Hell is eternity in suffering separated from God. Even if someone would be in constant suffering for a whole 80 years life, it would still not compare to the atrocity of Hell. You can’t say that Hell can be experienced on earth, it simply cannot. Get right with God, He loves us and doesn’t want us to perish.
I’m absolutely sure we can feel that way, and feeling that way all the time can be absolutely horrible. it’s just contextually hell is a place where the amount of suffering you go through is only limited by the imagination of evil. On earth things can be absolutely terrible every single day, but the possibility of goodness is still there and can still occur. In hell nothing good can ever happen to you ever again, and at that point it’s just an objective reality that you’ll never know goodness again. I just don’t think these guys have thought it out that far.
The sad thing is they look at hell as if it's a place that has been mocked on tv with the cute devil that cast spells or pitchfork with a long tail. They are rationaling with a thing that is ancient at what it's doing. Reprobate! Lord, send a strong wind to have them to turn because i would love for these young men to be able to fulfill purpose within their lives. However, you know the ends from the beginning and know the outcomes. Lord, your will be done!😔
@@tiffanyjeanna No worries just let them find out when it’s to late …I’m even telling atheists this.. curse God however you want, but when it’s to late it’s not God concern nor mine💯🤷🏾♀️
Deceived 🙏🏽 the enemy just kills steals and destroys.. he's NOTHING but lies. Christ is NOTHING BUT LOVE AND TRUTH, WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING ...Omgoodness 😢 pray God gives Him a moment of clarity, opens His understanding 🙌🏽
I feel both Montell and Daniel are dealing with nihilism. I been there at one time in my life and I’m telling you right now, it a very self-destructive thought to have because it leads to confusion and separation from the Most High who gives you purpose and revelation about life that out of this world. I recommend them reading the book of Ecclesiastes because the emotions they feel now is so similar to what Solomon was dealing with when he wrote Ecclesiastes. Solomon was conflicting with questions about life from two distinct perspectives about life without God and Life with God. Despite Solomon having immense fame and wealth he still battle with questions and felt empty leading him to thinking that life was meaningless. I pray both brothers could see life through the lenses of God instead from the world and recieve deep revelations that life with God has meaning and purpose 🙏🏾✝️❤️
i wanna thank you for speaking up about this!!! I saw their video and i felt so heartbroken for these young men. They are straight up REFUSING the gospel and battling so much spiritual warfare. These days are so intense and their discussions sent shivers down my spine!!! i pray for YOUR protection and THEIR souls! Father God please shake them up and reveal your truth so undiniably in their lives! Protect this man and everyone involved in this channel. Thank you Jesus for your blood on the cross and for your Holy Spirit. Amen.
They are not refusing anything they were put in that position on purpose and that’s the entire reason why they even started and why they got famous. This is not some spontaneous change of mind. Most of these big names in this space are all full of it and put there on purpose. That’s why I don’t listen to this genre of music. I’m sure some of these music artists are actually legit, but it has been tainted by these type of people, and I refuse to listen to their words. None of these guys got this big on accident.
The saddest part about Daniel Ceasar and Montell Fish’s conclusion about God is that they miss the fact that God would have taught Adam and Eve good and evil. Their view of God is that his limits aren’t for their good and that His limits don’t come from a place of love. True love has limits.
It’s somethings a lot of people miss about the nature of God. He absolutely would’ve taught us himself at his own pace In a way that didn’t lead to destruction and degeneracy
Amen!!! 🙌🏽👑✨Please!!! This is so painful!! He look so sad, like not himself .... this spiritual warfare is FORREAL.. let's pray!!and Bombard his page with Love!!! Encourage Him, to come back 😢.
Sad to see someone lose their faith in real time. I think for ppl like montell they rush to become Christian influencers before they are even firm in their faith, that’s not a great foundation
I truly believe that he used the Christian community because he saw how vulnerable we are. We want our favorite artists to be Christian so bad that we jump on anyone who resembles them.
@@iblameabelA lot of people give up on God when they don’t “feel” better when they expect God to help them in the way they want. Then when things don’t play out like they hoped they give up on God.
I think he’s been sharing his journey in life. He doesn’t know what’s going to happen next. The best thing we can do is pray for him, clearly he’s being tempted to have the whole world like Jesus was. We don’t know how hard it is until we are put in a situation to have to choose. Most people wont ever be tempted on this level so they judge
Hebrews 6:4-6 is a scary reality for those who know the truth, yet willingly turned away from it. All we can do is pray for the ones who are the deceived by the desires of their flesh 💯
Omgoodness so scary!! Let pray and bombard His page with Love, let's remind Him of Gods love!! This is so deep .this is the end days..Jesus around the corner..
They hit it right on the nail, too much wisdom creates a fool, the rabbit holes are endless when you put too much thought into anything. Knowledge is power but when you have too much time on your hands you can spiral into the black holes of the mind & cosmos. Satan uses this against us so we get stuck questioning everything, when the Word of God is the only true truth in life. We’re curious creatures but too much self curiosity leads to delusions and insanity. Sometimes we just make things more complicated than God intended things to be for us. When I used to smoke I’d feel so “eye opened” but it honestly just leads to more confusion and doubt, we forget that when we feel like we know everything we actually know nothing 🤯 life is such a paradox but it’s beautiful that it reflects the God of the universe in that way, he’s the alpha & the omega , the beginning and the end and everything after that 🙏🏼
So so well said and I have also gone partway down these dark nihilistic roads where you trust nothing but your own mind! It’s not worth it and doesn’t lead to genuine truth, wisdom, or flourishing but just despair, pride, and confusion.
No. It is THEE conclusion you will come to. The Bible itself is an on-going tale about how structure is constantly built, then ends up having to to be destroyed because it turns out to be a failure. On-going “floods,” “plagues,” “replenishments,” “rebuilding,” “towers falling.” It is never ending. The mind of the being we live in is ultimately indecisive, at war with its own self, and comes to regret whatever it creates.
man you are preaching in this video ruslan. i could feel you getting heartbroken and emotional over how montell talked about the prophetic words he was receiving. i thank you for praying for him and being kind about it all. this is not the end for montell in Jesus name
The time poor Mr Fish spent on tour with Ecclesia was the beginning of the end…For now. I pray these young men have a King Solomon end-of-Ecclesiastics moment where they realize fearing and obeying the Lord is the end all, be all of life. 🙏 It’s never too late as long as they are still alive.
“The day i decided i was okay with going to hell”😢😢😢😢 we need to pray for them , that sounds like two brothers who have sold they’re souls and are regretting it , maybe even a cry for help 😢😢😢, it’s a good thing they posted this conversation publicly , May God intervene and show them the real path 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I don’t think that they think it’s “fire” or “cool”, I think they wanted to share their thoughts and show to people the reality of a conversation like this, (pessimistic yet real), showing that those kinds of thoughts can be part of the journey of a Christian, and also that it should not be shameful to doubt (because doubt can make someone understand something in a deeper level and therefore have positive outcomes in some cases).
I’m praying for him. I fell for the devils lie before and I know that you don’t have to be categorically stupid; you just have to be desperate and scared. But there is no sin greater than the salvation of Christ.
Daniel makes it sound like he doesn’t have a choice in going to hell or the path of destruction. Very odd, & will be praying for both of those guys. Montell’s music has been and even still is very influential in my walk with Christ. I had “Repentance” from his last Christian album on almost everyday when he dropped it.
You’re spot on with the speculation that Daniel Caesar was raised in a cult. He grew up Seventh-Day Adventist and the “you can’t do music and love God” sentiment is very strong and widespread. He went to a pretty strict high school with my friends so I see the influence of the denomination in his current thinking
one could 100% percent "do music " as a seventh day Adventist. I'm sorry but this is misleading...There are plenty of Adventist artists that make all sorts of beautifully instrumented Christian music...yes there are doctrines that fully differ from other denominations but using him being raised in a Seventh Day Adventist household as means to validate his misconception of the Lord in regards to serving him musically is a STRETCH ❤
The hopelessness on display is heartbreaking. “If I want this thing that YOU say leads to my damnation & I can’t stop wanting it, then I’ll I’ll do that and more bc my future is set.” Yikes. Some real “without God & without hope in the world” type vibes.
I think this a good thing, they are coming to the end of themselves, just gotta pray that God holds off the enemy long enough for them to choose Christ. The opportunity is there!!
I pray for Montell Fish. I would say, you never know what a person is going through that makes that person make the decision he/she is making. Mercy triumphs over judgment. I do agree with this video. It’s just sadness my heart that instead of showing tender love and understanding towards a person. We have to aggressively put the magnifying glass over someone’s life. But the truth is the truth. But truth in love. Correction and Conviction is essential in the Christian walk. But tender love and understanding is as well. God bless. Love u Montell! I love your creative mind that the Lord blessed you with.
I presume that this might have been the same thing that Joseph Solomon went (or is still going?) through. He was a Christian singer, with a beautiful voice and made inspiring videos on yt. A short time after 2020, his content changed significantly and announced that hes no longer a Christian. Idk exactly what happened to him, but I think its something that these guys are experiencing.
Good to hear a Christian artist speak out on this... I'm very grateful for montell's Godly music...but he's fallen off so rapidly and i hadn't seen any fellow artist reach out to him publicly. The switch up reminds me of Cain cuplo formerly Ecclesia. Pray Montell has a supernatural encounter fr.
John Gives also needs Jesus again like, what the heck happened? Listened to his new album “Reintroducing…” and I was just heartbroken. It was clear that he was doing what he could to break away from Christ in his art. Gotta pray for that guy as well.
love that you did a video about this. I like both of these guys, but their conversation seemed raw but definitely took a dark turn. needed some pushback. words are powerful fam.
"weirdo stuff" bruh what? nah man he aint doing weirdo stuff. "sounds like he was raised in a cult" from what i know, he did not grow up in a cult. Daniel's statements of "I'm ok with going to hell" and "either this or washing dishes" speaks more about his convictions and doubts. Ruslan bro, out of everybody, I thought you would understand my geee. Haven't you ever experienced these realities? I feel like this is the driving force behind all true creatives. It's that back and forth between chaos and order.....light and darkness. But keep doin ya thing bro. APTTMH let's keep these brothers lifted and lets not forget Chasing God, Joseph Solomon as well.
This binary you’re talking about them having is what happens when you grow up in a cult/backwards gospel, you’re right on target there. If no one ever taught you that you have more options than “walking” or “120mph” then this is the conclusion you come to. It’s likely that no one ever taught them that there is joy and fulfillment in following the person of Jesus and not just a set of rules. They probably think going to hell or heaven is about following rules rather than having a relationship with God.
I used to love Daniel Caesar, his voice is so beautiful to me. Now I don’t know how to feel 😢 I pray he finds his way back home and makes music for the Lord, he has that voice for it fr
it’s sad, people say the devil did it for us to be on the same level as God bc God hid the knowledge from us but now look at us, look at the world… we should’ve never known
I will never ever take the side of the devil, but my genuine question is why didn't God stop it from happening? Why are generations of people condemned for the mistake of two people? Why were they allowed to be tempted by the devil because they seemed to be doing just fine before he arrived?
@@reaganalafleur that was the test. To see if they would fall just as Satan had. God allowed it to happen to start another cycle. We will replace the 1/3 of heaven Satan has taken with him. God needs those noble enough to go through the test here in this present world to receive the crown in the next. Knowing we won’t defy him.
Ok so it was 2018 my first year at CBU in california and I was going through a tough time, I had some guys I knew that eventually went on tour with him for photography later on were going to this event, it was a concert for montell, this was at a church in orange county and I went I had never had such a filling of my spirit the concert was supposed to go till 8 pm and it went till 10pm with everybody was praying and worshiping for so long, I bought merch and I went to In n Out with montell and the guys I knew, and I listen to him so much over the next year to 2 years and he brought me out of this dark place where the enemy was attacking me, I'm 25 and I thought it was so inspiring to see somebody my age so on fire for Christ and my Heavenly father and then not following his current music and then seeing my spotify wrapped artist message and then see him smoking a cigarette, which I'm not getting on him for it I vape and i know it's a problem but I checked his Instagram and see this video I'm shook honestly everybody is human and the Lord saves people we don't I can only pray at this point but hope somebody can relate.
Tree of the knowledge of good and evil. What if it is the tree of running chainsaws (modernized and for example purposes) Knowledge of good and evil = dangerous but not bad if someone is properly prepared to handle it rightly. Running Chainsaw = dangerous but not bad if someone is properly prepared to handle it rightly. If it was in the Garden, just like the tree of life, it was EVENTUALLY meant to be eaten, just at the right time. Notice tree of life was able to be eaten but wasn't- then was unable to be eaten because Adam and Eve were no longer able to be properly prepared to eat it. Adam and Eve were like a young child improperly wielding a chainsaw they could have rightly wielded when they were older. But, because they didn't wait, they caused irreparable damage.
It is possible that the tree of knowledge of good and evil was not to be eaten because it was not ripe, in the same way Adam and Eve were not ready for it. We know that, today, some fruits are physically dangerous if eaten unripe, or improperly prepared/eaten (eating the wrong part). This tree of knowledge of good and evil is on a spiritual level. Imagine if they waited. Maybe God was going to be the one to give them the fruit, properly prepared, so it might be enjoyed and benefit rightly. Their impatience and lack of waiting on God removed a wonder of experience, if this were true. Dependence on God, walk away from it and suffering is not far off.
This is why I’m not religious anymore. People love to judge and tell people how to live their lives like they’re perfect people cause they know more bible verses than you. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It’s not about “knowing more Bible verses” it’s about pointing obviously self destructive behavior, from smoking cigarettes to celebrating narcissism to chasing fame. ALL objectively bad by any metric. From the health components to the psychological impact. Don’t be so blinded by “jUdGeMeNt bAd” as you can’t acknowledge basic truth. While ironically judging 😂😂😂
This is God's way of showing the true free will of one's hero's journey. This is all in the plan and is a direct reflection of sovereignty and authenticity. You choose to be you. Being sovereign isn't being in the place of full liberation from no constructs of pain. Being fully sovereign is being fully authentic and honest with where you are, who you are , and what are you going to do about it. I think what the world needs now more than ever, is a person who is aware of their Godhood that can show humanity how human God can be, or in power of what or who they believe in. It has always been us. And the self-realization of us. Sovereignty , acceptance, love. God bless. יְהוֹשֻׁעַ
Dang Ruslan, the binary spiel you went on was straight 🔥🔥🔥 Reminded me of Prov. 3:27. Daniel C.’s comment had so much deception in it, I feel for Montell being around that kind of influence 😞 But God is so merciful to all of us in that we all fall short of His glory, I pray they both come to realize just how good He truly is and has been in their lives, even after chasing fame.
I think people forget Hell is not just this bad place with all this bad stuff. Hell is the absence of Gods presence!!! Nothing can separate us from the love of God, but we can be separated from his presence. And the thought of being completely cut off from God is the worst thing I could imagine.
1 Corinthians 1:18-19 The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but for us who are being saved, it is the power of God. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise. The intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Montell fish is dedicated to the world and leading others astray. He has been very successful onto leading those fully onto Christ onto a path of confusion
This might be cliche but it's hard to miss that they both don't understand God's heart towards his creation. That is reflected in their conclusion about God not wanting Adam and Eve to have knowledge. That is false by every measure. It breaks my heart. Let's keep praying for the two of them. May the father redeem them back to himself.
This is actually a great parallel to why people walk away from God for ANY reason. “I believe there is a binary between celibacy and promiscuity so I’m going to go promiscuous.” Definitely false ideology. I appreciate the exhortation and we can pray! The rough part is kids who think these guys are all set now despite any possible future conversion where they can’t take this back.
5:25 it could be that at the time, Judas had no plans of betraying him. Interestingly enough, the fact that he heard someone will betray Jesus might have been a further motivator for him when the moment came. He probably thought "Jesus said one of us will betray him anyways, so I guess I'm not in control, I might as well do it for the money if it's meant to happen anyways"
He need to get saved . He not ok with going to hell trust me he don't even know what it is . I believe it's every evil thing rape , molestation, everything horrible u can imagine happening around u for the rest of your life beaten as slaves burning regret crying out to God . And he will never answer that's the just of it Lord knows the worst
I don’t listen to Ruslan anymore. Once he said that Steven Furtick and Mike Todd were preaching the gospel, I saw that Ruslan absolutely does not understand the gospel or Christianity. Those dudes are not sloppy. They are false teachers. What is Ruslan in this for? I don’t get it. Many will say, Lord, Lord…” But Jesus will say, “I never knew you.” I am still calling you out, Ruslan. Let me know when you want to talk.
Seems as though judgment day came early for these souls… those who are hardest to love need it the most. Try to understand where these artists are coming from and then they can try to understand where you are coming from
Learning a bit more about their background…how are they talking like this when they..I don’t know about Daniel but looking into Montell he out right made Christian music, was a Christian RUclipsr, influencing ppl then this?
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I find it wild how most HUGE stars say they had everything and it wasn’t enough.
Yet the ones chasing still think it will be.
Whew,that’s a bar 🔥
Facts
@@gabannaania1746 is it tho, it’s almost confirms how the bar is so low. After all these examples how people still don’t know. It’s kinda strange
Facts
I feel like it’s a mindset of “ok it wasn’t enough for them but it could be enough for me, and I’ll never know until I make it there”
I mean it’s easy to say your okay with going to hell when you’ve never experienced hell
Everyday can be hell to the right person even if there still on earth.
Hell is eternity in suffering separated from God. Even if someone would be in constant suffering for a whole 80 years life, it would still not compare to the atrocity of Hell. You can’t say that Hell can be experienced on earth, it simply cannot. Get right with God, He loves us and doesn’t want us to perish.
I’m absolutely sure we can feel that way, and feeling that way all the time can be absolutely horrible. it’s just contextually hell is a place where the amount of suffering you go through is only limited by the imagination of evil. On earth things can be absolutely terrible every single day, but the possibility of goodness is still there and can still occur. In hell nothing good can ever happen to you ever again, and at that point it’s just an objective reality that you’ll never know goodness again. I just don’t think these guys have thought it out that far.
The sad thing is they look at hell as if it's a place that has been mocked on tv with the cute devil that cast spells or pitchfork with a long tail. They are rationaling with a thing that is ancient at what it's doing. Reprobate! Lord, send a strong wind to have them to turn because i would love for these young men to be able to fulfill purpose within their lives. However, you know the ends from the beginning and know the outcomes. Lord, your will be done!😔
@@EliDavidYT you’re brainwashed, good luck with your life sir.
To say that you’re ok with going to hell and empathizing with the devil “giving knowledge” is so dark on many levels
It’s sad. They’re deceived… just like the angels who fell from the sky.
It’s possible to encounter Yahweh and still reject him.
This was so dark “professor “ I was shook .
It literally made me cry...and I am no punk😂...I just hate to see today's young men so deceived. It's like the experience of others is not enough.
@@tiffanyjeanna No worries just let them find out when it’s to late …I’m even telling atheists this.. curse God however you want, but when it’s to late it’s not God concern nor mine💯🤷🏾♀️
Deceived 🙏🏽 the enemy just kills steals and destroys.. he's NOTHING but lies. Christ is NOTHING BUT LOVE AND TRUTH, WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING ...Omgoodness 😢 pray God gives Him a moment of clarity, opens His understanding 🙌🏽
I feel both Montell and Daniel are dealing with nihilism. I been there at one time in my life and I’m telling you right now, it a very self-destructive thought to have because it leads to confusion and separation from the Most High who gives you purpose and revelation about life that out of this world. I recommend them reading the book of Ecclesiastes because the emotions they feel now is so similar to what Solomon was dealing with when he wrote Ecclesiastes. Solomon was conflicting with questions about life from two distinct perspectives about life without God and Life with God. Despite Solomon having immense fame and wealth he still battle with questions and felt empty leading him to thinking that life was meaningless.
I pray both brothers could see life through the lenses of God instead from the world and recieve deep revelations that life with God has meaning and purpose 🙏🏾✝️❤️
it’s funny you mention that because they did quote from it in the video as well
thank you for this! ill be reading that book
Thanks for this
i went through 4 intense months of nihilism recently.
i wanna thank you for speaking up about this!!! I saw their video and i felt so heartbroken for these young men. They are straight up REFUSING the gospel and battling so much spiritual warfare. These days are so intense and their discussions sent shivers down my spine!!! i pray for YOUR protection and THEIR souls! Father God please shake them up and reveal your truth so undiniably in their lives! Protect this man and everyone involved in this channel. Thank you Jesus for your blood on the cross and for your Holy Spirit. Amen.
They are not refusing anything they were put in that position on purpose and that’s the entire reason why they even started and why they got famous. This is not some spontaneous change of mind. Most of these big names in this space are all full of it and put there on purpose. That’s why I don’t listen to this genre of music. I’m sure some of these music artists are actually legit, but it has been tainted by these type of people, and I refuse to listen to their words. None of these guys got this big on accident.
Amen
Everyman works out their OWN salvation with FEAR AND TREMBLING. Don’t got time for deceivers
Amen! 🥺❤️🙏🏽
The saddest part about Daniel Ceasar and Montell Fish’s conclusion about God is that they miss the fact that God would have taught Adam and Eve good and evil. Their view of God is that his limits aren’t for their good and that His limits don’t come from a place of love. True love has limits.
It’s somethings a lot of people miss about the nature of God. He absolutely would’ve taught us himself at his own pace In a way that didn’t lead to destruction and degeneracy
THIS RIGHT HERE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE AND IT HIT MY HEART TOOOOO DEEP
when prayers go up, blessings come down!!! LET US GATHER IN PRAYER FOR THESE 2 YOUNG MEN!!!!
Amen!!! 🙌🏽👑✨Please!!! This is so painful!! He look so sad, like not himself .... this spiritual warfare is FORREAL.. let's pray!!and Bombard his page with Love!!! Encourage Him, to come back 😢.
Yes
Yessir 🔥
Sad to see someone lose their faith in real time. I think for ppl like montell they rush to become Christian influencers before they are even firm in their faith, that’s not a great foundation
I truly believe that he used the Christian community because he saw how vulnerable we are. We want our favorite artists to be Christian so bad that we jump on anyone who resembles them.
@@iblameabelA lot of people give up on God when they don’t “feel” better when they expect God to help them in the way they want. Then when things don’t play out like they hoped they give up on God.
@@Alan-rw3ez ain’t that the truth
I think he’s been sharing his journey in life. He doesn’t know what’s going to happen next. The best thing we can do is pray for him, clearly he’s being tempted to have the whole world like Jesus was. We don’t know how hard it is until we are put in a situation to have to choose. Most people wont ever be tempted on this level so they judge
@@jazzymommyx3 I agree
Hebrews 6:4-6 is a scary reality for those who know the truth, yet willingly turned away from it. All we can do is pray for the ones who are the deceived by the desires of their flesh 💯
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2 years and five months. That's impressive
Omgoodness so scary!! Let pray and bombard His page with Love, let's remind Him of Gods love!! This is so deep .this is the end days..Jesus around the corner..
They hit it right on the nail, too much wisdom creates a fool, the rabbit holes are endless when you put too much thought into anything. Knowledge is power but when you have too much time on your hands you can spiral into the black holes of the mind & cosmos. Satan uses this against us so we get stuck questioning everything, when the Word of God is the only true truth in life. We’re curious creatures but too much self curiosity leads to delusions and insanity. Sometimes we just make things more complicated than God intended things to be for us. When I used to smoke I’d feel so “eye opened” but it honestly just leads to more confusion and doubt, we forget that when we feel like we know everything we actually know nothing 🤯 life is such a paradox but it’s beautiful that it reflects the God of the universe in that way, he’s the alpha & the omega , the beginning and the end and everything after that 🙏🏼
Spot on !!🙏🏾
This was needed 🙏🏾
So so well said and I have also gone partway down these dark nihilistic roads where you trust nothing but your own mind! It’s not worth it and doesn’t lead to genuine truth, wisdom, or flourishing but just despair, pride, and confusion.
No. It is THEE conclusion you will come to. The Bible itself is an on-going tale about how structure is constantly built, then ends up having to to be destroyed because it turns out to be a failure. On-going “floods,” “plagues,” “replenishments,” “rebuilding,” “towers falling.” It is never ending. The mind of the being we live in is ultimately indecisive, at war with its own self, and comes to regret whatever it creates.
The problem is when you think the enemy is your friend.
This is so heartbreaking. Lord please bring them home
In order to drive home you need the car and the driver
man you are preaching in this video ruslan. i could feel you getting heartbroken and emotional over how montell talked about the prophetic words he was receiving. i thank you for praying for him and being kind about it all. this is not the end for montell in Jesus name
Amen in the name of Jesus. This is not Montell's end 🙏🏽
The time poor Mr Fish spent on tour with Ecclesia was the beginning of the end…For now. I pray these young men have a King Solomon end-of-Ecclesiastics moment where they realize fearing and obeying the Lord is the end all, be all of life. 🙏 It’s never too late as long as they are still alive.
Absolutely agree
“The day i decided i was okay with going to hell”😢😢😢😢 we need to pray for them , that sounds like two brothers who have sold they’re souls and are regretting it , maybe even a cry for help 😢😢😢, it’s a good thing they posted this conversation publicly , May God intervene and show them the real path 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I don’t think that they think it’s “fire” or “cool”, I think they wanted to share their thoughts and show to people the reality of a conversation like this, (pessimistic yet real), showing that those kinds of thoughts can be part of the journey of a Christian, and also that it should not be shameful to doubt (because doubt can make someone understand something in a deeper level and therefore have positive outcomes in some cases).
I agree
Agree, all I see is two young guys being honest about the way the feel. It didn't seem like they were preaching that they are right or anything.
exactly...since when hs it become so wrong to doubt?and be honest with how you feel
I’m praying for him. I fell for the devils lie before and I know that you don’t have to be categorically stupid; you just have to be desperate and scared.
But there is no sin greater than the salvation of Christ.
Gotta pray for these young men.
I've been in that mindset.
Glory to God I'm not anymore.
Galatians 6:7-9 come to mind.
And brothers... Luke 17:2-3
Amen, thank you. There is hope🙏🏽
Religion is for people afraid of going to hell
Spirituality is for people who’ve already been
Wow so deep
Very
That 120 miles per hour on the freeway is the perfect analogy. Nice job Ruslan!
Daniel makes it sound like he doesn’t have a choice in going to hell or the path of destruction. Very odd, & will be praying for both of those guys. Montell’s music has been and even still is very influential in my walk with Christ. I had “Repentance” from his last Christian album on almost everyday when he dropped it.
You’re spot on with the speculation that Daniel Caesar was raised in a cult. He grew up Seventh-Day Adventist and the “you can’t do music and love God” sentiment is very strong and widespread. He went to a pretty strict high school with my friends so I see the influence of the denomination in his current thinking
one could 100% percent "do music " as a seventh day Adventist. I'm sorry but this is misleading...There are plenty of Adventist artists that make all sorts of beautifully instrumented Christian music...yes there are doctrines that fully differ from other denominations but using him being raised in a Seventh Day Adventist household as means to validate his misconception of the Lord in regards to serving him musically is a STRETCH ❤
The Lord is faithful and just. Bless God for His unfailing love
The hopelessness on display is heartbreaking. “If I want this thing that YOU say leads to my damnation & I can’t stop wanting it, then I’ll I’ll do that and more bc my future is set.” Yikes. Some real “without God & without hope in the world” type vibes.
At this point its not being ignorant of the gospel but deliverately rejecting it. Sad.
I think this a good thing, they are coming to the end of themselves, just gotta pray that God holds off the enemy long enough for them to choose Christ. The opportunity is there!!
I pray for Montell Fish. I would say, you never know what a person is going through that makes that person make the decision he/she is making. Mercy triumphs over judgment. I do agree with this video. It’s just sadness my heart that instead of showing tender love and understanding towards a person. We have to aggressively put the magnifying glass over someone’s life. But the truth is the truth. But truth in love. Correction and Conviction is essential in the Christian walk. But tender love and understanding is as well. God bless. Love u Montell! I love your creative mind that the Lord blessed you with.
I can't wait to hear what Montell will say, I've been following him for few years now... Thanks
Your advice about not letting wealth or fame be the pursuit is insanely helpful to me. Thank you man, this helps a lot.
This is terribly sad for both of these young men. Nvr heard montell but i think daniels voice is like honey. I hope they both find and keep Jesus.
I presume that this might have been the same thing that Joseph Solomon went (or is still going?) through. He was a Christian singer, with a beautiful voice and made inspiring videos on yt. A short time after 2020, his content changed significantly and announced that hes no longer a Christian. Idk exactly what happened to him, but I think its something that these guys are experiencing.
Good to hear a Christian artist speak out on this... I'm very grateful for montell's Godly music...but he's fallen off so rapidly and i hadn't seen any fellow artist reach out to him publicly. The switch up reminds me of Cain cuplo formerly Ecclesia. Pray Montell has a supernatural encounter fr.
John Gives also needs Jesus again like, what the heck happened? Listened to his new album “Reintroducing…” and I was just heartbroken. It was clear that he was doing what he could to break away from Christ in his art. Gotta pray for that guy as well.
Yeah and Joe Solomon. They decided so fast...
Praying for them man. John used to be one of my favorite rappers. The most talented fr
The binary thing is: choosing your own fame over making God famous
love that you did a video about this. I like both of these guys, but their conversation seemed raw but definitely took a dark turn. needed some pushback.
words are powerful fam.
The whole world is praying for them. God's grace is amazing.
Stoked to be here Ruslan. Followed Dream Junkies for years.
Nah this is disturbing☹️😞, the world and everything it has to offer isn’t worth it
"weirdo stuff" bruh what? nah man he aint doing weirdo stuff.
"sounds like he was raised in a cult" from what i know, he did not grow up in a cult.
Daniel's statements of "I'm ok with going to hell" and "either this or washing dishes" speaks more about his convictions and doubts.
Ruslan bro, out of everybody, I thought you would understand my geee. Haven't you ever experienced these realities? I feel like this is the driving force behind all true creatives. It's that back and forth between chaos and order.....light and darkness. But keep doin ya thing bro. APTTMH
let's keep these brothers lifted and lets not forget Chasing God, Joseph Solomon as well.
for sure nailed it with isolation....i'm going through that right now....fighting
Thank you for this comment, this video doesn’t seem helpful.
This binary you’re talking about them having is what happens when you grow up in a cult/backwards gospel, you’re right on target there. If no one ever taught you that you have more options than “walking” or “120mph” then this is the conclusion you come to. It’s likely that no one ever taught them that there is joy and fulfillment in following the person of Jesus and not just a set of rules. They probably think going to hell or heaven is about following rules rather than having a relationship with God.
It’s sad that he made fame his god I pray that he turns himself around
Perhaps Montell Fish is being led astray by his own heart. He needs so much prayer. 🙏🏽
I used to bump Montell Fish Destroy Hell… BOY THAT SONG RILED ME UP!!! Lets go Montell lets Destroy Hell!
you should invite montell back on and have a convo with him again
I used to love Daniel Caesar, his voice is so beautiful to me. Now I don’t know how to feel 😢 I pray he finds his way back home and makes music for the Lord, he has that voice for it fr
That convo they were having seems to be teetering toward blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Teetering? It was definitely blasphemy
I’ve always tried to understand that statement in scripture “the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” whats your take take/has he revealed it to mean to you?
it’s sad, people say the devil did it for us to be on the same level as God bc God hid the knowledge from us but now look at us, look at the world… we should’ve never known
I will never ever take the side of the devil, but my genuine question is why didn't God stop it from happening? Why are generations of people condemned for the mistake of two people? Why were they allowed to be tempted by the devil because they seemed to be doing just fine before he arrived?
@@reaganalafleur that was the test. To see if they would fall just as Satan had. God allowed it to happen to start another cycle. We will replace the 1/3 of heaven Satan has taken with him. God needs those noble enough to go through the test here in this present world to receive the crown in the next. Knowing we won’t defy him.
You guys were preaching!!!!!!
Thank you for this episode!
I'll definitely be rewatching it!
Thank you❤️
In pursuit of one’s passion, the by product should be to expand the Lords kingdom. 👑
Scary stuff. Praying that God will reveal himself to both of them
It's sucks to see when an artist is torn but makes it seem they're not!
Ok so it was 2018 my first year at CBU in california and I was going through a tough time, I had some guys I knew that eventually went on tour with him for photography later on were going to this event, it was a concert for montell, this was at a church in orange county and I went I had never had such a filling of my spirit the concert was supposed to go till 8 pm and it went till 10pm with everybody was praying and worshiping for so long, I bought merch and I went to In n Out with montell and the guys I knew, and I listen to him so much over the next year to 2 years and he brought me out of this dark place where the enemy was attacking me, I'm 25 and I thought it was so inspiring to see somebody my age so on fire for Christ and my Heavenly father and then not following his current music and then seeing my spotify wrapped artist message and then see him smoking a cigarette, which I'm not getting on him for it I vape and i know it's a problem but I checked his Instagram and see this video I'm shook honestly everybody is human and the Lord saves people we don't I can only pray at this point but hope somebody can relate.
Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
What if it is the tree of running chainsaws (modernized and for example purposes)
Knowledge of good and evil = dangerous but not bad if someone is properly prepared to handle it rightly.
Running Chainsaw = dangerous but not bad if someone is properly prepared to handle it rightly.
If it was in the Garden, just like the tree of life, it was EVENTUALLY meant to be eaten, just at the right time. Notice tree of life was able to be eaten but wasn't- then was unable to be eaten because Adam and Eve were no longer able to be properly prepared to eat it.
Adam and Eve were like a young child improperly wielding a chainsaw they could have rightly wielded when they were older. But, because they didn't wait, they caused irreparable damage.
It is possible that the tree of knowledge of good and evil was not to be eaten because it was not ripe, in the same way Adam and Eve were not ready for it.
We know that, today, some fruits are physically dangerous if eaten unripe, or improperly prepared/eaten (eating the wrong part). This tree of knowledge of good and evil is on a spiritual level.
Imagine if they waited. Maybe God was going to be the one to give them the fruit, properly prepared, so it might be enjoyed and benefit rightly.
Their impatience and lack of waiting on God removed a wonder of experience, if this were true.
Dependence on God, walk away from it and suffering is not far off.
Yup! God wasn’t withholding knowledge from them. He wanted them to trust Him and to follow Him first as obedient before being given the “office”.
This is why I’m not religious anymore. People love to judge and tell people how to live their lives like they’re perfect people cause they know more bible verses than you. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It’s not about “knowing more Bible verses” it’s about pointing obviously self destructive behavior, from smoking cigarettes to celebrating narcissism to chasing fame. ALL objectively bad by any metric. From the health components to the psychological impact. Don’t be so blinded by “jUdGeMeNt bAd” as you can’t acknowledge basic truth. While ironically judging 😂😂😂
so its confirmed...mahn I will always love the old music of Montell.. but I might be looking at it differently now.
So much wisdom said in this!
Daniel Caesar has a dark song called Freudian, "isn't it nice, human sacrifice."
Not saying he's illuminati, he is just antiGod in a sense
at least the first half of freudian isn’t that bad 🥲
This video is so SPIRIT FILLED. This was special I felt goosebumps
This is God's way of showing the true free will of one's hero's journey.
This is all in the plan and is a direct reflection of sovereignty and authenticity.
You choose to be you. Being sovereign isn't being in the place of full liberation from no constructs of pain.
Being fully sovereign is being fully authentic and honest with where you are, who you are , and what are you going to do about it.
I think what the world needs now more than ever, is a person who is aware of their Godhood that can show humanity how human God can be, or in power of what or who they believe in.
It has always been us. And the self-realization of us. Sovereignty , acceptance, love. God bless. יְהוֹשֻׁעַ
One of your best videos I've seen. Great takes my guy
Praying for them that they seek truth from GOD and not knowledge from satan
THIS IS SO GOOD I HOPE THEY Watch this
Great takes on this, made me realize some things
Man. So sad Montell has walked away from the faith
Dang Ruslan, the binary spiel you went on was straight 🔥🔥🔥 Reminded me of Prov. 3:27.
Daniel C.’s comment had so much deception in it, I feel for Montell being around that kind of influence 😞 But God is so merciful to all of us in that we all fall short of His glory, I pray they both come to realize just how good He truly is and has been in their lives, even after chasing fame.
Thank you for interacting with this Ruslan.
I think people forget Hell is not just this bad place with all this bad stuff. Hell is the absence of Gods presence!!! Nothing can separate us from the love of God, but we can be separated from his presence. And the thought of being completely cut off from God is the worst thing I could imagine.
keep them in our prayers yall!
1 Corinthians 1:18-19
The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but for us who are being saved, it is the power of God. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise. The intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Ruslan everyone has there own path.
Pray pray pray for these two. The devil has taken a hold of heart and mind, and watching this made my hair stand up on my arms almost. 😭
Same
Bro, this man i lost and his causing damage. Fear for his future, pRay that he leave this catastrophy
Montell fish is dedicated to the world and leading others astray. He has been very successful onto leading those fully onto Christ onto a path of confusion
I am so grateful for this Video! God have mercy with us! I hope they‘ll watch this video🙌🏾🤍
This might be cliche but it's hard to miss that they both don't understand God's heart towards his creation. That is reflected in their conclusion about God not wanting Adam and Eve to have knowledge. That is false by every measure. It breaks my heart. Let's keep praying for the two of them. May the father redeem them back to himself.
A gentle but firm analysis💯💙
I started thinking about DANIEL CAESAR today RANDOMLY...now I'm seeing this.
Ruslan you hit the nail on the head with this one 😤
For sure
Luke 14:24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.
Dang bro I knew Montell Fish was going to deconstruct when I saw him on Jimmy Kimmel live. 😅😢
Wise Words That Will Be Wise To Everyone But, The One Who Needs It The Most...
This is 1 Timothy 4:1-3 right in our faces
It’s so sad to see where Montell fish is now. Probably the influence from Daniel Caesar but still. It’s just so sad to see
Thank you for your take in this video. A lot of people need to see this episode
@RuslanKD, did you reach out to Montell to try and have a conversation about the path he is embarking on before you made this?
“go with the flow of traffic” in air quotes was relatable lol
Preach about the real prophecy!!! The church doesn’t want to hear about warnings ⚠️
No one would say I’m ok with going to hell if you taste real hell for a fraction of a sec so stop that cap
Even non Christian were like WHAT THE HECK
i know its off topic but here in germany we always go 120 on a freeway...
This is actually a great parallel to why people walk away from God for ANY reason. “I believe there is a binary between celibacy and promiscuity so I’m going to go promiscuous.” Definitely false ideology. I appreciate the exhortation and we can pray! The rough part is kids who think these guys are all set now despite any possible future conversion where they can’t take this back.
LMAOO Christians are so funny they can never see deeper than surface level
goodness gracious. Lord please remove their spiritual blindess
5:25 it could be that at the time, Judas had no plans of betraying him.
Interestingly enough, the fact that he heard someone will betray Jesus might have been a further motivator for him when the moment came.
He probably thought "Jesus said one of us will betray him anyways, so I guess I'm not in control, I might as well do it for the money if it's meant to happen anyways"
My GOD pt 2 is 🎉🎉 still waiting for the lyrics
He need to get saved . He not ok with going to hell trust me he don't even know what it is . I believe it's every evil thing rape , molestation, everything horrible u can imagine happening around u for the rest of your life beaten as slaves burning regret crying out to God . And he will never answer that's the just of it Lord knows the worst
I don’t listen to Ruslan anymore. Once he said that Steven Furtick and Mike Todd were preaching the gospel, I saw that Ruslan absolutely does not understand the gospel or Christianity. Those dudes are not sloppy. They are false teachers.
What is Ruslan in this for? I don’t get it. Many will say, Lord, Lord…” But Jesus will say, “I never knew you.”
I am still calling you out, Ruslan. Let me know when you want to talk.
Idk who these guy is but he sounds depressed and lost
Exactly
Seems as though judgment day came early for these souls… those who are hardest to love need it the most. Try to understand where these artists are coming from and then they can try to understand where you are coming from
Learning a bit more about their background…how are they talking like this when they..I don’t know about Daniel but looking into Montell he out right made Christian music, was a Christian RUclipsr, influencing ppl then this?