For my money, I would gladly pay more for something that requires less maintenance, rather than the opposite! Finding that “sweet spot” is essential. It should be stylish and well made enough, yet not require super high maintenance.
Not all expensive trousers are high maintenance though. I have a pair of Acronym P10's which I wear regularly but as the materials they use are usually highly water and abrasion resistant, plus also having super high build quality, they always look practically new after a wash. Granted, not everyone is into that kind of technical aesthetic but they also have quite a few flexible items in their roster, that can let themselves to a number of different fit styles.
Ok have to say only 30 seconds in and the production of outside filming looks great! I know it's not always the easiest but really started this video off well!
Great video, thought about this myself with purchasing FOG Mainline items on sale ($238 vs $795 for cargos) vs affordable alternatives that make more sense for most people's closets/wallets. Buying a higher quality/designed item like you showed may flow/drape better and when cared for well, gives you more value over time and per wear. However, people have to decide if the affordable aesthetic makes more sense right now for them as they fund other things beyond their dream wardrobe, or if they are willing to save up for those higher cost pieces they're willing to take care of so they last and complement their dream look each wear.
500 bucks for some trousers. Nah I would use that money on top or outwear or even shoes and buy regular pants. No one's gonna know they are 500 bucks or 50 bucks.
I own a pair of issey pleats, I've accidentally slept in them a few times and the pleating does flatten out but not drastically. The butt and knees area do feel more flatten but it still looks nicely pleated. So I don't think you always have to baby the pleats, they're still very nice pants that can be worn for long durations.
Those draw strings are a savior, help tighten things up a bit if it's a bit loose. Also if you fluctuate between weights like I have, it's a neato feature.
great timing I was looking for a video like this. because of you I've been eyeing to get my first pleated wide trousers as all my pants currently are tapered (jeans,cargos,joggers). I personally like the olive clothing one the most as i like the cut but the uniqlo one would probably be a good start for me xD
JT. Man, this Video is a Tour De Force 💥😎 re: Subject, Presentation, Content, Photography, Pacing, Location Filming, etc. -- All Top Quality -- in fact, I feel that it is a better Video, than I have seen from some of your previously Stated Favorite Peers -- Dude, I feel like a Proud Parent. !!!!! 💥💥💥💥💥. I prefer the H&M & Uniqlo pants -- I don't want to spend $500 & apply that much effort to maintain, however, the IM pants truly look DOPE !
My problem with pants as a larger guy, is finding pants that are high waisted, have room in the thigh, but aren't super baggy in the bottom leg. It feels impossible to find a pair like this. I can never find anything with enough thigh room to be comfortable enough for me to want to buy. I've found a few pairs of womens pants that are high waisted and have room in the thigh... but being almost 6ft, they never go down far enough and show more skin than I'd like, personally. If you have any recommendations for pants that do have thigh room and are high-waisted, I would love to hear about it because so far, no luck!
You could try drop crotch pants. As a big buy myself I love them. Since the crotch is so low it allows you to pull them basicsally as high as you'd like, not only that but they allow you to really mess with the proportions of your fit and silhouette
have you looked the levis 541 i think its a athletic fit with a taper at the bottom or the 551z which is a 501 except bagger. Also the levi apps runs 50 + 20% off all the time so you can aquire some for around 15-30 bucks when they on average are 90
Appreciate the replies, guys. I'd go for Levi's if I knew they'd fit, but, as I said, it's a thigh room problem. I'll look into drop crotch and see if that can help solve my problem, thanks for the idea. And yeah, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and go to a tailor, but here's hoping I can find a more inexpensive option!
Teslas? Good quality? Did I step into a bizarro dimension? Comparison aside, I see the value of $500 pants with an iconic design like that but it seems like too much for something I would be afraid to wear outside unless the weather is perfect and I'm not doing anything that might get them dirty or damaged. I'd rather spend that kind of money on jackets, knitwear or coats. I have a few pairs of trousers from Olive or other brands that cost a bit more, but 9/10 no one I know is going to notice the difference.
Uniqlo is timeless. Uniqlo drawstrings on those smart trousers are good. It means I don't need to use a belt (clean look). Belts can sometimes ruin a fit. I'm in between medium and small so I buy medium. Olive looks cool but that brand is not available in my country. Maybe COS is equivalent to Olive here. That Issey Miyake needs too much care. LOL! I have my eyes on my first $$$$ Yohji Yamamoto pants. Fit #1 Olive. The shape stands out since you just wore a simple t-shirt. Fit #2 Uniqlo. Contrasting proportions to your wide shirt. Fit #3. (sad to say) H&M .The long coat overpowers the interesting shapes of Olive and Miyake. Uniqlo, Olive, Issey Miyake are cropped pants so longer pants seem to give a more balanced look. Fit #4. Olive or Miyake. A wide shape goes well with the boots you are wearing.
No. It is NEVER worth spending that much on any piece of clothing. The only way people should be spending this much on clothing is if they earn a shit ton and have liquid savings/emergency funds ready in the bank.
I’m in the process of planning a haul of trousers from Olive Clothing, so would absolutely LOVE to see a video on these. Specifically, how they fit given that most are one size/length and I’m similar in height and build to you (5’7”). Keep up the great work Johnny 🙌
I just bought some enfin leve aietes for 495€ and i gotta say, best pants i own outside acronym so yeah sometimes the more you pay the better stuff you get. I judge my clothes really hard since materials and stitching is really important to me next to design.
I've got a few homme plisse pants and tops. I never baby them. I wear them a lot too as they are my go-to during summer (super breathable) and I definitely don't wash after every wear. More durable than they get credit for.
Hey man the filter you used to compare each pair of pants, especially when all the pants are black. It is really hard to see the details and tells them apart, creating wrong perceptions of the garments. imo.
i feel like the quality of the 500 dollar one is definitely better but not 5x the price of the olive pants. with issey miyake and other designer brands you are paying for the name…
for people needed a quick answer of course spending 500$ on a product you will probably not wear more than a year or to is not worth it. wake up people
This is the motivation I needed for 2023. I had stitched 105 jackets in between 4 years of procrastinating on starting a youtube channel.on men's African-inspired fashion This year I am determined,. Thanks, Tim I have watched you for years.
Definitely the Homme Plisse, it’s the most versatile and most unique, two good reasons it is the best out of all three. Sure everything beautiful needs care, whether it’s a garden or any equipment, I personally don’t make a decision to owe something just because it needs care particularly if it is a good product.
The olive trousers are a great compromise between both and for a reasonable price! The ones from ssense are a bit much and very impractical in terms of wearability and if ever something happens you lost 500$
I dont have to watch the video to know that the answer is NO. You probably can get something similar for five times less. Even if you make 200k a year, its just a waste of money. Better invest them or something lol
What is your pick? Do you think the Issey Miyake trousers are worth it? If you haven't already, follow me on Instagram: bit.ly/JohnnyInsta 🙏
i agree the uniqlo and issey miyake trousers are the best . another banger vid🔥
Hands down the homme plisses
Got 2 pairs in to start with
Now I got 4 pairs in rotation
For my money, I would gladly pay more for something that requires less maintenance, rather than the opposite!
Finding that “sweet spot” is essential. It should be stylish and well made enough, yet not require super high maintenance.
That’s the reason I’ve been digging Carhartt WIP lately.
Not all expensive trousers are high maintenance though. I have a pair of Acronym P10's which I wear regularly but as the materials they use are usually highly water and abrasion resistant, plus also having super high build quality, they always look practically new after a wash. Granted, not everyone is into that kind of technical aesthetic but they also have quite a few flexible items in their roster, that can let themselves to a number of different fit styles.
Ok have to say only 30 seconds in and the production of outside filming looks great! I know it's not always the easiest but really started this video off well!
Great video, thought about this myself with purchasing FOG Mainline items on sale ($238 vs $795 for cargos) vs affordable alternatives that make more sense for most people's closets/wallets. Buying a higher quality/designed item like you showed may flow/drape better and when cared for well, gives you more value over time and per wear. However, people have to decide if the affordable aesthetic makes more sense right now for them as they fund other things beyond their dream wardrobe, or if they are willing to save up for those higher cost pieces they're willing to take care of so they last and complement their dream look each wear.
500 bucks for some trousers. Nah I would use that money on top or outwear or even shoes and buy regular pants. No one's gonna know they are 500 bucks or 50 bucks.
@@latenotice7254 there are better options out there then these I feel. Why would you pay 500 and then worry about the quality.
@@latenotice7254theres a difference between appreciating it and then having the luxury to even consider buying it
I own a pair of issey pleats, I've accidentally slept in them a few times and the pleating does flatten out but not drastically. The butt and knees area do feel more flatten but it still looks nicely pleated. So I don't think you always have to baby the pleats, they're still very nice pants that can be worn for long durations.
Yeah, IS is just covering their butt when it comes to consumer lawsuits. Extreme care instructions reduce the designer’s liability
I’ve had a similar experience so far. Thanks for your insight!
Those draw strings are a savior, help tighten things up a bit if it's a bit loose. Also if you fluctuate between weights like I have, it's a neato feature.
That makes perfect sense. Didn’t think about that
great timing I was looking for a video like this. because of you I've been eyeing to get my first pleated wide trousers as all my pants currently are tapered (jeans,cargos,joggers). I personally like the olive clothing one the most as i like the cut but the uniqlo one would probably be a good start for me xD
JT. Man, this Video is a Tour De Force 💥😎 re: Subject, Presentation, Content, Photography, Pacing, Location Filming, etc. -- All Top Quality -- in fact, I feel that it is a better Video, than I have seen from some of your previously Stated Favorite Peers -- Dude, I feel like a Proud Parent. !!!!! 💥💥💥💥💥. I prefer the H&M & Uniqlo pants -- I don't want to spend $500 & apply that much effort to maintain, however, the IM pants truly look DOPE !
My problem with pants as a larger guy, is finding pants that are high waisted, have room in the thigh, but aren't super baggy in the bottom leg. It feels impossible to find a pair like this. I can never find anything with enough thigh room to be comfortable enough for me to want to buy. I've found a few pairs of womens pants that are high waisted and have room in the thigh... but being almost 6ft, they never go down far enough and show more skin than I'd like, personally.
If you have any recommendations for pants that do have thigh room and are high-waisted, I would love to hear about it because so far, no luck!
You could try drop crotch pants. As a big buy myself I love them. Since the crotch is so low it allows you to pull them basicsally as high as you'd like, not only that but they allow you to really mess with the proportions of your fit and silhouette
have you looked the levis 541 i think its a athletic fit with a taper at the bottom or the 551z which is a 501 except bagger. Also the levi apps runs 50 + 20% off all the time so you can aquire some for around 15-30 bucks when they on average are 90
Appreciate the replies, guys. I'd go for Levi's if I knew they'd fit, but, as I said, it's a thigh room problem.
I'll look into drop crotch and see if that can help solve my problem, thanks for the idea.
And yeah, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and go to a tailor, but here's hoping I can find a more inexpensive option!
@@soap2630 it cosy nothing, you take a pant that fit your thights and then you ask to the tailor to shorten it or taper it, cost only 10-15…
Teslas? Good quality? Did I step into a bizarro dimension? Comparison aside, I see the value of $500 pants with an iconic design like that but it seems like too much for something I would be afraid to wear outside unless the weather is perfect and I'm not doing anything that might get them dirty or damaged. I'd rather spend that kind of money on jackets, knitwear or coats. I have a few pairs of trousers from Olive or other brands that cost a bit more, but 9/10 no one I know is going to notice the difference.
Honestly the zara pleated trousers I got from like one or two seasons ago does the job and I don’t have to baby them
Uniqlo is timeless. Uniqlo drawstrings on those smart trousers are good. It means I don't need to use a belt (clean look). Belts can sometimes ruin a fit. I'm in between medium and small so I buy medium. Olive looks cool but that brand is not available in my country. Maybe COS is equivalent to Olive here. That Issey Miyake needs too much care. LOL! I have my eyes on my first $$$$ Yohji Yamamoto pants.
Fit #1 Olive. The shape stands out since you just wore a simple t-shirt.
Fit #2 Uniqlo. Contrasting proportions to your wide shirt.
Fit #3. (sad to say) H&M .The long coat overpowers the interesting shapes of Olive and Miyake. Uniqlo, Olive, Issey Miyake are cropped pants so longer pants seem to give a more balanced look.
Fit #4. Olive or Miyake. A wide shape goes well with the boots you are wearing.
You’re def right about the drawstrings. I always buy pants that don’t require a best but that makes perfect sense
So Issey Miyake trousers are like the new common projects, right??
wheres the jacket at 6:18 from?
Great video love your style my first time on your channel 👏👍🙏🇬🇧
I'm saving up for the Miyake's, (my favorite) though I'll probably also get some 511 cargo pants to alternate so I won't wear em out as quickly
No. It is NEVER worth spending that much on any piece of clothing.
The only way people should be spending this much on clothing is if they earn a shit ton and have liquid savings/emergency funds ready in the bank.
"lets hope this video pays off my trousers" -proceeds to get 11k views
☠️☠️☠️
Hi Man love your videos🔥🔥
Can you make a video on ur sneakers collection would love to se it
Are there any similar brands to oliveclothing that's based in US? Their shipping is a little expensive
Okay so I'm not the only one who overpaid for Issey pants 😭
Now I feel better that I'm not the only one too 🙏😅
Once you hit $150 on any clothing item you run into exponentially diminishing returns.
I’m in the process of planning a haul of trousers from Olive Clothing, so would absolutely LOVE to see a video on these. Specifically, how they fit given that most are one size/length and I’m similar in height and build to you (5’7”). Keep up the great work Johnny 🙌
The uniqlo and issey miyake are dope
I just bought some enfin leve aietes for 495€ and i gotta say, best pants i own outside acronym so yeah sometimes the more you pay the better stuff you get.
I judge my clothes really hard since materials and stitching is really important to me next to design.
Which material did you get yours in? I have some Dryskin GG trousers, but I am looking for some warmer technical pants.
Dnt know but liked the hnm one
I've got a few homme plisse pants and tops. I never baby them. I wear them a lot too as they are my go-to during summer (super breathable) and I definitely don't wash after every wear. More durable than they get credit for.
100% do the same. Love the comfort as well. I think if someone’s not a fashion enthusiast their money can go further elsewhere
@@FlyWithJohnnyThai totally agree.
Buy 3 pair of pants for 150 each. Will last for a year or more. Go minimalist, will save time, money and headaches.
Hey man the filter you used to compare each pair of pants, especially when all the pants are black. It is really hard to see the details and tells them apart, creating wrong perceptions of the garments. imo.
i feel like the quality of the 500 dollar one is definitely better but not 5x the price of the olive pants. with issey miyake and other designer brands you are paying for the name…
for people needed a quick answer
of course spending 500$ on a product you will probably not wear more than a year or to is not worth it.
wake up people
got mine off aliexpress they dont have any branding so its chill quality isnt so nice but Ayyy they loook sick
I feel you on that price drop on the Issey Miyake and how high maintenance those pants are.
Is there really no cheaper alternative to the Issey Miyake pants? I do quite like them, but they are far out of my budget.
T-shirt brand?
does anyone know if I can find the olive clothing trousers in this video anywhere? they dont seem to available on the olive clothing site anymore
Was just thinking about picking up a pair bc of SSENSE sale 😂
You have such a nice view with a beautiful sunset from your place; lucky you. :)
bro u might be the only person I know who uses a metro card when using the subway lmao
drawstrings on these kind of pants are for people who are in between sizes like me who want a "no belt look".
Bro I have bowlegs whatever pant I wear it looks bad so any tips for me
ID on the jacket you wear at the pool table, at the end?
Cheers
I have the Issey Miyake pants and have sat a lot. Nothing happened. I love them so much. 👌
Only got one pants. Uniqlo ultra light and got many colors
This is the motivation I needed for 2023. I had stitched 105 jackets in between 4 years of procrastinating on starting a youtube channel.on men's African-inspired fashion This year I am determined,. Thanks, Tim I have watched you for years.
Definitely the Homme Plisse, it’s the most versatile and most unique, two good reasons it is the best out of all three. Sure everything beautiful needs care, whether it’s a garden or any equipment, I personally don’t make a decision to owe something just because it needs care particularly if it is a good product.
The olive trousers are a great compromise between both and for a reasonable price! The ones from ssense are a bit much and very impractical in terms of wearability and if ever something happens you lost 500$
What were the Olive trousers you wore in the video?
What size uniqlo trousers are you wearing?
I dont have to watch the video to know that the answer is NO. You probably can get something similar for five times less. Even if you make 200k a year, its just a waste of money. Better invest them or something lol
cringe, it's ok to spend on yourself within your mean
hey man where is the necklace from at 0:20 ?
My favorite is the olive clothing from what you showed
ID on the camp collar shirt?
Great video, background was gorgeous
H&M
No
Hey man, I watched your video on all black clothing, and I need to know, where did you get that mandarin colar ahirt from the thumb?
Fdmtl 👍
My favorites... tier 2, so far.
Hey, can you share the link of the olive clothing trousers? I can't find the exact same ones. Thanks!
Yeah haven't been able to find it myself either
They unfortunately sold out of them. They’ve done several restocks though!
I vote for P23a-ds.
Olive doesn't carry those wide fitting tapered trousers anymore huh? the pleat is hella nice :(
Lightweight wrap pants
Those Essey Miyake trousers look sick
great video! makes for a nice template
great vid, make it a series pls
What do you want to see me compare next?
@@FlyWithJohnnyThaiitems that would be trending in 2023 would be nice like leather or fleece jackets.
Man you have the best fits!
dope video love the vlog style of content from u
Quick answer: NO
where is the shirt from at 08:48? love the video Johnny, keep up the good work! was looking for some new pants so this video was very helpful!
Uniqlo airism
Uniqlo all the way
9:00 what coat is that?
where is that grey camp collar shirt from?
Also olive clothing 👍
How tall re u?
W video
First
Moral of the story, don’t buy pleated pants, they look bad
Ion kno man sound more like a skill issue to me
@@namirai. skill to make them? To me that’s irrelevant if the pleats look dumb
dude this 3x6 format looks great, like film.
Also great Flaired pants for likr 30 or so The Wrangler Dress jean