ORPHAN FIRST KILL (2022) Ending Explained
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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In the prequel Orphan First Kill, we follow "Esther" as she first orchestrates an escape from an Estonian psychiatric facility, and then travels to America by impersonating the missing daughter of a wealthy family. We're breaking down Esther's latest murderous adventures, including some easter eggs for the original, as well as explaining the big twist and ending.
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Found it odd the characters expected a child who was supposedly kidnapped at age 6 for four years to remember so many details about her old life.
Some children remember. I remember things from when I was around 3 or 4 I guess it depends on how developed the child is. But also if your child is that young and has gone there such traumatic events then I could see how you would not remember much.
Yeah I did too. And more so that they thought it was weird when she liked new things like painting. Ages 6 to 10 I would think a kid would have new interests.
The same thing I said. 😂😂 even though I knew she was faking, it still made no sense. I think it was written that way to point out the differences, but we would’ve understood that anyway.
@@maddieb2512 y’all better than me I don’t remember much about my childhood but do like listening stories about it doe
I was thinking that too!!
Julia Stiles really snapped with her role. They had me with that twist and I was low-key rooting for Leena. I still think the first one was better but this was a good prequel
Julia Stiles playing such a dark character is wonderful to see. I definitely was shocked when she shot and killed the cop. Now the brother I was suspicious of from the beginning just didn’t know he liked his sister right away.
For real life
He liked his sister right away.
The only thing I would have changed is I wouldn't have had Leena expose herself at the end, I would have had Allen die thinking that his wife was responsible for Gunnar's death and she tried to do the same to "Esther"
@@Rubysoho907 That honestly would've been so much darker tbh.
The woman playing Esther is an amazing actress fr. Was scared of her on the first orphan movie and still scared now. Great job explaining as always Foundflix!
She was scary in the first one but not so much in this one
I personally think they shd give her the same powers of Jason or Michael Myers so she can be indestructible n keep coming back for 10 more sequels! 😂🤣
@@QGUAP It’s cuz she’s the one we’re rooting for in this one lol she’s an Angel compared to the psychopaths she managed to trick
@@kentong2033 as long as they make great prequels idm haha
ooi. shes in the first hunger games too i think. also report that coment of the give away
Honestly, I feel awful for the father; he was the only one in that family who wasn't a monster (aside from the real Esther).
Yup☹️
Yeah his death was hard to watch
He certainly was the biggest loser in this movie.
Same. He was the only decent person in the whole movie.
Yeah
I was laughing to myself for most of the movie because of ALL the families Esther could’ve picked to try and con herself into, she just HAD to unknowingly pick the worst possible family 😂
Yeah I was like what if something like this happend, bad guys going into a bad house or something, still good and didn't expect but funny 😅
For real life that is so awesome
When she was being kinda weird with her on the plane I said I was on Esther's side now. When the twist hit, I was so shocked but felt vindicated.
Well she didn't know.
Reminded me of the documentary The Imposter, such a strange real life case. That guy was obviously NOT the missing child, yet the family took him right in. Quite suspicious if you ask me.
I was pretty sure there was something up with Tricia when she didn't immediately take her kid who had been apparently human trafficked for the last 4 years to a medical doctor for a physical.
It was such a great, subtle performance of tightly wound waspishness until the reveal and look I need more Evil Julia Stiles in my life.
this! and the way her brother looked her up and down with first a smirk then a scowl.
Yeah, the only thing my mom did point out was, the first thing they would most DEFINITELY do in that situation is..actually confirm that she is the same girl/from those parents
But yes omg. Julia was so amazing and hilarious in this
Yeah plus any mother would know this wasn't her child
This! Because when they were on the plane and the mom put her headphones in, I was like does she not want to talk to her daughter who had been missing for 4 YEARS???? Then when the brother threw a party when he was supposed to watch her, I was like why is he acting this way? 😂😂 makes complete sense now.
@@Chrysyyyy also when Tricia is showing Esther the pictures I was confused because after 4 years like maybe Gunnar would have changed in appearance drastically, but Tricia was coaching her! Which was why she brought up the grandmother!
So good! I somehow missed it the first time!
It's amazing you can see how much she improved with acting. It's like a evolution chart. I mean even when she was a kid she was an amazing actress. It's just cool watching how her acting skills evolved over the years. I personally think she is VERY underrated. I hope this movie brings her the opportunities that she really does deserve.
My favorite actress ❤️ I had fan accounts of her 😂❤️
Well In the first movie the actress was 12 or 13
fr
@@xlunadivinerx1585 no she wasn’t lmao please look it up
@@lisalarsen2384 Who? Isabelle Fuhrman?
I went into this movie thinking I knew exactly what it was going to be, but man was I wrong! I loved the twist, too.
Same. My wife and I were excited to watch the film, but soon we thought we could guess what the story was going rot be (A rehash of the first film) and were ready to be bored and then it took that turn and we loved it.
Right
Same. I could tell by the trailer that she was going to take on the identity of a missing child but didn't see the twist coming with the mum going along with idea and the brother actually being responsible for what happened to the real Esther
I did the same and the twist was SO good with how horror movies are now a days I was pleasantly surprised with this movie. Definitely worth watching.
Same, love the recent twist in horror movies of having the family the killer's stalking be just as fucked up or worse.
I'm genuinely impressed that not only did they manage to make a prequel that didn't suck, it was solidly written all around! (And very surprised and glad they didn't go hard on the "daddy" fixation, given that se/prequels tend to dial up the number somehow)
Yeah that’s a really good observation
When the twist happened my jaw hit the floor. I rarely get got and damn did they get me. Definitely made the movie a super fun watching experience. Flipped the whole thing on its head.
What twist?
@@AchiragChiragg did you watch the movie lol? Dumb question if you did.
@@blueeyes666 I just watched this recap. And just realised it's the mom and brother being killers themselves is the twist.
@@AchiragChiragg thanks for spoiling 🙄😑
@@bloxbread6656 why you reading the comments before watching the video.
It could have so easily been a repeat of the first movie, but I'm so glad they went with the unique idea of having the family also be killers keeping up the charade!
The classism doesn't fall flat to me, it's the dream of every horror lover: two evils battle out. Ester doesn't care who she steps on for freedom she doesn't deserve, and her new family sacrifices everything in the name of status (pretty much their family, humanity, and sanity)
Wasnt it cannon "ester" was tortured and raped by her real dad thats why shes stuck like a child? I would say she does deserve freedom, at least after shes mentally cured so to speak
@@digital_bf It's not canon necessarily. It was written out of the first movie, but they don't mention once here, even though that would and should be in her file. Just because it was the writer's original plan, doesn't make it canon. It would be if this is a trilogy of prequels, instead of sequels, and they go even further back in another movie, they probably couldn't avoid it then. For now, it's still debatable.
Yeah, things get interesting to me, when evil battles itself.
Except the dad.
The twist is based losely on the stranger than fiction real life events of a French con man impersonating a missing American boy and the American family strangely not asking many questions or fully embracing him either....and the con being pretty obvious to more than a casual look.
Look at the documentry movie "The Imposter".
Was looking for this comment!!
I think the family is based on a theory about Jon Benet Ramsey, there is a major theory that her brother killed her by accident and the mom helped cover it up, terrified to lose him too.
@@user-tu1jb3yl2c sure, but I was talking about the twist of a fake person replacing the missing (dead) child and the family going along with it because it helps them cover up the truth.
sus
I noticed that too. I always thought they took their son's life and accepted the imposter as a cover-up.
I think that the fact she looks older in this makes sense in universe too, since she hasn’t “perfected” her con of looking younger
Ooooh, I haven’t thought of it like that before but I actually really like that way of thinking
The twist really made you root for the psychotic homicidal dwarf which is something I never thought I’d say
Tbh i always rooted for her
No I was hoping she died, trying to make her the hero in the end was dumb
HAHA
@@hermanmunster22you one twisted mfker then
@@ck8579 yup
Gunner's death scene was so satisfying, this movie had me rooting for Esther lol
Yeah he was hell of annoying how he harrass her n call her freak even though she know how dangerous she is
That kid was so gross
I might have missed it. But how did he kill his real sister
@@s.r6331 probably her neck get snapped happens a lot
@@s.r6331 probably how Ezra killed his sister in "We need to talk about Kevin" or via fencing
This movie had me rooting for Lena/Esther, the mom and son had it coming lol
Same! Although lena was fucked up but she had the right this time
No don’t let Leena off that easy. She still evil for what she did to Danny and Max , and Sister Abigail, John. And all the other people she killed
Yeah I rooted for her but was son conflicted, lol!
I want the son to die gruesomely I just wish it was drawn out more. And maybe we had a flashback about that fateful night with him and his sister.
When your son is more fucked up than the escaped mental patient
I really enjoyed this movie and was definitely shocked by the twist. I hope there's a third film made and I hope it even goes full "leprechaun" with the franchise.
When you say “full Leprechaun” do you mean retcon?
you meant going to space?
Es leprechaun… heck no. The franchise actually did good with this movie. Leprechaun would be a whole mistake.
Lol yes! Orphan in the Hood!
A friend with weed is a friend indeed
I haven't seen either of the film's but I'm oddly rooting for the character even though I know what she's done. To be fair, she is one of my favourite actresses as she was in the hunger games, is a similar age to me and my favourite genre of horror is when psychology is used to navigate fucked up scenarios. The actress herself is completely underrated so I'm really happy and excited that this prequel has come out
1st. One is creepy af...
This was definitely a interesting prequel it wasn't bad by any means
I think Julia stiles nailed her role
The twist definitely caught me off guard I would say it was a pretty good overall movie &would recommend it!
Thank u, because ol girl looked familiar to me and even when I watched the movie I had forgotten to look at the credits to see who she was, also......sometimes Candy Crush is very hard to look up from when ur getting some really good moves? 😂
I noticed they styled her to make her look more like the child "Esther" was impersonating, even styling her hair similarly to Esther at one point.
It was STUPID! Thank god it failed. Also if the boy killed his sister he knew that Esther wasnt real 🤦♀️
@@womendontneedmen5071 I wouldn’t say it failed whatsoever it’s gotten a lot of positive reviews, and no shit the brother knew did you even watch the movie? What’s your point lmao. Oh I see you’re a shitty troll you leave comments on every video rofl what a dweeb. Go outside there’s more to the world than your parents basement
@@womendontneedmen5071 I don't think you paid attention. He did know. His dialogue when confronting Esther is literally "thank god i don't have to pretend like you're my sister anymore" the mother and the son were in on it all along as well because they didn't want authorities to be tipped off anymore (also the cops already had their suspicions on the mother hence the scene with the detective dying and saying she knows you're not her daughter)
Watching this made it really hard for me who to root for😭😭😂😂 like i knew Esther was crazy and a murderer. But watching the mom and Gunner(who names their kid that?) And knowing what they did to the real Esther and how fucking batshit crazy they also were i wanted both teams to win and die ! The plot twist really made me gasp and scream "WHAT?" It was so shocking i honestly really liked this movie
You'd be surprised actually how many parents name their kid Gunner. It's a Scandinavian name meaning warrior.
Well hoping Ester would have won cuz you know, its easier to had the one thats dethatched from all this. The mom and gunner tho just abhorrent people. Also like its very easy to hate arrogant rich people
My dad named me that thank you very much.
@@SirNerdicus Wear it with pride Sir
They were so insufferable that they had me rooting for Esther lmao
I think I would really like to see a third movie in which "Esther" changes her ways. Not in a good way, of course.
I want to see her realize men don't usually like "kids" that kill their families, and instead completely break the next family mentally. To the point where the families father maybe actually stays with her after everything, being nothing but a shell at this point.
A "happy ending" for "Esther", and only her
she's dead
@@Mega174 yeah to bad, this would make a great polt
too bad leena is dead. but i would love an origin story of her life before she gone crazy.
@@taeso0o I thought she lived cause at the end u see her alive just with all the cuts on her face
No I liked the idea from the twist.
A fitting punishment for a serial killer like Leena/Esther was being trapped into a family where she can't escape, she has to pretend to be their perfect child forever.
It was the first time we truly saw her miserable and it felt just.
I was also pretty surprised they were able to so well make "Esther" look so young!
Tbh she does look older, especially if you see the original movie right before this. And there are shots where the age is showing. But there are also shots when she does look very young and to be that fake young teen that is actually 30 - this looks perfectly.
@@mjm3091 I can look past her looking a bit older in this because at this point we already know the twist from the original movie.
@@mjm3091 they waited to long to do a prequel
The fact that even Orphan (which I think is great) got a sequel tells me we truly live in the "anything is possible" era of filmmaking. Now I'm waiting on the sequel to Dredd!
No its a good solo movie
prequel*
They did a mistake. They showed that she killed a family before this one... The actress will be too old to play a version of herself even younger than this one...
Wow. Isabelle is winning at life as a woman. She was 25 in first kill, playing a 30-year old, who looks like a 12 in said film
I actually want to watch this now, if for no other reason than I want to see "Esther" get thrown across that kitchen island. LOL usually in horror the child killers/dolls never get picked up and hurled across the room and it ALWAYS bugs me.
I know right plus it just seems funny for comedy effect
I actually love this!
Isabelle Furhman is amazing, especially playing a child/childlike role again after so many years, but dang did I enjoy Julia Stiles playing evil for a change!
When I first heard of this being a thing, I thought it was going to be got damn stupid. Ended up being one of my favorite films of the year. That twist was damn good and had me pausing it and going "oh shit". Also liked the (what I'm assuming) unintentional humorous points between Tricia and Leena.
Def intentional. Considering the directors other films
My jaw hit the floor when the twist happened! That won me over because it took all of the predictability out of it and I loved it.
My jaw friggin fell off!
I was actually very happy with this prequel-sequel. I thought Isabelle did amazing and the twist REALLY got my friend and I lol Though I couldn’t wait to see this explained video.
This is literally how I watch movies nowadays lol 😂
Never clicked a video so fast in my life
On*
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Overused asf
I just watched it, and I LOVED it - such a smart direction to take the film, since they couldn't just do the same story again. I hate that they called it "First Kill" though, since it's not. But Julia Stiles was AMAZING.
Yeah "First Kill" wasn't a good name.
I find it funny they completely swapped the family roles. Where as the 1st one had the mother and child the ones with most love and protection, and the dad a useless naïve push over, in this one the Dad is the only redeemable one lol
I found it really weird that Esther did not get a exam fr0m the doctor or dentist upon her arrival from the states. I guess they would have found the dentures and the movie would have ended a lot sooner.
Exactly 😂😂.
I wonder, if the setting helps. Because all those movies feel like they are timed to be in like early 2000s? So that maybe was less strict at the time.
Also you have to remember that the mother cleaned up a lot of things Esther did - she wanted her to stay because it made the father happier, so she obviously limited the ways Esther could get recognised.
Or a DNA test for that matter 😂😂😂
@@mjm3091 Yeah but obviously you’d think they’d do a DNA test or something
I just wanna say the twist had me absolutely SHOOK..I was completely skeptical (yet excited) of how this movie would go, and pleasantly surprised.
the reverse UNO was brutal 😭
Paramount blew it by releasing this on their streaming service with a very limited theater release. I was lucky to see it on the big screen.
Yeah this would've done well in theaters
They were definitely not confident with this.
What would they have done if the food worked? I guess they're rich and privileged, but still, missing daughter "returns" then dies of poison? Because they'd check her and find poison.
They needed her to be unconscious so they could fake her suicide
I said the same
I think for a human it was just supposed to knock her out so Tricia and Gunnar could set up whatever their plan was
@@np1114 I thought he r mother said she "wanted her to sleep for a good long while". I though it was a sleeping pill, as we saw the prescription bottle. It is of course possible the the mother added multiple doses. I thought she was just trying to know her out, but that amount would be way too much for the rat and killed it. When Leena saw the dead rat, she assumed her mother tried to poison her.
I agree with Sabrina that immediately poisoning her wouldn't make sense and would be harder to cover up.
The moment the 'missing sister' showed up and the brother just said "Hey" I yelled at the TV "Well the brother OBVIOUSLY killed his sister"
I said the same thing Ong
I love this movie! The only small complaint/plot hole is in the sequel (original), Esther's bible has pictures of a handful of men, insinuating she had done it to other families before. It's even said it's her M.O. and she's done it to other men & their families. She gets adopted after her "last family died in a tragic fire." But in the prequel (this one), it seems they were the first family she killed. If the sequel comes immediately after this one, where do those other families come in?
At the very beginning of first kill the doctor mentions to Anna that Esther killed a family before coming to the institution. Their could be others and the one mentioned just might be the only one they knew about.
Because her first family died in a fire doesn't mean her last family before them(the one in the original) couldn't die in one either.
Fire is an easy way to eliminate whole family and clean up the mess. She probably just burned them as well. I think it's only small "plothole".
@@malikkelly pretty much this. The nun in the first movie called the incident that left her in the orphanage "The Sullivan fire", whereas the family in this one is the Albrights.
@@HorrorLover oh that makes sense! I thought they were saying this was her first kill and then being adopted into the new family. I guess the others must have happened in between where she wasn't caught
Thank you for getting to Orphan Kills so quickly. I was aching to see you discuss this movie. The twist only half surprised me. I suspected something sus with the mom early on, but not the son.
This movie was amazing! I love it just as much as the first. I honestly think this is one of the best prequel/sequel movies ever made.
I hope Netflix can show the movie
Really lovin the development of this prequel. I was expecting this to be a rehash of the first movie, but it turned into a pvp between 2 psychopaths and I’m loving it,
5:25 she looks like a child... It's bad, really bad, like the Edward Cullen looking like an 18yo but being 300 and dating an actual 18yo situation, maybe it's a comment on how a lot of man seek woman with childish features, not really a comment if it isn't obvious but we can see something there
there was something I really couldn’t understand. If mrs. Albright wanted lena to continue being Ester (as it made Mr. Albright happy) why did she and her son immediately begin to be abusive towards her? how stupid is it to miss treat your partner in crime?
Also, if Lena/Esther was not going to grow anymore, what was Mrs. Albright‘s long-term plans as far as her husband was concerned? eventually he would notice that she wasn’t growing.
I think the reason why Tricia and her son immediately begin to be abusive towards Ester is because Tricia saw them together (ester & her husband) at that painting studio so im assuming she felt jealous and rage because of that..
This reminds me of a real disappearance where a grown Frenchman impersonated a boy who disappeared at age 13. All the family except the brother 'believed' the imposter while a lot of people figured it out fast.
People theorize that the family accidentally killed the actual kid and that's why they accepted him. The imposter said that they confessed the oldest brother killed him in a cocaine fueled rage.
Also reminds me of the book here lies Daniel tate
@@alainacolding8317 Yep. I heard that too. Most insane true case
They didn't believe anything. They accepted him to cover something up.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Hence the quote marks. Unfortunately since there was and is no concrete evidence to support that in a court of law, we have to be careful about word choice. But sometimes the court of public opinion is justbas damning
I love how everyone in the family expect the dad is a horrible person and ester really seemed like she was doing everyone else a favor by killing the family
Yeah mostly brother deserve it
I feared the prequel was gonna be bad. I was wrong
I was able to predict the twist within the first 2 minutes but then again I watch horror movies way too much lol ...still amazing that they managed to kinda make a 24 year old convincingly act like a child
really like how much they connected to the first movie, especially the blacklight idea and why her room lit up with the hospital paintings
The acting between Leena and the Esthers mother was next level especially when they made that deal. You can tell they have respect for each other cause the words just flowed between each other in every scene. I hope they do a third movie Leena is gonna be up there with the Other horror icons.
Awesome explaining😊 your channel is so full of joy I just love em😊 keep up the good work
This is one of the few movies where you root for the villain . When you find out that both parties are equally bad in some sense the audience manipulation move towards wanting Esther to win . But YOU KNOW SHE DOES cause this is before she meets the Coleman’s
Man I was waiting on you to do this one. I enjoyed the hell out of this. The twist caught me completely off guard. I actually said "damn didn't see that coming."
Esther: I might be a manipulative killer but that family is a bit too toxic for me :/
"Damn these motherfuckers are crazier than me!"
That twist i wasn't expecting. The family actually being crazier than her
I’m still confused and have questions! So what happened to Lenas ACTUAL PARENTS? And the real Ester went missing but gunner actually killed her but made it look like a kidnapping, and hid it from the father?
Oh yes I'd like to know what happened to Leena's real parents too
That's what it implies. Scumbag Gunner killed her, psycho mother found and vanished with the body and made up the disappearing/abduction theory. for dad.
Wait the real Esther was killed wtf
The wiki says that her father sexually abused her since infancy which rendered her permanently reproductively sterile.
When her father had a girlfriend and told Leena that he would never truly love her because she will never be a real woman, she snapped and killed him and his girlfriend.
@@hermanmunster22 isn’t that what the brother said? 😭 I’ll kill you like i killed Ester? So my thing is if he killed ester then how did she end up on the missing children’s website?
The twist was actually super good! My friend and I didn't see it coming and what's funny was me, who was in film classes for 3 years in highschool I have picked up on trying to find clues as to what can happen next, but tin the movie they didn't give you that at all, which is why I was so surprised as to what happened next.
You can get a hint by the shot of the dollhouse in the beginning
@@niafaith i should go back and see it then, my friend pointed out how the first time we saw the mom snooping around her room for a stolen watch it had the creepy music in for a second
Why did they think she would remember so much when she’s been missing for 4 years
lmao i was rooting for ester in this one. i lmao'd so f'ing hard at the end when the dad accidently popped her fake teeth out & she smiled only to realized that he poppped em out 😂
I love when movies make you cheer for the "bad guy" at the end. Kind of like "Devil's Rejects". Its actually awesome and I honestly kind of like Ester now. Shes a real one!!
My friggin jaw fell alllll the way off after that twist! It was a psycho free for all!
I loved this movie almost more then the first one
Didn’t really like this film compared to the first one, the first one was actually thrilling
Honestly wasn't expecting another Orphan movie when we didn't really need one. Seems like a decent prequel though
It’s been in the works for a few years
Easy don't watch it...
I don't think the title correlate enough with the storyline of the movie. They should've focus on Lena's origin story, and how she started to develop her psychotic tendencies. I was hoping we can see her real biological family, how she was born, what kind of environtment she grew up in, how her biological family react when they realize she has dwarfism and how she got mistreated because of that, etc. Cuz there must be something that triggered her mental illness, and thats what I want the movie to explore. Instead, all we got is not even about Lena, its about how Lena got Ester as her new identity. Like, from the moment we met her, she's already on a mental hospital for killing someone. So its NOT really her first kill. If u put it in a trilogy, this movie is more suitable as the 2nd prequel, with the original Orphan as the 3rd movie. Which means, we need another prequel, as the 1st movie, to complete the narrative. I just hope if they do make another one, it would be a much-further-to-the-back prequel, where we can actually see her REAL first kill. Cuz u said it urself, technically, the family on this movie is already her 3rd-and-so-on kill, if u consider all the ppl she murdered on the hospital lol.
I kind of figured, when Gunnar reacted as he did to her coming home, that he had been the one to kill Esther...but honestly I thought it had been worse than just rough-housing...like some bad seed shit. What I didn't see was the real story with Tricia. I thought it was all going to be Gunnar being sadistic and diabolical. I mean...Jesus. She says she covered up the death to keep Gunnar safe, but I totally get the feeling she would not have done the same for Esther.
I kinda figured that she might have been a little jealous that the dad loved Esther so much and she didn’t wanna share him with her in the first place which is why it was so easy to get rid of her body and thrown down a well than to tell the truth to her husband. Which is hella crazy.
I noticed how cold the mother was when “esther” first arrived, But I thought it was the father who instead killed Esther.
So, she walked through several rooms on fire? They do know there is smth called smoke.
Is it bad that I loved the fact that she killed the mom and brother... like man they deserved that. Love this channel can't watch scary movies, but still want to know how they turn out.
It looks like a ten yr body with a 25yr old head attached to it 😂😆😆
I really wish they did some digital de-ageing. Like it's so hard for me to watch this as a "prequel" when she looks way older here
Her mouth is wider and her cheeks are sucken. Because she's older duh
but unfortunately it is still distracting for me personally
(I loved the original orphan. It was the 1st movie / sleep over I watch with my bestie. It holds special place in my heart lol)
I agree, her jaw structure is more pronounced and developed. If this was an individual movie it would make sense.
The Shirley Temple moment, is kinda sinister when you look at how… pedophilic the movies were. Shirley Temple was abused on a set where she played an adult dancer as a toddler and was snubbed from the role of Dorothy after she at age 10 - 13ish refused advances from MGM’s (this GROWN MAN EXPOSED HIMSELF TO A CHILD). It’s very symbolic of how the world sees Esther/Lena and how her brain was warped by sexual abuse by a father figure and the fact the world sees her as a little girl (the latter being something Shirley Temple struggled with even after leaving the limelight).
This movie was laughably bad and nowhere near the first movie. They probably tried to create an equally good plot twist like the first one, but they horribly failed. It felt way too forced.
I’ve been watching for years now, but to this day, every time I see his dvd shelves I can only think of the stress of looking for a specific film. Like if you misplaced one, it would take hours to find it.
He probably has an index system for it
Like alphabetical and by year
@@rangercynth probably. Even so, if he misplaced a dvd on the wrong shelf or level , it would be a nightmare to find it.
Esther completely won me over just by being kind to her rat friend. Rats are my favourite animals so that was all she ever needed to do to get me on her side, ha ha. That rat had the cutest little face. I really enjoyed it but I wish they'd drawn out the finale a little longer once the dad saved her. It was just over too fast. The twist was fantastic! My husband and I saw it last night and had a great time, we both loved the original and have a soft spot for evil kid movies (even though they're technically not).
she poisoned it lol, very kind indeed.
@@mmatatigivenmaphoto5738 no she didnt know the food was poisoned she wasnt hungry she gave the food to the rat and when she found the rat dead she realised that the mother tried to poison her.
@@tommydevito8235 no sweetie she had an idea that the food was poisoned that’s why she left it out for the rat to confirm that it was poisoned food.
She didn’t give two shits about that rat. 😂
@@tommydevito8235 Pay attention more next time hun
I can’t get past how old she looks and it’s supposed to be earlier than the first film? She looks so much older and different
After the twist the movie shifted into batshit crazy territory. Honestly it felt like a bit of a parody. Gunner and Trisha were completely over the top mustache twirling villains. But I loved it 😂
Fun fact, Lizzie Borden is said to have been 31 at the time of the murders, the same age as Lena.
they definately could have called it "Second (Kill, Chance, etc.)" and it would have worked as a sequel title and it works with the movie plot
I have to love the alternate scenario where Leena's playing into the father's grief more than Kate's in the first movie, but still just as tragically ignorant to the situation. And the subtle, weirdly placed tones addressing social classes since Kate and John sure as hell were loaded too, and that Tricia and Gunnar were just that level of entitled you'd expect while Allen in the end is just a grieving father that too lost his touch with his talent over the loss of his own child. Tragically playing into his family's own game of lying to him for Tricia to "protect" what she has left. As expected from a b-movie of this degree, that gets taken to its own wild extremes.
I didn't love this movie as much as the first, but I have to admire how this movie managed to be just as convoluted.
And I say this as somebody that really enjoys creative means of seeing how a group of people copes with loss as individuals. I constantly feel bad for Allen because unlike John, he really didn't do anything wrong. John was just an amazingly stupid jackass to his own wife while his wife had to fight to protect to protect her family when her honest intent with adoption was giving the love she had for her unborn child, Jessica, and giving it to someone that needed it.
Gotta love internal familial drama mixing in with a con-artst for some nasty rat-filled soup.
Isabelle Furhman was like an idol to me when I was a kid (I'm jsut about the same age as she is, actually) and she still manages to play the role so beautifully a decade later.
Also, trivial point I found fun, is that the day Leena escaped the Saarne Institute is the day of my birthday. Maybe I barely got out of dodge coming into contact with Leena myself whoo boy.
I kinda feel its not the most shocking or mind-blowing movie. But whole duology feels extremely fresh in the modern horror genre. And I think that this makes it stand out in the crowd of monster slashers and demons and psychological trauma. Especially as even if therr have been other impostor child movies in recent years, this has no supernatural element to it.
Ive seen one sorta interesting explanation for why Esther looks older in this one, that being that back then she wasn't as good at making herself look younger as she became in the first movie through practice
I'll have to check it out (only watched 10mins of the video) looks enjoyable.. one thing that's off for me is with all the crazy shit this at the beginning (and I assume it has to end with her being caught.. but not a guarantee) it makes me rethink the whole first movie... like how has she continued to get away with this shit to the point where she shrouded in such mystery like in the first film.. I mean her getting away with it for years before being caught makes sense, she used her appearance to trick people but like this movie isn't set in a time before mass communication between nations so how is literally everyone oblivious to this girl who infiltrates family and kills them... also I mean you find a missing girl and a different country and not one fucking person decides to make sure this girl is who she says she is I mean come on... she left bloody finger prints on the piano at the home of someone she murdered while also leaving the body right after escaping a fucking mental facility yet not one person is aware of this.. Also wasn't she trying to paint the mom as abusive and crazy in the first film to remove her from the family so she could fuck the dad? Why is she just a crazy deranged murderer in this?
In the story it said she killed before she got in the institution. So, I was wondering how is this her first kill if she killed before?
(Not including the first movie Orphan)
i wonder if their counting it as her first kill under the alias of Esther
From what I remember about the original script from the first movie, Esther killed her father and a prostitute he hired.
There had to be a trigger there. Maybe the dad tried to do something.
@@Mellowedpanda7 Defintely
Well that's only the issue with the title - Hollywood is known to do stuff like that. They probably titled it First Kill - cause it was better for marketing. And tbh it could also work as her first kill as Esther.
Seems like she would have received quite the inheritance.
So they made the second story based off a true story because there was a case about this girl who had a type of dwarfism would get adopted into family’s use them and then they later found out she was like 25
The ending of the prequel is similar to the orphan alternate ending
This video was so nice. I really appreciate the time you guys put into it. I woke up and watched it in bed and now im just ready for any kid killers lol
Congrats for the 2 million subscribers, your RUclips channel and story breakdown is truly one of the best ones out there.
Another one I'm really glad I didn't bother watching, I thought the first one was lame AF but this is just a crappy rehash that's 10 years too late. I'm mean you can clearly see the actress is A LOT older than she was in the first one and it just ruins it considering this is supposed to be a prequel. 🤦
Very rare you come across a sequel or prequel that is just as good, as faithful, or as compelling as it's predecessor.
I've heard as lot of good praise for this movie, so I genuinely can't wait to watch it
Ending has quite some flaws . Like didnt they gonna raise questions with how the fire started , why Gunnar's body have multiple stab wounds on top of that an arrow in his chest , didin't medics suppose to do first aid check on Esther's/Lena's body which would deffinetly notice that she has multiple scars that she's covering on top has wounds n bruises from a fight with Tricia (like how did that happen) ? Also how Police can be so careless catching 10 y.o driving a car and then passing it like yep it just another thuesday . Also no fkin way Tricia would fall room ledge and land hitting her head on the curb . Do people even know how gravity works ?
I'm actually curious, if the Father here, or in the last movie, were to actually accept her, would she then give up being evil and just live happily with them?
At a certain point, the father on this movie would still see her as his lil girl and only family member, after the death of the mother and son, he probably would like to keep her closer because of that. They also bonded with art and got along quite well.
I think that on the father side he would just try to continue to take care of his daughter after he lost everything that was important to him. Since he was quite Innocent, I don't see a reason for Esther to try to kill him, his death on the movie wasn't planned and she wanted to live with him, but the problem is that she may no get satisfied in playing a lil girl for long and try to get frisk with the dad, which he would reject. Lets say she keeps the act, she also doesn't age like other girls, maybe she could blame on "welp, bad genes i guess, i just continue to look young for my age" or something
I liked the social stuff. It added to why they were so terrible to Esther even thou she was playing by the rules. We needed a reason for it not to drag on waiting on Lena to get tired of them.
Most illogical movie I have ever seen where most of this would have never happened had they just confirmed that the child was actually theirs to begin with. The guard should have been able to deal with the two patients in the beginning. When Lena is captured and she spits in the moms face she should not have escaped but of course plot armor.
Agreed 😂. I forgot about Lena spitting in her face and how stupid it was that THAT was enough to help her get away, however believe it or not I can forgive it. To your first point don't they do testing to make sure you are the person who say you are in kidnapping situations? Idk how it works so that can be forgiven too for me.
But my biggest gripe with this movie is what you said about Lena's escape. The guards should have been able to handle the situation and recapture her especially if she was their "most dangerous patient" *insert eye roll* they should have even more security around her. On top of that the mom should have known from the beginning that that wasn't her real daughter should she not? I might be missing something but she knew her son accidentally killed their daughter so when Esther showed up she should have already known that that wasn't her real daughter.
@@blueismylove3128 I would assume for situations like that the first thing they would do is fingerprint tests especially in that large amount of time.
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This movie was laughably terrible. Esther is quite the prolific killer with two families and many other secondary characters now under her murderous belt. Also, that wasn't a mouse.....that was a freakin' RAT! Rat smoothie anyone? Yummy!
I really enjoy when you take a second to speak about what you thought about the film at the end, and I was kinda hoping to get that here. You are very cultures in horror flicks and I love hearing your own thoughts about them as well as the explanations. Curious as to how you felt the tone difference and overall direction impacts the original
When are you going to do the movie Nope? I would love to know if that movie had a deeper meaning than what I found? Because, seriously, that movie was kinda traumatic for me considering the amount of animal violence. I just hate seeing animals mistreated in movies.
Here before it potentially gets blocked 😤 friggen algorithm
It seems like a good movie but hear me out how is someone who has the body of a 10yr old bashing in the head of a grown ass man😭😭, idk if this is a sequel and I’m missing a lot of information that explains how this is possible but, there’s no way she’s able to do that even if she has the mind of a 31yr old, her body is still that of a 10yr old