Who else wants to see David use his engineering skills to destroy a drum set and make his own wacky design of a kit and play all his weird cymbals and gear with it?
That cowbell groove with the Foot-Nik was DOPE AF. You found a Sabian TRIPLE HAT?!?! Amazeballs! David: "What could be more awkward than me playing double pedal? 🤔hmmm, TRIPLE pedal..." The Vruk looked painful, like someone falling down a rock covered hill...
Dude I hope you see this I love your content so much, I started playing drums for school this year and watching your videos is now a sort of meditation for me I hope you continue on like that ❤
The Tri-hat is pretty cool. Just one of those Sabian oddities from a golden age when they were constantly innovating and experimenting. They were the ones pushing the envelope back before Meinl kinda started to take that mantle. The Max stax was one of if not the first stack that was intended to be used as such, they were also the first to purposely put large holes in a cymbal to change the the sound.
do you remember those hand held mini hi hats sabian used to make? I've never seen one for sale but it was afantastic idea, a pair of 5 or 6 inch hi hats on a hand held trigger
you should do a whole video on that triple hi hat and as many cymbal swap combos on it that you can come up with. i saw dom famularo in clinic promoting these when they came out, and all i could think was how cool it would be to put a 18 sabian jia chinese on the bottom. the cymbal choice isn't as much out of date as it is just not very good. so much potential. they should have made a cable version too, as they're just a little too whacky to have as a main set.
As a sidenote, for us older drummers, who don’t have the flexibility in our Achilles’ heel anymore, the VRUK is a great piece of gear for under your heel. Picked up that tip from Steven Adler!
You’re content is superb, in a sea of mediocracy you stand out as one of the most innovative and creative RUclipsrs out there, you should try out some weird muffling techniques and gadgets, maybe some weird sticks too, keep on rocking🤘
I've actually never seen or heard of the triple hats. Pretty cool concept. I do know a pro drummer from my area named Jeramie Kling use a vruk before. Not sure if he's still using it though.
To note on that Tri-pedal... the "white pads" are to face the head. 🙃 I think, if you had a double base drum and set it up on the left foot, and put a single on the right, you could use the right as normal, and then go heavy when applying the left.
Dont forget the Mapex janus combination double bass pedal hi hat stand. Slave pedal could be swiveled back and forth from the hi hat stand to slave side pedal.
The Gibraltar ultra-adjust was also an interesting pedal. A more adjustable hi hat stand with remote styling. They disappeared pretty quickly though since they were just in between markets enough to not have a market.
@@JasonMcLemore yeah they did take a bit to get adjusted right, or maybe I got lucky. Worked well for a double bass kit to get the base of the stand and the hi-hat where you need it. either way remote hats work better anyways.
Not the one you demo'd in the video, but the other heel-toe pedal you mentioned before the dualist pedals, I think would actually work incredibly well as a single pedal by blocking the normal pedal so it can't move and only using the heel pedal. I honestly think I'd have much more power and accuracy playing that way, just being able to keep the front of my foot planted and just dropping my heel down, kinda like how people shake their legs. Your top possible speed/bpm would go down as a result of not being able to do like heel-toe, but that's something I'd trade off tbh, and it's not like you'd be ridiculously slow either.
You should experiment with various cymbals on that triple hi-hat. See if you can make a better sound and what interesting weirdness you can come up with.
ive been binging old rdavidr fix my snare and vintage/cheap drumset restorations for the past week… I NEED MORE just bought a blackrolite on reverb and am very excited to work on it love the vids!
I really like the VRUK Drum master. I have a pair and I used them on a CD I recorded and got some really fast playing done with them. Sure, Mr Vruk has a humble website, but his product is really well made and works great if you take a little time to adjust to it. I got used to it in WAY less than three months.
I been loving the reviews on weird drums and such. But I am starting to miss all the crazy builds you used to have. I am just wondering when the next crazy drum build is gonna come? Don't worry if there isn't any coming soon. I was just wondering.
Electronic music had this nailed. Particularly artist like Mr Bill and Tipper. Their sessions are literally organised as a drums buss, a subbass buss, and 'other shit'. Where they chop up a bunch of sound design improv to create a top layer.
Can you do one on weird snares. There are some notables that would be interesting: Arbiter - Flats Duplex - Spirit of St. Louis Duplex - perforated shell Taye - adjustable depth SJC and Luka drums both did ones that were graduated sizes from top to bottom Turbine snares Spacer snares There are so many it could be several parts
Those are neat. I had a Mapex Janus double pedal and transmission hi-hat all-in-one thing. It was neat. Pedals were super sluggish, and it's substantially more cumbersome in transport. It didn't add anything, but rather subtracted a footboard. I ended up selling it because I needed the money for other gear, otherwise I'd still have it for funsies. There was a Gemini 241 (two for one, get it?) double single at a local music store when I was a kid. I think it came out slightly before the Dualist. The heel plate was the drive for the left beater. A salesman at the store bet me $20 that I couldn't play it because I was some dumb young kid and none of the kids could figure it out. I sat down and played it. He was mad that I played heel down, which is required to play the pedal. I told him to keep his money and stop being a jerk as my payment. If you want to play it as a single pedal, then play heel up. If you want to play it as a double pedal, then play heel down.
🚨 IDEA: Hi David, I have been walking arround with this idea for a long time now. Have no clue it already exists. A pedal controlled throw-off for the snare. I imagine it to be fitted with a cable like a remote hihat. It would allow you to use the snare as a extra tom within breaks. Dunno if it could work but it certainly would bring freedom. It would be awesome if you could try this for your vids.
The abomination of the "triple-ist" pedal makes me realize what a true technical accomplishment quality double-pedals are. However...I now want to see RDR take two dualists (left & right) and make a quadruple pedal setup out of them :D
You, Sir,have definately found a special Niche in the drum video world!!! Love your Vids, But, I have to say, YOU'VE got some decent licks. keep it up.great stuff
Hahaha, I remember when those Sabian Tri Hats came out... probably about 25 years ago now, I think they came out right about the same time as the Portnoy Max Stax... this is the first time I've ever actually seen/heard someone play the triple hats!
Portnoy uses the tri hats in the song "as I am". In the live at budokan dvd, you can see him play it during the part of the song where he's playing the snare rim.
I remember them too, right around 1998 the guys at my local music store had it display just because it was so laughable. I don't know if they ever even sold one.
I still have several Ghost pedals and they were my go-to since the 80's and they are still very fast, smooth, and quiet. Have you done any videos on these? I admit I have not searched your channel to see.
I remember that wacky triple hihat. And remember it having a very obscene price too, like $600 in 90-00s dollars.. is anyone old enough to remember a i think it was Gibraltar rack/riser system that pitched you, and your kit like 30⁰ backwards supposedly taking pressure off of your joints giving more speed and power
Are you thinking of Bob Gatzen's DrumFrame? That was an interesting idea, but seemed a bit too impractical for most gigging drummers. I believe Tony Royster Jr. used one (and possibly was an endorser) for a while.
I think the last one you are supossed to play it the way I do heel toe (which I do wrong I think) you hit with the toe, and then let the ball of your feet fall flat, like the whole foot, no need to put the foot up and hit whith toes, idk how to explain it I think I would be very good with the dualist and that last one due to how my feet are (which prevents me from playing normally), but I can't buy them sadly
Dude, you have missed the Soho (or Stable) PD-333 which is a single pedal unit, but with a heel pedal AND 2 beaters. Used it many times once I got the hang of it to extensively play double bass metal style.
The sabian triple Hi hat stand could have a similar issue to my vintage hi hat with exposed springs stand. If you over tighten the bottom part of the stand it will seize up the stand.
Reviewed the Tri-hat and the Tripalist (as it was called back then) for a magazine when they came out. And the original Sonor giant step too. Suffice to say, I'm still playing regular pedals all these years later. The dualist pedal does work, but the second stroke is activated by a spring and that made it very hard to get even strokes. The Trihat was cool, but who really needs it. Messed around with the Vruk attachment (they where a bit more common in europe) and they would get a little less stiff over time. But again: who really needs it?
Dude, speaking of pedals, some how I got cable hi hat called the "Dixon" that apparently is a prototype for Gibraltar as I was told. (totally could be wrong) Correct me if wrong The cable is broken (tracking a replacement down got me to the "prototype") I don't have a kit anymore (trying to pay for Lasik surgery) and if you want this pedal, I will send it to you if you think it would be cool for content?
I wonder if an air cylinder like in hatchback cars would work better for the catapult than the spring. The problem would be finding one the right size.
Which pedal would you add to your kit?
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tripple hi hat pedeal for sure i loved that especially the little airy hat ontop
The Sca-Taylor for sure, there is nothing else like it on the market. True innovation!
Although that trihat pedal is very interesting indeed
That double cowbell was 🔥🔥🔥
I'd love to hear a tambourine on that hi-hat. I would love to shake on the upstroke
I would add the deluxe, spray painted gas pedal.
Okay, that cowbell beat at 2:00 was SICK!
Yahh so cool
needs more cowbell
Bruce Dickinson has a fever and needs more cowbell
Who else wants to see David use his engineering skills to destroy a drum set and make his own wacky design of a kit and play all his weird cymbals and gear with it?
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Damn. Never knew I needed a Foot-Nik and a old cowbell so badly.😂 That truly was 10/10 though. 👏
Do you know where you can buy them from?
finally the cure for the fever.
put it at 2x speed
@@Jril39 I tried looking into them but there’s almost nothing on them 😭
The only time I’ve ever wanted a cowbell
That cowbell groove with the Foot-Nik was DOPE AF.
You found a Sabian TRIPLE HAT?!?! Amazeballs!
David: "What could be more awkward than me playing double pedal? 🤔hmmm, TRIPLE pedal..."
The Vruk looked painful, like someone falling down a rock covered hill...
Dude I hope you see this I love your content so much, I started playing drums for school this year and watching your videos is now a sort of meditation for me I hope you continue on like that ❤
The Tri-hat is pretty cool. Just one of those Sabian oddities from a golden age when they were constantly innovating and experimenting. They were the ones pushing the envelope back before Meinl kinda started to take that mantle. The Max stax was one of if not the first stack that was intended to be used as such, they were also the first to purposely put large holes in a cymbal to change the the sound.
do you remember those hand held mini hi hats sabian used to make? I've never seen one for sale but it was afantastic idea, a pair of 5 or 6 inch hi hats on a hand held trigger
I love my 14” Sabian AA Sizzle hats, it has rivets and holes in the bottom cymbal
@@GOLDSMITHEXILEHand Hats! Yes! I always wanted a pair, but I doubt I’d ever play them 😂
Now that you’ve challenged El estepario playing the triple pedal i want him making an extreme and weird drum tools video series
Estepario has a video out with him playing a duallist triple, and doing it astonishingly well. (There's a surprise 😂)
He crushed it by the way. Never anger a drum god...😅
I have to say it- that steampunk- looking metal double pedal hitting the cowbell was EPIC. That is so ugly / funky that it's cool- and sounded great!
you should do a whole video on that triple hi hat and as many cymbal swap combos on it that you can come up with. i saw dom famularo in clinic promoting these when they came out, and all i could think was how cool it would be to put a 18 sabian jia chinese on the bottom. the cymbal choice isn't as much out of date as it is just not very good. so much potential. they should have made a cable version too, as they're just a little too whacky to have as a main set.
This^. The possibilities ABOUND with 3 cymbals.
As a sidenote, for us older drummers, who don’t have the flexibility in our Achilles’ heel anymore, the VRUK is a great piece of gear for under your heel. Picked up that tip from Steven Adler!
Dude that Foot Nik groove was tasty as heck 🤤
Sabian missed a real opportunity to call it the Tri-Hat
You’re content is superb, in a sea of mediocracy you stand out as one of the most innovative and creative RUclipsrs out there, you should try out some weird muffling techniques and gadgets, maybe some weird sticks too, keep on rocking🤘
1:59 This is awesome. Somebody needs to get this into production.
Duuuuuuude! That cowbell double thing at the start was killer. Loved the beat too 🎉
Watching you try to play the triple pedal feels like one of those nightmares where I want to run but I start floating just enough to not go anywhere.
I gave up on learning the drums about a year ago, but after watching your videos, I wanna get back into it.
do it bro it’s so fun
okay the cowbell double pedal thing was SICK
I've actually never seen or heard of the triple hats. Pretty cool concept. I do know a pro drummer from my area named Jeramie Kling use a vruk before. Not sure if he's still using it though.
Fun fact, Portnoy used one as his x-hat for a while!
Glad you liked the double piddle pedal that you bought from me. THE FOOT-NIK-cheers
The Vruk was so cool in 2005. Drummers back then were super into them, and it set multiple world records for bass pedal speed.
I'd love to get some, too bad they're not made anymore.
9:59 that pedal doesn't miss a beat 😅
El Estepario has just put up his triple duallist video, he heard you!
Lamp rod matches roto Tom center thread also!
You can make a bell stack out of the frame bases!
That Sabian stand is a WIN!
ok but why is your bass drum deformed
If you’re a drummer you are a moron.
Pretty it's made that way becuase of the sound
I could be wrong, but Isn't it an old peavey?
I found out it's from a Vox Telstar kit
It melted
That first one in context is actually cool asf
That cowbell pedal groove is hot.
rdavidr u are probably one of the most fun drummers i watch and i have taken lots of inspiration from u
that double cowbell was transcending
i like how the title says bass drum pedals and literally in the thumnail is a hi-hat pedal
that double cowbell pedal is awesome!! And I also want that triple hihat thingy!!
If a normal open hi hat is loud how loud will this be 4:39
Spotted a tama bell brass in the video
not quite haha
OMG FINALY A VID ON THIS IVE WANTED A ON THE DULLIST FOR SO LONG THX SM DAVID
I use the D3 as a utility. Traditional double pedal grooves I use both feet, and use the single/double option for effects and creative groove ideas.
To note on that Tri-pedal... the "white pads" are to face the head. 🙃
I think, if you had a double base drum and set it up on the left foot, and put a single on the right, you could use the right as normal, and then go heavy when applying the left.
it's a double-headed beater. the plastic side probably provides more attack than the felt side 🙃
you know estepario is going to make the triple sound like he created it! hes too GOOD!!!!
The sonor giant step twin effect pedal actually works. Unfortunately it was discontinued. You should find one of those.
I was starting to wonder if I was the only one who remembered that pedal or dreamed it haha
@@jumpup88 Thomas Lang made that pedal famous as seen on his first instructional DVD.
Dont forget the Mapex janus combination double bass pedal hi hat stand. Slave pedal could be swiveled back and forth from the hi hat stand to slave side pedal.
I love how your first instinct with the triple pedals was a quint groove because why not
The Gibraltar ultra-adjust was also an interesting pedal. A more adjustable hi hat stand with remote styling. They disappeared pretty quickly though since they were just in between markets enough to not have a market.
I have one of those Gibraltar ultra adjust hi hat stands in a closet right now. It always had a weird laggy feel.
@@JasonMcLemore yeah they did take a bit to get adjusted right, or maybe I got lucky. Worked well for a double bass kit to get the base of the stand and the hi-hat where you need it. either way remote hats work better anyways.
That was fantastic. Everything about this episode was spot on.
Ludwig Speed King is my favorite. The pedal is fast and simple.
Squeak king
Ludwig ghost pedal has got to be the smoothest pedal I’ve ever played.
@@timm1139 hope to try it out.
Missed the Sleishman Twin Pedal, which looks really weird.
Not the one you demo'd in the video, but the other heel-toe pedal you mentioned before the dualist pedals, I think would actually work incredibly well as a single pedal by blocking the normal pedal so it can't move and only using the heel pedal. I honestly think I'd have much more power and accuracy playing that way, just being able to keep the front of my foot planted and just dropping my heel down, kinda like how people shake their legs. Your top possible speed/bpm would go down as a result of not being able to do like heel-toe, but that's something I'd trade off tbh, and it's not like you'd be ridiculously slow either.
You should experiment with various cymbals on that triple hi-hat. See if you can make a better sound and what interesting weirdness you can come up with.
ive been binging old rdavidr fix my snare and vintage/cheap drumset restorations for the past week… I NEED MORE
just bought a blackrolite on reverb and am very excited to work on it
love the vids!
Where did this guy get a Scataylor drum pedal? Did he buy it at the hardware store?
You should try to find one of those Mapex Janus HiHat/Double pedals. I only ever saw the ad.
WHAT a cool channel and those HATS!!! Friggin awesome 🤘🤘
I think Sonor had a heel toe pedal, it was called Giant step or giant beat, should def review it Dave
I play Giant Step Twin Effect pedals, I LOVE them.
David does blast beats with a triple pedal. 2023 is officially awesome!
Amazing as always, loved the footnik beat!! Clean AF
9:44 I love the music you chose for your work adding the third beater! 😜
I really like the VRUK Drum master. I have a pair and I used them on a CD I recorded and got some really fast playing done with them. Sure, Mr Vruk has a humble website, but his product is really well made and works great if you take a little time to adjust to it. I got used to it in WAY less than three months.
I been loving the reviews on weird drums and such. But I am starting to miss all the crazy builds you used to have. I am just wondering when the next crazy drum build is gonna come? Don't worry if there isn't any coming soon. I was just wondering.
I love your videos❤ over the past couple of weeks I have binge watched all your videos!☺️
What a cool video! All drum and percussion enthusiasts around the world should be subscribed here!
Electronic music had this nailed. Particularly artist like Mr Bill and Tipper. Their sessions are literally organised as a drums buss, a subbass buss, and 'other shit'. Where they chop up a bunch of sound design improv to create a top layer.
Can you do one on weird snares. There are some notables that would be interesting:
Arbiter - Flats
Duplex - Spirit of St. Louis
Duplex - perforated shell
Taye - adjustable depth
SJC and Luka drums both did ones that were graduated sizes from top to bottom
Turbine snares
Spacer snares
There are so many it could be several parts
I think it would be interesting if you looked at a drum set by farmer foot drums, they are drum sets that you play with only your feet.
Pretty sure they're meant for string players to be able to accompany themselves, I'd still love to watch David try and play one though lol
Thank you for curing my fever at 1:50
Always happy seeing the Telstar getting some love
I’m in love with how that 10” top hat sounds on its own
Those are neat.
I had a Mapex Janus double pedal and transmission hi-hat all-in-one thing. It was neat. Pedals were super sluggish, and it's substantially more cumbersome in transport. It didn't add anything, but rather subtracted a footboard. I ended up selling it because I needed the money for other gear, otherwise I'd still have it for funsies.
There was a Gemini 241 (two for one, get it?) double single at a local music store when I was a kid. I think it came out slightly before the Dualist. The heel plate was the drive for the left beater. A salesman at the store bet me $20 that I couldn't play it because I was some dumb young kid and none of the kids could figure it out. I sat down and played it. He was mad that I played heel down, which is required to play the pedal. I told him to keep his money and stop being a jerk as my payment. If you want to play it as a single pedal, then play heel up. If you want to play it as a double pedal, then play heel down.
🚨 IDEA: Hi David, I have been walking arround with this idea for a long time now. Have no clue it already exists.
A pedal controlled throw-off for the snare.
I imagine it to be fitted with a cable like a remote hihat.
It would allow you to use the snare as a extra tom within breaks.
Dunno if it could work but it certainly would bring freedom.
It would be awesome if you could try this for your vids.
The abomination of the "triple-ist" pedal makes me realize what a true technical accomplishment quality double-pedals are. However...I now want to see RDR take two dualists (left & right) and make a quadruple pedal setup out of them :D
Couldn’t help but notice the handmade knife and 2x72 grinder in this vid. That’s awesome!
You, Sir,have definately found a special Niche in the drum video world!!! Love your Vids, But, I have to say, YOU'VE got some decent licks. keep it up.great stuff
listening on my phone, the duelist section just sounded like RIDE RIDE RIDE RIDE while I watched the beaters whack away
The problem with the Duallist D4 is that it needs a lot of setup. If you don't step correctly, neither beater gets to hit the head.
teasin us with that bronze snare
Dang, was hoping you'd review that Drumnetics magnetic/springless bass drum pedal that appeared in the world for a hot minute like 10 years ago.
They are still going
Hahaha, I remember when those Sabian Tri Hats came out... probably about 25 years ago now, I think they came out right about the same time as the Portnoy Max Stax... this is the first time I've ever actually seen/heard someone play the triple hats!
Portnoy uses the tri hats in the song "as I am". In the live at budokan dvd, you can see him play it during the part of the song where he's playing the snare rim.
I remember them too, right around 1998 the guys at my local music store had it display just because it was so laughable. I don't know if they ever even sold one.
Rdavidr is one of my favorite drummer that doesn't double bass drum.
yo that triple hihat sound when its loosened reminds me of an upside down china crash, i love that slosh
Ok I unironically love that triple high hat section
I still have several Ghost pedals and they were my go-to since the 80's and they are still very fast, smooth, and quiet. Have you done any videos on these? I admit I have not searched your channel to see.
You should be able to replace the spring on the Gibraltar Catapult pedal with a stronger one.
I remember that wacky triple hihat. And remember it having a very obscene price too, like $600 in 90-00s dollars.. is anyone old enough to remember a i think it was Gibraltar rack/riser system that pitched you, and your kit like 30⁰ backwards supposedly taking pressure off of your joints giving more speed and power
Are you thinking of Bob Gatzen's DrumFrame? That was an interesting idea, but seemed a bit too impractical for most gigging drummers. I believe Tony Royster Jr. used one (and possibly was an endorser) for a while.
@SeanD313 that's exactly it! I assumed it was a Gibraltar thing. GG!
600$ for 3 cymbals and a stand is about right, even in 90's dollars.
I think the last one you are supossed to play it the way I do heel toe (which I do wrong I think) you hit with the toe, and then let the ball of your feet fall flat, like the whole foot, no need to put the foot up and hit whith toes, idk how to explain it
I think I would be very good with the dualist and that last one due to how my feet are (which prevents me from playing normally), but I can't buy them sadly
Now after seeing that bass drum, you gotta make a video titled “Buying the weirdest bass drums EVER”
Dude, you have missed the Soho (or Stable) PD-333 which is a single pedal unit, but with a heel pedal AND 2 beaters. Used it many times once I got the hang of it to extensively play double bass metal style.
The cowbell is a winner for sure!
If Gibraltar modified that design it could be a beast.
The triple hats have promise.
The Opinel knife: 17/10
Dude, the Foot-Nik with cowbell sounds really great! Not gonna lie!
The sabian triple Hi hat stand could have a similar issue to my vintage hi hat with exposed springs stand. If you over tighten the bottom part of the stand it will seize up the stand.
Reviewed the Tri-hat and the Tripalist (as it was called back then) for a magazine when they came out. And the original Sonor giant step too. Suffice to say, I'm still playing regular pedals all these years later. The dualist pedal does work, but the second stroke is activated by a spring and that made it very hard to get even strokes. The Trihat was cool, but who really needs it. Messed around with the Vruk attachment (they where a bit more common in europe) and they would get a little less stiff over time. But again: who really needs it?
11:05 He has just launch a video with the triple pedal... Nailed it as a god!
You can try stronger spring for gibraltar pedal i think..
or rubber band, it may retract faster (?)
Bro that cowbell beat at 1:48 👌👌
Also that bass drum is shaped different
Dude, speaking of pedals, some how I got cable hi hat called the "Dixon" that apparently is a prototype for Gibraltar as I was told. (totally could be wrong) Correct me if wrong
The cable is broken (tracking a replacement down got me to the "prototype")
I don't have a kit anymore (trying to pay for Lasik surgery) and if you want this pedal, I will send it to you if you think it would be cool for content?
I play a Mapex Janus system where the hi hat pedal swivels into a second bass drum pedal, you should check it out.
That fuckin pedal on the bell is so incredible bro !
That first beat was fire !
My Rogers kit from the '70's had that dual sided beater like the Dualist.
yes... slauchie sounding triple hi-hat at maximum velocity sounds like the magic to me.
The ball at 1:15 looks like a giant rotten olive
For to mention it would have been great for you to try out the Mapex janus Ergo I think it was called. The double pedal to hi hat set from years ago.
I think the name was janus transmission hats. I played one many years ago and hate It 😂
I wonder if an air cylinder like in hatchback cars would work better for the catapult than the spring. The problem would be finding one the right size.