Man, your analogy to lifting free weights vs a machine is spot on in regards to playing a Speed King. I always thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns, Terry! Thanks so much for this!
Used to happen all the time, but it was a Rogers Swiv-o-matic! I've moved to Speed Kings and have a couple of refurbished one and they're great - and just ordered the new one 'cause I like the drum key tightener for the beater!
Ginger Baker talked about tucking his bell bottoms in his sock, or he would get a rubber band and “cuff” the trousers so the beater wouldn’t get caught in them.
Watching you play on the new and vintage Speed Kings certainly brings back a lot of great memories. Those “clinks” and “pings” are music to my ears! You have inspired me to purchase a new Speed King. As always, thanks for another excellent video!
I have two speed kings both from mid sixties. Love playing them. I also have a iron cobra double pedal I’ve been playing for a few years and I’m constantly making a lot of adjustments because I’m not comfortable with it no matter how I adjust it. Ludwig should make a double speed king.
I've had several Speed Kings and took them apart cleaned and re greased them and they worked perfect and didn't make any noise. Just grease the moving parts and it really quiets them down.
I’ve owned a couple of speed kings over the years and they are my favorite pedal, squeak not withstanding. I got one of these last summer and it’s the best investment I made in a long, long time. Supposedly they have modified the design to eliminate the source of the squeak.
As a young drummer (24) I was intentionally ignorant to original speed king pedals (due to pride and likely repair of the contraption). I proudly used Camco and Yamaha pedals as it gave me that fix of using the pedal and having proper control and rebound. Getting the Speed King after all these years made it worth putting in the work and time in terms of foot control.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Speedflyer pedals as well! I'm still not too sure, what the advantage would be compared to a good old Speed King, except for it being "more modern".
Fantastic Terry! the speed king is the only pedal I can play on! I've tried several other pedals none of them were the same, speed kings have a unique feel to them.
Dude. You’re videos are awesome. I can’t get enough of your videos, Led Zep music, and Bonham’s drumming. Zep and Bonham inspired me to start playing the drums in the first place. I recently stumbled upon the Zildjian s thin crashes and fell in love with them as much as you did. They just have that right sound. The first time I heard them I said that’s it. The paiste cymbals sound awesome too but the prices always turned me off. The zildjian s thin crashes have inspired me to get back into drumming. I recently got the s 22 medium ride, s thin crash 16, s hi hats to start. S 18 and 20 thin crash next on the list. Trying to make my mediocre playing and shoddy tuning on the old beat up craigslist mapex kit in my basement sound like bonham has led me down the youtube tuning drumming like bonham zildjian s thin crash rabbit hole where i stumbled upon your videos. I am considering a ludwig zep kit. Any thoughts? Also I am in nw indiana. Do you tune drums and give lessons? I want to sound like you and bonham do. I also have a pearl pedal my wife bought a few years back. It has similar features to dw 5000. Is dw 5000 way better still? Please keep the videos coming.
Looking and sounding great Terry. I still have both of vintage Ludwig speed kings that my pal reconditioned a couple of years ago. Glad that Ludwig reissued the speed king. Cool review.
You ripped those glasses off so cleanly, better than any movie/tv show I’ve ever seen!😂 I could watch that over and over on loop and laugh till I fart, because it is so awesome and so awesomely hilarious!!! Love the little things pal we are so much alike.😂❤♥️
I bought one of the later era Chicago pedals in 2009 and it also had a more solid/strict feel to it than any vintage one, less bouncy. There were plastic sleeves over all the metal-on-metal moving parts.
Ha ! Great to hear that it’s back ! Sort of reminds me of ‘the new Coke ‘ , mid 80’s . Then a couple years ( ? ) later they brought back the ‘ classic’ Coke . Like , you might say , ‘ new Coke ‘ was the Atlas pedal . Now classic is back ie the Speed King . Very cool Thanks Terry
This guy is every crazy drum teacher I've ever known and I'm here for it 🤣 It makes me think of a lesson I had where we were going over snare tuning and my teacher was all like "Yeah you're snare is giving a real 'thwooshy' sound. It sounds all 'thwoosh thwoosh thwoosh' when what you really want a 'PAH PAH PAH' sound so I really want you to crank up anything that turns on your snare. All of the pegs both top and bottom and also the snare tightening thingy on the throwoff." It is stuff like that which reminds me why drums is the most fun to learn. Whilst other musicians are learning about embouchure and transposed notation we are all like "Bang Bang it's a drum! Tune it so it sounds good and learn to hit it without hurting yourself"
Pre ordered one well over a year ago. Finally got it a while back (after a 9 month wait). I love it. Problem is the thing is SO Facken beautiful, I don’t wanna touch it with my feet. Like kicking your turntable, IMO. Even came with a Ludwig logo’s canvas bag. Still: it’s the best thing that Ludwig makes. I still say their drums suck because their WARRANTY sucks. Or, as anyone who has been burned by Ludwig calls it: WHAT warranty?!
I bought the new one and really like it . This may sound crazy but I miss the squeeking and rattling of my old pedal which gave it a kind of personality in a way". Love your vids and your humor which is lacking with so many other great drum teachers on the tube". Thank you"
I played my Speed King after using various other pedals for awhile and the quickness was noticeable. It definitely has a unique feel. And perfect for my mid 60s Ludwig kit.
I played a speed king from 1970 - until the disappeared. Yes..they could be noisy but all of us who used them knew all the treats to keep it quiet. There has never been a pedal since that used duel springs. Not only did they use two springs, but there were reversed! (upside down) in comparison to other pedals. I couldn't agree more as to their feel and ultimately their power but it did take a bit more doing to get used to it. At first it is like learn to play guitar with a very high action. At first it is very difficult but over time ..and as the action get down to a better height you find you can just fly. Speed Kings are just like that. I used to really tension them with more resistance than I normally would and just start woodshedding. It didn't take long to build up tremendous strength and endurance and ultimately more speed. Since my Speed King days I have tried everything! DW 5000, 9000, the Sonor DP-4000 (Jo Jo Mayer) pedal, Tama Iron Cobra (all models), Tama Speed Cobra, Pedal Demon, Pearl Eliminator (chain and belt), Yamaha Flying Dragons...and finally settled on the Pearl Redline Eliminator as it was the closest to the natural foot pedal angle and was one of the only pedals that had both speed and power built in. But it was never the same. I need to get a new Speed King and go back "home" as it was perfect for all those early years and I suspect it will be once again. (and less noisy this time).
@@bonzoleum Terry, that Camco has an "old world" vibe to it as well. More modern pedals are too bulky, over adjustable and simply not as useful as many of the older original pedals. Can't wait to try the new Speed King.
Hey Terry! I agree with you "wholelottaloveheartedly" I bought 2 last summer and couldn't be happier with the build and feel. They're as quick as my old early 80s Tama/Camco strap drive pedal, which is another great pedal IMO. ☮❤🥁
I haven't tuned in for awhile and dude your hair looks kickass!!!! . I recently got the dw5000 hi hat stand and i love it other than the fact the fecking thing has tipped over twice for some reason. Probably my fault. Okay...gonna watch the vid.... God bless, my guy!!!
Sometimes I'll sit in on someone's drumkit and they have velcro on the bottom of their hi hat pedal. It takes quite a bit of effort to move their hi hat stand to where I'm comfortable to play. Of course, the drummer who brought the drumkit probably doesn't want sit in drummers (like me) to drastically re-arrange his setup. Anyway, the velcro is definitely a pain-in-the-ass!😂
Hi, RV! First determine if it feels to loose or too tight (the action of the pedal with your foot). If too tight- in increments, loosen the bottom screws COUNTERCLOCKWISE (half full turn). If too tight, tighten the same way CLOCKWISE.
@@bonzoleum Thank you very much, I always gave it complete turns and felt that I could never achieve the sweet spot, I did it that way because I read it somewhere. thanks for the help !!!! :D
@@bonzoleum Terry I have another question that may sound stupid, but do the 2 springs have to be adjusted the same and to the same extent or are they independent of each other? I take advantage of asking why here in Chile we don't have much info about it to say nothing and on the internet there is very little too
From what I understand the new speed king are the same specs except the goal post part is a little bit lighter than the original and the cams is obviuosly updated to work more smoothly. But other than that identical. Please let me know if im wrong but that was my research. I got one about 2 months ago and I love it.
I just bought a new ludwig speed king pedal two weeks ago and I would say the overall construction is really good but nobody ever talks about the heartbeat of the speedking which are the springs I’ve been playing since the 1960s the 60s petal you didn’t have to turn very much at all it was the bottom screw was flush with the pole the thing about the new ones is you have to wind the screw turn full turns up so compresses to spring so it doesn’t have the tensioning power of the old springs which I kind of thought would happenBut even after tensioning 10 times it works just like the old speed kings but like they say better no squeaks… Thanks
@@bonzoleum On my new pedal I have to turn the screws ten full turns, half way up the pole to reach my comfort level of playing, I don't have much more turn/screw ratio left, that would never of happened with the springs of the 60's I think they are half as strong as the 1960's pedal. But I still prefer SK over anything else.
Loved the Speed King; I had 7 of them over the years. But they were too noisy. Once I played a few quieter pedals, I couldn't go back - the noise drove me crazy. These days I use a Pearl Demon (also direct drive) - but also occasionally noisy. I like the direct drive but the linkage can make noise. In that regard, the strap driven pedals are the quietest. I can play on oversized kit with wide open tuning and big & loud crash cymbals - if anything is squeaking, rattling, buzzing, whatever - that's all I hear.
@@bonzoleum yeah I had 2 of those - chain drive - sturdy & adjustable - but not as quiet as strap drive - the Demon is working for me - glad to see the Speed King re-issue and love your channel 😎
My original Speed King froze up years ago and I’ve been trying to replicate the sensitivity since for those Bonham broken triplets. I bought a few vintage Speed Kings and no luck. Maybe the reissue can do it!
I’ve got a Ludwig Atlas pedal that came with my Yamaha 562k drum kit and I like it quite a bit. I sold my DW3000 when I bought my Roland KT-10 kick trigger pedals. I’m definitely thinking about purchasing a new speed king pedal . I wouldn’t mind a vintage speed king but I don’t wanna speed a ton of money if Ludwig is making new ones
I really enjoy watching your videos; I started with the one about B8 vs- cymbals one. I think my 1st bass pedal was a Speed-king, nicknamed the "Squeak-king", for obvious reasons, and I could not for the life of me get the squeaks out! I switched to a basic Yamaha pedal, but, man, do you have some serious bass drum chops!
Man you ROCK that bass drum...just getting back into percussion after 2 decade hiatus...any advice on how to get up to speed like you just demonstrated?
1n the 90's I played '75 Slingerland Yellow Jacket. A double spring . Direct drive. Swings a wood beater with ease. Reliable, and a comfy large, long footboard. I have a 69 speed king and a 1st gen Rogers Swivo with needle bearings. (Pre CBS). I keep going back to the Slingy. Check one out!
Lol. Does it come with the free squeak! You have to be old enough to have actually owned a few from back 60s 70,s And they always made noise. Fun in studio. I wasn’t recording back then but I could imagine.
The Speed King is the most sensitive pedel I have tried. Maybe the Ghost is as good? I have not tried it. They both have opposing compression springs, but the Ghost has coiled compression spring. You can play quiet, or loud, but being consistent is a challenge. IMHO
I've tried many pedals and I always return to my old Speed King... Why doesn't anyone talk about the "Caroline" foot pedal... They were very popular when I got started.
Hey T. Could be on my end, but most of the audio was only coming through my left ear bud.. maybe your audio panning was adjusted left or right? Shite... idk. Anyways! Always happy to see ya T! Mox!!
We really need a NOS 60s 70s, at the latest, speed king to properly compare, because the new one feels more firm due to it being brand new. Let’s see what that Chinese pedal looks & plays like in 20/30 years. And I’m just being fair to the originals. Of course, I’ve never played a brand new SPKG, being born in mid-70s.
My 1st pedal was a vintage "Squeak king" mid 90s.Then got a pearl that sucked,got a DW 5000 which is good,but its a tank and I just have to go back to the original "new and improved" version,to go with my Bop kit.Hopefully last pedal ever.🤖🛸
I"m 61. I bought and played a 'series' of these...in my youth ( hmm?...'mid 70's...to maybe...1981 or so...when i moved up to some form of 'early DW' rig) I want another one; and get this.... "then...they were around $50 bucks...New. ( mid/late 70's) Now?.... just saw one on Amazon....$300. they can go pound sand. Ridiculous. But i'll keep looking. I think Guitar Center may have 'em for the 'high 1's...or around 2 bills. even 'that...is stupid. But these things...are amazing. God...i hate this modern era...of overpriced everything..
Holy schmoly, I made it through a full video not swearing at your choice of shirt LoL And the sound on this one stuck out, for me and my perforated ear drums at least.
Man, I have been listening to this dude for almost 5 minutes now and he has actually told me nothing....this guy is wearing me out just trying to follow whatever he's trying to say. Scattered individual....
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Man, your analogy to lifting free weights vs a machine is spot on in regards to playing a Speed King. I always thoroughly enjoy your breakdowns, Terry! Thanks so much for this!
Hi Derek!!!!! Hope you're well during this stressful time!
i was just thinking about Terrys speed king free weight analogy
If you've been playing long enough to have the speed-king beater stuck in you bell-bottoms you've been around a while!
Used to happen all the time, but it was a Rogers Swiv-o-matic!
I've moved to Speed Kings and have a couple of refurbished one and they're great - and just ordered the new one 'cause I like the drum key tightener for the beater!
@Juke Joint That's why they make oil!
Dude ...
Ginger Baker talked about tucking his bell bottoms in his sock, or he would get a rubber band and “cuff” the trousers so the beater wouldn’t get caught in them.
Been there
After watching this, I think I'm finally going to buy my first Speed King. Always a great time watching ya jam Terry! Keep rocking my friend!!!
Good to hear from you Don! Hope all is well!!
Watching you play on the new and vintage Speed Kings certainly brings back a lot of great memories. Those “clinks” and “pings” are music to my ears! You have inspired me to purchase a new Speed King. As always, thanks for another excellent video!
Terrific D!!!
On the track of since I've been loving you m, you can hear his pedal squeaking
Was already excited that they brought this back, now I'm seriously considering picking one up and retiring my old Axis A Longboard.
I have two speed kings both from mid sixties. Love playing them. I also have a iron cobra double pedal I’ve been playing for a few years and I’m constantly making a lot of adjustments because I’m not comfortable with it no matter how I adjust it. Ludwig should make a double speed king.
Dude, I love this. Still have my speed king from 1967. Still the fastest and the best. I’ve had others but never quite as good.
I've had several Speed Kings and took them apart cleaned and re greased them and they worked perfect and didn't make any noise. Just grease the moving parts and it really quiets them down.
I’ve owned a couple of speed kings over the years and they are my favorite pedal, squeak not withstanding. I got one of these last summer and it’s the best investment I made in a long, long time. Supposedly they have modified the design to eliminate the source of the squeak.
As a young drummer (24) I was intentionally ignorant to original speed king pedals (due to pride and likely repair of the contraption). I proudly used Camco and Yamaha pedals as it gave me that fix of using the pedal and having proper control and rebound. Getting the Speed King after all these years made it worth putting in the work and time in terms of foot control.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Speedflyer pedals as well! I'm still not too sure, what the advantage would be compared to a good old Speed King, except for it being "more modern".
Fantastic Terry! the speed king is the only pedal I can play on! I've tried several other pedals none of them were the same, speed kings have a unique feel to them.
Dude. You’re videos are awesome. I can’t get enough of your videos, Led Zep music, and Bonham’s drumming. Zep and Bonham inspired me to start playing the drums in the first place. I recently stumbled upon the Zildjian s thin crashes and fell in love with them as much as you did. They just have that right sound. The first time I heard them I said that’s it. The paiste cymbals sound awesome too but the prices always turned me off. The zildjian s thin crashes have inspired me to get back into drumming. I recently got the s 22 medium ride, s thin crash 16, s hi hats to start. S 18 and 20 thin crash next on the list. Trying to make my mediocre playing and shoddy tuning on the old beat up craigslist mapex kit in my basement sound like bonham has led me down the youtube tuning drumming like bonham zildjian s thin crash rabbit hole where i stumbled upon your videos. I am considering a ludwig zep kit. Any thoughts? Also I am in nw indiana. Do you tune drums and give lessons? I want to sound like you and bonham do. I also have a pearl pedal my wife bought a few years back. It has similar features to dw 5000. Is dw 5000 way better still? Please keep the videos coming.
Looking and sounding great Terry. I still have both of vintage Ludwig speed kings that my pal reconditioned a couple of years ago. Glad that Ludwig reissued the speed king. Cool review.
You ripped those glasses off so cleanly, better than any movie/tv show I’ve ever seen!😂 I could watch that over and over on loop and laugh till I fart, because it is so awesome and so awesomely hilarious!!! Love the little things pal we are so much alike.😂❤♥️
Thank you!
I bought one of the later era Chicago pedals in 2009 and it also had a more solid/strict feel to it than any vintage one, less bouncy. There were plastic sleeves over all the metal-on-metal moving parts.
Those the black-plate ones?
The brass heel plate bushings is where mine gets noise. The new ones have bearings in the heel plate and heavier pins in the drive strap
TERRY! I just got mine!!! Tension setting lesson please? For beginners?
Ha ! Great to hear that it’s back !
Sort of reminds me of ‘the new Coke ‘ , mid 80’s . Then a couple years ( ? ) later they brought back the ‘ classic’ Coke .
Like , you might say , ‘ new Coke ‘ was the Atlas pedal . Now classic is back ie the Speed King .
Very cool
Thanks Terry
Miss the “King”. I recently bought the Speed Flyer but Ima return it and grab the original.
This guy is every crazy drum teacher I've ever known and I'm here for it 🤣
It makes me think of a lesson I had where we were going over snare tuning and my teacher was all like "Yeah you're snare is giving a real 'thwooshy' sound. It sounds all 'thwoosh thwoosh thwoosh' when what you really want a 'PAH PAH PAH' sound so I really want you to crank up anything that turns on your snare. All of the pegs both top and bottom and also the snare tightening thingy on the throwoff."
It is stuff like that which reminds me why drums is the most fun to learn. Whilst other musicians are learning about embouchure and transposed notation we are all like "Bang Bang it's a drum! Tune it so it sounds good and learn to hit it without hurting yourself"
Pre ordered one well over a year ago. Finally got it a while back (after a 9 month wait). I love it. Problem is the thing is SO Facken beautiful, I don’t wanna touch it with my feet. Like kicking your turntable, IMO. Even came with a Ludwig logo’s canvas bag. Still: it’s the best thing that Ludwig makes. I still say their drums suck because their WARRANTY sucks. Or, as anyone who has been burned by Ludwig calls it: WHAT warranty?!
Awesome vid Terry! I got an old Speed King and I love it. I’m gonna get a new one too, for sure.
Thanks bro!!!!!
I bought the new one and really like it . This may sound crazy but I miss the squeeking and rattling of my old pedal which gave it a kind of personality in a way". Love your vids and your humor which is lacking with so many other great drum teachers on the tube". Thank you"
I played my Speed King after using various other pedals for awhile and the quickness was noticeable. It definitely has a unique feel. And perfect for my mid 60s Ludwig kit.
I played a speed king from 1970 - until the disappeared. Yes..they could be noisy but all of us who used them knew all the treats to keep it quiet. There has never been a pedal since that used duel springs. Not only did they use two springs, but there were reversed! (upside down) in comparison to other pedals.
I couldn't agree more as to their feel and ultimately their power but it did take a bit more doing to get used to it. At first it is like learn to play guitar with a very high action. At first it is very difficult but over time ..and as the action get down to a better height you find you can just fly. Speed Kings are just like that. I used to really tension them with more resistance than I normally would and just start woodshedding. It didn't take long to build up tremendous strength and endurance and ultimately more speed.
Since my Speed King days I have tried everything! DW 5000, 9000, the Sonor DP-4000 (Jo Jo Mayer) pedal, Tama Iron Cobra (all models), Tama Speed Cobra, Pedal Demon, Pearl Eliminator (chain and belt), Yamaha Flying Dragons...and finally settled on the Pearl Redline Eliminator as it was the closest to the natural foot pedal angle and was one of the only pedals that had both speed and power built in. But it was never the same.
I need to get a new Speed King and go back "home" as it was perfect for all those early years and I suspect it will be once again. (and less noisy this time).
Yes- I've been using the Tama Camco of yore, but I might leave this SK on for a while!
@@bonzoleum Terry, that Camco has an "old world" vibe to it as well. More modern pedals are too bulky, over adjustable and simply not as useful as many of the older original pedals. Can't wait to try the new Speed King.
Hey Terry! I agree with you "wholelottaloveheartedly" I bought 2 last summer and couldn't be happier with the build and feel. They're as quick as my old early 80s Tama/Camco strap drive pedal, which is another great pedal IMO. ☮❤🥁
Hi Matt!!!
Besides the sqeek’s and the click’s are outher issues.with the speed king pedal.it’s a must have in your collection.still a great pedal.i’v got mine.
I haven't tuned in for awhile and dude your hair looks kickass!!!! . I recently got the dw5000 hi hat stand and i love it other than the fact the fecking thing has tipped over twice for some reason. Probably my fault. Okay...gonna watch the vid.... God bless, my guy!!!
Thanks Doc!
Sometimes I'll sit in on someone's drumkit and they have velcro on the bottom of their hi hat pedal. It takes quite a bit of effort to move their hi hat stand to where I'm comfortable to play. Of course, the drummer who brought the drumkit probably doesn't want sit in drummers (like me) to drastically re-arrange his setup. Anyway, the velcro is definitely a pain-in-the-ass!😂
Hi Terry, can you tell me how you properly adjust the tensión of the speedking.
i love you videos , greettings from Chile 🇨🇱
Hi, RV! First determine if it feels to loose or too tight (the action of the pedal with your foot). If too tight- in increments, loosen the bottom screws COUNTERCLOCKWISE (half full turn). If too tight, tighten the same way CLOCKWISE.
@@bonzoleum Thank you very much, I always gave it complete turns and felt that I could never achieve the sweet spot, I did it that way because I read it somewhere. thanks for the help !!!! :D
@@bonzoleum Terry I have another question that may sound stupid, but do the 2 springs have to be adjusted the same and to the same extent or are they independent of each other?
I take advantage of asking why here in Chile we don't have much info about it to say nothing and on the internet there is very little too
@@bonzoleum Oh! I see! More of that backwards business that exists in photography, etc...Thank you Terry!
From what I understand the new speed king are the same specs except the goal post part is a little bit lighter than the original and the cams is obviuosly updated to work more smoothly. But other than that identical. Please let me know if im wrong but that was my research. I got one about 2 months ago and I love it.
It’s getting expensive to watch you! 270 C$. Checked my local store: out of stock. Broke my heart to buy from Bezos.
Good thing he is stepping down
tight speedking a wood beater a dr scholls foot pad, as a patch. coated ambassador tuned up with a med feather pillow, and your kik drum is golden*
Terry, Do you still have your Camco? I have an old 80’s Camco pedal with a strap which I love. How would you compare it to a Speed King?
For me the Tama Camco is similar, and much more reliable/less noisy that the original speed king. The reissue might have that rectified for me.
I was tempted by the reissue, but not at UK Ludwig prices. About $300 dollars!!
@rix29
Wow, that’s a lot of money, in the USA it’s $200
@@Max-dd4ow yeah Ludwig stuff is really expensive here. Used prices for old Snares are crazy. Acrolites are upwards of $400 😮
wish I knew Greg Lee... I got one and it's squeaking already ( 4 months after getting it ) !!
Completely agree with you on the velcro! I immediately tape over them suckers whenever I get a pedal with it installed.
Yes- the pedal has to slip fore and back on the carpet for attachment and removal.
I just bought a new ludwig speed king pedal two weeks ago and I would say the overall construction is really good but nobody ever talks about the heartbeat of the speedking which are the springs I’ve been playing since the 1960s the 60s petal you didn’t have to turn very much at all it was the bottom screw was flush with the pole the thing about the new ones is you have to wind the screw turn full turns up so compresses to spring so it doesn’t have the tensioning power of the old springs which I kind of thought would happenBut even after tensioning 10 times it works just like the old speed kings but like they say better no squeaks… Thanks
Thanks D- so you’re you’re saying stronger/firmer springs than come with the pedal now would be an improvement?
@@bonzoleum On my new pedal I have to turn the screws ten full turns, half way up the pole to reach my comfort level of playing, I don't have much more turn/screw ratio left, that would never of happened with the springs of the 60's I think they are half as strong as the 1960's pedal. But I still prefer SK over anything else.
Loved the Speed King; I had 7 of them over the years. But they were too noisy. Once I played a few quieter pedals, I couldn't go back - the noise drove me crazy. These days I use a Pearl Demon (also direct drive) - but also occasionally noisy. I like the direct drive but the linkage can make noise. In that regard, the strap driven pedals are the quietest. I can play on oversized kit with wide open tuning and big & loud crash cymbals - if anything is squeaking, rattling, buzzing, whatever - that's all I hear.
Have you tried a Tama Camco pedal from the 80s? Nice pedal! Has Speed King action-ish.
@@bonzoleum yeah I had 2 of those - chain drive - sturdy & adjustable - but not as quiet as strap drive - the Demon is working for me - glad to see the Speed King re-issue and love your channel 😎
My original Speed King froze up years ago and I’ve been trying to replicate the sensitivity since for those Bonham broken triplets. I bought a few vintage Speed Kings and no luck. Maybe the reissue can do it!
If you still got it open it all up and breakdown the crusty guys with a DW 40 bath! The reissue is nice.
@@bonzoleum thanks Terry I took it apart but didn’t pop off the round disks. Is that what you mean? Was worried they might not go back together
I’ve got a Ludwig Atlas pedal that came with my Yamaha 562k drum kit and I like it quite a bit. I sold my DW3000 when I bought my Roland KT-10 kick trigger pedals. I’m definitely thinking about purchasing a new speed king pedal . I wouldn’t mind a vintage speed king but I don’t wanna speed a ton of money if Ludwig is making new ones
Yes, Speed King reissues are terrific!
I really enjoy watching your videos; I started with the one about B8 vs- cymbals one. I think my 1st bass pedal was a Speed-king, nicknamed the "Squeak-king", for obvious reasons, and I could not for the life of me get the squeaks out! I switched to a basic Yamaha pedal, but, man, do you have some serious bass drum chops!
Man you ROCK that bass drum...just getting back into percussion after 2 decade hiatus...any advice on how to get up to speed like you just demonstrated?
1n the 90's I played '75 Slingerland Yellow Jacket. A double spring . Direct drive. Swings a wood beater with ease. Reliable, and a comfy large, long footboard. I have a 69 speed king and a 1st gen Rogers Swivo with needle bearings. (Pre CBS). I keep going back to the Slingy. Check one out!
Ah yes- I played one in the mid 90s.
Would the ‘flexibility’ you talk about the vintage pedals having end up being a result of using the pedal over a long period of time?
Where did you get that floor Tom Ludwig drum head it looks cool
I just discovered the FUCKING SPEED KING IS BACK. Buying one today. Thank you!!!
Lol. Does it come with the free squeak! You have to be old enough to have actually owned a few from back 60s 70,s And they always made noise. Fun in studio. I wasn’t recording back then but I could imagine.
The Speed King is the most sensitive pedel I have tried. Maybe the Ghost is as good? I have not tried it. They both have opposing compression springs, but the Ghost has coiled compression spring. You can play quiet, or loud, but being consistent is a challenge. IMHO
I've tried many pedals and I always return to my old Speed King... Why doesn't anyone talk about the "Caroline" foot pedal... They were very popular when I got started.
The Caroline- I'll look it up.
I just ordered one to replace my original that I had freshened up. It's starting to click more than just squeak. You can really hear it on recordings.
What do you find to be the best spring tension to achieve Bonham speed? How far in to you turn the spring tension screws?
All the way up brotha
I got the reissue and use the springs off my old one. Much better feel
Hey T. Could be on my end, but most of the audio was only coming through my left ear bud.. maybe your audio panning was adjusted left or right? Shite... idk. Anyways! Always happy to see ya T! Mox!!
The audio sounded fine through my ears, it might be your speakers
Ah yes- my settings were set that way accidntally Spnce.
I have the ultimate upgrade to keep the posts from spreading. Unfortunately I can't post a photo.
Great review by Mike Patton of Mr. Bungle. When is the new album coming out?
Getting my act together here. I'll keep you abreast.
what about for heel down players? i went to a music store to test one out and it’s very nice, but it seems to have no heel support
You and your kit sound like Bonham! COOL
Thanks, Joshuel!
It's all about the action indeed,
that's the main reason to play drums right there. Less is more with pedals.
Yeahhhh Baby ! Keep on Rockin!!! Speed Kings Rule !!!!
Yes, thanks John!
Real drummers don't complain about pains in there arms stoooop ITT 💪👹👊
We should all be as Real as this drummer.
We really need a NOS 60s 70s, at the latest, speed king to properly compare, because the new one feels more firm due to it being brand new. Let’s see what that Chinese pedal looks & plays like in 20/30 years. And I’m just being fair to the originals. Of course, I’ve never played a brand new SPKG, being born in mid-70s.
My 1st pedal was a vintage "Squeak king" mid 90s.Then got a pearl that sucked,got a DW 5000 which is good,but its a tank and I just have to go back to the original "new and improved" version,to go with my Bop kit.Hopefully last pedal ever.🤖🛸
Are you still selling those drum sticks?
Getting more in soon.
How do you set your spring tension?
I would like to know more about that too!
I just find the quick triplets difficult with my speed cobras, the dw 9000 are just too clunky. Where can I get these, I'm in Ireland.
These guys I think can hook you up: www.drumcenternh.com/ludwig-speed-king-bass-drum-pedal
@@bonzoleum thanks Terry, i wonder what a double drum pedal version would be like? love the new look dude.
Great video. What spring tension do you like and what did bonzo use.
Not sure what Bonham used- I like it medium on a SK.
How do you adjust the spring tension ? More on the loose side , medium or....?
I’d say 40 percent of the tightest it will go.
Classic Bonham sound
Going to have to sell my Pearl Eliminator pedal and get myself
a new Speed King now
YES
I"m 61. I bought and played a 'series' of these...in my youth ( hmm?...'mid 70's...to maybe...1981 or so...when i moved up to some form of 'early DW' rig) I want another one; and get this.... "then...they were around $50 bucks...New. ( mid/late 70's) Now?.... just saw one on Amazon....$300. they can go pound sand. Ridiculous. But i'll keep looking. I think Guitar Center may have 'em for the 'high 1's...or around 2 bills. even 'that...is stupid. But these things...are amazing. God...i hate this modern era...of overpriced everything..
Im using an old Slingerland super speed
Agreed! A+
is it a natural room sound?
Hi Pavel -yes it is.
Yeah, looking dapper. 👌 sounding solid. see you Thursday.......!
I like your new look Terry.
Holy schmoly, I made it through a full video not swearing at your choice of shirt LoL And the sound on this one stuck out, for me and my perforated ear drums at least.
8:18 😅😅😅
Great bass snare. Haha
Thanks Bob!
boy, you look fine ;) Cheers
Club date good
0:46
i still have my original speed king. lol
Let those locks flow terry
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First 🥇
If a grown man can’t bench 135....🤦🏻♂️😂
Man, I have been listening to this dude for almost 5 minutes now and he has actually told me nothing....this guy is wearing me out just trying to follow whatever he's trying to say. Scattered individual....
He talk's way too much. & doesn't say much.. Just get to the point