There was a shortage of silk during WW2. I remember my Mum telling me about gravy browning and drawing seams on legs. When my Grandad was demobbed from the RAF, he brought back a pilots escape map - it was made of silk and quite colourful. So Mum could use it as a headscarf. Still have it to remember them both by...
@@EndertheWeek In my opinion, the most interesting use of nylon in WW2 was as the string that held German dogtags to the neck, as almost 90 years later, when the skeletons are dug up, the red nylon chord looks brand new.
My friend Lilian bought a some escape maps just after the end of the war in Europe. Silk was still short because it was being used for parachutes in the Asian front. She made herself a complete set of silk underwear and a nightie. I think her sister donated it to the Imperial War Museum when Lillian died.
After Leo Marks (head of codes at SOE) finally got rid of the disasterous 'Poem code', he had one-time code keys printed on silk for radio-operators to use. Special emphasis had to made in training to ensure these codes were cut away and destroyed after use (meaning the Gestapo couldn't torture keys out of agents to read their previous traffic, to overcome their reluctance to burn such a valuable material! Silk was readily concealable in street-searches. Marks got his way in the production of these by stating that the choice was "Between Silk, and Cyanide" - an excellent and occasionally amusing post-war memoire.
First segment: Stephen getting the story right, but the invasion wrong- The Man Who Never Was was misdirection between Sicily and Greece in the Mediterranean theatre.
I'm so pleased that this comment is the first on the list (and not even pinned). And the submarine that dropped his body in the water was the USS Serif, one of the few vessels to ever carry the title of both HMS & USS.
All organised by the same department that Ian Fleming allegedly / apparently worked for too, but then there are so many stories about him and what he did, I'm sure that he was delighted to have so many stories be circulated about him.
@@kiwitrainguy Thanks for the extra info. Interesting. I think it was Seraph rather than Serif, but close enough for me to find it. According to wiki it was re-named to carry the French general Giraud and his staff to meet Eisenhower. He'd refused to board a British vessel so it was 're-badged'. He wasn't fooled by the fake accents of the crew though. After Mers El Kebir many French people were not overly keen on the British. The same emotional baggage was not there when dealing with the Americans.
Sorry to break it to you. That was everybody's grandad. Except mine. He never cracked a smile in 86 years. I shot an elephant in my pyjamas How he got in my pyjamas I'll never know. Not now anyway
You and I know that . Its probable that someone at the BBC was also aware. But do not expect left wing twits who rather make fun of those who allowed them to be born.
@@mrcaboosevg6089 IIRC, they made what were apparently preparations to invade Norway in order to prevent the Germans from moving their troops there to France, and the Germans were fooled by them.
The gravestone of "Major William Martin RM" in Huelva was changed to read "Glyndwr Michael. Served as Major William Martin RM" after the British Government identified him in 1998.
I reckon it wasn’t him. No homeless man living rough could stand in for a Marine officer. I think he was a fit sailor, drowned when the escort aircraft carrier, HMS Dasher exploded and sank in the Firth of Clyde.
I was very privileged to have as a very good friend a man named Peter Martin who was the son of Major (Captain) William Martin who worked with Ian Fleming during WWII, and was the given name of the deceased Welsh man. William agreed to his name being used to add significant weight to the subterfuge. William was actually sent to the US under another name while his name was being used in the subterfuge. To make things even more convincing, William's wife, mother of Peter who was a young boy, was informed of the death of William. Peter said: "When the war ended, my father returned and had a lot of explaining to do to his mother."
Oh dear, Alan: the high trouser was to make sure that your shirt didn't show beneath your waistcoat in a 3-piece suit. It also kept your tummy and back warm in chilly England.
Pretty sure that the poor fellow dropped at the coast of Gibralta, was before the invasion of Sicily. So the Germans thought the landing would be in Greece.
@@lexdunn4160 well I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think Im wrong please send a link to a source. Would really appreatiate it.
@@lexdunn4160 I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think I´m wrong, could you please send a link to a source so I can get my facts straight. Would really appreatiate it.
@@lexdunn4160 According to Wikipedia, Operation Mincemeat was before the Sicily invasion.. If you have better info, could you please tell me where to obtain that info, so I can get my facts straight. thx
Fun fact: the flat where Alois and Bridgette Hitler lived was destroyed in the last German air raid on Liverpool of the war, and the buildings were never rebuilt - it's an open field. If you want to look it up, it's the junction of Upper Stanhope Street and Carter Street, Liverpool. For some reason there's a high density of religious buildings in the immediate area, including a huge synagogue
John Cunningham, went on to become the chief test pilot for DeHaviland aircraft company in Hatfield Hertfordshire. My dad meet him a few times in the BAe systems social club . The factory closed in 1990
Point to note:- if you baste carrots in butter & roast them in foil, they’re very sweet & tasty. Boiling them does no justice. (Also, onions are sweet too)
Well grown carrots are sweet regardless. I dare say that supermarkets buy on uniformity and weight rather than what some of we peasants consider to be quality.
@@RiseOfTheMachines-s7u There's also loads of different sorts of carrots with very different tastes. We grow 2 sorts that doesn't taste that sweet but are great for winter storage and one sort that grows fast, taste very sweet but spoil easier. We also have wild carrots growing here, they taste horrible 😂
@@helenahsson1697 Yes it is a shame really that Supermarkets don't bother with the variety of most vegetables or even fruit. Many types never make the shelves. There is a pear tree near me that has the most delicious pears but if you miss the week when they ripen then forget it. I can't remember what age I was when I realized not all carrots are equal - but it was not when I was young !
There is a German verb "eichen" meaning to gauge, to adjust or to calibrate. So the name Eichmann could also be a profession surname like smith or taylor. But I'm no expert in etymology...🤔
Onomastics (or onomatology in older texts) is the study of proper names, including their etymology, history, and use. Not many people know this - including me till I looked it up.
What's the difference between a rock musician and a jazz musician? A rock musician plays three chords to a thousand people and a jazz musician plays a thousand chords to three people. 😝
Minor correction re Monty only allowed Churchill to smoke. He also allowed King George to smoke in his presence. Ike, who was a chain smoker and Monty’s superior could also I suspect smoke in Monty’s presence too.
Cats Eyes Cunnigham was a Night Fighter Pilot, not a bomber pilot. His squadron was the first to use Airborne Radar, originally in Blenheims, which were too slow, and then in Beaufighters.
The French did have a bad reputation re keeping secrets. De Gaulle was disliked by the other Allied leaders and even went to Moscow where he made agreements with Stalin without discussing them first with Churchill and Roosevelt. He was determined that France would not be dominated by Britain and the USA and that as soon as the D Day invasion began his French supporters would take over, not any other political group.
@@nigeh5326 But at the same time he couldn't comprehend why other countries didn't care about France as much as he did. I believe in 'Their Finest Hour' by Churchill he talks about the French requesting the entire British air force several times and genuinely being angry when they wouldn't give it to them. French arrogance blows me away.
"Dead person ringing" has already happened. Numbers used to be recycled after 6 months; after an incident with a young person, two decades ago, it was extended to 2 years.
Middle Wallop, did my basic tech training on helicopters there, also my upgraders. Home of 70 Ac Wksp and D & T Sqn. Also home of the AAC. nearby are Nether Wallop and Over Wallop. It was also, I believe, the largest grass airfield in WWII.
I actually got a call on the number of a dead collegue, who was dead for about a decade then, that had indeed been recycled. It was off course a wrong number being dialed by the current user of that phone number. But I was sure surprised when that number came up on the mobile. And after the call I realised: Yes, off course, the phone companies recycle the numbers.
After my dad passed away I didn’t delete his number from my phone and a couple years later I get a call from his number. His picture popped up and his ringtone I had for him played. I was freaked out. I answered it and it was my stepmother. She had lost her phone and used my dad’s phone to call me and ask what to do. I first told her to never call from that number again because I almost had a heart-attack. I told her about his picture popping up and his ringtone and she apologized and we had a good laugh. I don’t know if she ever cancelled his number but she never called from it again. I still haven’t deleted his number. Lol
The Quaker pacifist lady: "We should have dealt with Hitler before the war". How? What should Chamberlain have done differently when appeasement didn't work? Churchill knew it wouldn't work.
That’s not quite what she said. She didn’t mention “Hitler” specifically. She also wasn’t talking about “appeasement”. You need to think earlier than that. She’s talking about the conditions in Germany that WE created that allowed Hitler to come to power. We shouldn’t have neutered Germany after the First World War. By doing what we did (severe punishment which the US wanted to town down but the UK and France wanted revenge) we created the perfect conditions for lunatics to come in, blame the Jews for their economic woes, began a fascist movement that promised to fix it all whilst violently silencing political dissent… If you don’t understand what she means by dealing with it BEFORE the war started, you shouldn’t really be commenting on history because it’s pretty clear you understand too little of it.
@@Roz-y2dit makes perfect sense if you have some historical knowledge of the post-WW1 environment created by the allies that allowed Hitler to rise to power…
@@Roz-y2d You doubt it on what grounds? The events leading up to WW2 is a fairly commonly taught subject in England, it was a huge part of the history curriculum when I was in secondary school.
Sadly, Fry got his facts wrong on carrots. Cunningham flew his nightfighter over Britain, not Germany, and the propaganda was nothing to do with bombers, just nightfighters (the propaganda preceded the use of radar in bombers).
A few points of trivia. The book 'Night Fighter' written by Cunningham's radar operator (Rawnsley) is one of the best true WW2 stories. It combines genuine adventure, with a detailed description of the desperate 'continuous contest of measures and countermeasure of technology' between the RAF and Luftwaffe, tinged with the human dimension of dealing with the fact that your survival was fairly unlikely. Never made into a movie because the action at night would be very difficult to transfer to the screen. Cunningham went on to become a test pilot after WW2. The last aicraft he test flew was Concorde.
@@ripdbtpoo1441 Another fine book is 'Enemy Coast Ahead' written by Guy Gibson (who led the dambuster raid) whilst on leave during the war after the raid. He talks about Barnes Wallace and the bomb but in a very careful way to not reveal what he is actually talking about. Apparently, he toured America on a propaganda tour and when asked how many missions he had flown they were astounded to hear 175 since American pilots expected to be replaced after 25. Gibson went back to active duty and did not survive. It was censored but I have read that an uncensored version has been printed since. p.s. He also flew night fighters at one period but could never find the enemy.
0:30 I'm sure someone shouts "Testicle" as Bill is saying, "Beware I've got one...." because it's exactly what I was thinking but they totally missed it!
4:05 I remember finding my grandparents old address book and there were so many names with a red line drawn through them, and a date written beside it. Turns out that it was the date that person had died....
Jazz - A group of musicians all playing different tunes at once, a drummer keeping time with no-one in particular, and someone blowing random notes on a trumpet.
We like infixes e.g. "abso - bloody - lutely!", as an emphasis. Stephen Fry has taken that into the territory of the absurd and we find it funny. He first did this kind of bit back in the days of 'Fry and Laurie' (Hugh Laurie was his colleague). So, in part, I think many people in the audience remember how they did 'that kind of stuff' - the verbose and ridiculous - so well and it's still funny. Hope that helps.
@@HALLish-jl5mo yeah I see what you mean, but that’s more just misrepresentation of information, which they do all the time. Like when they say that WW2 technically ended in 1985 or whatever. This is just objectively wrong though.
Because what to people interested in an area is obvious, is to the great majority unknown. So unless you are knowledgeable about Operation Mincemeat you will never realise the researcher has cocked up. A lot of shows do it. Like you I find it irritating.
The ordinary soldiers did know at least a few days in advance of D-Day (they might not have known the exact day, but they knew it was very very imminent). My Gran's brother was sent to visit his family on embarkation leave and told to tell them "oh I just have a few days' leave" but not tell them why. While home, he told my Gran "when you here the lads have landed in France in the next few days, I'll be there- don't tell anyone!". My Gran was only 15 at the time and she felt the weight of responsibility of knowing a national secret. It terrified her but she didn't tell anyone, even her parents. Even when the news started coming through on the radio, she still didn't tell anyone she'd had advance warning. Poor kid! It makes me wonder how many other families got told a few days in advance by visiting soldiers saying "don't tell anyone, but...".
My grandmother and her sister grew up in Kidderminster and they used to talk to the many Canadians stationed not far from them. Then a few days before the invasion they all disappeared and everyone guessed they had gone to the coast to embark. It must have been the same for many Brits one day there are troops everywhere next day they’ve gone. It’s amazing how good the double cross system worked to keep the secret from the Nazis. If Nazi spies had been free in the population and had managed to warn Hitler and be believed it could have cost thousands more lives.
@@nigeh5326 Back then it was easy to tell a local from a foreign agent. Not so much now. I wonder how it would all pan out these days. I also wonder what is happening either side of the Russia Ukraine war. There must be many strange stories yet to be told.
@@Roz-y2d In Britain mincemeat has nothing to do with meat. It is a savoury mixture of currants and the like used in mince pies - which have nothing at all to do with mince. Mince being ground actual meat or, the way Stephen Fry walks.
In my first year at university in the nineties we had to research the swing kids and watch the 1993 movie about them. It was from reading about the swing kids that I first learned about the white rose resistance organisation in Germany.
We will never know who the man who never was really was. He certainly was not a Welsh down and out named Glyndwr Michael who died months before the deception operation was mounted. Such a cadaver could not have convinced any pathologist that it had been recently drowned (when it hadn't been drowned at all) and was a healthy young man, irrespective of how well it had been preserved in a mortuary. In fact it is far more likely that it was one of those who drowned when HMS Dasher, an aircraft carrier, exploded in the Clyde in May 1943. The Glyndwr Michael story was concocted because the body of a supposed suicide, as Michael was, had no rights in law, whereas a serviceman who drowned serving his country had to be properly interred if possible. The corpse was probably stolen by the officers who mounted the operation and it's true identity went to the grave with them because body snatching is a serious crime (remember Burke and Hare) and they would certainly never have told anybody the truth.
He liked dogs and wanted to increase the old age pension. Nobody is entirely evil and certainly, he was not voted for and widely admired for being evil.
Anyone who has watched the film The Longest Day will know about the dummy parachutists and what name was given to them. However the 'Rupert' shown in the film was nothing like the real thing. Hollywood going over the top as usual.
hitler had the mustache because the extended bits got stuck outside his helmet during a mustard gas raid when he was a soldier in WW1, they got burned and he had to cut them off
Re: Hitler's broom handle mustache: there's a theory that while front line German soldiers in World War One trimmed their mustaches to fit into gas masks without breaking the seal, Hitler adopted the style in 1919 as a form of stolen valor. He had not served on the front lines, but wanted to adopt the style that many who had served there wore, so that he could claim risk he never took and danger he never suffered, to increase his prestige as a veteran.
I think you will find that Hitler not only served in the frontline area but was gassed and or wounded and was in hospital when the armistice came in to affect, and was reputed to have cried bitterly at the thought Germany had lost
I rember Fry asking what percentage of R.A.F pilots in WW2 went to public schools. The answer was (surprisingly) small, but i couldn't help noticing that 100% of the guests went to public school. So much for social equality!
The rate of attrition was such that the RAF were taking anyone who had any aptitude to fly, and in some cases less than 10 hours training in a Hurricane or Spitfire, were sent up against the Luftwaffe. Schooling was less important than bums in cockpits.
There was, a few years ago a 'Guardian list' that had all the Guardian newspaper columnists and their schools. It turns out that diversity does not include diverse education.
Easily done for anyone who isn't British. For those of us in Australia while we did fight on the western front in WWI it was more about Gallipoli and then WW2 it was the Pacific theatre. Both world wars had more participants then just Britain and Germany so your statement that 99% would jump out the window is false.
Absolutely, it was people going to fight wars that were able to create conditions for a sense of stability and peace. A pacifist like vegetarians see things in very simplistic terms... A or B is bad. Therefore, I'll find100 reasons why
She's actually the polar opposite of naive. How unwell is your brain that you can't tolerate someone baldly saying that killing is bad without telling yourself that she must be stupid?
If nothing else, pacifists encourage us to think about the causes of conflict and how to militate them. Not a bad thing really. Now back to fart jokes!
The Man who never was was a Scot who had died of pneumonia (so lungs wet as if drowned) and who's father gave permission for his body to be used on the condition he had a proper Christian funeral -which he did - and his grave is in Spain with his real name on it.
As it happens most young folk hate jazz, it is your lot that love it because you think it is a sign of taste. Jazz is not a sign of taste. You lot have jazz snobbery
At the moment it doesn’t but hopefully after the election the next government will employ more people to process claims in the countries migrants come from and in a centre built in France. They will also increase the funding to the National Crime Agency to stop the criminal gangs making a fortune from cross channel migrants
Shame they did no research on the man with no name. He dies from pneumonia, which laeftw after in his lungs, and asked his mother if they could use his body.
Haven't watched a second but if sandi is in this I bet it takes her under a minute to redirect the discussion to include some Danish or vaguely scandinavian "interesting point"
I quite miss the days when QI had actual intelligent comedians and good questions. I may be biased since I grew up watching QI with Stephen Fry, and I will admit I am not a fan of Sandy and the newer seasons.
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There was a shortage of silk during WW2. I remember my Mum telling me about gravy browning and drawing seams on legs. When my Grandad was demobbed from the RAF, he brought back a pilots escape map - it was made of silk and quite colourful. So Mum could use it as a headscarf. Still have it to remember them both by...
Nylon was just being invented but "nylons" became a very desired product during and after the war.
Parachutes were made of silk. That's why your mum couldn't have stockings.
@@EndertheWeek In my opinion, the most interesting use of nylon in WW2 was as the string that held German dogtags to the neck, as almost 90 years later, when the skeletons are dug up, the red nylon chord looks brand new.
My friend Lilian bought a some escape maps just after the end of the war in Europe. Silk was still short because it was being used for parachutes in the Asian front. She made herself a complete set of silk underwear and a nightie. I think her sister donated it to the Imperial War Museum when Lillian died.
After Leo Marks (head of codes at SOE) finally got rid of the disasterous 'Poem code', he had one-time code keys printed on silk for radio-operators to use. Special emphasis had to made in training to ensure these codes were cut away and destroyed after use (meaning the Gestapo couldn't torture keys out of agents to read their previous traffic, to overcome their reluctance to burn such a valuable material! Silk was readily concealable in street-searches. Marks got his way in the production of these by stating that the choice was "Between Silk, and Cyanide" - an excellent and occasionally amusing post-war memoire.
First segment: Stephen getting the story right, but the invasion wrong- The Man Who Never Was was misdirection between Sicily and Greece in the Mediterranean theatre.
Correct. The name of the body used was Glyndwr Michael.
And his body ended up off Huelva not Gibraltar
I'm so pleased that this comment is the first on the list (and not even pinned).
And the submarine that dropped his body in the water was the USS Serif, one of the few vessels to ever carry the title of both HMS & USS.
All organised by the same department that Ian Fleming allegedly / apparently worked for too, but then there are so many stories about him and what he did, I'm sure that he was delighted to have so many stories be circulated about him.
@@kiwitrainguy Thanks for the extra info. Interesting. I think it was Seraph rather than Serif, but close enough for me to find it. According to wiki it was re-named to carry the French general Giraud and his staff to meet Eisenhower. He'd refused to board a British vessel so it was 're-badged'. He wasn't fooled by the fake accents of the crew though.
After Mers El Kebir many French people were not overly keen on the British. The same emotional baggage was not there when dealing with the Americans.
My grandad always said "Carrots are good for your eyesight. Or have you ever seen a rabbit wearing glasses?"
Sorry to break it to you. That was everybody's grandad. Except mine. He never cracked a smile in 86 years.
I shot an elephant in my pyjamas
How he got in my pyjamas I'll never know. Not now anyway
your grandad didnt know what mixie was huh
The Man Who Never Was, was a diversion tactic for the Sicily landings, not D-Day
You and I know that . Its probable that someone at the BBC was also aware. But do not expect left wing twits who rather make fun of those who allowed them to be born.
There was a few of them, if i recall correctly they did the same in Norway and in France
@@mrcaboosevg6089 IIRC, they made what were apparently preparations to invade Norway in order to prevent the Germans from moving their troops there to France, and the Germans were fooled by them.
The gravestone of "Major William Martin RM" in Huelva was changed to read "Glyndwr Michael. Served as Major William Martin RM" after the British Government identified him in 1998.
I reckon it wasn’t him. No homeless man living rough could stand in for a Marine officer. I think he was a fit sailor, drowned when the escort aircraft carrier, HMS Dasher exploded and sank in the Firth of Clyde.
@@SvenTviking You can think anything you like, but the paper trail appears to be fairly clear.
I was very privileged to have as a very good friend a man named Peter Martin who was the son of Major (Captain) William Martin who worked with Ian Fleming during WWII, and was the given name of the deceased Welsh man.
William agreed to his name being used to add significant weight to the subterfuge.
William was actually sent to the US under another name while his name was being used in the subterfuge. To make things even more convincing, William's wife, mother of Peter who was a young boy, was informed of the death of William.
Peter said: "When the war ended, my father returned and had a lot of explaining to do to his mother."
The Man Who Never Was was too young to have a son. He was just a young lad. He was Scottish. (And definitely NOT Scotch!)
@@rosemarylusty8045 Actually he was Welsh.
@@rosemarylusty8045He was welsh and you don’t pay attention!
Oh dear, Alan: the high trouser was to make sure that your shirt didn't show beneath your waistcoat in a 3-piece suit. It also kept your tummy and back warm in chilly England.
Pretty sure that the poor fellow dropped at the coast of Gibralta, was before the invasion of Sicily. So the Germans thought the landing would be in Greece.
I’m. No. You are incorrect. Stephen is right, as usual.
@@lexdunn4160 well I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think Im wrong please send a link to a source. Would really appreatiate it.
@@lexdunn4160 I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think I´m wrong, could you please send a link to a source so I can get my facts straight. Would really appreatiate it.
@@lexdunn4160 According to Wikipedia, Operation Mincemeat was before the Sicily invasion.. If you have better info, could you please tell me where to obtain that info, so I can get my facts straight. thx
@@bornskinny77 Indeed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was_(book)
Victoria's comment on Bill clicking his fingers!!! I wonder what "bad things" she was thinking of committing!
Fun fact: the flat where Alois and Bridgette Hitler lived was destroyed in the last German air raid on Liverpool of the war, and the buildings were never rebuilt - it's an open field. If you want to look it up, it's the junction of Upper Stanhope Street and Carter Street, Liverpool. For some reason there's a high density of religious buildings in the immediate area, including a huge synagogue
TY - I'm from south Liverpool and knew the Hitler connection but not so much detail.
John Cunningham, went on to become the chief test pilot for DeHaviland aircraft company in Hatfield Hertfordshire. My dad meet him a few times in the BAe systems social club . The factory closed in 1990
Don't mention the War.
What war?
@@paulhammons7077 thats the ticket.
Stephen is sorely missed. It was a difficult seat to fill and the BBC missed the mark as per usual.
War facts should be behind glass that reads "Break if the Germans start getting a little too serious"
I'll mention the war if I want to.
"Cat's eyes Cunningham" was in fact a Beaufighter night fighter pilot, not a bomber pilot.
Beaufighter could be used in bombing role, at the very least it was used as a ground strike aircraft as well as a Naval Bomber
Point to note:- if you baste carrots in butter & roast them in foil, they’re very sweet & tasty. Boiling them does no justice.
(Also, onions are sweet too)
Well grown carrots are sweet regardless. I dare say that supermarkets buy on uniformity and weight rather than what some of we peasants consider to be quality.
@@RiseOfTheMachines-s7u There's also loads of different sorts of carrots with very different tastes. We grow 2 sorts that doesn't taste that sweet but are great for winter storage and one sort that grows fast, taste very sweet but spoil easier.
We also have wild carrots growing here, they taste horrible 😂
@@helenahsson1697 Yes it is a shame really that Supermarkets don't bother with the variety of most vegetables or even fruit.
Many types never make the shelves. There is a pear tree near me that has the most delicious pears but if you miss the week when they ripen then forget it.
I can't remember what age I was when I realized not all carrots are equal - but it was not when I was young !
For anyone that doesn't know, you don't need to cut a moustache off to fit under a gasmask. the seal is along the jaw and neck.
There is a German verb "eichen" meaning to gauge, to adjust or to calibrate. So the name Eichmann could also be a profession surname like smith or taylor. But I'm no expert in etymology...🤔
Onomastics (or onomatology in older texts) is the study of proper names, including their etymology, history, and use.
Not many people know this - including me till I looked it up.
Eiche is German for oak, it's more likely to just be the equivalent of the English surname Oakman.
What's the difference between a rock musician and a jazz musician?
A rock musician plays three chords to a thousand people and a jazz musician plays a thousand chords to three people. 😝
I'm stealing this.
Minor correction re Monty only allowed Churchill to smoke.
He also allowed King George to smoke in his presence.
Ike, who was a chain smoker and Monty’s superior could also I suspect smoke in Monty’s presence too.
Damn fine of Field Marshal Montgomery to allow the King Emperor to smoke if he so wished.
The King was [nominally] head of the armed forces, so was Monty's boss.
Cats Eyes Cunnigham was a Night Fighter Pilot, not a bomber pilot. His squadron was the first to use Airborne Radar, originally in Blenheims, which were too slow, and then in Beaufighters.
Reading about bigot etc. It says that you could'nt tell the French, including DeGaulle anything, and have it kept secret
It was not wrong.
The French did have a bad reputation re keeping secrets.
De Gaulle was disliked by the other Allied leaders and even went to Moscow where he made agreements with Stalin without discussing them first with Churchill and Roosevelt.
He was determined that France would not be dominated by Britain and the USA and that as soon as the D Day invasion began his French supporters would take over, not any other political group.
@@nigeh5326 But at the same time he couldn't comprehend why other countries didn't care about France as much as he did. I believe in 'Their Finest Hour' by Churchill he talks about the French requesting the entire British air force several times and genuinely being angry when they wouldn't give it to them. French arrogance blows me away.
"Dead person ringing" has already happened. Numbers used to be recycled after 6 months; after an incident with a young person, two decades ago, it was extended to 2 years.
Middle Wallop, did my basic tech training on helicopters there, also my upgraders. Home of 70 Ac Wksp and D & T Sqn. Also home of the AAC. nearby are Nether Wallop and Over Wallop. It was also, I believe, the largest grass airfield in WWII.
My Dad was AAC, went to many an Airday in Middle wallop. I think they were in Detmold when we were in Germany.
I actually got a call on the number of a dead collegue, who was dead for about a decade then, that had indeed been recycled. It was off course a wrong number being dialed by the current user of that phone number. But I was sure surprised when that number came up on the mobile. And after the call I realised: Yes, off course, the phone companies recycle the numbers.
After my dad passed away I didn’t delete his number from my phone and a couple years later I get a call from his number. His picture popped up and his ringtone I had for him played. I was freaked out. I answered it and it was my stepmother. She had lost her phone and used my dad’s phone to call me and ask what to do. I first told her to never call from that number again because I almost had a heart-attack. I told her about his picture popping up and his ringtone and she apologized and we had a good laugh. I don’t know if she ever cancelled his number but she never called from it again. I still haven’t deleted his number. Lol
On the 11/11/24 I look around and wonder what our brave soldiers gave their lives for
I'm not mature enough to not laugh at Stephen saying, it's the sort of thing that pops up now and then.
The Quaker pacifist lady: "We should have dealt with Hitler before the war". How? What should Chamberlain have done differently when appeasement didn't work? Churchill knew it wouldn't work.
Yes, didn’t make sense did it?
That’s not quite what she said. She didn’t mention “Hitler” specifically. She also wasn’t talking about “appeasement”. You need to think earlier than that.
She’s talking about the conditions in Germany that WE created that allowed Hitler to come to power.
We shouldn’t have neutered Germany after the First World War. By doing what we did (severe punishment which the US wanted to town down but the UK and France wanted revenge) we created the perfect conditions for lunatics to come in, blame the Jews for their economic woes, began a fascist movement that promised to fix it all whilst violently silencing political dissent…
If you don’t understand what she means by dealing with it BEFORE the war started, you shouldn’t really be commenting on history because it’s pretty clear you understand too little of it.
@@Roz-y2dit makes perfect sense if you have some historical knowledge of the post-WW1 environment created by the allies that allowed Hitler to rise to power…
@@lukefreeman828 Yes, but I doubt Miss Hancock has that knowledge! And I’m not saying I do either.
@@Roz-y2d You doubt it on what grounds? The events leading up to WW2 is a fairly commonly taught subject in England, it was a huge part of the history curriculum when I was in secondary school.
The German Spymaster was actually a double agent working for the British. Canaris was his surname if I remember correctly.
Whatever happened to Clive Andersen ? And Rich Hall
That Minchin series on the road with the teenager is great.
Very good!
Sadly, Fry got his facts wrong on carrots. Cunningham flew his nightfighter over Britain, not Germany, and the propaganda was nothing to do with bombers, just nightfighters (the propaganda preceded the use of radar in bombers).
A few points of trivia. The book 'Night Fighter' written by Cunningham's radar operator (Rawnsley) is one of the best true WW2 stories. It combines genuine adventure, with a detailed description of the desperate 'continuous contest of measures and countermeasure of technology' between the RAF and Luftwaffe, tinged with the human dimension of dealing with the fact that your survival was fairly unlikely. Never made into a movie because the action at night would be very difficult to transfer to the screen. Cunningham went on to become a test pilot after WW2. The last aicraft he test flew was Concorde.
@@tacitdionysus3220 Thank you. All too little interesting stuff in the comments, O unspoken god of wine.
@@ripdbtpoo1441 Another fine book is 'Enemy Coast Ahead' written by Guy Gibson (who led the dambuster raid) whilst on leave during the war after the raid. He talks about Barnes Wallace and the bomb but in a very careful way to not reveal what he is actually talking about.
Apparently, he toured America on a propaganda tour and when asked how many missions he had flown they were astounded to hear 175 since American pilots expected to be replaced after 25. Gibson went back to active duty and did not survive.
It was censored but I have read that an uncensored version has been printed since.
p.s. He also flew night fighters at one period but could never find the enemy.
0:30 I'm sure someone shouts "Testicle" as Bill is saying, "Beware I've got one...." because it's exactly what I was thinking but they totally missed it!
the man was to hide the invasion of Sicily. Great movie.
I read the book. The letter written by one of the female staff members posing as his lover to put into his wallet is so moving.
4:05 I remember finding my grandparents old address book and there were so many names with a red line drawn through them, and a date written beside it.
Turns out that it was the date that person had died....
You should considering combining those comedy clips that kept interrupting the adverts and maybe releasing them on RUclips.
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Jazz - A group of musicians all playing different tunes at once, a drummer keeping time with no-one in particular, and someone blowing random notes on a trumpet.
"Jazz is a bunch of guys on the stage, having a better time than anyone in the audience" - Noel Gallagher
And here I thought I was alone in my opinion of Jazz.
Yep sounds about right imo 😊
Never liked jazz
@@LukasOfTheLightdoes Noel Gallagher play jazz then 🤔
Alan Davis is quite childish sometimes
15:04 - I've heard Stephen do his "as you rightly say / as you rightly pointed out" bit a few times. Can someone explain this to a confused Yank?
What do you mean? He’s just saying “yeah, you’re right.” Does that make sense or are you asking why he’s breaking up the words?
It's a very British way of acknowledging and crediting something someone has said.
We like infixes e.g. "abso - bloody - lutely!", as an emphasis. Stephen Fry has taken that into the territory of the absurd and we find it funny.
He first did this kind of bit back in the days of 'Fry and Laurie' (Hugh Laurie was his colleague).
So, in part, I think many people in the audience remember how they did 'that kind of stuff' - the verbose and ridiculous - so well and it's still funny.
Hope that helps.
As you rightly say etc is just the way some Brits speak especially if they have had a university education
How could they possibly allow those errors about Operation Mincemeat to air?
It's QI, they've been wrong about how many moons the earth has 4 times, with a different wrong number each time.
@@HALLish-jl5mo yeah I see what you mean, but that’s more just misrepresentation of information, which they do all the time. Like when they say that WW2 technically ended in 1985 or whatever. This is just objectively wrong though.
Because what to people interested in an area is obvious, is to the great majority unknown.
So unless you are knowledgeable about Operation Mincemeat you will never realise the researcher has cocked up.
A lot of shows do it.
Like you I find it irritating.
@@nigeh5326 but this is QI. They literally have people researching stuff as the show is being recorded!
Mate, the news is questionable oftentimes so pick your battles.
Oh yeh? Monty let Churchill smoke? Churchill smoked, full stop. Don't like it Monty?
He also allowed Kinv George to smoke and I would suspect Ike smoked in his presence too as Ike was Supreme Commander
The ordinary soldiers did know at least a few days in advance of D-Day (they might not have known the exact day, but they knew it was very very imminent). My Gran's brother was sent to visit his family on embarkation leave and told to tell them "oh I just have a few days' leave" but not tell them why. While home, he told my Gran "when you here the lads have landed in France in the next few days, I'll be there- don't tell anyone!". My Gran was only 15 at the time and she felt the weight of responsibility of knowing a national secret. It terrified her but she didn't tell anyone, even her parents. Even when the news started coming through on the radio, she still didn't tell anyone she'd had advance warning. Poor kid!
It makes me wonder how many other families got told a few days in advance by visiting soldiers saying "don't tell anyone, but...".
My grandmother and her sister grew up in Kidderminster and they used to talk to the many Canadians stationed not far from them.
Then a few days before the invasion they all disappeared and everyone guessed they had gone to the coast to embark.
It must have been the same for many Brits one day there are troops everywhere next day they’ve gone.
It’s amazing how good the double cross system worked to keep the secret from the Nazis.
If Nazi spies had been free in the population and had managed to warn Hitler and be believed it could have cost thousands more lives.
@@nigeh5326 Back then it was easy to tell a local from a foreign agent. Not so much now. I wonder how it would all pan out these days. I also wonder what is happening either side of the Russia Ukraine war. There must be many strange stories yet to be told.
Thought that was Jerry Springer for a moment lol
Lol it is 😅
Quite interesting fact: Operation Mincemeat so named because it was part of a big pork pie.
I hope that’s not true!
@@Roz-y2d In Britain mincemeat has nothing to do with meat. It is a savoury mixture of currants and the like used in mince pies - which have nothing at all to do with mince. Mince being ground actual meat or, the way Stephen Fry walks.
Carrots contain kerratin which is essential for eye health.
I say old chap, get some working class chappy to do something heroic. Jolly good show 'what !".🎩
Bill Bailey’s BIGOT acronyms had me 😂😂😂
2:10 Operation Mincemeat, fantastically crafted deception mission
Swing Kids! Jazz loving young Germans in WWII
In my first year at university in the nineties we had to research the swing kids and watch the 1993 movie about them.
It was from reading about the swing kids that I first learned about the white rose resistance organisation in Germany.
A dead person phoning is awful. My husband died, and I recieved a call from his number. His company had kept the phone and phoned me on the phone
Everybody knows how "decadent" jazz is.
We will never know who the man who never was really was. He certainly was not a Welsh down and out named Glyndwr Michael who died months before the deception operation was mounted. Such a cadaver could not have convinced any pathologist that it had been recently drowned (when it hadn't been drowned at all) and was a healthy young man, irrespective of how well it had been preserved in a mortuary. In fact it is far more likely that it was one of those who drowned when HMS Dasher, an aircraft carrier, exploded in the Clyde in May 1943. The Glyndwr Michael story was concocted because the body of a supposed suicide, as Michael was, had no rights in law, whereas a serviceman who drowned serving his country had to be properly interred if possible. The corpse was probably stolen by the officers who mounted the operation and it's true identity went to the grave with them because body snatching is a serious crime (remember Burke and Hare) and they would certainly never have told anybody the truth.
The best thing you can say about AH, is that AH killed AH.
He liked dogs and wanted to increase the old age pension. Nobody is entirely evil and certainly, he was not voted for and widely admired for being evil.
Rupert is also the name of Garfield the cats Teddy bear. So now you know.
Anyone who has watched the film The Longest Day will know about the dummy parachutists and what name was given to them.
However the 'Rupert' shown in the film was nothing like the real thing. Hollywood going over the top as usual.
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hitler had the mustache because the extended bits got stuck outside his helmet during a mustard gas raid when he was a soldier in WW1, they got burned and he had to cut them off
My great-uncle did not commit suicide.
The Hitler tree in Norfolk died and is just a stump now
But does it have babies ? Babies that nobody knows about that are growing, growing, growing.
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it wasn't really jazz the nazi's didn't like it was swing music they outlawed
I am interested. Do you have some evidence for your assertion about it being swing music ?
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Operation mincemeat
Re: Hitler's broom handle mustache: there's a theory that while front line German soldiers in World War One trimmed their mustaches to fit into gas masks without breaking the seal, Hitler adopted the style in 1919 as a form of stolen valor. He had not served on the front lines, but wanted to adopt the style that many who had served there wore, so that he could claim risk he never took and danger he never suffered, to increase his prestige as a veteran.
I think you will find that Hitler not only served in the frontline area but was gassed and or wounded and was in hospital when the armistice came in to affect, and was reputed to have cried bitterly at the thought Germany had lost
I rember Fry asking what percentage of R.A.F pilots in WW2 went to public schools. The answer was (surprisingly) small, but i couldn't help noticing that 100% of the guests went to public school. So much for social equality!
The rate of attrition was such that the RAF were taking anyone who had any aptitude to fly, and in some cases less than 10 hours training in a Hurricane or Spitfire, were sent up against the Luftwaffe. Schooling was less important than bums in cockpits.
what a great point. I don't know what the point IS but it's a great one nonetheless
@@DaveDexterMusic The point is probably that a public school education is not necessary for the "important" jobs.
There was, a few years ago a 'Guardian list' that had all the Guardian newspaper columnists and their schools. It turns out that diversity does not include diverse education.
Not Welsh Stephen. Not Welsh
Er, and all these wars were about what?
20:55 Hogwarts, the later years.
There should be a challenge to talk about World Wars but without mentioning Germany. I bet 99% of World War historians would jump out the window. 🤣🤣
Easily done for anyone who isn't British. For those of us in Australia while we did fight on the western front in WWI it was more about Gallipoli and then WW2 it was the Pacific theatre. Both world wars had more participants then just Britain and Germany so your statement that 99% would jump out the window is false.
@@davidius74 Congratulations on being in the 1% 😂😂
They started it! 😂
@@SamuelBlack84 Hence, my challenge.
The lady saying she's a pacifist always strikes me as being utterly naive. Try telling Al Qaeda and Putin that war is wrong and see how it goes.
Absolutely, it was people going to fight wars that were able to create conditions for a sense of stability and peace. A pacifist like vegetarians see things in very simplistic terms... A or B is bad. Therefore, I'll find100 reasons why
She's actually the polar opposite of naive. How unwell is your brain that you can't tolerate someone baldly saying that killing is bad without telling yourself that she must be stupid?
If nothing else, pacifists encourage us to think about the causes of conflict and how to militate them. Not a bad thing really. Now back to fart jokes!
It’s all religion that have killed in the name of their god than any other reason.
Cos all religion believes it’s better than the others. They kil1 in the name of the religion. If we didn’t have religion, there’d be more peace.
Is that Bill Bailey's son on the right?
Lol
I mean…kind of.
So many ad breaks, unwatchable cut up so much, awful
I use Brave an AdGuard; I see no ads whatsoever.
The Man who never was was a Scot who had died of pneumonia (so lungs wet as if drowned) and who's father gave permission for his body to be used on the condition he had a proper Christian funeral -which he did - and his grave is in Spain with his real name on it.
He was from Wales His real name was Glyndwr Michael. He is buried in Huelva in southern Spain
As it happens most young folk hate jazz, it is your lot that love it because you think it is a sign of taste. Jazz is not a sign of taste. You lot have jazz snobbery
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How does the UK combat the current invasion of rubber dinghies assisted by France?
At the moment it doesn’t but hopefully after the election the next government will employ more people to process claims in the countries migrants come from and in a centre built in France. They will also increase the funding to the National Crime Agency to stop the criminal gangs making a fortune from cross channel migrants
I don't think you know what an invasion is
Whining mostly
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Shame they did no research on the man with no name. He dies from pneumonia, which laeftw after in his lungs, and asked his mother if they could use his body.
Haven't watched a second but if sandi is in this I bet it takes her under a minute to redirect the discussion to include some Danish or vaguely scandinavian "interesting point"
Where “we landed” !!!!!
25:33 - I do love this country - what a pity that people like you ruined it while manically virtue-signalling.
I'll bite - how did sandi toksvig and those like her (danish lesbians, one assumes) ruin this country?
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In the name of EVERYTHING. What has that black man done to his hair?! tied it up like a girl...
I quite miss the days when QI had actual intelligent comedians and good questions. I may be biased since I grew up watching QI with Stephen Fry, and I will admit I am not a fan of Sandy and the newer seasons.
Issy was so good on Peep show and she stinks on QI.
i think shes a good actor but nothing else
Being able to read a script and play pretend is no measure of wit.
Recorded laughter crap
apart from the live audience yeah maybe.
@@TheEthanEdge Live audience but it will still be mixed and enhanced. Not crap though.
Why are there no subtitles for the deaf? Discrimination much?
Say what?
Calling Jazz music is an insult to actual music. Its just noise.
I USED to like fry !!!! Not anymore
Go on then, you want to tell why. Go on, tell us why you do not like him anymore.
I USED to like you !!!! Not anymore
@@ClaudeSac great name! dutch much?
@@theorenhobart Thanks! And yes. Dutch much. 😁
do you want to tell us where he touched you?
Why do you allow alcohol ads to children.
Eh? The BBC or QI aren’t responsible for RUclips’s ads.
RUclips has its own policy on what ads can and can’t be shown
Operation Mincemeat: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat