Was This A Mistake? Trying to Start Our 70 Yr Old Dozer With The Pup Motor

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  • @chriswright2870
    @chriswright2870 4 месяца назад +84

    On the LH side of the dozer there should be a lever to engage/disengage the clutch for the pony motor. The belt from the P.M. to the starting clutch should be tight all the time. Get that P.M bolted down with the belt tight. Then all you should have to do is throw the clutch lever to roll over the big motor.

    • @chriswright2870
      @chriswright2870 4 месяца назад +3

      I would need pictures of the LH side near the starting clutch area.

    • @MrDbowschnider
      @MrDbowschnider 4 месяца назад +22

      Spray ether while turning motor over.

    • @janice8379
      @janice8379 4 месяца назад +11

      Also, I would get a metal pan with hot charcoal under the oil pan to heat the oil will make the engine turn over faster. Let the oil warm up for about half hour then try to start it. Ether should be sprayed while it is turning over.

    • @janice8379
      @janice8379 4 месяца назад +3

      Also, make sure there aren’t any flames in the charcoal before putting it under the oil pan.

    • @arnoldromppai5395
      @arnoldromppai5395 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@janice8379 you can't get to the pan. There heavy stump plates under the machine. If you ever seen a dozer of any kind.

  • @deanhornberger
    @deanhornberger 4 месяца назад +19

    Diesel Creek has a RUclips channel that has a few videos showing the correct way to start a diesel engine with a pony motor. Scrappy Industries is another channel that deals with starting a diesel engine with a pony motor. The dozer itself although pretty old and well used looks like it’s got some good life left in it and would probably serve you well if you can figure it out.

  • @wendytatum5863
    @wendytatum5863 4 месяца назад +1

    Aspen is so happy. Typical baby full of energy. They are so happy in the woods. She is a beauty.🤗🤗🤗🤗

  • @richardwhite4277
    @richardwhite4277 4 месяца назад +6

    by spraying the starter fluid before cranking it evaporates before being sucked into intake / spray starter fluid as you are cranking and the motor will suck the start fluid into intake before it can evaporate ,,,, try it

  • @user-sp6ki8ty2j
    @user-sp6ki8ty2j 4 месяца назад +5

    I would install a fuel cut off valve on the pony motor. Look to see if you can find a decompression switch or lever on the cat. If so use it to get the rpm of the fly wheel going really fast. When it is released the energy stored in the fly wheel will help fire it up. If there is a antique or vintage equipment collector or show nearby I would suggest you pay them a visit. Most of the collectors will give you a demonstration on how to start it up properly. I can tell you a few things for certain without having the machine in front of me. Glow plugs will help. Get the engine warm as possible. Make sure you have the throttle at least at half throttle when starting the machine up. The pony motor must be secure. Only spray starter fluid when the engine is turning over. Have a wonderful day. It is a pleasure watching your channel.

  • @matthewkirichkow5279
    @matthewkirichkow5279 4 месяца назад +3

    Since you don't know how old the fuel is, drain it and put in a few gallons of fresh. The diesel fan appears to have enough revolutions to fire it. Keep the same pony motor but bolt it down and insure the belt is aligned and tight. Should fire them.

  • @pathofthebee2873
    @pathofthebee2873 4 месяца назад +3

    The throttle was all the way forward. That equals off. Pull it back half way and that thing will start right up....

  • @gcfahrlender
    @gcfahrlender 4 месяца назад +1

    I can remember as a kid in winter hearing the pony motor on the road grader running for 10 or 15 minutes before they would get the diesel engine going. That was back in the 1950's

  • @weldonwilks1938
    @weldonwilks1938 4 месяца назад +23

    You get an A for effort Greg! The old engine is probably on the edge of having enough compression to fire. Try to get the wife to spray a good amount of ether in the intake( take the intake filter off so the ether is more effective) have the wife spray it in there while you crank it.
    Good luck

    • @msmith9730
      @msmith9730 4 месяца назад

      Agree....... it was turning over enough to start the white smoke was raw fuel.........either straight in for about 30 seconds while it's turning over

  • @ihanberg
    @ihanberg 4 месяца назад +3

    Fuel in the oil indicates a leaking needle valve in the carburetor. Needs to be cleaned or replaced (probably just cleaned) drain all the oil and replace. Good luck!!

  • @jamiehicks8229
    @jamiehicks8229 4 месяца назад +4

    Oil over filled was most likely from the float bowl in the carb and overfilled the crankcase with gas...hense the reason the oil smelled like gas...change that oil out first of all and take the carb apart and clean it thoroughly...mount the gas engine securely and make a lever with a pulley on it inline with the belt so that you can pull the lever and apply the tension to the belt...I agree with other comments for the clutch lever on the other side but don't think you will be able to get the belt tension you need unless you build a frame to mount the motor and use jack bolts to get the belt tight enough

  • @peterhenderson3694
    @peterhenderson3694 4 месяца назад +2

    The design for carbs these days allows the fuel from the fuel tank to drain into the crank case when they sit for long periods. You know it would be impossible to fill the crank case with that much oil. Drain and put in new oil then install fuel shut off valve and make sure you close it off and let engine run until it shuts off after every use. Rotate pull rope assembly, bolt down the pony motor, and I believe I saw an idler tensioner lever on the opposite side. I think it would have started if it wasn’t so cold heat is your friend, try spraying either while diesel is turning over. Love that dog let us know if the shedding is crazy bad..

  • @terrellpettijohn3952
    @terrellpettijohn3952 4 месяца назад +16

    There are a couple of problems with your replacement pony motor setup. The original pony motor was designed to do a couple of things. The exhaust from the pony motor originally was routed through the intake manifold to warm up any incoming diesel fuel to the main engine. The original pony motor was also water cooled and circulated this warm water through the bigger diesel engine. Lastly, the pony motor would turn over the bigger engine through a clutch, bendix and gearbox. It looks like the new setup is only turning the original pony motor over through the original rope start pulley for the pony motor. If all of the original pony motor internal parts are still there, the new setup is having to do a lot of extra work without giving the diesel the benefits of a warm up before trying to start. In one part of your video, the smoke coming out of the diesel indicated that it was almost ready to start and only needed a shot of starting fluid. I’m guessing that the current setup is going to be a warm weather starting machine. The dozer can probably be converted to electric start by entirely removing the original pony motor and installing glow plugs for pre-combustion warm up.

    • @jeradclark
      @jeradclark 4 месяца назад +1

      This man pony motors.

    • @andreweisan9613
      @andreweisan9613 4 месяца назад

      Shouldn't there also be a compression release on the diesel motor

    • @user-kw5xo3lb7q
      @user-kw5xo3lb7q 4 месяца назад +2

      Have only seen a couple comments on here from guys that know what is going on and you are one of them. With that pulley system there is no way you will spin the pony motor over fast enough to get the main motor going. Best bet would be to get the Cat pony motor working.

    • @Raycr
      @Raycr 4 месяца назад

      Like was mentioned here, the pony warmed the coolant and the intake for the big diesel. The pony motor also had a high governor speed, they screamed!

    • @jereclements9373
      @jereclements9373 4 месяца назад

      I used to have a dozer with a pony motor set up like yours and you can get it to work ok. You were getting close in this video as evidenced by the puffs of smoke out of the exhaust. You should definitely bolt the motor down tight with the belt tight, it would help to use a centrifugal clutch type pulley, that way you can start the pony motor at an idle and then when you crank up the rpm the clutch will kick in and spin the belt. The original Caterpillar instructions say to crank the engine for up to 5 minutes before adding compression/fuel, this was to warm everything up and get oil pressure. Don't be afraid of spinning the motor over for 5 or more minutes especially in cold weather. As mentioned your set up does not warm the fuel or engine water so it is gunna take a bit before it fires.

  • @roballan4944
    @roballan4944 4 месяца назад +3

    The pony motor is making oil because fuel is leaking through the carb and into the crankcase. Just shut off the fuel after you get the dozer started.

  • @barbarapetersen6654
    @barbarapetersen6654 4 месяца назад +1

    RUclips channel Diesel Creek is all you need to learn about old heavy equipment. Matt is an expert machinery mechanic and has a vast collection

  • @user-jn9tv5by3c
    @user-jn9tv5by3c 4 месяца назад +1

    Alan Clark .A really helpful RUclips to watch is Diesel Creek, He is always buying old equipment, mostly diesels, and getting them running and, showing all the steps he takes. Some of his stuff is as old as yours. Love your vids. Cheers from U K.

  • @jerrylayton6685
    @jerrylayton6685 4 месяца назад +26

    You need to heat the intake manifold so the engine can have warm air. This helps because the engine has warm air for easier combustion.

    • @jerrypeal653
      @jerrypeal653 4 месяца назад

      Pony motor exhaust is supposed to do that is my understanding.

  • @johnbeattie5765
    @johnbeattie5765 4 месяца назад +2

    Look up " Off-griders " , ( Ambition Strikes ) . They invested in a old Bulldozer that's probably as old as yours and requires a ' Pony motor ' to start it . Happy Trails from Eastern Canada to Western Canada 🇨🇦 ✌ out

  • @rossbrown1748
    @rossbrown1748 4 месяца назад

    That puppy is adorable

  • @robertmosher722
    @robertmosher722 4 месяца назад +1

    Add a block heater. Even newer engines need help when it is cold.

  • @spankyham9607
    @spankyham9607 4 месяца назад

    She is a very sweet and pretty puppy.

  • @nemanjaristic2170
    @nemanjaristic2170 4 месяца назад +1

    As someone who follows your channel and comes from the former Yugoslavia, I was pleasantly surprised that you got a dog that is originally from this part of Europe. It is difficult for everyone to pronounce the dog's name correctly, but the most correct pronounce in English is "sharplaneenatz". That dog breed was named after the Shar mountains that separates Serbia from Macedonia. It is true that the Turkish conquerors (Ottomans) brought large sheepdogs with them when they conquered this part of Europe and that some of their dogs probably evolved here into different breed. Greg was probably right (by chance) 🙂
    Both of you are doing great work.
    Best regards.

  • @boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877
    @boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877 4 месяца назад +2

    First, bolt the Poney Motor (PM) down, making sure the engine is secured tight and the belt is also tight. As you sit in the dozer, feel down to the left where you found that lever before. That will engage the PM to turn the dozer engine over, but before all that, you need to make sure of other things.
    Check the oil dip stick to see if water has gotten in. If there are signs of water, oil will be a milky light brown colour, and the head gasket could be blown, easy fix. Look inside the oil filler cap, too, for the same sign. If the oil is black, that's good.
    Next is fuel.
    The diesel could be very old. If it is, it will smell a bit like polish. If it were me, I would drain the diesel into a container and use fresh. Don't discard the old diesel as it can still be used once the engine is running properly. You just add a little at a time to the new diesel, about half a gallon to a full tank.
    Loosen the injectors and turn the engine over. One of you should turn the engine over while the other inspects the injectors. You can do this on your own with difficulty, but as there are two of you!
    If fuel is leaking out of each injector as the engine is turning over, that's good. Tighten the injectors up.
    If no fuel is leaking, then there could be an issue with the fuel pump. At which point you need to seek help from someone who knows what they are doing. See what youtubers are in your area who know about diesel engines in particular dozers and ask them to visit you.
    Watch your video back. You will see smoke coming out of the exhaust. That, to me, tells me there is hope. What you really need is for someone to give that engine the once over, a full service if you like.
    Next up, the undercarriage.
    Check the tracks. They look OK on camera, but what about the drive sprockets? What about the track adjustment? If these need replacing, sell the dozer for repair or scrap. Get what you can for it. Take the money and run, just like the person who sold you the dozer in the first place did.
    First lesson: When buying any mechanical machine, never, ever trust what the seller tells you. They will lie. They will say anything, just to sell their piece of junk.
    Second lesson. Never buy a machine without testing it first. See it running, hear it running, and test it yourself. Try starting it, and if it won't start or there are strange grinding, crunching sounds, then don't buy it.
    Third lesson: Always take someone with you who knows what they are talking about and knows what to look out for. If they say don't buy it, then don't buy it. As the expression goes; there are plenty more fish in the sea.
    Fourth lesson: Don't buy the first machine you see. Yes, it may be a good buy. Even if your helper, the person who knows what they are doing tells you to buy it, don't! Go check out at least two other possibilities, then go for a cup of coffee and discuss your options.
    Last lesson: If possible, look further a field, up to say 100 miles away. Always have options, just in case you return and find someone who has beaten you to it.
    Oh, and I never agree to pay the asking price. Haggle a bit, just don't flash that cash. Keep it well hidden until the last moment you hand it over.
    Why am I giving you these tips? Well, that's easy because, like you guys, I learnt the hard way.
    I purchased a forklift. The seller told me it worked, that it was recently serviced but had just run out of gas. Gas as in gas, not petrol, not diesel and it was late afternoon on a Saturday.
    The engine looked like new, heck, the whole forklift looked great, exactly what I was looking for. Apart from the brand new Volvo diesel forklift sat in his workshop. That was a beauty.
    The seller agreed to deliver it on Monday because the trailer I had was steadily booked for the following week and i had to drop it off before11am Sunday.
    Monday came, and I was so excited. We had been without a forklift for almost two weeks, losing business, then, our replacement arrived.
    The guy backed up his trailer into our workshop and rolled the forklift down. I asked why it was nit running but yhe guy said the gas company were backlogged and couldn't delivervuntil Thursday.
    It moved easy with two of us giving it a push. Cash was handed over, £12,000 which was the asking price i hastily agreed too. But it didn't matter becsuse we had a new forklift. Well, new to us anyway.
    After the guy left and I put the kettle on for a mug of tea for everyone my mechanic looked puzzled and scratched his head.
    As I gave everyone their tea he asked me why I had purchased such a piece of junk? What, I asked. He said the engine is knackered and there are parts that are not even connected up.
    It was obvious that the seller had duped me. When I looked it was not the same engine! The body was the same alright, same scratches, same dent on the engine cover but definitely not the same engine.
    My mechanic did his best for three days. Connected the engine up, tryed getting the engine started but in the end we had to accept the engine was toast.
    We reluctantly purchased a replacement reconditioned engine, a diesel engine for £6,000. New hydrolic hozes all round, fittings, even the breaks were knackered so they were overhauled.
    There was some electrical work that had to be carried out and two gages replaced. Brand new diesel tank with all the ususl pipes and fittings.
    The total amount paid out just to get the forklift working right, £9,389. The total price out of pocket paid in the end was £24,768. Thats 28,784€ or $31,496 or $42,061 Canadian.
    I could have purchased an 18 month old reconditioned demonstration model Hyster forklift from the manufacturer with a 3 year guarantee for £31,400. If only I had done my research and not rushed into buying the first forklift I viewed.
    I wish you well guys.
    I learned a hard lesson, will you?

  • @elkguidenm
    @elkguidenm 4 месяца назад +6

    Hey Greg! Reach out to Matt@DieselCreek
    Him and his buddies tackle these issues a bunch.
    My experience has to let that pony turn over that diesel for 2-3 minutes before throwing the coals to it.
    Usually will start with out the Ether Bunny when everything is heated up.
    Good Luck and Happy New Year to you and yours...

  • @smarthome2660
    @smarthome2660 4 месяца назад +15

    Read the last step here before trying again.
    The pup motor is not the problem. Bolt down the pup motor so you can use the clutch to engage & disengage it. There should be a lever to allow the main engine to turn over faster by opening a valve to allow decompression. Then once it is spinning fast, close the valve. Clean the air filter as well as all fuel filters. Then bleed and prime the pump and injectors. I would add an ether injection fitting into the intake. There are factory ones, but you can make your own too. Heating the intake will also help because warm air is better than cold. Use a heat gun on the intake but try not to burn wires or get any one spot too hot. Bottom line, you need to first make sure you have compression, fuel and air. Timing of the injectors is necessary to make it run after you get it to fire. Make sure you have a way to shut it down via fuel cutoff, or air flow cutoff so it wont runaway.

    • @frankt6906
      @frankt6906 4 месяца назад

      Much better than my suggestion

    • @joachimdrewing4685
      @joachimdrewing4685 4 месяца назад

      If you use diesel fuel that was filled in summertime this might get fuzzy under winter conditions. Could you use fresh diesel with a winterizing Additive?
      Greetings Joachim

  • @stevedue4485
    @stevedue4485 4 месяца назад +12

    The pony motor would work. Needs mounted solid. Needs higher rpm and then a clutch or belt tensioner.

    • @rickdeschenes1598
      @rickdeschenes1598 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes, solid mount for the pony and a pully with with lever to tighten the belt

    • @user-od1uh1jw5e
      @user-od1uh1jw5e 4 месяца назад +3

      Check for petcocks on the cylinders to prime them

    • @jacksprat3287
      @jacksprat3287 4 месяца назад

      smaller pully on the pony motor will turn it quicker

  • @OffgridwithJayandJen
    @OffgridwithJayandJen 4 месяца назад

    Hey Greg, I felt if I was there....My extra 60 Pounds of Muscle could have gotten that pony motor working correctly. LOL ha ha.....giggle giggle. =) Congrats on the new Pup.....Cool Stuff.

  • @dustyroads834
    @dustyroads834 4 месяца назад +6

    The original PM had its exhaust plumbed into the intake manifold of the Diesel to preheat the engine It worked like a charm

  • @user-kf9fv1qj9u
    @user-kf9fv1qj9u 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video Greg and Katie

  • @bay9876
    @bay9876 4 месяца назад

    Like trying to re-animate Frankenstein. As she starts up, the mad shouting starts,"She's alive!!" Scares the crap out of the goats and chickens, but a useful tool whenever it decides to help the farm.

  • @freetosubscribersonly
    @freetosubscribersonly 4 месяца назад +2

    Matt from diesel creek on you tube knows them old cats inside out..as him very nice guy..and two people needed one to spray the ether whilst turning it over with the pony and definitely higher revs on the pony motor.

  • @izzygirl9591
    @izzygirl9591 4 месяца назад +2

    Put a block heater and an oil heater in it and plug it in hrs before you want to start it. Also get Katie to spray the either in it while cranking, it stops it from binding up. Your troubles should be over. You can keep it running on ether if you spray across it while its cranking,until it picks up the fuel. Gl

  • @jimbo16720
    @jimbo16720 4 месяца назад +11

    First off make sure to cover exhaust when not in use to keep rain out. I'd get the motor bolted down good first and the pulley size does make a difference, smaller on motor for more torque but less rpm's and larger on motor for more rpm's but less turning power. Worse thing for diesel motors is air in fuel system as far as hard starting. Suppose to be able to start pony and then engage it to turn diesel over so get the belt as tight as you can so it doesn't slip. Glow plugs help in cold weather too.

  • @THEFALCON58
    @THEFALCON58 4 месяца назад +2

    Hi, if theres a smell of gas in your oil the cab/ float is not set right,/flooding cab/.
    over full oil will past the rings and smoke out the exhaust.

  • @goatstead814
    @goatstead814 4 месяца назад

    Oh you are in for a rude awakening having a LGD! The barking, oh the barking........all night long! What a beautiful puppy. We have Great Pyrenees and oh the barking, but we know that comes with most LGDs. Can't wait to follow Aspens progress. Ours is getting up in age and need to consider what breed is next. Best of luck!!

  • @oomwat6101
    @oomwat6101 4 месяца назад +10

    My impression is that starting a lerge diesel with a pony motor, you shoud have a decompression lever on the diesel - you use the pony motor to get the diesel spinning in the decompressed state, build some oil pressure, get the fuel flowing a bit ... then dump the compression lever and let the momentum of the diesel's flywheel do the starting - not the pony motor.

  • @gmorrison1962
    @gmorrison1962 4 месяца назад

    Aspen is gonna have a huge appetite!

  • @jerrypeal653
    @jerrypeal653 4 месяца назад

    You need to check for spark , compression, possibly timing , fuel on that pony . You could strap the blue start motor with a tie down strap .

  • @OffGridWithChrisandKristie
    @OffGridWithChrisandKristie 4 месяца назад +1

    Chris wanted to agree with the comment about the clutch lever comment. As well add: you should get some heat on that motor.
    He’s a HD mechanic. That’s a good place to start.
    Hi Aspen! You’ve got a very sweet mask ❤

  • @markbrown9765
    @markbrown9765 4 месяца назад +6

    The pull start on that pony motor should be adjustable to at least get the rope/handle in the right direction. I know that doesn't do anything to get the bulldozer running but....usually you can remove a couple screws on the pull start housing then turn it and bolt it back on. Quick change that puts the "pull" direction in a convenient place.

  • @marcothehammer
    @marcothehammer 4 месяца назад

    I've heard of a 'manual' clutch before, but never one that functions even close to the one on your 'dozer. LMAO!
    That is remarkable. Whatever works! I think it's awesome! Most guys just fix cars.

  • @raygrant3155
    @raygrant3155 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish I lived closer I grew up with those old buggers. Your right you need a bigger pony the original was gear drive about 16hp so a 13 with a belt tightener lever should do it. You haven't shown the leftside of the motor for the compression release to help starting it.

  • @jim6390
    @jim6390 4 месяца назад +15

    The original designed pony motor was excellent you also could use glow plugs and a block heater ensure you have good winter fuel with gas line anti freeze that is a good dozer

    • @ronaldlincoln2935
      @ronaldlincoln2935 4 месяца назад +1

      I agree on the fuel. I have sat for hours trying to get a deisel to go and finally emptied the tank and put in fresh stuff and it turned over right away. Check your fuel first.

  • @jameschupp2230
    @jameschupp2230 4 месяца назад

    Very Very Nice Puppy Dog!!!

  • @susiemurphy1476
    @susiemurphy1476 4 месяца назад

    Beautiful pup.

  • @nevaswift3382
    @nevaswift3382 4 месяца назад

    She's a beautiful puppy

  • @james35546
    @james35546 4 месяца назад

    Clean the needle and seat in the pony motor then change the oil. Use a torch of some kind to heat the intake on the diesel motor before cranking it over.

  • @m.hammer648
    @m.hammer648 4 месяца назад

    Apply ether while cranking the engine. The way you are doing it , the ether evaporates before you crank the engine.

  • @keyper555
    @keyper555 4 месяца назад

    Hey guys, I just got this off Amazon to fill my tanks on my boat and mower, what a life saver this is, thought you might be interested, well worth the investment and takes all the work out of transfering fuel the old fashioned way. "TERA PUMP 4th Gen TRFA01 Fuel Transfer Pump with Auto-Stop for Over-fill Protection (2.4 GPM) 3 Gas Can Adapters, Long Hose, Hand Fuel Pump for E15, E85, Gas, Diesel - Never Lift Heavy Gas Cans again" I am getting to old to hold heavy cans and fill my tanks and most filler necks now are rigid and you have to push them down to release the fuel, who ever thought of that idea needs to be tared and feathered lol. Hope this helps, love your vids and homestead!!!

  • @ld5714
    @ld5714 4 месяца назад +8

    I noticed Aspen immediately in the opening footage. She is a good looking dog and will fit right in with you, all the animals and activity on the homestead. It will be intersting to see how Juniper adjusts to her size, it will be fun to watch them all playing and going on walks with you and Greg. I look forward to all the sage advice from followers enabling Greg to get the Dozer going. It will be fun to see your plans for it unfold as it becomes another useful tool on the property. Have a great week and a blessed 2024. Larry, Central Valley, Ca.

  • @georgeanderson3754
    @georgeanderson3754 4 месяца назад +23

    Use propane torch to preheat the intake manifold to facilitate starting. I would try hooking up the pony motor to the clutch. I think you will damage the pony motor putting the stress onto the pulley and engine crankshaft. Neat dog!

  • @mikesnow4836
    @mikesnow4836 4 месяца назад +2

    You need to spray starting fluid while its turning over. It was smoking so its trying to start. A magnetic engine heater on the oil pan would help as well

  • @lebushaw
    @lebushaw 4 месяца назад +1

    You NEED to cover that exhaust pipe when storing the Cat.

  • @rogerperson7159
    @rogerperson7159 4 месяца назад +1

    You need spray the starter fluid in the intake when the engine is turning over, and tighten the belt.

  • @jangross3501
    @jangross3501 4 месяца назад

    FYI - Utube keeps Un-scribing … I check every video to make sure I’m subscribed 😊😊

  • @jeffquackenbush7433
    @jeffquackenbush7433 4 месяца назад

    Put a tarp covering the engine area and put a heater in there for an hour or 2 to warm the engine up

  • @timothyvandeberg2367
    @timothyvandeberg2367 4 месяца назад +1

    You need to pull the compression release when starting the diesel

  • @loribillings3810
    @loribillings3810 4 месяца назад +3

    So Sweet Junipur has a new play mate 😊 She is one big puff ball. Love it. Welcome to the family, Aspen.

  • @suebolasevich123
    @suebolasevich123 4 месяца назад +1

    You could bolt the motor down better as there is too much slack in the belt. 😊 when you pulled back it took up the slack and the motor was spinning and it did start it. Good luck you are doing great.

  • @timrobinson1393
    @timrobinson1393 4 месяца назад +3

    You definitely need to heat the motor up whether that’s with an oil pan heat pad or one that goes in the dipstick. It may not be a bad idea to send the injectors out to get rebuilt or just buy new ones depending on the price. If you let it sit for a while, make sure the fuel system is very well bled out of any air.

  • @benthere801
    @benthere801 4 месяца назад +2

    You almost had it the last few times with the pony motor when it started smoking from the exhaust. You didn't let it go long enough. It looks to be hard to keep pressure on the pony motor to keep the belt tight? Can't you use a pry bar to make it easier on you?

  • @mariesalway91
    @mariesalway91 4 месяца назад

    watching Aspen with the zoomies is fun

  • @suelotts7177
    @suelotts7177 4 месяца назад +1

    Amazing what you can fix! Katie you know the transmission is next on the old pickup don’t you. 😮.

  • @carmenwilkins206
    @carmenwilkins206 4 месяца назад

    Aspen is beautiful... good luck on the tractor.

  • @jasoncowing9656
    @jasoncowing9656 4 месяца назад +1

    Spray starting fluid while you’re cranking it over.

  • @bobflores
    @bobflores 4 месяца назад +2

    Get a couple of fuel transfer pumps, one for gas and one for diesel. The new fuel can nozzles are crap. Guardian dogs are a great addition to a homestead. Welcome to Aspen. Thanks for the episode.

  • @user-kw5xo3lb7q
    @user-kw5xo3lb7q 4 месяца назад

    Went on RUclips to conferm my suspicions. That pony motor is a backyard DIY setup. The drivebelt is connected to the flywheel of the REAL pony motor. The Cat pony motor is watercooled so once you start it and start cranking the main engine over(fuel shut off)it will warm up the main engine making it easier to start when the fuel is turned back on. The way this is set up you are turning over the Cat pony engine AND the main engine and with that pulley system there is no way you can spin everything fast enough to get the main engine going. Get the original Cat pony engine working would make starting a lot easier.

  • @theodorebormet1780
    @theodorebormet1780 4 месяца назад +1

    the idea of a pony motor was to start in cold weather ,the factory motor would be hoked up to the exhaust manifold to pre heat the air ,let the pony motor turn the big motor over till it warms up

  • @brianweishahn9131
    @brianweishahn9131 4 месяца назад +1

    Diesel Creek channel used a hand held gas saw modified with pully and belt.

  • @johnmiley458
    @johnmiley458 4 месяца назад +1

    You defiantly need a bucket over that exhaust when not running. Also you need a way to preheat the engine especially the intake manifold. Carefully with a propane touch is a good way.

  • @jillsanto397
    @jillsanto397 4 месяца назад

    Welcome Aspen. She is beautiful!

  • @bwcok7947
    @bwcok7947 4 месяца назад

    Aspen is awesome! She will do great!

  • @bobbendt1698
    @bobbendt1698 4 месяца назад

    Back in the 70's I built an electric starter motor v belt starter for CAT pony motor. Like you pulling the motor to tighten the belt I had a car starter motor I modified on a pivot. Had a handle attached to the plate to starter motor was attached to which had a push button to activate a starter solenoid. Pull the handle to tighten the belt and push the button to spin the starter motor. Spun it fast enough to easily get the pony started. Your setup should work when you can get enough speed and starter fluid in CAT intake.

  • @ronaldclark2624
    @ronaldclark2624 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the very nice video. A high oil level in the pony could indicate water with the oil. If so be by now you have a milk shake. Sincerely hoping the Cat becomes a helpful tool for you. The house exterior looks very nice. The days are getting longer. Ron PTL USA, Next to Canada.

  • @frankt6906
    @frankt6906 4 месяца назад

    I wonder if the Cat has glo-plugs? If not maybe place a blanket over and a pan of hot coals under to try and warm the block

  • @chuckolson5825
    @chuckolson5825 4 месяца назад

    I had to find the the sight the sight is Pacific Northwest Hillbilly if you want info I would think he could help. Good luck!!

  • @oneoldmansgarage7880
    @oneoldmansgarage7880 4 месяца назад +3

    Great idea with the larger diameter pully on pony motor! It seems to be turning the engine pretty well. You might want a little bigger one if it doesn't cause to much drag on the pony motor. A couple people have already said to find a way to tighten the pony motor down with the belt tight, that would help you a lot. I noticed that you would spray the starting fluid, and then take your time trying to start it. Try spaying the starting fluid while you crank the engine. I think you will have better results. heating the intake manifold may help a little. Try to remember you are compensating for an old tired engine. I think you should fix the steering column shifter problem in the Chevy truck! Look on RUclips, there is a bunch on those.

  •  4 месяца назад +1

    Love the pup so cute anyway your motor is big enough but it isn't helping you that it's loose if you can keep the belt tight you should be able to get the pony motor going and pull your handle at the opposite side and give it the sauce 😉at same time but take of main motors air filter and then spray the sauce into engine miigbt work better if your wondering how I know old farmer been there done that many times to many😮

  • @karrolstover6773
    @karrolstover6773 4 месяца назад +1

    The float on the pony motor is probably sticking too

  • @user-zx1zy3sy1l
    @user-zx1zy3sy1l 4 месяца назад

    you need to mount motor and put a pulley with a handle on a pivot to pull so it tensions the belt

  • @pmae9010
    @pmae9010 4 месяца назад

    unbolt the starter housing on the pony engine and rotate it so the rope comes out at the tracks

  • @ShelmaBotero
    @ShelmaBotero 4 месяца назад +1

    Hello family, blessings and happy new year. Since they are puppies, these dogs are accustomed to wearing spike collars so that they can take care of their pack (the animals on the farm) and protect their lives. They are very effective.

  • @robertlusnia506
    @robertlusnia506 4 месяца назад

    Good Luck with your new puppy

  • @rayevans2052
    @rayevans2052 4 месяца назад

    You also should spray the either as you are turning over the main engine.

  • @barbscarrow7300
    @barbscarrow7300 4 месяца назад +1

    She is beautiful love her name Aspen. Aspen will become a great addition to the homestead ❤️🇨🇦

  • @jonathangriggs9123
    @jonathangriggs9123 4 месяца назад +2

    Im not an engineer however I watch Ambition Strikes who have a much larger bulldozer but have had similar issues with theirs.

  • @kristingrounds4163
    @kristingrounds4163 4 месяца назад

    Very cute puppy!!!

  • @jonno6674
    @jonno6674 4 месяца назад

    You could use a weed burger to heat the block first get it up to a decent temperature & maybe invest in the adjustable belts too

  • @richardgabel33
    @richardgabel33 4 месяца назад +1

    Not sure this will help as you have had a number of good directions but take things one step at a time especially when you really don’t know.
    Tighten the pony motor so the belts are tight, no slack. Probably now is a good time to replace the belt.
    You know the pony motor will start and run but I would replace with an electric start motor of higher power. I know the sequence is wrong, sorry.
    Go to harbor freight and get a few welding blankets to tarp the Diesel engine area. Build a fire under the engine as a block heater. If it can be fitted with a heater then that is a better choice. Get a case of starting fluid to keep on hand. Heat will liquify any gelled fuel in the lines. A thought....if you can get a tent of sufficient size get that instead of blankets and super heat inside of tent that you erect over the dozer. It will make working on it much easier. Check that you have fuel in filters and if not, fill with trans fluid for easier starting. Hope this helps and not redundant.

  • @robertn2813
    @robertn2813 4 месяца назад

    Wow , she's beautiful . She's gonna be huge also . Definitely an outside dog also . Just make sure there's no wet snow under her after she lays in the snow for a while .

  • @theburtseoni
    @theburtseoni 4 месяца назад +1

    Pony motors worked well when they were set up and adjusted properly. I have owned 2 older D-4 7U series cats, and they worked well, most of the time. But they could be cantankerous and hard to live with. That's why I recommend going with an electric start crawler dozer. A lot less headache and more time spent working then trying to get the blasted Cat to fire up!

  • @nicolepeppler6475
    @nicolepeppler6475 4 месяца назад

    At 14 weeks Aspen is huge. How big is she going to get? Dang, she is FLUFFY!!!!!

  • @christineabedini3765
    @christineabedini3765 4 месяца назад

    Yes, she is adorable and Juniper is so active. That’s good that she has another active dog to play with.

  • @jaimevoth5445
    @jaimevoth5445 4 месяца назад

    Juniper likes that Frisbee our Heeler🐕 loves ❤️ Frisbee

  • @Chris-yo4ks
    @Chris-yo4ks 4 месяца назад

    Your pony motor is close....perhaps a slightly bigger pulley on the pony side to get a faster engine turn. One thing you should first is get the pony motor mounted solid and utilize a lever to tension the belt......I'm sure the dozer has an existing setup for using the pony motor....get that working. If after that doesn't work....perhaps purchasing a larger pony motor. Changing the diesel filter, and purge the lines of old diesel fuel. If the fuel in it is not adequately treated for cold weather, it may be a bit gelled.

  • @user-hi2xj7bu1x
    @user-hi2xj7bu1x 4 месяца назад

    When push things lower is better. Lose so much power by pushing up high. Look at football. All about leverage. Also warm the starting fluid it works best warm.

  • @wadeprior5203
    @wadeprior5203 4 месяца назад +1

    good morning how are you guys doing today and I like what you guys are doing I guess you guys got a new toy to fix today all right well you guys work on that new toy and hope it works cuz you guys do definitely need it around the property text the property up better all right guys have a great day and God bless you

  • @bruceconner5156
    @bruceconner5156 4 месяца назад

    The starter ropehouseing will probably unbolt and rotate to a better pulling position.

  • @stevenh2502
    @stevenh2502 4 месяца назад

    omg cutest puppy!!!!!!!!!

  • @BarnCatAlley
    @BarnCatAlley 4 месяца назад

    At approximately 8:05 Bigfoot enters from the right side tree line in the background and walks to the left!!!!