1000 km PHEV trip in a day with a Mitsubishi Outlander
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- What does it feel like to travel with the Outlander PHEV 2018 Juro through France and UK for more than 1000 kilometres in a day?
Does it make any difference to efficiency if we charge at the pit stops?
How much petrol does it consume on the motorway in 30 Celsius heat and with the air conditioning on?
Is it cost and time effective to charge, or would you be incentivised to burn fossil fuel?
Stay tuned for a view on some of these questions.
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What type of miles per gallon have you achieved with your Outlander PHEV on long journeys? Leave a comment below with your own statistics.
6.6L/100km for a family sized SUV is pretty darn good. I'd expect that from me 2.0L 4cyl hatchback 🙂
When I need a new family car, I hope to get the new Outlander PHEV which can do max 85km of EV driving.
Spot on.
My trips w/o charging at all 7.0-7.5l /100 km. Max Speed 100km/h w/o AC. Max fuel consuming - 15.4 L / 100 Km ( 154 km by 1 hours). w/o charging. AC - on out temp ~ 5 C
Nice video!
Dec. 2023, 28th: Can´t await to get my brand new Eclipse Cross PHEV within the next two weeks.
Thanks and all the best!
Hmmm w211 e-class 3.2 6 cylinder diesel engine on the trip from UK to Germany consumption was 6.2l/100km, could achieve less then 6l/100km if not autobahns
Hmmm the Outlander is not a miracle worker. It's a big petrol SUV with poor drag coefficient. You re describing a large diesel Sedan, much better at cutting through air. Also one will do 0l/100km petrol in the city running on EV alone the other will probably do more than the quoted 6l/100km there. Remember, this is the test for the worst condition for this vehicle. And if you only do this type of journey then that's indeed a bad choice of a vehicle, take a Tesla M3 or an bmw i4.
On mid range travel i drive in mixed mode / save mode never really on empty battery. MPG is better and also the driving expierience i like more. If I ran completly empty on battery I also do recharges on longer travels, especially I like the combined way of driving better.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing
Didn't see this video on your playlist, it answers a question I posed on one of your other videos about driving in France.
Nice.
Cool - I will check it out
Exciting music. 👌🤸💪
No doubt a reflection of the adenturous nature of this trip ;-)
For regen breaking do you manually have to use the paddles to break? Also which mode has the most effective b1 or b5?
B5 is the highest regen, B0 is coasting ie none. You can use the paddles to modify the level of regen and therefore 'brake' without using the foot pedals but you don't have to. Check this out as well ruclips.net/video/hPRpR8SRbwg/видео.htmlfeature=shared
5,9L/100km on a 1700km trip without recharging ,
And 5,5L on the same trip with a Lexus is300h
My question is why don’t the car allow me to charge over 80%??? Cuz I’m only getting 13miles at 80%
Probably worth bringing to Mitsubishi for a check, they will likely do a dbcam procedure to reset the battery management system and relearn the true capacity. Then if you don't have enough capacity and you're within the battery warranty period then you probably want to ask for them to do something about this.
Best fckn soundtrack mate!
Hi.
Very useful video. Thanks for sharing...
What you used, charge or save mode on flat surfaces of highway?
And what would be the main difference in petrol usage beetwen those two?
Thanks. I saved rather than charge typically. If save is around 8l/100 you may peak at 13l when charging. But you get most of that back by releasing the energy later. My experience is thatit s hard to tell but logic is to avoid transforming energy too many times. A good exception is planning ahead of traffic jams where charging makes great sense given combustion engine performs so poorly at very low speed
Great...
I have 2600km to make in October, so 1l of petrol is big difference :)
Highway will be 90%. I have PHEVdog so will watch and monitor constantly.
For the work and weekend purposes with charge option when run of battery, I make 850km in 2 weeks with 38l of petrol. Cant ask for better really...
I will try the same with SAVE option...
@@dp05021988 my main advice would be to limit your speed, like in any other cars, eg cap at 110km/h. Losses of efficiency increase faster than speed!
For sure, 110km/h is max I will do.
Thanks for replies ;)
So question. How many times did you feel it up with fuel and how many charges. We are going to the Alps on the 19th January and our car is rubbish in mpg at 80pmh but far better when doing 70mph. We was going to go by van as the fuel is cheaper but the channel tunnel rip you off if you're van is over 1.8 meters high.
Hi. You may want to check ruclips.net/video/4UhL-oESWPk/видео.html which gives all the stats on this journey. 4x (and a partial 5th) charges and 1x fuel
@@evdabbler Thanks will have a look.
We are considering the 2022 Outlander PHEV. My biggest question is the convinience and time to charge and grab gas. If I understand correctly it's a 12 gallon tank that not only runs the SUV but can charge it as well. For trips that are 400 to 500 miles we are looking at 2 stops to recharge to 80% and fill up the tank. That adds up to about 60 to 90 minutes of your drive time yes? Compaired to a gas engine getting 24/30 MPG, only needing one stop and that taking 10-15 minutes. I am very excited to try it. I worry if I do and I hate it, Im stuck with it... Your thoughts please?
A very interesting question. A few thoughts. a) you need to look at the fuel efficiency on gas only as the starting point for comparison on longer trips. I estimated mine at 7.7l/100km or 37mpg imperial. b) you need to consider whether you d be going for a big suv anyway and how it d compare on efficiency to answer a. Chances are that if answer is yes then performance in a) looks pretty decent. c) time for refuelling gas on a long trip is going to be marginally different to any other car. Maybe you stop a 2nd time for gas (i didnt on this 600+ mile trip) but surely you are going to take more than one break on such a distance anyway so that shouldnt be a decision factor d) while charging on a long distance trip is optional and opportunistic (only charge if you re stopping anyway) you should be prepared to charge at home, or in between smaller commutes, and do that often. Otherwise no point getting a phev. This should be your real test of whether you can live with an outlander phev. All the best coming to a decision!
For 20-25 miles ev it ain’t worth waiting for it to charge IMO.
Thanks for the info.... In the end we couldn't wait any longer. We test drove a base model non EV. We liked it. But then they gave us the bad news. We could order a phev with no ETA or order a limited or black edition to exact color and spec and we would be looking at 8 to 10 months. In the end we left letting them know that if they ever got one that had our min. Requirements to let us know. Less than a week later we get a call that they just got a Black Edition in Cosmic Blue. That wasn't on there master order list. We average 26 mpg. On one long trip we took, about 350 miles we averaged 29.8 MPG.
@@Xceptionalist It charges 80% in 20 minutes with the ChaDeMo. That's a bite and a toilet.
How comfortable is the car on a long journey like you did? In terms of driving position and fatigue? I didn't quite understood if you travel with someone else, if you did how comfortable or tiring the person felt?
Thank you.
I would say very comfortable. There were three in the car and all feeling comfy. Seats are good. Maybe a bit more road noise coming in than on our previous bmw but nothing substantial
Very smooth not tiring
I was hoping to hear the noise of the engine etc on the motorway. How noisy is the car at speed?
I think it s fine at 110km/h or so. Nothing special.
Can you help me ?
I live in France but my family live in Hungary and the distance 1900km and i visit my family 2 times per year in one trip for visiting and coming back is already 4000 km and i use generally i use the highway with 120-130km/h but in the German highway is unlimited.
I want buying a car in the next year and i thinking about the Toyota Prius 4 or the Mitsubishi outlander but u need information from the Mitsubishi
Because i thinking about the SUV because the quality the roads in Hungary is very shit (in the highway also) and i thinking about something massive with a good consommation.
So my question:
How much the consommation in 100km if
1 i use in higway just driving like a normal hibrid?
If my speed general 130km/h?
If my speed general 150km /h?
And i mean the normal hybrid use is leas electric charging.
And what i use the plugs in capacity 50 % with 130km/h or the same with 150km/h speed general?
Just need your experience with the consommation parameter.
Did you check out my video with all the stats for the same trip. Essentially 7l/100km at 110km/h on pure hybrid, probably 9-10 (guessing) at 130. This is not the way to drive thousands of kilometers. A big fat suv even hybrid won't be efficient. My vote would be for the prius or maybe a plugin hybrid skoda sedan/combi
@@evdabbler thank you for your reply . yes, lately I'm also thinking about the Prius 4, I have a Prius 2 and so far I've only done the distance with it and it worked. that's exactly why I'm thinking that I'll buy another generation of the Prius. Let's say you just mentioned your Skoda, I'll look at that too.
Thank you very much .
You driving in B0. Why don’t use a higher B mode to charge the battery on the trip? Thank you for the video .
Thanks for watching. My understanding is that you are better off using the energy to move the car than to constantly brake then regen. There would be losses of energy in the transformation process. However if there is a steep slope and the speed would get too high, I would use the paddles to regen the battery. In other words the key is to minimise actual pedal braking.
@@evdabbler exactly. There is no point in regen braking if you are mostly on flat on a freeway, you want to save the kinetic energy and not waste it when taking your foot off the pedal. But you know what, that real world 6.6l/100km is really good still. You are getting like 4 cylinder sedan diesel economy, with a larger vehicle. And in town driving I doubt you even use gas, if you can charge up.
@@BaronBoar spot on. This shows what max l/km can be for the occasional long holiday trip. I then had weeks if not months achieving pretty close to electric only (ie 0l/100km)
Kia ceed 1.6 petrol 6.3 litres in city
How many leters of fuel did you used in 1000 km?
68.9l for 1037km that's 6.6l/100. See at 05:53
@@evdabbler that's 35.5 mpg. I have 42mpg in my diesel engine outlander 7 seater ... Wow i thought phev is almost free to drive
@@hext0ahmed444 you re talking Us mpg not imperial mpg i think. Either way that s still a petrol car running broadly like a "self charging" hybrid on this long distance. Overall however, ie when including local journeys i was at 3.45l/100km which is 68 mpg us, so substantially better than the diesel. Check out the other video with all the stats if you wish.
Is your outlander 2.0 or 2.4 engine.
Very a good journey.
It s the 2.0. Thanks
@@evdabbler
Many thanks.
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135 hp?
What app did you use? Android or IOS?
Hi. It's PHEV watchdog. It works very well with the Outlander.
@@evdabbler but is it Android or ios
@@marcelverbeek197 as per the official page, it will run on any Android device with Jelly Bean or newer and Bluetooth.
What was the final mpg? Cant see it thanks
6.6l per 100km or 42.8 miles per gallon
@@evdabbler so that's the fuel consumption
What's the electric consumption? One should sum the 2, right?
So petrol price of 6.6l/100km + xy € for electricity..
I'm looking to replace my diesel car.. I do about 3000km monthly.. Don't know if a plug in hybrid can do better results then diesel
@@luckystrike656 did you check out the video with all the stats on this trip. ruclips.net/video/4UhL-oESWPk/видео.html
Equivalent total was 7.5l, with electricity accounting for 12% of the cost. A small fraction despite a costly mistake using the wrong card on Ionity charger. Depending on how many trips you do in a month, full electric may work better for you. For instance 30 times 100km you should certainly consider full electric.
@@evdabbler no, I didn't check it but I will.
There is no rule... I use the car for work (Sales representative) so sometimes I do 60-120km/day of city driving, sometimes it's 300-600km mostly highway in one day or even more then that in 2 days.
Now with a diesel, without even trying I average 5-5.3l/100km
Not sure if Hybrids or plug-in hybrids could do better..
Thanks
@@luckystrike656 you need better drag coefficient than this big suv then. On electric, my guess is any of model 3, id3, mg5, kona or eniro would probably do this without breaking too much of a sweat. In phev, the ioniq is likely to be a reasonable choice, and maybe others like skoda superb, taking you below 4l if you charge regularly.
Hello
I once drove from chamonix to Manchester in a day
Left chamomix around 7.30am and got home around 9pm
Wasn’t that bad really and we weren’t much slower than the in-laws who got a bus to airport , plane and taxi home...
Mazda 6 2.2d 180bhp didn’t miss a beat and got nearly 50mpg
Hi. Thanks for sharing. Your journey would have been even another 3-400km in addition. The main point here is to see whether this big 2t SUV can keep mpg reasonable enough, because longer trips are its Achille's heel. Locally, with a bit of EV charging effort, you can reach >100 mpg or more without breaking much of a sweat. But all that effort would be ruined if the petrol efficiency was not kept in check for long trips. I think the Outlander does well here by not being all too far behind your Mazda!