THANK YOU!!!! As an Assyriologist who would like to spread the fact that contrary to common opinion, thinking and related things were not invented by the Greeks, you cannot imagine how much I appreciate you pointing out that the 'Pythagorean' a2 + b2 = c2 was in use for an awful long time in Babylonia before he "invented" it. I would love it if you did an episode of Herodot, the man who wrote fantastical (as in, fantasy as a genre) travelogues and convinced the world he was a historian.
I’m an Assyriologist as well (also, an Egyptologist and Classical archaeologist). The Greeks learned a great deal from the great civilizations of Egypt, Mesopotamia, the wider Near East, and beyond - no doubt - but what they did with that knowledge is markedly different from anything that had gone before (and, arguably, since). In short, ‘sine Graecos, nihil’.
Example: driving to the in laws 4 hours away. Mention to my husband how it's weird we haven't seen any big rigs 3 hours into the trip. Usually it's just us and the big rigs. I prefer driving at night. But I was super lonely. It was the first week of June. So no holiday or anything. 5 minutes later we've got three behind us and two coming from the other direction. Like it forgot to load them until I mentioned it. I'm sure there's a logical psychological answer. But calling it all a simulation is more funny. But the earth is still round.
Just like the unscientific and dangerous high age of consent laws. When most nations are under 18 for a reason, since puberty is puberty and life expectancy has gone up. The brain fully develops at 25, not at 18. And age of consent is just very new and very flawed. And actual p*do, which is attraction to prepubescent beings, is a medical condition, not an excuse to hurt people with barbaric systems. #GoVegan 💚
Pathagoreans had a theory about a counter Earth on the other side of the sun. Being exactly opposite of the Earth and blocked by the sun, we never saw it. I always found the idea intriguing.
@@jesuslovesyou2616 if Jesus died for my sins, then my sins are already atoned for and therefore I have nothing to repent. So fuck off and stop pestering people, yeah?
There were reasons for disbelieving this for a long time. After we had the Mars Rover and other devices taking pictures of the Mars sky the issue should have been settled. Still, I have met people who still believe this absurdity.
Uh... That's just a typo, right? You do know that what he said was "maths cult", right? (Btw - If you don't already know this then maybe it threw you - referring to the subject as "maths" is one of those annoying ways that the Brits f up their own language. My guess is that they hear it as being consistent with the whole word, "mathematics", which no one would leave the ess off of, right?)
@@Ted-Stryker sayin someone has a low iq then sayin utube and not youtube...derp... Plus you must not have actually watched the video has 'thoughty2' said the line himself...double derp
@Charlie Bamford it was a joke😉 however the serious point could stand, I'm self employed and regularly make quotes for decking jobs or painting jobs, I've never since 1990 needed to use Pythagoras's theory, I do do my taxes every year and VAT 4x per year. The closest that I've been would be when needing to produce boarders at exactly 90° to a property, for which there's a simple trick (which of course wasn't taught at school because that would be too useful).
@@jamesgrover2005 I think in Pythagoras theorem every day in traffic, lol. Figuring shorter routes and what not. People do things differently... doesn't mean what you personally don't use is useless. I probably don't use a lot of things you consider important as well...
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I can't believe that no one gave your comment the praise it rightly deserves for its charming display of wisdom and subtle wit. I thought it was important for you to know that there's at least one person out here that recognizes your genius. Aaah, well...they say that no prophet is accepted in their hometown and that is surely the case here.
“Here’s what they didn’t tell you in math class… Fasthost is a UK-based…” Absolutely right, Thoughty2, my math teacher never started shilling crap in the middle of a lesson.
A young mathematician called Paul, invented the opthagonal ball, and the square of its weight times his bollocks times eight gave precisely the root of fuck all. Sorry mum! I did it for a bet!
yep huge debt, weirdness everywhere, little bit of math, some weird guy behind a veil telling you, you can't pee where you want and where you can pee you don't want...
The Pythagorean’s Cult, was no more Weird than the Monasteries from that time, but it still doesn’t come close to being as WEIRD, as becoming a Scientologist, with the Church of Scientology !!!
Crazy we associate a fundamental theorem with this guy he didn't even invent, instead of seeing him for the godfather of snake oil salesmen he truly was. History is truly something else.
It’s actually hard to pinpoint whether he actually just rediscovered it, regardless he did do a lot for mathematics with different discoveries. He definitely wasn’t a snake oil salesmen, he was intelligent but also weird
Hot take: Pythagoras made up his own life story, he hung out in Egypt for a while but didn’t do anything special. Once it looked like Persia was going to invade he just went back to his home town, never met the magi, and spun a convincing yarn about becoming a math wizard to become a cult leader. I don’t know a lot about math history, but I know cult leader bs when I hear it
I think he learned something from the Mystery Schools of Egypt and Babylon, mainly because he had a surface-level understanding of aspects of sun worship (which formed the foundation of the Mystery Religion), i.e. not peeing in the direction of the sun. He probably got kicked out of the Babylonian school by the Magi when they realized he was a huckster who would sell their secrets to the highest bidder, or something of the sort. Certainly his weird quirks were unfounded by critical thinking and if the practices of his cult represented some higher level symbolism, they were unique to only his cult (Egypt and Babylon shared many similar practices since Egypt supposedly derived its Mysteries from the Babylonians). In essence, Pythagoras was the Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism) of the ancient world.
One thing about cults I will never get... how do people even think that giving all they have is beneficial to anything? How weak minded do you have to be for someone to be able to control you like that. It's rather sad...
@@armageddon7376 because we all grow up in societies with taxes, employers, and landlords...we're giving away everything we work for from the day we're born to the day we die. Cults are attractive because the transaction seems to be more fair or equitable by the initiate's standards at the time. It offers the idea that all the stuff you're working for returns something into your life which is something most of society's options don't actually do. People get tired of being robbed by "legitimate" systems while feeling isolated and unappreciated. This is how cults work. It's not crazy. It's human. You are already part of several cults whether you want to admit it or not.
@@stefos6431 that may well be, but it still meets the definition of a cult. There's a lot of cults nowadays, we have Greta thunberg's group, we have Stephen Hawking's group, Hunter Biden's group, and Xi Jinpings group. And those are just the popular ones.
2:05 Actually, although the ancient Mesopotamians/ Babylonions already were aware of the theorem, the Pythagoreans delivered the oldest known proof to the theorem. That's why his name is on the theorem.
The Greeks were masters of the elenctic method; nothing was beyond dispute for the Greeks, not even the existence of the Gods. Greek intellectual culture had a high regard for rhetoric and rigour, and it is this climate, absent in other mathematically advanced parts of the world like India, China and Egypt, which lead to the development of mathematical proofs. When Pythagoras heard of the theorem, either he or (one of) his followers devised the first proof for it, hence the name.
Somehow it frightens me: Today, if you simulate a virtual reality, everything in it is, when reduced to computer coding, if broken down made of nothing but numerical combination consisting of the numbers 1 and 0 - both combined in the number 10. Maybe Pythagoras and his buddies were the first to believe in a simulated reality (in a few years, maybe decades, virtual simulations could be so realistic that they would be so undistiguishible from reality that Pythagoras wouldn‘t have been all that wrong - considering people like to sit A LOT in digital media) I guess Pythagoras and the boys were on to something. ;D
That’s an interesting new take on it. 10 is what computer coding is based on. And the amount of time spent on computers, in a way we’re worshipping it without realizing.
@@Nozarks1 Also there is already people that live in VR environments for most of their daily waking. Mostly in Japan if I recall correctly from the documentary I watched a few months ago. Now its only about the performance of the hardware and the immersiveness of the simulated environment. I dont think the sensory simulation is on par but if it one day becomes indistinguishable (no idea how to write that word btw) we could face issues like they were shown in the movie Inception where you dont even know whether you are in reality or simulation. This of course is highly speculative and a very far reach from the content of this video.
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked Lil Uzi Vert is 5 foot 4 inches tall. He claims his money is tall enough to add one more foot and two inches to his stature. The thickness of a $100 bill is .0043 inches, so it would take 3,256 $100 bills, which totals to $325,600, for Uzi to reach 6 foot 6 inches. This estimate only applies if Uzi manages to stand upright on only one stack of bills, which have a width of 2.61 inches and a length of 6.14 inches. If, however, Uzi used two stacks strapped to the bottom of each shoe, he’d need double the amount-$651,200. His net worth is estimated to be around $17 million.
I always get a good laugh from your videos! 😂 Loved the Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy and Silence Of The Lambs references, I was cracking up! 🤣 You’re the only person I know who can make the weirdness of history fun and entertaining. Thanks! 😊
same, this thing is mesmerising, put me back to the 80s watching "Magnum" with tom selleck .. oh shit...i wasted my childhood.... i dont like moustaches
i am a greek and i really enjoyed this video, i knew most of the stuff but learnt something new. also a tip everything in greek that ends in -oi is pronounced e not i so its mathimatike like the i e not the e e
You said his students (cultists) were judged on everything from their ability to think and concentrate to the way they laughed...I'm guessing the people he made into 'Listeners' were the ones he couldn't stand talking to or looking at. He didn't make them take a vow of silence and make them stay behind a curtain because it was more mysterious...he just didn't like them.
I spent my whole life thinking I was stupid because I was just not good at math, became an accountant and then learned that I had dyscalculia.(dyslexia but with numbers)
I like before I even watch the video. You’re easily my favorite RUclipsr/channel, just casually teaching me about damn near everything under the sun (and sometimes beyond it)! Keep it up Thoughty2 happy to see you getting so much deserved attention on your page
I had to take a second after binge watching thoughty2, I came to the realization that after 12 years since my graduation from highschool I was spending my free time educating myself again. This might sound to you like "ya so what?" Well...I was an all D/F student who absolutely hated school. Is this what they meant when they said education is fun? Because I thoroughly enjoy learning about all of this random stuff, stuff i know i would have hated learning about in school. Maybe priorities shift with age.
High School teachers in America were on average C students in High School themselves. I pity the younger generation, dealing with the kid's teachers is awfully frustrating. When I was a kid many of the older teachers were obviously A students. Think I only had one C throughout elementary and high school.
In order to add yourself to this cult, you must subtract yourself from your worldly possessions. Once you join, the cult's members have multiplied, though they are divided from their friends and family.
Which actually kinda terrible. No electricity, no running water, no air conditioner, nor heater, no internet connection, but the worst of all is... There's no porn and video games.
@@mikitz nah. alKILLhol is involved in over 50% of rapes, 3 million deaths a year, over 200 health issues including but not limited to cancer, heavily addicting. Not a very good hard drug. I'll stick to cannabis and some other psychedelics. Also, tea is nice.
I love this guy, literally makes entertaining informational stuff, I never run out of interesting stuff to watch on this channel, it’s absolutely amazing, one of the brightest men on RUclips
I'm just a peasant. My wife gave me a mobile device. I never watch her telly's. But finding Thoughty2 has to be a blessing. Thank you for your thoughts 😊👍✌️🙏
I never had a favorite number. I recently realized that numbers don't mean anything but the value we give to them and every number seems to have some kind of meaning which makes all of them mean nothing.
@@mcdingus5081 Just because Americans don't say maths and cant spell colour, flavour or aluminium, don't take it out on us Brits. Obviously the founding fathers didn't take a dictionary with them
Side note: Croton, where Pythagoras spent the last part of his life, was a Greek colony founded in what is now the Calabria region in southern Italy. Pythagoras died in 495 BC, about 15 years after the founding of the Roman Republic, so Croton would have fallen to the Romans soon after his death [I'm not sure of the exact date].
Thoughty2 is setting a REALLY high new bar for history teachers all over the world. Yes, they all should wear suspenders now, and have majestic moustaches.
Weren’t the Magi pronounced as Magic without the C at the end? Like Maj-eye? I could be wrong, never studied this area, mathematics is about as foreign to me as Sumerian.
@@jackdurden466 I think you are right. I have no clue about how ancent persian sounds like, but magi as in the video sounds like an anglicized pronunciation of the word (particularly the last vowel) and not how it is in most languages.
@@jackdurden466 Ancient Persians would have pronounced the singular form something like Mahgoosh But I am not sure about the plural form in ancient Persian Ancient Greeks used magos for singular and magoi for plural Ancient Romans had magus for singular and they would have pronounced magi more like Maggie Except that the a would be pronounced more like the a in father In medieval Latin the pronunciation of g started to change and that is why we pronounce the word magic like we do So in medieval Latin magi would be pronounced like magic without the c In modern English there was a vowel shift and that is why 42 pronounces it May jigh It would have been easier to explain all this in ancient Latin or Greek but no one would have understood what I would have written
I’ve heard that the word magic comes from the magi. They were priests who were supposed to have secret knowledge and powers, one of them being astrology. At one point I read that at one point Pythagoras was exiled from Greece and lived in Persia as the court philosopher for about 10 or 20 years. There he learnt from the Magi. Interestingly, the Magi were also the 3 wise men that followed a star to greet Jesus Christ.
If they had explained the Pythagorean theorem with the visual that you just did it would not have been so excruciating. Even though I could use the Pythagorean theorem before to solve problems, now I actually understand it thanks to your visual! Why is it so hard for textbooks to offer useful annotation? What a racket… Thanks for the videos, cheers!
For real? You'd never seen that? Well don't blame the textbook industry in general - just yours. Sounds like you got the worst math textbook in existence. You must live in Florida, where from what I'm hearing, the math books have little room left for diagrams after making way for discussions of Critical Race Theory. You're just lucky that your fearless leader / governor finally caught it. Foiled again!
the reason the Babylons didn't have claim to the theorem was because even though they knew the equation, they couldn't prove why it worked. It needs to be proven before it can be called a theorem
No, it was probably because the babylonians didn't know of pythagoras or Greece as a nation itself. The last of the Babylonians were the Neo-babylonians who were conquered some decades prior to pythagoras reaching to Babylon. And the babylonians probably did know about it and pythagoras probably learnt it from them. Its just that not a lot of their stuff survived.
I love how you fit “I love turtles” into the favorite number question. And yes, I know exactly where you got that from. But still, laughing my ass off!!!
ThoughtyTheSecond my main man the only dude in all of the RUclips world whos tremendous mustache compliments not only his knockout facial features but that accent mate i mean thats just 1 in 7 billion
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The weirdest cult in history. Now goes to...Trump and his followers.
Math is my favorite lesson
"Every triangle is a love triangle; when you love triangles" - Pythagoras
Ahahahaha this is comedy gold💯😂👌🏼
Fractal Energy!!!! I’m in loveee!!! 😌😍😍
@@kel8923 yikes
Yes
Quality Comment.
"We don't really know how Pythagoras escaped the Babylonians"
Well, duh: he used weapons of math destruction.
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good one
That's just YOUR angle!
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honestly - if teachers actually taught this before teaching the actual theorm, I would have been more interested in it.
FRR
damn right
If school worked with all the subjects in a sort of narrative structure, I'd have definitely done better, myself
We all like to think that, but in reality we would probably have done what we actually did in school, not give a fuck
Teachers are trained to suck the life out of kids.
"Here's what they didn't tell you in math class."
"Fasthosts in a UK based web hosting company...."
He’s technically not wrong
Pretty bad taste tbh
Really? I had no idea😬😆😂
@@Etobio true
He's a liar. I left school in 2003 and throughout my school life maths was all about fasthosts.
Never mess with the Pythagoreans, or your days are numbered.
I chuckled. Well done
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Thoughty just admitted to being a pythagorean. Better watch what you say around him!
“Being a demigod” is a strange way to say that your dad left
"A strange cult which worshiped numbers" Isn't that just mathematicians?
Indeed
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First thought that came to mind was numerology.
Not even remotely.
pythagoreans didnt "worship numbers" you utter morons
Q;What did the triangle say to the circle?
A;“You’re pointless.”
Q: What did the circle say back to the triangle?
A: "and you're still obtuse I see."
I still don't know if you should go to heaven or burn in hell for this comment :)
The circle replied I have infinite points.
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You're such a square 😆
THANK YOU!!!! As an Assyriologist who would like to spread the fact that contrary to common opinion, thinking and related things were not invented by the Greeks, you cannot imagine how much I appreciate you pointing out that the 'Pythagorean' a2 + b2 = c2 was in use for an awful long time in Babylonia before he "invented" it.
I would love it if you did an episode of Herodot, the man who wrote fantastical (as in, fantasy as a genre) travelogues and convinced the world he was a historian.
... Or as he is known in the Western world, Herodotus.
I’m an Assyriologist as well (also, an Egyptologist and Classical archaeologist). The Greeks learned a great deal from the great civilizations of Egypt, Mesopotamia, the wider Near East, and beyond - no doubt - but what they did with that knowledge is markedly different from anything that had gone before (and, arguably, since). In short, ‘sine Graecos, nihil’.
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thats not a commonly hold opinion
Pythagoreans: "all is number"
The computer running the simulation: "you're not wrong"
Once you say it's all a simulation the simulation begins to mess with you. Weirdest thing.
Example: driving to the in laws 4 hours away. Mention to my husband how it's weird we haven't seen any big rigs 3 hours into the trip. Usually it's just us and the big rigs. I prefer driving at night. But I was super lonely. It was the first week of June. So no holiday or anything.
5 minutes later we've got three behind us and two coming from the other direction.
Like it forgot to load them until I mentioned it.
I'm sure there's a logical psychological answer. But calling it all a simulation is more funny.
But the earth is still round.
@@aftersexhighfives The Earth is just a bunch of numbers- thus it truly is not round. But it's also not flat or whatever those creeps think it is.
Just like the unscientific and dangerous high age of consent laws. When most nations are under 18 for a reason, since puberty is puberty and life expectancy has gone up.
The brain fully develops at 25, not at 18. And age of consent is just very new and very flawed.
And actual p*do, which is attraction to prepubescent beings, is a medical condition, not an excuse to hurt people with barbaric systems. #GoVegan 💚
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Pathagoreans had a theory about a counter Earth on the other side of the sun.
Being exactly opposite of the Earth and blocked by the sun, we never saw it.
I always found the idea intriguing.
@@jesuslovesyou2616 if Jesus died for my sins, then my sins are already atoned for and therefore I have nothing to repent. So fuck off and stop pestering people, yeah?
@@crabguy34 the pope is obviously tripping then
There were reasons for disbelieving this for a long time. After we had the Mars Rover and other devices taking pictures of the Mars sky the issue should have been settled. Still, I have met people who still believe this absurdity.
"They also had to practice abstinence which, let's be honest, probably wasn't the biggest challenge of members of a mates cult!" Slayed me!
Best part of the video. Really got me too
Uh... That's just a typo, right? You do know that what he said was "maths cult", right?
(Btw - If you don't already know this then maybe it threw you - referring to the subject as "maths" is one of those annoying ways that the Brits f up their own language. My guess is that they hear it as being consistent with the whole word, "mathematics", which no one would leave the ess off of, right?)
@@guitarjunkie2065 😆 It auto-corrected "maths" to "mates" because even my phone knows that arithmetic shouldn't be referred to as "maths"!
But it's a Greek mate's cult which means it was actually harder to do than an intersex cult
Basically, Pythagoras invented the first Pyramiding scheme.
A Multi-Level Marketing business is just a Pyramid Sheme without the right angle.
Oho Math-jokes.
@@KamiRecca hehe
@@KamiRecca im stealing that
Amen
@@decker528 steal away, good thief
I don’t know why you all think Pythagoras is so weird, he seems like a perfectly normal modern day math teacher to me 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
"A fool is known by his speech; and a wise man by silence." - Pythagoras
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you a fool, than to open it and prove them right."
"Pythagoras; what is the meaning of life?"
"Ten."
Life has got ten different meanings.
@@bobbytookalook
This question is:
"-Why?"
@@2to253
The answer is:
"Ten."
Pretty sure it's 42
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i’ve heard him say words differently but “ya-hoo” took me out LMAO
Right! What the hell was that?
I knew I wasn’t the only one haha it sounded funny
I caught that haha
Immediately searched for this comment
Y'hoo
We had to study him in depth in Music University. His discoveries about math in music would have encouraged me to join his cult 😏
“First rule of Maths Club, Don’t talk about Maths Club”
classic lazy low iq utube comment. I mean seriously you should be embarrassed.
@@Ted-Stryker how can you get mad at movie-referencing RUclips comment lol.
@@Ted-Stryker sayin someone has a low iq then sayin utube and not youtube...derp...
Plus you must not have actually watched the video has 'thoughty2' said the line himself...double derp
@@texx07 Obviously a leftist to actually go after my choosing to use utube. Lol you people are so desperate.
@@Ted-Stryker im def NOT a leftist
Yep they definitely didn't tell me about fasthosts in math class
I'm so glad they taught me about Pythagoras theory instead of how to do my taxes, it comes in so handy during Pythagoras season.
@Charlie Bamford it was a joke😉 however the serious point could stand, I'm self employed and regularly make quotes for decking jobs or painting jobs, I've never since 1990 needed to use Pythagoras's theory, I do do my taxes every year and VAT 4x per year.
The closest that I've been would be when needing to produce boarders at exactly 90° to a property, for which there's a simple trick (which of course wasn't taught at school because that would be too useful).
@@jamesgrover2005 I think in Pythagoras theorem every day in traffic, lol. Figuring shorter routes and what not.
People do things differently... doesn't mean what you personally don't use is useless. I probably don't use a lot of things you consider important as well...
"When we eject our various bodily fluids, we lose part of our souls". Oh boy, now I know why I'm soulless.
"They also had to take a vow of celibacy, which, let's be honest, wasn't that much of a challenge to members of a math cult"
I guess that begs the question- what was the Math cult's weakness...
Multiplication.
Sorry, I am a dad.
@@mcdingus5081 Brill!
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@@mcdingus5081 no don't apologize that was hilarious
42 is just the best! You can't beat his way of storytelling with incredibly entertaining and accurate information.
I can't believe that no one gave your comment the praise it rightly deserves for its charming display of wisdom and subtle wit.
I thought it was important for you to know that there's at least one person out here that recognizes your genius.
Aaah, well...they say that no prophet is accepted in their hometown and that is surely the case here.
@@LoveChester4Ever you guys sound like a cult just saying
And a great sense of humour, to boot.
“Here’s what they didn’t tell you in math class… Fasthost is a UK-based…”
Absolutely right, Thoughty2, my math teacher never started shilling crap in the middle of a lesson.
That's what you think
@@theytboxingvoicemy teacher tried to sell me access to her onlyfans
Yes, they didn’t teach fast hosts in my mathematics class and I am proud of it
Oh! I made a similar joke...
I knew I should have read the comments first... :'(
@@toskar no problem dude
A young mathematician called Paul, invented the opthagonal ball, and the square of its weight times his bollocks times eight gave precisely the root of fuck all.
Sorry mum! I did it for a bet!
@@yashrajsingh305do yourself a favor and change your profile picture
@@Sir_Billions where do i know his pic from?
So his cult is basically the early version of University 🤷♂️
Yep
yep huge debt, weirdness everywhere, little bit of math, some weird guy behind a veil telling you, you can't pee where you want and where you can pee you don't want...
Just with less sex
@@beautyindarkness8146 calm down
This sounds like a decathlon frat
I'm American, living in South Africa, hearing wildly different accents everyday, and it still took me 3 rewinds to hear "Thoughty2" instead of "42".
3:00 Confirmed, my US math class taught me nothing about Fasthosts
Well this episode went off on a tangent.
Badumtiss!
The likes are on 42 now, let's keep it there!!
@@40g33k a tangent has nothing to do with pythagoras
@@Pope_Protein nice bait
@@Pope_Protein dont get triggernometry involed
The Pythagorean’s Cult, was no more Weird than the Monasteries from that time,
but it still doesn’t come close to being as WEIRD, as becoming a Scientologist, with the Church of Scientology !!!
I remember the Jonestown suicides very vividly. The pastor at our church happened to be named Jones, and he's been known as Jim ever since.
EeezAwlRitENgitaa?
I watched the documentary on it in high school. Good times.
Most of them were not suicides. Jones was a product of the see eye aye.
@@tierneylogan5943 wym?
@@tierneylogan5943 woah wut
Hippasus: Now you're just being obtuse.
Pythagoras: 🤔
Excellent!
4:36 solid Hitchhiker's reference. I dig it
Man I remember when thoughty2 wore suits and was the most underrated fact RUclipsr of all time
Same g
I miss the suit
Now he's a lumberjack and that's OK!
And he didn't have a caterpillar on his lip
Remember when thoughty2 was young and didn't have a majestic moustache
I find your speech patterns fascinating.
Some expressions sound like the Queens butler, others, like a dodgy builder.
It's called an affectation
@@kieronparr3403 Yeah, he should see a doctor about that.
Strangely his fashion sense is a perfect fusion of these two things
@@kieronparr3403 So, his Affection for the subject makes him pronounce the words differently?
@@jackdurden466 no that's rhotacism
😂 Life, the universe and everything with 42 in the background was a BRILLIANT easter egg
Crazy we associate a fundamental theorem with this guy he didn't even invent, instead of seeing him for the godfather of snake oil salesmen he truly was. History is truly something else.
It’s actually hard to pinpoint whether he actually just rediscovered it, regardless he did do a lot for mathematics with different discoveries. He definitely wasn’t a snake oil salesmen, he was intelligent but also weird
If you believe this made up work of fiction
Wrong
@@NoddinOff. define weird. Humans were way weirder.
History is full of attributing to people that which they did not create.
"Greeks had some really strange practices..."
*Romans:* Hold my wine cup, it's time for Lupercalia.
Then there was the weirdos who were the Norse...
lupercalia was cool
Mayans would like a word
As someone who majors in physics, I can absolutely assure you that you can do amazing things with triangles. I could see worshiping them.
"Step Inside the Weirdest Cult in History"
465K People: Sure, why not?
Hot take: Pythagoras made up his own life story, he hung out in Egypt for a while but didn’t do anything special. Once it looked like Persia was going to invade he just went back to his home town, never met the magi, and spun a convincing yarn about becoming a math wizard to become a cult leader. I don’t know a lot about math history, but I know cult leader bs when I hear it
I think he learned something from the Mystery Schools of Egypt and Babylon, mainly because he had a surface-level understanding of aspects of sun worship (which formed the foundation of the Mystery Religion), i.e. not peeing in the direction of the sun. He probably got kicked out of the Babylonian school by the Magi when they realized he was a huckster who would sell their secrets to the highest bidder, or something of the sort. Certainly his weird quirks were unfounded by critical thinking and if the practices of his cult represented some higher level symbolism, they were unique to only his cult (Egypt and Babylon shared many similar practices since Egypt supposedly derived its Mysteries from the Babylonians).
In essence, Pythagoras was the Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism) of the ancient world.
@@ChristAliveForevermore great comment!
One thing about cults I will never get... how do people even think that giving all they have is beneficial to anything? How weak minded do you have to be for someone to be able to control you like that. It's rather sad...
@@armageddon7376 because we all grow up in societies with taxes, employers, and landlords...we're giving away everything we work for from the day we're born to the day we die. Cults are attractive because the transaction seems to be more fair or equitable by the initiate's standards at the time. It offers the idea that all the stuff you're working for returns something into your life which is something most of society's options don't actually do. People get tired of being robbed by "legitimate" systems while feeling isolated and unappreciated. This is how cults work. It's not crazy. It's human. You are already part of several cults whether you want to admit it or not.
Ya well all cults are bs dude so what exactly is your special um ability here?
This cult is a perfect example of how dangerous a high amount of knowledge can be if you have very little wisdom to go along with it.
Have you done actual research into this so called Pythagoras cult?
It actually wasn't a cult..it was an initiatory school
@@stefos6431 that may well be, but it still meets the definition of a cult. There's a lot of cults nowadays, we have Greta thunberg's group, we have Stephen Hawking's group, Hunter Biden's group, and Xi Jinpings group. And those are just the popular ones.
@@Unmannedair No..the spin this RUclipsr gives it might but if you research it..it's not
Well put.
Which is better, having too much knowledge but little wisdom, or having too much Wisdom but little knowledge?
What the knowledge of dodecahedrons can do in the wrong hands:
fantasy role-playing games!
That’s exactly where my brain went lol
Ask the desolation of Mars what a Merkaba can do.
Thanks from a uneds
It's also looks similair to layout of implosion charges detonators of nucleat bomb.
NOOOOOOOO
2:05 Actually, although the ancient Mesopotamians/ Babylonions already were aware of the theorem, the Pythagoreans delivered the oldest known proof to the theorem. That's why his name is on the theorem.
If this is your full name, maybe your closer friends call you just y'. I assume you can gather all your company to sit at the one TABLE :-D
The ancient Chinese (circa 2000 BC) used the equation WAY before the Babylonians.
@@ozymandiaspbs Ancient Babylon was also circa 2000 BC.
The Greeks were masters of the elenctic method; nothing was beyond dispute for the Greeks, not even the existence of the Gods. Greek intellectual culture had a high regard for rhetoric and rigour, and it is this climate, absent in other mathematically advanced parts of the world like India, China and Egypt, which lead to the development of mathematical proofs. When Pythagoras heard of the theorem, either he or (one of) his followers devised the first proof for it, hence the name.
@Safwaan
It comes from Latin.
Our English language (as well as most of the languages that use the Latin/Roman Alphabet) evolved from Latin.
Somehow it frightens me:
Today, if you simulate a virtual reality, everything in it is, when reduced to computer coding, if broken down made of nothing but numerical combination consisting of the numbers 1 and 0 - both combined in the number 10.
Maybe Pythagoras and his buddies were the first to believe in a simulated reality (in a few years, maybe decades, virtual simulations could be so realistic that they would be so undistiguishible from reality that Pythagoras wouldn‘t have been all that wrong - considering people like to sit A LOT in digital media)
I guess Pythagoras and the boys were on to something. ;D
That’s an interesting new take on it. 10 is what computer coding is based on. And the amount of time spent on computers, in a way we’re worshipping it without realizing.
@@Nozarks1 Also there is already people that live in VR environments for most of their daily waking. Mostly in Japan if I recall correctly from the documentary I watched a few months ago.
Now its only about the performance of the hardware and the immersiveness of the simulated environment.
I dont think the sensory simulation is on par but if it one day becomes indistinguishable (no idea how to write that word btw) we could face issues like they were shown in the movie Inception where you dont even know whether you are in reality or simulation.
This of course is highly speculative and a very far reach from the content of this video.
the obligatory "Pythagoras was a Mathemagician" - he's one of my favorites.
"You know your city is poorly defenden when its flattened by the math's club."
*Awkwardly looks at Hiroshima and Nagasaki*
ok. ok. ok. that made me actually lol. tyvm
B R U H
@@AceMoonshot Glad i could entertain you, mate ^^
Lol, good one
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Wow you weren’t kidding about the weirdest cult. How you kept a straight face through this video is amazing.
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Amen
It's funny how a semi-triangle would be just another triangle.
ApolyBiosza!
You got a point
Three in fact
I always get a good laugh from your videos! 😂 Loved the Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy and Silence Of The Lambs references, I was cracking up! 🤣 You’re the only person I know who can make the weirdness of history fun and entertaining. Thanks! 😊
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I can't pay attention because of his magnificent moustache
same, this thing is mesmerising, put me back to the 80s watching "Magnum" with tom selleck .. oh shit...i wasted my childhood.... i dont like moustaches
@@hellveticchild3557 I understand you not liking moustaches, but come on, you know thoughts 2's moustache is on a whole other level
@@Epoch5427 elephants crocks and gorillas inhabit those bushes
@@Epoch5427 oh yes ,he has the talent to make them even cult. he looks ike a timetraveller from the past
Well, try watch some old content... He looks so damn creepy without it
I remember once reading in a maths textbook that Pythagoras was so baffled by the square root of 2 being irrational that it eventually killed him
i am a greek and i really enjoyed this video, i knew most of the stuff but learnt something new. also a tip everything in greek that ends in -oi is pronounced e not i so its mathimatike like the i e not the e e
You said his students (cultists) were judged on everything from their ability to think and concentrate to the way they laughed...I'm guessing the people he made into 'Listeners' were the ones he couldn't stand talking to or looking at. He didn't make them take a vow of silence and make them stay behind a curtain because it was more mysterious...he just didn't like them.
The PTSD from math class is coming back
Ptsd from 3d calculus combined electromagnetism equations
I spent my whole life thinking I was stupid because I was just not good at math, became an accountant and then learned that I had dyscalculia.(dyslexia but with numbers)
Thankfully I was gorked during my year of geometry. A TBI saved me from that.
@@boink8653 I have that as well!
@@samgray49it just changed my life when I found out !
i’ve been with thoughty2 since before he had a mustache and a significant amount of popularity, and he’s still one of youtube’s greatest characters🥺❤️
I like before I even watch the video. You’re easily my favorite RUclipsr/channel, just casually teaching me about damn near everything under the sun (and sometimes beyond it)! Keep it up Thoughty2 happy to see you getting so much deserved attention on your page
I had to take a second after binge watching thoughty2, I came to the realization that after 12 years since my graduation from highschool I was spending my free time educating myself again.
This might sound to you like "ya so what?"
Well...I was an all D/F student who absolutely hated school.
Is this what they meant when they said education is fun?
Because I thoroughly enjoy learning about all of this random stuff, stuff i know i would have hated learning about in school.
Maybe priorities shift with age.
Nah! It's Thoughty2's special attention to detail, calm voice and British accent that do it!!👍❤️
@@zombiasnow1565 that makes sense
@@Zephy_Sky , yeah, it may have been the _way_ you were being taught at school.
ie, badly, or not in a way that worked for you.
High School teachers in America were on average C students in High School themselves. I pity the younger generation, dealing with the kid's teachers is awfully frustrating. When I was a kid many of the older teachers were obviously A students. Think I only had one C throughout elementary and high school.
Or the school system sucks
In order to add yourself to this cult, you must subtract yourself from your worldly possessions. Once you join, the cult's members have multiplied, though they are divided from their friends and family.
Back when a "man cave" was literally a cave.
Which actually kinda terrible. No electricity, no running water, no air conditioner, nor heater, no internet connection, but the worst of all is... There's no porn and video games.
@@fajaradi1223 However, they obviously had tons of beer and wine. It almost cancels it all out.
@@mikitz nah. alKILLhol is involved in over 50% of rapes, 3 million deaths a year, over 200 health issues including but not limited to cancer, heavily addicting. Not a very good hard drug. I'll stick to cannabis and some other psychedelics. Also, tea is nice.
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked did you really just, completely unpromted and out of nowhere, go full libertarian? Yikes my dude.
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I love this guy, literally makes entertaining informational stuff, I never run out of interesting stuff to watch on this channel, it’s absolutely amazing, one of the brightest men on RUclips
I love the way you think he’s just a clever dude with all this knowledge and it just ends up in a RUclips video lol like it’s not an organised channel
@@dondamon4669 seriously bro
Being in the math club back then was like being on the football team. They were jocks not nerds in those days .
this is why we keep math teachers poor and with no influence.
Na, we just don't like them.
If you’re good at math you don’t teach it lol
But they can still give you bad grades. Trust me i saw things
@@Jiff321 Pythagoras taught it🤷🏼♂️
I'm just a peasant. My wife gave me a mobile device. I never watch her telly's. But finding Thoughty2 has to be a blessing. Thank you for your thoughts 😊👍✌️🙏
that's lovely, phil!
Very wholesome! Keep enjoying, youtube has so much information. We never have to stop learning 😊😎
Welcome to the internet!
@@rishikeshwagh 👍 Thanks!
I never had a favorite number. I recently realized that numbers don't mean anything but the value we give to them and every number seems to have some kind of meaning which makes all of them mean nothing.
"Here's what they didn't teach you in Maths class"
Answer: "So, fasthosts..."
jebaited
I taught it in algebra class. they were pretty interested for a few weeks afterwards.......
They also didn't teach the Brits to pronounce "math class" properly. The bastards probably count "sheeps" in their sleep as well.
yeah he had m confused there for a minute lol
@@mcdingus5081 Just because Americans don't say maths and cant spell colour, flavour or aluminium, don't take it out on us Brits. Obviously the founding fathers didn't take a dictionary with them
Side note: Croton, where Pythagoras spent the last part of his life, was a Greek colony founded in what is now the Calabria region in southern Italy. Pythagoras died in 495 BC, about 15 years after the founding of the Roman Republic, so Croton would have fallen to the Romans soon after his death [I'm not sure of the exact date].
Crows,weight,they're are croutons4renchSoupszzTsar
Soon...? 277 bc?
I'm not sure of the point.
Nice big salute to Thoughty2! Who's videos are educational, entertaining, and life wouldn't be as enlightened without..!!!
Arran: "What's your favourite number?"
Also Arran: "Heeeyyy...Forty-Two here..."
Arran's viewers: "We all know that's the only correct answer."
The answer is 42. What is the question?
@@CrazyBear65 We may never know; the computer built to discover that question was demolished by the Vogons to make way for a hyperspace bypass.
@@willmfrank I always have a towel.. but I thought 42 was the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything. -Death
CiLizWallRuce
@Will Frank So I am not the only one that hears it..!
Me: Okay, so I have completed my homework. Let me just relax a bit.
Thoughty2: *Phythagores Theorem*
UZikFeeeschhhhhh
😂😂
I appreciate the fact that you put 42 in this RUclips episode. I have been waiting for this every time you mention your channel name!
Physics and mathematics are the two greatest achievements of the human intellect
Up there with walking and language
I agree
What about minecraft
I think discovery of cooked food, and hentai takes the crown.
i thought it was pizza
Modern cultists : 2+2=5
That’s not a real 5
😂
That's modern calculus... Lol... Cults be like 1+1= a window... Draw it out and u will see I'm correct
Checks out for me
Well of course, Johnathan, Because that's a accurate answer
Thoughty2 is setting a REALLY high new bar for history teachers all over the world. Yes, they all should wear suspenders now, and have majestic moustaches.
I 100% agree with this
The magi simply were zoroastrian priests, not necessarily astrologists. They could be both things (sure many were), but the term refers to this.
Weren’t the Magi pronounced as Magic without the C at the end? Like Maj-eye? I could be wrong, never studied this area, mathematics is about as foreign to me as Sumerian.
@@jackdurden466 I think you are right. I have no clue about how ancent persian sounds like, but magi as in the video sounds like an anglicized pronunciation of the word (particularly the last vowel) and not how it is in most languages.
@@jackdurden466
Ancient Persians would have pronounced the singular form something like
Mahgoosh
But I am not sure about the plural form in ancient Persian
Ancient Greeks used magos for singular and magoi for plural
Ancient Romans had magus for singular and they would have pronounced magi more like
Maggie
Except that the a would be pronounced more like the a in father
In medieval Latin the pronunciation of g started to change and that is why we pronounce the word magic like we do
So in medieval Latin magi would be pronounced like magic without the c
In modern English there was a vowel shift and that is why 42 pronounces it
May jigh
It would have been easier to explain all this in ancient Latin or Greek but no one would have understood what I would have written
@@jackdurden466 I believe it's pronounced mauh-gi
I’ve heard that the word magic comes from the magi. They were priests who were supposed to have secret knowledge and powers, one of them being astrology. At one point I read that at one point Pythagoras was exiled from Greece and lived in Persia as the court philosopher for about 10 or 20 years. There he learnt from the Magi. Interestingly, the Magi were also the 3 wise men that followed a star to greet Jesus Christ.
when thoughty2 turns 42 we need to have a huge party
Hen(en dollars bill JawzBoosche?)!
“There are only 10 types of people in this world; those who understand binary and those who don’t” - Pythagoras
original title: Step Inside the Weirdest Cult in History
I'm familiar with the frequent title changes. Is it an inside joke or is it just for clicks? Do we even know.
Likely it won't last
@@jes7574 algorithm stuff
I'm curios what the new title's gonna be. "Meet the people who worshiped numbers" or something like that perhaps.
He does it so people who have already watched it might come across it again in the near future and think its a new vid and click it
Me: spins out for a moment and thinks Pythagoras started up 'fasthosts'
I need sleep okay.
The first rule of Triangle Club is you do not talk about Triangle Club…well, for five years.
I can relate to the TV volume thing, but for me, I like to do multiples of 5.
20 and 25 are my usual go-to's
-First Pythagoras tbeorem: never talk of theorems.
Aha! 😏
NoGasBeZoomz
that random moment when some of the stuff you’ve been thinking about for the last few months aligns almost perfectly with pythagoreans 😳
My maths teacher likes odd numbers, whenever he gives me homework if it the exercises are an even number he gives me one more just for the hell of it.
Why not minus one
I cannot add up odd numbers…………😫……… WHAT is wrong with meeeeEE.? 🤪😂
@@Fuzzmo147 you’re an ambi-adder
@@Taurineg Is that the proper name for it ?
Lmbo…which ones have the answers in the back of the textbook….odds or evens?
Pythagoras: Ten is the perfect number.
Bo Derek: Works for me.
You must be OLD.
I'll hav half
Hello, Thank you for your witty and informative videos. I am hooked by your presentation, intelect and personality. Love your channel. Xx
If they had explained the Pythagorean theorem with the visual that you just did it would not have been so excruciating. Even though I could use the Pythagorean theorem before to solve problems, now I actually understand it thanks to your visual! Why is it so hard for textbooks to offer useful annotation? What a racket… Thanks for the videos, cheers!
For real? You'd never seen that? Well don't blame the textbook industry in general - just yours. Sounds like you got the worst math textbook in existence. You must live in Florida, where from what I'm hearing, the math books have little room left for diagrams after making way for discussions of Critical Race Theory. You're just lucky that your fearless leader / governor finally caught it. Foiled again!
This guy has to be the most consistent and interesting RUclipsr to date!
... gotta hand it to you, this is the best setup for the sponsor of the day I have ever seen.
16:20 That's a whole new level of nerd rage.
Plus,right,cantMugawffBlooPEtarzWinDoughzA10dedFing?!
“I, the Evil Math Magician, shall capture all the children, and FORCE them to do homework forever!!”
“Weaponised Maths”. Has gotta be one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard 😂😩
the reason the Babylons didn't have claim to the theorem was because even though they knew the equation, they couldn't prove why it worked. It needs to be proven before it can be called a theorem
Ziggurats? Just saying😙
No, it was probably because the babylonians didn't know of pythagoras or Greece as a nation itself. The last of the Babylonians were the Neo-babylonians who were conquered some decades prior to pythagoras reaching to Babylon. And the babylonians probably did know about it and pythagoras probably learnt it from them. Its just that not a lot of their stuff survived.
He was the first who did
It’s because a white dude has to show other white people in their own language for white people to accept it.
Giant ancient pyramids in Africa???? Holy fuck there’s aliens! - a bunch of white guys
I love how you fit “I love turtles” into the favorite number question. And yes, I know exactly where you got that from. But still, laughing my ass off!!!
ThoughtyTheSecond my main man the only dude in all of the RUclips world whos tremendous mustache compliments not only his knockout facial features but that accent mate i mean thats just 1 in 7 billion
Literally just watched a video regarding a cult in Japan and you released this.... genuinely spooked
They certainly didn’t tell me about Fasthosts in mathclass, thanks!
One of my all time favorite Thoughty2 videos.