Everything Wrong with Dragon's Dogma 2
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Dragon's Dogma 2 is a missed opportunity. It makes me sad. but thanks for watching! Optimize your dang game already.
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Love you jack, but you don’t play the game😂
You don’t have to cheese your way onto the volcanic island, there is more than 1 path to reach it. After hearing that I’ve gotta go
@@yipperdeyip yeah they disrespected me for a whole 200 hours
Will you PLEASE review Rise of the Ronin next??
No stop shilling, also giant weapons are great. Guts from Berserk would cave your skull in for that.
Mom said you can come over to my house to play as long you don't fight someone who has done the same
I had the lady elf magic archer master and the spearhand master battle for my love in battahl
You gotta oil up
Jacks closet must look crazy with the amount of random outfits and costumes he has
Jack definitely has one of those cartoon character wardrobes where he just walks in and it's all space suits, gorilla costumes, cowboy costumes, medieval costumes, police uniforms etc. Every day he plays a new character
@@MarioGoatseBro what is your pfp😭🙏
@@aguyontheinternet3530 Oh no. Mario seems to have sat on some red soda! He seems to be showing us.
It’s really getting out of hand 😂 it’s not a big closet
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the part where you have to unequip>deposit>withdraw>equip was such a step back from DD1. You can literally equip/unequip anything when managing storage in DD1, i dont even know why they didnt do that this time.
Facts, and also being able to give items to your pawn from your inventory when using that same menu
So many weird choices like that...
Yeah I didn't remember how it worked in DD1 but this is the worst part with vocation switching. I did just find you can deposit or withdraw multiple though the other day so that was cool.
Oh also how vocation buildings are separate from taverns now except for like the beginning towns. Why, just why.
@@alemswazzu another thing that pissed me off the most is the equipment slot. In DD1 we have individual clothing slot like head/arm/underarmor/armor/boot/cape, the diversity is INSANE! Why did they cut that away? merging arm/armor/underarmor into 1 is such a big L.
Its such a shame because no words can describe how i absolutely love the combat, i have never play anything like that before especially the way you fight big enemies ( i was already blown away by DD1 combat ). And the graphics and level design, man, this game is beautiful its almost remind me of Red Dead 2 enviroments.
But like you said, so many weird fucking choices like that, i will never understand.
The game is full of baffling design choices, at some point one must ask themselves what the hell the studio director was thinking.
It's a shame because the game really is good beneath these obtuse systems.
“This is generally used as a material” is the most unnecessary voice line ever, and they seemingly say it a million times.
I feel like the whole lore of "pawns" was just a way to add companions to the game with an easy excuse to not spend any money on voice actors
@@whatNtarnation90 People really shit on the pawn system despite it's literally the reason why anyone would play Dragon's Dogma?
The point of the pawn system is that pawns are created by other players. The sky is the limit here. What other games where you can have Kratos, Guts, Daenerys, Pikachu, Yoda or even Adam Sandler... as travelling companions and fighting along side your own created characters? I can say about zero. In what other video game can you say you saw a random Squidwad walking towards you while your on a quest and asking to join your party? I can also say about zero.
The dialogue in this game is like a junior high kid writing what he thinks medieval people sounded like
IDK what's worse... the dialogue or the plot. I have no idea if the devs are just completely brain dead when it comes to creativity, or what... This had the worst story and writing of any single player game I can remember.
Huh..? Can you give an example of bad dialogue?
@razvanradoiu off the top of my head, no...but it's been weeks since I played it.
My impression was that it was awkward
The only point that really annoys me is the missing layered armour system. Who came up with the idea that I needed less armour options in the sequel? Dragons Dripma was an important part of the first game!
This 🙌
My guess: an engine restriction or time crunch.
so you played DD:DA and the ONLY thing that bothers you is the dumbed down armor system? I wish I felt the same man.
@@ideal9544 I played an unreasonable amount of DD:DA (around 2400 hours to this day). There are obviously different topics that could be brought up. The first game with DA installed did a few things better for sure, the end game loop for example, but this one doesn't annoy me too much yet, since I'm almost certain that DD2 will receive a dlc which should achieve the same. The quests seem to be a bit better than in the first game, so no complaints here. The story is just as incompetent, so that's not a let down, for I expected it to be bad from the very start. I could go on, but I think you catch my drift by now. I would've mentioned the performance issues as a big minus point, if I would've experienced any, which I didn't oddly enough.
I'll have a lot more to complain about if the DLC doesn't do much in regards of end game content. I wouldn't mind a few more vocations and armour sets either. Getting my Dragons Dripma back is the top priority for me.
As it stands now, I put 280 hours into DD2, that's a bit more time than I spent in DD1 before DA came out. I'm certain that the armour system isn't getting fixed tho, that's why it's the only thing that really annoys me.
I know 😭😭😭😭😭 One of the biggest disappointments in my life. I literaly told my wife a few days before launch: "I am SOOOO excited to combine the new armor pieces together and look awesome!" And then I was really, REALLY disappointed. Why are they always doing backsteps in the sequels? 😭
“Capcom. It’s 2024. Wake up you dolt.”
Is the modern consensus with every game company rn
It’s also a fallacy sadly so there’s no argument there.
@@JKSmith-qs2ii How about the fact that this has been the "biggest year for gaming" since covid and the most popular, high budget game is a Fortnight clone that tried to copy pokemon (Palworld) lol
@@misapheonix this is a baby year for gaming compared to 2023 wdym
@@Farowlol Huh, maybe it's a subjective thing but isn't there already a ton of "great games", and the year's not even half way, yet?
Yeah when they hyped the game and claimed fast travel is for boring games I really thought we would get some RDR2 levels of immersion and exploration but in a fantasy setting. Boy was I disappointed when I found out they just meant a constant barrage of goblins and harpies lol.
Npcs fighting over you only happens when you have high affinity with more than one npc and they happen to come across eachother infront of you. You can see it happen when you do the Sphinx quest where she asks to you to bring your loved ones to her. Edit: Also Spas clear away scars you gain from battles for you and your pawn
Gotcha, my bad, I could not find 1 video of this happening! Lol. One part i cut from the video is how you “raise affinity” isn’t it just giving them gifts over and over? That feels pretty hollow.. I think you do their quest too, that’s why I got the elf guy at the end.
@@JackSather Yeah I completely agree, the affinity system is something I totally would'nt mind if they just left it behind in DD1 and focus on other things instead
@@JackSather It's even an achievement. Just carry 2 loved ones into your home and they'll slap each other.
Yea, that affinity system is so odd because you're not forced to interact with it in any way, yet it pulls the person you have the most affinity with into the CLIMAX OF THE STORY. The designers really should've ensured that this couldn't be some arbitrary random that you accidentally gave a rock to.
@@aarongeorge347Yeah, like, there should be a point where your highest affinity peeps will ask you to commit to them or something, that way you don’t just have Grimblegrop there at the end every single time because his quests were easy exp.
The, “You don’t deserve the soft piano music” bit at the end had me rolling lmaooo
Just some correction, the two lovers have a fight out at your house is a real thing.
However, the stop fighting button was never implemented. Instead, you have to carry one of your lovers away from your house so they stop fighting.
And having s*x does give you a buff (but the same as food buff)
Eating or sex is often a dilemma I, as every adventurer, I’m sure, has had to balance before every great journey.
@@MrJoking4fun absolutely underrated comment
a good shag is the key to a good adventure
Jack you absolutely should play kingdom come deliverence and make a video about It, one of the best medieval games ever, there's a sequel annouced to this year too
YES
i second this my Good man.
I literally just downloaded it last night so i can record content (i have so much ideas but executing on creating videos is so difficult for me 😭).
But yeah I second this, JACK make a Kingdom come video!
YESSSS
I'm quite hungry
A couple of things to mention.
1. Dragon's Dogma 1 had all of the vocations unlocked the moment you visit the capital city for the very first time.
2. I can assure you, that nobody will defend the DD2 soundtrack, because the DD1 soundtrack exists. Into Free, and Coils of Light are certified bangers, there is a reason why OST from DD1 is as DLC for DD2.
3. Yes, I was disappointed with lack of variety, considering that for some reason they removed bosses from DD1 like Hydra, Cockatrice, or Beholder(giant evil eye mob)
4. Once again, in Dragon's Dogma 1 you could switch between gear from storage anywhere you wanted, not sure why it is not here in DD2.
5. Story is an absolute downgrade, the personal main issue is that story related, there's almost zero Dragon in Dragon's Dogma 2, it is a far cry from DD1 Dragon which was an amazing character(also they get ride of iconic VA of this Dragon)
6. Ultimately the game suffers almost the very same issues everyone had with DD1, but DD1 had DLC that fixed quite a lot of issues, which they did not too takes note from and seemingly decided to take a step backward.
7. The end-game of DD1 is vastly superior to DD2, DD1 has two different end-games, a Base game, and DLC, and both of them alone dwarf the DD2 one.
8. Also, DD1 had a much cooler final fight, where after the Dragon, if you had online mode on, you eventually fought another player's main character who manage beat the game before you.
Not-so-fun-fact: Capcom did not have faith in this game in the first place, if you look up credits, you can see that on DD2, it worked around 300 people, vs other Capcom tiles like RE4, or Street Fighter 6 which had around 1000 people.
Not-so-fun fact 2: Director of Base Dragon's Dogma 1 and 2 was Hideaki Itsuno, however, the person responsible for DLC and the Online version of the game was one of the Designers, Kento Kinoshita. This may give us some clue, as to why all the changes and improvements that DLC did to DD1 were not in DD2.
I played and loved DD1, the story was weird but still felt coherent and cool. Grigori was a total chad - David Lodge's voice uplifted the cool dialogue to the next level too - and fighting him felt epic. The endgame was unique and felt like another challenge, which made sense considering the very last fight.
I don't have time to rant about all the things this game does outright worse. This is a flat out downgrade in all but graphics. I'm glad I waited to buy it because I won't until they fix all this.
No offense to this Hideaki Atsuno guy, but why the fuck isn't Kento Kinoshuta the game director instead then? Atsuno can be chief gameplay designer or whatever the fuck, and they should hire actual fucking writers lmao.
Wow this takes some meticulous notetaking while playing this game. Every point made was supported by relevant clips of his playthrough. Amazing video.
The random guy you spent 2 minutes in dialog with being cast as the person you cherish most. That had me fucking sent.
I like that at 18:13 you can hear a song by “monsters and men” subtly when he says the words “monsters and men”, those fun little details are why i love this channel so much
yo lmao dint even realise
I was also bumbed by the amount of enemies from this game. I remember the cockatrice giant bird that could petrify you. And of course all the crazy monsters from the DLC of DD1.
I'm positive the gore cyclops isn't in the game, Undead Dragon, Death Himself, or literally mimics.
To be fair, the last 3 you listed weren't in the original dd1 either. Those didn't exist until the dark arisen dlc.
That was the biggest letdown as well. I'm was so tired of fighting enemies at the end.
Another goblin group, 8,900 isn't that fun, broken up by basically 5 big enemies every 3 hours.
@@Tmangman1They had the code and assets for the game already. Why not put them in?
Also, 98% of crafting materials were junk that maybe had usage for one armor set.
@@alemswazzu bc it's a completely different engine?
@@JackdotC So they could clone the rest of the enemies they brought over from DD1 but not these?
The story was clearly an afterthought but I think what the developers underestimated here is that the story and characters are a hook for you to motivate you to get invested in the world and go exploring. Mindless walking around and killing monsters is fun but when you have a well made setup and lore for the worlds you’re in makes you wanna do all the side stuff even more. It’s the reason that I do absolutely every side quest in the witcher 3 every time i do another playthrough and the reason why I’m enthralled with baldurs gate 3 and try to explore the entire map before doing any main quests cause I wanna get the most out of its world and not miss out or get locked out of a quest in that game. Of course those two games are the best the genre has to offer, but in this game I don’t care at all about who’s who and why I’m doing what i’m doing. It’s just where can I get the best loot and where’s the next enemy to kill. Nothing about its storytelling incentivizes me to explore anything or get invested in the world.
If you look into the original dev diaries, the lore was the forefront, but unfortunately tons just got cut, additional races and their backstories, and entire extra half of the map, on top of additional land mass, and a multiverse theory involving worlds stacked upon worlds and an endless tower (the everfall) which connects them, it woulda been way cooler than what we got, unfortunately it looks like BOTH games now cut more than half of what the creator originally intended
@@CaeridLock. In this instance it matters less what the "creator" "originally" "intended" because if they were competent they would have started with things that impact the player feel and story and worked from there. Instead we have end-result people hyping up a result that never comes and/or is unimpressive for what they expected. They're just doing it all wrong, the whole way up.
This is very true, I got bored so fast
@@Szanth the thing is also that the first game had a lot of cut content and this sequel was billed as the creators true vision only for this game to be half baked once again. Sure the combat is great, but as for actual improvements over the original other than graphics there aren’t that many. Hell I think the variety of vocations was actually better in DD1.
I think part of the Japanese UI design is their maximalist media aesthetic in general. Japanese ads are usually just STUFFED with information, which looks cluttered and incomprehensible to 'mericans, but is something they are used to. Super interesting to look into, there's several great videos on RUclips about it!
follow up: ruby is adorable 🥺 kitties do have a way of stealin' your heart
@@QuintenKilborn sure but as he said I dont need a to remind me what key does what.
Its like do I have alsheimer? This is with most modern UIs and GPS markes on the map when I see this.
@@Vanadium It was probably focus-tested and we do have Alzheimer's as a species.
As a South Korean, I can attest the UI designs are similar in Korea as well. It comes from cultural differences where in general, East Asians value information and mass data, while Westerners prefer clean presentability. You can check the difference yourself by going to the Naver homepage, the main search engine of South Korea, and comparing it to Google.
Ya I may have to take a deep dive into it haha, i’m surprised though that there ARE super successful outliers like Zelda or Mario Odyssey, like.. they’re capable of making great ui, but most seem to be stuck in the past? I wonder what that disconnect is
Just a few corrections I feel I should mention at 20:40.
Buying a round of beer supposedly makes npcs forgive you. If you accidentally angered, npcs in that city may attack you on sight and buying a round supposedly stops that. It also raises affection with everyone in that town if you wanted to romance someone (despite how lacklustre the romance system is)
Going to the spa gives a buff and removes scars that build-up on your pawn from deaths. It also raises pawn affection (which impacts the ending)
There isn’t any dialogue I know of that even vaguely hints at these being perks of those activities. I figured buying rounds builds affinity possibly.
I had actually hoped using the spa would’ve been a way to heal the healthbar loss back without having to sleep, in case you were working on a time-sensitive quest, but got your shit rocked that day.
Like, thank goodness for allheal elixirs.
As a long time DD1 fan. This game was one of my biggest let downs, more like DD1.5 right? Pretty sure Capcom rushed this game out and forced an earlier release date.
Different combinations of materials result in different creations.
It does feel that way, and it sucks because that's why the first game couldn't reach its full potential.
I don't think they expected it to be this popular because the first game wasn't that popular
Idk what yall are on about, the game is amazing and a significant upgrade from the first.
@@Super_Brolyit had a significant graphical update. The gameplay has had some updates, the use of physics is phenomenal but as for the vocations, the main meat of the gameplay, i found them a bit lacking when compared to first. Then there’s a shortage of items, craftable materials, less enemy variety surprisingly and a very bad armor and weapon variety.
There’s no cheese to get into the island, it’s a literal pathway through the mountain. It’s a trial to get through, and the reward is the opportunity to get those vocations. Fair enough to a lot of the criticism, but I gotta point that out
Also, free sex at the brothel if you expose one dude ingame. It's a Platinum card.
Oh there is a cheese to get to the island, it's just not Drabnir's Grotto. You can literally phase through the upper part of the Godsbane door in Battahl with several vocations lol
@@fadingghost9723 or you can just dash through it as a Thief if your framerate is
@@dmrzl somehow, I'm not surprised by that.
looks like i'm staying awake another 45 minutes, happy sather day
DOGMA BALLS
DOGMA BALLS
hell yeah brother
HA! AUGHT'EM!
@@tonny.c This was great. Well done!
its actually called Dragons dogma......
as in DRAGON DEEZ NUTS ACROSS YAW FACE
It baffles me after finishing this to see people call it the best game they’ve ever played and their goty lmao
It’s like marginally better than the first game from 12 years ago
I don't know if it's Capcom shills or delusional fanboys or if they never played the first game
i dont understand why this guy is so angry at everything though. at some point alongside all the hours it takes to beat the first game and the second one u should just accept that these games are weird af and not about the story and characters at all. sitting there through the ending and complaining about the story and how youre annoyed because nothing makes sense is like watching an entire season of an anime and raging that the characters make funny faces or whatever. or like going to watch fast and furious and complaining about the cinematography and writing not being like the godfather.
if you take these games for what they are its different. now of course even from that perspective its still flawed as i feel like its DD1.5 after 12 years.
It's marginally worse*
@@nomorepartiezz I think you're a bit sensitive if you think this is "so angry"
@@foxfire1112 Right? Dude didn't even raise his voice except in the video clips he recorded of himself playing the end. I assume it's the same mindset as "everyone who isn't agreeing with me is a hater," when people are just making valid points lol.
16:34 it totally happens, it might be kinda easy to miss but there's even an achievment for it "Plenty Arisen to Go Round" you need the gift flowers to any npc so they like you more and they actually go to your house visit you.
The only thing that got me through this game was the combat but after 80 hours of it I was beyond done
Killing the same enemies for the 100th time really make the combat just lame.
I was gonna make a video on DD2..but I'm about 10 hours in and im relating to everything you're saying here, I like it, but I don't LOVE it enough to keep trudging on.
I've played both games, and this one has a downgrade on A LOT OF EVERYTHING. I'll just list it here.
-Can't sell from Storage(DD1 did this)
- LESS ENEMY VARIETY
-DD1 had a coherent story to follow. Even the end boss post game was more story driven and the twist reveal was perfect back than.
-There's actually LESS pawn customization with personality in DD2.
-You could legit sit down with your pawn first game and tell them to shut up.
-I MISS THROWING OIL BOTTLES AT GOBLINS AND SETTING THEM ON FIRE RAH
-Also store vendors would unlock more end game items if you higher thier affinity or do quests.
-Mystic Woods in DD2 is a husk of what DD1 had. There was a legit witch in DD1.
-And There were actually Bandit fortresses.
- I could go on but I'm actually sick of all these changes.
And if you play the first game, get those portcrystals, and the eternal ferrystone. Fast travel everywhere, for free, at most moments.
@@dalekmasterblaster585ive heard that dragon have all the same mechanics just reskin which is weard af for a game with dragon in the title. I remember in the first one we had variant such as sleep, freeze, fire (ofc)
If you don't like it at 10hours im afraid it only gets worse. The more you play the more you realize just how hollow the game is.
Don't feel you need to force yourself to continue playing. I have bought 6 copies of DD:DA, gifted a few copies, I own it on 4 separate consoles. Needless to say, I love Dragon's Dogma and have loved it for a decade. I returned DD2 after like 30-40 hours. It ruined literally everything I loved about the first game and I just couldn't force myself through it anymore. The only thin,g the ONE thing I could say I liked about it was that it's kind of cool seeing your character hold your sheath blade as a Fighter. That's it. Everything else was a step back.
As person that played a lot of the first game i just love the second game and things just click on the place for me, i understand 100% why people dont like this game but i dont care and thats why after so many years so many people still love DD and consider the game a cult classic a hidden gem and the hype for a Dark Arisen DLC on the second game is big
Tis no great shock to me
I've played both games, and this one has a downgrade on A LOT OF EVERYTHING. I'll just list it here.
-Can't sell from Storage(DD1 did this)
- LESS ENEMY VARIETY
-DD1 had a coherent story to follow. Even the end boss post game was more story driven and the twist reveal was perfect back than.
-There's actually LESS pawn customization with personality in DD2.
-You could legit sit down with your pawn first game and tell them to shut up.
-I MISS THROWING OIL BOTTLES AT GOBLINS AND SETTING THEM ON FIRE RAH
-Also store vendors would unlock more end game items if you higher thier affinity or do quests.
-Mystic Woods in DD2 is a husk of what DD1 had. There was a legit witch in DD1.
-And There were actually Bandit fortresses.
- I could go on but I'm actually sick of all these changes.
@@dalekmasterblaster585 Bro, you're opinion changes nothing. No one is concerned about any of that. Return the game and move on.
I don't think so. DD2 is nothing but DD1 capped but with better graphics. Such a let down@@Super_Broly
@@Super_Broly Damn you are just obsessed with glazing Capcom in this video's comments dude, have you thought about going outside at some point in the future? You are under every single comment making excuses and drooling all over mediocrity.
im so glad i have super low standards apparently cuz most of this stuff flew over my head and I was able to play the game for hours straight
But did they spend 12yrs working on this? Or were they like, “hey it’s been 12yrs since we made that dragon’s dogma game. It did well. Let’s do it again.” It definitely feels last minute slapped together. They could have added so much more to make the story better and the game more dynamic. To make the queen regent more evil throw in greed, lust, envy, and some power aspects in there. High prices, give the brothel ladies more of a story, have the queen’s army harassing near by villages, and have her sending assassins after you. Then give her a twist of an ending. Oh! That elf guy comes over to my house in Vermund once in a while to ask me to go on a quest with him. Same with the old knight guy but in Harve village.
Hearing a grown man refer to sex as "come over and play' is nightmare material 😭
😂
The Japanese are a broken and silly peoples. We must cherish their strange wimsy and terrible writing, else they delve further into their robots and fisherman's wives.
Story wise I feel like I 'get' what they wanted to do, the blue boi ghost is basically using you all for his amusement, the reason everything feels like a stage play is because IT IS, you're are there to be the hero and win the day and everything revolves around lining up for you to do it so the cycle can repeat, there's constant talk among NPCs that that dont know if they made their choices because they truly want to and in the rare time an NPC would make one that prevents you from fulfilling the role as hero, they're 'changed' as seen when you get the Godsbane.
The Dragon knows his role will never change and has become so apathetic he doesnt care anymore and is subtly guiding you to making true change. Similar vibes are felt with key characters that are outside the cycle like the Maesters, Dragon Forged and Mad King.
It could have been done *so* much better though.
Everything Wrong with Dragon's Dogma 2
Correct
Everything Wrong with Dragon's Dogma 2
Indeed that is the title
Well done!
NO FUCKING WAY
Awesome video, btw the examine button = sprint button can be changed in the options (not in the controls tab of course...?). Still sucks that it's the default but yeah you can fix it.
I believe it was a bug that the Pawns would repeat the same thing so often. The most recent patch has made my Pawns say various things I've never heard them say before and reduced the amount of times they say the same line. However, it seems like they accidentally increased how often Hired Pawns are in suggesting you follow them for a quest they have knowledge of. I tell them No(Follow Me) and they keep harassing me every minute unless I un-check the quest.
one thing, you do not have to cheese to the endgame island to get all vocations, i just was exploring around and found the other way naturally to it (the underwater cave catacombs path or whatever its called)
Nobody tell him about the Platinum Card for the Rose Place. Free Sex for literally exposing someone in game.
Western gaming devs are hardly at a good place right now but I'm also quite tired of all the random bullshit in Japanese games.
"Hey, you know what's real fun? Beating the game 11 times to get the true ending with an additional 10 seconds of footage for the outro cutscene!"
I agree
You do kinda forget to mention for the Mystic Spearhand upgrade you help a town that was attacked by a Dragon numerous times throughout the story after which the guy you talked to offers to train you. Some other Vocations are eally just as simple as talking to someone but for that one there was a quest you may have forgotten was attached toi the town
Wait, what? There was a quest to help a town? I just went down south and found a tower where Sigurd happened to be and we fought a dragon in a quest lol.
I am so glad you decided to make a video on this game, I've also got just over 100 hours in it and it was probably my most anticipated game of this year and I was... conflicted. The game is both really addicting because of the combat and pawns but horrible dated with all the awful NPC dialogue, lack of RPG elements, and just a ton of questionable design choices. The "world-building" if you can call it that is the worst in any RPG that I've played in 10+ years (coincidentally, roughly since I played DD:DA), not a single NPC is interesting, the story is laughably bad. So disappointing.
Edit: Yes, I was VERY disappointed with the enemy variety. I bought this assuming it was a sequel, not a remake. I'm so sick of goblins and saurians.
I actually started hating combat in the end, because it served absolutely zero purpose to fight them for the 934,247nd time, for worthless materials.
Dragons Dogma 2 felt like it’s honestly dd1 with updated graphics. I loved the first. Hundred of 100s in the first including the DLC.
It’s a solid 7/10 for me and I am enjoying it, but as long as we waited, I expected a little more out of this.
I felt like the areas were more enclosed than DD1. If you played the first game. Remember Bluemoon Tower. You're first incredible fight with the Griffin.
The giant sinkhole in the middle of the city post game, where you could fight an undead dragon and gain holy weapons depending on how much damage you dealth. But it was also linked to other players worlds, so the dragon had like a million health points.
💯. The potential for a 10 is there, but really shit the bed on missed opportunities. So many systems were really shallow, that could have been improved.
1:36 I've been saying Jack Slater (Arnold Schwarzenegger's character in The Last Action Hero) this whole time
For context: yes, the "come over and play" thing IS a translation quirk. The Japanese word 遊ぶ (asobu) translates literally as "play" but it's a very flexible word. A closer approximation in the context of that interview is "come over to pay you a visit."
I had the achievment pop for having two npcs fight over you while i was doing an escort mission. Never saw them fight because i was inside my house but heard some dialog where they got snippy with each other.
16:34 It actually happens tho, you just haven't seen it. If you befriend two people, like Glyndrw and Beren, and they visit you at the same time, the scene is gonna trigger.
Not that it matters a lot since the NPCs are still very shallow.
Also I'm not sure but I think japanese to english translations are always very sus because of localization so the director is probably not being a weirdo when he says that "someone might come over to your house to play", maybe it makes more sense in japanese.
Also sick reference to Of Monsters and Men bro
The fortune teller actually helps you complete quests that you dont know anything about for example if you get a quest where you have to find someone but doesnt tell you where the fortune teller can help you
Regarding 16:03 , He said Asobou. Which means to play if you look into it in a dictionary. But what it actually means is, to hang out/ to have fun. So, the line should be more like "A character who is close to you might come to your house to hang out."
Alright though, but,
Drinks, raises affinity for all present
Spa, does give buff
Prostitutes, does give buff
Donations to the poor, unlocks quest
Hunting, you get meat.
Absolute massive fan of the first game, I made a ton of videos on it back in the day. Even as a completely rose-tinted glasses player: I can’t help but admit the game has a ton of issues that can be worked on.
It was a shame to see the conversation get sidetracked so much by people being dramatic online, instead of actual game critique, so thank you for this video!
Seriously. I wish people would shut up about the micro transactions, and actually bring attention to just how many things the game does worse than the first.
They'll slowly make it better. Unfortunately, that's just how gaming is now. But the first game was really rough at first too! And tons of people hated it. Now it is looked at as a cult classic because they only experience DDDA and not DD OG.
@@bridgesbane7032 Exactly, DD1 was rough. So all this shows is that they literally learned nothing in these 12 years. Why does DD2 have to ALSO be rough? Isn't the point of a sequel to be BETTER than the first entry?
“This game is so full of itself”
The perfect way to word it and exactly how I felt after stupidly spending 171 hours in this game.
Awesome video you really seem to be finding your style. Also love your cat Ruby. Very cute!
for the "lovers fighting part" you have to max out your relationships with two npcs via giving them flowers then carry them to your house and they will start fighting and you'll get an achievement called theres plenty of arisen to go around
Love the cat man! I played 200 hours and I actually didn’t know the unmoored world existed . So I did a new game plus without seeing it and had to do a whole other play through just to experience it. Also I couldn’t even figure out what the quests wanted me to do. Its like you to watch walkthroughs constantly to get through theses quests.
Nah, you just don't know how to play. I haven't had to look up a guide for a single quest. Wanted to but once I used my brain and made a decision, that decision affected goals.
@Super_Broly ok calm down Sherlock
If ur not a brain dead person it’s not that hard to figure out.
@@snootydooty3543 I refuse
Everybody thinks you can't use Warfarer unless you equip that one skill but you don't have to. As long as you are Warfarer, you can switch weapons in the inventory menu.
The desk mat is crooked and now I can't unsee it...
Great video and cute cat. Also a fan of the subtle Of Monsters and Men reference.
Knoble knight, is that you???? Where's Merlin?
man i expect for the game to improve its essential since the combat still holds up and thats given time seeing other things needs improvements. man Elden Ring adn Armored Core 6 spoiled me w/ how these masocore titles are streamlined w/ QoL, UX, and accesibility.
Bro must have a spirit Halloween in his house with all these costumes
i love how they showed me all those characters during the credits, like it actually meant something.
also it doesn‘t really matter how good the combat feels, after a hundred hours of fighting the same enemies.
don’t get me wrong, i did have my share of fun with this, it’s just that they could have done so much more with this.
being a strong arisen in this game just felt kind of pointless to me.
I definitely feel the same way about Logan's Ligma. Story based RPG with no real story, big open world with little reason to explore it, and lots of things to experience with somehow incredibly little to spoil for others.
Not a bad game, but not a terribly good game either.
Seems like everyone is feeling the same. I was really excited for Dogman’s Dragma 2, but they seem to have fumbled the bag and just made the first one again with better graphics. I'm hoping to come back to it in 6-9 months once it's been updated and had it's issues fixed. If not, then I'll just skip it entirely. It's not like Drogman's Bogma is the only game released this year, so I'm easy either way TBH.
@@MarioGoatse Glad we could agree on that Goatse Mario! It's rough around the edges and not all it was originally intended to be, but I'm not that upset over it since I went in with zero expectations.
Who the hell is Logan
@@shiroufan5401 Hahahahaha. "Logan's Ligma", "Dogman's Dragma", "Drogman's Bogma" ahahhaha
Me personally, I'm thankful reviewers like you have been as critical of the game as you have been. Besides all of the OBVIOUS issues with the game as a modern AAA title, it really is just a glow up of the original game. And truth be told, I haven't relly enjoyed my time in Dragon's Dogma as much as I was hoping I would, so I'm glad I didn't invest 400 clams into a PS5 just to play it. Awesome video as always!
I've played both games, and this one has a downgrade on A LOT OF EVERYTHING. I'll just list it here.
-Can't sell from Storage(DD1 did this)
- LESS ENEMY VARIETY
-DD1 had a coherent story to follow. Even the end boss post game was more story driven and the twist reveal was perfect back than.
-There's actually LESS pawn customization with personality in DD2.
-You could legit sit down with your pawn first game and tell them to shut up.
-I MISS THROWING OIL BOTTLES AT GOBLINS AND SETTING THEM ON FIRE RAH
-Also store vendors would unlock more end game items if you higher thier affinity or do quests.
-Mystic Woods in DD2 is a husk of what DD1 had. There was a legit witch in DD1.
-And There were actually Bandit fortresses.
- I could go on but I'm actually sick of all these changes.
@@dalekmasterblaster585Preach it brother
@@dalekmasterblaster585No more layered clothes, can't change your name with the Art of Metamorphosis, way less Portcrystals and far harder to find, absolutely ZERO worldbuilding for the capital of the other kingdom, Bakbattahl. Like none. It felt even more hollow than Aurora the barely fleshed out desert area from Fable 3 that came out a year before the first DD game!
I don't know why but the npc talking collecting materials while you were just walking around was hilarious 😂
With the mystic spearhand there is a quest tied to attaining it that if you wait too long you to do it you will miss it. You have to go back to melve after doing Harve Village and monster culling quests. After fighting a dragon you talk to the mystic spearhand he gives you the vocation and later on it’s possible to help him on another quest. My guess is the Jack missed it because the prompt to go back is some off handed comment by Brant. If you miss then you just find him in his house in harve village.
I actually restarted dragons dogma 1 three times because I thought I was somehow missing important parts of the story. I was actually happy when the dlc, I think it was a dlc, was basically just an endless dungeon.
I kinda feel bad for them because it's like they want to tell a story but just suck at it. Not bad enough I'm going to buy this game though.
That tends to be the case for all of Capcom's games, the stories always seem to suck.
lack of new enemies was a big deal breaker for me, because i recently played Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen, this just feels like playing it again with more ASS Performance,
i Rate this Game as
wait for it to be Cracked and then torrent it
Ya, I wish I had never played bitterback isle before this. So much fun.
That's all dlc enemies included. Which didn't launch with the original game...
@@Super_Broly Irrelevant, why would the SEQUEL have less enemies than the LAST entry?
My friend bought this day one. Could tell just by how he described the gameplay that it seemed like a sequel that was supposed to be released 3 years after the first game. I recognized every mechanic,enemy,animation that he mentioned.
Not exactly negatives becauae Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3 are like that too. And its AWESOME having a new game for fresh eyes to check it out.
I loved the first game but it just seems like too little has changed for me to spend $70 on it😢.
You made the right call, kind of wish I did.
The old man at the end sailing away is letting you know that you stopped the brine and the calamity so it's less about caring about the old man and more about you stopping the brine. Since you did that he's able to sail the seas again.
There's quest for the four special vocations you unlock. i guess you just didn't find them
Not having 6 skills sucks honestly, Fighter feels worse than in DD1.
Really disingenuous on a few points, my fighter pawn launched me up all the time. I shot an explosive arrow, switched to my sword and my warrior pawn launched me up to the explosive. They learn by fighting, you can’t just expect them to know everything off the bat.
My pawn was also hired, so I hired their pawns in return and met a few pawns that leveled up around the same speed as mine. I’d send them away with a gift and then summon them later to see if their Arisen was playing. Still have those pawns saved in my favourites.
If two NPC with max affinity enter your house at the same time, they will fight, there are clips on RUclips.
42:15 “I don’t know who the fuck is talking” lmao
I have experienced the "fighting over you deal" it's referring to if you've romanced more than one character and both show up at your house. They will end up fighting each other over you.
It's a weird mechanic... and deeply hilarious when you absolutely did not mean to romance someone (i.e max their affinity with you) so I had two random NPCs I've done quests for show up to I guess try to bang, only to fight each other over me.
I really disagree with saying elden ring has a terrible user interface, I never struggled with it and the UI is perfect for me, with is why all other souls likes copies them. I mean there was that whole thing comparing Ubisoft and fromsoft UI and how much better fromsofts was compared to the cluttered Ubisoft one.
yo @JackSather there are a lot of unfinished things but what itsuno was talking about at 16:07 is actually in the game lol
23:39
That's actually what they did in Forespoken. You get the last 2 elements right before the game ends.
The devs realised this and left a bunch of exp shards on the floor so you can level them up and use them for like 30 mins lol
This game is full of secret mechanics and interactions. I feel like it has two types of exploration. One being exploring the map and the other exploring how deep the mechanics and systems are. I keep finding things I had no idea were possible. The main moment I had like this was ending the quest for the guy being poisoned by the nun in vernworth. It felt a bit abrupt but I thought fuck it I’m going to go kidnap the doctor using a ferrystone and bring him back to the church but it turned out you could convince him to go help after the quest had ended and there was absolutely no indication that was an option other than my own intuition.
I think you can remap the buttons, so you don't have to run off a cliff when picking a flower.
On console, a setting is made to make it so dashing isn't on Examine anymore.
How?
ya THINK?
@@Goblexter It's a Japanese game, I'm surprised they let you change the controls at all.
The Ghost dude was talking the whole time. Basically it's a cycle. That's the game.
There's an achievement for the people fighting over your character. You have to have two people in the same town be in love with you (they blush when you talk with them) and own a house. There's a chance for both of them to be at your house, and then they'll start fighting over you.
24:00 in their defense, those vocations are hybrids. They do that too in DD1
To give the game some credit back you seem to have missed many interactions with PNCs, including quest lines and lore explanations.
You would have understood who the watcher is, how to reach the volcanic island, even the story behind the little tree in the ending credits. The exploration in this game isn't just running around finding chests, it's also going back to places you've already visited to talk to PNC you've already met before.
That being said, it's not a natural thing to do and I even finished the game a first time in 20 hours not knowing this. Took 80 hours for the second playthrough.
yeah I agree that Jack has missed some interactions in the game, but honestly I doubt that would've changed his view of the story.
I've played DD2 for over 160 hours and did virtually everything there was to be done in the game, and the story is still a mess, with some plots that make no sense and some storylines that seem clearly unfinished or rushed. The game is fun when looking at combat and exploration, but the story is TOTALLY not the reason to play it. It lacks the charisma of the first game. It's weird to see Itsuno speaking about the game with such high praise, when it's clear that the game shines for technical reasons (clearly not speaking about performance here), but not for narrative ones.
To add insult to injury, game progression is all over the place, with some oddly terrible choices such as locking certain classes until the late game
@@Naphen I wholeheartedly agree with all your points.
As I said I just tried to give some credit back but this game really could have been a masterpiece in my opinion, but ends up feeling really rushed out.
The game is still mid anyway, truly a ok ps3 game released in 2024
@@Jeanssj98 what a load of BS 😂
@@Super_Broly its an open world arpg without almost any of the rpg and literal no good side quests and main story
There's nothing wrong with 2 guys sucking together - you should stick to your guns Jack!
Yoooooooo 😅
“ I’m not a big cat person but “ says every mad cat lady ever when getting their first cat
Enemy variety blows. It's ok at first, but there is nothing to buy/upgrade with 98% of your crafting materials.
First game had like 15 different plants, and tons of combinations of items. There always felt like something was yet to be discovered/combined. Not here after 15 hours. Same 5 plants, same 4 enemies (with different colors), no materials are made by crafting, so just collecting junk. I had so many materials that I never used once at the end. WTF is point of exploring if you don't use the materials.
Really really shallow compared to the first. Tons of QOL I like, but just as many taken away. Like the inventory issue in the video.
So frustrating, I enjoyed most of the time, but damn was it a missed opportunity.
There’s a point to the main story being completely unrelated to the dragon. The dragon is pretty much like a force of nature that chooses you, and then you have to get strong enough that when he comes back you dont die. The main story of both games is basically a long training arc of your character preparing to fight the dragon. I do recommend playing the first game before the second, because of lot of lore makes more sense, and there’s a lot of hidden things that I picked up on that new players wouldn’t have. Also do every main quest before the move on part. Like Brant’s quests, do all of them before going on to the ceremony. They’re very easy most of the time and give more explanation for what’s going on.
Edit: The whole becoming king thing is a false ending. There’s another like 4th of the game to go through.
Also one thing I want to add is you CANNOT rename your pawn after creating them. I fucking made Legolas look alike character and his name is just “MainPawn” and now I can’t change it so no one will even pick him up. Absolute backwards system.
Haha that montage of the rift freakshow was gold mate. Wish it went on for much longer! Was cacking myself
he "worked" on this "story" for "20 years".
I don't even need to write a single additional line because you KNOW if you played this.
Calling it a story is extremely generous and a stretch
@@cartoonvideos5 are you... I'm sorry is there an echo in this comment section?
seeing your utter disappointment in this game’s ability to miss the mark at EVERY opportunity was hilarious. i dont think i could make it to 5 hours, let alone 100, with such lackluster character building and story. so thank you for your service
NPC spotted
Treat the game like monster hunter and quests like bounties and the game’s fun, you know… when you ignore the whole RPG part of ARPG.
It's not. Monster hunter has a good gameplay loop, crafting, grinding, etc.
I have over 400 hrs in DD1 and I'm massively disappointed with this game
@badger297 you have 400 hours on DD1 Dark Arisen, not the first game. The added DLC pushed you over the 200 hour mark. stop comparing a newly released game to a game that has DLC and is over a decade old. Give them time to release their whole project and all it's DLC.
@@Super_Brolythey didn’t give me the chance to enjoy their base product and make a good game. If they don’t think I deserve that respect as a consumer, fuck you for telling me I must afford them any respect in waiting for DLC content.
I've played both games, and this one has a downgrade on A LOT OF EVERYTHING. I'll just list it here.
-Can't sell from Storage(DD1 did this)
- LESS ENEMY VARIETY
-DD1 had a coherent story to follow. Even the end boss post game was more story driven and the twist reveal was perfect back than.
-There's actually LESS pawn customization with personality in DD2.
-You could legit sit down with your pawn first game and tell them to shut up.
-I MISS THROWING OIL BOTTLES AT GOBLINS AND SETTING THEM ON FIRE RAH
-Also store vendors would unlock more end game items if you higher thier affinity or do quests.
-Mystic Woods in DD2 is a husk of what DD1 had. There was a legit witch in DD1.
-And There were actually Bandit fortresses.
- I could go on but I'm actually sick of all these changes.
Played on PS5. Never had any issues. But I honestly can't tell if you got the "TRUE" ending to the game. There's a lot of details story wise that you missed. But you have to go to the Unmoored world to see the true ending of the game. Technically speaking, if you never go to the Unmoored world, you never actually play Dragon's Dogma 2. You just Played Dragon's Dogma. That's the reason why it's the "same game"
SPOILER WARNING
The way the lore works is in Cycles. Every cycle there is a dragon and an arisen. The dragon finds the arisen, rips out their heart, the Arisen gets strong enough to fight and kill the dragon, everything is great, the arisen eventually becomes/transforms into a dragon, and then they repeat the cycle. Everything is always the same. The characters in the world are supposed to be there to play their role in making sure the dragon and arisen complete the cycle. In order to get to the Unmoored world which is hinted at in the main story if you talk to the crazy old guy on the beach before the sunken castle pops up. But the true ending to the game is what happens once you break the cycle of the Dragon and the Arisen. You both have to die.
The reason the game keeps making you replay that dragon fight is because you're supposed to climb down onto the dragon's heart/chest area, use the empowered godbane sword or whatever it's called on yourself while holding the dragon, and that's how you get the true ending. The dragon is giving you hints about killing yourself when you're flying to the last fight and that's why the ghost resets things if you talk to him. So that you can get the fake ending the first time experience fighting the dragon, then get the true ending the second time.
I don't know why but just looking at the thumbnail it was kinda hard to tell that it was a Jack Sather video at first sight. Scrolled past it like 5 times until I saw who uploaded it.
also great video as always
As someone who loves the first as a diamond in the rough (just did a playthrough on PC last year and it holds up) I'd be interested to see you play it. I haven't touched 2 yet, but it seems like no lessons were learned from the first game, and there were a lot of 1 step forward 2 steps back in design philosophy (no layering to armor, not being able to equip from storage, etc.)
yeah, i am playing ddda right now, as i bought dd2 and "no lessons were learned" part summaries dd2 in it entirety, and thats really sad. dd2 is not worse or better than dd1, its the same, but the problem is dd1 is a diamond in a rough and absolutely no intellectual work was done on dd2. So now we have two poorly realised openworld arpgs with cool ideas and no story whatsoever.
Operagx is chinese spyware bruv
Dunno if that is true but I could never change Firefox, my beloved
true but jacks gettin the bag
Solid video and a lot of fair points made, I agree with a lot of what you are saying, especially anything regarding the lack of polish with the writing, character plotlines, and presentation. Also, I laughed out loud at the real steak being cooked at camp lol. I gotta say, I have no issue that the over-arcing story and ending can seem confusing and vague. It really does require talking to the right NPC's to get what the game is trying to say. Like many elements in the game, it doesn't hold your hand in understanding the story, but it's there if you look and listen. This game is a classic, just like the first. **spoilers below**
@39:12
I missed it myself when I fought the dragon at the end. So when I was sent back to fight him again, to reaffirm my choice, I really listened to what the dragon was saying and he spells it out in a nuanced way. I was impressed when he bluntly called us a fool for not understanding what he was saying. I get this type of story telling isn't the strongest.. and can be frustrating when you just want them to spell it out at times. But in hindsight, I think the dragon's monologue + the pathfinder's dialogue in the throne room work really well. The first time you hear it, it just sounds like he is hyping you up before you both fight to the death, which is kick ass.. The second time, you realize he is explaining that by simply engaging in battle, any further discussion is pointless because our fate is doomed to perpetuate the cycle regardless of the outcome. So the third time I went back to reaffirm my choice, I noticed the deafening beating of our hearts when you climb up near his, and it should also be noted that his flight path is ridiculously out of the way if he was just going to take you to that final battle ground area, which is a clue that he is giving you time to make the decision you are supposed to make.. and truly prove your resolve by doing what needs to be done. Again, I know this isn't what some people want but, I think it's awesome. And besides, when From Soft tells stories half baked while forcing communities to piece together lore, people love it. So, I'd say DD2 story works if you seek it out. But if it's not for you, that's all good too lol.
That perfectly timed fuck at 0:31 is flawless. Man waiting 1 second after RUclips’s demonetization mark to swear. I respect it
I got excited when I realized they tried to make the pawns less souless but the constant repetitive dialogue made them feel just the same :/
Dragon's Dogma felt so barebones to me. The world was rather uninteresting. There weren't many interesting points to the game. No mysteries, nothing to uncover really. There was no point to exploration because the loot sucked so bad.
Equipment was pointless because all you had to do was to buy it from a vendor and for some reason it was vocation-locked. Despite not giving any vocation specific benefits.
The pawn dialogue was repetitive af. Story was quite generic.
Meh game. Absolute mid of the mids.
I got project zomboid. Played 250 hours of it instead.
Donating money to the poor is how you start a quest so it does lead to something, and also, having your fortune told does give hints towards your current quest if you're stuck.
Oh no! You can’t correct the entitled content creator! He has a camera and microphone so he is always right when he gives misinformation with confidence😂
@@MrShinyArceusBut he's right thou. The fortune teller can only give you what the game thinks is the next step of the quest. But if your quest is bugged out, then it only shows 1 nonsense message.
Every time that I was actually stuck, she just shows me a generic message. No.
it is possible for two people you have max affinity with to both show up at your house and start fighting over you, however it’s incredibly rare unless you are visiting your house every 30 minutes OR you force it to happen by raising the affinity of two people and bringing them to your house yourself. at least that’s what i had to do to get the achievement for it. you also can’t really do anything but watch it happen and there is no dialogue at all between the two people, just on sight violence so if you aren’t actively attempting to cause it you might not even understand what the hell just happened.