Mozart: Sonata for two fortepianos, K 448. Lubimov, Martynov.

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @juanjose4264
    @juanjose4264 5 лет назад +68

    best piano rendition i've ever heard of Mozart... People seem to be so careful and tend to play this music much softer..almost like they are scared of it..
    . this is different

    • @jaredbebee630
      @jaredbebee630 3 года назад +11

      the forte piano is a much better instrument in my opinion

    • @SD-fp8ei
      @SD-fp8ei 3 года назад +1

      Spot on! Best rendition ever!

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 2 года назад

      @@jaredbebee630 the pianos that JSB approved would have been fortepiano too (following the earliest prototype)

  • @musicalperson17
    @musicalperson17 3 года назад +11

    love this on fortepiano, the percussive quality adds so much intricacy between the two parts

  • @noblekime5912
    @noblekime5912 6 лет назад +63

    It sounds so much better on the fortepiano . . . no way around it.

    • @suic86
      @suic86 5 лет назад +7

      I completely agree!

    • @antoniolorenzoni4617
      @antoniolorenzoni4617 3 года назад +1

      ancora meglio sul cembalo

    • @nt1448
      @nt1448 4 месяца назад +2

      also the interpreters here play it like they're late for the train! which is awesome.

  • @nickspruytenburg1230
    @nickspruytenburg1230 4 года назад +20

    As I thought, so much better than with grand pianos. There's an original delicacy and gaiety about this piece which is so precious.

  • @michaelrusso1841
    @michaelrusso1841 7 лет назад +13

    Mozart isn't one of my favorite composers, but I must say... I actually enjoy this piece very much. Grazie Muzikay.

  • @popnocturne7909
    @popnocturne7909 6 лет назад +12

    That slow movement....heavenly!

  • @voxveritatis3815
    @voxveritatis3815 5 лет назад +9

    The modulations at 21:32 oh God....exquisite....clever....perfectly accomplished.

  • @MaxwellKaye
    @MaxwellKaye 7 лет назад +54

    Just when I thought Mozart couldn't get any better.

    • @quite1enough
      @quite1enough 6 лет назад +5

      check also Levin & Frager performance

    • @timefortea1931
      @timefortea1931 6 лет назад +9

      Mozart is musical perfection, especially on period instruments!

  • @MusicShin작곡
    @MusicShin작곡 3 месяца назад +1

    Genius music,,,this is how the genius intro needs to sound like

  • @channanwillner9663
    @channanwillner9663 3 года назад +6

    Superior performance....

  • @donaldgoodell7675
    @donaldgoodell7675 4 года назад +13

    Mozart compos’d this beautiful Sonata for two klaviers in D in 1780 (K. 375a, Old K. 448) probably originally for himself and his sister Nannerl to play in Salzburg before his final break with the Archbishop in May of 1781; he himself perform’d it (along with K. 365, also from 1780) with harpsichordist / pianist Josepha Barbara Auernhammer, an ‘overweight, ugly & gap-tooth’d’ but musically gifted klavier-pupil of Richter & Kozeluch (& with Mozart after his break with Salzburg in 1781) on 23rd November 1781 (also at public soirées in 1782 & 1783) and shews all the gusto & energy of a young composer ready to leap-out and make his own way in the world; Mozart’s father had after 22 March 1773 turn’d to selling klaviers out of his new ‘Dancing Master’s House’ (to-day the now-restor’d Nr. 8 Marketplatz in Salzburg) so double-klavier sonatas like these could easily have been perform’d in Leopold’s salon...even as advertising for his instruments for sale...

  • @timefortea1931
    @timefortea1931 6 лет назад +6

    This sonata is just beautiful, love it!

  • @RayMond777
    @RayMond777 2 года назад +1

    Its scary how good this performance is

  • @ladsteel7672
    @ladsteel7672 4 года назад +5

    Music Perfection Geniale ⭐ Mozart 🇦🇹 The Legend,🇦🇹❤️🎶🎹Number 1️⃣🇦🇹⭐🏆🎹🎵🔔🎼🎉🎻🍾🇦🇹🎻

  • @ladsteel7672
    @ladsteel7672 4 года назад +3

    GeniuS ⭐🇦🇹 Beatiful The Best of MOZART,🇦🇹❤️🎹🎶🎉🎼🎻🎹🎵

  • @quite1enough
    @quite1enough 6 лет назад +5

    You can also find Levin and Frager performance on youtube of K 448, period instruments as well

  • @hussainsaibo9692
    @hussainsaibo9692 Год назад

    to be heard and enjoyed again !

  • @yourdo11y
    @yourdo11y 6 месяцев назад

    this is the original. fortepiano.......... rings my soul

  • @comic4relief
    @comic4relief 4 года назад +6

    Nice video except for the loud facebook ad out of nowhere during the middle movement.

  • @henrikpettersson2886
    @henrikpettersson2886 3 года назад +4

    This was great. :)

  • @ShirleyKirsten
    @ShirleyKirsten 6 лет назад +3

    Engaging and musical performance.

  • @2951969
    @2951969 4 года назад +6

    Este es un Mozart diferente, un Mozart talvez un poco hiperventilado, brillante como todas sus obras pero diferente. Es raro que esta pieza sea considerada una de las dos obras ideales para los niños (efecto Mozart)

  • @senorital.5806
    @senorital.5806 2 года назад +1

    Suena excelente 🥰🥰🥰😘😍

  • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
    @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 6 лет назад +40

    In a lot of ways, the fortepiano sounds better than the pianoforte.

    • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
      @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 6 лет назад +7

      The fortepiano sounds more bright and clear while the pianoforte sounds more soft and muffled.

    • @MaxwellKaye
      @MaxwellKaye 6 лет назад +2

      I'm pretty sure they're the same instrument, unless you're referring to the modern piano as the pianoforte.

    • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
      @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 6 лет назад +4

      Maxwell Kaye There are more differences. For example, the pianoforte has 88 keys while the fortepiano has the range of a harpsichord.

    • @MaxwellKaye
      @MaxwellKaye 6 лет назад +4

      Okay, so you're talking about the modern piano. I was confused at first.

    • @timefortea1931
      @timefortea1931 6 лет назад +1

      Totally! For the music written on fortepianos, fortepianos reign supreme!

  • @duncanmckeown1292
    @duncanmckeown1292 Год назад

    Always think that this piece sounds better on two fortepianos...especially when played with as much gusto as this pair do!

  • @JAOrtizCompositor
    @JAOrtizCompositor 6 лет назад +5

    1:28 ♥️

  • @川口健太郎-l1b
    @川口健太郎-l1b 7 лет назад +1

    モーツァルトは、この音色で作ったんだ
    フォルテピアノ版を聴いたことがなかった
    まだ現代のピアノがなかった時代の作品

  • @suuri_toukeigaku_channel
    @suuri_toukeigaku_channel 7 лет назад +7

    I'm practicing this tune now, but I can't play the first important phrase of trill, and the all the play is messed up...

    • @paulheffron4836
      @paulheffron4836 6 лет назад +3

      Just keep practicing at a very slow tempo and gradually increase the tempo and as your finger muscles master the movements you'll find yourself able to play it.

  • @madaboutvoice
    @madaboutvoice 4 года назад +8

    Thanks for posting. The painting is of Wolfgang and his sister, Maria Anna, I presume?

    • @jesuelalinsunurin777
      @jesuelalinsunurin777 4 года назад +1

      It is actually Wolfgang Amadeus Nanerl Mozart's older sister

    • @MrFirefox411
      @MrFirefox411 4 года назад +1

      @@jesuelalinsunurin777 Maria Anna is Mozart's sister's name! Nannerl is her nickname!

    • @jesuelalinsunurin777
      @jesuelalinsunurin777 4 года назад

      @@MrFirefox411 oh I completely forgot history class thx for the correction I guess

    • @jesuelalinsunurin777
      @jesuelalinsunurin777 4 года назад

      it is actually nannerl its Leopold's wife name I reasearched

    • @madaboutvoice
      @madaboutvoice 4 года назад

      @@jesuelalinsunurin777Oh, OK, let's forget about the issue with the names, you're now saying it is his mother, not his sister in the painting?

  • @JAOrtizCompositor
    @JAOrtizCompositor 6 лет назад +2

    1:37

  • @rodolfohuerta7022
    @rodolfohuerta7022 7 лет назад +1

    I could say this painting shows Mozart and his sister and father Leopold Mozart using their instruments after his mother died...

    • @psalm2764
      @psalm2764 2 года назад

      There are few portraits of the real Mozart. He was not a jew and he did not look like one.

    • @jackminto7062
      @jackminto7062 2 года назад +1

      @@psalm2764 ...

    • @psalm2764
      @psalm2764 2 года назад

      @@jackminto7062 Hi Jack. Lots of subterfuge and flat-out lies surrounding Mozart.

  • @EFVink
    @EFVink 3 года назад +1

    Is this performance also available on CD?

  • @jean-jacquesfabretti4459
    @jean-jacquesfabretti4459 2 года назад

    Bonjour, sur quel diapason sont accordés ces pianoforte : La 440 Hz, naturel 432, Mozart 422 ? Merci Hello, What pitch are these fortepianos tuned to: A 440 Hz, natural 432, Mozart 422? Thank you

  • @chris93703
    @chris93703 5 лет назад +1

    Does anyone know what year the fortepianos are from in this recording?

    • @seoulstn
      @seoulstn 5 лет назад +3

      Fortepiano of ca. 1785 and
      Fortepiano of c.1790

    • @amitmarkel
      @amitmarkel 3 года назад

      Possibly a Stein and Walter

  • @DavidDartley
    @DavidDartley 6 лет назад

    Anyone know of recordings of this piece (on pianoforte or fortepiano) that's at least slightly slower in tempo?

    • @OccyDaBoss
      @OccyDaBoss 3 года назад

      i've heard this a bit faster than this, but i mean each to their own

  • @suuri_toukeigaku_channel
    @suuri_toukeigaku_channel 7 лет назад +1

    is this spinet?the key is not D major

    • @Muzikay
      @Muzikay  7 лет назад +1

      アッカーマンミカサ no, it's a fortepiano (early piano). It plays at a somewhat lower pitch than the modern piano.

    • @suuri_toukeigaku_channel
      @suuri_toukeigaku_channel 7 лет назад

      Muzikay
      Oh, I just thought they hadn't had piano yet at that time.
      I always wonder why they often play early music in lower pitch.

    • @Ekvitarius
      @Ekvitarius 6 лет назад +1

      The pitch wasn't really standardized in those days, but in Germany it this time it was close to a half step below modern pitch.

  • @daniel3231995
    @daniel3231995 6 лет назад +4

    fortepiano>harpsichord

  • @andreagriseri7656
    @andreagriseri7656 3 года назад

    Full of energy but the tempo isn't too much fast?

  • @math11235
    @math11235 3 года назад +1

    in my opinion, this performance is a bit too fast.

  • @SoggySandwich80
    @SoggySandwich80 3 года назад +3

    Who is this other person, looks like Mozart in 1700s drag lmao

    • @xy6845
      @xy6845 2 года назад +2

      It's his sister

  • @jeanpierredevos3137
    @jeanpierredevos3137 5 лет назад

    Absolutely horrible in my personal opinion. Thank god for a modern grand piano. The ensemble playing is gone. It is one big mixture of notes hard to hear who plays what most of the time. And wen played loud the tone fals dead. A lot of the beautiful phrasing is inpossible to play on these instruments. Amazing that Mozart had this instrument in his ear when he composed this marvelous masterpiece. He must have foreseen that the instruments would be better in the future.

    • @Kris9kris
      @Kris9kris 4 года назад +19

      The notion that certain composers had modern instruments in mind when composing their pieces is a wild extrapolation, a conjecture, nothing more. Especially at a time when Cristofori’s invention was still a relatively new thing. Harpsichords were very much in evidence until the early 1810s, that’s why Beethoven had to give the epithet “Hammerklavier” for his Op. 106. Mozart was more than happy with Stein’s instruments as obvious from his letter to his father describing it in great detail. People say the same thing about Bach but we know that he didn’t like Frederick the Great’s fortepiano and went on record saying “it wasn’t his thing”. I would argue that a fortepiano is actually more distinct in its production of sound than a modern grand because the resonance chamber is smaller, and it’s less jangly, not as muddled with overtones. It’s like we mixed a harpsichord, a guitar and a pianoforte together: when used wisely, it’s beautiful.

    • @laurahelenaxou1834
      @laurahelenaxou1834 4 года назад +13

      GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! 😬😬😬 These fortepianos sound a lot better and sweeter than the modern oversharpened crap 😬😬😬, plus, they sound very similar to Mozart's own fortepiano!!! I hate dumb pianists that insist on playing (killing) Bach's (and other's) works on modern pianos, they can play masterfully and have a badass technique and interpretation, but they are playing it on the wrong instrument, and it sounds awful, displaced... Modern pianos are great for some pieces, (although they are oversharpened/overtuned and the "official pattern" should have been revised to 430Hz), but try to imagine "Clair de Lune" played on a fortepiano or harpsichord, it would sound awful and displaced, did you get my point?? There are pieces that sound a lot better on original instruments, this one is an example... 😉

    • @laurahelenaxou1834
      @laurahelenaxou1834 4 года назад +5

      @@seoulstn Yes!!! The ancient instruments have a lot more expression, timbre and accent, they are colorful in a so special way, specially on the bass sounds, they vibrate so beautifully, a modern grand piano has distorted and ugly bass notes, it hurts our ears, instead, the fortepiano has delightful bass notes that contrast and highlight a lot better and sweeter, it produces enjoyable to hear bass notes!!! 😊

    • @95tupolev
      @95tupolev 4 года назад +1

      @@seoulstn Not helped by the boring, equal tempered tuning.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 4 года назад +1

      I like the versions on period instruments much more on these kind of works, I think that although soloists or ensembles want to play these pieces on modern instruments, they should play at 430 hz or 432 hz to make it sound more natural, and they should study about the instruments of this period and the way of playing at that time. Mozart probably would have loved modern pianos, as they had widht for more keys, and would have played them without any problem, perhaps Bach, Beethoven, Schubert or Weber would have just loved to hear their works on modern instruments (But keeping the original style of playing it, instead of making it sound too mechanical).

  • @mikecadigan6412
    @mikecadigan6412 11 месяцев назад

    RED LIGHT SHARPIE MARKER
    YELLOW LIGHT SHARPIE MARKER
    GREEN LIGHT SHARPIE MARKER

  • @mikecadigan6412
    @mikecadigan6412 11 месяцев назад

    SUNDAY MARCH 1 2015
    WEDNESDAY APRIL 1 2015
    FRIDAY MAY 1 2015
    MONDAY JUNE 1 2015

  • @mikecadigan6412
    @mikecadigan6412 11 месяцев назад

    NORTH
    EAST
    SOUTH
    WEST

  • @flayuhat
    @flayuhat 7 лет назад +11

    Allegro con spirito 0:07
    Andante 10:59
    Molto allegro 20:43