Self Propelled Dragging or Hard to Push on Your Lawn Mower? It Could be This!
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Video Tutorial on what could be going on with your self propelled when it's dragging or hard to push across the yard. Very easy and quick fix, and best of all it's FREE!
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Great video. I'm gonna do that tomorrow. I need to clean a bunch of trash from the teeth in my wheels too. One of my dust covers was torn by a piece of metal and trash got inside so I ordered some new covers. I'm sure that's contributing to my mower being hard to push.
Thanks for the great feedback! Wish you good luck with your project.. 😊
I appreciate the time you took to make this video and the thorough visual explanation of the hard to push problem. One thing however. I think I would avoid putting any kind of grease or oil on these parts when reassembling. PB Blaster makes a spray graphite lubricant that, in my opinion, would be a much better lubricant in this case because it is dry and will not allow sand and grit to accumulate. Sand and grit on these parts will wear them out fairly quickly. The spay graphite lubricant works well and lasts a reasonable amount of time. It should be re-applied at the start of each mowing season, giving one an opportunity to clean these areas up again. Regular maintenance. Thanks again for the informative video.
Yes, thanks for the tip! I do agree with you. I wouldn't put the grease in if I could do it again..
Thanks for sharing your video, very much appreciated!
I tried it and grease and removing and cleaning every couple of years works great 😊
The dumbest thing Troy-Bilt did was not make access hold like Craftsman did. You have to take the whole front end off to change the belt
IKR... I don't like that either....
So you need to buy replace the wheels ? It appears you had some and just put new on
If the teeth on the inside of the wheels are worn down, then yes you should replace the wheels.
I have a yard max and it won’t self propel but the back wheels will spin when I raised up the back…what could be the problem? The tension pulley?
HI... sounds like the belt could be slipping. However there could be problems within the wheels themselves. I would check the belt tension first (Engine off and self propelled engaged) and see what you've got. If the belt doesn't have excess tension I'd check the wheels and see if there's anything going on in there.
@@JLPicard440 thank you …will do. I took the wheels off the other day and they looked perfect. I will look at the belt today
@@benprofessab1496 I hope you find the problem!
This video was exactly what i needed to fix my Troy Built, followed the steps exactly and it fixed my issue of my wheels not turning easily. Thanks a ton!
You're welcome!😀. Glad I could help...
So the fron wheels are supposed to turn freely
Yes fairly freely. More so in one direction than the other.
Wow nice, definitely appreciate the info
You’re welcome 😊
My troy built tb230 i can get my spline gears off everything turns😕🏄😊
Do you mean you can't get the wheels off?
I appreciate your time and effort to complete this video. I love it
I appreciate that!
Quick question: After performing your work steps, the wheel now spins freely when I put the lug nut at mid tightening. As soon as I fully tighten it, it's locked in place. Any recommendations?
HI. The axle shaft is supposed to stick out ever so slightly past where the nut goes on the wheel to keep that from happening. Did you change the wheel? If the wheel is to thick then it'll tighten up on the wheel instead of the axle.
@JLPicard440 Yes, I did change the wheel. I put a washer on to give it some room, but the same thing happened. Any ideas? Thank you!
Ok. Where did you put the washer? If you put it towards the inside of the axle and wheel that'll actually make the problem worse. It'll space the wheel out that much further. That axle where the wheel slides on is exactly the right length to stick out past the wheel on the inside where the nut goes. If the axle is still inside of the wheel when it comes out the other side (Where the threads for the nut are) it'll never work.
@JLPicard440 I tried both lol. A washer just on the inside, then a washer just on the outside, and finally, both a washer on the inside and outside 🤣 = nothing worked.
@@RazDaz74 Arrgh. From the factory there's no washer. Could it be that the wheel is slightly to thick?
Thank you so much! Fixed my issue pushing my self propelled (with no engagement lever lol).
Awesome! Glad to help.. 😀
Anti-seize would be great as well.
For sure... 😀
I have a Toro self propelled mower that worked fine yesterday. Today the wheels locked up and won't move. I hope this fixes it. If not, can the self propel feature be disconnected? I can't afford a new mower.
HI.... I'd be curios what you found. The problem in the video is usually something that goes bad over time. Usually from being left outside. Normally that won't happen from one day to the next. Yes it can be disabled as long as you remove the drive gear from both wheels and the axles have a light coat of fresh grease so they turn freely. Otherwise you'll be getting quite a workout!
@@JLPicard440 Thanks. I haven't tried to fix it yet. It has been raining the last couple of days. I hope to try to fix it tomorrow. I have the worst luck with keeping yard equipment running.
I hope you get it going! We're going to be in for a lot of rain from Helene.... Don't know who ordered that, but I want to send it back where it came from... 😂
What kind of grease and where do you buy it? Pandemic got me trying to fix it myself rather than taking the mower in to get fixed.
Maybe marine grease... only a slight dab is all you need. Amazon has all that kind of stuff.
I meant i cant get them off
The wheels?
I got them off this morning installed the new ones now i can get back to awesome 🙂🏄🏽♂️
Excellent! Yea I've seen those get stuck before, you just have to apply a little patience and elbow grease and they'll come off!... 😀@@dextr5997
Excellent video! This should fix mine! Thanks and God bless you!
You're welcome! God bless u 2.. 😀
When I pulled off the right wheel, the right wheel sleeve was stuck to the shaft. I used my propane torch to heat up the sleeve and remove it. (I will replace both wheels.) In addition, I stripped the head on the torx screw that held the gear. After whacking at it with a hammer and punch, I finally utilized my wire welder to weld a T30 bit on to the head of the screw. It then spun right off with a ratchet! (I will replace it with a 1/4x 20 Phillips head screw.) Thanks for your kind reply!
Awesome! Yes I've done things like that too... 😂. Sometimes you have to improvise when things don't work like they're supposed to..
I’m having the same problem however when I’m trying to take the gear off I’m holding the other side but the actual screw is turning on the gear (the gear is not turning as I hold it) has this happened to you
Hmmm. I don't have a picture in my mind yet. Are you talking about the smaller metal gear that meshes with the wheel? That gear has a small pin behind it that moves back and fourth to create a one way clutch. It should be locked in one direction and turn free in the other. This way you can push the mower when the self propelled isn't engaged.
Thank you for the response and for the awesome and informational video, yes I was talking about the small drive gear, I was able to get them off after I kept messing with it a little more
@@alanbaxter2753 Excellent! 🙂
Amazing video and tip! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative, thank you so much all your tips are going to be used.
Glad it was helpful!😊😊
Thank you very much. You saved me a lot of money.
You are welcome! Glad I could help.. 😊😊
I picked up 2 toros this year for free with simular problems, one had been outside soo long the deck looked like swiss cheese. I got the engine to work and swap it on to another Toro Deck I had. Making 1 Toro out of 2 Toros.
Oh nice... I guess the engine on the Toro with the good deck wasn't worth fixing?
Great Trick!
Also be sure to tell people to Silicone Spray their pull rope. Simply pull it out all the way and use a piece of plastic to spray and wipe it into the rope length.
It's a MUST DO and it might never break if they do!
Take care
Great tip! Thanks... 😀
I'll be tearing into my mower first thing tomorrow morning. Thank you......!
Excellent! Hope you got it going.. 😊. You're welcome.
Didn't know Freddie Mercury fixed lawnmowers ! Great video !
Lol... Thank you.. 😊
I have a 2007 Toro Super Recycler still running but it feels like I am pushing it I have Personal Pace. Good video but to much work for a 74 year old man to do.
It could need a belt... if you engage the self propelled while holding it back, see if the wheels will spin and grind up dirt.... if they won't spin then something is slipping.
@@JLPicard440 Thanks for replying I will give it a try
You're welcome...
I'll try this tomorrow. Hope it works for me. And thanks for the video!
Excellent! Let me know if you have a question... Thanks.. 😀
Thanks for the video Just what I was looking for
Awesome! So glad to help.. You're welcome.
Good tip. Thank you.
You bet!.. You're welcome... :-)
What size is the star bit socket used to remove the gear? I need to buy one, but have no idea what size I need. Thanks for posting the video. Very helpful.
I can't remember if I didn't mention it in the video. From the looks of it probably a T25, 27 or 30. I think it's one of those 3.
@@JLPicard440 thanks
Very Good!... 43🐄🦉🏴☠✝
Thank u.. 😊
Good job on this video! What size of bit did you use to remove the spur gear? My mower has a lot of rust and I’m having challenges with that hex screw. Keep up the great work!
I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure it was a Torx bit. They come in different sizes usually labeled T-10, T-15, etc..
My lawn mower suddenly started getting extremely hard to push out of nowhere. Idk if the brakes are stuck or something. But please help me
I don't think there are any brakes on it. You'd have to lift up the mower and see which wheels are dragging real bad. Once you see which ones it is, you'll have to take those wheels off and see what's going on.
Maybe you can help with my mower. Have new drive cable, new drive pulley on drive shaft, new belt. I've adjusted the tension but end up with the mower self-propelled system wanting to go real fast and then suddenly slows down significantly. I was thinking the belt was running "high" or outside the pulleys and then falling back into the groove. What can I do?
Does your mower have a cover that you can remove on the top side so you can see the belt in action? Obviously you'd have to be careful while you're doing this, but it would help if you could see what's going on. I've never seen one actually do that before.
@@JLPicard440 Hi. No cover. The deck is all one piece. And yea, it's the weirdest thing. That's why I was asking to see if you knew anthing more. One thing you could tell me is what is the length or your cable that engages drive? If mine were the incorrect length, maybe that could play into the problem.
@@ninemilliondollars I don't know off hand. If you have your model number you can go to a site like www.partstree.com and plug it in and get the parts breakdown. From there, you can get the part number of the cable..
Is it the same process in an awd mower?
Probably so.. you'd have to pull the wheel off and see
What size torx is the bolt that holds gear secure?
I don't remember.
My rear wheels spin when I lift them off the ground but when I set them down the mower will not move forward. When I push the mower it sometimes give resistance. Any thoughts??
I would check the belt to see if it's excessively loose. I forgot if there was an adjustment in the handle where you pull to activate the self propelled. If this model has an adjustment, I'd try to adjust it tighter. If it's none of that, you might have to take the wheels apart and see if there's any problems in there...
@@JLPicard440 I adjusted the cable and that worked. Thanks for your reply
@@joec2704 Excellent!
I tried taking the metal gear off my front wheel drive Toro and I cannot get that gear off even after removing this the eclipse that gear is stuck on their how do I get that gear off
It should come right off... did you wiggle it real good? If the lubrication has broken down, it might be causing the gear to stick.
Is oil poured into this gearbox?
I think it might use some grease from the factory.. I don't think it has oil like a car does.
can you just remove the gear so you can just run it as a pusher ?
Yes for sure... I don't remember which part to remove without seeing it again, but as long as the wheels go back and fourth easily I don't see any problem except it'll be on the heavy side for a pusher...
Remove the little drive gears is all
Great video Ruddy.
TYSM! I really appreciate it... 😊
2:36 what tool should i use if i dont have a electric power tool ?
That's a Torx I believe. A Torx driver with a ratchet would be the best way.. I don't remember which size,.. Torx has different sizes like t-15, t-20, t-25, etc.. It almost looks like a security Torx bit From the video, it looks like there's a pin in the center. Harbor Freight has a security torx bit set if that's what it is.
@@JLPicard440 thank you so much sir was able to fix it . 🙏
Excellent!
Good stuff. Thanks!
Awesome! You're welcome.. 😀
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
Belt diagram
If u take your model number and go to a website like www.partstree.com you can usually look up the parts breakdown and it'll show the belt diagram..
Thanks 🙏 😊
Most welcome 😊
Very helpful
Awesome! Thank you.. 😀
Good video
TYSM for the great feedback!
Just what I was looging for, thank you very much.
You are welcome!
Very good job ! Thank you !
Thank you too!