He will not simply because this disgusting judge believes him, he actually believes everything the state bring forward. I feel sorry for Senzo Meyiwa's familyz the accused and their families
I learnt something from this , someone is not guilty until proven by the court of law . From how the proceeding are going something is fishie with the state . This cooking is too much
Ratha even said this case is going nowhere like the government of this country 😅😂😂🤣 he knows what he’s happening in this case but acting stupid 😅😅 crooks tendencies
So meaning team Gininda's main aim was to plant accused no.5 in such a manner that he was the co ordinator of the hit of killing Senzo meyiwa or should I say the organiser i wonder how many poor souls out there in prison serving sentences they never commit South Africa is a disgrace indeed in terms of justice simply bcz of the love of money from the corrupted police officers I'm ashamed to be a South African indeed🚮🚮🚮🚮
This is why a death sentence is not an answer in solving this high rate of crime in South Africa, because of corrupt govt officials, judges, NPA being captured, judicial being captured, SAPS being corrupt, tubing and torturing detainee to admit to crime they did not commit, cooking and manufacturing as we see it on the ongoing cases.
Yazi u have a very serious point. People will be killed by the law yet bemsulwa . The law will be manipulated by people to kill people 😢😢. Remember the catomanor squad it was working until people started to use it to murder people 😢😢
So pinky agreed that the information was changed . Its nolonger the same . Now how is Rathatha still collecting our taxes . This case should be struck off the roll . Simple.
Zungu Zungu Zungu,makabuye.. I remember him telling Mshololo that Ntuli is lying about the photos when it was said that they were taken at George goch hostel,he said the hostel that was depicted in the background was Basuthwini,he even pointed someone in the photos saying its him😂😂😂😂 And the accused told the court the name of that person. As clever as he is,Ratha believed him but most of the lay people like me never bought his storry,How Ratha?
I find this interpreter to be the best interpreter in this case or any other case that I have listened to, he pays a lot of attention even to minor details. He objectively "demands" his space and fairly so just through his actions; impressive...👏
Pinky😂😂😂. So soft spoken. Ngwanyana wa ko Lenasia. Why is it a secret as to who is being called on Monday? This case is full of twists and turns. Disgustingly so! The state is playing a nasty nasty game. It's all fun and games to Sibanda.
Suddenly pinky s laptop cannot be opened?? Neee maan , GUYS, dis cookings are bad, ever since pinky started to testify, d laptop never gave her problems with signal, only whn MSHOSHOLOZA started with her questions 🎉🎉🎉
When the witness is telling the truth uBaloyi uthula njengenkukhu enethiweyo. Mhlana kukhulunywa amanga uyabe ehlakaniphe njengenja yomlungu ebona umniniyo.
LOL... 😂 Yesterday she didn't even want to touch another laptop or use someone's stick but today she was using Sibanda's laptop. They didn't want to give their laptops when Mnizi was asking 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Okay let’s say Kelly is guilty, they need to issue an arrest for her, then open a new docket after it’s her bail after tht we still have to thru another trial whereby there will be this back and fourth all over again ? Bathong
This case got me into following legal proceedings, I can't wait for the conclusion . I pray that justice prevails in the end of this trial. I'm greatful for the law class though 🙏🏻💯🫱🏻
I wonder if the government, and, therefore, the courts know that there are SIM cards which are bought already RICAed. That is, that there are people who own SIM cards which are RICAed not in their names, not names of people that are known to them. You just go to the shop and buy a card that is already RICAed
"Now lets move on into the towers now" haayii South Africa everything ukudiza njeeee Lawyer lomdizo eli elibizwa ngo Zandile Mshololo. How did she study law with Grade 5 English ?????
@@NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps A lawyer ???? kkkkiii, and you think those 5 accused will be released think again. She needs to go back to matric. Very weak and uneducated that is why she's always short tempered and screaming for no reason. Mthondo kayihlo wena owudla ngomlomo nondindwa don't ever insult people you don't even know msunu kagogowakho
Fabrication is the case of the defense hence the line of questioning. I am waiting for the case of the defense once they have to furnish their own evidence.
Wen i get money i will take all cases of George Baloi and Gininda for review's 🤞🤞🤞Too much corruption on these two people 😢😢
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There should be audit into their Bank accounts too
Gininda should be demoted, he used wrong influences to be promoted
I still don't understand why the judge keeps allowing this......the doesn't have a case...can we have docket 375
😮he says they never buy him it does't make sure
Free Advocate Teffo
True coz ngeke babaqede bonke labammeli
BLACK EXCELLENCE✔️ we are proud of you defense🫶🏿🔥state,its witnesses together with le 78 a ba tlhatlhelwe
#RELEASEtefo
Zungu must be arrested for lying under oath
I want that one to come and testify again, I want to hear something
@@DimphoK he's probably gonna lie agai...he can't be trusted
He will not simply because this disgusting judge believes him, he actually believes everything the state bring forward. I feel sorry for Senzo Meyiwa's familyz the accused and their families
Uzungu kwakngamele abekhona emhlabeni uyasihlangahlanganisa
😂😂😅@@sheilazulu8589
I learnt something from this , someone is not guilty until proven by the court of law . From how the proceeding are going something is fishie with the state . This cooking is too much
Indeed so
Correct me if I'm wrong....but it seems as if the defence is leading.
Thanks again adv.Mshololo😂
Mnisi and Mshololo did a great work , 😂 pinky belows to defense now ,
Don't be shy to say leading again, gape le gape ngwana gaumama😅😅 besides when judge is oppressive towards the defence 😂
Judge looks unhappy with the progress😂😂
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Understandably so. He's got no shield to protect the state 😅😅😅
Ratha even said this case is going nowhere like the government of this country 😅😂😂🤣 he knows what he’s happening in this case but acting stupid 😅😅 crooks tendencies
😂😂😂😂
So meaning team Gininda's main aim was to plant accused no.5 in such a manner that he was the co ordinator of the hit of killing Senzo meyiwa or should I say the organiser i wonder how many poor souls out there in prison serving sentences they never commit South Africa is a disgrace indeed in terms of justice simply bcz of the love of money from the corrupted police officers I'm ashamed to be a South African indeed🚮🚮🚮🚮
Gininda bsloyi sibanda rata chicco khoza realy they need death penalty
Teffo must be freely given his powers back
These accused lads are in for a huge amount of compensation
Expt n5
Now that AVL and phone records prove otherwise. State just needs to pack the bags and declare that they failed South Africa big time.
This is why a death sentence is not an answer in solving this high rate of crime in South Africa, because of corrupt govt officials, judges, NPA being captured, judicial being captured, SAPS being corrupt, tubing and torturing detainee to admit to crime they did not commit, cooking and manufacturing as we see it on the ongoing cases.
Yazi u have a very serious point. People will be killed by the law yet bemsulwa . The law will be manipulated by people to kill people 😢😢. Remember the catomanor squad it was working until people started to use it to murder people 😢😢
Imagine if there was a death sentence, imagine how many innocent people should hv died in dis unreliable jury
True, innocent people would be sent to death because of these cookings 😢
Money determined justice and justice always favours money 🤑 without money there's no justice and it will never be 😢 poor ppl are feeling this weight 😭
Where is kelly and longwe to testify...... we're not stupid plz..
Then someone please clarify what what Sibanda was doing for almost a month 😮😮😮😮
iyadina nje lento
He was playing and recooking the pot
Confusing the Advocates...🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Two months he wanted to confuse the records he thought bringing 4600 pages ppl will nt see the created calls which didn't exist 😂
He was wasting time on purpose delaying the case
So pinky agreed that the information was changed . Its nolonger the same . Now how is Rathatha still collecting our taxes . This case should be struck off the roll . Simple.
Zungu Zungu Zungu,makabuye..
I remember him telling Mshololo that Ntuli is lying about the photos when it was said that they were taken at George goch hostel,he said the hostel that was depicted in the background was Basuthwini,he even pointed someone in the photos saying its him😂😂😂😂
And the accused told the court the name of that person.
As clever as he is,Ratha believed him but most of the lay people like me never bought his storry,How Ratha?
😂😂😂😂usakhumbula featuring himself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@nonikomaluleks317😂😂😂
Zungulicious 😂
IGAZI LIKASENZO LIZOKHULUMA INYEMBEZI ZOMNDENI WAKA MEYIWA NGEKE ZIWELE PHANZI
Kuyasho vele selivukile, liyalwa, ngazisa kulesosandla esalichitha.,kunzima nakuso
52:46 Adv Mngomezulu said it they are cooking le data, ijoh
Zibondiwe abanyenyi ogininda and all abo domkop that believes these 5 accused guilty
ZIPHI LEZOZI STUPID!!!!!!? 😢
Case is messed up start with Kelly uncle fist at spaza. Nabours see senzo laying bleeding to death no kelly frnds around all got stories
And the woman who was said to have cleaned the crime scene
Seems as if Gouws and Steyn could have changed the pdf ???
Just wondering what is Brigadier Gininda aka Ginyinja is saying now😂😂😂
I find this interpreter to be the best interpreter in this case or any other case that I have listened to, he pays a lot of attention even to minor details. He objectively "demands" his space and fairly so just through his actions; impressive...👏
Pinky😂😂😂. So soft spoken. Ngwanyana wa ko Lenasia.
Why is it a secret as to who is being called on Monday? This case is full of twists and turns. Disgustingly so! The state is playing a nasty nasty game. It's all fun and games to Sibanda.
It's like we are watching a TV series
Thsy hv no witness they hv to go look for someone to come and lie
Shosholza 🎉MSHOH ❤
Matthews...😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Ppl won't trust vodacom after this witness
Why?
Which Case r u watching
Fire fire sibanda was just bombarding the record with nonsense so you can't pick up the fabrication
Exactly
Justice for Senzo noma nifuna simashe sigcwale umgwaqo
I like the way Mr judge is quite today 😂😂😂
I noticed 😂
I wonder where did Gouws got that Rica info if Vodacom doesn't have.
That's what I'm asking myself
Exactly my sentiment
It is simple ma Mvelase they edited the pdf.They changed the numbers so to implicate the accused.
@@motlalepulematlou2755gninda his brigadier rata say highly qualify
Our best defence is winning this manipulated case😅😅
Your best defence has already lost the case. They are just there for money z
@@RoyaltiesSouthAfrica-dm8mz Your Gininda and Baloyi jail is waiting watch the space 😊
@@RoyaltiesSouthAfrica-dm8mzBecause of the corrupt Baloyi and Gininda and the head NPA
Which case are you talking about uyagula wena @@RoyaltiesSouthAfrica-dm8mz
@@RoyaltiesSouthAfrica-dm8mzu are talking nonsense
Suddenly pinky s laptop cannot be opened?? Neee maan , GUYS, dis cookings are bad, ever since pinky started to testify, d laptop never gave her problems with signal, only whn MSHOSHOLOZA started with her questions 🎉🎉🎉
When the witness is telling the truth uBaloyi uthula njengenkukhu enethiweyo. Mhlana kukhulunywa amanga uyabe ehlakaniphe njengenja yomlungu ebona umniniyo.
Khona Kukhona Okufanele Aboshwe Agwetshwe Futhi Ngoba Kwabulawa Umuntu E South africa akekho Onemvumo Yokubulala Akhiphe Umphefumulo
Sibanda is a big shame indeed. He now wants defense to cut shot cross examination for the sake of progress hahaha 😅
Chicco gun with his son longwe. Mafia boss
Ziyakhala manje 💪🏾💪🏾
UMUNTU ONCOLILE UKWENDLULA BONKE LAPHA ILELI JAJI LIBOLILE😢😢
I hate him with all my heart 😢
i Jaji ngu Satan the Devil with horns today he looks like inja emyama efileyo
This judge 😢
LOL... 😂 Yesterday she didn't even want to touch another laptop or use someone's stick but today she was using Sibanda's laptop. They didn't want to give their laptops when Mnizi was asking 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Showmax😂
@@zamakhuzwayo1924 😂🤣...
Justice for Senzo
This woman is brilliant
Things are bad😮
Mshooooooooo long live my lord
Wee kubi la mos ...sekubhedile ..why is this still continuing
Walker Timothy Anderson Charles Robinson William
URATHA WAVELE WAKHATHALA WAYUDAKA😂😂😂😂😂
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Kuyasha ngempela manje ,ijubane losiza lana😂😂😂 lengane nevoice yayo ishisa inkantolo
Mshololo is the beast and I don't know why sibanda ratha's ex stood up and said nothing won't change when mshololo was still busy cross examining nxa
Adv Teffo career was destroyed for the truth.
Now I understand why Ratha is so bias against the defense bcoz he was an Orlando pirates player! Conflict of interest
Chiefs not pirates
Okay let’s say Kelly is guilty, they need to issue an arrest for her, then open a new docket after it’s her bail after tht we still have to thru another trial whereby there will be this back and fourth all over again ? Bathong
The evidence thus far, suggests that the accused are guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
This case got me into following legal proceedings, I can't wait for the conclusion .
I pray that justice prevails in the end of this trial. I'm greatful for the law class though 🙏🏻💯🫱🏻
*grateful.
Me too, I have learnt a lot from this case
bonnete.
#freeTeffo😮
Fabricated yhoooo eMzansi ingakho kunje kunabantu abazotrainwer konakele 😒😒😒😒
Angifisi ukuboshwa nkosiyami ngoba kungathiwa imina ngibe ngilele
Akafunwe lowo thNdzile azofakaza ukuthi uhlanganaphi no ac no_3
Uyayazi imbudane yecala ileli ai alikho icala eliqulwa imnyaka engaka alikho nje
re tla bona monday,be present mr jonas
Mshololo the empty tin is killing the drums now😂😂
This Judge is not in the law but biase in the law
We need glady khumalo 😊
Gous .Zwane .Gininda leyomali enayidla isondo liyojika ngelinyilanga iznyembezi zabantu azhlali phansi 😢
The focul point was to try and influence her to use Steyn's excel statement when it came to the phone calls.
Uyamamatheka uMamMshololo 😂😂😂😂😂 upinky uyavuma ukuthi kukhona kungafani kwamniningwane 😂😂😂 uRatha uyangenelela 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"when we compile the statement" Pinky said
Shuth akazibhalelanga lesi statement sihlalelwe phansi sahlelwa
Indeed well spoken English fools can fool you big time, who remembers Mr 'Alibi'😩
Remind me please
Mr subsequently 😂😂😂😂
Ratha knows the difference between Rica and ownership. Mshololo is wasting her time.
I sense that too. But after what Mnisi presented it can’t be denied that the information is false
I wonder if the government, and, therefore, the courts know that there are SIM cards which are bought already RICAed.
That is, that there are people who own SIM cards which are RICAed not in their names, not names of people that are known to them.
You just go to the shop and buy a card that is already RICAed
They know, but they just have to prove that those SIM cards belongs to them(accused)
This case
Judge hmmmm is not make sure
Where did state gets these cell phone records?
Zizokhala inyongo yaka senzo zilwele
Pinky talks like shes the Director of Vodacom 😮😮
Director 😂😂😂
Yes 😂😂😂 lol
Nmb 5 dont wrry in for life maybe he and mshololo wanted 2 score a deal and mngomezulu stop it
Angayisebenzisa inumber ka thazilelowo
21.12.02 Ratha😢😢😮😮😮😮😮
Suspect 5 looks 😟 worried.
But gininda and baloyi and Nzungu
Laptop jammed😂
SENZO FIGHTING 😅😅😅
Did Mnisi lay a charge/complaint agst. Pinky??😢
Not Pinky 😅😅
Mnisi was not going to lay charges against Pinky
This witness sounds soooo sexy 😍 46:15
Sibanda will have a field day during rebuttal I can see😂😂
Rebuttal yokunuka .bring evidence. Fraud is fraud they cooked .
I am using a number registered in my sons name …
That make sense because you're his parent, the accused does know these people
So?
Nikhokhelwe nini abantu abulala usenzo awukho umthetho emzansi
Washo uhlophe ephalamende
Vodacom😭 mannnnnn'
Zidlana imilala😂
Government wifi 😅 anyone with a pocket router
Pinky wanika ubaloyi nosibanda PDF
Does suspect 5 have a cellphone? Seems as if he is using others cellphone?😮
073 wat wat listen if u have some ears😂😂😂
Wena I think you're watching a different case hey... LOL 😂😂😂😂😂
Are you OK?
😂😂😂😂Suprise witness😂umshololo Uyahlek ayy lelicala Alikho sdalo fair 😅
Waze wajabha ujaji
This is South Africa, you can buy 1000 sim cards which are already Rica on names you don't know, but you're using that numbers.
True that's does happen indeed
Then one can prove how those particular numbers belongs to?
R u talking from experience?
However the court can't find you guilty based on a number not riccard under your name
@@mawandemafanya9924All starter packs from makuleng or sold outside malls are already ricared thats what he meant
"Now lets move on into the towers now" haayii South Africa everything ukudiza njeeee Lawyer lomdizo eli elibizwa ngo Zandile Mshololo. How did she study law with Grade 5 English ?????
Tsek mgodoyi she is zulu thats her strong language.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??? UNGAZONYA WENA SSHLAMA SIKAMAWAKHO
Ask your government how does it happen
@@luckyzwane1996 esidliwa nguyihlo. Malebe ka nyoko owamuncayo wena mphuuu ngiyakukhalela nja
@@NgwendeNgwende-cm2ps A lawyer ???? kkkkiii, and you think those 5 accused will be released think again. She needs to go back to matric. Very weak and uneducated that is why she's always short tempered and screaming for no reason. Mthondo kayihlo wena owudla ngomlomo nondindwa don't ever insult people you don't even know msunu kagogowakho
You know state supporters make noise forgetting defence will have its time to challenge them😂😂😂😂
yes
Manufacturing 😂😂😂😂
Fabrication is the case of the defense hence the line of questioning. I am waiting for the case of the defense once they have to furnish their own evidence.
You talk rubbish...Who has the onus to prove the case???🤔🤔🤔
Best to wait than writing flop.
The accused will be acquitted sooner
Nice to know who Mtshali/Thandezile etc are?
Suspect 5 could have used these cellphones although it was not riqued in his name??😮