I wouldn't say good. He's not as evil as others thinks he is. He still threatened to end A-Train for basically nothing, made Queen Maeve sleep with Black Noir without her knowing and then threatened to end her when she lashed out. By all accounts he's still a massive prick, just not as evil as Black Noir made it seem
He did the worst things, but Honelander was not 100% innocent, for example the thing with the plane may have been an accident, but it was still a disaster for which he took advantage, and also the thing about Starlight raping her along with Black Noir and A-Train, in addition to surely more things than at least he covered up
@@georgy2556 There is a difference between demand & force. Sure, he didn't necessarily force her into it, but he did shamelessly drop his pants & yell, "suck it" in a rather demanding tone.
@@anthonymarquez4617 ok, argument accepted. He is shameless indeed and totally not a puritan, but I wouldn't color it necessary as a bad thing. As for the "demanding" part, I see it as a part of the job interview. If you can't obey a higher in command in such simple requests it is likely that you will disobey in a more crucial situations putting lives of others at a risk.
He carried a car with an entire family, married couple and two young children, into the clouds and dropped them to their deaths while taunting them. Tf you mean he’s “not at all a totally good person?” The best you can say is he’s not quite as evil as Noir’s actions made him seem.
@@tresdessabsolutely no lmao, he was always a bad person, he literally Sexually assaulted starlight shortly after they first met, killed a plane full of civilians and more, noir only did the worst atrocities, but he was always bad, even before noir started to affect him
@@km_1911 needed to take out the totally lol funny how one word changes everything, and that whole scene was done after he decided to throw a coup. Wouldn't have happened if noir didn't mess with his head by posing as him, and no I dont think Homelander is a good person you big goof
Right? If some people think Homelander isn't really a bad guy, just because of his horrible up-bringing... I have to question if these people are sane in the head themselves. We've all been wronged in some way, sometime in our lives, that doesn't make it ok to do horrible things to others in the form of blind retribution.
Everyone makes mistakes, even Earths most mighty protectors. We shouldn’t allow a few oopsiedasies to taint an otherwise infallible god-among-men’s legacy ❤️
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I mean they kinda did a bit. It's still assault. That's like saying if a woman is held at gunpoint and forced to do sexual things then it isn't rape, because they weren't physically forced
Dude, the average person has not that kind of emotional intelligence. People dont think that what they did Is assault , or else men would not behave certain ways when around women.@@The_Real_Soldier_Boy
He was more of a huge asshole than an outright evil bastard. The Boys pre-Hughie kept tabs on him and didn't find anything noteworthy or that would give green light to take him out, which is what made Black Noir snap. His mental instability came from seeing evidence of "him" doing horrible, evil shit despite having no memory of doing it. If Black Noir hadn't acted, HL wouldn't have decided to do a coup on Uncle Sam. He was VERY comfortable with his lifestyle in the Boys
N-no homelander 100% considers himself CAPABLE, his only concern is he doesn't remember doing these things. He never is disgusted by the implications he committed the acts just that he forgot.
Of course he's capable to do that. He's some demigod who can easily kill people all he want and not be stopped at all and the way he was treated for the majority of his life for sure doesn't make him very stable.
My memory could be fuzzy, but I'm pretty certain homelander didn't have x-ray vision in the comics. That's why the black noir betrayal surprised him so much
@@Blanke-i3h My dude hyperion has hyperversal feats in comics no way homelander comes close to that we can all agree that homelander is way weaker than hyperion and superman .
@@Blanke-i3h based on the fact that he isnt even the strongest supe in his verse, the boys verse is orders of magnitude worse than marvel and dc. also just overall feat, hyperion at worst is a galactic threat while homelander at best is only planetary.
Dude, Homelander tricked Maeve into sleeping with Noir while blind folded, making her think she was sleeping with Homelander, assaulted Starlight, And dropped a family of four in a car while in mid-air. Sure Noir framed Homelander which is the reason why Homelander became a psycho in the first place, but that doesn't excuse Homelander from doing ALL of that!
That's my point, he's really a victim of many circumstances too, perhaps if everyone around him didn't try and manipulate him one way or another blatantly, he might have more sense to preserve others, alas they created a monster and reap what they sew in the show and comic
Maybe it was lined with zinc or homelanders x-ray vision works differently in that he doesn't see through stuff but instead sees what an x-ray would see like skeletons
Russell Braun, an artist who worked on the comic, said that Honelander X-Ray vision was literally an X-Ray vision. If he had looked at Noir while using it, he would only have seen a skeleton.
“Good” is a strong word, just not that bad, there is also the thing about flying with terrorists even if it was an accident, forcing Starlight to have sex, and in general things that cover all the shit supers do
Still we can't say that he is good guy not evil as godolkin and black noir but he also did evil things. Like killing a family, harassing starlight, and tried to destroy America
Black Noir: It was me Homelander I committed all those crimes to mess with your head! Homelander: Even sleeping with Soldier boy every year? Black Noir: what? Homelander: Did you or did you not sleep woth Soldier Boy annually to crush his dreams on getting into the Seven Black Noir: Nah you were just down low. Homelander: I-It's not gay when I do it I'm the Homelander! Black Noir: Whatever you say P-Diddy Homelander: No one must know my secret- I mean You ruined my life Noir time to end this! Black Noir: You can't hide whats inside
I can't be alone in fantasising about being that one lifelong friend of Homelander who tries to keep him on the straight and narrow; the one peson he would never kill...
Black Noir was there to keep an eye on Homelander, but he did some of Homelander's crimes and later krilled him after he (Homelander) murdered the President.
though black noir did commit the more horrific atrocities in the story, homelander explains that because he believed he had already done awful things, he might as well continue doing them. he’s not a good guy at all. anyone who has read the comic knows this.
If the comics had gone with what this video proposes, it woulda been a really strong twist. But the comics didn't do this. Homelander was still a monster, just not the worst of them.
Homelander is a twisted guy but he's no hero and has alot of personal issues. This is exactly why he was able to get picked apart with words alone by the CEO before he went off to attempt a coup. Great bait lol.
Homelander isn’t a good guy. He might have been initially before Noir gaslit him into evil. But we don’t know when that happened. What we do know, though, is that it’s been many years.
Russell Braun, an artist who worked on the comic, said that Honelander X-Ray vision was literally an X-Ray vision. If he had looked at Noir while using it, he would only have seen a skeleton.
The fact Homelander was already a bad guy before the Black Noir clone twist made it feel little to hardly impactful or change anything since in the very next panel he's dead. It would have been a lot more narratively interesting if instead all of Homelander's actions were really just accidents, genuinely trying his best to be a superhero but still having an immature ego. It would have made his descent into madness maybe a little more tragic when he's blackmailed into believing he was doing horrible things and not remembering it. Becoming distrustful of those around him, the people that made him and himself. In a story that was filled to the brim with every superhero basically being a closeted sexpest or an addict - it would have been funny to discover Homelander was a well intentioned idiot.
Good is a stretch . Despite his traumas , he's still a vile human being . Granted, he doesn't murder Becca , eat babies, or do any of the atrocities that Noir did , but he still subjects Starlight to the casting couch , kills a family in cold blood - by dropping them 300ft in the air , and storms the Whitehouse - killing the president .
I really like to think about how if someone helpful got to Homelander before the Black Noir reveal in the comics he wouldn't have went off the deep end...and maybe not get murdered by hia own clone. That's one of the reason I enjoy the show over the comics. We get to see his downward spiral into more inhinged shit, I would have liked to see tue comics explore that before OG Homelander's death.
Homelander is one of my most favorite characters, but he's definitely not good necessarily. Lol its wild the difference between the comics and live action version.
Not exactly Homelander is evil now, originally he wanted to be good but he saw pictures of noir eating babies and shit and homelander thought if I did that and don't remember then I might aswell do anything I want and goes full evil
El en realidad era bueno, pero Black Noir lo manipulo mentalmente porque queria que Homelander sea malvado asi el tendria que matarlo, black noir fue creado para matar a homelander en caso de que se volviera malvado, pero como al principio homelander no hacia nada malo black noir se empezo a volver loco
I don't know the comics but in the show it's no wonder he is as awful as he is because everyone treats him like shit. A criticism I've heard is that he's a big fish in a small pond, usually in any other context the problem is the pond not the fish.
Homelander is still evil. He's just not as evil as Black Noir or show Homelander. He still muders Maeve and sexually assaults Starlight. Not to mention a coup against the government and murdering a family.
Did you just skip the comic books to the end? Just because he didn’t do 100% of all those things and he was played by Vought, doesn’t mean he is a “good guy”. Even if you take out the super crimes he actually committed, you wouldn’t even call him a “good guy” in everyday life stuff, if he was a next door person. He is still vain, rude, petty, arrogant, cruel. How can someone overlook all that?
It is a LOT more complicated than "He is a good guy in the comics". Given the chance, he had the potential to be Clark Kent or Steve Rogers. Black Noir was a terrible idea. It was great writing, but a terrible idea from the think tank. I dont know if seeing the better leash makes me a worse person, or just smarter than the characters.
He is definitely NOT a good guy. Hes just not as bad as you initially think. You could probably make the argument that he wouldnt have turned out how he did had Black Noir not done the things he did. A big part of Homelanders story is that he drives himself mad over not being able to remember doing the things he thought he did (but were actually done by Black Noir). But if you look at the thinks he actually did do.. Like r*ping Starlight, dropping a family from the sky, the plane incident, plus what he did to Maeve... Yep. Definitely not a good person at all.
If Homelander has x-ray vision in the comics.......so what is he actually just really polite and respectful of people's privacy so he NEVER ONCE peeked under Noir's mask? Is this explained at some point?
His x-ray vision is actual x-ray vision. As in he would only have saw Black Noir's skeleton and not his face. Also since Black Noir is stronger than Homelander, any attempt by Homelander to take the mask off when they were kids would probably have been ended by Black Noir breaking Homelander's hand and homelander not pushing the issue.
Homelander is not a good guy, at all. He raped Starlight, he killed a family just because, he killed Queen Maeve, not to mention the passengers on the flight who died because of his negligence. If you want to mention good people, you would have to talk about Queen Maeve, or Deep, they were the least fucked up of The Seven. I don't count Starlight because she is a decent person.
Be that as it may, we can all agree that voight fucked up homelander since he was born. They never treated him as a human being but just a thing, the way his psyche is is due to the trauma physical and mental that was done to him since he was a child. So it's not like he was born evil he never had a chance to be good, so the terrible things that he has done is actually a very human behavior because this is what somewhat Disturbed person would do if they were abused... The only difference is this mentally traumatized Disturbed person has godlike powers. Once upon a Time he was the ant and now he's the magnifying glass
Think god the show went into another direction with Noir... that plot twist is kinda boring honestly and lessens the impact of Homelander's death. Just wish they didn't went with the "Obvious" evil Butcher route... at least not the same way it is done im the comics
Homelander is villian, like his father and black noir. They are so evil. Homelander is probably most close to like antichrist’ish, a lot of pride, for him humans are toys, he has no real feelings towards anything just some imitation of it, he loves destruction, domination and he is filled with anger
Hes definitely not good but the comic version compared to the tv show is about a saint in comparison. Atleast until black noir drove him mad by thinking he did abunch of fucked up shit. The tv show version feels like the end of the comic version, atleast in the comics he tried to be a good hero and mostly killed people through his own incompetence. He was more of a sexual deviant in the comics, in the show that aspect of him was really toned down.
Nah Homelander did a lot of bad shit, but he should have been a dickhead celebrity at best. Instead, after seeing and hearing of horrible things that he apparently did, he assumed that he was just some crazy psychopath. So, he went along with it, believing that was who he was Of course, it was Black Noir doing the most heinous shit, and the ending of the comic pretty much confirms that Homelander was a psychopath by accident. If not for Black Noir's actions, he wouldn't be half as bad as he ended up
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I wouldn't say good. He's not as evil as others thinks he is. He still threatened to end A-Train for basically nothing, made Queen Maeve sleep with Black Noir without her knowing and then threatened to end her when she lashed out. By all accounts he's still a massive prick, just not as evil as Black Noir made it seem
He's also the one who assaulted Starfire on her first day, not Deep.
@@Lymbe06bruh
@@Lymbe06Black noir, Homelander, and A Train
@@Lymbe06Teen Titans… GO
He also did stuff to soldier boy in hopes to join the seven.
Black noir did not commit all the atrocities that homelanders blamed for just some of the most disturbing ones
Yeah, I mean we all remember he killing a family for no reason among lots of other mischiefs "the only man in the sky is me"
@@Manu_24y I may have missed the actual comic. Then again I read mostly the digest rather than the individual issues
@@eliandervalderen5849 ahh its all right... honstly its edgier than its interesting but I kinda like it
He did the worst things, but Honelander was not 100% innocent, for example the thing with the plane may have been an accident, but it was still a disaster for which he took advantage, and also the thing about Starlight raping her along with Black Noir and A-Train, in addition to surely more things than at least he covered up
I never said he was innocent. Just that black noir did not do everything that homelander was accused of only the most disturbing things.
Homelander is such a good guy that he showed his instant gratitude to Starlight joining the seven by demanding her to "suck it".
And he’s so kind and generous that he brought a couple friends to share
He didn't demand it, that was consentual.
@@georgy2556 There is a difference between demand & force. Sure, he didn't necessarily force her into it, but he did shamelessly drop his pants & yell, "suck it" in a rather demanding tone.
@@anthonymarquez4617 ok, argument accepted. He is shameless indeed and totally not a puritan, but I wouldn't color it necessary as a bad thing. As for the "demanding" part, I see it as a part of the job interview. If you can't obey a higher in command in such simple requests it is likely that you will disobey in a more crucial situations putting lives of others at a risk.
@@georgy2556i hope you’re trolling
He threw a family to their deaths
Hes not at all a totally good person, but all of that happened after noir did the thing.
Totally good?
He's absolutely vile @@tresdess
He carried a car with an entire family, married couple and two young children, into the clouds and dropped them to their deaths while taunting them. Tf you mean he’s “not at all a totally good person?” The best you can say is he’s not quite as evil as Noir’s actions made him seem.
@@tresdessabsolutely no lmao, he was always a bad person, he literally Sexually assaulted starlight shortly after they first met, killed a plane full of civilians and more, noir only did the worst atrocities, but he was always bad, even before noir started to affect him
@@km_1911 needed to take out the totally lol funny how one word changes everything, and that whole scene was done after he decided to throw a coup. Wouldn't have happened if noir didn't mess with his head by posing as him, and no I dont think Homelander is a good person you big goof
Black Noir did a lot of shit but Homelander is nowhere NEAR a good guy. read the comics if you tryna make a video about it smdh
i think hes makin a joke
Right? If some people think Homelander isn't really a bad guy, just because of his horrible up-bringing... I have to question if these people are sane in the head themselves. We've all been wronged in some way, sometime in our lives, that doesn't make it ok to do horrible things to others in the form of blind retribution.
Everyone makes mistakes, even Earths most mighty protectors. We shouldn’t allow a few oopsiedasies to taint an otherwise infallible god-among-men’s legacy ❤️
At the end of day who truly is a good guy,no one is that’s the truth..
@@Mannwhich
Cumswala fans!
What about this comic book version of Homelander, A-Train and Black noir assaulted Starlight on her very first day?
Ik. That was like one of the first things he did 💀
To be fair, they didn't force her... Physically...
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I mean they kinda did a bit. It's still assault. That's like saying if a woman is held at gunpoint and forced to do sexual things then it isn't rape, because they weren't physically forced
Dude, the average person has not that kind of emotional intelligence. People dont think that what they did Is assault , or else men would not behave certain ways when around women.@@The_Real_Soldier_Boy
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoonsomeone should check in on you. Weirdo. What point are you trying to make and don’t be a coward about it
The plane? Yeah that was homelander
In the comic the plane was simple them failing at the job.
They try to save the people, but fail. That's it.
@@miriamweller812 And you somehow missed the plane at herogasm that he shot down for no reason?
I also love spreading false information online
''homelander is Actually a Good Guy''
homelander to starlight : blow A-train
Also Homelander: Yummers.
Bro he’s still an evil bastard he just wasn’t as bad as his clone
He was more of a huge asshole than an outright evil bastard. The Boys pre-Hughie kept tabs on him and didn't find anything noteworthy or that would give green light to take him out, which is what made Black Noir snap. His mental instability came from seeing evidence of "him" doing horrible, evil shit despite having no memory of doing it.
If Black Noir hadn't acted, HL wouldn't have decided to do a coup on Uncle Sam. He was VERY comfortable with his lifestyle in the Boys
N-no homelander 100% considers himself CAPABLE, his only concern is he doesn't remember doing these things. He never is disgusted by the implications he committed the acts just that he forgot.
Of course he's capable to do that. He's some demigod who can easily kill people all he want and not be stopped at all and the way he was treated for the majority of his life for sure doesn't make him very stable.
I mean black noir even ate a baby. Imagine thinking you blacked out and did that but it was actually a clone of yourself.
A very rare instance of the show being better than the source material
Exactly
Show way better
He became evil for no reason or by mistake, he killed a lot of people and abused starlight just for recruitment
My memory could be fuzzy, but I'm pretty certain homelander didn't have x-ray vision in the comics. That's why the black noir betrayal surprised him so much
If we're being honest, Homelander is a weaker version of Hyperion.
He is 1 million times weaker than him
@@TheDemon-hv3co Based on what?
@@Blanke-i3h My dude hyperion has hyperversal feats in comics no way homelander comes close to that we can all agree that homelander is way weaker than hyperion and superman .
@@Blanke-i3h based on the fact that he isnt even the strongest supe in his verse, the boys verse is orders of magnitude worse than marvel and dc.
also just overall feat, hyperion at worst is a galactic threat while homelander at best is only planetary.
@@Blanke-i3hHyperion survived the collapse of his own universe onto himself. This already shows how much superior is he to Homelander
RIP homelander fly high he was a real one ❤😭🕊
he’s still awful but the worst atrocities done by homelander were actually done by black noir
Dude, Homelander tricked Maeve into sleeping with Noir while blind folded, making her think she was sleeping with Homelander, assaulted Starlight, And dropped a family of four in a car while in mid-air. Sure Noir framed Homelander which is the reason why Homelander became a psycho in the first place, but that doesn't excuse Homelander from doing ALL of that!
That's my point, he's really a victim of many circumstances too, perhaps if everyone around him didn't try and manipulate him one way or another blatantly, he might have more sense to preserve others, alas they created a monster and reap what they sew in the show and comic
Wouldn’t homelander be able to see through black noirs mask this whole time?
Maybe it was lined with zinc or homelanders x-ray vision works differently in that he doesn't see through stuff but instead sees what an x-ray would see like skeletons
Russell Braun, an artist who worked on the comic, said that Honelander X-Ray vision was literally an X-Ray vision. If he had looked at Noir while using it, he would only have seen a skeleton.
He didn’t find out about Black Noir until his end.
“Good” is a strong word, just not that bad, there is also the thing about flying with terrorists even if it was an accident, forcing Starlight to have sex, and in general things that cover all the shit supers do
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That picture of the mother's ribcage... 😨😰😱🤢🤮🤮🤮
She was literally gored and gutted...
"Ending his tragic life as a *soup..."*
& he’s a good dude that was driven crazy by his clone.
So we are just going to forget the "The only man in the sky is me" scene?
Still we can't say that he is good guy not evil as godolkin and black noir but he also did evil things.
Like killing a family, harassing starlight, and tried to destroy America
Black Noir: It was me Homelander I committed all those crimes to mess with your head!
Homelander: Even sleeping with Soldier boy every year?
Black Noir: what?
Homelander: Did you or did you not sleep woth Soldier Boy annually to crush his dreams on getting into the Seven
Black Noir: Nah you were just down low.
Homelander: I-It's not gay when I do it I'm the Homelander!
Black Noir: Whatever you say P-Diddy
Homelander: No one must know my secret- I mean You ruined my life Noir time to end this!
Black Noir: You can't hide whats inside
Tell me you haven’t read the comics without telling me you haven’t read the comics
Damn i didn't notice it at first but butcher looks like guts and they both got crazy mental strenght and backstory
I hear Homelander started out as good. But lost his mind later
"Homelander is actually a good guy"
Also Homelander to starlight "Suck it."
Not good, but possibly redeemable. Unlike the show's, this Homelander could have been an ally to Butcher against Vought
I can't be alone in fantasising about being that one lifelong friend of Homelander who tries to keep him on the straight and narrow; the one peson he would never kill...
He could have been, but Noir manipulated him into becoming a monster. He then became mask and there was no way back.
It was the smart choice make Black Noir his own character and Homelander guilty of everything he was accused of.
Black Noir was there to keep an eye on Homelander, but he did some of Homelander's crimes and later krilled him after he (Homelander) murdered the President.
though black noir did commit the more horrific atrocities in the story, homelander explains that because he believed he had already done awful things, he might as well continue doing them. he’s not a good guy at all. anyone who has read the comic knows this.
James: "Basically a spoiled child's personal Auschwitz"
If the comics had gone with what this video proposes, it woulda been a really strong twist. But the comics didn't do this. Homelander was still a monster, just not the worst of them.
Homelander is a twisted guy but he's no hero and has alot of personal issues. This is exactly why he was able to get picked apart with words alone by the CEO before he went off to attempt a coup. Great bait lol.
Whoever made this video has not read the graphic novels. Homelander is not a “good guy” 😂
Or sponsored by Vought.
Homelander isn’t a good guy.
He might have been initially before Noir gaslit him into evil. But we don’t know when that happened. What we do know, though, is that it’s been many years.
It crazy that in the show Homelander kills Black Noir, like that was phony as shit for real, he deserved more than that🤦🏼
If homelander has xray vision,why didn't he see through black noirs suit?
Because the clothes were made of zinc
Russell Braun, an artist who worked on the comic, said that Honelander X-Ray vision was literally an X-Ray vision. If he had looked at Noir while using it, he would only have seen a skeleton.
He's not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination, he's just a lesser of many other greater evils in the boys universe.
He was only a jerk/bully in the comics, till Black Noir blackmailed him, causing him to go full psycho.
The fact Homelander was already a bad guy before the Black Noir clone twist made it feel little to hardly impactful or change anything since in the very next panel he's dead.
It would have been a lot more narratively interesting if instead all of Homelander's actions were really just accidents, genuinely trying his best to be a superhero but still having an immature ego.
It would have made his descent into madness maybe a little more tragic when he's blackmailed into believing he was doing horrible things and not remembering it. Becoming distrustful of those around him, the people that made him and himself.
In a story that was filled to the brim with every superhero basically being a closeted sexpest or an addict - it would have been funny to discover Homelander was a well intentioned idiot.
He is still even. Sexual attack on Starlight. Attacked the white house. Weak fight with Black Noir.
Good is a stretch . Despite his traumas , he's still a vile human being . Granted, he doesn't murder Becca , eat babies, or do any of the atrocities that Noir did , but he still subjects Starlight to the casting couch , kills a family in cold blood - by dropping them 300ft in the air , and storms the Whitehouse - killing the president .
I really like to think about how if someone helpful got to Homelander before the Black Noir reveal in the comics he wouldn't have went off the deep end...and maybe not get murdered by hia own clone. That's one of the reason I enjoy the show over the comics. We get to see his downward spiral into more inhinged shit, I would have liked to see tue comics explore that before OG Homelander's death.
Homelander is one of my most favorite characters, but he's definitely not good necessarily. Lol its wild the difference between the comics and live action version.
Ending his life as a soup
Not much of one, no, but he wasn't evil. At least until Black Noir made him so.
Not exactly Homelander is evil now, originally he wanted to be good but he saw pictures of noir eating babies and shit and homelander thought if I did that and don't remember then I might aswell do anything I want and goes full evil
I told y'all I'm chill.
Dude, tf he is! Book one, he SAed Starlight. With A-Train and Noir
So they improved on the comics he had x-ray vision but couldn't see noir was a clone, but in the tv series, he could see his fd up face
I thought another serial killer was at the concert and cooper being there was coincidence
El en realidad era bueno, pero Black Noir lo manipulo mentalmente porque queria que Homelander sea malvado asi el tendria que matarlo, black noir fue creado para matar a homelander en caso de que se volviera malvado, pero como al principio homelander no hacia nada malo black noir se empezo a volver loco
Talk about spinning the narrative hahaha
Homelander Is The Good Guy!!!!!
I feel like homelander would have been somewhat fine if black noir didnt do what he did
The bar has been set at an all time low
I don't know the comics but in the show it's no wonder he is as awful as he is because everyone treats him like shit. A criticism I've heard is that he's a big fish in a small pond, usually in any other context the problem is the pond not the fish.
ironic...he's a villain in the series
He's a villain in the comic too.
@@korvo3427 I stand corrected too
I never really understood the Black Noir failsafe plan. What was Vought's plan if Black Noir went off the rails?
Homelander is still evil. He's just not as evil as Black Noir or show Homelander. He still muders Maeve and sexually assaults Starlight. Not to mention a coup against the government and murdering a family.
Did you just skip the comic books to the end? Just because he didn’t do 100% of all those things and he was played by Vought, doesn’t mean he is a “good guy”. Even if you take out the super crimes he actually committed, you wouldn’t even call him a “good guy” in everyday life stuff, if he was a next door person. He is still vain, rude, petty, arrogant, cruel. How can someone overlook all that?
It is a LOT more complicated than "He is a good guy in the comics". Given the chance, he had the potential to be Clark Kent or Steve Rogers. Black Noir was a terrible idea. It was great writing, but a terrible idea from the think tank. I dont know if seeing the better leash makes me a worse person, or just smarter than the characters.
He is definitely NOT a good guy. Hes just not as bad as you initially think. You could probably make the argument that he wouldnt have turned out how he did had Black Noir not done the things he did. A big part of Homelanders story is that he drives himself mad over not being able to remember doing the things he thought he did (but were actually done by Black Noir). But if you look at the thinks he actually did do.. Like r*ping Starlight, dropping a family from the sky, the plane incident, plus what he did to Maeve... Yep. Definitely not a good person at all.
Tragic villain, yes. Good guy? Hell no.
If Homelander has x-ray vision in the comics.......so what is he actually just really polite and respectful of people's privacy so he NEVER ONCE peeked under Noir's mask? Is this explained at some point?
His x-ray vision is actual x-ray vision. As in he would only have saw Black Noir's skeleton and not his face. Also since Black Noir is stronger than Homelander, any attempt by Homelander to take the mask off when they were kids would probably have been ended by Black Noir breaking Homelander's hand and homelander not pushing the issue.
Wrong! Homelander is evil. He commits atrocities but most of the atrocities that he's getting blamed for are committed by Black Noir.
This is crazy I wonder why they changed so much of it
Yeah I would say they made the right decision changing the story from the comics it was a little goofy in the comics honestly
Homelander are a Man Child in comics.
Didn't homelander himself abused starlight in the comics?
Homelander is not a good guy, at all. He raped Starlight, he killed a family just because, he killed Queen Maeve, not to mention the passengers on the flight who died because of his negligence.
If you want to mention good people, you would have to talk about Queen Maeve, or Deep, they were the least fucked up of The Seven. I don't count Starlight because she is a decent person.
"a good guy"? I would say "badly written" I hope he continues well in the show
Be that as it may, we can all agree that voight fucked up homelander since he was born. They never treated him as a human being but just a thing, the way his psyche is is due to the trauma physical and mental that was done to him since he was a child. So it's not like he was born evil he never had a chance to be good, so the terrible things that he has done is actually a very human behavior because this is what somewhat Disturbed person would do if they were abused... The only difference is this mentally traumatized Disturbed person has godlike powers. Once upon a Time he was the ant and now he's the magnifying glass
Damn homelander had bad aim😂
Hoesntly whats sad about Homelander actually wanted to be a Good guy but Black Noir made sure to corrupt him
Homelander is NOT a good guy. He’s done terrible things, including killing many innocent people. To say otherwise is nothing less than ignorant.
Being a victim does NOT make you good.
Nothing in this clip described anything about homelander being a good guy
Didn’t he force soldierboy to do things with him to be part of the group only he had no intention of adding soldierboy to the group
homelander was just bad bully with mental issues and complexes...
What atrocities besides Butcher’s wife Blacknoir commited ?
Can someone please list Black Noirs crimes? I wanna see if they are as bad as people say ( I don't read the comics)
Think god the show went into another direction with Noir... that plot twist is kinda boring honestly and lessens the impact of Homelander's death. Just wish they didn't went with the "Obvious" evil Butcher route... at least not the same way it is done im the comics
Homelander is villian, like his father and black noir. They are so evil.
Homelander is probably most close to like antichrist’ish, a lot of pride, for him humans are toys, he has no real feelings towards anything just some imitation of it, he loves destruction, domination and he is filled with anger
For fuck sake, why there weren't any spoiler warnings, for fuck sake
Still doesn’t excuse all the atrocities he’s committed. Dudes not a good guy at all
Homelander is evil in the comics. He killed people, families and even sups.
Uh, no he still fcking insane.
Hes definitely not good but the comic version compared to the tv show is about a saint in comparison. Atleast until black noir drove him mad by thinking he did abunch of fucked up shit. The tv show version feels like the end of the comic version, atleast in the comics he tried to be a good hero and mostly killed people through his own incompetence. He was more of a sexual deviant in the comics, in the show that aspect of him was really toned down.
Nah Homelander did a lot of bad shit, but he should have been a dickhead celebrity at best. Instead, after seeing and hearing of horrible things that he apparently did, he assumed that he was just some crazy psychopath. So, he went along with it, believing that was who he was
Of course, it was Black Noir doing the most heinous shit, and the ending of the comic pretty much confirms that Homelander was a psychopath by accident. If not for Black Noir's actions, he wouldn't be half as bad as he ended up
Wait in the comic BN kills Homelander? Lol complete turnaround