I had a t460 at work. I wasn't happy at first, but I soon fell in love with it. I love the Thinkpad keyboards! Later, I decided to buy a refurbished t470 for home use. It came with Windows 10 Pro and 16 gigs of ram, and a 250 gig SSD drive. After many reminders it wasn't upgradeable to Windows 11 I nuked installed Linux Mint 21.2. It took a little tweaking but pretty much I was up and running right out of the box. I love it! I have a docking station with a 2nd monitor, Logitech webcam, Jabra, and 2 SSD drives attached. When I head out it's so easy to just pop it off the dock and go. Interesting though, mine does not have the fingerprint reader and it has 2 batteries, internal & external. Also, it has 6 screws holding the case together, so you are absolutely right. Be very very careful opening the case. My main use is simple, writing, surfing the net, and video conferencing. I wish you could upgrade the CPU, then this thing would pretty much last me forever.
Honestly one of the best REAL reviews of this model on RUclips. I love how the creator mentions the missing 3rd screw on the bottom of the laptop. I open my computers all the time and i would have never known that was a design flaw and probably would have broken all my clips. These insights are why people look for computer reviews. I might look at the T460 now because of what was presented in this video.
I have T460 and T470 too, and this is my opinion: > T460 + better keyboard, more deep feeling when typing. + I got with touchscreen display, I think the display have more accurate white color, the T470 have a warmer color. + when the CPU full load, the fan more silent. > T470 + have a slimmer body, about 1.5 millimeter. > The Thunderbolt 3 port is a great upgrade: USB Type C for data, dispay and charging. And yes, opening backcover on T470 is more delicate than T460.
You forgot to mention the usb c port on the t470 also supports thunderbolt 3. So you can connect egpu and play games or connect to 4k monitors and many more.
I just bought one, used, but what I dislike compared to my old T450s is that they messed up the power bridge for the batteries. On the 450s the first one to drain was the external, but now they changed it so that the first to drain is the one with less wear to it...meaning, if I have two external batteries with me which have worse wear than the internal, then I am screwed, because the internal will discharge prior to the external. They basically destroyed the whole power bridge. They do excuse this by the fact, that the internal and external batteries wear similiary, but they should have included a setting for it for the user to decide. On my 450s my internal battery was as good as new, with minimal wear to it and the external one was the one that got the wear. On the other side, internal batteries are more expensive and lenovo figured out this could be a good money grab for them. They let me down...
There isn't really that much difference - and he did point out the differences. There's a USB3 port (Thunderbolt) on the T470, the T460 just has the mini-DisplayPort. The CPU's are different too - the T460 has the 6th gen Intel U-series, while the T470 has the 7th gen. I'm typing this on a T460 :). Good machine, and unless you have a niche requirement for the slightly better CPU or USB 3 port (Thunderbolt), there really isn't that much difference (as pointed out in the video).
Excellent review! Thank you - especially for the warning about how to pull the T470 apart!! I use Linux exclusively and have ordered the T470p (because I mess around with CUDA and wanted an Nvidia GPU - even the 940mx and its 384 CUDA cores will do for my purposes). I could be wrong, but I believe Lenovo never released a 460 model with an Nvidia GPU. Anyway, thanks again for the review (comparison).
Thank you! I have eyes on the T460 and the T470, but the issue with the T470 is that it came with a 1TB HDD which I planned to replace with an SSD. Since they're isn't much difference between the two, I will go with the T460 with SSD to replace my old but faithful X230.
@@destinycoach5 The old drives are really slow in comparison and they will slow down your entire computer. Perhaps if you're just using it for very basic tasks it may not matter but in general I have not used a regular hard drive since 2010.
t410 is a great little laptop! I've had several of them and the only issue I've run into is video drivers for Win10. When you install Win10 the video won't look great, but after a few days it will download updates and video will be B+ quality.
I'm so happy to see someone else ask this. I ask about the mouse pad and cursor movement all the time and people simply won't answer the question. Itz like they have no idea there is a difference and I have 2 computers that I hate the mouse for the cursor doesn't do what it should.
@@destinycoach5 i got it from my workplace with an employee discount. It has worked really well, but since it has an hdd i will change it to ssd. Awesome laptop if you can find it a bit cheaper.
@@cenkaetaya I'm here cuz I'm about to buy a t460 i5 12 ram and 512 ssd. But this comment is pretty close to my situation and you saying not to buy the 460. How come? I also don't need portability... I just want something that does what I want and does it fast. I can't stand it when I have to push a button 2 or 3 times or I get buffering. This is just for me in home use to store, store, make documents. I don't game. I go for the business laptop cuz I bought one machine from best buy and I hated it so much I wanted to throw it against the wall every time I turned it on. Then I went to hp pro then elitebook. I've had these last 2 since 2009. Why did you suggest the Z model?
Lol Everytime I look at these kinds of videos I get fired 🔥 up!! & Here I was 24 hours ago about to buy a T440p ,8GB ,I5.. I settled at a T460 now I'm looking at this like I made a mistake. Hahaha 😅 P.S I ordered my T460 today for 300 that comes in tomorrow or the next win 10installed!! I hope I Love it
There are so many display options when you buy a Thinkpad... :( So because you'd be buying it used, you can probably only count on measuring it yourself before you buy OORRR expecting the worse screen option (like 250 nits) unless otherwise specified.
Since the *30 series they made them more like any other laptop on the market, if not for the trackpoint and the red butons you wouldn't know it's a thinkpad.
@@VSOUR88 “PowerBridge” is a internal-battery that’s permanently-connected to the motherboard (and is pretty-difficult for newbies to disconnect; I wouldn’t recommend, let-alone suggest, disconnecting any internal-battery unless you know what you’re doing and you’re prepared to live with the consequences of breaking the battery-cable and/or breaking the battery-socket that is on the motherboard) and a external battery. The bullshit[/lie] [told by Lenovo] was “you can disconnect the external battery *without* first-turning-off the laptop”, but you can do that with any computer that DIDN’T have “power-bridge”; just have the laptop connected to the AC-adapter *BEFORE* you remove the external-battery (and the laptop will-NOT turn off). It’s also not-a-good-idea to have any power-source connected to the laptop if you’re going to change the RAM and/or internal-storage of the computer, because you could short-circuit a component; it’s always best to make-sure you don’t have any electricity flowing THROUGH the computer BEFORE you make any changes to it. (And by “changes” I mean “physical changes”; hardware changes).
What color is the sky in your world? You either get it or you don't. Buying a Mac? Undisputed quality. Windows can do everything a Mac can do, but not the other way around. We're living in a Windows world & Lenovo is at the top.
What? So your software can run out of date after a few years? So you can carry 20 lbs around because it’s so heavy? The point of a laptop is portability. Nobody likes carrying around a MacBook. Not to mention the price, when you can get a thinkpad with the same specs at a fraction of the price.
I had a t460 at work. I wasn't happy at first, but I soon fell in love with it. I love the Thinkpad keyboards! Later, I decided to buy a refurbished t470 for home use. It came with Windows 10 Pro and 16 gigs of ram, and a 250 gig SSD drive. After many reminders it wasn't upgradeable to Windows 11 I nuked installed Linux Mint 21.2. It took a little tweaking but pretty much I was up and running right out of the box. I love it! I have a docking station with a 2nd monitor, Logitech webcam, Jabra, and 2 SSD drives attached. When I head out it's so easy to just pop it off the dock and go. Interesting though, mine does not have the fingerprint reader and it has 2 batteries, internal & external. Also, it has 6 screws holding the case together, so you are absolutely right. Be very very careful opening the case. My main use is simple, writing, surfing the net, and video conferencing. I wish you could upgrade the CPU, then this thing would pretty much last me forever.
Honestly one of the best REAL reviews of this model on RUclips. I love how the creator mentions the missing 3rd screw on the bottom of the laptop. I open my computers all the time and i would have never known that was a design flaw and probably would have broken all my clips. These insights are why people look for computer reviews. I might look at the T460 now because of what was presented in this video.
I have T460 and T470 too, and this is my opinion:
> T460 + better keyboard, more deep feeling when typing.
+ I got with touchscreen display, I think the display have more accurate white color, the T470 have a warmer color.
+ when the CPU full load, the fan more silent.
> T470 + have a slimmer body, about 1.5 millimeter.
> The Thunderbolt 3 port is a great upgrade: USB Type C for data, dispay and charging.
And yes, opening backcover on T470 is more delicate than T460.
You forgot to mention the usb c port on the t470 also supports thunderbolt 3. So you can connect egpu and play games or connect to 4k monitors and many more.
I just bought one, used, but what I dislike compared to my old T450s is that they messed up the power bridge for the batteries. On the 450s the first one to drain was the external, but now they changed it so that the first to drain is the one with less wear to it...meaning, if I have two external batteries with me which have worse wear than the internal, then I am screwed, because the internal will discharge prior to the external. They basically destroyed the whole power bridge. They do excuse this by the fact, that the internal and external batteries wear similiary, but they should have included a setting for it for the user to decide. On my 450s my internal battery was as good as new, with minimal wear to it and the external one was the one that got the wear. On the other side, internal batteries are more expensive and lenovo figured out this could be a good money grab for them. They let me down...
Good to know, thanks.
This is a great idea video. I would appreciate if the video could be more detail regarding the difference between T460 and T470
There isn't really that much difference - and he did point out the differences. There's a USB3 port (Thunderbolt) on the T470, the T460 just has the mini-DisplayPort. The CPU's are different too - the T460 has the 6th gen Intel U-series, while the T470 has the 7th gen. I'm typing this on a T460 :). Good machine, and unless you have a niche requirement for the slightly better CPU or USB 3 port (Thunderbolt), there really isn't that much difference (as pointed out in the video).
Is it me or the t470's body material has darker finish than the gray-ish t460, reminds me of the t430 and older Thinkpad models (which I like)
A little yeah, I like it too.
Excellent review! Thank you - especially for the warning about how to pull the T470 apart!! I use Linux exclusively and have ordered the T470p (because I mess around with CUDA and wanted an Nvidia GPU - even the 940mx and its 384 CUDA cores will do for my purposes). I could be wrong, but I believe Lenovo never released a 460 model with an Nvidia GPU.
Anyway, thanks again for the review (comparison).
t460p is with nvidia 940mx too
T470 is the best laptop I have had, It had everything. Now laptops are crap. It was tricky to take apart.
It was a good one, I wish it had the quad core chips that the T480 had, however the 470 was a much better computer in build quality.
Thanks for the warning mate!
Thanks! The comparison of the ethernet ports was very useful. I'll stick with the T450 for now.
grazie, se provava accensione e avvio win...era video perfetto
Thanks for the warning buddy, I really appreciate it.
Thank you! I have eyes on the T460 and the T470, but the issue with the T470 is that it came with a 1TB HDD which I planned to replace with an SSD. Since they're isn't much difference between the two, I will go with the T460 with SSD to replace my old but faithful X230.
Replace the ssd yourself as itl likely come with a cheap one and that way you can just get a Samsung right away.
@@cenkaetaya so is the guy above saying that 1T HDD storage is not as good as the ssd storage? What is the difference?
@@destinycoach5 The old drives are really slow in comparison and they will slow down your entire computer. Perhaps if you're just using it for very basic tasks it may not matter but in general I have not used a regular hard drive since 2010.
What about the e14
nice I always liked ThinkPad i started with t40 it died about 2 years ago now have t410 i brought 6 months ago
How do you like the t410? Is it a good laptop?
t410 is a great little laptop! I've had several of them and the only issue I've run into is video drivers for Win10. When you install Win10 the video won't look great, but after a few days it will download updates and video will be B+ quality.
bought a T470 for linux :)
What is the difference in feel between the t460 and t470 trackpad feel of the surface and the click? Also, how do the keyboard feel compare?
I'm so happy to see someone else ask this. I ask about the mouse pad and cursor movement all the time and people simply won't answer the question. Itz like they have no idea there is a difference and I have 2 computers that I hate the mouse for the cursor doesn't do what it should.
Hello, It would be good a t470 i7 or a t480 i7?
I have heard a lot of bad things on the t480
Just got the thinkpad t460 with backlit keyboard for 70$ and its almost brand new condition 😁
wow congratss, very cheap btw
@@devapx yeah, it has been a really great laptop for the price 👍
@@0lz179 you got a 460 for $70?!!!! How did that happen? I'm looking at one now and it 400$!! Do you love it? How's it working for you?
@@destinycoach5 i got it from my workplace with an employee discount. It has worked really well, but since it has an hdd i will change it to ssd. Awesome laptop if you can find it a bit cheaper.
@@0lz179 congrats awesome deal.
so can u tell Me the difference between ssd and hdd and why you would switch it out. Tks
I really hope they don´t drop down that Eth port!!
Is 425 dollars/ 31,000 Indian rupees a good deal for a used T460 with 16gb Ram, 512 SSD and touch screen?
Unless you need portability, id get an older quad core i7, like a Zbook 17 or 15.
@@cenkaetaya I'm here cuz I'm about to buy a t460 i5 12 ram and 512 ssd. But this comment is pretty close to my situation and you saying not to buy the 460. How come? I also don't need portability... I just want something that does what I want and does it fast. I can't stand it when I have to push a button 2 or 3 times or I get buffering. This is just for me in home use to store, store, make documents. I don't game.
I go for the business laptop cuz I bought one machine from best buy and I hated it so much I wanted to throw it against the wall every time I turned it on.
Then I went to hp pro then elitebook. I've had these last 2 since 2009.
Why did you suggest the Z model?
Lol Everytime I look at these kinds of videos I get fired 🔥 up!! & Here I was 24 hours ago about to buy a T440p ,8GB ,I5..
I settled at a T460 now I'm looking at this like I made a mistake. Hahaha 😅
P.S I ordered my T460 today for 300 that comes in tomorrow or the next win 10installed!! I hope I Love it
Is 425 dollars/ 31,000 Indian rupees a good deal for a used T460 with 16gb Ram, 512 SSD and touch screen?
So you didn't get the 440? Do you love the 460?! How happy are you with it 2 yrs later?
Is t460 good for autocad?
Thumbs down. How can you review and compare without even turning them on.
What are the displays like?
There are so many display options when you buy a Thinkpad... :( So because you'd be buying it used, you can probably only count on measuring it yourself before you buy OORRR expecting the worse screen option (like 250 nits) unless otherwise specified.
Since the *30 series they made them more like any other laptop on the market, if not for the trackpoint and the red butons you wouldn't know it's a thinkpad.
Can I install 2nd SSD HDD on Lenovo Thinkpad T460?
Nope.Only the T470 of the two.
I have a Glue gun if the clips break
Good call.
I have a Glock if the screen freezes.
Why everyone like the thinkpad?
They are AMAZING quality- especially the keyboard
Why don't have backlight keyboard with this ThinkPad T470 model?
It has back light
Does t460 support ssd?
Yes
T530 is better than T460 and T470.
why
@@VSOUR88 “PowerBridge” is a internal-battery that’s permanently-connected to the motherboard (and is pretty-difficult for newbies to disconnect; I wouldn’t recommend, let-alone suggest, disconnecting any internal-battery unless you know what you’re doing and you’re prepared to live with the consequences of breaking the battery-cable and/or breaking the battery-socket that is on the motherboard) and a external battery.
The bullshit[/lie] [told by Lenovo] was “you can disconnect the external battery *without* first-turning-off the laptop”, but you can do that with any computer that DIDN’T have “power-bridge”; just have the laptop connected to the AC-adapter *BEFORE* you remove the external-battery (and the laptop will-NOT turn off).
It’s also not-a-good-idea to have any power-source connected to the laptop if you’re going to change the RAM and/or internal-storage of the computer, because you could short-circuit a component; it’s always best to make-sure you don’t have any electricity flowing THROUGH the computer BEFORE you make any changes to it. (And by “changes” I mean “physical changes”; hardware changes).
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The last true Thinkpad is 2012 model.
Farar Rarara change is the only constant
did you mean x220?
all the 2012. the x220, x220s, t420, t520, and so on...
People please dont buy this crap. T470p. Totally a crap laptop. Better buy a Macbook pro.
What color is the sky in your world? You either get it or you don't. Buying a Mac? Undisputed quality. Windows can do everything a Mac can do, but not the other way around. We're living in a Windows world & Lenovo is at the top.
What? So your software can run out of date after a few years? So you can carry 20 lbs around because it’s so heavy? The point of a laptop is portability. Nobody likes carrying around a MacBook. Not to mention the price, when you can get a thinkpad with the same specs at a fraction of the price.
I have a MacBook Pro with 8 core processor and 32 gigs RAM. I need the Thinkpad for programming in Windows environment.
blud