Grammarly vs ProWritingAid APP BATTLE!🎤😆🏆
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- What is the best proofreading software to help you write better and catch more spelling and grammar errors? For the last couple of weeks, I’ve been using the top two apps on the market, Grammarly and ProWritingAid. In this video, I’m going to compare them and share my recommendation on which one you should buy, plus a few helpful tips.
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I use both Grammarly and ProWritingAid it is a perfect combination.
Hey Michael! This was a great video and very informative. I love how you broke everything down to the Nth degree. I’ve never tried pro writing aid before but now I’m more compelled considering I am going to pivot into the fiction writing genre. So thanks for the in-depth coverage and I will definitely order pro writing aid through your affiliate link. Kudos!
Awesome. Hope you enjoy it, man. Glad you liked the video.
Loving the 🎤APP BATTLE🎤 format! Very clever. I've had ProWritingAid for a year now and the "writing hacks" emails they send out have some good advice every now and then.
Thanks, Nikki! Good to know about their writing hacks format.
I appreciate your seemingly unbiased review. I am still undecided as to what software could better fit my needs (I'm a college student), so I have been watching a couple of reviews for Grammarly and ProWritingAid. Most of those video reviews were plain advertisements and tried to pass as a impartial, but you can always tell. That's why I find this video of yours so refreshing.
I have Grammarly premium and it absolutely sucks now. I have to proofread backward now for this overpriced POS because it stopped accurately working.
I recently began my graduate program, and I'm using the free version of Grammarly. I saw a review on ProWriting Aid and found a 40% off coupon, so I was almost convinced to purchase the lifetime license. So glad I stumbled upon your video! Even though ProWriting Aid is at a much better price point, I think I'm going to purchase the annual subscription to Grammarly. It's currently $75 USD. Thanks for the review!
How did you get the annual subscription for only $75.00
What's the coupon please? I'm in UK and it's £210 for the life time and that's 274 dollars
So far your reviews on the both are very neutral and honest! Love it!
This was exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you! Going with Pro Writing Aid. And who knows, maybe they'll update the app's design in the future.
you def deserved a sub here. I really like how you spoke well on each app it def made me decide to get Grammarly for my casual writing.
As always, your essays, tips and reviews are fantastic • as always, thanks Michael.
Thanks. Helped me decide. Im going with Pro Writing. Thanks for the clear comparison. Saved me time which is valuable.
+Smokey Moment Great!
Easily the best comparison I have found on the topic. Thanks!
Terrific video. I've been using the free version of Grammarly for some time. Before NaNoWriMo in November 2022, I took advantage of their 40% discount and purchased a year's subscription for $86 (2022). I was using Atticus to write a non-fiction book and found that as the book got larger, Grammarly just could not handle it. I switched back to writing a chapter at a time in Word, where with a smaller chapter-sized document, Grammarly behaved itself. Not an ideal situation, but something I've grown accustomed to. However, I am intrigued by ProWritingAid. With the Nano 40% discount, a lifetime subscription is $239 instead of $399 in 2022. So, NaNoWriMo affords terrific discounts whether you are a participant or a finisher with lots of programs. Thanks again for breaking down this lovely app battle for us.
Loving your content good sir. Very straightforward and easy to follow. Keep it up!
Thanks ALU! Exactly my experience as well.
I've just got a two year renewal of ProWritingAid for USD50 which is half price.
A one year renewal of Grammarly will be billed as USD139.95. (against ProWritingAid's USD50)
Just ordered the lifetime subscription of ProWritingAid for $105 even I never tried it. Used Grammarly the first time 10 hours ago for my SOP.
@@darkstar-dp5yr I hope you'll be pleased with it. It is quite advanced with a lot of things you can do.
This is a nice video. I know I've watched this a few times because of Grammarly's subscription fee is expensive. I've also downloaded a few of your books, keep up the good work!
You should wait a few weeks, they always send a 40 or 45% reduction coupon to free user.
Wow. Love your soothing voice!
So clear :)
Michael,
Guess I should have held my comments on the ProWritingAid vid one more day -
I've been playing around with PWA tools and I'm trying to figure out the best order. I'm curious which you use and in what order and why?
Currently I'm using:
Pacing (checking for my tendency to elaborate on details)
Sentences (checking my tendency to write long sentences and run-on sentences)
Sticky (I kinda hate this too - sometimes I see a way to improve it, often I don't)
Style - nice reminders to remove extraneous words.
Grammar - I need all the help I can get.
Significant changes to sentences and paragraphs tend to introduce small errors. This order - I hope - helps me fix them without covering the same ground over and over.
I wonder how many errors got missed - in other words, if you did the changes based on your categories - would you end up with the same document? I don't think it's worth the effort but I'm curious - I might try it a few of my chapters.
I’ve only been using PWA for a few months, but to be honest, you pose a really good question in which order I would use the categories in.
I use the categories from left to right. After that, it never occurred to me to go through it again since it’s going to my editor anyway. The less time I spend in this part of the process, the better, as you can easily eat up a lot of time in an editing app.
(Okay - I just read through my comment ... I'm doomed - I may never be able to write a novel with less than 150,000 words)
I do love how your videos and comments get me really thinking about process and focus. It's so easy to just fall into a pattern that might work but is perhaps not the best.
This topic gets huge really fast, but it's both really interesting, and I think critical. By topic, I mean Editing in general, not just the tools. I can easily see at least one video and maybe several on how to work with an editor when to send that first copy, who reads it first? My impression is that, as you become more experienced as a writer, this process simplifies quite a bit. I assume you're less likely to get hit with major rewrites, requiring multiple passes through the editing process. You can, in effect finish your book - send it in and deal with the minor rewrites and grammar and be reasonably sure you've got a finished product. If I'd done that - it would have been... painful.
First, a couple of questions:
So, what would you expect to pay if your book as between 150,000 and 200,000 words? And, when you pay your editor, what does that include?
For my first book, I looked at several sites that offer editing services.
One shows:
developmental editing: $3,430 (story structure, plot holes, character issues, pacing, etc)
copy editing: $3,482 (Grammar, sentence structure, word choices, punctuation)
proof reading: $1,487 (last pass, grammar, spelling)
total: $8,398
Another shows about $2,500/$3,000 but is much less clear on what you get. Frankly the Idea of spending any time on grammar & spelling, when you should be worried about fixing plot issues, or fixing sections that lack what I call flow (pacing, interest, energy) seems like a waste of time. I did significant rewrites that to five parts of my book 12,000 wrds 11,000 wrds 31,000 wrds 7,000 wrds and 16,000 wrds. I have no interest in paying someone to fix grammar/spelling issues in areas that I'm going to change significantly.
Every change adds the chance of errors. Structure and character development for new authors is a much harder nut to crack than spelling and grammar and yet, if you want that first novel to be a success, you'll most likely need help with both.
I can certainly see where you're coming from, and it's possible I'll be there in a few years. Right now, it's a choice of spending my time or spending my money to let someone else do it. And right now, I have more time than money. If I thought for a second that I could make more money using that time for something else, I probably would. I envision a time when the cost of me doing the job will cost me more than paying someone. Perhaps when I've got enough experience to write a book in 3 months. At this point, I'm still learning what works for me, and more importantly, what doesn't. For me, writing is still a slow process, although I can see significant improvements the more I do it - weird, every book on writing says - If you want to learn to write, you have to spend time writing - looks like they were right.
There are a lot of mistakes you can make, and I seem bound and determined to work my way through every one of them :)
Vincent, some very good stuff in your comment. Honestly, my answer could be an entire video series, but to answer your questions:
How much to pay for editing a 150k to 200k book-it looks like the estimates you got were on the very high side compared to what I’ve paid. Personally, I think developmental edits are a complete waste of money UNLESS that editor has a proven track record of editing books that become bestsellers. But even then, I still question if it’s worth the money. There are a lot of editors out there taking authors’ money and providing very little value in return. Authors think they need developmental editing usually because they lack confidence, not because the story truly needs it. That money would better be spent producing the next novel instead-you learn much faster that way. But that’s my $0.02 that most people will ignore. :)
For copyediting, this is just a gut feel, but somewhere just shy of $0.01 a word or less is what I’d be willing to pay for a copyedit if I were early in my career, and that would include one pass. Should the editor charge more than that, I would ask for two passes (the second pass almost serves as a proofread, but not quite-it’s really just to cleanup any errors introduced during the first pass). Proofreading would run south of the copyediting amount. The more experienced you become and the more money you make, the more you can pay for an editor (within reason).
You’ve got a great attitude. Keep up the good work. This does get simpler over time.
I'll keep shopping but I've yet to find a copy editor that's less than $0.01 -- I haven't spent a huge amount of time looking either. Part of my decision to not spend the money was listening to a lot of people talk about self publishing and what kinds of sales you can expect on your first book, and I have no doubt that a vast number of books have been self published on sold fewer than 100 copies. I remember one article that said you shouldn't count on more than few dozen. If I'd written a 80K word book, I suspect I'd have done it, but well over $1000 is a tough hill to get over on a fairly big risk - which a first book is.
Perhaps your right about developmental editing, I also think that's something that friends/family or even writing groups might be able to help with. I'm not that worried about it myself. My friends are really good at pointing out the weak spots, and with work I'll begin to fix them before I even comment words to page.
You don't seem to need more topics, but a possible video topic: How do I find sales figures for other similar books. How do Kindle ranking work and what things can you do to move up assuming you have the right keywords.
Keep up the great work.
I write blog posts of a technical nature for a variety of clients, and I broke down and purchased the year subscription of Grammarly. Love it. However, I noticed when I worked on fiction stories I too was having recommendations that if I accepted them would have destroyed the flow of my work (and yes I changed the setting to creative: novel or short story depending on what I was writing). I reached out to Grammarly concerning one error I saw over and over on my fiction work (I believe it was the unclear antecedent error) and asked if there was a way to tweak the settings so that it checked fiction a little different. The answer I got back was that while there was a fiction setting, its primary purpose was for non-fiction/business applications.
Yep, confirms exactly what I suspected. Not a bad thing; that’s why ProWritingAid is better for fiction. Thanks for sharing.
Completely agree.
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Great advice. Your videos save me time and money from using ineffective apps. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, Teresa! :)
Thank you for this video, I am working hard on my first fiction book, and it's really being rough on my writing, I think unnecessarily so. And that makes sense when you say it's better for nonfiction.
Very thorough and logical. Great job of breaking things down.
I concur. Plus, I immediately just like him. Subscribed!
This is such a great numerical comparison. Thanks.
thank you for giving the tip on which app is the best for nonfiction writers!
Subscribed! You're a great speaker and your content is easy to follow (seemed like you re-edit your script to perfection, haha.) I will be watching your videos from now on as I aspire to be a good writer. Thank you in advance 🎉
Welcome aboard! :)
Succinct yet comprehensive. Great job
I like your video. I like your style and delivery. Very helpful information. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful! I write podcast show notes and blog posts: social media, data science, business & finance, WordPress. All non-fiction topics, but Grammarly's annual cost is a deal-breaker for me. I'll try ProWritingAid premium and see how that goes. Thanks!
I am a professional copywriter for the last 21 years. And you're a rockstar.
Thank you. :)
I recommend watching your amazing videos!
nice video....in today's world we have numerous choices and often end up buying something we do not need....keep up the good work
You are right
Mahalo for your review!! Very helpful!!! ❤️
Glad it was helpful!
Grammar changed my formatting. Pro writing aid gave confusing suggestions. Grammarly is slow. Both changed my writing in a negative way. When using Google doc's spelling and grammar with the same writing I was back to square 1. A whole lot of mistakes.
They’re definitely not perfect. Some people’s mileage varies. That’s why I say they’re good as last lines of defense and not as primary editing tools.
makes complete sense. Only a couple other tNice tutorialngs I need to find out before I can actually make it work, but you’ve got more in depth
Hi,
How about writing scientific articles? which one do you prefer Pro writing aid or Grammarly?
Probably Grammarly. I don’t write scientific articles so I can’t give you 100% correct advice. :)
@@italkicambly2977 It's the same dilemma from the video. It depends on what you're writing, fiction or nonfiction, since the main focus of these apps are correct the mistakes in your texts, not teaching a language or to write better. Sorry if there is some confusing parts in this comment, English isn't my first language too.
Hello Michael, thank you for your comparison as I was on edge to go for Proweritingaid with Coupon from other RUclipsr. Am currently studying and I hope grammarly helps with the assignments. I have clicked on your link to make the payment with a one-year subscription.
Thank you so much!
@@AuthorLevelUp You most welcome, 1 more question:). Which one is better Coursehero.com or Studoc.com when it comes to writing essays and assignments for a masters level, to have an idea?
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I like to run stuff through Hemmingway after to fix flow.
I'm student and I usually write research papers and essay. So in this case what would suggest me Grammarly or ProWriting Aid ??
Thanks. I need a word processor, for students who are not that skilled, and can't recognize there problems. Most of them don't have the economic means either. The good, and bad of it, they improve, almost over night, and out grow the simple free processors we have for them. Sadly, most of students who are having trouble, also don't have access to the internet at home. They can make use of the library's Wifi, but they still do most of there work at home. It's difficult finding a word processor, that doesn't discriminate against the economically disadvantaged. I'm trying to find a word processor that works on most platforms, and isn't internet dependent.
Hemingway App might be weaker than both these apps, but it costs whopping 10 bucks for a lifetime license
I'm an nonfiction author and I love prowriting. I find grammarly too invasive on my writing style. I don't like arguing with my editing software
I’ve heard others say that as well. Your post should be helpful for others who might feel that way too.
Well, maybe you should listen to it sometimes because you used "an" instead of "a"
thanks buddy .your video was helpful
Great video! Thank you! I'm going to go with both. I write fiction and non-fiction. I will use your links.
i’m writing papers for college. like psychology assignments just 3-4 pages for that and another class is on cultural bias. mainly need grammar fix and spelling and ‘smarter’ words. which one would b better ? been using grammarly free but pro writing is way cheaper. i’m not needing for books etc. just these papers. want to get today if could respond soon would be great thank you !:)
I find that Grammarly just works better for academic and nonfiction work, especially premium. It's more accurate, easier to use, etc. But if ProWritingAid is what you can afford, you wouldn't be making a bad choice, either and it will do you a good job. Grammarly Premium will just be more accurate, in my opinion.
Author Level Up appreciate you getting back to me so fast. I’ll decide soon. found a discount code for pwa for 30$ compared to grammarlys 140 aha so if i do pick pwa hopefully it’s good!!
No problem. Good luck with your studies!
just compared both with one paper. feel grammarly is def easier and better even with this free version. for sure sticking with this.
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Excellent video suggestion. Subscribed!
Hey ALU, I use the editing software to write essays for graduate school applications. Which one do you recommend? Grammarly or PWA?
Hi author thanks for loving my comment. I struggle really bad writting and spelling in every aspect of it fb, social media, emails.. Anything. So was wondering what you think is best for me to go with grammarly or pro? As I am looking tk start writting my fiction novels this year have like ten already to work on. So was wondering what you thunk would be best. As I would be using it for all aspects day to day. But also heavily for fiction. Thanks
Hey Michael, this comparison is awesome but I have a real question to ask from you now. I am an online & social media network marketing guy and I mostly write about social media marketing stuff so just a regular blogger actually, for me which you recommend grammarly or pro writing aid? I really need to know your suggestion 😊 hope to hear from you soon 😊
Grammarly for sure. Thanks for watching!
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That was wonderfully succinct. Thank you.
Such a great an informative video! I've been using Grammarly free for a while, and it's been great. However, as I will soon be starting my thesis, was wondering if there were any of these you could recommend for my purpose. Do you have any experience with the Hemingway App as well?
Hi, I am kind of facing issues to write official emails since most of my recipients are senior managers. Which one do you suggest? In advance, thanks for your help
Grammarly for sure.
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Great video, Michael!
Which app do you think is better all around? I write and edit both fiction and non-fiction about evenly and would love to hear your thoughts on which you'd recommend in that situation.
Probably ProWritingAid just because of how accurate it is with fiction. If you had to pick just one, of course.
Thank you! I've never tried ProWritingAid, but will give it a try.
Any time. :)
Thanks this video this helped me to write my new nowel
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That’s great to hear! Glad it helped!
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With Grammarly, I've found it somewhat annoying as it misses stupid and obvious spelling errors and, grammar errors too. It also changes on the fly, words I've typed that were correct, and it substitutes them with incorrect words (false positives probably) which were so obviously wrong, even to a layman like myself.
Admittedly, I use the free version as I find the paid version too expensive for my needs... I write the occasional review for fun and use it in writing letters and emails.
My biggest disappointment is with Word from Microsoft, which I thought would be top-notch in grammar and spelling editing but it seems not so...
The above has been check with Grammarly.
Thanks for making this video. Which tool works with MS word on mac? I know grammarly doesn’t support it... which one does?
What about plagiarism? How accurate is Grammerly in that department?
Which is best for improving and fixing emails
I really enjoyed the video. I did have a question. Did you change the "type" of content when you switched samples in Grammarly? Thanks in advance.
Yes, I changed the types and experimented. It makes a bit difference. Check out my Grammarly review. I talk about switching types for my nonfiction.
Grammarly offers a professional expert writer to edit the paper, which professional writer would do a better job than either Grammarly or ProWritingAid.
Hi there , i really want to write products descriptions and copywriting , what do you suggest?! Thanks you !
Grammarly.
Can you recommend anything for the academic writing feature?
I cannot as I don’t do academic writing. Sorry!
I despise Grammarly. It constantly interrupted me during a first draft. It was impossible to ignore, and after I dismissed the suggestions, they came back. Over and over and over. It was particularly bad with nonstandard English such as dialect and fantasy names. I was also unable to submit forms on some websites until I found a browser button to disable Grammarly for individual sites. I took a more permanant solution. Uninstalled.
The price of this in the UK is way more unfortunately your video won me over on it as I will write fiction, but its £210 in England.
Am using an iphone 6 but i have failed to get the grammerly keyboard to work on ios
I’m not a huge fan of the keyboard. I used it for an extended period after this video and found it to be unresponsive and not as sharp with autocorrect. Grammarly has a world class user experience team though so I expect it to get better.
Have you ever looked at SmartEdit? The reason I asked is that I really like Atomic Scribbler, and in addition to the usual MS Word add-on, it integrates seamlessly with Atomic Scribbler. A.S. is free, and I like the idea of making sure the developer gets paid, somehow. BUT I don't want to buy junk either. I've used the free trial, and I like it well enough, but I'm a newbie fiction writer, and I'd like to see what someone with some experience thinks.
I haven’t used SmartEdit. I may check it out.
Thank you 😊
Which one is best for a uni student with english as a second language?
No idea. I'd test them and see which one works better for you.
Great video Michael. You have a subscriber.
hi
I am weak in the English language, whether in grammar or vocabulary, and I would like to write articles in English, can I rely on the premium Grammarly or premium prowritingaid after I have translated the article into Google Translate?
I don't see the links to sign up through you - help!
www.authorlevelup.com/grammarly and www.authorlevelup/prowritingaid
both the GMS and softEX setup is very different from the one ur using.. why is it so.? GMS doesn't even soft like a app one... and the
I want a app that i put words in and it makes them to a sentences 😀
now it's 240 for lifetime
Hello, I'm uni student I write a lot, which is the best for me please?
Hi! I'm just a college student doing essays, which one would be good for me? grammarly or ProWritingAid?
Thank you so much !
Grammarly for sure. Good luck!
thanks!
Hey do you have a link for your books?
www.authorlevelup.com/books for my nonfiction and www.michaellaronn.com/books for my fiction
ProWritingAid's lifetime price is not at $399... huge change
If you get stuck with a sentence, does these tools help to complete the sentence?
+The Fart Queen No unfortunately.
If you forget to capitalize a letter, will ProWrittingAid catch on to it? I am thinking about going with ProWittinAid. Thankyou for your amazing review.
do you offer editing service for nonfiction book.
I liked your video, however, listening to you vs many other commentators on the caption, you seem to be very bias towards Grammarly. That is your experience, so that's fine. However, writing aid seems to be more proficient in capturing all types of writers from beginners to professionals. that is just my personal opinion. Ps I have both programs
Which is totally free
They both offer free versions.
good review
First, I was actually watching this video to get tips on creating how-to vlogs: I really liked your script, pacing, most of your cuts and transitions--but your framing I think is the weak point,
May I know what does "framing" means? Thank you ^^
How can I give more than one like????
+Aquila Heman You can always share the video with friends. That’s the equivalent of hitting the like button twice. :P
Grammarly
Is there any privacy issue ?
Thank you, I am going with Pro Writing because its cheaper, for my iPad or iPhone i'll use garmmarly free version
guys who got a grammarly ad on this video
I am using Grammarly for this comment! isn't it funny?
You kinda look like Michael from the good place
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Buy? No way!
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No Autocrit review? :-(
Not right now. I wasn't terribly impressed with it, to be honest. Maybe in the future as they improve it. I don't believe in publishing reviews if I can't highlight any positives. :(
Author Level Up fair enough - horses for courses as the saying goes, I got a lot of value out of it but recognise it may not be for everyone
OK. You convinced me. I gave ProWritingAid a try and it is much easier to use with the integration features with Scrivener. No more cutting and pasting for me. I still think Autocrit gave a much better analysis of the text, for correcting grammar only - I will be switching to ProWritingAid. Thank you for making my life much easier :-)
Any time! :)
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