They don't sound too bad. The Evans sticker was a hilarious touch. I like your sense of humor. I'm curious to hear what they sound like using Evans Hydraulic heads.
I like how the snare sounds dry and punchy without sounding really cranked tight. It also has really clean overtones which might just be from the tuning. And you were right about the kit sounding very eighties, I was reminded of the drum sound on "I'll Wait."
They sound good. The thing with any pancake kit is the shell material really doesn’t matter. There is so little of it and no bottom head that it just isn’t doing much. I’ve got a bunch of random shells lying around, I need to make a kit like this to leave at our practice space.
I bought this set in the mid-90s. Stuck a set of rototoms above the rack toms and achieved infinite rolls. Was playing his pretty frequently with this thing for probably 8 or so years and fucking loved packing them in and out compared to standard kit. Thank you for this bit of nostalgia…when I sold that kit my wife told me I would regret it. She was not wrong.
BEFORE the Tama Club Jam/Cocktail Jam, the DW Low Pro, or even the Ludwig Questlove Breakbeats kit ... there was this. So goofy. But a lot of fun. Glad to see you shining light on (and enjoying) these drums, Dave!
I gigged with one of these kits for years in bars and clubs back in the 1990s and while no sound engineer ever thanked me for the paltry depth of the kick drum, it sounded great to me and was the best logistical decision I ever made as a working drummer. I went from being the first to arrive and last to leave guy to being mid-tier load in/out gent with the rest of the band. 100% satisfied with my purchase and thrilled to hear again the sound those shells made when being pulled out of the soft case.
OMG I'm in freakn tears here! That Magazine! I got given a pair of drumsticks, and a Modern Drummer magazine for Christmas, with a promise of a kit for my birthday. THAT"S THE MAGAZINE! I read that thing front to back 5000 times! There's a spread of HUGE kits in there from Pearl if memory is right. OMG DUDE!!! I cannot believe this.
I still have mine with the original hardware. I recently brought it in from my garage after years of having it stored there. I cleaned it using your cleaning tips. I updated my cymbals and pedal. Replaced all the heads. I used your recommended heads for the snare. However, I used Aquarian Studio heads for the toms and bass drum because I wanted to tune them lower to get a deeper warmer sound. I'm pretty happy with it. It's the only drum set my wife lets me keep inside the house because of its compact size it sounds great, and I'm pretty happy with it.
I recently refurbished a 1980s REMO Encore double bass kit that I scored for $300. REMO drums go for cheap money but they are for sure a hidden gem in the drumworld.
I bought some Toms and a Snare at a Goodwill for quite cheap, fourty something dollars! Years earlier, my dad bought me some drums at a Goodwill: One Floor Tom, One Snare, One Mounted Tom, One Bass Drum, One Crash/Ride Cymbal, and One Hi-Hat, along with a Snare Stand, Cymbal Stand, and Kick Pedal. Now I have a full on drum kit!Unfortunately though, I only have one Cymbal and it’s boring to play drums with one cymbal.
I have one of these and it’s amazing. I’ve used it on many gigs with great results. Use a REMO Muffl ring on the bass drum. Pinstripes on the toms. I upgraded the tom mounts to INDe mounts and L-arms.
I own one, love it! Takes a little to get used too, but great for small gigs. I also put mesh heads on it and it's the best practice kit for an apartment. I own a 90s Slingerland that was also made with Remo Acousticon shells. They can sound absolutely amazing with the right tuning and head combo.
Nice! The people I knew who’d actually played Acousticon kits said they were amazing. That tom sound you got was killer for any brand or era. There is something just right about Pins on 80s and 90s kits.
Now this brings back memories. Playing at my childhood church in the mid 90’s on this same exact kit. Now you’re making me want to find one!! It sounds amazing!!
The old REMO heads just got no-clipped into the backrooms with that move there Rdavidr... (seriously though that was a sick transition, props to the great video man!)
I do have that issue of MD and I played those REMOS back in the day at Atlanta Pro Percussion.... Oh the memories and the percussion shellless drum kit actually had a great sound. Gotta love the late 80s early 90s!
So excited to see this!! theres not many good recordings of Remo stuff out there but it normally sounds so good! I have 2 master touch snares and an 18, 10, 12, 14 master touch kit! love it!
I can tell you’re a super modest guy; most of your videos’ demos are usually very modest. This video’s demo seemed a bit more fun, I’d love to see you do more elaborate solos/demos.
I had a drum instructor/high school band director in the 90’s that had this kit. He had wooden prosthetics due to losing his legs in a car wreck, and could still transport and set these up himself (he kept his purple Premier’s from the 70’s at home). They sounded really nice and the concept was pretty well executed. Remo Acousticon drums are actually great sounding. Their later offerings were really nice kits, and they would custom make a wrap from any image you sent them. I really wish they’d taken off.
Damn, I'm impressed by the sound! :O The sound and mix of the toms is pretty 80's, but it's way better than I expected. Kick sounds solid. Snare sounds super!
Man, between David and Wade over at The Drum Thing/Garbage Stream they are keeping the world of cool, unusual and vintage gear alive and I love it. Always thought Remo made some really interesting drums but haven't had a chance to play any myself yet
I did something like this to an old Premier kit I bought from a friend for $100.00. The original kit was needing to be moved out every Tuesday for music night and it was just too damned heavy, so I created a jig for shell trimming on my table saw and went at it. Losing the lower head and half the shell for the toms lightened it up a LOT, and cutting the kick drum in half (but keeping both heads) made the set so light I could almost carry it with one hand. The Premier shells were also some sort of compressed cardboardy product, but before reinstalling the hardware, I painted the bare interior with a coat of "wood hardener" (no jokes, please) that permeated into the cardboard material and added some extra rigidity to the shells. I don't think the kit sounded any worse after the makeover, it saved my back and we used it for several years until my drummer buddy who was playing this kit deserted the band one night during practice. To save the band, I switched from playing guitar back to drums, but eventually brought my Yamaha Stage Custom kit out of storage and played that for the remaining years until Covid killed the band (not literally - we all lived). I sold the Franken-Premier kit for $150 on Craigslist!
Looking for a way to reduce the number of peices to transport, I bought a cheap set on ebay, cut the shells in half and use triggers so the audience still hears a good tone. Wrapped them in contact paper. None of these would I have done without the inspiration and guidance from you videos. I put a front head head on the BD and it sounds great. I have Evans coated G2 heads on the toms. They sound OK. There's only so much you can do with single heads and shallow shells. It's impossible not to think of "In the Air Tonight" when playing them. It works for me. Thanks David for the history lesson. Keep it up.
Amzing snare sound! I owned two Remo kits WAY back, so I can attest to their nice sound. The kit records exceptionally well. I'd say you have a WINNER!
I subscribed to MD back then, I was in high school then and don't specifically remember reading that article, but some of the ads brought back some memories!
Actually one cool ‘old school’ item Remo used to have was that contraption pictured on the kick drum in the Legero add: the donut ring muting system. It worked fantastic. The only problem was the plastic ring eventually cracked around the drum bearing edge and was useless. Remo also invented a dampening system (back then) that used cotton ‘snakes’ stuffed with beads, that were held in place by aluminum/Velcro brackets. They were used sitting against either the batter or reso head…or both. In fact, today I use a Dollar Mart door draft stopper for the same purpose. I tape one by the reso and one by the batter and my kick sounds killer. THAT’S a hack you should film and try!
I have a friend here in Brazil who had a kit exactly like this one, but in white. I used to borrow his kit, like a lot! Hehehehehehe Yes, the snare was the spotlight, really responsive and accurate tuning. The drum set itself wasn't bad at all. It comes down to one's expectations...that is what it is, a shallow drum set...if you're not expecting a huge sound...it's gonna work just fine. It worked just fine for me, back in the 90s.
Sounds great and the snare takes the cake. Back in ‘92, I bought a 5” deep Remo snare. It was a no-frills standard snare made out of their composite fiber and epoxy, but it was one of the best sounding and most versatile snares I’ve ever owned.
Wow, sounds really good with new heads .im 59 and I remember that when I was growing up I was so poor id cut drums in half and make a bigger set . I played a long time with no cymbals. Once no footpedel. But you learn a lot of cool beats . It made me better when I had a real set of drums. But I still miss the mix match sets I made , you value things more when it's something that you put together and worked to get the money to get the pieces to just make it work. No one ever took the time to help me or show me. I had to learn on my own. But it makes you value things more , not just money value, never had money like that. I'd collect pop bottles and sell them to buy little things to make my mixed up drums work. Lol most kids today just expect to have the best of everything and I teach my sons that you have to work to get the things you want. Life wasn't easy , do good things and good things happen.
AL FIN !!, thanks David ... i didn´t found one video dedicated to listen the remo legero. YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE. thanks to put it again on eyes from everyone. SOUNDS KILLER.
I've wanted one of these: it's the Pearl Rhythm Traveler way before that kit existed. And yours came with Pinstripes pre-fitted! And you're right: 3" is the smallest diameter difference that allows drums with regular hoops to nest. Frame drums nest a little better, but it's a different sound.
im so glad to finally see that snare somewhere! I have one and I actually love it. I choose it over high end snares for gigs and studio sessions all the time. such a weird drum but you can get it to pop!
I have a Tama Silverstar Cocktail Kit, you do still make some tonal sacrifices with nesting kits but honestly, I rarely host band prac at my place so the fact I can have my main kit set up at home and just take one shell bag, one hardware bag and one cymbal bag, and have it set up in someone else's house in about 5-6mins makes up for that. It's only practice anyway so I generally just rag the toms and don't worry about tuning too much. It was also great when I taught lessons in my spare room before COVID, let the student use the main kit and I'd sit at the cocktail to help break down concepts if they were ever stuck
I have a custom made nesting kit, with 22x16 bassdrum and 12x6 and 14x10 toms. The toms just go inside the bassdrum, which has been cut in half a little before the resonant heads lugs. There are 3 simple latches that you just open to open and close it, easy to use. Also there's the option to leave the bassdrum open, or use both of the sides as double bass drum. Saves a ton of space in the car when you can ditch two tom cases! Honestly one of the most resonant kits I've heard, but the shells are thin and all the hardware are made out of wood (and tom mounts out of aluminum), so they can resonate freely. Also the whole shebang weights less than my previous Pearl Vision 22" bassdrum. The bassdrum is a cannon, I can't perceive anything significant effect from cutting up the bassdrum, and the shallow toms don't have any drawbacks IMO. PS. Deeper toms might have a longer sustain, according to the old Drum Tuning Bible, but you can screw up sustain in any drum with bad tuning, so I'd say the benefit is theoretical at best.
I love that you put that snare with that kit, when you put those two together... it was Moi-der (That's how 80's this is). Joking apart that snare is delicious, though
I have the same kit with the original "brass" wrapped wood shell. Installed Pearl 7/8 tom mounts on the 10,13 & 16 Used it many a time for big band rehearsal you can make them sound pretty decent with careful tuning Sound neat with hydraulic heads Didn't get the bag when I purchased it, I had a fibre case made for the kick
I had one of these kits back in the day it was a phenomenal kit. I eventually swapped out the Legero bass drum for a regular bass drum and used the Legero toms. Quickest setup and breakdown times ever
added a 18x16 bass drum with a tom post bracket to attach 3 top toms to it(10-12-13). attached the 16 &18 inch to a stand. I had all the size's available at the time. made a great set for Fusion-Latin jazz with the bigger bass drum.
I had the same snare for years and it worked beautifully...when I remember all that talking about the wood type...some junk wood fiber and lot of glue and there you go...and the material is know as "acousticon" hehe
David, you should review a real nesting kit. I have the idea of one (need to get a 20"x16" bass drum) and use it with a Gibraltar Docking Station. Maximum portability
As an 80’s I love what Remo did back in the day. Remo made probably the best sets of the world. Acousticon is affordable to make and sounds killer!!! It was because of that they had to stop. Their head production contracts with other brands were in jeopardy. Also indeed check the FRP snares! Had a few and they were always killer. A perfect blend between wood and metal and not as high pitched as carbon fiber.
3:56 Swiss drummers in Basel on Fasnacht, one of the largest carnivals of the world. They march around the city playing drum and fifes for three days, and every clique is dressed all in same kind of costume like that one! Swiss rudimental drumming is pretty amazing, if you haven't heard it before, worth a check!
Wow those sound killer, or as always David makes them sound killer. I love concert toms and they're having a bit of a revival these days. Excellent video as always! 🤘😎🤘
I'm a guitarist, vocalist....admittedly, despite my son trying to teach me, I don't know my arse from a hole in the ground about drums, but, sonically, I know what I like. Those drums have a more than usable sound....and BTW, great playing mate.
Bought that snare in 1990. Sounded great. Be prepared for that bearing edge to collapse though. I sent it back to remo to get fixed. I guess the just put in their roller again because a few months later it did it again. Lesson learned. No cardboard drums.
You were killing me with the old Modern Drummer ads. I remember every single one, my friends and I used to devour that magazine every month and usually make fun of the ads. Bissonnette just brought up Robyn Flans in another video.
Sound great. And I love the wide tuning range of the Tom diameters - can’t remember the drummer, but he toured pop acts; but he used 10,13,15,18 Toms for this exact reason.
Nesting drums - I can recommend Jalapeno Custom Drums. They’re a small UK based company but make some fantastic kits, and Dave the owner has put a lot of time into developing nesting kits. Not sure how many there’ll be on your side of the pond though unfortunately, but worth a try!
I own a white one and I'm soooo glad I picked it up. A few months after I bought it be picked up a gig at a place where that stage that is only 8 by 10. Came in very handy and sounds amazing when it's unmiced, kick travels well and produces a ton of low end. I still play the 12" rack and floor sometimes with my 28" bass drum. They really do sound good, and the shallow tom is nice with my 28.
Around 1985-86, I had a Remo PTS drum set which was pre-tuned heads that were on there with quick locks it was okay. The worst part was buying the heads that were specific to that kit because it was a pretuned set and only held on by latches so the heads were already pre-tightened so it also made them a little more expensive.
I like this one more due to the sound & compact sizes of the drums more then those huge other 80's single headed kits you have featured, Cool find & video.
I finally managed to get my hands on a mastertouch piccolo snare, the same finish and size as you used in the video i think, and it sounds absolutely amazing. Now all that is left is trying to get the rest of a mastertouch kit
They don’t sound too bad. I took all my bottom heads off my first kit once- it was a mapex Venus from 1996, and it sounded horrible- I put the heads back on shortly after. Some drums are made for one head, many are not
Cool kit! My first kit was a big, heavy and beautiful Remo Acousticon, kept it for about 15 years. The upside was that it sounds great, the downside was the weight of the hardware.
This sounds great for what it is! I bought an old Pearl Rhythm Traveler kit for a home practice mesh head kit for €200. very similar sizes. I couldn’t believe how good it sounded with real heads on it! Temped to take the silentstrokes off after watching this 😂
I’d buy one in a heartbeat. I own the base Pearl compact traveler kit. It’s great for providing in-home lessons, and I find the kick always a great substitute when I’m low on space
Sounds pretty good! I used to have a Purecussion RIMS kit. It was...functional. Not great. I also used to have a 5.5" Yamaha FRP snare. THAT I miss. It did indeed have sustain for days. Plus it looked amazing; put a light under it and it glowed! I really wish I hadn't sold that one.
That’s cool…… I have that copy of Modern Drummer magazine! I only wish I had that drum set though 😢! Thank you for sharing this video and enjoy your drums!
What type of gig would you play this kit on? 🥞🤔
Alternative Polka.
Definitely a summer concert gig with a evening breeze and a beautiful sunset 👌
I'd do a middle eastern gig with this
I don't know but I feel like the tickets should be half off.
I have a similar old rusty Fame Practice Drumkit which a friend of mine gave me for free, so I play it on everything (It's my only kit).
this sounds way better than I expected. the snare is killer!
Agreed!!
I had one of these snares from new in the 90's. It came with a fibre skin batter head and sounded really nice!
That's because you're listening to thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment.
Not gonna lie David you have become my Saturday morning cartoons thanks for always putting out great shit man
Ditto!
Now you say it , the song played at the end sounds like the the intro to some early 90s kids tv show 😆
Yeah man it did like so early Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network
¡Hear hear!
They don't sound too bad. The Evans sticker was a hilarious touch. I like your sense of humor. I'm curious to hear what they sound like using Evans Hydraulic heads.
Those would probably work well on this kit. Theyre pretty punchy with the pinstripes, but hydraulics would add even more punch.
I thought the same and bought a set of clears. HORRIBLE RESULTS. Pins work much better. I love my Legero kit!
@@silvermineband2719evans two ply are punchy for me, you can even use them as you reso heads.
I like how the snare sounds dry and punchy without sounding really cranked tight. It also has really clean overtones which might just be from the tuning. And you were right about the kit sounding very eighties, I was reminded of the drum sound on "I'll Wait."
Roto toms! 😊 And I've always liked that song a lot, too! 😀👍
They sound good. The thing with any pancake kit is the shell material really doesn’t matter. There is so little of it and no bottom head that it just isn’t doing much. I’ve got a bunch of random shells lying around, I need to make a kit like this to leave at our practice space.
I bought this set in the mid-90s. Stuck a set of rototoms above the rack toms and achieved infinite rolls. Was playing his pretty frequently with this thing for probably 8 or so years and fucking loved packing them in and out compared to standard kit. Thank you for this bit of nostalgia…when I sold that kit my wife told me I would regret it. She was not wrong.
BEFORE the Tama Club Jam/Cocktail Jam, the DW Low Pro, or even the Ludwig Questlove Breakbeats kit ... there was this. So goofy. But a lot of fun. Glad to see you shining light on (and enjoying) these drums, Dave!
TIMBOOOOOO
I need a Tim & David collab in the future pls. Yall would be hilarious
@@Thomas-Drums Yo! That would be amazing! 😂❤️👊
If David meets Timbo up in Keno I’ll come up from Chicago and volunteer to film it!!!
@@tyrustucker YES! 😂❤️
I gigged with one of these kits for years in bars and clubs back in the 1990s and while no sound engineer ever thanked me for the paltry depth of the kick drum, it sounded great to me and was the best logistical decision I ever made as a working drummer.
I went from being the first to arrive and last to leave guy to being mid-tier load in/out gent with the rest of the band.
100% satisfied with my purchase and thrilled to hear again the sound those shells made when being pulled out of the soft case.
OMG I'm in freakn tears here! That Magazine! I got given a pair of drumsticks, and a Modern Drummer magazine for Christmas, with a promise of a kit for my birthday. THAT"S THE MAGAZINE! I read that thing front to back 5000 times! There's a spread of HUGE kits in there from Pearl if memory is right. OMG DUDE!!! I cannot believe this.
Nothing better on a rainy day than pulling out the MD back issues. 😊
I still have mine with the original hardware. I recently brought it in from my garage after years of having it stored there. I cleaned it using your cleaning tips. I updated my cymbals and pedal. Replaced all the heads. I used your recommended heads for the snare. However, I used Aquarian Studio heads for the toms and bass drum because I wanted to tune them lower to get a deeper warmer sound. I'm pretty happy with it. It's the only drum set my wife lets me keep inside the house because of its compact size it sounds great, and I'm pretty happy with it.
That sounded surprisingly good. I thought it was going to sound like a cardboard kit 😂
Keep in mind his microphone kit cost like $1200, I’m sure it sounds like shit from the drummers perspective
@@TylerPresents Garbage in, garbage out.
@@BoojayDeeth Mr Sibley?
I recently refurbished a 1980s REMO Encore double bass kit that I scored for $300. REMO drums go for cheap money but they are for sure a hidden gem in the drumworld.
David never fails to pull together an original and funky groove that perfectly suits whatever weird kit he’s playing. Brilliant stuff.
I bought some Toms and a Snare at a Goodwill for quite cheap, fourty something dollars! Years earlier, my dad bought me some drums at a Goodwill: One Floor Tom, One Snare, One Mounted Tom, One Bass Drum, One Crash/Ride Cymbal, and One Hi-Hat, along with a Snare Stand, Cymbal Stand, and Kick Pedal. Now I have a full on drum kit!Unfortunately though, I only have one Cymbal and it’s boring to play drums with one cymbal.
I have one of these and it’s amazing. I’ve used it on many gigs with great results. Use a REMO Muffl ring on the bass drum. Pinstripes on the toms. I upgraded the tom mounts to INDe mounts and L-arms.
I own one, love it! Takes a little to get used too, but great for small gigs. I also put mesh heads on it and it's the best practice kit for an apartment. I own a 90s Slingerland that was also made with Remo Acousticon shells. They can sound absolutely amazing with the right tuning and head combo.
Nice! The people I knew who’d actually played Acousticon kits said they were amazing. That tom sound you got was killer for any brand or era. There is something just right about Pins on 80s and 90s kits.
That sounds way better than I thought it would. Must be that Evans drum head on the kick
Saturday morning were never this good until I found David’s channel.
Thanks for the weekend posts always coming in clutch.
Now this brings back memories. Playing at my childhood church in the mid 90’s on this same exact kit. Now you’re making me want to find one!! It sounds amazing!!
The old REMO heads just got no-clipped into the backrooms with that move there Rdavidr...
(seriously though that was a sick transition, props to the great video man!)
I played one of those Remo Legero kits, waaaaay back in 1992. I liked it but the price that the music store was asking was effing outrageous... $700!!
I paid 500 bucks !! I still have mine !
Little over $1500 in millennium monies
Nice. An Evans sticker for a Remo drum kit. Lol. 😂
I almost threw my phone in disgust
I do have that issue of MD and I played those REMOS back in the day at Atlanta Pro Percussion.... Oh the memories and the percussion shellless drum kit actually had a great sound. Gotta love the late 80s early 90s!
This kit sounds HUGE. Perhaps the ultimate drum tone lies beyond the laws of physics: drums so shallow they occupy *negative space*
So excited to see this!! theres not many good recordings of Remo stuff out there but it normally sounds so good! I have 2 master touch snares and an 18, 10, 12, 14 master touch kit! love it!
Used to drool over photos of the Black Prismatic finish.
I don't really like the "top only" drums, but this kit sounds DOPE! Would definitelly use it for a retrowave/synthwave situation
I use these and a Pearl Rythm Traveler for weddings and tight spaces. When tuned correctly they sound really good.
I can tell you’re a super modest guy; most of your videos’ demos are usually very modest. This video’s demo seemed a bit more fun, I’d love to see you do more elaborate solos/demos.
I had a drum instructor/high school band director in the 90’s that had this kit. He had wooden prosthetics due to losing his legs in a car wreck, and could still transport and set these up himself (he kept his purple Premier’s from the 70’s at home). They sounded really nice and the concept was pretty well executed.
Remo Acousticon drums are actually great sounding. Their later offerings were really nice kits, and they would custom make a wrap from any image you sent them. I really wish they’d taken off.
Damn, I'm impressed by the sound! :O
The sound and mix of the toms is pretty 80's, but it's way better than I expected. Kick sounds solid. Snare sounds super!
Man, between David and Wade over at The Drum Thing/Garbage Stream they are keeping the world of cool, unusual and vintage gear alive and I love it. Always thought Remo made some really interesting drums but haven't had a chance to play any myself yet
I audibly yelled “NO!!!” when you put the Evans decal on.
I got a pair of K/Z for christmas when I was 13 (1989). I'm 47 and I still have them and still use them. They sound KILLER!
I did something like this to an old Premier kit I bought from a friend for $100.00. The original kit was needing to be moved out every Tuesday for music night and it was just too damned heavy, so I created a jig for shell trimming on my table saw and went at it. Losing the lower head and half the shell for the toms lightened it up a LOT, and cutting the kick drum in half (but keeping both heads) made the set so light I could almost carry it with one hand.
The Premier shells were also some sort of compressed cardboardy product, but before reinstalling the hardware, I painted the bare interior with a coat of "wood hardener" (no jokes, please) that permeated into the cardboard material and added some extra rigidity to the shells. I don't think the kit sounded any worse after the makeover, it saved my back and we used it for several years until my drummer buddy who was playing this kit deserted the band one night during practice. To save the band, I switched from playing guitar back to drums, but eventually brought my Yamaha Stage Custom kit out of storage and played that for the remaining years until Covid killed the band (not literally - we all lived). I sold the Franken-Premier kit for $150 on Craigslist!
Looking for a way to reduce the number of peices to transport, I bought a cheap set on ebay, cut the shells in half and use triggers so the audience still hears a good tone. Wrapped them in contact paper. None of these would I have done without the inspiration and guidance from you videos. I put a front head head on the BD and it sounds great. I have Evans coated G2 heads on the toms. They sound OK. There's only so much you can do with single heads and shallow shells. It's impossible not to think of "In the Air Tonight" when playing them. It works for me. Thanks David for the history lesson. Keep it up.
Amzing snare sound! I owned two Remo kits WAY back, so I can attest to their nice sound. The kit records exceptionally well. I'd say you have a WINNER!
I subscribed to MD back then, I was in high school then and don't specifically remember reading that article, but some of the ads brought back some memories!
Actually one cool ‘old school’ item Remo used to have was that contraption pictured on the kick drum in the Legero add: the donut ring muting system. It worked fantastic. The only problem was the plastic ring eventually cracked around the drum bearing edge and was useless. Remo also invented a dampening system (back then) that used cotton ‘snakes’ stuffed with beads, that were held in place by aluminum/Velcro brackets. They were used sitting against either the batter or reso head…or both. In fact, today I use a Dollar Mart door draft stopper for the same purpose. I tape one by the reso and one by the batter and my kick sounds killer.
THAT’S a hack you should film and try!
I remember that Rick Steel ad! I think I had that '91 modern drummer mag! You are right - all mounted floor toms and racks and racks and racks.
I have a friend here in Brazil who had a kit exactly like this one, but in white.
I used to borrow his kit, like a lot! Hehehehehehe
Yes, the snare was the spotlight, really responsive and accurate tuning.
The drum set itself wasn't bad at all. It comes down to one's expectations...that is what it is, a shallow drum set...if you're not expecting a huge sound...it's gonna work just fine.
It worked just fine for me, back in the 90s.
Sounds great and the snare takes the cake. Back in ‘92, I bought a 5” deep Remo snare. It was a no-frills standard snare made out of their composite fiber and epoxy, but it was one of the best sounding and most versatile snares I’ve ever owned.
Wow, sounds really good with new heads .im 59 and I remember that when I was growing up I was so poor id cut drums in half and make a bigger set . I played a long time with no cymbals. Once no footpedel. But you learn a lot of cool beats . It made me better when I had a real set of drums. But I still miss the mix match sets I made , you value things more when it's something that you put together and worked to get the money to get the pieces to just make it work. No one ever took the time to help me or show me. I had to learn on my own. But it makes you value things more , not just money value, never had money like that. I'd collect pop bottles and sell them to buy little things to make my mixed up drums work. Lol most kids today just expect to have the best of everything and I teach my sons that you have to work to get the things you want. Life wasn't easy , do good things and good things happen.
I must say, that youve got the best full tom/drumset grooves out there. Best on RUclips for sure! Akin to Peart and Collins!
I love listening to how your playing has evolved since your first video!
Love the Tama Bell brass just casually chilling in the background, can't wait for that video
I almost jumped out my second story window when he put the Evans decal on the at kit 😂
AL FIN !!, thanks David ... i didn´t found one video dedicated to listen the remo legero. YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE. thanks to put it again on eyes from everyone. SOUNDS KILLER.
I've wanted one of these: it's the Pearl Rhythm Traveler way before that kit existed. And yours came with Pinstripes pre-fitted! And you're right: 3" is the smallest diameter difference that allows drums with regular hoops to nest. Frame drums nest a little better, but it's a different sound.
im so glad to finally see that snare somewhere! I have one and I actually love it. I choose it over high end snares for gigs and studio sessions all the time. such a weird drum but you can get it to pop!
I have a Tama Silverstar Cocktail Kit, you do still make some tonal sacrifices with nesting kits but honestly, I rarely host band prac at my place so the fact I can have my main kit set up at home and just take one shell bag, one hardware bag and one cymbal bag, and have it set up in someone else's house in about 5-6mins makes up for that. It's only practice anyway so I generally just rag the toms and don't worry about tuning too much.
It was also great when I taught lessons in my spare room before COVID, let the student use the main kit and I'd sit at the cocktail to help break down concepts if they were ever stuck
I’m convinced every drum kit sounds amazing with David playing it
I have a custom made nesting kit, with 22x16 bassdrum and 12x6 and 14x10 toms. The toms just go inside the bassdrum, which has been cut in half a little before the resonant heads lugs. There are 3 simple latches that you just open to open and close it, easy to use. Also there's the option to leave the bassdrum open, or use both of the sides as double bass drum. Saves a ton of space in the car when you can ditch two tom cases!
Honestly one of the most resonant kits I've heard, but the shells are thin and all the hardware are made out of wood (and tom mounts out of aluminum), so they can resonate freely. Also the whole shebang weights less than my previous Pearl Vision 22" bassdrum. The bassdrum is a cannon, I can't perceive anything significant effect from cutting up the bassdrum, and the shallow toms don't have any drawbacks IMO.
PS. Deeper toms might have a longer sustain, according to the old Drum Tuning Bible, but you can screw up sustain in any drum with bad tuning, so I'd say the benefit is theoretical at best.
I love that you put that snare with that kit, when you put those two together... it was Moi-der (That's how 80's this is). Joking apart that snare is delicious, though
I remember seeing this kit in the drum magazines back in the day! Was really cool to see it in action here.
I have the same kit with the original "brass" wrapped wood shell.
Installed Pearl 7/8 tom mounts on the 10,13 & 16
Used it many a time for big band rehearsal
you can make them sound pretty decent with careful tuning
Sound neat with hydraulic heads
Didn't get the bag when I purchased it, I had a fibre case made for the kick
That sounds incredible! You had a smile on the whole song. 😆. Love it.
I had one of these kits back in the day it was a phenomenal kit. I eventually swapped out the Legero bass drum for a regular bass drum and used the Legero toms. Quickest setup and breakdown times ever
Hahahaha that is the first MD Magazine I ever bought. I still have it and it's hilarious looking at those old ads. Great video.
To me it sounds phenomenal in the music at the end! Punchy, warm, rich. Very well done!
I love looking at old music magazines and seeing the now retro ways of doing things. It's honestly still fun doing things that way too! Lol
added a 18x16 bass drum with a tom post bracket to attach 3 top toms to it(10-12-13). attached the 16 &18 inch to a stand. I had all the size's available at the time. made a great set for Fusion-Latin jazz with the bigger bass drum.
I had the same snare for years and it worked beautifully...when I remember all that talking about the wood type...some junk wood fiber and lot of glue and there you go...and the material is know as "acousticon" hehe
Yet another well-done rescue. I remember seeing adds for those kits too, but I've never played one.
David, you should review a real nesting kit. I have the idea of one (need to get a 20"x16" bass drum) and use it with a Gibraltar Docking Station. Maximum portability
This looks perfect for an A to E conversion project.
I got a Peavey drum kit in 03 that had mounted floor toms, and then a pacific kit in the 2000s also with mounted floor toms.
Back to the future, retro hipster 80’s sounding traveling kit. Killer snare. I just picked up my first Ludwig Piccolo off your dumpster snare revival.
As an 80’s I love what Remo did back in the day.
Remo made probably the best sets of the world.
Acousticon is affordable to make and sounds killer!!!
It was because of that they had to stop.
Their head production contracts with other brands were in jeopardy.
Also indeed check the FRP snares! Had a few and they were always killer.
A perfect blend between wood and metal and not as high pitched as carbon fiber.
3:56 Swiss drummers in Basel on Fasnacht, one of the largest carnivals of the world. They march around the city playing drum and fifes for three days, and every clique is dressed all in same kind of costume like that one! Swiss rudimental drumming is pretty amazing, if you haven't heard it before, worth a check!
Is it bad that I actually really love how this sounds
like this is such an 80s sound and i absolutely love it for that
Wow those sound killer, or as always David makes them sound killer. I love concert toms and they're having a bit of a revival these days. Excellent video as always! 🤘😎🤘
That evens decal got me so good!! 😂
All of a sudden OCD kicked into overdrive!
Another great video
I'm a guitarist, vocalist....admittedly, despite my son trying to teach me, I don't know my arse from a hole in the ground about drums, but, sonically, I know what I like. Those drums have a more than usable sound....and BTW, great playing mate.
Bought that snare in 1990. Sounded great. Be prepared for that bearing edge to collapse though. I sent it back to remo to get fixed. I guess the just put in their roller again because a few months later it did it again. Lesson learned. No cardboard drums.
You were killing me with the old Modern Drummer ads. I remember every single one, my friends and I used to devour that magazine every month and usually make fun of the ads.
Bissonnette just brought up Robyn Flans in another video.
Sound great. And I love the wide tuning range of the Tom diameters - can’t remember the drummer, but he toured pop acts; but he used 10,13,15,18 Toms for this exact reason.
I had that drum kit when it was brand new. The snare drum still sounds awesome after all these years.
The technical term for the material used is micarta... it's actually a very strong material so would probably hold up well
Nesting drums - I can recommend Jalapeno Custom Drums. They’re a small UK based company but make some fantastic kits, and Dave the owner has put a lot of time into developing nesting kits. Not sure how many there’ll be on your side of the pond though unfortunately, but worth a try!
I can imagine someone using those shells as the basis of an electronic kit. That snare sounds amazing
I own a white one and I'm soooo glad I picked it up. A few months after I bought it be picked up a gig at a place where that stage that is only 8 by 10. Came in very handy and sounds amazing when it's unmiced, kick travels well and produces a ton of low end. I still play the 12" rack and floor sometimes with my 28" bass drum. They really do sound good, and the shallow tom is nice with my 28.
Who...me!?!?
@rdavidr
Is this a scam or something?
Around 1985-86, I had a Remo PTS drum set which was pre-tuned heads that were on there with quick locks it was okay. The worst part was buying the heads that were specific to that kit because it was a pretuned set and only held on by latches so the heads were already pre-tightened so it also made them a little more expensive.
i played an old Remo quadura drumset and i loved it, the sound was like equalized without any mic or anything
I like this one more due to the sound & compact sizes of the drums more then those huge other 80's single headed kits you have featured, Cool find & video.
I finally managed to get my hands on a mastertouch piccolo snare, the same finish and size as you used in the video i think, and it sounds absolutely amazing. Now all that is left is trying to get the rest of a mastertouch kit
I’d love to dig up an old acousticon shell double-headed kick and floor tom to match up with the rack toms
Yes. That 16" just wants a bottom head. The 10" and 13" are fine. It'd be like Rototoms up top and a traditional floor.
They don’t sound too bad. I took all my bottom heads off my first kit once- it was a mapex Venus from 1996, and it sounded horrible- I put the heads back on shortly after. Some drums are made for one head, many are not
Cool kit!
My first kit was a big, heavy and beautiful Remo Acousticon, kept it for about 15 years.
The upside was that it sounds great, the downside was the weight of the hardware.
the addition of the Evans decal is hilarious...and I love it. ;-)
the evans kick drum logo😂
This sounds great for what it is! I bought an old Pearl Rhythm Traveler kit for a home practice mesh head kit for €200. very similar sizes. I couldn’t believe how good it sounded with real heads on it! Temped to take the silentstrokes off after watching this 😂
I’d buy one in a heartbeat. I own the base Pearl compact traveler kit. It’s great for providing in-home lessons, and I find the kick always a great substitute when I’m low on space
Sounds amazing! Remo drums was my first drumset brand ever first starting off!
your taste in music for showing kits is spot on! the sound of this kit sucks hahah but you found a way to make it shine!
I have this kit in white- Love it!
I added Remo coated white pinstripe heads…
Sounds pretty good! I used to have a Purecussion RIMS kit. It was...functional. Not great. I also used to have a 5.5" Yamaha FRP snare. THAT I miss. It did indeed have sustain for days. Plus it looked amazing; put a light under it and it glowed! I really wish I hadn't sold that one.
I don't know about this kit but mounted floor toms are the best and comfiest.
That’s cool…… I have that copy of Modern Drummer magazine! I only wish I had that drum set though 😢! Thank you for sharing this video and enjoy your drums!