great video-- I followed some other video and got the part from Amazon, but the belt was too tight to go on both pulleys - this video clearly explained how you can do it... thanks
Thanks for the video. Yours is more helpful that the one by Toro! This is the exact configuration for my mower. I guess I am lucky that my belt had lasted 10 years. I'll throw in a couple tips. First, if you are having problems removing the side srcews for the baffle, move the rear wheel beyond the highest setting and the wheel will be out of the way. Then it's not much trouble to remove screws from both sides and get the whole baffle out of the way. My owners manual recomends tightening the blade bolt to 60 ft-lbs. This is where a 6-12 inch piece of 2x4 is very useful for holding the blade from turning while tightening/torquing as shown in the owners manual.
Thanks for the great video. Very informative and loved the trick of loosening the rear guard to turn the transmission for access to the cover versus the hassle of removing/disassembling the wheels. Big time saver.
5:53 why they used square screws are beyond me. They will be stripped by 2-3rd belt change. I've only changed my belt once on my 2010 toro recyler 20332
Great video especially the video quality and narration for the belt replacement including repositioning the guard. I have some tips here 1) unplug the spark plug wire whenever working the blade 2) use a vice grip to clamp the fuel line when tipping 3) adjusting the rear wheels temporarily will provide socket access to the screws behind the rear wheels for the guard 4) although not the video purpose, sharpen the blade on a grinder while it is off. Lastly, nice of you to be a good neighbor.
I have a 28 year old Lawnboy Gold series made by Toro where the entire belt is on the top of the deck . The belt and the 3 speed transmission have never failed in all that time and I cut a 1/4 acre once a week. Why can't they make them like that anymore? Planed obsolescence ? Except for cleaning and greasing the small drive gears so they will slip when going backwards and replacing the wheels when they wore out and split the drive train has been trouble free. What recently failed the blower housing from metal fatigue where it bolted to the engine from so many pull starts and I replaced the pull cord itself once.
Thanks for saving me a ton of time today! My belt was in good shape but somehow came off the wheel by the gear box. I honestly don't know how it worked itself off. I'm thinking a stick wedged in there just right. Long story short I disassembled just like you did and put the belt back on and reassembled. It works good again and the belt tension seems good to me! Just in case I noted the belt part number. Thanks again!!
just replaced the belt on my Toro Personal Pace lawn mower with the help of this video, lawn mower is back up and running again..thank you for the very helpful video!!
Hey, everybody, here's a hint. Rake and pick up sticks that fall out of trees. They seem to cut or mulch easily, but a chunk the size of a short pencil can ruin a belt if it gets stuck in the pulley.
Thanks! My Toro lost power drive with about 15 feet left on my lawn. I thought it had jumped off or jammed on the "clutch" end of the mechanism, but couldnt figure out how to get to it to fix it. You gave me the information and its running great now. Thanks again.
This video saved me today. The belt broke half way through my cut and I didn't know what was going on. It was smoking and not propelling. Fortunately, my local hardware store had the right belt and I got it fixed in time to finish the cut. Thanks so much!
Ok, here is some critical information, for those of us, with an electric/pull start system, and the black battery box on the deck of the mower. Ok, YES, there is a bolt underneath the box. But, it is towards the back of the mower, and you will see a slightly raised section of the box, that does not touch the deck, but sit's above it, about 1/4-3/8". The bolt you have to access is, literally in that notch, towards the backside of the black box/mower. And, I have found, that the box is riveted to the deck. So, for full access, you will have to rip the box off of the top of the deck, revealing 2 of the 3 bolts, as the 2nd bolt is, along the left side of the black battery box, just underneath the side front corner. But, if you are able to remove all of the plastic covers off of the back, including the flapper, for the bag. As, the top of the flapper for the bag hatch, is literally what has you blinded from seeing the bolt in the first place, besides the battery box itself. And, since I can't start it with the key anymore(Long story short, the cable harness was ripped out of the key starter switch, and ruined it), so it's pretty useless to me, at the moment. So, I decided to just rip the black box itself off. Which, made it much more simpler to access all 3 bolt's, for the plastic belt guard underneath. Also, it is a good idea to take a plastic bag(Walmart bags will do fine), and use it underneath the gas cap, by taking the cap off, then draping the bag(Double layer, by using whole bag) over the open hole, then screw the cap back on, and you now have a sealed gas cap, from leaking...
I've owned this same mower since 2015 and the blade shouldn't fit like that on it's holder. It shouldn't be twisted. That whole blade holder and pulley has been jacked around with. Very strange looking and possibly dangerous.
That was very helpful. Have new belt and new blade going on my 4 yr old Toro PP Lawnmower. Am sure I could have figured it out, but like the way you didn't have to take rear wheels off.. Probably not a bad idea anyway to grease those gears up. Now, if you can figure out how to keep from wearing out a $60 grass catcher, that would be nice. They last about 2 years for me.
I didn't reed to replace the belt. Good thing, my undercarriage had the belt hood on it which it looks like you'd already removed for this video. So my fix was simply to go and loosen the transmission cable locking nut, push the transmission cable toward the engine, as you showed early-on in this video, then lock that nut back down again. I replaced the blade in the same session. It's like a whole new mower now.
Word of advice, to not have to fight with that spacer, just use a bit of grease on the backside, that is closest to the blade, as it act's as a suction cup, to hold it in place. While, not making it a permanent fix to the bottom of the cylinder it sit's in...
Be sure to check your model # . This belt is for 2009 and up. Just drove myself crazy for 2hours wondering what's going on bc I needed a bigger 91-2258 belt is about 2" bigger
The repair description is great. There is a repaired model. Broken rear pivot arm nut hole. How can I fix it? No matter how much I search on the internet, I can't find the part. please. (model 20340 (7.25/163cc)
Great video, very very helpful. But I bet your ol' pappy would take you to woodshed for using a power driver behind a flat bit on a square drive bolt. Shame on you! :-) :-) :-) (but I won't tell on you)
My belt keeps coming off on the drive cable end of my 20332. I’ve tried two new different belts. The last one I tried was toro original. Any tips on how to fix this?
That's exactly what happens to mine quite frequently! I always thought Toro was a good brand but now I wonder! The repair shop charges me over $60 to pick it up and replace the belt it. Gonna look for something else. Any suggestions please?
I can only think a component could be bent that is causing contact to the belt? I adjusted the belt guard under the mower deck and it hasn't had any problems since. Did you do your last repair or did the repair shop perform it?
@@hdkevin4387 Hi Kevin, thanks for answering back! I don't know anything about lawnmowers so the Toro guy in my town picks it up, charges me for that and for repairing. It's only 3 years old and last summer he claimed the transmission went out and that was almost $400! I don't want to put any more money into it, so I'm kinda stuck.... Thanks for your help!
@@susan5301 you’re welcome! I have a lawnboy that has been excellent the last 10 years. It doesn’t have the personal pace, but it has been very reliable
@@hdkevin4387 if you have a small yard 1/4 or less i would suggest a Ego battery mower. Cost about $ 500 but i've had mine 5 years and zero problems. No gas to buy or store. I love it.
One problem is on an old mower you can't get the square head screws out to remove the flywheel guard off the transmission. I just adjusted the existing belt and as old as it is I have to practically run to keep up with it. Mine is a front wheel drive not rear. So this video was useless to me.
I’ve gotten better with my future videos. But you’re right I skimmed over a bunch on this one. I didn’t have my normal camera so the angles aren’t great either
What Robert Blake said. If you have a lot of junk( sticks, rocks, etc.) sooner or later something gets between belt & pulley. Takes less than 1/2 hour to put on new belt with this video.And that’s the first time !
Thanks to your video I was able to change the belt on my Toro 20332 Self Propelled mower. Now, the back wheels run by themselves and much too fast. I tried adjusting the wire on the side handle both ways and the mower still wants to run by itself. What am I missing? Is it possible I stretched the cable when I struggled to put the spring back on? What would cause the wheels to run by themselves?
Hello. You’re very welcome. It means the belt is too tight. Well the cable could be pinched if you had to struggle with it. Does it move freely back and forth? Also could the belt be the wrong size? If it’s too small it will bite on the pulley even if not engaged. Could the spring be misaligned perhaps?
Wondering if you got this figured out? I literally just did this today. I'm wondering if maybe the wire going to the gear box got kinked making it shorter and and in rest position the drive is already engaged. I know getting that spring reconnected was a pain in the butt for me!! I would watch the part again where he reconnects the spring to make sure the position is correct. I know I made a mental note of that when I was reassembling.
I have this walk behind troy built and need the covering for the belt t the tranny like the one here -do you have a used one and could I purchase it? Belt keeps coming off. Or might i need a new spring? Great video! Sound, clarity, instructionally! Troy-Built XP 12AI869F011 (2010) 1C2493668 30353
Thanks, very helpful when I thought I broke my Dad's mower. Didn't need to replace the drive belt, it was just jammed with a stick, but your video really helped access the problem area.
Just as I was finishing my front yard the mower self propel stopped and there was like a screaming when I would try to engage it, I'm thinking something's going on with the belt. Hate to tear it apart but looks like I got to. I'm hoping your video helps. thanks Kevin
I have a question on the belt cover. I was cleaning the bottom of my mower and I noticed there was alot of grass clumps underneath the cover and the pulley so I took the cover off and got all the grass out but now I can't get the cover back on. I'm having a hard time lining the holes up with the screws
Thanks for the video, I found it after I had already replaced my slipped and chewed up belt. I replaced belt with identical OEM belt and it lasted about a month and new belt slipped off again, what should I be adjusting to increase tension of the new new belt before I replace it again?
Simple...the pulleys are worn so even a new belt runs looser than it should. The pulley on the mower shaft takes most of the wear so replace it (about $25) and this should help eliminate the problem.
I can get the blade bolt off, but that plate underneath it is stuck on. I've beat the heck out of it underneath with a hammer and have trying prying it. Tried wd40 and PB Blaster.
@@hdkevin4387 Thanks. I was able to get the belt on and off without removing that blade mount. Only removed the blade. I have some other problems with the mower though. 1. The plate that the wheel screw goes into stripped so I bought another plate, but I can't get the old one off. It's the "yellowish" bare metal piece. 2. The spring under the push handle that pushes it back towards you broke. I bought a new one but can't figure out how to get the spring off/on that rod that it wraps around. Also one of the bolts holding that belt guard, and thus holding the engine, snapped off. I need to buy a bolt extractor.
Kevin, Have you ever compared that Personal Pace Toro from HD to the same model from a Toro dealer? I have one from the dealer and noticed several differences (minor) differences in this video. My mower is seven years old so that my be the reason. I just wonder if the HD model cuts any corners on quality.
This was exactly what I needed, thanks. The belt had gotten stuck between the pulley and housing on the back end. It was still in good shape, so it didn't need replacing. I was running over a lot of sticks when it happened, so I must have gotten a twig in there that spun it off or something.
@@hdkevin4387 Yeah, I would have never figured all those parts to move, or that stupid square drive, otherwise. It took me an hour and a half to find all the right tools, and get it all apart, but seven minutes to put it all back!
To remove the bolts holding the clippings chute just rotate the wheels to a different position as though you are changing cutting height for each bolt and you can take the bolts out with conventional socket and ratchet wrench. I removed the clippings chute completely, not sure about just bending it back out the way. I'm concerned it might crack or tear or somehow be distorted. Worked OK in this video to bend it back. But, you never know. Not that much harder to just remove it completely.
Thanks for the video! These lawnmower videos have really helped. Some of your up close shots are great. The belt isn’t my problem, but still helpful. My personal pace quit working, too. Looks like that black bracket on the gear box that the spring on the end of the cable is attached to isn’t attached anymore. Looks like the bracket is the only thing moving when I move the handle, not good. Going to have to find another video to see how the bracket attaches to the trans and why mine isn’t attached anymore. Thanks, again!
Thanks. I was wondering about greasing the rear drive system. Any pointers? I’m getting some grinding when I try to go up big hills. Both drive wheels have good gears, so I’m thinking it’s a dry ratcheting mechanism somewhere.
Glad I went for the FWD version of this machine,seen a lot of videos of the RWD with a ton of different problems and they usually require more work and more parts.
@@hdkevin4387 Yes I am satisfied with the machine and it does propel very good wouldn't know how good it would be on a hilly property but for flat yards like mine it actually gives me a workout.
Dad has a 9 year old 20332. Wheels lock when pulling machine backwards. Installed new OEM Toro drive belt like this guy did. Rear wheels still lock up when pulling backwards. Anyone else have this issue? Mainly the right wheel that locks.
@rick james. Or it could be this as a possibility. www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/toro-personal-pace-only-engages-when-you-pull-backward-on-handel.62415/
Thanks for the video. I have a personal pace from 2015 and the belt just now needs changing. But...there is no way that can be the correct blade for that mower. It should fit the entire width of the holding carrier that it sets in. That blade looks to narrow.
I've just replaced my transmission, but when i push it forward the transmission rotates an locks the rear wheels. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello. I apologize for the delay. I wracked my brain and I cannot think of why it would be doing that. Is it an OEM part or an aftermarket? All I can think of is a bad part
great video-- I followed some other video and got the part from Amazon, but the belt was too tight to go on both pulleys - this video clearly explained how you can do it... thanks
Thanks for the video. Yours is more helpful that the one by Toro! This is the exact configuration for my mower. I guess I am lucky that my belt had lasted 10 years.
I'll throw in a couple tips. First, if you are having problems removing the side srcews for the baffle, move the rear wheel beyond the highest setting and the wheel will be out of the way. Then it's not much trouble to remove screws from both sides and get the whole baffle out of the way. My owners manual recomends tightening the blade bolt to 60 ft-lbs. This is where a 6-12 inch piece of 2x4 is very useful for holding the blade from turning while tightening/torquing as shown in the owners manual.
Great tips! Everyone will benefit from them. Thank you!
Thanks for the great video. Very informative and loved the trick of loosening the rear guard to turn the transmission for access to the cover versus the hassle of removing/disassembling the wheels. Big time saver.
You're welcome! Glad you could use it
Thanks for listing the belt number. Was having a heck of a time finding a good number for it
You’re very welcome!!
5:53 why they used square screws are beyond me. They will be stripped by 2-3rd belt change. I've only changed my belt once on my 2010 toro recyler 20332
Great video especially the video quality and narration for the belt replacement including repositioning the guard. I have some tips here 1) unplug the spark plug wire whenever working the blade 2) use a vice grip to clamp the fuel line when tipping 3) adjusting the rear wheels temporarily will provide socket access to the screws behind the rear wheels for the guard 4) although not the video purpose, sharpen the blade on a grinder while it is off. Lastly, nice of you to be a good neighbor.
Thank you kindly for the compliment!
The blade angle should be at 35° I'v made several templates. One cardboard and one a 4" wide aluminum one
Reference #2 The oil is more of a problem. Always tip the deck carb side UP.
Thank You! Very helpful. Don't Forget to remove the spark plug wire before starting this repair!
You’re welcome! And you’re absolutely right! Big fault on my part w the plug
It won't start if the bar on the handle isn't engaged .
@@glenthecarguy You really going to trust loosing some fingers based on that? If nothing else, just pull the plug wire off.
Thx .. I have that exact problem .. now I can try my mower
Excellent video: thorough, comprehensive and detailed right down to the wrenches and sizes required for each step.
Thank you for the compliment!
I turn wheel height adjustment to access the shield bolts
I have a 28 year old Lawnboy Gold series made by Toro where the entire belt is on the top of the deck . The belt and the 3 speed transmission have never failed in all that time and I cut a 1/4 acre once a week. Why can't they make them like that anymore? Planed obsolescence ? Except for cleaning and greasing the small drive gears so they will slip when going backwards and replacing the wheels when they wore out and split the drive train has been trouble free. What recently failed the blower housing from metal fatigue where it bolted to the engine from so many pull starts and I replaced the pull cord itself once.
You’re absolutely right. They don’t make money on things that last 20 years
Thanks for saving me a ton of time today! My belt was in good shape but somehow came off the wheel by the gear box. I honestly don't know how it worked itself off. I'm thinking a stick wedged in there just right. Long story short I disassembled just like you did and put the belt back on and reassembled. It works good again and the belt tension seems good to me! Just in case I noted the belt part number. Thanks again!!
just replaced the belt on my Toro Personal Pace lawn mower with the help of this video, lawn mower is back up and running again..thank you for the very helpful video!!
Do you recall the specific belt you used?
You are very welcome!
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Hey, everybody, here's a hint. Rake and pick up sticks that fall out of trees. They seem to cut or mulch easily, but a chunk the size of a short pencil can ruin a belt if it gets stuck in the pulley.
Hey You Can Move The Rear Wheels Up And Down To Get To The "Bolts"
Thanks!
Cool, video, save yourself some time, and remove the wheel next time.👍👍
Good advice! Wish I knew that earlier
Killer instructions - this was a massive help! Made this job a snap-thank you very much for taking the time to show this!!
You are very welcome! Thank you for the comment
Same model as I have and I was looking for info on this, thanks so much for the video.
You didn't show how to adjust the drive cable.
I didn't realize that. I think it was on my mind and once I found the problem I didn't need to adjust it
I'm not a mechanic but thanks to you I was able to fix my Toro Personal Pace on my own! Much appreciated!!!
Hello! You are very welcome. Thank you for the comment
Me too. great stuff.
Great informative video. I am confident I can do this myself now. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Thank you for the comment!
Excellent instrucional video ! Thank you Ted Jasiewicz
Thank you. You are very welcome!
Is there a way to adjust the belt. I bought a new one because the existing one was lose, installed the new one but still seems lose to me
Hello. I am trying to remember but I think you can tighten up the threads on the spring for the personal pace bar
@hdkevin4387 so to tighten the belt you use the same knob that you would use to adjust the self propel?
I was able to correct the problems my self-propel system was having from watching this video .Thanks for guiding me through.
You are very welcome! Glad I could help
Great video. Thanks
You are very welcome!
My recycler was new in 2008 and to this day it starts every time on the 1st pull. Great mower/engine.
Agree but yours and mine have the old style metal carb and the one in the video is el cheapo plastic.
Bro! This REALLY helped me change my drive belt. A million thanks for posting this. I really appreciate it!!
You are very welcome! Thank you kindly for the comment.
Man this was a ton of help 💯😁
You're very welcome!
Thanks! My Toro lost power drive with about 15 feet left on my lawn. I thought it had jumped off or jammed on the "clutch" end of the mechanism, but couldnt figure out how to get to it to fix it. You gave me the information and its running great now. Thanks again.
Thanks, Kevin. Excellent tutorial. I have had many problems with Toro lawn equipment. They have been suffering from poor engineering.
You’re very welcome!
Can you work on one of these in the Stow position which would give full access to the underside of the mower?
This video saved me today. The belt broke half way through my cut and I didn't know what was going on. It was smoking and not propelling. Fortunately, my local hardware store had the right belt and I got it fixed in time to finish the cut. Thanks so much!
Awesome! You’re very welcome!!!
Drawing in the manual looks like the cable setup for AWD self propel
Ok, here is some critical information, for those of us, with an electric/pull start system, and the black battery box on the deck of the mower. Ok, YES, there is a bolt underneath the box. But, it is towards the back of the mower, and you will see a slightly raised section of the box, that does not touch the deck, but sit's above it, about 1/4-3/8". The bolt you have to access is, literally in that notch, towards the backside of the black box/mower. And, I have found, that the box is riveted to the deck. So, for full access, you will have to rip the box off of the top of the deck, revealing 2 of the 3 bolts, as the 2nd bolt is, along the left side of the black battery box, just underneath the side front corner. But, if you are able to remove all of the plastic covers off of the back, including the flapper, for the bag. As, the top of the flapper for the bag hatch, is literally what has you blinded from seeing the bolt in the first place, besides the battery box itself. And, since I can't start it with the key anymore(Long story short, the cable harness was ripped out of the key starter switch, and ruined it), so it's pretty useless to me, at the moment. So, I decided to just rip the black box itself off. Which, made it much more simpler to access all 3 bolt's, for the plastic belt guard underneath. Also, it is a good idea to take a plastic bag(Walmart bags will do fine), and use it underneath the gas cap, by taking the cap off, then draping the bag(Double layer, by using whole bag) over the open hole, then screw the cap back on, and you now have a sealed gas cap, from leaking...
I've owned this same mower since 2015 and the blade shouldn't fit like that on it's holder. It shouldn't be twisted. That whole blade holder and pulley has been jacked around with. Very strange looking and possibly dangerous.
That was very helpful. Have new belt and new blade going on my 4 yr old Toro PP Lawnmower. Am sure I could have figured it out, but like the way you didn't have to take rear wheels off.. Probably not a bad idea anyway to grease those gears up. Now, if you can figure out how to keep from wearing out a $60 grass catcher, that would be nice. They last about 2 years for me.
I didn't reed to replace the belt. Good thing, my undercarriage had the belt hood on it which it looks like you'd already removed for this video. So my fix was simply to go and loosen the transmission cable locking nut, push the transmission cable toward the engine, as you showed early-on in this video, then lock that nut back down again. I replaced the blade in the same session. It's like a whole new mower now.
Awesome! Great to hear!
Word of advice, to not have to fight with that spacer, just use a bit of grease on the backside, that is closest to the blade, as it act's as a suction cup, to hold it in place. While, not making it a permanent fix to the bottom of the cylinder it sit's in...
You are my hero for this damn video lol. Made my life easier, which is the best thing in the world.
Be sure to check your model # . This belt is for 2009 and up.
Just drove myself crazy for 2hours wondering what's going on bc I needed a bigger
91-2258 belt is about 2" bigger
The repair description is great. There is a repaired model. Broken rear pivot arm nut hole. How can I fix it?
No matter how much I search on the internet, I can't find the part. please. (model 20340 (7.25/163cc)
Great video, very very helpful. But I bet your ol' pappy would take you to woodshed for using a power driver behind a flat bit on a square drive bolt. Shame on you! :-) :-) :-) (but I won't tell on you)
thank you for the helpful video - saved me from going to the mower repair
You are very welcome! Glad it was helpful
nice job!
Thank you!
TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!
Thank u real good😊
My belt keeps coming off on the drive cable end of my 20332. I’ve tried two new different belts. The last one I tried was toro original. Any tips on how to fix this?
How do you tighten the belt on this type of mower?
Looks like someone was in there before. There are heat stains from welding, on the blade adaptor.
Very helpful
Thank you!
All good up until trying to get that spring out what a nightmare plus when those stupid screws with the No 2 spade if they are worn nightmare
9:58 move the wheel all the way up or down I forget which way, you can get easy access to that screw
How do you check transmission on self propelled mowers
That's exactly what happens to mine quite frequently! I always thought Toro was a good brand but now I wonder! The repair shop charges me over $60 to pick it up and replace the belt it. Gonna look for something else. Any suggestions please?
I can only think a component could be bent that is causing contact to the belt? I adjusted the belt guard under the mower deck and it hasn't had any problems since. Did you do your last repair or did the repair shop perform it?
@@hdkevin4387 Hi Kevin, thanks for answering back! I don't know anything about lawnmowers so the Toro guy in my town picks it up, charges me for that and for repairing. It's only 3 years old and last summer he claimed the transmission went out and that was almost $400! I don't want to put any more money into it, so I'm kinda stuck.... Thanks for your help!
@@susan5301 you’re welcome! I have a lawnboy that has been excellent the last 10 years. It doesn’t have the personal pace, but it has been very reliable
@@hdkevin4387 if you have a small yard 1/4 or less i would suggest a Ego battery mower. Cost about $ 500 but i've had mine 5 years and zero problems. No gas to buy or store. I love it.
@@rhalama1 that’s definitely the way to go!
Thank you for this great video! It 100% help me replace the belt and figure out why the wheels were returning. All the best and thanks again
You’re very welcome! I enjoy paying it forward as so many have helped me also
Thank you
You are very welcome sir
Thank you . I just learned what I was not doing to get the belt straight . I needed to move that guard . 👍
You are very welcome!
Thanks for this very helpful video.
Thank You! Very helpful.
First thing turn adjuster down take bolts out
My mower is 11 yrs older but built the same way
Wish I saw how you got the spring out.
Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏🏽
You are very welcome!
Thanks for this video!
You are very welcome. Thank you for your comment
I got mine on without taking anything apart on the drive side. Kind of a bear to get it around the pulley but it is possible.
Good to know. Thank you!
Very good video. Thank you.
You are very welcome. Thank you for your comment!
One problem is on an old mower you can't get the square head screws out to remove the flywheel guard off the transmission. I just adjusted the existing belt and as old as it is I have to practically run to keep up with it. Mine is a front wheel drive not rear. So this video was useless to me.
This comment is also useless
Instead of taking the blade and adapter off couldn't you just take the two bolts off the guide?
I'm having a hard time getting the belt cover back on. The holes are having a hard time lining up
Great vid but for us first time wannabe newbies even simple unscrewing is important to see so when the can moved it was kinda off-putting.
I’ve gotten better with my future videos. But you’re right I skimmed over a bunch on this one. I didn’t have my normal camera so the angles aren’t great either
What Robert Blake said. If you have a lot of junk( sticks, rocks, etc.) sooner or later something gets between belt & pulley. Takes less than 1/2 hour to put on new belt with this video.And that’s the first time !
Very true!
Video was excellent!! Thank you. By any chance do you know the Belt Length. I put a 3L350 on my mower and it's way too big.
You are very welcome. 3/8 x 33.25”circumference
Great video! Thank you so much for putting the belt part number in the description!
You are very welcome!
Awsome tutorial thank you
You are very welcome! Thank you
Thank you! Storage over the Winter must have loosen the nut on the cable. I had the handle and with a few spins I was back in business.
You’re very welcome! Glad you got it squared away for free!
Thanks to your video I was able to change the belt on my Toro 20332 Self Propelled mower. Now, the back wheels run by themselves and much too fast. I tried adjusting the wire on the side handle both ways and the mower still wants to run by itself. What am I missing? Is it possible I stretched the cable when I struggled to put the spring back on? What would cause the wheels to run by themselves?
Hello. You’re very welcome. It means the belt is too tight. Well the cable could be pinched if you had to struggle with it. Does it move freely back and forth? Also could the belt be the wrong size? If it’s too small it will bite on the pulley even if not engaged. Could the spring be misaligned perhaps?
Wondering if you got this figured out? I literally just did this today. I'm wondering if maybe the wire going to the gear box got kinked making it shorter and and in rest position the drive is already engaged. I know getting that spring reconnected was a pain in the butt for me!! I would watch the part again where he reconnects the spring to make sure the position is correct. I know I made a mental note of that when I was reassembling.
Going to use this tomorrow. Real pain in the neck without power wheels. Thanks
Great! Hope it worked out ok
Great video....is it worth replacing the spring ??
This spring seemed ok. But while you’re in there never hurts
Very helpful used as a guide today and my mowers back working perfectly thanks!!
You’re very welcome! I’m happy to pay it forward
I have this walk behind troy built and need the covering for the belt t the tranny like the one here -do you have a used one and could I purchase it? Belt keeps coming off. Or might i need a new spring? Great video! Sound, clarity, instructionally!
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Thanks, very helpful when I thought I broke my Dad's mower. Didn't need to replace the drive belt, it was just jammed with a stick, but your video really helped access the problem area.
Hello! You're very welcome!
Just as I was finishing my front yard the mower self propel stopped and there was like a screaming when I would try to engage it, I'm thinking something's going on with the belt. Hate to tear it apart but looks like I got to. I'm hoping your video helps. thanks Kevin
It’s not too bad! I just blindly started digging in there and it was quick and easy. You got this
@@hdkevin4387 sure hope so, thanks Kevin
I loved the information (time saving) and your audio (explaining)! A lot of the time your subject in the video was just out of view!
Thank you! I didn't have my regular camera which has a screen on the back so I was guessing most of the time as to what I was filming. Ha ha
Excellent video
Great video very helpful. If it wasn’t for your help I wouldn’t have just mowed my lawn after a week and a half! Thanks
You're very welcome! Glad I could help out!
Thanks for the video. I think watching it kept me from taking some things apart I didn't need to!
You are very welcome!
I did the same thing to mines but it still doesn’t self propel
I have heard of the gearbox on these failing before. That is the next place I would look
I have a question on the belt cover. I was cleaning the bottom of my mower and I noticed there was alot of grass clumps underneath the cover and the pulley so I took the cover off and got all the grass out but now I can't get the cover back on. I'm having a hard time lining the holes up with the screws
Is there some kind of ridge that the cover pops on in order to get the screws to line up?
My mower is the same make and model as the one in the video
Thanks for the video, I found it after I had already replaced my slipped and chewed up belt. I replaced belt with identical OEM belt and it lasted about a month and new belt slipped off again, what should I be adjusting to increase tension of the new new belt before I replace it again?
Yea...wheres this reply?
Simple...the pulleys are worn so even a new belt runs looser than it should. The pulley on the mower shaft takes most of the wear so replace it (about $25) and this should help eliminate the problem.
PERFECT !!!! thank you so much !!!
You are very welcome. Glad it helped!
I can get the blade bolt off, but that plate underneath it is stuck on. I've beat the heck out of it underneath with a hammer and have trying prying it. Tried wd40 and PB Blaster.
The next step: Put some heat on it. Do you have MAP gas? That's my choice for stuck bolts.
@@hdkevin4387 Thanks. I was able to get the belt on and off without removing that blade mount. Only removed the blade. I have some other problems with the mower though.
1. The plate that the wheel screw goes into stripped so I bought another plate, but I can't get the old one off. It's the "yellowish" bare metal piece.
2. The spring under the push handle that pushes it back towards you broke. I bought a new one but can't figure out how to get the spring off/on that rod that it wraps around.
Also one of the bolts holding that belt guard, and thus holding the engine, snapped off. I need to buy a bolt extractor.
Kevin, Have you ever compared that Personal Pace Toro from HD to the same model from a Toro dealer? I have one from the dealer and noticed several differences (minor) differences in this video. My mower is seven years old so that my be the reason. I just wonder if the HD model cuts any corners on quality.
I have. You are spot on. There is a reason why they don't last and are so cheap. It is disappointing. More plastic and stamped parts
@@hdkevin4387 Thanks.
This was exactly what I needed, thanks. The belt had gotten stuck between the pulley and housing on the back end. It was still in good shape, so it didn't need replacing. I was running over a lot of sticks when it happened, so I must have gotten a twig in there that spun it off or something.
Hello. Glad you got it all fixed up!
@@hdkevin4387 Yeah, I would have never figured all those parts to move, or that stupid square drive, otherwise. It took me an hour and a half to find all the right tools, and get it all apart, but seven minutes to put it all back!
Looks easy, thanks much!
You are very welcome!!
To remove the bolts holding the clippings chute just rotate the wheels to a different position as though you are changing cutting height for each bolt and you can take the bolts out with conventional socket and ratchet wrench. I removed the clippings chute completely, not sure about just bending it back out the way. I'm concerned it might crack or tear or somehow be distorted. Worked OK in this video to bend it back. But, you never know. Not that much harder to just remove it completely.
Good idea!
is it a square head bolt that holds the clippings chute to the back? mine is quite rusty... can't tell. need to get some liquid wrench.
Nice job! Those newer style gearboxes are much easier to change belts on than the old aluminum ones. Weird that it chewed the belt up so soon.
I agree. It must have been out of adjustment
A new OEM Toro drive belt is puny to say the least. No wonder they don't last. These are junk mowers.
Thanks for the video! These lawnmower videos have really helped. Some of your up close shots are great. The belt isn’t my problem, but still helpful. My personal pace quit working, too. Looks like that black bracket on the gear box that the spring on the end of the cable is attached to isn’t attached anymore. Looks like the bracket is the only thing moving when I move the handle, not good. Going to have to find another video to see how the bracket attaches to the trans and why mine isn’t attached anymore. Thanks, again!
Thanks. I was wondering about greasing the rear drive system. Any pointers? I’m getting some grinding when I try to go up big hills. Both drive wheels have good gears, so I’m thinking it’s a dry ratcheting mechanism somewhere.
Glad I went for the FWD version of this machine,seen a lot of videos of the RWD with a ton of different problems and they usually require more work and more parts.
Does it propel effectively? Are you satisfied?
@@hdkevin4387 Yes I am satisfied with the machine and it does propel very good wouldn't know how good it would be on a hilly property but for flat yards like mine it actually gives me a workout.
@@JoseSanchez-wb5rz great to hear!
Dad has a 9 year old 20332. Wheels lock when pulling machine backwards. Installed new OEM Toro drive belt like this guy did. Rear wheels still lock up when pulling backwards. Anyone else have this issue? Mainly the right wheel that locks.
Rick adjust your drive cable like he talked about in the beginning of the video. I have had this same problem and that was the fix for me.
@@BigChristopher So yours backs up now? This one won't back up. Wheels lock up in reverse.
@@rickjames6948 yes it backs up fine after I adjusted the cable.
Is it making a grinding noise when you pull it backwards?
@rick james. Or it could be this as a possibility. www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/toro-personal-pace-only-engages-when-you-pull-backward-on-handel.62415/
Thanks for the video. I have a personal pace from 2015 and the belt just now needs changing. But...there is no way that can be the correct blade for that mower. It should fit the entire width of the holding carrier that it sets in. That blade looks to narrow.
I've just replaced my transmission, but when i push it forward the transmission rotates an locks the rear wheels. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello. I apologize for the delay. I wracked my brain and I cannot think of why it would be doing that. Is it an OEM part or an aftermarket? All I can think of is a bad part
Was the trans installed backwards?
It could be that the transmission was for front wheel drive and not rear wheel or vice-versa.