People seem to forget what a nepo baby Cait is, sure she has seen the undercity but she has never seen death or extreme violence . One of the first being her Mother must mess with her head and I think we will see this new Caitlyn in S2. And we can hear it from the trailers how destructive she sounds, I think Vi will distance herself and Cait will think it as betrayal.
I mean, she has seen death, the death of those enforcers in the attack, just not personal death, personal loss, and not violence to the level that we’re gonna see, that’s the difference
YES!!! and someone already mentioned this but little girl in the trailer isnt Jinx...look pink paint under her eyes...its someone who Jinx probably took under her wing like Silco did to her and if Cait and Vi go after Jinx and end up killing this litte girl in the process that will send Jinx into full rage mode , thats when she truly decides to kill Caitlyn, Vi and burn Piltover to the ground ...city that took everything from her and her traitor sister( YES I just said that Ekko has even line in the game for Vi..."Hey sellout!" is now f**king with literal Piltover royalty..who is also an enforcer! Thats like the ultimate betrayal ever , I personally think that memorial should be for Sevika...she is the only person whos only loyalty is ZAUN and its people , I know how it feels like my countrey had to fight very hard for our independance , we were massacred and our culture neraly destroyed for over 50 years ....we needed to fight HARD! we needed people like Jinx and Silco and Sevika...not Vi or Vander
I like how you talk about Caitlyn no longer being a misfit and fitting in this stereotypical role of a enforcers its something I didn't really think of and its such a valid and interesting point.
Amanda Overton (arcane writer) said in an interview that those who love Vi x Caitlyn will love season 2. As amazing as that sounds, and after what you said, I’m very scared for them. If they do break up, I will literally pray for them to get back together like you said 🙏😭
let them be together but Vi is a villain in the game....I dont even really see how this can go well for them... Cait has to become a villain aswell then and I think she will or at least she will become more complicated than ever also i kinda hate Vi...:D I dont know in the game she is most dislikable cause she is cop who likes to be cop just so she can beat people up...doesnt matter if innocent or guilty :D also she betrayed her sister soo many times...on the bridge it was the worst...she saw her sister die and didnt even shed a tear...went f**king her enforcer nepo baby girlfriend afterwards :D didnt even think that " oh...is my sister alive or nah?" if Silco wouldnt have gotten her she would be dead....I have s lil sister who is psychotic...its insane to deal with it but if she tries suicide I lost my damn mind...didnt even care about my boyfriend at that moment
@@HK-gm8pe Vi's not a villain in game, she's written to be bad cop. The one cop that doesn't play by the rules, but if she gets a rework then that'll most likely change that.
Honestly, I think Caitlyn is going to leave my girl Vi. She will be so consumed by anger and the feeling of vengance to jinx that she might get upset or angry at Vi for, well, maybe having a hint of remorse for jinx cause she's still her sister or because Vi has still some mercy or smt. I don't think Vi is gonna be upset because Caitlyn becomes to be more like an enforcer, I think she will for the fact that Caitlyn CHANGED just like everyone around her has done SINCE FOREVER. It will break Vi's hearth for sure
"The Arcane community speculate there will be a parallel scene to the oil and water scene, but this time it will be Cait doing the break up" I hope to see pining Vi then. All sad and emo🤣 I'm nervous. I am excited.
I think Vi's backstory was a very deliberate choice by the writers, made not to defy her original story from game, but to challenge both themselves and the fans of League with the knowledge of that story. Because anyone who knows anything about the character knows that Vi has to end the series as an enforcer and partner to Caitlyn, so they gave her a backstory where that seemed BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, creating an immediately intriguing mystery of how in the hell she gets from point A to point B. Now the challenge is for season 2 to make that journey believable and satisfying And as far as Caitlyn's general arc goes this season, I definitely see her turning colder, but I could never see her becoming cruel. I think more likely she will try to cut herself off from her emotions and relationships to avoid further pain and focus solely on taking down Jinx and protecting the civilians of Piltover, until she reaches some sort of crossroad where she needs to make a big decision about who she wants to be. Maybe something like having to choose between protecting innocent people in the undercity and getting her revenge on Jinx? And I have faith that Cupcake will make the right choice, allowing her and Vi to reunite (Plus, there are shots of Vi and Caitlyn in the trailer in matching dark blue/black uniforms (other than Vi's not having sleeves lol), and in that uniform Vi has much longer hair, meaning they have most likely become allies again towards the end of the season)
@aranthur That going from A to B does make sense because Arcane creators absolutely love to deceive us with their trailers, and yea, the challenge does seem to be how they're going to make it believable and satisfying. Because Vi ending up as an enforcer at the end just seems so defying of Vi's whole purpose in life at this point. Even though I don't think she sought for revenge after getting out of prison(mostly because there was NO way she would be able to pull that off by that point as she doesn't have a group or anything, and her main goal is to find Powder), she still absolutely hated Pitlover. And for the Caitlyn part, that also makes sense because Caitlyn was a kind and caring person the whole of Season 1, so this sudden change may be a stretch. But, Caitlyn will lose her mother, a very important person in her life. What's even worse is that this is her first experience of her loved one dying(or at least the only one depicted in season 1.). Maybe this would be enough to enrage her?
@Perz7389 Honestly, I think any plans to get revenge on Piltover have been long forgotten by Vi. For as much as she thought she hated the people there, she hated Silco many times more. So much so that even in season 1 she was willing to work with an enforcer just for the chance to take him down. That was already step 1 of the journey. Then we had step 2 with Caitlyn and the realization that some topsiders, and even enforcers, could actually be good people who are just ignorant of the situation of the undercity and would come to her people's defense if they really understood it I think the next step in early season 2 is Vi seeing forces from Zaun brutally attack Piltover, while the enforcers are actually trying to defend helpless children and stuff. That's probably about when she agrees to join Caitlyn's team going after Jinx, to stop the violence from hurting innocent people on both sides, and she meets that little squad of enforcers from the trailer and reluctantly starts to like and befriend them. She sees the best of the Enforcers and the worst of them too, as some of the others take things too far under Ambessa's orders, and Vi becomes really torn by her hate for enforcers but now also her understanding of them?? This is probably about the time she has her falling out with Caitlyn, and Vi goes all emo and literally wears a jacket with a two headed beast on it to depict how split in half she feels. But then plot happens, and maybe she has a realization that she can do more good for both Piltover and Zaun as an enforcer, taking down threats like the Noxians, as well as corrupt nobles and businessmen who want to exploit and abuse the people of the undercity? It could even be this that Ekko is talking about when he says that line about how taking a step forward sometimes means leaving things behind or whatever, letting her know it's okay for her to do that and not feel guilty or hate herself for it
@aranthur I'm very skeptical about Vi actually being able to come to terms with Enforcers, especially seeing the fact that her enforcer design is made to make her look like she doesn't fit. Vi literally looks like she hates being where she is in that little teaser, so I feel like her enforcer arc will focus more on how she really doesn't belong, no matter how hard she tries. And I think Vi is going to have a crisis on who she is in her emo arc, becoming really confused about where she belongs and who she is really meant to be. This causes her to dye her hair black and hide her identity because she can't find herself.
And I'm pretty sure when Ekko says the dialogue, sometimes moving forward, requires leaving things behind or something, he was talking to Jinx. I saw this on Twitter, but someone saw a blue streak of hair on the side of the screen when Ekko was saying that line.
@Perz7389 I definitely agree that Vi looks uncomfortable in the enforcer uniform, and that's very intentional, but I think that'll turn out to be more of a phase than a permanent thing. She'll work as an enforcer for a couple episodes but be uncomfortable, then she'll get so disgusted she quits the enforcers for a few episodes and has her emo phase, but then later she'll grow as a person and rejoin the enforcers in the new, darker uniform she's wearing in a couple of the later shots of the trailer. And this second time is when she'll finally start to accept herself in this new role I also think it's possible Ekko is talking to both Jinx and Vi, as clues hint to them all working together to fight a greater threat near the end of the season
What do i think? We know that s2 is going to have 3 acts. We have to remember that all episodes are forced even in s1. Thay dont have time to make 25 episodes of plot twists, new characters etc. So everything happens pretty fast. Act 1 - Cait and Vi are not enemies at this point. Cait doesnt blame Vi, not at this point. She wants Vi to join enforcers and maybe its only option for Vi to make things right. At least thats what she thinks. She fight with Cait and then there is plot twist. Cait have changed. She is brutal, she is disapointed in Zaun people bcs of what happend to her mother. Vi can not accept that anger and she wants to convice Cait this is not the right path. Cait is not interested in being good cop again. She is broken. She wanted to reconcile Piltover and Zaun, she betrayed her own city just like Vi when they were working togehter. She was good, she wanted peace, and what she got? Her mother death. Cait leaves Vi, and Jinx leaves her too. Jinx cant stand that her sister is an enforcer now. Act 2 - Vi cant go back to Zaun and to Piltover. She is broken. She starts drinking, she is pitfighter. I think that maybe she and Cait had some kiss already? Bcs Cait was so happy that Vi is with her to fight Zaun? Vi is too broken for just normal „break up”. Thats how i see this. And there is Warwick/Vander. I just can not imagine him in other acts. Jinx and Vi has to fight together to take him down. Maybe he will remember them at some point? Maybe love for his daughters is stronger? Thats the point when emo Vi era end. She and Jinx works together and they are sisters know. Not as close as before, they both have changed. This relationship will never be the same. Cait wants revange and is manipulated by Ambressa (Mal’s mom). Ambressa promised Cait that she can help her with „justice”. Cait believes her, why not? She cant think normal now. She lost mother, Vi. Maybe Abressa and Cait will attack Zaun? Vi and Cait gonna meet again and Cait gets redemption arc. She sees her „love” - Vi. Now she sees how much hurt she did. She is broken again and disapointed with herself. Vi can understand that. She was just like her. She wanted revange. Now she gets her old Cupcake now. They relationship is not like it used to be. They need to put some work in this. Jinx is ofc mad like always. But MAYBE she can see herself in Cair behaviour. Madness, sadness. Who knows. Cait is devastated and Vi can see it. Act 3 - Ambressa cant no longer control Cait. She starts war between Piltover/Zaun and Noxus. We already know how brutal she is. Now Cait, Vi, Jinx, Ekko has to work together to win against Abressa. We can see this is trailer. They are not bestfriends but they have the same goal. In trailer we can see that Vi is working with Ekko, Ekko has Jinx signs on his chest, Cait has same uniform as Vi… They work together. They wont win. Noone wins. They just fight off Noxus, but it is not over. It just a beggining. Vi is an enforcer in lore game and i know that arcane and lol are a bit different. But it is whole Vi personality. She might be not bad cop as in the game. But bad cop for Noxus. She wants to protects Cait and Jinx, Vander etc. Now i see 2 options: 1. She stays with Jinx in Zaun. I kinda see that option but i dont see this eather. Vi and Jinx has changed a lot, they are not the same. They are different people, they can not live togehter as before. I dont think Zaun can accept Vi after she became enforcer and she helped Jayce in s1. I think she doesnt want to live in Zaun too just bcs it doent feel right. Sisters are togehter - but for me it is not the same. Jinx maybe finds Powder inside but she is not That Pow-pow she was before. She has some humanity. Vi can not find in Cait Cupcake again. 2. Vi is with Cait. Jinx cant leave Zaun. She is the leader and she has some people to protect there. We can see little girl that looks like her. Maybe she is a „Silco” for that little girl? Jinx and Vi are sisters - they just leave in another cities. They love eachoter but they are not the same anymore. Vi loves Cait and she want to be with her since they were together in their lowest. Cait could pull good from her and she did same thing for Cait. Vi fits to Piltover. It is better place for her to protect people. To protect Zaun. To protect Cait. Riot said that this season is about forgivness and war. Ending will be bittersweet for sure. There is no happy ending. I feel like happy ending will be when Vi, Cait, Ekko, Zaun, Piltover leave togheter in happy home with poro. We wont get peace between Zaun and Noxus, everyone cant end together. Someone has to be left behind - Jinx or Cait. It would be very disapointing if Vi and Cait wont be endgame. They are icon lesbian couple in game. It would be very supportive for lgbt community to keep them together since there is not a lot of gay couple with happy ending. They had so much chemistry togethter, well written relations. It would be very disapointing to just pass. Few days ago arcane leaked 50 sec of new song for arcane. It is made by queer, lesbian artist. Lyrics: Am im thinking of you/well, im up here higher than God/feeling strange about the way we left things in the back of the car/You believe that im in pain/have me disassociate/i just wanna be a good passenger/Feeling fantastic, F*cking fantastic/i wanna get drunk and watch american classics/drink champagne out of the plastic/Dont you want someone crazy like me, babe? If it is not for boombayah scene for CaitVi idk what is this. They already traumatized us by fruity scane between Mel and Jayce. Riot it is time for payback!!! I think they will end up togehter. I really dont see Jinx and Vi living together after all this years.
Since Piltover is militarizing especially with the help of Noxus, I think that just means that Cait will become more ruthless following her mother's death and that will push away Vi.
I wouldn't say betrayal, but there is no way that Vi would let Caitlin kill her sister, not matter if she is Jinx or not, and I think that would happen in the first arc, in the last moment when Jinx and Vi are fighting, Caitlin would try to kill Jinx, but Vi would save her, Caitlin would see that as a "betrayal" by letting Jinx escape, so they part ways, Caitlin become even more authoritarian meanwhile Vi go to exile in Zaun.
what makes this show so interesting is that morally, caitlyn is correct. vi and jinx may be our protagonists, but these two are basically terrorist, and terrorist apologist. in the tea party scene, the only person to take action against jinx is caitlyn and the only reason she didn’t light her up is because vi was basically pleading for cait to not hurt her. but vi not allowing anyone to go against jinx or criticize her is ultimately the biggest flaw jinx has. powder is sensitive, mylo’s sayings affect her even to adulthood and mylo was correct. it was unfair of vi to allow powder to mess up all the time as mylo implied and not get any consequences, or even mylo not being allowed to express his frustration without basically everyone hating him. caitlyn goes through the same issue when it comes to jinx. the product of this? jinx has killed hundreds of pilties and zaunites alike, bombed the government, kidnapped three people and stalked half the shows cast and halfway through became the adoptive daughter of the VILLAIN of the show. caitlyn has every right to fight jinx, and vi is ultimately wrong for letting her feelings get in the way of justice but this could arguably be her most endearing quality. she continues to love and defend everyone she loves even if they are unlovable to others. even more impressive, a lot of people find themselves on team vi and jinx, even if cait and both of them have been there since the very beginning
Yeah, my initial idea was confirmed in the third teaser Nothing to Lose, when Vi is angry of Caitlin, and how Noxus now is growing in power in Piltover and Zaun, and Caitlin is just letting go because her personal vendetta against Jinx, but this would turn again in the last arc, because the factions would shift again, Piltover would turn on Noxus the last minutes, but no before Jinx trying something big, like try blow up Piltover to the ground, maybe using one of the Hex gates.
I'll be honest, what you saying is very likely to happen. For me, it would be strange if Cait and Vi didn't have a conflict in season 2. Cait wants revenge on Jinx, Vi is torn with herself because for many years of her life she only thought about her sister Powder. (something that many people forget about). It doesn't help that Jinx will very likely be the leader of the resistance group to free Zaun (whether she wants it or not). Vi will probably end up not wanting to have any contact with Caitlyn or Jinx for a moment (her emo arc) so that she can think what she wants and which side she will be on.
i think SOME this theory could be possible. Arcane is canon to the LOL universe, its been confirmed. Vi and Caitlyn are lovers and far into their relationship by the time LOL occurs. so i don't think their breakup will be permanent (if it does happen). the rest of this theory i doubt.
Cait is certainly going down a dark path based on her desire to hurt Jinx. “I want to tear that laugh from her throat forever” That doesn’t sound like someone who wants to involve due process. She’s going for execution by her own hands.
I certainly think there will be a rift between them for a while, but since this is the last season of their story. I honesty have a strong feeling regardless of whatever they fight about, that they will end up together at the end.
Well they are like Romeo and Juliet, I don't think they are going to get really involved in the political conflict between Piltovero and Zaun, I think both will more preoccupied with saving people. I just hope that they don't end up drinking poison together.
Yeah my theory is Vi and Cait aren't going to end up together by the end of the series. And yeah it will be because of jinx and at the end of the day Vi is always going to choose Jinx (and I desperately need to see them make amends). And I don't see cait wanting anything to do with jinx ever again. So i realistically don't see that working out.
NO SHE WILL NOT!!!! You dont get Vis character at all...she has betrayed her sister already ...I mentioned this already but she saw her sister die and she didnt even cry...went to f**k her enforcer royalty girlfriend...didnt even think about if Jinx is alive or dead :D they are mortal enemies in the game, Vi and Cait work together in the game tho and love eachother , she will always choose topside and Cait over Zaun and Jinx , Ekko even has good luine in the game " Hey sellout! You forgot your roots Vi!" Warvick " Zaun needed you!!!"
thats the whole problem in the series Vi keeps choosing Cailtyn and keeps getting heavily punished by the plot for it. Vi has identity crisis when Vi finally realizes she chose the pitie goon over her sister.
@@HK-gm8pe Well, saw some of your comments and thought it’d be fun to discuss, even though I’m coming from a different perspective. Just to clarify, Cait’s my favorite character (then Ekko), and honestly, I mainly support Vi because I ship CaitVi. About Vi’s ‘betrayal,’ I think it’s best looked at from two angles: personal (toward Jinx) and community (toward Zaun). I’m basing this just on S1 and the S2 trailer, not including the game. Personal - I don’t think Vi betrayed Jinx. She never chose to leave her-they were forced apart, and Vi tried hard to reunite. Her care for Jinx is real, but Jinx never gave her a chance to explain. When Vi ‘chose’ Cait, it was because Jinx was attacking her. If Cait had attacked a defenseless Jinx, Vi would’ve protected Jinx, too. This isn’t just her ‘choosing romance over family’-Vi’s just trying to balance both sides, both people she thinks are too important to be enemies.
@@HK-gm8pe Community - Vi didn’t betray Zaun either. She’s taking a middle path, finding common ground with Cait without fully siding with Piltover. When Cait becomes more brutal (as hinted in the trailer), they separate (hence Vi’s goth phase), which shows Vi isn’t blindly following anyone-it’s just that Cait’s approach aligns more with her beliefs. As for what their environment demands, Jinx is more about chaos than real revolution (at least in S1). Sure, she might later become a symbol, but early on, her actions are just violent, and personally, I don’t agree with her approach. Vi’s way, more like Ekko’s, aims toward peace.
Being serious and realistic, and with all due respect, I have a strong and hard feeling that Vi and Caitlyn are not going to end up together and everything will have been for nothing, which indicates that all my expectations and my HYPE have been of no use and everything is in vain 😞😞😞☹️☹️☹️😢😢😢😡😡😡
They aren’t built for destruction vi is literally a brand marker for police brutality and cait lets it happen cause she’s a simp lol 😂 people keep thinking cait and vi going break up I mean even if they do they’ll still end together cause the game hints so much at them being a couple and what couple doesn’t have problems also vi will end up as enforcer whether we like it or not so if she ends up as an enforcer that means they made up in some way
Well, you never know if they may change the lore. I know the lore of League of Legends, and I know that these two are canon. But, just because there is a set lore from League of Legends doesn't mean everything will go in the path of that lore. Many things have been changed for this story and the story only. Arcane could definitely change some things so that the story flows more smoothly. I am aware that Riot Games said that everything League of Legends related is canonical, and so it would make more sense if CaitVi were endgame, but just because it's the original lore doesn't mean this story has to follow it.
one think i noticed no one takes in consideration, is the fact that the status quos of the game, are just one part of the character's lives, what i'm saying is, maybe the "endgame" canon caitvi we see in the game, it's the one we see by the start of season 2 before the emo vi arc, it's just that moment, enforcer vi, working with her girlfriend caitlyn (the archetypes we see in the game)
@@crisssstopher it is very interesting theory. But riot said that this is just the beggining of runterra's world. Thats might mean that this cant be that far from leauge lore. I think that plot twist is how Vi sees being an enforcer. First she is missfit, but then she can see that she fits there? Ofc ur tehory is interesting and quite good, but they will have to change whole lore in the future
People seem to forget what a nepo baby Cait is, sure she has seen the undercity but she has never seen death or extreme violence . One of the first being her Mother must mess with her head and I think we will see this new Caitlyn in S2. And we can hear it from the trailers how destructive she sounds, I think Vi will distance herself and Cait will think it as betrayal.
I mean, she has seen death, the death of those enforcers in the attack, just not personal death, personal loss, and not violence to the level that we’re gonna see, that’s the difference
YES!!! and someone already mentioned this but little girl in the trailer isnt Jinx...look pink paint under her eyes...its someone who Jinx probably took under her wing like Silco did to her and if Cait and Vi go after Jinx and end up killing this litte girl in the process that will send Jinx into full rage mode , thats when she truly decides to kill Caitlyn, Vi and burn Piltover to the ground ...city that took everything from her and her traitor sister( YES I just said that Ekko has even line in the game for Vi..."Hey sellout!" is now f**king with literal Piltover royalty..who is also an enforcer! Thats like the ultimate betrayal ever , I personally think that memorial should be for Sevika...she is the only person whos only loyalty is ZAUN and its people , I know how it feels like my countrey had to fight very hard for our independance , we were massacred and our culture neraly destroyed for over 50 years ....we needed to fight HARD! we needed people like Jinx and Silco and Sevika...not Vi or Vander
I like how you talk about Caitlyn no longer being a misfit and fitting in this stereotypical role of a enforcers its something I didn't really think of and its such a valid and interesting point.
Amanda Overton (arcane writer) said in an interview that those who love Vi x Caitlyn will love season 2. As amazing as that sounds, and after what you said, I’m very scared for them. If they do break up, I will literally pray for them to get back together like you said 🙏😭
She said there's something that shippers will love and something they will hate... That makes this outcome more plausible unfortunately.
@@Garage-CattoYeah, but still. I want them to have their happy ending together.
let them be together but Vi is a villain in the game....I dont even really see how this can go well for them... Cait has to become a villain aswell then and I think she will or at least she will become more complicated than ever also i kinda hate Vi...:D I dont know in the game she is most dislikable cause she is cop who likes to be cop just so she can beat people up...doesnt matter if innocent or guilty :D also she betrayed her sister soo many times...on the bridge it was the worst...she saw her sister die and didnt even shed a tear...went f**king her enforcer nepo baby girlfriend afterwards :D didnt even think that " oh...is my sister alive or nah?" if Silco wouldnt have gotten her she would be dead....I have s lil sister who is psychotic...its insane to deal with it but if she tries suicide I lost my damn mind...didnt even care about my boyfriend at that moment
@@HK-gm8pe Vi's not a villain in game, she's written to be bad cop. The one cop that doesn't play by the rules, but if she gets a rework then that'll most likely change that.
Honestly, I think Caitlyn is going to leave my girl Vi. She will be so consumed by anger and the feeling of vengance to jinx that she might get upset or angry at Vi for, well, maybe having a hint of remorse for jinx cause she's still her sister or because Vi has still some mercy or smt. I don't think Vi is gonna be upset because Caitlyn becomes to be more like an enforcer, I think she will for the fact that Caitlyn CHANGED just like everyone around her has done SINCE FOREVER. It will break Vi's hearth for sure
You are not invited to my arcane themed birthday party
Nooo, this is just a theory 😭
Can I come!!?
Nah blud can I come????
"The Arcane community speculate there will be a parallel scene to the oil and water scene, but this time it will be Cait doing the break up"
I hope to see pining Vi then. All sad and emo🤣
I'm nervous. I am excited.
I think Vi's backstory was a very deliberate choice by the writers, made not to defy her original story from game, but to challenge both themselves and the fans of League with the knowledge of that story. Because anyone who knows anything about the character knows that Vi has to end the series as an enforcer and partner to Caitlyn, so they gave her a backstory where that seemed BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, creating an immediately intriguing mystery of how in the hell she gets from point A to point B. Now the challenge is for season 2 to make that journey believable and satisfying
And as far as Caitlyn's general arc goes this season, I definitely see her turning colder, but I could never see her becoming cruel. I think more likely she will try to cut herself off from her emotions and relationships to avoid further pain and focus solely on taking down Jinx and protecting the civilians of Piltover, until she reaches some sort of crossroad where she needs to make a big decision about who she wants to be. Maybe something like having to choose between protecting innocent people in the undercity and getting her revenge on Jinx? And I have faith that Cupcake will make the right choice, allowing her and Vi to reunite
(Plus, there are shots of Vi and Caitlyn in the trailer in matching dark blue/black uniforms (other than Vi's not having sleeves lol), and in that uniform Vi has much longer hair, meaning they have most likely become allies again towards the end of the season)
@aranthur That going from A to B does make sense because Arcane creators absolutely love to deceive us with their trailers, and yea, the challenge does seem to be how they're going to make it believable and satisfying. Because Vi ending up as an enforcer at the end just seems so defying of Vi's whole purpose in life at this point. Even though I don't think she sought for revenge after getting out of prison(mostly because there was NO way she would be able to pull that off by that point as she doesn't have a group or anything, and her main goal is to find Powder), she still absolutely hated Pitlover.
And for the Caitlyn part, that also makes sense because Caitlyn was a kind and caring person the whole of Season 1, so this sudden change may be a stretch. But, Caitlyn will lose her mother, a very important person in her life. What's even worse is that this is her first experience of her loved one dying(or at least the only one depicted in season 1.). Maybe this would be enough to enrage her?
@Perz7389 Honestly, I think any plans to get revenge on Piltover have been long forgotten by Vi. For as much as she thought she hated the people there, she hated Silco many times more. So much so that even in season 1 she was willing to work with an enforcer just for the chance to take him down. That was already step 1 of the journey. Then we had step 2 with Caitlyn and the realization that some topsiders, and even enforcers, could actually be good people who are just ignorant of the situation of the undercity and would come to her people's defense if they really understood it
I think the next step in early season 2 is Vi seeing forces from Zaun brutally attack Piltover, while the enforcers are actually trying to defend helpless children and stuff. That's probably about when she agrees to join Caitlyn's team going after Jinx, to stop the violence from hurting innocent people on both sides, and she meets that little squad of enforcers from the trailer and reluctantly starts to like and befriend them. She sees the best of the Enforcers and the worst of them too, as some of the others take things too far under Ambessa's orders, and Vi becomes really torn by her hate for enforcers but now also her understanding of them??
This is probably about the time she has her falling out with Caitlyn, and Vi goes all emo and literally wears a jacket with a two headed beast on it to depict how split in half she feels. But then plot happens, and maybe she has a realization that she can do more good for both Piltover and Zaun as an enforcer, taking down threats like the Noxians, as well as corrupt nobles and businessmen who want to exploit and abuse the people of the undercity? It could even be this that Ekko is talking about when he says that line about how taking a step forward sometimes means leaving things behind or whatever, letting her know it's okay for her to do that and not feel guilty or hate herself for it
@aranthur I'm very skeptical about Vi actually being able to come to terms with Enforcers, especially seeing the fact that her enforcer design is made to make her look like she doesn't fit. Vi literally looks like she hates being where she is in that little teaser, so I feel like her enforcer arc will focus more on how she really doesn't belong, no matter how hard she tries.
And I think Vi is going to have a crisis on who she is in her emo arc, becoming really confused about where she belongs and who she is really meant to be. This causes her to dye her hair black and hide her identity because she can't find herself.
And I'm pretty sure when Ekko says the dialogue, sometimes moving forward, requires leaving things behind or something, he was talking to Jinx. I saw this on Twitter, but someone saw a blue streak of hair on the side of the screen when Ekko was saying that line.
@Perz7389 I definitely agree that Vi looks uncomfortable in the enforcer uniform, and that's very intentional, but I think that'll turn out to be more of a phase than a permanent thing. She'll work as an enforcer for a couple episodes but be uncomfortable, then she'll get so disgusted she quits the enforcers for a few episodes and has her emo phase, but then later she'll grow as a person and rejoin the enforcers in the new, darker uniform she's wearing in a couple of the later shots of the trailer. And this second time is when she'll finally start to accept herself in this new role
I also think it's possible Ekko is talking to both Jinx and Vi, as clues hint to them all working together to fight a greater threat near the end of the season
What do i think?
We know that s2 is going to have 3 acts. We have to remember that all episodes are forced even in s1. Thay dont have time to make 25 episodes of plot twists, new characters etc. So everything happens pretty fast.
Act 1 - Cait and Vi are not enemies at this point. Cait doesnt blame Vi, not at this point. She wants Vi to join enforcers and maybe its only option for Vi to make things right. At least thats what she thinks. She fight with Cait and then there is plot twist. Cait have changed. She is brutal, she is disapointed in Zaun people bcs of what happend to her mother. Vi can not accept that anger and she wants to convice Cait this is not the right path. Cait is not interested in being good cop again. She is broken. She wanted to reconcile Piltover and Zaun, she betrayed her own city just like Vi when they were working togehter. She was good, she wanted peace, and what she got? Her mother death. Cait leaves Vi, and Jinx leaves her too. Jinx cant stand that her sister is an enforcer now.
Act 2 - Vi cant go back to Zaun and to Piltover. She is broken. She starts drinking, she is pitfighter. I think that maybe she and Cait had some kiss already? Bcs Cait was so happy that Vi is with her to fight Zaun? Vi is too broken for just normal „break up”. Thats how i see this.
And there is Warwick/Vander. I just can not imagine him in other acts. Jinx and Vi has to fight together to take him down. Maybe he will remember them at some point? Maybe love for his daughters is stronger? Thats the point when emo Vi era end. She and Jinx works together and they are sisters know. Not as close as before, they both have changed. This relationship will never be the same.
Cait wants revange and is manipulated by Ambressa (Mal’s mom). Ambressa promised Cait that she can help her with „justice”. Cait believes her, why not? She cant think normal now. She lost mother, Vi.
Maybe Abressa and Cait will attack Zaun? Vi and Cait gonna meet again and Cait gets redemption arc. She sees her „love” - Vi. Now she sees how much hurt she did. She is broken again and disapointed with herself. Vi can understand that. She was just like her. She wanted revange. Now she gets her old Cupcake now. They relationship is not like it used to be. They need to put some work in this. Jinx is ofc mad like always. But MAYBE she can see herself in Cair behaviour. Madness, sadness. Who knows. Cait is devastated and Vi can see it.
Act 3 - Ambressa cant no longer control Cait. She starts war between Piltover/Zaun and Noxus. We already know how brutal she is. Now Cait, Vi, Jinx, Ekko has to work together to win against Abressa. We can see this is trailer. They are not bestfriends but they have the same goal. In trailer we can see that Vi is working with Ekko, Ekko has Jinx signs on his chest, Cait has same uniform as Vi… They work together. They wont win. Noone wins. They just fight off Noxus, but it is not over. It just a beggining.
Vi is an enforcer in lore game and i know that arcane and lol are a bit different. But it is whole Vi personality. She might be not bad cop as in the game. But bad cop for Noxus. She wants to protects Cait and Jinx, Vander etc.
Now i see 2 options:
1. She stays with Jinx in Zaun. I kinda see that option but i dont see this eather. Vi and Jinx has changed a lot, they are not the same. They are different people, they can not live togehter as before. I dont think Zaun can accept Vi after she became enforcer and she helped Jayce in s1. I think she doesnt want to live in Zaun too just bcs it doent feel right. Sisters are togehter - but for me it is not the same. Jinx maybe finds Powder inside but she is not That Pow-pow she was before. She has some humanity. Vi can not find in Cait Cupcake again.
2. Vi is with Cait. Jinx cant leave Zaun. She is the leader and she has some people to protect there. We can see little girl that looks like her. Maybe she is a „Silco” for that little girl? Jinx and Vi are sisters - they just leave in another cities. They love eachoter but they are not the same anymore. Vi loves Cait and she want to be with her since they were together in their lowest. Cait could pull good from her and she did same thing for Cait. Vi fits to Piltover. It is better place for her to protect people. To protect Zaun. To protect Cait.
Riot said that this season is about forgivness and war. Ending will be bittersweet for sure. There is no happy ending. I feel like happy ending will be when Vi, Cait, Ekko, Zaun, Piltover leave togheter in happy home with poro. We wont get peace between Zaun and Noxus, everyone cant end together. Someone has to be left behind - Jinx or Cait.
It would be very disapointing if Vi and Cait wont be endgame. They are icon lesbian couple in game. It would be very supportive for lgbt community to keep them together since there is not a lot of gay couple with happy ending. They had so much chemistry togethter, well written relations. It would be very disapointing to just pass.
Few days ago arcane leaked 50 sec of new song for arcane. It is made by queer, lesbian artist. Lyrics: Am im thinking of you/well, im up here higher than God/feeling strange about the way we left things in the back of the car/You believe that im in pain/have me disassociate/i just wanna be a good passenger/Feeling fantastic, F*cking fantastic/i wanna get drunk and watch american classics/drink champagne out of the plastic/Dont you want someone crazy like me, babe?
If it is not for boombayah scene for CaitVi idk what is this. They already traumatized us by fruity scane between Mel and Jayce.
Riot it is time for payback!!!
I think they will end up togehter. I really dont see Jinx and Vi living together after all this years.
So basically what you are saying is that I will cry and scream a lot 😭
@@goodmood.instru most likely 😭 😭
Since Piltover is militarizing especially with the help of Noxus, I think that just means that Cait will become more ruthless following her mother's death and that will push away Vi.
I wouldn't say betrayal, but there is no way that Vi would let Caitlin kill her sister, not matter if she is Jinx or not, and I think that would happen in the first arc, in the last moment when Jinx and Vi are fighting, Caitlin would try to kill Jinx, but Vi would save her, Caitlin would see that as a "betrayal" by letting Jinx escape, so they part ways, Caitlin become even more authoritarian meanwhile Vi go to exile in Zaun.
watched the spoilers and is trying to act like he big brained like seriously dude?
what makes this show so interesting is that morally, caitlyn is correct. vi and jinx may be our protagonists, but these two are basically terrorist, and terrorist apologist. in the tea party scene, the only person to take action against jinx is caitlyn and the only reason she didn’t light her up is because vi was basically pleading for cait to not hurt her. but vi not allowing anyone to go against jinx or criticize her is ultimately the biggest flaw jinx has. powder is sensitive, mylo’s sayings affect her even to adulthood and mylo was correct. it was unfair of vi to allow powder to mess up all the time as mylo implied and not get any consequences, or even mylo not being allowed to express his frustration without basically everyone hating him. caitlyn goes through the same issue when it comes to jinx. the product of this? jinx has killed hundreds of pilties and zaunites alike, bombed the government, kidnapped three people and stalked half the shows cast and halfway through became the adoptive daughter of the VILLAIN of the show. caitlyn has every right to fight jinx, and vi is ultimately wrong for letting her feelings get in the way of justice but this could arguably be her most endearing quality. she continues to love and defend everyone she loves even if they are unlovable to others. even more impressive, a lot of people find themselves on team vi and jinx, even if cait and both of them have been there since the very beginning
Yeah, my initial idea was confirmed in the third teaser Nothing to Lose, when Vi is angry of Caitlin, and how Noxus now is growing in power in Piltover and Zaun, and Caitlin is just letting go because her personal vendetta against Jinx, but this would turn again in the last arc, because the factions would shift again, Piltover would turn on Noxus the last minutes, but no before Jinx trying something big, like try blow up Piltover to the ground, maybe using one of the Hex gates.
I'll be honest, what you saying is very likely to happen. For me, it would be strange if Cait and Vi didn't have a conflict in season 2. Cait wants revenge on Jinx, Vi is torn with herself because for many years of her life she only thought about her sister Powder. (something that many people forget about). It doesn't help that Jinx will very likely be the leader of the resistance group to free Zaun (whether she wants it or not). Vi will probably end up not wanting to have any contact with Caitlyn or Jinx for a moment (her emo arc) so that she can think what she wants and which side she will be on.
i think SOME this theory could be possible. Arcane is canon to the LOL universe, its been confirmed. Vi and Caitlyn are lovers and far into their relationship by the time LOL occurs. so i don't think their breakup will be permanent (if it does happen). the rest of this theory i doubt.
Cait is certainly going down a dark path based on her desire to hurt Jinx.
“I want to tear that laugh from her throat forever”
That doesn’t sound like someone who wants to involve due process. She’s going for execution by her own hands.
I certainly think there will be a rift between them for a while, but since this is the last season of their story. I honesty have a strong feeling regardless of whatever they fight about, that they will end up together at the end.
Bruh I will cry even more then I guess.
Karma really was a bitch, eh?
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I think I'm the only person who welcomes the unraveling of this pair's relationship.
true. 😢
This is a great theory, I’m thinking the same way!
We in for a ride
Well they are like Romeo and Juliet, I don't think they are going to get really involved in the political conflict between Piltovero and Zaun, I think both will more preoccupied with saving people. I just hope that they don't end up drinking poison together.
Yeah my theory is Vi and Cait aren't going to end up together by the end of the series. And yeah it will be because of jinx and at the end of the day Vi is always going to choose Jinx (and I desperately need to see them make amends). And I don't see cait wanting anything to do with jinx ever again. So i realistically don't see that working out.
NO SHE WILL NOT!!!! You dont get Vis character at all...she has betrayed her sister already ...I mentioned this already but she saw her sister die and she didnt even cry...went to f**k her enforcer royalty girlfriend...didnt even think about if Jinx is alive or dead :D they are mortal enemies in the game, Vi and Cait work together in the game tho and love eachother , she will always choose topside and Cait over Zaun and Jinx , Ekko even has good luine in the game " Hey sellout! You forgot your roots Vi!" Warvick " Zaun needed you!!!"
thats the whole problem in the series Vi keeps choosing Cailtyn and keeps getting heavily punished by the plot for it. Vi has identity crisis when Vi finally realizes she chose the pitie goon over her sister.
They won't make amends, but I do see them going their separate ways.
@@HK-gm8pe Well, saw some of your comments and thought it’d be fun to discuss, even though I’m coming from a different perspective. Just to clarify, Cait’s my favorite character (then Ekko), and honestly, I mainly support Vi because I ship CaitVi.
About Vi’s ‘betrayal,’ I think it’s best looked at from two angles: personal (toward Jinx) and community (toward Zaun). I’m basing this just on S1 and the S2 trailer, not including the game.
Personal - I don’t think Vi betrayed Jinx. She never chose to leave her-they were forced apart, and Vi tried hard to reunite. Her care for Jinx is real, but Jinx never gave her a chance to explain. When Vi ‘chose’ Cait, it was because Jinx was attacking her. If Cait had attacked a defenseless Jinx, Vi would’ve protected Jinx, too. This isn’t just her ‘choosing romance over family’-Vi’s just trying to balance both sides, both people she thinks are too important to be enemies.
@@HK-gm8pe Community - Vi didn’t betray Zaun either. She’s taking a middle path, finding common ground with Cait without fully siding with Piltover. When Cait becomes more brutal (as hinted in the trailer), they separate (hence Vi’s goth phase), which shows Vi isn’t blindly following anyone-it’s just that Cait’s approach aligns more with her beliefs.
As for what their environment demands, Jinx is more about chaos than real revolution (at least in S1). Sure, she might later become a symbol, but early on, her actions are just violent, and personally, I don’t agree with her approach. Vi’s way, more like Ekko’s, aims toward peace.
Being serious and realistic, and with all due respect, I have a strong and hard feeling that Vi and Caitlyn are not going to end up together and everything will have been for nothing, which indicates that all my expectations and my HYPE have been of no use and everything is in vain 😞😞😞☹️☹️☹️😢😢😢😡😡😡
I don't think that, I think they'll work together at the end and slowly mend their broken relationship after the series end.
Haha....IndiCAITe.
They aren’t built for destruction vi is literally a brand marker for police brutality and cait lets it happen cause she’s a simp lol 😂 people keep thinking cait and vi going break up I mean even if they do they’ll still end together cause the game hints so much at them being a couple and what couple doesn’t have problems also vi will end up as enforcer whether we like it or not so if she ends up as an enforcer that means they made up in some way
I hate when people make these theory videos abd don’t know the or bother to look up the lore for the game.
Well, you never know if they may change the lore. I know the lore of League of Legends, and I know that these two are canon. But, just because there is a set lore from League of Legends doesn't mean everything will go in the path of that lore. Many things have been changed for this story and the story only. Arcane could definitely change some things so that the story flows more smoothly. I am aware that Riot Games said that everything League of Legends related is canonical, and so it would make more sense if CaitVi were endgame, but just because it's the original lore doesn't mean this story has to follow it.
Bro did you even watch the series 😭😭
one think i noticed no one takes in consideration, is the fact that the status quos of the game, are just one part of the character's lives, what i'm saying is, maybe the "endgame" canon caitvi we see in the game, it's the one we see by the start of season 2 before the emo vi arc, it's just that moment, enforcer vi, working with her girlfriend caitlyn (the archetypes we see in the game)
@@crisssstopher it is very interesting theory. But riot said that this is just the beggining of runterra's world. Thats might mean that this cant be that far from leauge lore. I think that plot twist is how Vi sees being an enforcer. First she is missfit, but then she can see that she fits there?
Ofc ur tehory is interesting and quite good, but they will have to change whole lore in the future
VI and Jinx aren't sisters in the games lore.
There NOT Even A Couple And I Hope They KEEP IT That Way Ewww 😂
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