anything can happen..... have your own life and finances...... those who giveth, will surely taketh away should they ever decide to leave!!! Never lose who you are for the sake of another or love!
Jesse needs to pay that woman for all the time, money and effort she invested into taking care of him and their family the past 14 years. He refuses to support her saying 'this is not a free ride'. But wasn't it a free ride when she was supporting his broke ass all those years before he became successful? She deserves the money for all the sacrifices she made to make their marriage work.
Can you please explain what time effort and especially money she put in to taking care of him. And it's not like she's not paying her anything, it's a 100k a month split into 50k child support and 50k spousal support
Something tells me that Adrienne is friends with Jessie and/or his new chick .. Kudos to his former wife for speaking up .. I hope Israel's former wife speaks up too. They deserve a platform too
@@jaejae5782 Oh plz - Reading comprehension is important hun. Learn how to comprehend what you read. Never implied that they weren't on good terms. What I did write is the ex's deserve the right to speak up too. Be blessed.
Jae Jae But they had the BUILD to that!! Do you really think his ex wife was happy when she first found out! Let’s not play like the reason Adrienne is saying what she saying may be due to the rumor that SHE was the other woman in Israel’s life! Of course she’s gone say “that’s life” when she reaps the benefits now! 🤷🏾♀️😂
The wife is hurt on top of hurt. In that powerful speech he gave he publicly acknowledge his wife. Thanking her for saving his life. This is how you thank her?
behind every great man is an even greater woman! she sacrificed her life so he could be the man he is today, and now that he's that man he drops her like she didn't do nothing for him and won't break her off? compensate that woman cause he owes her everything!
It's funny for Adrienne to ask if it was the other person's fault. Adrienne is always trashing Lenny. She said Lenny judged her for drinking, did not hold her hand on the plane and made her feel stupid for being scared, did not want to show affection publicly, never posted her on Instagram, and did not give her a key to his apartment. She's still not over Rob cheating on her either. So it's a little hypocritical for her to say Oh. that's life,.
Because she’s “happily married” now. So she’s feels like she above that kind of situation. Plus she’s kind of a pick-me so she usually sides with what she feels like men want to hear.
honestly i felt she was off... she started by saying I have a question and then she twisted it.. she had a dream with him? This woman was believed in his dream and invested but she did not get what she deserved. Who would not be angry??
Damarius Ingram I was low key upset that the girls was siding with Adrienne. Not everybody situation is the same. And like tamera said the key is a good support system. She might not have had one so they shouldn’t be speaking on the situation like they knew everything that happened.
I get it, and she’s completely entitled to financial compensation. This is why I keep saying as women we need to stop giving everything up then regretting it. We really do need to remember who we are. I feel like so many of us do everything to lift them up but rob ourselves of long term happiness.
Agreed. AND, it's SOO easy to have these strong opinions and attitude when it's NOT you. People had waay too many opinions during my divorce. Then when THEY had issues in their relationship or marriage; then they understood my situation.
Is she lying though shouldn't you take some responsibility for the part you played. "choices" were made which were good for that time now it is time for her to make different ones, move on and stop acting like a victim.
But she is right thought. Nothing is guarantee in life. She made the decision to move with Jesse to pursue his dream. She should balance between him and her instead of give give give.
@ Aleaf nawi she is making moves now by taking his money 💰 he owes her for the money she invested in his career. Adri is dead wrong. You can’t tell someone of 14 years to get over it. She’s going to be hurt she is going to be mad. Now she is going to be rich.
Adrienne would say that’s life 🙄 when she stole another woman’s husband or should I say .. was dating another women’s husband ! She would see it that way .
A woman can't "steal" a man. The man makes the decision to leave. He's not some object that can be taken. You can't steal a man if he doesn't want to be stolen. 🤷
@@katherinejordan8018 It says he could have been dissatisfied, is easily persuaded, is leaving an abusive relationship, etc. Too many variables to list. A woman pining after and dating a MARRIED man is not so hard to interpret...
@@mattthompson7638 I'm hearing a lot of excuses. So basically it's okay for him to leave for literally any reason but not for someone like Adrienne to just exist. Foh with that bullshit. No one and nothing can make a man leave a marriage. That's all on him. He's the one who makes the choice, not some other woman.
I think they might’ve forgotten, I’m waiting for what Jeannie has to say since she always chimes in with her own story when it comes to these topics... 😭👀🙊
So what I'm getting from this is she did her duties as a wife. Sacrificed her life for her kids and husband assuming it was going tp impacted her in in a good way long term. He couldn't even respect her at all. I Remember she use to get so much hate because people believed she wasn't "Attractive" enough for Jesse. Smh I Agree with Loni and Adrienne yet again is being a pick me.
She deserves spousal support. He ruined her life. He shaouldve left her alome with his bum A. She could've married a real loyal loving man and had children with him were it not for ugly A jessie
@@joedon-hb4nl Pick Me is a “person who begs for the attention, acceptance and approval of a certain group in different things they say. In most case, it’s to attain the attention, acceptance and approval of the opposite sex.”
Say it louder for the babes in the back, Loni! I was in a relationship for over 10 years. We were engaged for 2 of the last years. We were building a life together as people who plan to marry do. I moved out of state for him and his career. After we moved he completely emotionally neglected and abandoned me. Yes, your own happiness is your own responsibility. But we are only human, so when we struggle we look to our tribes/villages to seek refuge and support. All I needed from him was friendship. Humanity. I was lucky to have support elsewhere. It was just hard to face that I no longer could rely on him for friendship. It's hard to face that someone who has been with you for so many years could just be done. That was the hardest hurdle to overcome. I am a phenomenal woman, I was in a struggle and he didn't commit to good & bad times. So I moved on. I do not blame him... it was disappointing. I am back to healthy and happy and being my dope queen self. Thank you, next.
Alot of people defending Adrienne would be the same ones calling Jessie's ex heartless if she refused to help him pursue his dreams. It was a major decision but marriage is about sacrifice at times.
but that's exactly what A is saying, that marriage come with sacrifices, i didn't hear her say the Ex doesn't deserve being paid, she simply said marriage deserves sacrifices, and we can't blame the other person if doesn't work out, because we don't know if the sacrifice will pan out or not.
@@Q_live Adrienne came across as flippant and very dismissive of Aryn's feelings. We all know that marriage is a risk and it may or may not work. That point doesn't need to be reiterated. But to make it seem like if you sacrifice and support your spouse and they then up and leave you, and you should just 'get over it' and accept your choices, is rude, insensitive, and foolish. Marriage is all about sacrifice. I'm not saying Jesse is a bad guy. I'm just saying he needs to take care of his family regardless.
If she was working for 14 years, putting food on the table, taking care of the kids while her husband is trying to break into the entertainment industry (which he did) but the relationship didn’t workout afterwards, give her EVERYTHING!!
@Charles Cason....I'm sure she is hurt that her 14 year relationship/marriage didn't work out. You talk about her being average Jessie is not a great looking guy! Additionally, throwing in the "chunky" is just so rude...There are stunning, skinny women getting left by their men as I write this.
Let's also acknowledge the fact that these are sacrifices that women are expected to make. Let's not erase her very significant contribution. As a woman you have to 'support your man's,all that 'behind every successful man' thing.I fully agree with Loni
I think that Jesse got BIG HEADED and a HUGE EGO from Fame, Money, and everyone telling him how GORGEOUS he is!!! 🗣🗣🗣 It didn’t help that people were callin his WIFE ugly and that he could get a Beautiful Instagram Model!!!!
I think your either a strong man or your not regardless of fame or wealth or what people say about getting him a prettier wife, cos all I'm seeing is gorgeous woman right there. Look at Denzil, now think about his wealth, his fame and his looks but he's with the same strong woman who'd also the mother to his children.
Def. He is wring for what he did.. if he fell out of love fine. But take care of who took care of u and yours. She also needs a fucking makeover. Best revenge is success
Honestly the wife is not even ugly. People were just expecting his wife to look like all the other celebrities wives. If she wore makeup and weave and had surgery then no one would complain
I love Adrienne, but I think she's missing the point of spousal support. His career was a joint investment, why should he be the only one getting dividends? He left her, it's not her job to make his life easier. Don't hold on to bitterness, but at this point it's all business and I'd take whatever I could get.
I thought she was speaking about the ex blaming him for her sacrifices. I didn't think she was against spousal support. Perhaps more was said beyond that clip.
Adrienne is in a glass house, she better chill before she finds herself in the same situation. This was a union and she dedicated her life to support his dreams and she should be compensated for that
I disagree with Adrienne's point of view but I do not understand this "pick me" mess. If she agrees with the man's side then you call her a "pick me"??? She has the right to her opinion as we do. The main ones that use this "pick me" phrase are the ones that be hoping and praying that they get picked one day. It is just another dumb way to label women when we have enough labels already.
Adrienne should stop treating her love life as a business proposal.... What you prepare for and focus on you will attract. I always say people should not have a firm opinion of a subject or matter without expierencing it.
"For better or for worse" She trusted her wedding vows they made before God so to me it's no different than a couple who decides Not to get a pre-nup. He did her dirty. Period.
She been married for 3 days and now she knows it all. She kills me. I want them to revisit this conversation after Adrienne has been married for 10 years with kids. And Jeannie would have felt differently if this happened before her divorce. Loni speaks he truth period
I spent 15 years of my life putting man in front of my own happiness to make sure they became successful. What it that got me bankrupt and broken hearted. I will take the blame for not putting myself first. But, I will not take blame for being kind hearted, loving, understanding, and a bomb ass girlfriend to my exes. They shouldn't had token money from me if love wasn't the goal at the end. She deserves money for the emotional sacrifice she put in.
What about the decisions he was a part of making Adrienne? Doesn't he also have to take responsibility for those too? He isn't and wasn't blind to the sacrifices that she was making whilst supporting him. He was a part of those decisions too. And he now has to take responsibility for those decisions by giving her, her fair share! And in marriage you shouldn't be making decisions based on how it will benefit you when the marriage fails. You should be making the best decisions for your family!
Adrienne tread carefully with what you are saying........ she gave up her career and her life for this man, this exactly what happened to my mother, the difference is my mother had family in Europe, they flew us the hell out of Nigeria after my father left us in penury and we starving, until this happen to you Adrienne, you really have no right to be speaking on this topic, I cannot support a man or woman who just up and leave his or her family like they don’t matter squat.
You can't give up your life for a man and then expect that the man will support you, even long after the relationship is done. That man didn't owe your mother anything. She made her own decisions. That's why, regardless of whether you are married or not, you have to be financial independent.
Nikki Lyn well until you are in that situation, I don’t think you will understand, when your man, starts having affairs, having other kids outside his marriage, doesn’t come home two weeks at a time, missing your kids birthday, having fight with your wife, your mother abusing your wife in front of your kids and you think is alright, Shame on all the women who sided with this guy, am speaking as a man who’s mother when through this, this lady has very right to be mad, and he just seem selfish as hell. I can never support anyone who that to his or her family.
Anna Doe yes shame on you and furthermore my mum is in her sixty and all of her kids are in their 30s, I speak from what I saw mother go through with my father, and with all the support she gave him throughout their marriage, my mother had to raise three kids into adulthood with two of them with disabilities, am sorry Adrienne was insensitive and an absolute moron in this clip, speaking like she know, and by the way my mother taught me about sacrifice thank you very much, and am saying it again until you all are in this situation, you all need to have several seats. Hopefully none of you will be in this situation, because it will be a very sad day for you. The man was wrong plain and simple. And as for Adrienne she will so learn a more about empathy and sympathy, she was basically blaming and shaming the woman, am not here for haters like Adrienne making stupid comments like, hopefully Adrienne doesn’t find herself going through this😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
Adrienne speaking as “the other woman” that broke up a nearly 20 year marriage! If Israel do her the way he did his 1st wife Adrienne gonna be Jjjjjjjjust as Mad! #girlbye
If one thing waiting to exhale taught us is never build a man up because when he gets to the top he will dump u for someone else. All of a sudden ur not good enough.
I Because when you help propel your spouse or partner into a higher social status which affords them a certain amount access and visibility, that leads to more temptations (New levels New Devils). It takes a strong man with mountains of integrity to grasp all that money, power, popularity, and influence yet still humble himself and come home to his “normal” wife and family and feel fulfilled. It’s insecurity and fear of missing out. Hopefully Jessie made the right decision and didn’t ruin a great beautiful thing chasing silicon in Calabasas.
You can tell Tam and Adrienne feel “above” this issue and it’s sad. As much as Tam has established for herself outside of Adam, she would be a complete reck if their marriage ended (& rightfully so). And Adrienne must have forgot the things she used to say about Lenny and how she changed herself for him. Cause she sounds mad hypercritical now that she married. Smh, I get so tired of them sometimes bc they both always sound so patronizing towards other women and their situations.
I completely agree with what Adrienne said about taking responsibility for your choices! We cannot lose our individuality as a person within the relationship, its hard not to because it is easy to get caught up in the love but you always have to think who am I and where would I be if this doesnt work out.
Tianna Miller According to Chris Brown, she knew Israel was married! I mean Hollywood is small af and people talk so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true! You noticed they haven’t spoken on Chris in a min! 🤷🏾♀️😂
I agree with Loni all the way! It is very easy for someone to give advice or to chime in when it hasn't happened to them, or they have never been in this type of situation. Oh and I suppose it's her fault too that he cheated on her? .....so I've heard.
She sacrificed so he could become the man he is . Pay Her,PERIODT
That's Right! #Get that money💰
Periodtt
THANK YOU
Money is not going to bring back the time and energy she spent building her family. She must just try to find herself again. Divorce is never easy
@@zanelepetu4956 money will help her rebuild herself, she can't start from zéro now that she sacrificed so much, she's a very smart woman, i'm sure the money will help her build a company etc...
This is why some women refuse to build a man or marry a man who isn't financially successful. This is the reason why women go for the men who have already made it.
Am typing an Amen to this
Exactly proves my point. I had this thought of idea since the beginning. They leave you after they became sucessful
yup and for most bm they get on and leave you for a non black
EXACTLY I WILL NEVER HELP A MAN
@@positivevibes8516 you have some personal stuff to deal with
Adrienne sounds so defensive and she’s doing the most with those faces. She’s acting like this story is about Israel and Meleasa. She needs to chill.
AnonVocals YES! exactly what I think too. It’s like this is hitting home for her because this is the same situation as Israel and his ex
That's guilt for you. No matter what anyone says about Israel not cheating with Adrienne therefore he got divorced she acts Hella guilty when cheating, divorces or spousal support comes up, it touches a nerve for her
😂😂 right! And Adrienne’s been in that marriage for what a year! Who’s to say it’s going to work out? Adrienne hasn’t had children nor has she gotten divorced and her lack of empathy shows that in this clip.
A hit dog will holler! 🤷🏽♀️
ikrr girl was YELLING she was so defensive
Adrienne is only saying this because she was the second wife. She got to reap the hard work of Israel’s first wife
Yooooooh so deep
Facts!
WOOSH
Lol daaaamn
THAT PART SIS 💯
If Adrienne gets divorced I don't want to see a single tear. In her words "That's life" 🤷♀️
tyerra1213 THIS
Even if she did get divorced. She has no kids. She aint your regular girl out here making regular money. She would never understand what its like ... she needs to have several seats
😄😄
I agree
As if because "that's life" it doesn't hurt. Adrienne's take invalidates what this woman has gone through. She is saying oh well you chose to support you husband so... is that not a wife is supposed to do and vice versa? Does it always work out no but it hurts like he'll when it does not. And when it was a marriage and one with children shouldn't the dissolution of the assets be fair?
Loni Speaking nothing but facts.
Sometimes we lose ourselves trying to prove to others how much we will do for them when in reality they won’t do the same. 😥
Wow. Yes...
True
Cici love I needed that, thank you.
Well that is what marriage is about. You don't get married "temporarily" the vows say till death. Now if you don't honor those vows is one thing, but you dont get married thinking soon this will end. Adrienne needs to be careful what she puts out there cause everything comes back to you
Unfortunately
When you marry the man God wants for you, you will never have to compromise/sacrifice your dreams...
...because he won’t ask you to.
A voice of reason
We all make sacrifices in marriage, I have his back and he has mine. That may mean making a sacrifice for the good of your family unit.
Talking Tina I’m willing to sacrifice a lot in my marriage, like which city to live in etc. Im not willing to sacrifice my dreams and life goals though. And honestly I would side eye a man who asked me to sacrifice specifically this.
Nobantu Sibeko what if your man fell on hard times would you sacrifice to build him back up? You would step up to the plate? Or put your ME gloves on and walk away?
Talking Tina Of course I would stay with him. I’m not leaving my husband because he fell on hard times. But I don’t see where my sacrificing of my own goals fit in in this situation. You don’t have to sacrifice your life goals to bring another human being back up from hard times.
I can hear the frustration in Lonis voice and I'm here for it. She's the only one taking sense
Loni’s right! All that time spent together, like ok if we’re not working anymore we’re not working but the way Jesse is acting it’s as if he doesn’t even see her as a friend anymore.
@@UrbanDecayLova247 we don't know what is going on behind closed doors, and she's interviewing with the media all over the place. I wouldn't be friends with someone who would do that
adrienne doesnt seem to realize that the wife was the bread winner while he was an unemployed actor for years lol
And??
rainie chang so?
@@britbritnicole9211 well usually the ladies on the real would be up in arms.. She paid and supported him and then he cheated and left her. But yes the wife should have known that he was gonna leave her at some point and should have never try to be his ride or die bs. Take care of yourself if you man is an unemployed actor dont throw your money and career to help him at the expense of youtself
rainie chang So does that mean he has to be w/ her, pretending to love her for the rest of their lives? Adrienne is saying that you can’t assume that he’s gonna want to be w/ you forever. People change.
Preach! She invested her time and money for him to become successful for the family. That's what marriage is about. So yes she deserves every penny
Adrianne answered like a second wife would
Bobbie Bennett my exact thought
This. !!! 😂😂😂
As expected 😂
I laughed way to hard
This is painfully true 😂
Adrienne really pissed me off in this segment. Thank you Lonni for the facts!!! 🙌🏽
You can tell Adrienne has only been married for 2.5 seconds. Talk to us in 14 years sis.
I mean seriously
Seriously, she's still a newlywed, but she acts like she's been married for a lifetime or something 🙄
Yes 🙌🙌
nah she was right but so were Tamera and Loni.
Y'all get your facts straight it has been like 2 or 3 years
Nah They ALL missing the point except Loni. This woman was WORKING so he can be an actor he didn’t get Greys Anatomy just like that. It’s 14 years of working and paying bills this woman did all so he can get to where he is. SHE DESERVES EVERY PENNY
What do u think men have been doing for women who want to be famous for all these years😱😱😱
THIS!
True she deserves every single penny. That is why men is the natural breadwinner cause they dont give birth. Women sacrifice their body to give birth to a baby. And for her to be the breadwinner and giving birth to their children that’s a lot of giving on her part and lots of taking on his part. She deserves half of what he is earning now. Period.
And as a black man she can get half plus little more i would create shows on Netflix and give her cocreater credit keep her check coming in lol
Umm he was working as a teacher so he was working just as much as he was
When this honeymoon phase wears out with Adrienne I will love to see where her perspective will be.
Kim Wright THIS
Exactly!
Thank you!!
I’m patiently waiting..😂
Well she said it’s not 🤷🏾♀️
Adrienne got into relationships with men that did that to their woman. She didn't care then, she doesn't care now.
My opinion.
Mani C yes🙌🙌
Facts
Adrienne should have sat out for this one. The ex wife deserves every penny
Never lose sleep over the small stuff she was literally the bread winner of the family. She worked for years while he was unemployed & a struggling actor, same with Kevin Hart and his wife.pls get your facts straight before you try and argue.
Loni is the only one being honest here. Adrienne lowkey supporting Jessie .
Exactly! I feel like Adrienne is basically saying, well Aaron you can't be mad at Jessie for the sacrifices you made, that's on you.
Adrienne annoys me sometimes
@@starlove6492 that is what she is saying. Its sad but true. I dont think she deserves nothing for her sacrifice but she also can't place the blame on Jesse either just cause he no longer wants her. She did make those decisions about her own life or lack their of
And?
substantia nigra She´s not supporting Jessie. She´s saying don´t make foolish decisions out of love. At the end of the day, Jessie´s ex wife made some bad choices. That is life. I´ve seen so many people make horrible choices out of love. Adrienne is saying be realistic and don´t sacrifice your happiness for someone else´s. That was her point.
Adrienne needs to be quiet... She can’t relate to a woman who makes sacrifices for the household, children and spouse. Girl just hush 🤫 🤐
she cannot relate because she has entered into marriage with financial security of her own. I think she is speaking solely on individuals choosing to make sacrifices but when those sacrifices don't pay off, they turn around and blame everyone else for their original decision. She is correct--with every sacrifice you make, it is a risk that all will turn out as expected. Hardly likely when dealing with human beings. I think expecting spousal support and all of that is a separate matter from who is to blame.
She can relate because her mother
i agree with adrienne and y’all. adrienne is making logical sense but i don’t believe it’s “all her fault”. both of them, the woman AND MAN, knew what the women was getting into. he knew she would sacrifice her life for him but he fucked her over. that’s cheese. loni is right she just loved him.
Personally though, as a person you used logic for the decisions i make, this isn’t the 1950s. women need to provide for themselves because gender roles are fading and this country is becoming even more capitalist. y’all need to make smarter decisions that are not based on emotion.
Ms. Lalady i agree she needs to stop speaking on things she knows nothing about
These women speak this way because they have celebrity jobs. Housewives who sacrifice woking full time to care for there own children instead of babysitters, daycare, or nanny. They do need compensation. This is the hardest but most emotionally rewarding work. Because this is the sacrifice couples choose to make when becoming parents. But sad to say paycheck and credentials are not attached to full time mothers and housewives.
Adrienne standpoint was very strong so I really feel she had a personal relation to the story 😂 cause if u examine it from loni standpoint, she makes a VERY good point
Adrienne seemed a bit emotionally invested
israel and his ex wife were together for 21 years. why do y’all think adrienne’s making that face when loni mentions jesse and aryn being together for 14 years? lmao
Damn 14 years a long time.
They were married 5 years
@@malias2877 and?.???? The point is they were together for 14yrs.
Not really your just living too fast
I am 36 and have been in a relationship for 20 years. Still going strong. 🙏🏼🥰
But not married marriage is a different type of animal
Adrienne has a lot to learn 😔
Ooooh yes ma’am.
Facts. She is always ignorant.. isnt she like 35
A lot!! Still got those honeymoon goggles on.
Exactly! Yes giving up everything to support your spouse may have been a consensual decision, but we as women do it in the hopes that they don't blow up and leave you regretting that decision! Jesse's ex has every right to be angry. He did her dirty and EVERYONE should be accountable for the hurt they give! Period! She acts so new sometimes..🙄 I mean I'm sure she wanted to be angry and blame (he who shall not be named) when he cheated.. come on girl! You're happy and satisfied now but betrayal is a hurtful and enfuriating thing to manage. Mutual or one sided, emotions are what they are!🤷🏾♀️
Dominique Hayes but she doesn’t want to, she always thinks she’s right, doesn’t even want to open herself to what other people say, she needs to realize she is still very green and needs to listen to women that have more experience
Guys...Adrienne is a PICK ME. Her opinion is always going to lean towards the man's because she likes to appear agreeable...to MEN.🙂
kim berley Or she takes the side of the bigger celebrity...(regardless of how wrong they are)
@@Social_Pugatory i never noticed that. You might be right
Kim Berley 👏💯.
kim berley I really like this show and respect the hosts but ADRIENNE YOU GOTTA STOP AND I HOPE YOU READING. THIS MAMA
She realises the dudes are right on this. Men have had to support women for a long time and get nothing in return. Suddenly a woman does a fraction of the supporting men are expected to do and you want a reward for that? No thanks, calling Adriene a pickme won't be change that she's right.
4:55 "He ain't even her friend" Loni said it all right there! He got him a "good girl" to back him, he used that to HIS advantage, he was one top feeling good... And now she's out, because he's lusting... And ALL HER LOVE ❤️ feels like it was in vain... She's a beautiful woman, she has a beautiful soul... She's gonna be alright!!! I BELIEVE!!!
Yup and all because fame has opened up his options, why would he stay with the same woman who he has always had... See this is why i can't sacrifice everything for my husband... It's sad but more cases than not, men will leave the woman who have had their back for the "new toy"... I went through this already as well and know many faithful women who have experienced the same unfortunately.
So he went Hollywood and forgot about the woman that held him down while he was unemployed? It’s always is women making sacrifices for these men who wouldn’t do the same for us! This woman stayed true to herself and held her end of the bargain while her husband got lost in the LA sauce!
Adrienne you need to check yourself. Having empathy will do you a world of good...
AMEN. SERIOUSLY. Rude. Attitude.
Empathy is a gift I believe and some people just don't have it and never will.
Jamecia 😎
SWEETIE...AGREE💃💕🏃
She can’t have compassion because it hits too close to home to what she knows her husband has done that’s really where her attitude is coming from....
Exactly...hopefully she never ends up on the other side of a marriage...no sympathy at all.
Adrienne just need to be quiet she is so quick to talk. Run that lady her money!
Adrienne is speaking from the place of her experience with Israel’s ex-wife.
I understand what Ade is saying about owning up to your decisions, but when a sacrifice is made for the sake of someone else and they don't retaliate by any support or respect, I'm sorry but you can 100% blame that selfish person.
And its a marriage!!!
fatema abbas - Thank you. When one of the people in a marriage reneges on what was agreed upon behind closed doors, well what choice does the other person have but to get what they can recoup in court?? I mean really, come on now. What were her choices. Stay in New york WITHOUT her husband and father of her children?? Or move with him and keep her family together, but take the chance he leave them anyway?? Not much of a choice if you ask me. Doubt he ever would have turned down the role.
But she didn’t HAVE to make that sacrifice. Even when the money came in they could’ve got nanny’s or daycare so the wife can go to work
@@Jaden-if4me you dont know what their situation was. If it would've been that simple I'm sure they wouldve taken that route. Not everyone could afford nannies and sometimes whats left over from child care isn't even worth u working. Point is that because of her sacrifices he is where he is today! How ungreatful can a person possibly be
fatema abbas So, you don´t think on some level she didn´t know this was going to happen??
Im with Lonnie.. No offense Adrienne, but your not a mother and until you have to sacrifice a part of your self identity and career for them and so that your spouse can live their dreams then you cant relate. I don't think shrugging your shoulders and saying "Oh Well! she didnt have to be selfless", then you wont really understand. Even in divorce he should have made sure that she was okay mentally, emotionally, and financially... Just like she made sure he was okay to follow his dreams for 14 years
I agree!!! I think Adrienne can't agree because her husband left his first wife and mother of most of his children after being together 20 years. Shrugging her shoulders and saying that's life just seems so nonchalant and dismissive smh. Do better Adrienne.
Velvet Rives he didn’t just leave her they both decided to move on
I agree. Adrienne’s opinions are always so simplistic and dismissive of all the factors. I agree with Loni completely!!
@@mrsvr He didn't leave her, they parted on good terms because they outgrow each other plus he was single for sometime before he and adriana got together
Cindygirl 88 well said sis!
I disagree with Adrienne. You should be prepared if something happens but he should pay as well. A man needs to know that if a woman sacrifices for you, he shouldn't be able to cheat on you and leave you in the dust with no consequences. People have this belief that women need to expect to be treated like dirt while the man doesn't face consequences.
I don’t know if anyone else notices this but every time they talk about marriage not working out or cheating or husbands leaving their wives for someone else, Adrienne always finds a way to blame them woman seemingly almost throwing some kind of shade at Israel’s ex wife.
Wow, I can't believe how dismissive Adrienne is being. I'm not married, nor do I have kids but I can completely understand where his ex-wife is coming from. This is especially sad because it happens all the time. Women sacrifice their career or give all they can to make their partners dreams come true and then when they become successful they cheat or leave their wives for younger and more attractive women. STOP THIS RIDE OR DIE BS! It's a mentality created by men to keep women complacent and in toxic relationships
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 your comment is SPOT on. People who share Adrienne's perspective need to listen & hear what Loni and Tamara are saying. More women than men lose themselves within their marriage to support their husbands dream. I also want to mention Omari Hardwick who plays Ghost in Power, he attributes ALL of his success to his wife because she held him down during the years before he became successful. They way he talks he has no plans to ever leave his wife.
Well said 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@@lulubelle2009 omari hardwick is a grateful man and understand the concept of sacrifice and the importance of family, jesse is ungreatful and selfish, that's the difference.
MusiqQueen6 You started by accusing Adrienne of being dismissive, then ended by saying that women should stop the ride-or-die behavior, but it seems to me that you’re actually saying the same thing she said. Women have been conditioned to stop living their own lives to support someone else’s, and that needs to stop, yes you make sacrifices but that doesn’t mean you should sacrifice who you are as a person. There’s no question that a lot of women do that, I think her point was that women should stop doing that. We should stop feeling like we have to sacrifice who we are for love. Seems to me that Adrienne’s point is that there are 2 options. Either the woman chose to sacrifice even her own identity for her man (in which case she can’t blame anyone because it was her choice), or she did it because she felt like she didn’t have a choice (in which case that should have been a red flag, because women shouldn’t stay in a relationship where she has no choice about whether to sacrifice who she is or not).
Facts
Adrienne you don’t know that type of struggle you married wealthy...
Exactly
Exactly
Yes. She needs to go google and apologize lol
Same as Tamera!🤦🏽♀️
faze a dab foreal but at least Tamara is wise enough to be quiet and listen. Adrienne is like an annoying teenage girl who feels like she knows better, rather than just listening and knowing she doesn’t have the wisdom to speak on the subject. 🤦🏻♀️
We NEVER got the Part 2 to this clip. It was getting good!
Spoken like a second wife Adrienne. What do you think was happening in those 21 years your husband was married to someone else? You got him after all of that was done.
I'm so with Loniii... Adrienne shut up plz. She probably can't agree bcz her husband did the same maybe to his ex wife. 😑
Marwa Ech exactly
Yup. He did.. so she needs to shut up about this one.
Factz
Marwa Ech I was thinking the same thing 🤦🏻♀️.
100%
Adrienne sounds so insensitive. That's that woman's real life and emotions. We don't have to agree but there's a way to say it. Adrienne is not mature and it shows. Reminds me of the way she criticized Monique 🤦🏾♀️
And Jeanie saying a whole lot of nothin' and making a whold lott noise right next to her🙄🙄
From what i've noticed, adrienne is always following the stronger/more famous person, she's what we call a follower, she would follow the bully not the victim.
@@janevego i think that jeannie is sick, she's clearly not in her right mind.
It’s insensitive but true. No one forced that lady to leave her life. No one forced her to stay at home: Jesse was making BANK so they could’ve got a baby or daycare and she could’ve went to work
Jaden I don’t think that you realize that you sound like Jessie and her weren’t making decisions and agreements together? He wasn’t making bank until much later and regardless they seemed to have agreed on her being the main caretaker while he CHOSE to go off and work and try to make his dreams happen. He didn’t HAVE to do that either but chose to?? She deserves to be compensated in a fair way.
Loni right. I like Adrienne but she swimming in cool aid... What did she sacrifice?? Oh pahlease child
Love often times takes sacrifice, and I totally empathize with Erin. She invested and put the time in for her family. I agree with Lonni!
I’ve been with the same man since I was 15 yrs old 🙄; now its almost 22 yrs together 😱 (3 children 16 yr old , 14 yr old , 11 yr old ) and I’ve also sacrificed a lot for our family. Now, if something ever happens between us , you better believe I’m claiming a whole lot of support from him until I become fully independent. It’s so hard to start from 0 when u gave 💯 to a relationship ... and u put a stop on your career/life for the family. I know it’s by choice but that’s the sacrifice a lot of women go trough when in love ...🤷🏻♀️
You are wise. After sacrificing for 5 years, moving to a remote place , away from friends, after we fell out all i came out with after 5 years of my life is an iron box.
GG G yes!!!!!
@GG G of course, usually women are sacrificing their career and life so that the couple have children, it's the woman's choice of course but the man wants children too so it is not really a choice, so if the couple break up, the woman deserve the money cause she worked for him and for the family for free.
I've been with my man since I was 16 I'm 23 now and he is my 1st & only relationship & I'm helping him raise his kids (I have none of my own), I've been with him for almost 1/3 of my ENTIRE LIFE, I also stayed selfless and sacrificed my entire being for the sake of his, if we split, I damn sure feel I deserve whatever I need to get my life together
@WhatMichelleLikes101 This is the type of emotional choice making that gets you in bad situations. You gotta use your brain too not just your heart.
They moved to California from New York. I’m pretty sure she couldn’t keep her job in New York and take care of their kids with him in their life. She helped take care of that home so he can pursue his very risky dream that so happened to work out. I honestly do not get how they are taking his side.
Adrienne always talking the nonsense🙄🤦♀️
Never put your “all” into one person...... people change, love changes.... so always be your own Ambassador of Love towards yourself and recognize that anything can happen..... have your own life and finances...... those who giveth, will surely taketh away should they ever decide to leave!!! Never lose who you are for the sake of another or love!
Jesse needs to pay that woman for all the time, money and effort she invested into taking care of him and their family the past 14 years. He refuses to support her saying 'this is not a free ride'. But wasn't it a free ride when she was supporting his broke ass all those years before he became successful? She deserves the money for all the sacrifices she made to make their marriage work.
Like the Amazon owner.. he gave his ex.. billions..
mbxo__ YESSSS!!!
Exactly
Can you please explain what time effort and especially money she put in to
taking care of him. And it's not like she's not paying her anything, it's a 100k a month split into 50k child support and 50k spousal support
Something tells me that Adrienne is friends with Jessie and/or his new chick .. Kudos to his former wife for speaking up .. I hope Israel's former wife speaks up too. They deserve a platform too
Adrienne is too prideful to admit that someone did her wrong or to wait for apologies she's all about taking revenge in silence
Oh plz. Learn your facts.
Adrienne Isreal & his ex wife & the kids are all on good terms.
So stop trying to create drama
@@jaejae5782 Oh plz - Reading comprehension is important hun. Learn how to comprehend what you read. Never implied that they weren't on good terms. What I did write is the ex's deserve the right to speak up too. Be blessed.
no , adrienne is always on the men's side , she will always put the blame on women
Jae Jae But they had the BUILD to that!! Do you really think his ex wife was happy when she first found out! Let’s not play like the reason Adrienne is saying what she saying may be due to the rumor that SHE was the other woman in Israel’s life! Of course she’s gone say “that’s life” when she reaps the benefits now! 🤷🏾♀️😂
The wife is hurt on top of hurt. In that powerful speech he gave he publicly acknowledge his wife. Thanking her for saving his life. This is how you thank her?
behind every great man is an even greater woman! she sacrificed her life so he could be the man he is today, and now that he's that man he drops her like she didn't do nothing for him and won't break her off? compensate that woman cause he owes her everything!
I disagree with Adrienne "Oh well" attitude.
It's funny for Adrienne to ask if it was the other person's fault. Adrienne is always trashing Lenny. She said Lenny judged her for drinking, did not hold her hand on the plane and made her feel stupid for being scared, did not want to show affection publicly, never posted her on Instagram, and did not give her a key to his apartment. She's still not over Rob cheating on her either. So it's a little hypocritical for her to say Oh. that's life,.
Good Lord 🙌😂 u cracked this code lol frfr
Because she’s “happily married” now. So she’s feels like she above that kind of situation. Plus she’s kind of a pick-me so she usually sides with what she feels like men want to hear.
Marriage is forever, and if u statrt to make back up plans you are making an exit plan and u have departed from the promise,
Caroline Vhudzijena it’s so scary to not think about making one though.
Marriage is not forever. That's the story they sold to women to compel them to stay through ANYTHING.
Marriage is not forver.
Gabrielle Reid Then don't get married? Why waste time
And here goes Adrienne again 🙄🙄...it's different when a couple meets after or during success vrs meeting before success.she deserves every penny.
adrienne dont eat your words...life have a way of making you eat what you put out
lakeshia Fuller this part!
♻️
honestly i felt she was off... she started by saying I have a question and then she twisted it.. she had a dream with him? This woman was believed in his dream and invested but she did not get what she deserved. Who would not be angry??
yes i will be furious
Like chris brown said she been fucking married men since the beginning of time she still has this side chick mentality
Loni is the only one speaking straight facts.
Damarius Ingram I was low key upset that the girls was siding with Adrienne. Not everybody situation is the same. And like tamera said the key is a good support system. She might not have had one so they shouldn’t be speaking on the situation like they knew everything that happened.
I get it, and she’s completely entitled to financial compensation. This is why I keep saying as women we need to stop giving everything up then regretting it. We really do need to remember who we are. I feel like so many of us do everything to lift them up but rob ourselves of long term happiness.
The younger women aren’t understanding really what loni is saying
I'm sorry. Adrienne's attitude is so annoying. I get having an opinion, but you don't have to make faces every single second.
Agreed. AND, it's SOO easy to have these strong opinions and attitude when it's NOT you. People had waay too many opinions during my divorce. Then when THEY had issues in their relationship or marriage; then they understood my situation.
Is she lying though shouldn't you take some responsibility for the part you played. "choices" were made which were good for that time now it is time for her to make different ones, move on and stop acting like a victim.
But she is right thought. Nothing is guarantee in life. She made the decision to move with Jesse to pursue his dream. She should balance between him and her instead of give give give.
Adrienne is a selfish brat
@ Aleaf nawi she is making moves now by taking his money 💰 he owes her for the money she invested in his career. Adri is dead wrong. You can’t tell someone of 14 years to get over it. She’s going to be hurt she is going to be mad. Now she is going to be rich.
Adrienne would say that’s life 🙄 when she stole another woman’s husband or should I say .. was dating another women’s husband ! She would see it that way .
A woman can't "steal" a man. The man makes the decision to leave. He's not some object that can be taken. You can't steal a man if he doesn't want to be stolen. 🤷
@@katherinejordan8018 A woman can have the 'intention' to steal a married man. What does that say for Adrienne's character?
@@mattthompson7638 What does it say about the man's character if he's the one who leaves? 🤔
@@katherinejordan8018 It says he could have been dissatisfied, is easily persuaded, is leaving an abusive relationship, etc. Too many variables to list. A woman pining after and dating a MARRIED man is not so hard to interpret...
@@mattthompson7638 I'm hearing a lot of excuses. So basically it's okay for him to leave for literally any reason but not for someone like Adrienne to just exist. Foh with that bullshit. No one and nothing can make a man leave a marriage. That's all on him. He's the one who makes the choice, not some other woman.
Bout 4 hours later....where's "part 2??" 💀😭GET IT TOGETHER
I am also waiting for part 2
I think they might’ve forgotten, I’m waiting for what Jeannie has to say since she always chimes in with her own story when it comes to these topics... 😭👀🙊
Still searching for part 2👀
Adrienne don't get if because she doesn't have children and never take care à man!
They are being short sighted, this woman made major sacrifices for this guy. She clearly believed in him and then got dumped, not fair...
So what I'm getting from this is she did her duties as a wife. Sacrificed her life for her kids and husband assuming it was going tp impacted her in in a good way long term. He couldn't even respect her at all. I Remember she use to get so much hate because people believed she wasn't "Attractive" enough for Jesse. Smh I Agree with Loni and Adrienne yet again is being a pick me.
And she likes to pretend that men are innocent angels, when there are men out here willing to use women for a come up and then drop them.
She deserves spousal support. He ruined her life. He shaouldve left her alome with his bum A. She could've married a real loyal loving man and had children with him were it not for ugly A jessie
Layla Adams what is a pick me??
@@fayepatrice1672 Exactly imagine if the roles were reversed whew chileeee the Misogyny.
@@joedon-hb4nl Pick Me is a “person who begs for the attention, acceptance and approval of a certain group in different things they say. In most case, it’s to attain the attention, acceptance and approval of the opposite sex.”
Say it louder for the babes in the back, Loni! I was in a relationship for over 10 years. We were engaged for 2 of the last years. We were building a life together as people who plan to marry do. I moved out of state for him and his career. After we moved he completely emotionally neglected and abandoned me. Yes, your own happiness is your own responsibility. But we are only human, so when we struggle we look to our tribes/villages to seek refuge and support. All I needed from him was friendship. Humanity. I was lucky to have support elsewhere. It was just hard to face that I no longer could rely on him for friendship. It's hard to face that someone who has been with you for so many years could just be done. That was the hardest hurdle to overcome. I am a phenomenal woman, I was in a struggle and he didn't commit to good & bad times. So I moved on. I do not blame him... it was disappointing. I am back to healthy and happy and being my dope queen self. Thank you, next.
Alot of people defending Adrienne would be the same ones calling Jessie's ex heartless if she refused to help him pursue his dreams. It was a major decision but marriage is about sacrifice at times.
Yep
Say this again for the people in the back, please.
but that's exactly what A is saying, that marriage come with sacrifices, i didn't hear her say the Ex doesn't deserve being paid, she simply said marriage deserves sacrifices, and we can't blame the other person if doesn't work out, because we don't know if the sacrifice will pan out or not.
@@Q_live Adrienne came across as flippant and very dismissive of Aryn's feelings. We all know that marriage is a risk and it may or may not work. That point doesn't need to be reiterated. But to make it seem like if you sacrifice and support your spouse and they then up and leave you, and you should just 'get over it' and accept your choices, is rude, insensitive, and foolish. Marriage is all about sacrifice. I'm not saying Jesse is a bad guy. I'm just saying he needs to take care of his family regardless.
@@tmhanker100 💯
If she was working for 14 years, putting food on the table, taking care of the kids while her husband is trying to break into the entertainment industry (which he did) but the relationship didn’t workout afterwards, give her EVERYTHING!!
@Charles Cason....I'm sure she is hurt that her 14 year relationship/marriage didn't work out. You talk about her being average Jessie is not a great looking guy! Additionally, throwing in the "chunky" is just so rude...There are stunning, skinny women getting left by their men as I write this.
Charles Cason How did u get here? Who let u get out of your cage? Gtfoh
Adrienne all in her feelings lol
Hoes be mad
Adrienne disgust me.
Her mama RAISED A STRAIGHT HOE no cap
It’s all fun and games until it’s her.
@@kitt7531 lmao
Righttttt
Let's also acknowledge the fact that these are sacrifices that women are expected to make.
Let's not erase her very significant contribution.
As a woman you have to 'support your man's,all that 'behind every successful man' thing.I fully agree with Loni
This was posted 4hours ago and there's still no part 2🤦🏾♀️
Right...
I'm still waiting for part 2
I think that Jesse got BIG HEADED and a HUGE EGO from Fame, Money, and everyone telling him how GORGEOUS he is!!! 🗣🗣🗣
It didn’t help that people were callin his WIFE ugly and that he could get a Beautiful Instagram Model!!!!
I was always suspicious of their marriage based on her looks I'm not surprised he used her.
I can’t stand Adrienne and her facial expressions!
I think your either a strong man or your not regardless of fame or wealth or what people say about getting him a prettier wife, cos all I'm seeing is gorgeous woman right there. Look at Denzil, now think about his wealth, his fame and his looks but he's with the same strong woman who'd also the mother to his children.
Def. He is wring for what he did.. if he fell out of love fine. But take care of who took care of u and yours. She also needs a fucking makeover. Best revenge is success
Honestly the wife is not even ugly. People were just expecting his wife to look like all the other celebrities wives. If she wore makeup and weave and had surgery then no one would complain
I love Adrienne, but I think she's missing the point of spousal support. His career was a joint investment, why should he be the only one getting dividends? He left her, it's not her job to make his life easier. Don't hold on to bitterness, but at this point it's all business and I'd take whatever I could get.
I thought she was speaking about the ex blaming him for her sacrifices. I didn't think she was against spousal support. Perhaps more was said beyond that clip.
Beautifully said. Furthermore, she gave 100% its not fair that she leaves with nothing but heartache and pain.
Loni say it!!!! She held him down while he was trying to come up and once he did... he left her and the kids
Yessssssssss
“Don’t lose who you were before you got married.” That is GOLD Tam.
Adrienne is in a glass house, she better chill before she finds herself in the same situation. This was a union and she dedicated her life to support his dreams and she should be compensated for that
Hugs THIS
Adrienne "pick-me" "NOT ALL MEN" "I was a side chick" Haughton is so annoying
Shawndrea Magee 😂😂
I'm done 😂😂
Lol she is a "pick me" 😂😂
I disagree with Adrienne's point of view but I do not understand this "pick me" mess. If she agrees with the man's side then you call her a "pick me"??? She has the right to her opinion as we do. The main ones that use this "pick me" phrase are the ones that be hoping and praying that they get picked one day. It is just another dumb way to label women when we have enough labels already.
Jessi M. Oh, really? Thanks for sharing ☺️
Adrienne should stop treating her love life as a business proposal.... What you prepare for and focus on you will attract.
I always say people should not have a firm opinion of a subject or matter without expierencing it.
I'm going to quote you in that last sentence 🙌🏾
"For better or for worse" She trusted her wedding vows they made before God so to me it's no different than a couple who decides Not to get a pre-nup. He did her dirty. Period.
Adrienne is the reason I am going to probably end up not watching The Real anymore. Loni needs her own show! I love Loni!!!
same!!!!!!!
She been married for 3 days and now she knows it all. She kills me. I want them to revisit this conversation after Adrienne has been married for 10 years with kids. And Jeannie would have felt differently if this happened before her divorce. Loni speaks he truth period
I spent 15 years of my life putting man in front of my own happiness to make sure they became successful. What it that got me bankrupt and broken hearted. I will take the blame for not putting myself first. But, I will not take blame for being kind hearted, loving, understanding, and a bomb ass girlfriend to my exes. They shouldn't had token money from me if love wasn't the goal at the end. She deserves money for the emotional sacrifice she put in.
What about the decisions he was a part of making Adrienne? Doesn't he also have to take responsibility for those too? He isn't and wasn't blind to the sacrifices that she was making whilst supporting him. He was a part of those decisions too. And he now has to take responsibility for those decisions by giving her, her fair share!
And in marriage you shouldn't be making decisions based on how it will benefit you when the marriage fails. You should be making the best decisions for your family!
jennifer gwishiri shes saying that they were both apart of the decisions and cant just blame the other person.
I love what you said 💯
Speak loni , speak Girl 👍 you said it beautifully.
Adrienne tread carefully with what you are saying........ she gave up her career and her life for this man, this exactly what happened to my mother, the difference is my mother had family in Europe, they flew us the hell out of Nigeria after my father left us in penury and we starving, until this happen to you Adrienne, you really have no right to be speaking on this topic, I cannot support a man or woman who just up and leave his or her family like they don’t matter squat.
You can't give up your life for a man and then expect that the man will support you, even long after the relationship is done. That man didn't owe your mother anything. She made her own decisions. That's why, regardless of whether you are married or not, you have to be financial independent.
Nikki Lyn well until you are in that situation, I don’t think you will understand, when your man, starts having affairs, having other kids outside his marriage, doesn’t come home two weeks at a time, missing your kids birthday, having fight with your wife, your mother abusing your wife in front of your kids and you think is alright, Shame on all the women who sided with this guy, am speaking as a man who’s mother when through this, this lady has very right to be mad, and he just seem selfish as hell. I can never support anyone who that to his or her family.
@@myrahart3097 you never know someone situation or what's happening in someone's home. Clearly the husband/man should have compassion & gratitude
Anna Doe yes shame on you and furthermore my mum is in her sixty and all of her kids are in their 30s, I speak from what I saw mother go through with my father, and with all the support she gave him throughout their marriage, my mother had to raise three kids into adulthood with two of them with disabilities, am sorry Adrienne was insensitive and an absolute moron in this clip, speaking like she know, and by the way my mother taught me about sacrifice thank you very much, and am saying it again until you all are in this situation, you all need to have several seats. Hopefully none of you will be in this situation, because it will be a very sad day for you. The man was wrong plain and simple. And as for Adrienne she will so learn a more about empathy and sympathy, she was basically blaming and shaming the woman, am not here for haters like Adrienne making stupid comments like, hopefully Adrienne doesn’t find herself going through this😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
Lenny is probably watching this while eating some "carrots" 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Omg 😂😩
JackGeezy I don’t get it?
DeeVaBae CHRONICLES her ex fiancé
runchranda xo her ex fiancée
Adrienne I need you to be silent. Your immaturity is showing.
❗
I instantly dislike Adrienne after this segment.
Adrienne speaking as “the other woman” that broke up a nearly 20 year marriage! If Israel do her the way he did his 1st wife Adrienne gonna be Jjjjjjjjust as Mad! #girlbye
I don’t think they read the whole article because their commentary sounds WAYYYYY OFFFF. The only one who is right and is speaking facts is Loni
I lowkey think adrienne just wings the show and doesn't prepare for her job. She be up there sounding uninformed
@@shivaniseemungal6111 lol facts
Yes Loni! 💖 and I’m so proud of you Tamera, you’re such an inspiration!
I really love Loni recently.
Everything she says is on point.
Adrienne 🤫🤫🤫🤫
😂😂😂
If one thing waiting to exhale taught us is never build a man up because when he gets to the top he will dump u for someone else. All of a sudden ur not good enough.
Antonia williams why is that a pattern...
I Because when you help propel your spouse or partner into a higher social status which affords them a certain amount access and visibility, that leads to more temptations (New levels New Devils). It takes a strong man with mountains of integrity to grasp all that money, power, popularity, and influence yet still humble himself and come home to his “normal” wife and family and feel fulfilled. It’s insecurity and fear of missing out. Hopefully Jessie made the right decision and didn’t ruin a great beautiful thing chasing silicon in Calabasas.
You can tell Tam and Adrienne feel “above” this issue and it’s sad. As much as Tam has established for herself outside of Adam, she would be a complete reck if their marriage ended (& rightfully so). And Adrienne must have forgot the things she used to say about Lenny and how she changed herself for him. Cause she sounds mad hypercritical now that she married. Smh, I get so tired of them sometimes bc they both always sound so patronizing towards other women and their situations.
I completely agree with what Adrienne said about taking responsibility for your choices! We cannot lose our individuality as a person within the relationship, its hard not to because it is easy to get caught up in the love but you always have to think who am I and where would I be if this doesnt work out.
Is 2017-2019 the years of divorce ?!?! All these marriages I'm hearing falling apart ! I'm pray 😭😭😭
Myronn Coleman I know but think of it this way, happy people don’t get divorced. Divorce is a good thing because good marriages don’t end.
Adrienne speaking about it not lasting, akkkkkward
@@Chasmaria Israel did that to his marriage, not her.
Anyone who would pursue a man they know is married and has kids has something wrong with you
Tianna Miller According to Chris Brown, she knew Israel was married! I mean Hollywood is small af and people talk so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true! You noticed they haven’t spoken on Chris in a min! 🤷🏾♀️😂
@@laurencameron3150 yeah they were friends before so of course she knew he was married lol
Who else has been looking for part two
WHERE IS PART 2?????
Moral of the story is... keep something for yourself! Don't give up everything for your spouse, its all about give AND take in a relationship.
I agree with Loni all the way! It is very easy for someone to give advice or to chime in when it hasn't happened to them, or they have never been in this type of situation. Oh and I suppose it's her fault too that he cheated on her? .....so I've heard.
The newlyweds girl always thinks she knows it all 🙄🙄🙄
Anyone noticed that they didn't upload the second part. I think since social media jump on Adrienne she asked them not to post it