Ditto. Specialist is available under 2k and new TRPs are MSRP at 1999. Polymer trigger shoe? Like really? That said I’d buy a TRP for 1200 but no more than that.
Dan Wesson wasn’t in the evaluation for the fbi contract. The Sig was chosen for the military, does that mean it’s better than Glock, Smith, CZ, Beretta…etc? Get a clue rube.
I love my 2 TRPs but they’re from 2011 or so. Not sure I’m in love with some of the new changes though. I have 2 1911s that are railed, but really haven’t embraced a rail on the design. Don’t know if it’s a must have, as my 1911s aren’t duty guns.
@@TheRealZJE313 This isn't that gun. This is a production line gun that gets a little hand fitting while the Professional (the gun that did win) is a full blown custom built 1911.
My favorite reviewer on RUclips. Watching your reviews is like sitting in a classroom (in the best sense). Professional, concise, thorough. A true pleasure to watch your videos. I bought my last pistol based on your review, and this is going to be the next one. Cheers!
I love the fact that you are a professional and explain in detail for anyone to understand. Very well appreciated. I’m subscribed now will continue to follow.
still my duty carry...aftec extractor, fusion firearms tooless guiderod....no problems in 5 years......i carry 4 10 round mags and 4 more in my go bag......great video.....
Thanks for the great review. At this price point it is a shame to see MIM parts. Not that MIM parts are intrinsically bad, but for this price one can get a Dan Wesson that is all tool steel.
Fantastic content. This video may be your finest hour. Very grateful for the time you took to put this together. Your honesty in reviews is refreshing.
So happy to see these again! Just wish they came out a bit sooner. Got tired of waiting and picked up a Kimber TLE/RL II instead. Luckily that one's been chugging along just fine for the past year!
They are coming out with a full rail commander size called the blackout. Theres some you tube videos out now. There single stack 1911s not the prodigy.
Thank you for such n outstanding and detailed review. I ordered my TRP yesterday. You can be sure I will emulate your testing protocol to put my TRP through its paces and make it my carry pistol. Thanks again Hilton. Keep the videos coming. Your experience and your disposition to teach from it are very commendable. I will listen intently and pass it on in my classes. Marcos
Awesome review, thanks for taking the time to put it together. It's really cool to see Springfield bring back the TRP in a modernized form and even cooler to see that the guns function properly. Sadly, I can't see myself spending what they're asking for a gun with that much MIM in it. And just to be clear to everyone who might read this, MIM in a gun is fine, MIM in a gun that costs what they're asking for these new TRPs is not.
Inflation is a thing. If they hadn't used MIM parts they could not have brought it to market at this price. Simple economics. It's relatively inexpensive for a non-garbage tier 1911.
If Tisas can forge slides and. Frames from hardened 4140, cold hammer forge and chrome their barrels, forge all their internal small parts and offer it in a gun that cost me $279, Springfield could do better for $1900.
I have a springfield operator in 9mm and have nearly 2500 on it with no issues besides finding the right mags. Ill be adding 10-8 sights to it and running it til something breaks. I really enjoy the single stack gun. Next up is a proper 45. I got a 9mm for cost reasons.
Man, love your vids! Just found you a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for all of your time with the content! Do you do have any upcoming Colt vids? I’d be curious to know if CZ improved the quality as of late.
Really great review testing and explaining your results. I am glad that SA continues to make outstanding 1911s. I do think it is time for a RDS cut on these. I have used a dovetail mount but it's really not sufficient for a hard recoiling round like the .45 on the 1911.
got into 1911s by buying sr1911 ruger commanders. most recent was a officer size ruger. had become familier enough to recognize its failure to feed was caused by a to tight extractor. after a little tweaking ( thanks to internet) its been 100 percent. now im watching people in the know to see if mim parts vs forged machine parts is worth worring about for concealed carriers who dont shoot that much.
While I would've liked something like a Les Baer, the $3000+ price point wasn't feasible for me, so this was the best option. Being in CA I had to go with that model but at least I got it before that infringement of an 11% sin tax (bad enough with sales tax).
It is nice to see the return of the bushing. Agreed on the two piece guide rod and grip screws. I wish they would have incorporated the u notch rear big dot front sights already incorporated in other pistols. I'm sorry but front strap checkering is not worth an extra $1000 and still get MIM parts. I have a railed earlier version that i made tool less takedown, single side safety and waited to long to buy the 10-8 replacement rear sight. PS another point of contention, my Citadel with a new bushing is more accurate than my TRP.
If you go even further back, Springfield offered an original TRP 5” without front cocking serrations and also a 4” TRP Champion Single sided safeties and super sexy for what they were They also offered the “TRP Package” on customer supplied guns. I ended up with a Springfield Hi-Cap that had the TRP package done to it (including the TRP branding on the slide) The OG guns are super rare today.
Thanks for this Hilton! My perception is that you have upped your game by an order of magnitude in terms of our vido editing (always been excellent content). I infer that you may have spent Pi * your normal hours to produce this video, and my opinion is that from a viewer perspective is that I appreciate it. However, COMMA (thanks Uncle Pat), I'm curious if the juice was worth the squeeze for you (?).
Love your 1911 parts and use them for my builds. Hoping you make thumb safeties and grip safeties soon. Like your overall though process when making parts
I'm glad you pointed out the 2 piece guide rod. For the life of me I can't fathom why Springfield insists on keeping that junk around. I wish they would either revert back to a GI setup, or to a solid full length guide rod and save users the trouble.
Excellent work. Most comprehensive review I've sent. Love how you till apart the Gunn and later the MIM parts. Which Inn guessing can be replaced... Even the GCU? Springfield could have avoided using MIM parts.. Damn Wisdom does...
Great review. I like the looks of the "classic" commander and might have to save up my pennies for one down the road. I have had great luck with Springfield 1911s. Recently found a used (2003 production) Loaded Target that shoots really well - very accurate. It is built on the squared-dust-cover-frame, but that has not been an issue with holsters. My favorite remains the Garrison with its clean slide, good trigger and good accuracy for a decent price. Thanks again.
My favorite 10-8 part is the recoil spring guide rod, I prefer the original solid one with the head truly optimized for proper slide travel, I know there was some feedback that it had slight fitment issues on some guns BUT if the gun was manufactured properly it was a nice snug fit. I have used the new style and it works fine but for me the old one worked great on everything from Springfield, Norinco, Colt etc. the old style’s outer edges lined up perfectly with the frame rails and therefore assisted in keeping the slides recoil spring tunnel hitting consistently on the recoil spring guide head, you won’t notice the benefit on this until it’s too late and you possibly end up with cracks in your dust cover, I’m aware that the issue is primarily a result of the dust cover rubbing on the underside of the slide in recoil but a off centered hit/fit on a recoil spring plug doesn’t help this either it does cause pressure and binding on the dust cover
First, damn good video. Real testing, love it. Nice to know that I paid over $1800 for a brand new thirty year old design TPR full rail a month ago. Well due to the CA roster we won't get the new TRPs anyway I'm pretty sure. I can say this thought. It seems the legacy TRPs that being produced today for CA are getting some if not most of the updated production processes. My brand new black TRP bought a month ago is tighter and more evenly finished than my 6 year old full rail and maybe even my 3 year old stainless TRP. I think the only weak link in the TRP design is the coatings used on the carbon steel guns. Armour coat sucked and I don't think Cerakote is any better. I would really love to see one in an old school blueing but I don't think that works on the MIM parts.
Good video. I would change the same things you mentioned, sights, screws, guide rod. For the price you'd think there wouldn't be MIM parts but I guess that's what you get with made in the U.S.A. for the price. Thank you.
Alot of people don't realize that about using the slide release....I didn't until I had a 10mm that wouldn't chamber sometimes using the slide stop to chamber a round but I could pull the slide back and it would
Great video, and info. MIM parts are sadly the way mass production goes nowadays. I own two TRPs purchased this year, a full size classic, and a Commander size classic. Both seem to have aluminum triggers, as plastic doesn’t give off a shine when you scrape it a little.
@SpringfieldArmoryInc - Love the config, except why isn't there an optic ready version (you KNEW people are going to give you so much crap over that, and even more importantly why isn't it offered in 9MM??) Also, @108Performance - Great video. I greatly appreciate your ability to show and explain all you do, at the level of technical detail, in a relatively brief format. Keep it up.
Not optic cutting it was crazy, Most were waiting for it and they fell short but I also hope they do a full size optic cut not a compact optic cut like the new sig 1911
Hi 10-8, great review as always. I am wonder if the fit and finish are different between the new trp and the old trp operator. Since you have both, can you give me some insight? Thanks.
I’m having a hard time deciding on the trp or operator. Which one do you think I should go with?Whichever gun I choose is going to see the range a lot.
Question: Why buy the new TRP over the new Operator? I’d love to see a comparison. If the TRP was all machined small parts it would be obvious, but all I’m seeing is the serrations on top of the slide and the front strap checkering.
I fail to see the reason for all the carrying on about the guide rod. Pull the slide back, hold it with your thumb and remove the slide release. You can then take the whole slide off the frame.
Great review, but someone at Springfield needs to put the crack pipe down. $2k for a gun loaded with MIM parts? Why not just buy a Garrison for $750.00 (and replace the same MIM parts as in the TRP) for a few hundred bucks? For the approximate cost of a TRP, you can have a Dan Wesson Valor with a better finish… and NO MIM internals.
The slide, frame, and barrel fit are far superior over the Garrison along with the checkering, but that sticker price is still ludicrous for what they're giving you. You can make a case for it around $1500 at most.
MIM = "Boo!" but... Injected polymer = "Perfection" according to some Austrian guy and his disciples. I have 4 TRPs. 3 are worthy of the logo. My 10mm is not much better, if any, than a Loaded. I have broken MIM parts but on a Kimber and Sig Sauer. I would like to have the 5" Coyote railed version.
I think the Loaded is understated. I mean realistically the only material difference between it and a TRP is front strap checkering, and maybe some of the hand fitment and finish that's put into higher tier models. But when it comes down to the raw function the Loaded has literally everything you need to place a bullet where it's wanted with no frills or extras.
Holy shit a Bobtail model and it's a TRP hell yeah. Now just got to find one. Down here in LA I still can't find the operator in 45 everyone I come across is in puny 9mm HA HA HA HA HA
It's been 4 months still waiting for the TRP OPERATOR and now they have a new one. Now I don't know what to do if I still want the one I ordered or just get the new one. what do you think I should do? LMK Thanks
How does the 2011 style compare to these 1911s. Are the staccatos worth the extra money. I have a couple loaded operators, but the 2011s have been peaking my interest. I’ve always wanted a TRP though 🤔
I fail to understand why people are opposed to mim parts. The majority of modern automotive engines now use mim rods and last for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Hilton, @10-8 Performance great content. Full lower rail ($1999) would be my choice after watching the link in the beginning. Also, in the TRP Operator video you mentioned S/N starting in NM meant more hand fitting. Is that correct?
It seems like the ceracoat is not as durable as the previous counting. I have an older trp and the finish is holding up better than the pistol in this video
@@HWG-wm8ld I can almost guarantee you an MIM GI guide rod and plug would be cheaper than that 2 piece junk they put in their guns. So you can't even say it's a $ proposition. It's a 'someone in a place to make kinda of important decisions doesn't know wtf they're doing' proposition.
@@HWG-wm8ld I would think the 2 piece guide rod would cost more money than a GI setup. The non railed guns get a Gi guide rod and $100 off. It's just a tacticool upgrade.
No. It's just f***ing annoying that Springfield Armory still installs that hack system in their pistols. The guide rod and recoil spring are among the few components that are easily swapped out with no real fitting.
I appreciate watching a 1911 review by a real 1911 shooter. Thank you for your time.
The biggest problem I've had with SA TRP's is that the Dan Wesson Valor/Specialist is a better gun and a better value for right around the same money.
Yeah but its not as popular. Did dan Wesson win the FBI contract ?
Ditto. Specialist is available under 2k and new TRPs are MSRP at 1999. Polymer trigger shoe? Like really? That said I’d buy a TRP for 1200 but no more than that.
Dan Wesson wasn’t in the evaluation for the fbi contract.
The Sig was chosen for the military, does that mean it’s better than Glock, Smith, CZ, Beretta…etc? Get a clue rube.
I love my 2 TRPs but they’re from 2011 or so. Not sure I’m in love with some of the new changes though. I have 2 1911s that are railed, but really haven’t embraced a rail on the design. Don’t know if it’s a must have, as my 1911s aren’t duty guns.
@@TheRealZJE313 This isn't that gun. This is a production line gun that gets a little hand fitting while the Professional (the gun that did win) is a full blown custom built 1911.
My favorite reviewer on RUclips. Watching your reviews is like sitting in a classroom (in the best sense). Professional, concise, thorough. A true pleasure to watch your videos. I bought my last pistol based on your review, and this is going to be the next one. Cheers!
I love the fact that you are a professional and explain in detail for anyone to understand. Very well appreciated. I’m subscribed now will continue to follow.
Great technical review! Hilton crushed the editing on this one, very detailed and packed with info.
still my duty carry...aftec extractor, fusion firearms tooless guiderod....no problems in 5 years......i carry 4 10 round mags and 4 more in my go bag......great video.....
Thank you for taking the time and effort to share this with us.
Thank you for the outstanding, thorough review. I appreciate your candor in sharing your experience.
Terrific testing protocol process. Have you heard if they will make a full rail TRP in 9 MM ?
Thanks for the great review. At this price point it is a shame to see MIM parts. Not that MIM parts are intrinsically bad, but for this price one can get a Dan Wesson that is all tool steel.
I have the full dust cover version with the 10-8 guide rod conversion. Sweet gun.
Same here, and agreed.
Fantastic content. This video may be your finest hour. Very grateful for the time you took to put this together. Your honesty in reviews is refreshing.
I've got two TRPs, and two Loaded currently. Looking forward to getting my hands on a 4 1/4". Thanks for the great review!
So happy to see these again! Just wish they came out a bit sooner. Got tired of waiting and picked up a Kimber TLE/RL II instead. Luckily that one's been chugging along just fine for the past year!
Great looking 1911 . The Dan wesson specialist still seems to be the better buy. I really like the bobtail trp though.
Yeah but did Dan Wesson win the FBI contract?
@TheRealZJE313 the trp didn't either. The springfield professional did. And the Dan wesson is all tool steel.
@@user-ye6rn7pp9h it's model after the professional line.
True but never heard a TRP have rusting hammers either 🤷🏽♂️..if I spend that amount of money, my hammer shouldn’t rust
@@RepentorPerish77 why would that happen unless you leve your weapon outside in the elements with no oil?
I’ve been wanting them to do a commander TRP forever! I hope these are as good as the original ones
They are coming out with a full rail commander size called the blackout. Theres some you tube videos out now. There single stack 1911s not the prodigy.
Thank you for such n outstanding and detailed review. I ordered my TRP yesterday.
You can be sure I will emulate your testing protocol to put my TRP through its paces and make it my carry pistol.
Thanks again Hilton. Keep the videos coming. Your experience and your disposition to teach from it are very commendable.
I will listen intently and pass it on in my classes.
Marcos
Awesome review, thanks for taking the time to put it together. It's really cool to see Springfield bring back the TRP in a modernized form and even cooler to see that the guns function properly. Sadly, I can't see myself spending what they're asking for a gun with that much MIM in it. And just to be clear to everyone who might read this, MIM in a gun is fine, MIM in a gun that costs what they're asking for these new TRPs is not.
my thoughts on all the MIM parts as well. No reason they should use any MIM parts in a gun this pricey or what it's touted to be.
Inflation is a thing. If they hadn't used MIM parts they could not have brought it to market at this price. Simple economics. It's relatively inexpensive for a non-garbage tier 1911.
@@pdbnc How’s Dan Wesson do it then? This pistol leaves a lot to be desired. More MIM than a Tisas Raider for God sake.
If Tisas can forge slides and. Frames from hardened 4140, cold hammer forge and chrome their barrels, forge all their internal small parts and offer it in a gun that cost me $279, Springfield could do better for $1900.
@@M45A1GuyEXACTLY! I picked up a DW pointman 9 and couldn’t be happier. The only thing I changed was a wider rear notch sight and the grips.
Where is the AOS cut from the prodigy??? That would be the first step to modernize this platform!
Wow. How have never found your stuff till now. This was impressive. Definitely subscribing.
I have a springfield operator in 9mm and have nearly 2500 on it with no issues besides finding the right mags. Ill be adding 10-8 sights to it and running it til something breaks. I really enjoy the single stack gun. Next up is a proper 45. I got a 9mm for cost reasons.
Man, love your vids! Just found you a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for all of your time with the content!
Do you do have any upcoming Colt vids?
I’d be curious to know if CZ improved the quality as of late.
Ive stripped so many torx screws, i hate them lol.
So a new gun for 2024 at 2k MSRP yet no optic cut? No thanks. Great video though. Very detail review.
Excellent review!! It's refreshing to see direct, to the point content.
Really great review testing and explaining your results. I am glad that SA continues to make outstanding 1911s. I do think it is time for a RDS cut on these. I have used a dovetail mount but it's really not sufficient for a hard recoiling round like the .45 on the 1911.
got into 1911s by buying sr1911 ruger commanders. most recent was a officer size ruger. had become familier enough to recognize its failure to feed was caused by a to tight extractor. after a little tweaking ( thanks to internet) its been 100 percent. now im watching people in the know to see if mim parts vs forged machine parts is worth worring about for concealed carriers who dont shoot that much.
While I would've liked something like a Les Baer, the $3000+ price point wasn't feasible for me, so this was the best option. Being in CA I had to go with that model but at least I got it before that infringement of an 11% sin tax (bad enough with sales tax).
It is nice to see the return of the bushing. Agreed on the two piece guide rod and grip screws. I wish they would have incorporated the u notch rear big dot front sights already incorporated in other pistols. I'm sorry but front strap checkering is not worth an extra $1000 and still get MIM parts.
I have a railed earlier version that i made tool less takedown, single side safety and waited to long to buy the 10-8 replacement rear sight.
PS another point of contention, my Citadel with a new bushing is more accurate than my TRP.
Also thank you for this video, with much application for your work 👍🏻🇺🇸
If you go even further back,
Springfield offered an original TRP 5” without front cocking serrations and also a 4” TRP Champion
Single sided safeties and super sexy for what they were
They also offered the “TRP Package” on customer supplied guns.
I ended up with a Springfield Hi-Cap that had the TRP package done to it (including the TRP branding on the slide)
The OG guns are super rare today.
Thanks for this Hilton! My perception is that you have upped your game by an order of magnitude in terms of our vido editing (always been excellent content). I infer that you may have spent Pi * your normal hours to produce this video, and my opinion is that from a viewer perspective is that I appreciate it. However, COMMA (thanks Uncle Pat), I'm curious if the juice was worth the squeeze for you (?).
Great review, thank you. Good to see you back on YT.
Thanks for sharing and I agree with the changes you suggested.
Good info
Love your 1911 parts and use them for my builds. Hoping you make thumb safeties and grip safeties soon. Like your overall though process when making parts
I'm glad you pointed out the 2 piece guide rod. For the life of me I can't fathom why Springfield insists on keeping that junk around. I wish they would either revert back to a GI setup, or to a solid full length guide rod and save users the trouble.
The weird thing is the non railed versions have the GI guide rod, but the railed models "need" the tacticool 2 piece upgrade for some reason.
Yes! Been waiting for one of your new vids. Love the content.
As always, excellent content and presentation. I hope to check out the new SA TRP as soon as possible.
Excellent work. Most comprehensive review I've sent.
Love how you till apart the Gunn and later the MIM parts. Which Inn guessing can be replaced... Even the GCU?
Springfield could have avoided using MIM parts.. Damn Wisdom does...
Great review. I like the looks of the "classic" commander and might have to save up my pennies for one down the road. I have had great luck with Springfield 1911s. Recently found a used (2003 production) Loaded Target that shoots really well - very accurate. It is built on the squared-dust-cover-frame, but that has not been an issue with holsters. My favorite remains the Garrison with its clean slide, good trigger and good accuracy for a decent price. Thanks again.
My favorite 10-8 part is the recoil spring guide rod, I prefer the original solid one with the head truly optimized for proper slide travel, I know there was some feedback that it had slight fitment issues on some guns BUT if the gun was manufactured properly it was a nice snug fit. I have used the new style and it works fine but for me the old one worked great on everything from Springfield, Norinco, Colt etc. the old style’s outer edges lined up perfectly with the frame rails and therefore assisted in keeping the slides recoil spring tunnel hitting consistently on the recoil spring guide head, you won’t notice the benefit on this until it’s too late and you possibly end up with cracks in your dust cover, I’m aware that the issue is primarily a result of the dust cover rubbing on the underside of the slide in recoil but a off centered hit/fit on a recoil spring plug doesn’t help this either it does cause pressure and binding on the dust cover
Love my old stainless, now rockin some 10-8 parts. A commander version would be lovely!
Good information! The TRP is my next purchase!
Great as always Hilton!!!🔥🔥🔥
As always great job on tje review. I really appreciate the testing protocol. I have a pro carry tle im gonna do some testing with
That Classic Commander size looks rad!
First, damn good video. Real testing, love it.
Nice to know that I paid over $1800 for a brand new thirty year old design TPR full rail a month ago. Well due to the CA roster we won't get the new TRPs anyway I'm pretty sure. I can say this thought. It seems the legacy TRPs that being produced today for CA are getting some if not most of the updated production processes. My brand new black TRP bought a month ago is tighter and more evenly finished than my 6 year old full rail and maybe even my 3 year old stainless TRP. I think the only weak link in the TRP design is the coatings used on the carbon steel guns. Armour coat sucked and I don't think Cerakote is any better. I would really love to see one in an old school blueing but I don't think that works on the MIM parts.
I’d love to see this compared to a current production Colt Combat Unit. If only they were making any
Fantastic review, through and detailed!
Very cool. I love your review process.
Thank you for sharing
Good video. I would change the same things you mentioned, sights, screws, guide rod. For the price you'd think there wouldn't be MIM parts but I guess that's what you get with made in the U.S.A. for the price. Thank you.
Fantastic review! Thank you.
Alot of people don't realize that about using the slide release....I didn't until I had a 10mm that wouldn't chamber sometimes using the slide stop to chamber a round but I could pull the slide back and it would
Love your videos!
Have you been able to evaluate any of the Tisas 1911’s?
Great review.Concise and no BS.I got my eye on the Coyote Brown models.That msrp is too much and it’s not even optic ready.
Great video, and info. MIM parts are sadly the way mass production goes nowadays. I own two TRPs purchased this year, a full size classic, and a Commander size classic. Both seem to have aluminum triggers, as plastic doesn’t give off a shine when you scrape it a little.
Always a solid video!
I have the Original FULL RAIL and it's the only TRUE TRP model 👌
Excellent review!
@SpringfieldArmoryInc - Love the config, except why isn't there an optic ready version (you KNEW people are going to give you so much crap over that, and even more importantly why isn't it offered in 9MM??)
Also, @108Performance - Great video. I greatly appreciate your ability to show and explain all you do, at the level of technical detail, in a relatively brief format. Keep it up.
Agreed on all of the above.
Great review.
Not optic cutting it was crazy, Most were waiting for it and they fell short but I also hope they do a full size optic cut not a compact optic cut like the new sig 1911
Awesome links!!
Looks like the new home range has a lot of potential!
Hope all is well.
This is my first 1911. I cant find a video on tips or tricks reinstalling the recoil spring. It has the allen key recoil rod.
Hi 10-8, great review as always. I am wonder if the fit and finish are different between the new trp and the old trp operator. Since you have both, can you give me some insight? Thanks.
Good stuff
I’m having a hard time deciding on the trp or operator. Which one do you think I should go with?Whichever gun I choose is going to see the range a lot.
Any opinion on the “Loaded MC Operator” line? Any appreciable difference over the TRP?
Just curious what gloves are you wearing during this video? Thanks
Question: Why buy the new TRP over the new Operator? I’d love to see a comparison. If the TRP was all machined small parts it would be obvious, but all I’m seeing is the serrations on top of the slide and the front strap checkering.
The TRP will have a much better hand fitment on the slide, frame, and barrel than the lower end 1911s or even the Prodigy have.
Suggestion: Evaluate the Platypus.
I'm hoping any updated/improved processes or hand-fitting made their way to the older CA compliant models as well.
Thank you for the info. How is your back doing, and what are you currently carrying that lighter? I cant carry 3 pounds anymore. lol
Ditch that guide rod, yesterday!
And those sights!
I fail to see the reason for all the carrying on about the guide rod. Pull the slide back, hold it with your thumb and remove the slide release. You can then take the whole slide off the frame.
The only change would be the x line trigger atlas gunworks has.
Great review, but someone at Springfield needs to put the crack pipe down. $2k for a gun loaded with MIM parts? Why not just buy a Garrison for $750.00 (and replace the same MIM parts as in the TRP) for a few hundred bucks? For the approximate cost of a TRP, you can have a Dan Wesson Valor with a better finish… and NO MIM internals.
I don’t see what’s new about it aside from cheaper finishes and grips.
The slide, frame, and barrel fit are far superior over the Garrison along with the checkering, but that sticker price is still ludicrous for what they're giving you. You can make a case for it around $1500 at most.
A lot of MIM parts for this higher end of a production 1911 🤷
Hi do u think there is a big difference between the old trp and the new one
I wish they would have gotten rid of the two piece magwell, in favor of a Stan Chen one piece magwell.
MIM = "Boo!" but...
Injected polymer = "Perfection" according to some Austrian guy and his disciples.
I have 4 TRPs. 3 are worthy of the logo. My 10mm is not much better, if any, than a Loaded.
I have broken MIM parts but on a Kimber and Sig Sauer.
I would like to have the 5" Coyote railed version.
I think the Loaded is understated. I mean realistically the only material difference between it and a TRP is front strap checkering, and maybe some of the hand fitment and finish that's put into higher tier models. But when it comes down to the raw function the Loaded has literally everything you need to place a bullet where it's wanted with no frills or extras.
Holy shit a Bobtail model and it's a TRP hell yeah. Now just got to find one. Down here in LA I still can't find the operator in 45 everyone I come across is in puny 9mm HA HA HA HA HA
It's been 4 months still waiting for the TRP OPERATOR and now they have a new one. Now I don't know what to do if I still want the one I ordered or just get the new one. what do you think I should do? LMK Thanks
Where have you been Hilton? 10-8 went dry for quite a while!
I wouldn’t spend 2K on a 1911 pistol w mostly MIM internals
Would like to see a comparison between the Operator that came out a few years ago compared to the TRP operator.
What thin tan gloves were you using
How does the 2011 style compare to these 1911s. Are the staccatos worth the extra money. I have a couple loaded operators, but the 2011s have been peaking my interest. I’ve always wanted a TRP though 🤔
I absolutely hated the 6 o clock hold iron sights on my TRP. Also the safety fell apart after about 10 minutes of using it.
The new ones?
@@user-xf3ft8kz6j no
I already own an Operator from last years production. Is this worth getting? It’s an extra 1000 for what upgrades?
Long over due.
I fail to understand why people are opposed to mim parts. The majority of modern automotive engines now use mim rods and last for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Hilton, @10-8 Performance great content.
Full lower rail ($1999) would be my choice after watching the link in the beginning. Also, in the TRP Operator video you mentioned S/N starting in NM meant more hand fitting. Is that correct?
Pretty sure it will have the same amount of hand fitting as this TRP, but still more than a normal production model.
Any idea who makes the mag well for Springfield?
I see "SA" in the MIM cast but didn't know if they actually make the part or if they out source.
It seems like the ceracoat is not as durable as the previous counting. I have an older trp and the finish is holding up better than the pistol in this video
Who at Springfield decided that 1911s should have full-length guide rods?
The same people that use mim parts. $
@@HWG-wm8ld I can almost guarantee you an MIM GI guide rod and plug would be cheaper than that 2 piece junk they put in their guns. So you can't even say it's a $ proposition. It's a 'someone in a place to make kinda of important decisions doesn't know wtf they're doing' proposition.
@@HWG-wm8ld I would think the 2 piece guide rod would cost more money than a GI setup. The non railed guns get a Gi guide rod and $100 off. It's just a tacticool upgrade.
Not a 1911 expert here. Would replacing the guide rod system require fitting of the new parts or would that be a drop in modification?
No. It's just f***ing annoying that Springfield Armory still installs that hack system in their pistols. The guide rod and recoil spring are among the few components that are easily swapped out with no real fitting.