@@Mavsince05explain pls. Is he a world class player or not? If he is what's overrated part? If he isn't a world class player have a good day boy. We love you anyway
@ world class striker not player and kinda overrated when ppl were putting him in conversations as being the best player in the world with Vinny and mbappe as they are way better footballers
@@Mavsince05your logic is flawed. It’s like saying Neuer is a world class GK but not a world class footballer. If you’re world class in your position then you’re world class.
@@mymemories925 we got more PL tho , Mate u can keep ur " popular trophy " and we gonna keep our Treble + 4 Row 😏 . Being popular don't mean anything blud manutd is popular but they are absolute A$$ regardless.
@@jw831 That's precisely the point why he's overrated. For the attention and credit that Haaland gets you expect him to be a total dominating machine, an all round freak, but he simply is not. He depends a lot on service and when you silence Haaland he really really suffers and contributes nothing. This was evident ever since he came into Man City in 2023 in his UCL winning run and this weakness carried over all these past years till current 2025. Isak is a more valuable player cuz he can score, create, dribble, you name it. Final point is, if he really isn't overrated why did he have a goal drought for THIS long when Man City needed him most? If you ain't scoring, atleast contribute something, but he isn't. Haaland is world class but you can be wold class AND overrated at the same time
Buvy saying prime city would beat prime Chelsea 5-0 in a ucl final is ridiculous when prime city couldn’t even beat Chelsea with havertz and Werner up top, drogba would’ve caught a case in that fixture
Prime city are the treble winners or centurions. This comment is ironic considering prime chelsea in 04/05 couldn’t win a ucl either and the only team they lost to that in the league was city
@ he is not the best player in the world he is the Best striker in the world, Greatest goalscorer itw!!! he is literally about to win third golden boot in a row, that alone puts him in premier hall of fame, no one has ever done that, not shocking though it’s haaaland he does things that are unheard of thats why he broke the record in his first season
We've seen teams come close to getting 100 points a few times now, (Chelsea 95, Liverpool 99, City 98) but who has come the closest to only conceding 15 goals?
@ I think 100 points is more doable than conceding 15 goals in the entire season. After 22 games this season Liverpool who are currently top have already conceded 22
also we should factor in teams before didnt need to get 100 points, squads back then were smaller and would play first team in cups, these days (and especially city squad) squads are so big and they dont play 1st teams outside the premier league rlly (& important ucl games) so they didnt need to go the extra mile in every single game like they do today. doesnt mean their first team or in 1 game or over 2 legs the tram with more points is better though it was just a different time of football where teams approached the league differently.
@@قرفص drogba scored in every single final lol. Ronaldo is the 2nd greatest player ever but for chelsea drogba in a final was literally a guaranteed goal for over a decade
@ lol skill doesn’t need numbers look haaland in 2021-22 haaland have more assists than most of prem mid even on odegaard can we say haaland have better passing than them? clearly no haaland is just monster attacker and unselfish player why he have more assists than them
The "anyone could score for City" argument is garbage. Haaland scored 36 goals in 35 league games in 22-23. in 2019-20 Aguero got 16. And the year before that he got 21. And the year before that he got 21 again. And the year before that he got 20. And with the same manager and basically the same team, in fact I would argue that Aguero has played in better Man city sides than Haaland. He was part of those insane teams that were getting 100 points and 98 points. And we can all agree that he's one of the best Premier League players ever so where are his 30+ goal seasons? The most he ever got was 26. Haaland got 27 last season and people were saying he was having a rubbish year. That's how insanely good Haaland is.
@@bartderuiter3509 first of all smartpants it was not me who brought it up so don't blame me for you daddy's divorce, secondly there are not rules when it comes to banter so either don't banter others or have to guts to take one
All these people calling haaland overrated if your team doesn't have a good finisher you will beg for player half the quality of haaland to join your team e
@@nyc_chelsea3761UCL and PL are two different things, you don’t have to be the best team to win the UCL but you have to be the best team to win the PL and Chelsea are no where near that
@Paul_CTIDwhat do u mean you dont have to be the best team to win the ucl? Thats a ridiculous statement…. Only the best teams win the ucl because it’s the toughest competition to win. What you mean is that chelsea has to maintain consistency to win the league, which doesnt seem possible yet, i agree… however in the next 5 years its COMPLETELY possible for chelsea to win the league. They already started this season better than projected…. It should only get better from here on out, its the teams first year playing together so obviously they have to find cohesion first…. Cant just count out chelsea because you assume it wont happen.
@@nyc_chelsea3761 City were the best team in 2021 but lost, Liverpool were the best team in 2022 but lost, Real Madrid scored two goals because of Liverpool mistakes in 2018, athletic outclassed Real Madrid for 94 minutes before conceding a last minute equalizer in 2014, 2012 Chelsea won by PURE luck, 2005 Liverpool 3-0 down to the best Milan side in the 2000s and won on pens, I could go on
I mean i also dont think chelsea is gonna win a treble in 5 years but none of us know for sure. It also sounded absurd when chelsea fans said they’d win the UCL in 2021
The important thing about Haaland to know is the team he joined. City were PL title winners, semi-finalist in CL, and semi-finalists in the FA Cup. Haaland joined already succesful team. City actually scored 15 MORE goals the season BEFORe they signed Haaland. Pep just adjusted the strategy of "who scores goals". Haaland helped them get the CL title, but let's not act like they weren't in the finals every other year and choked. I'd argue Rodri was more integral to the CL title than Haaland.look how city fair without rodri this season. NOT EVEN top 4.
Do you really think that a Club that has offered Haaland a 9,5 year contract and that has spent 200m in January are guilty of anything? A club that would be guilty of "cheating." wouldn`t act as boldly in the transfer market i`m not a City fan, but it seems that a lot of rival fans would rather call City cheaters then demand more from the clubs that they supposedly support.
Buvey is sat here talking about all this stuff man city did that prime Chelsea couldn't do, mind you that team is facing 115 charges for breaking rules and regulations to win those titles, and records. Prime Chelsea would easily slap up those man city teams, and it's just a fact. We're talking about a team in one of their prime seasons, that made a 3-1 comeback against one of the best Napoli teams, beat prime Barcelona with a man down, then to top it all off, beat prime Bayern Munich Munich in the UCL final, and all while playing the final in their backyard. Versus a team that didn't win European trophy until they broke ffp rules. Oil club, and will never be remembered as a historical team.
Making outrageous statements like a 9-year old would score goals playing for Man City and that Chelsea won’t win a treble for at least another 100 years.. would happened to insightful and factual debates?
It would be easy to watch haaland this season and say he’s overrated but the fact he’s only a couple goals behind salah in the league says it all, we’re so used to him scoring more goals than games played that because he’s slightly behind that now people are mocking him
as a Liverpool fan Haalands not over rated. The goal numbers speak for themselves, and from what i see everyone highly rates his goal getting attributes but concedes that the rest of his game is not to the same level. I dont see people calling him an incredible overall player but an incredible goalscorer, which he clearly is despite recent form. Truly insane numbers. He's not Ronaldo or Messi esque and never will be. Buvey's right,
People won’t call haaland overrated until other people will start saying he’s better than their favorites, now that haaland is staying for another 9 years he will most likely score 300+ prem goals, people will use that to say he’s better than someone like Henry or Rooney and that’s when we will find out if he’s overrated or not
In fairness, you have to know a lot about football to understand how overrated Haaland is as a footballer and not everyone knows much. They just see things at face value.
As a Chelsea fan I don't mind losing every game to City from today I'll always remember when it mattered most we won with a team with literally no one in the CL final will never forget that day where I was trolled before the finals and then after the finals both me and aguero were in tears ,very very different emotions 😌
The Chelsea fan failed to bring up that the Chelsea 04/05 team were 1 contentious penalty away from being invincible too and retained the title the following season.
Why has everyone forgotten how brutal haaland was for dortmund - he is not just a penalty box striker in the right place at the right time. He was devastating in transition, he has just had to adapt his game to the premier league and to pep
People tend to forget how good Haaland actually is throughout his career he has literally bodied players like ramos, saliba, ruben dias so that should tell you he is not a one dimentional player and is a good footballer but city's season as a whole is throwing everybody off.
@@jamespalmer8239 @senpaiknight2247 why not aguero? Aguero won more, scored more goals, has a better goal/game ratio and played more games.. Why is it 'dumb' to think aguero could be better??? It's a subjective matter and anyone has an opinion.
He deserved to be in the top 2 in the 2023 ballon d'or though. Who else would be in contention if not for him? He scored the most goals in the prem and broke the record. He scored the most goals in europe as well, although he didn't score in the semis and finals. He still won the treble. The revisionism is bad in football and it shows the fans are so fickle.
@@Hamzathefirst Can’t be the best performing player if your ceiling isn’t that high. If we’re truthful, the Bdr is awarded as a mix of ‘best player in the world’ vs ‘best season in the world’ and it’s completely up to the interpretation of the voter. Vini almost certainly had a ‘better season’ than Rodri but Rodri won it as he is the better player.
Haaland isn`t overrated, Haaland is underrated and Haaland should have won that ballon d`or ahead of Messi Ballon d`or isn`t about the being the best technical player in the world
Letting Palmer go is a clear mistake because within months he went on to shine. Those other guys needed more time to develop but Palmer was a star right away.
I'm an Arsenal fan and prime chelsea absolutely bully tf out of prime city. It's literally men vs boys Drogba would rag doll stones and diaz. Essien would put KDB in the nastiest headlock you've ever seen. Terry scoring every set piece etc
As an Arsenal fan they are right Aguero is a better striker than Henry because Henry was never a conventional #9. He was nowhere near as good as Henry as a player though but as a striker in a specific role yes
Haaland is a bit overrated as an overall footballer but as a pure striker he’s not. Haaland without service is barely seen in a game. Like for example another striker like Kane is a better footballer than Haaland
I love that Buvey had to justify Haaland being "better" than Isak by mentioning a quarter final goal, reason being is in the big games he proper disappears!
Nobody cared how many goals Henry or R9 scored when talking about how good they were. Now it’s all about G/A no matter how technically brilliant (or rubbish) strikers are.
big game player? Gerrard is the ONLY player in history to score in the FA cup Final, League Cup Final, Uefa Cup final and Champions League final, and of course won each time that happened, credit where due, that's ridiculous, and from midfield too
"Haaland is overrated" is said by fans who want Haaland to play the way the want. The guy is a striker, he will never be your ball playing kind of player. Saying Haaland is overrated is saying you are blind. Because even if you are an hater, you can't be that deluded. Come on!
Haaland might go down as the greatest goal scorer in football history (will be hard to surpass messi and ronaldo ofcourse) but even if he does he won’t be known as the best player by anyone it’s that simple, there’s different metrics for things
Haaland has done it everywhere in any team, and he's not protected by City system. The system doesn't play his strengths and he's still on his way to win the Golden Boot three in a row.
Anyone that says they could score or that their nobody son could knows nothing. They underestimate how hard it is, they would not even be in position because they would get marked out of the game
tbh 04-05 chelsea was better than centurions cuz nearly every tight title race got both teams near 100 points chelsea literally kept a clean sheet for like 3 months straight during 04-05
People calling Halland overrated needs to start watching real football. Watch it with your head not just goals and tackles and mistakes. Watch it like a coach/manager. Calling halland overrated is a disgrace.
Chelsea have two Trebles Men team: UEFA treble of Champions League , Europa League and Cup Winners Cup (One of five teams to have won all three UEFA titles and to have completed club football alongside The Biggest clubs of England Germany Italy and Holland in being Manchester United Juventus Bayern Munich and Ajax Amsterdam respectively) Women’s team: Domestic treble of WSL Fa Cup and Continental Km
Can confirm SPORTbible will still be here in 2056.... 7:34 👀
“Haaland’s worldclass but he’s overrated” get this guy out of here man 😂😂😂
Those two things can be true
@@Mavsince05explain pls. Is he a world class player or not? If he is what's overrated part? If he isn't a world class player have a good day boy. We love you anyway
@ world class striker not player and kinda overrated when ppl were putting him in conversations as being the best player in the world with Vinny and mbappe as they are way better footballers
@@masterchief1520 He's world class but many rate him as legendary, which he is not
@@Mavsince05your logic is flawed. It’s like saying Neuer is a world class GK but not a world class footballer. If you’re world class in your position then you’re world class.
Finally other Chelsea fans than Rory
Trust me Chelsea is way more popular than man city will ever be in Britain 😂
@@mymemories925outside of Britain too
@@mymemories925 we got more PL tho , Mate u can keep ur " popular trophy " and we gonna keep our Treble + 4 Row 😏 . Being popular don't mean anything blud manutd is popular but they are absolute A$$ regardless.
Yeah but he didn't represent us well. We don't think majority of what this guy is saying.
@@mymemories925 if we get the same City domination for the next 10 years then City will have the bigger fan base.
A Chelsea fan that watches Jackson every week claims that Haaland is overrated
😂😂😂
This Chelsea rep is an absolute joke
I know. I rather have Rory doing this. He is the most composed, eloquent speaker of our fanbase
Savage Dan is the man mate. You’ll learn 😂
But the city rep is not a city fan from boyhood? Which one is more embarrassing 😂
those who don’t understand dan can stay on them sides, the guys got ball knowledge
Alright tego mate
Basically they agreed that they hate Arsenal😂😂
Arsenals a bigger club then the both of them still 🏆
@@livinginlondon6122 Well they're not anymore
@@livinginlondon6122Show me Arsenal’s UCL 😂
@@pabloteniente3060Man City and Chelsea bought there’s though 🤣🤣
@@livinginlondon6122 Like Arsenal doesn’t have money it’s oil season buddy 😂
As a Chelsea fan , I dont claim him
I back this
Because he's sensible?
@@Aenigmakil sensible 😂
@@Aenigmakil sensible??? winning the quad in the next 5 years hahaha
@@AenigmakilMaybe deluded 😂
he said Isak is better than Haaland is he mad?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isak's prime is Haaland's average year 😂
Right now he is, yep.
@@harryqadeerqadeer8212Haaland in his worst year still has more goals😗
Enjoyed this thanks for having me on 😂 (Haaland isnt overrated)
as a footballer he is overrated as a goal hanging goal scorer he is top tier
@Cs7xx He is paid to score goals, not to be a complete footballer
@Cs7xxhow is he overrated as a footballer when everyone trashes his footballing ability?
@@jw831 That's precisely the point why he's overrated. For the attention and credit that Haaland gets you expect him to be a total dominating machine, an all round freak, but he simply is not. He depends a lot on service and when you silence Haaland he really really suffers and contributes nothing. This was evident ever since he came into Man City in 2023 in his UCL winning run and this weakness carried over all these past years till current 2025. Isak is a more valuable player cuz he can score, create, dribble, you name it. Final point is, if he really isn't overrated why did he have a goal drought for THIS long when Man City needed him most? If you ain't scoring, atleast contribute something, but he isn't. Haaland is world class but you can be wold class AND overrated at the same time
All I hear is people slagging Haaland off 💯 who rates him to be overrated is a weird one I reckon hes justified his abilities already
Buvy saying prime city would beat prime Chelsea 5-0 in a ucl final is ridiculous when prime city couldn’t even beat Chelsea with havertz and Werner up top, drogba would’ve caught a case in that fixture
Prime city are the treble winners or centurions. This comment is ironic considering prime chelsea in 04/05 couldn’t win a ucl either and the only team they lost to that in the league was city
@@wimwoler The best team ever in the league will never ever break the 15 ga... Ever. Shut tf up man
That prime chelsea team couldn't beat city with Sun Jihai and Danny Mills in defence btw
@@CaspaJaspax The only game we lost btw. Remind me how many the best city team lost?? :) :) SHUT UP!!!
Didn't lose any game that mattered probably why we won the treble.
Anyone who thinks haaland is overrated knows nothing about football.😂😂😂😂😂😂
absolutely nothing..
THey can talk about "this city side" but what about the UCL record at BVB and Salzburg 😂
@@Akeem-uk6pl they pretend it dont exist
He is,he can't dribble,create chances and link up at high level,he can't be the best player in the world
@@StevovoMakgeng These people don`t watch or understand football, they just repeat Twitter narratives that doesn`t have a basis in reality
@ he is not the best player in the world he is the Best striker in the world, Greatest goalscorer itw!!! he is literally about to win third golden boot in a row, that alone puts him in premier hall of fame, no one has ever done that, not shocking though it’s haaaland he does things that are unheard of thats why he broke the record in his first season
We've seen teams come close to getting 100 points a few times now, (Chelsea 95, Liverpool 99, City 98) but who has come the closest to only conceding 15 goals?
100 pts guaranteed win. You just said nobody else got 100 pts not even prime city did it twice . They won
Arsenal. We conceded 17 goals in 98/99 and did not win the league.
@ I think 100 points is more doable than conceding 15 goals in the entire season. After 22 games this season Liverpool who are currently top have already conceded 22
also we should factor in teams before didnt need to get 100 points, squads back then were smaller and would play first team in cups, these days (and especially city squad) squads are so big and they dont play 1st teams outside the premier league rlly (& important ucl games) so they didnt need to go the extra mile in every single game like they do today. doesnt mean their first team or in 1 game or over 2 legs the tram with more points is better though it was just a different time of football where teams approached the league differently.
Man the quality available when buvey has the most football knowledge 🤣
I agree drogba is a big game player but saying he is more than Ronaldo is shocking
He is mate
@danielmcgrath680 you’re deluded 😂😂😂😂😂
@@قرفص drogba scored in every single final lol. Ronaldo is the 2nd greatest player ever but for chelsea drogba in a final was literally a guaranteed goal for over a decade
Them saying Aguero better than Henry shows you when they start watching football.
he is a better striker than henry, lets be honest mate
I have been watching for more than 25 years and I prefer Aguero. It’s about preference it’s not that far
if we talking accomplishing something henry is better but if we talking as a player i think aguero can bring more than tt
@@sadboy-vl6odyeah sure, Aguero can bring more than Henry who has the Prem most assist 20 as a STRiKER😐
@ lol skill doesn’t need numbers look haaland in 2021-22 haaland have more assists than most of prem mid even on odegaard can we say haaland have better passing than them? clearly no haaland is just monster attacker and unselfish player why he have more assists than them
Better than henry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The "anyone could score for City" argument is garbage. Haaland scored 36 goals in 35 league games in 22-23. in 2019-20 Aguero got 16. And the year before that he got 21. And the year before that he got 21 again. And the year before that he got 20. And with the same manager and basically the same team, in fact I would argue that Aguero has played in better Man city sides than Haaland. He was part of those insane teams that were getting 100 points and 98 points. And we can all agree that he's one of the best Premier League players ever so where are his 30+ goal seasons? The most he ever got was 26. Haaland got 27 last season and people were saying he was having a rubbish year. That's how insanely good Haaland is.
anyone who thinks Henry is not the best striker the Premier League has ever seen knows nothing about football
he's bald, not arsed what he's done if he's bald he's rubbish then
As a west ham I couldn’t agree more. He was the pinnacle
He's not, Alan Shearer is...
Chris wood exists mate
@@azcukfan8068Shearer was a better goalscorer, not a better striker
Ik it’s all banter. “Your manager just got divorced” Makes me wonder how low people like to go
and isnt that a fact that he did got divorced??? Try to not be that soft buddy
@@moorishwarrior341But is it a fact to bring up during a football argument? Try not to be that dumb buddy
@@bartderuiter3509 first of all smartpants it was not me who brought it up so don't blame me for you daddy's divorce, secondly there are not rules when it comes to banter so either don't banter others or have to guts to take one
@@moorishwarrior341 Or don’t be as dumb as you are. That’s also an option. Not for you ofcourse, but for smart people.
@@moorishwarrior341 There is another rule though. And that’s the rule of you sh*tting up after realizing you’re too dumb to speak.
Can only assume he sunk 12 other pints claiming Aguero was better than Henry
Yh he must have been on something ICL 😂😂
Aguero did more for city tho lmao. Better stats too. I guess that didn't factor in at all. 👋🏼
Pardon my bias - but I think there's an argument based on numbers.
@@masterchief1520 more for City?
@AlmightyChubb a footballer isn't just about numbers. That's the issue with fans who don't remember these players actually playing
Isak better striker than Halaand comon what is this😂🤦🏻♂️
Chelsea fans criticizing Pep for letting Palmer go as if Mourinho didn't let Salah, KDB, Ozil go😭
brotha deffo an Arsenal fan, had to sneak in Ozil and thought we wouldnt notice. What did Ozil win win Arsen FC?
When did Ozil play for Chelsea?🙄
Ozil left under Carlo Ancelotti
@@salmaankhan7 are you serious?…what was Özil at Chelsea?
@@ybntwig8080 the guy above mentioned Mourinho letting Salah, KDB and Ozil, was just correcting him that Mourinho never got rid of Ozil
All these people calling haaland overrated if your team doesn't have a good finisher you will beg for player half the quality of haaland to join your team e
I’m a Liverpool fan, but got to admit I really like Buvey.
The “who with” clap back at 1:38 was fantastic 🤣
Buvey’s right: Chelsea are not winning the league this decade, and I’m a Chelsea fan.
They said the same about us winning the champions league in 2012 and 2021 … chelsea feeds off the negativity.
@@nyc_chelsea3761UCL and PL are two different things, you don’t have to be the best team to win the UCL but you have to be the best team to win the PL and Chelsea are no where near that
@Paul_CTIDwhat do u mean you dont have to be the best team to win the ucl? Thats a ridiculous statement…. Only the best teams win the ucl because it’s the toughest competition to win.
What you mean is that chelsea has to maintain consistency to win the league, which doesnt seem possible yet, i agree… however in the next 5 years its COMPLETELY possible for chelsea to win the league. They already started this season better than projected…. It should only get better from here on out, its the teams first year playing together so obviously they have to find cohesion first…. Cant just count out chelsea because you assume it wont happen.
@@nyc_chelsea3761 City were the best team in 2021 but lost, Liverpool were the best team in 2022 but lost, Real Madrid scored two goals because of Liverpool mistakes in 2018, athletic outclassed Real Madrid for 94 minutes before conceding a last minute equalizer in 2014, 2012 Chelsea won by PURE luck, 2005 Liverpool 3-0 down to the best Milan side in the 2000s and won on pens, I could go on
@Paul_CTIDyes but at the end winning trophies makes you the best,that's why madrid are the best not because of their football style
Haaland is not overrated, and YEEEESSS Buvey has been supporting City since 2013!!
I mean i also dont think chelsea is gonna win a treble in 5 years but none of us know for sure. It also sounded absurd when chelsea fans said they’d win the UCL in 2021
I still remember the scenes when this guy won the CL for chelsea in 2012🔥
Yeah he won in twice, I heard. I’ve watched both of those finals, didn’t notice him.
The important thing about Haaland to know is the team he joined. City were PL title winners, semi-finalist in CL, and semi-finalists in the FA Cup. Haaland joined already succesful team.
City actually scored 15 MORE goals the season BEFORe they signed Haaland. Pep just adjusted the strategy of "who scores goals". Haaland helped them get the CL title, but let's not act like they weren't in the finals every other year and choked.
I'd argue Rodri was more integral to the CL title than Haaland.look how city fair without rodri this season. NOT EVEN top 4.
Now top 4 without rodri
Are all Chelsea fans this delusional ?
13:00 Chelsea’s 04/05 team will smash City’s centurions
It'd be a great game, neither 'smash' the other ffs. And btw, the only team to beat that chelsea team that season...was city haha
This man is a more confident chelsea fan than I am
I'm a Chelsea since the days of Gullit. This Chelsea fan is an embarrassment. Completely delusional.
haaland isn't overrated he's a baller
Shoutout savage dan any filthyfellas fans? Also tego is bald
7:06 "a rubbish keeper, you can't defend"... Is Buvey not supposed to be defending City?
If city get found guilty of the charges then there treble and everything they’ve won in recent years will mean nothing.
Nah its already done. Liverpool and United aren't gonna have a parade 5 years after the fact are they? Just gotta get over it man
@@hyywe240 No obviously not but it will always be regarded as cheating and will be meaningless if they are to be found guilty
Do you really think that a Club that has offered Haaland a 9,5 year contract
and that has spent 200m in January are guilty of anything?
A club that would be guilty of "cheating." wouldn`t act as boldly in the transfer market
i`m not a City fan, but it seems that a lot of rival fans would rather call City cheaters then demand more from the clubs that they supposedly support.
Chelsea fan talking about charges btw 😂😂
@Paul_CTID we have 0 charges and have never cheated lmao
Deluded typical Chelshit fan 😂
As a Chelsea fan these questions are rough 😮💨
Buvey is sat here talking about all this stuff man city did that prime Chelsea couldn't do, mind you that team is facing 115 charges for breaking rules and regulations to win those titles, and records. Prime Chelsea would easily slap up those man city teams, and it's just a fact. We're talking about a team in one of their prime seasons, that made a 3-1 comeback against one of the best Napoli teams, beat prime Barcelona with a man down, then to top it all off, beat prime Bayern Munich Munich in the UCL final, and all while playing the final in their backyard. Versus a team that didn't win European trophy until they broke ffp rules. Oil club, and will never be remembered as a historical team.
Chelsea never won a thing before the Russians bought them?
lol Chelsea just as bad as City under Abramovich and recently sold hotels to themselves to avoid sanctions.
Making outrageous statements like a 9-year old would score goals playing for Man City and that Chelsea won’t win a treble for at least another 100 years.. would happened to insightful and factual debates?
It would be easy to watch haaland this season and say he’s overrated but the fact he’s only a couple goals behind salah in the league says it all, we’re so used to him scoring more goals than games played that because he’s slightly behind that now people are mocking him
Bout time they got Savage on.
No team has ever defended 4 in a row. While also including a treble cups 🍶
United fan here and Haaland is on course to become the Greatest Epl striker!
He will sit on the same table as Suarez, Henry, Drogba & Rooney
mate why would anyone sit on a table bit odd
It’s 100% harder to stop the goals for a span of a season. That 15 goal record is ridiculous.
Dan the Chelsea fan is totally DELUDED!
Finally a reasonable sensible debate with two people who both understand football
as a Liverpool fan Haalands not over rated. The goal numbers speak for themselves, and from what i see everyone highly rates his goal getting attributes but concedes that the rest of his game is not to the same level. I dont see people calling him an incredible overall player but an incredible goalscorer, which he clearly is despite recent form. Truly insane numbers. He's not Ronaldo or Messi esque and never will be. Buvey's right,
People won’t call haaland overrated until other people will start saying he’s better than their favorites, now that haaland is staying for another 9 years he will most likely score 300+ prem goals, people will use that to say he’s better than someone like Henry or Rooney and that’s when we will find out if he’s overrated or not
The fact that the other lad's defense was WE'RE KIDS!!! Sums it all up
In fairness, you have to know a lot about football to understand how overrated Haaland is as a footballer and not everyone knows much. They just see things at face value.
As a Chelsea fan I don't mind losing every game to City from today
I'll always remember when it mattered most we won with a team with literally no one in the CL final will never forget that day where I was trolled before the finals and then after the finals both me and aguero were in tears ,very very different emotions 😌
“With literally no one” average Indian 😂😂😂😂 kante rudiger is no one 💀
Also this idea that Haaland doesn't link up play is just made worse that he makes excellent passes to people who then miss.
The Chelsea fan failed to bring up that the Chelsea 04/05 team were 1 contentious penalty away from being invincible too and retained the title the following season.
buvey is a legend .
Why has everyone forgotten how brutal haaland was for dortmund - he is not just a penalty box striker in the right place at the right time. He was devastating in transition, he has just had to adapt his game to the premier league and to pep
Poetic that haaland scored on this bums club hahahahah
Apart from the Haaland question (where he was obviously being a bit disingenuous on a trolling level with the son comment), class video from the two 👏
People tend to forget how good Haaland actually is throughout his career he has literally bodied players like ramos, saliba, ruben dias so that should tell you he is not a one dimentional player and is a good footballer but city's season as a whole is throwing everybody off.
aguero better than henry how old is this guy ? 😂
@@jamespalmer8239 @senpaiknight2247 why not aguero? Aguero won more, scored more goals, has a better goal/game ratio and played more games.. Why is it 'dumb' to think aguero could be better??? It's a subjective matter and anyone has an opinion.
I know right. 🤣
these aesthetic merchants. hipsters trying to be cool. Ehrling is NOT over rated, Buvey is correct, he is rated correctly.
Haaland is definitely overrated. He had Balon Do’r shouts ffs, nowhere near the best player on the planet.
Ballondor isn’t given to the best player, it’s given to the best performing player so no he’s not overrated
He deserved to be in the top 2 in the 2023 ballon d'or though. Who else would be in contention if not for him? He scored the most goals in the prem and broke the record. He scored the most goals in europe as well, although he didn't score in the semis and finals. He still won the treble. The revisionism is bad in football and it shows the fans are so fickle.
@@Hamzathefirst Can’t be the best performing player if your ceiling isn’t that high.
If we’re truthful, the Bdr is awarded as a mix of ‘best player in the world’ vs ‘best season in the world’ and it’s completely up to the interpretation of the voter.
Vini almost certainly had a ‘better season’ than Rodri but Rodri won it as he is the better player.
@@jacket2383 probably some of the better players in that city squad…
Haaland isn`t overrated, Haaland is underrated
and Haaland should have won that ballon d`or ahead of Messi
Ballon d`or isn`t about the being the best technical player in the world
Acl injuries normally affect explosive players the most. Rodri will be back, good as new.
Letting Palmer go is a clear mistake because within months he went on to shine. Those other guys needed more time to develop but Palmer was a star right away.
Were they instructed not to mention city getting relegated next season?
I'm an Arsenal fan and prime chelsea absolutely bully tf out of prime city. It's literally men vs boys Drogba would rag doll stones and diaz. Essien would put KDB in the nastiest headlock you've ever seen. Terry scoring every set piece etc
As an Arsenal fan they are right Aguero is a better striker than Henry because Henry was never a conventional #9. He was nowhere near as good as Henry as a player though but as a striker in a specific role yes
Haaland is a bit overrated as an overall footballer but as a pure striker he’s not. Haaland without service is barely seen in a game. Like for example another striker like Kane is a better footballer than Haaland
“The manager just got divorced” is out of pocket, red card. 😭
I love that Buvey had to justify Haaland being "better" than Isak by mentioning a quarter final goal, reason being is in the big games he proper disappears!
Nobody cared how many goals Henry or R9 scored when talking about how good they were. Now it’s all about G/A no matter how technically brilliant (or rubbish) strikers are.
big game player? Gerrard is the ONLY player in history to score in the FA cup Final, League Cup Final, Uefa Cup final and Champions League final, and of course won each time that happened, credit where due, that's ridiculous, and from midfield too
The only thing which is ridiculous from both Buvey and the Chelsea fan is putting strongly agree and strongly disagree for Aguero and Drogba
"Haaland is overrated" is said by fans who want Haaland to play the way the want.
The guy is a striker, he will never be your ball playing kind of player.
Saying Haaland is overrated is saying you are blind. Because even if you are an hater, you can't be that deluded. Come on!
Chelsea fan only thing stopping us winning a treble is the FA Cup lost 4 finals in a row and 2 league cups
9:13 Aguero better than who?
he's talking striker wise, Aguero is better than Henry as a striker.
@@flopchopslip12 I disagree
@@kevin084life 💀
kdb won poty in wolfsburg over robben, ribery, and lewa...
If he was doing more of the ball I believe he would have been more rated still the best striker in the league glad he is from Norway and plays for us
Who ever thinks Haaland is overrated is clueless and shouldn't ever give any opinion on football in life.
And the one team to stop Chelsea going invincible in that season.........city
De bruyne in his first season with City played with Aguero while Palmer plays with Jackson lol
"I'm not even a stat man. I don't even like bikinis." 😂😂😂 Mad sentences that is 😂
Haaland might go down as the greatest goal scorer in football history (will be hard to surpass messi and ronaldo ofcourse) but even if he does he won’t be known as the best player by anyone it’s that simple, there’s different metrics for things
How can someone say Haaland is world class then, in the next breath, say he's overrated? What a clown
The manager's got divorced 💀
“I won a champions league in 2012 and then I won it again” 😅😂
Haaland has done it everywhere in any team, and he's not protected by City system. The system doesn't play his strengths and he's still on his way to win the Golden Boot three in a row.
Anyone that says they could score or that their nobody son could knows nothing. They underestimate how hard it is, they would not even be in position because they would get marked out of the game
10;25 credit where due Cities centurion side, might possibly be the best English Champions of all time, as much as I wish it were not the case
When you have savage Dan on you know it’s gonna be funny af
Guy said Chelsea are going to win a treble in the next 5 years 😂
The last question is the definition of " unmovable object meeting an unstoppable force "😐
tbh 04-05 chelsea was better than centurions cuz nearly every tight title race got both teams near 100 points chelsea literally kept a clean sheet for like 3 months straight during 04-05
they also nearly went invincible 1 loss
@@IsmaeelUzzaman against who
People calling Halland overrated needs to start watching real football. Watch it with your head not just goals and tackles and mistakes. Watch it like a coach/manager. Calling halland overrated is a disgrace.
04/05 is also a penalty away from being invincible 💀
@McKola Hey Ad, we finally got the Buvey/Savage Dan face-off! You predicted it a year ago.
Chelsea have two Trebles
Men team: UEFA treble of Champions League , Europa League and Cup Winners Cup (One of five teams to have won all three UEFA titles and to have completed club football alongside The Biggest clubs of England Germany Italy and Holland in being Manchester United Juventus Bayern Munich and Ajax Amsterdam respectively)
Women’s team: Domestic treble of WSL Fa Cup and Continental Km
That Chelsea guy is knocking me sick, I wouldn’t be surprised if Chelsea fans don’t claim him
Anyone who argues the ‘my whatever can get 10 goals’ is an absolutely idiotic angle to approach a discussion from