I’m surprised how good that exhausted sounds! Looks funny sticking out with that massive tip but I guess you can’t complain for the price. Problems with the cheap header will show up once you get it hot on the track and the welds start cracking. Definitely not speaking from personal experience...
For a track only car you will probably be fine with the raceland. I have heard they can have issues with cracking when wrapped in heat shielding. You may want to install some Cool Mat on the driver's footwell area to keep from cooking your accelerator foot, since it's sure to be buried into the carpet the entire time you are on track! Car is looking the part for sure! Uncorking the intake side might get you a couple of HP now that you have done the exhaust, but there isn't too much meat on the bone unless you go to a standalone ECU. My 99 is dyno tuned to 140 whp, and it feels pretty good at that level. BP5A intake cam will add power up top, as well as an EUDM squaretop manifold. But, that may be upgrading beyond your intent with this car. Looking forward to seeing if this can hang with the abondoned STi around the track ;)
Safety first guys, that engine twitch scared me. And good idea on disconnecting both engine mounts, because jacking the engine on the hoist could've accidentally tipped it off the hoist
you will definitely pick up some power...through the whole rev range. that manifold you took off is awful and known to rob power compared to most other NA/NB miatas with a header from the factory.
Love this series, love you guys, keen to see some RUclipsrs out racing around! Definitely would like to see a Big Ben vs Little Ben from Gears and Gasoline
Cappuccino windshield washer Reservoir fits in the cowl. It's a popular upgrade to clean up the engine bay. And I think the biggest concern on those cheap 4-2-1 headers is where the mergers are. The welds crack & the inside isn't clean.
Some people get a CEL from blocking the EGR, some don't. Interested to see how the Raceland header holds up. Lots of reports of the welds breaking under track use. Hard to beat that price, though!
I have that exhaust on my NB and overall love it. One thing to note is that over time the baffling in the resonator came loose and made a horrible rattling, so I welded a straight pipe in its place. Also expect the raceland header to contact the transmission tunnel under load. I eventually gave up and put a racing beat header in its place. Surprised it’s not that loud cause mine is ear bleeding under load!
Might want to look at getting Mazda Competition Engine mounts, as the stock mounts flex way too much. When cornering hard and needing to shift to third, the engine will shift to the point where the shift forks won’t line up and it will NOT go into gear at least 50% of the time. ASR makes some really nice mounts that are more streetable if you get the lower durometer ones, but the Mazda completion mounts are more of a budget option
my favorite miata exhaust. exact system im running on mine. the stock manifold heatshield was making all sorts of noise so im ashamed to say I went with the raceland header as well and it has really held up (longer than my racing beat I had on my old 1.6)
Here is your egr fix: " keep the EGR valve electrical connection connected, but block off the ports and switch the vacuum connection feeding the boost sensor from the middle of the intake manifold to the vacuum nipple just behind the throttle body." SN
Literally my exact exhaust header combo. Header slides in without lifting motor if you unbolt the 4 bolts holding in the steering rack and slide it to the right.
I have a 2001. How's the highway drive with it? (The sound/drone) and is it throwing a code or did the thing they send fix it so it wont throw one? Thanks for any info very Intrested in the exhaust.. I need to change my cat so this would take care of both..
@@skipper425 sure did and it has a slight drone between 2800-3800rpm. It is not a quiet exhaust but it sounds great :) oh and no code it works just fine.
@@chadb.6165 Awesome! How loud is loud. Anything I could compare it to? I love cars and being able to put my foot down under bridges sounds like good fun. With some pops and bangs. It's not headache loud is it?
@@chadb.6165 Awesome! How loud is loud. Anything I could compare it to? I love cars and being able to put my foot down under bridges sounds like good fun. With some pops and bangs. It's not headache loud is it?
Mine is on the passenger side as well. I have a canadian spec NA. I found on a forum somewhere it could have something to do with whether your car has AC mine does not.
@@tmo2798 weird, I have a 99 NB, mica green as well but I have the tan Top and my coolant reservoir is on the left side. Currently ordering a blacktop since it looks better haha. I also have AC
Good series! You should talk to Greg at TheCarPassionChannel, Caleb at Gingium, and Taylor Ray. They're all Miata guys at (I think) varying levels of skill.
from what ive seen, a lot of ebay headers are copies of currently made units just with cheaper materials, so assuming there isn't a giant booger of a weld blocking flow, they should perform just as well, they just wont last as long
If you guys want a washer fluid bottle work around: A lot of guys get the Suzuki Cappuccino fluid bottle which can fit behind the fire wall, plenty of info if you google "miata cappuccino bottle" you can find them for ~$30 CAD
Yeaaaah. My raceland header was a pain to install too. I just undid the driver side mount. Removing the rocker will also give a bit more wiggle room. Cover your hoses and wires near it or you'll burn through them.
the EGR usually comes into play when cruising a long time and in close loop. that's when a check engine light will come on. that exhaust does sound good tho
I have a raceland header on my 1999 NB and had the same problems installing. But got it in and it looked great. Got a good deal on it since it was a second hand one too. It really made a big difference on the car torque wise and I believe a bit on the top end. It's definitley feels and sounds so much better with a full exhaust as well. I have a 2.5 catback on mine with the factory cat still on. You will get an EGR cel code for for the egr being blocked but you may get lucky and have the light come and go. mine has come and gone a few times. its pretty weird.
I did a write up on the header install. All you had to do was loose the motor mounts, use a Cherry picker to lift the motor up, and the header would slide right in! But what do i know? .....
I figured that stock exhaust wasn't going to last from the time I saw the "fix" on it before. I wasn't expecting anything quite so aggressive looking, though. It sounds quite a bit like my Fit, but a little louder.
Most exhaust bolts get seized from the heat and rust. Those broken bolts can be easily drilled out and tapped if they were studs or fully drilled and put nuts and bolts on the flange.
One thing I’d like to know more about is the 5cyl vortec, what one sounds like with a good exhaust, and a turbo, if anyone has fitted one in place of another swap. So if anyone is looking for a unique swap all the bits to do an ls swap should fit.
Hey got a quick question. I’m 15 I live in Ontario and I was looking at the isr exhaust. I’m wondering if that would be legal for a street car?!? Can Anyone in Ontario fill me in please and thanks.
@speedacademy finding how good the quality of these race land headers are by putting a ton of weight on them......... Check. No one dies seal of approval.
Looks great guys. Stock header is extremely restrictive, more to on California cars, but either way, it will feel a lot more peppy with the header. Note, the strut car doesn’t do anything on Miatas, it’s just extra weight. Look at all the national championship winning Miatas, none have strut bars.
Not a full cage. It’s a four point roll bar. Full cage to me is side protection and a minimum of 6 points built to a reputable sanctioning body’s regulations for safety I.e. tube thickness per vehicle weight, number of attachment points, with proven design and engineering, etc.
Hi! I love the exhausts design and sound and want to get it for my NB. But here in Germany the law is very strict. Do you know how loud (in decibel) the exhaust is approximately? With cat and the included muffler. Would be fantastic to know. ISR couldn´t give me any information.
You wont find that information anywhere, no one tests db here so sadly we do t have a good answer but it is a loud system. You could always add another muffler if its too loud.
Yes you will get a CEL from deleting the EGR. I am not currently aware of a cheap solution to trick the ECU either. Most guys just leave their EGR in tact until it's time to switch to a standalone ECU like a Megasquirt. That EGR should have bolted right up, so I'm not entirely sure why you guys deleted it lol Great livery and great number. RIP Nicky Hayden, #69 -Colorado Miata Guy
It will smooth out the lower end. Try y set ups will feel like power at the least. The 4-1 felt like more power at 4000 rmp. Stock jdm and eudm try y set ups have been dyno proven for the lower rpm so... Yeah. 3-5 hp somewhere but definitely quicker in the lower rpm tho.
I own a 2003 mx5 Miata with a 1.8 l engine, I am having a lot of trouble finding any exhaust system for my vehicle, whether it’s catback or full. A ton of searching with no luck. The one in this video is sold out. Any idea where I can find a cat back exhaust?
Hehehehe i have this car, right now im saving up... but im planning on a supercharger... mostly need to get the lsd first though as it has an open diff😥
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Good deal or bad on the Raceland Header and ISR exhaust?
I’m surprised how good that exhausted sounds! Looks funny sticking out with that massive tip but I guess you can’t complain for the price. Problems with the cheap header will show up once you get it hot on the track and the welds start cracking. Definitely not speaking from personal experience...
Speed Academy good deal. I had a good experience with those headers.
That sounds really REALLY good!
For a track only car you will probably be fine with the raceland. I have heard they can have issues with cracking when wrapped in heat shielding. You may want to install some Cool Mat on the driver's footwell area to keep from cooking your accelerator foot, since it's sure to be buried into the carpet the entire time you are on track! Car is looking the part for sure! Uncorking the intake side might get you a couple of HP now that you have done the exhaust, but there isn't too much meat on the bone unless you go to a standalone ECU. My 99 is dyno tuned to 140 whp, and it feels pretty good at that level. BP5A intake cam will add power up top, as well as an EUDM squaretop manifold. But, that may be upgrading beyond your intent with this car. Looking forward to seeing if this can hang with the abondoned STi around the track ;)
Good deal. That's a super cheap set up for a great sound and good look, but you'll find out if it's worth it once you get it to the track.
Guys please take the front license plate mount off. Save us all.
@@krazykk4 fortunately they are building it as a track car.
What's wrong with a front plate anyway?
Topias Salakka stops air from coming in
@@Luckyloony Not like it would make a big difference...
Izak Ambrose Required by my state (CA and MA)
Wow... I wasn't expecting that. The exhaust sounds amazing!
*Header 5HP. Stickers 10HP.*
You can use a Suzuki cappuccino washer bottle and after market pump mounted in the scuttle. It's what we have to do when you turbo.
At 4:12 I can only imagine a little bit of poo came out 😧 also that exhaust sounds good so definitely a win 👌🏼
yeah, is it just me or did the whole car move? I gasped out loud.
Washer fluid is on the passenger side in my NB2. Also Donut just did a before/after with an aftermarket header on the Dyno.
That rear muffler is a copy off a Japanese RSR EX- MAG 2 exhaust.
Super rare and no longer produced. Especially for NB8A
hot washer fluid melts the canadian grime off the windshield better.
@@creamwobbly NB2 had them on the driver side and NB1 on the pass
Left0verCuRry but this is an NB1 as it’s a 99. My 99 has it mounted on the passenger side.
Now everything make sense 👍
100% Dave picked the number. If not, I'll be disappointed
it has to be DP for obvious and devious reasons
@@popase05 "DP" basically stands for Dick Puns
@@nicolasbenoit6753 and double penetration
Safety first guys, that engine twitch scared me. And good idea on disconnecting both engine mounts, because jacking the engine on the hoist could've accidentally tipped it off the hoist
you will definitely pick up some power...through the whole rev range. that manifold you took off is awful and known to rob power compared to most other NA/NB miatas with a header from the factory.
So stick with Oem header?
Love this series, love you guys, keen to see some RUclipsrs out racing around!
Definitely would like to see a Big Ben vs Little Ben from Gears and Gasoline
Cappuccino windshield washer Reservoir fits in the cowl. It's a popular upgrade to clean up the engine bay. And I think the biggest concern on those cheap 4-2-1 headers is where the mergers are. The welds crack & the inside isn't clean.
Some people get a CEL from blocking the EGR, some don't. Interested to see how the Raceland header holds up. Lots of reports of the welds breaking under track use. Hard to beat that price, though!
I have that exhaust on my NB and overall love it. One thing to note is that over time the baffling in the resonator came loose and made a horrible rattling, so I welded a straight pipe in its place. Also expect the raceland header to contact the transmission tunnel under load. I eventually gave up and put a racing beat header in its place. Surprised it’s not that loud cause mine is ear bleeding under load!
Looks killer! I think the Speed Academy stripe at the bottom would look better continued past the door but still looks racecar as heck!
Do a bumper cut on the rear bumper over the exhaust. Gives it such a cool look. Maybe less air resistance?
Brandon Molzan I actually have a silver NB too with the same exhaust and a bumper cut haha. Shameless plug @miata.dhale on instagram
Really looking forward to this segment - the laptime miata. Looks great too, especially with the mods/livery.
when i first saw the size of that exhaust tip i thought it was going to look ridiculous on the car, but its actually an ok proportion when fitted.
You guys should get a cobalt Intake it’s pretty cheap and gives the intake a throaty sound.
The good thing about the #69 is... its always 69 when you roll-over and gets up-side down 😜
RIP Nicky Hayden
DeWeberis Always want to be ready for a roll-over...
Man. That's an awesome Miata, love the color scheme...and that exhaust sounds great. Definitely way deeper than I expected.
Might want to look at getting Mazda Competition Engine mounts, as the stock mounts flex way too much. When cornering hard and needing to shift to third, the engine will shift to the point where the shift forks won’t line up and it will NOT go into gear at least 50% of the time. ASR makes some really nice mounts that are more streetable if you get the lower durometer ones, but the Mazda completion mounts are more of a budget option
That vinyl time lapse work was pretty satisfying. Nice job!
my favorite miata exhaust. exact system im running on mine. the stock manifold heatshield was making all sorts of noise so im ashamed to say I went with the raceland header as well and it has really held up (longer than my racing beat I had on my old 1.6)
You guys 100% will have a check engine light from the EGR tube. It will not effect drivability in any way. So, you're good.
Here is your egr fix: " keep the EGR valve electrical connection connected, but block off the ports and switch the vacuum connection feeding the boost sensor from the middle of the intake manifold to the vacuum nipple just behind the throttle body." SN
Literally my exact exhaust header combo. Header slides in without lifting motor if you unbolt the 4 bolts holding in the steering rack and slide it to the right.
I have a 2001. How's the highway drive with it? (The sound/drone) and is it throwing a code or did the thing they send fix it so it wont throw one? Thanks for any info very Intrested in the exhaust.. I need to change my cat so this would take care of both..
@@chadb.6165 did you end up getting it?
@@skipper425 sure did and it has a slight drone between 2800-3800rpm. It is not a quiet exhaust but it sounds great :) oh and no code it works just fine.
@@chadb.6165 Awesome! How loud is loud. Anything I could compare it to?
I love cars and being able to put my foot down under bridges sounds like good fun. With some pops and bangs.
It's not headache loud is it?
@@chadb.6165 Awesome! How loud is loud. Anything I could compare it to?
I love cars and being able to put my foot down under bridges sounds like good fun. With some pops and bangs.
It's not headache loud is it?
Ahh hell, you guys should have pounded the internet for a Racing Beat 4 into 1 header, it makes 11 angry Japan horses over stock :-O
thats odd, my washer fluid tank is on the other side of the motor. i have a 99, us spec so left hand drive also
Mine is on the passenger side as well. I have a canadian spec NA. I found on a forum somewhere it could have something to do with whether your car has AC mine does not.
@@tmo2798 weird, I have a 99 NB, mica green as well but I have the tan Top and my coolant reservoir is on the left side. Currently ordering a blacktop since it looks better haha. I also have AC
That exhaust sounds good surprisingly!! The stickers also came out great!
Good series! You should talk to Greg at TheCarPassionChannel, Caleb at Gingium, and Taylor Ray. They're all Miata guys at (I think) varying levels of skill.
from what ive seen, a lot of ebay headers are copies of currently made units just with cheaper materials, so assuming there isn't a giant booger of a weld blocking flow, they should perform just as well, they just wont last as long
F..... That's a sexy MX5, perfect balance of stock and racey :D
If you guys want a washer fluid bottle work around: A lot of guys get the Suzuki Cappuccino fluid bottle which can fit behind the fire wall, plenty of info if you google "miata cappuccino bottle" you can find them for ~$30 CAD
I feel like the rear end needs some vinyl treatment, maybe a stripe or something. At the moment the Miata has everything in the front
How's that Raceland header holding up? Thanks for the video
So far so good! 🤷♂️
What’s the sound like on the road though? Freeway-wise
Loving the build. Keep u the great work🙌
Yeaaaah. My raceland header was a pain to install too. I just undid the driver side mount. Removing the rocker will also give a bit more wiggle room. Cover your hoses and wires near it or you'll burn through them.
Strut tower brace on a car with no struts ... it is like spooky action at a distance!
Should have gone with 66, the greatest Canadian legend!
That's actually really good looking with the decals.
the EGR usually comes into play when cruising a long time and in close loop. that's when a check engine light will come on. that exhaust does sound good tho
I have a raceland header on my 1999 NB and had the same problems installing. But got it in and it looked great. Got a good deal on it since it was a second hand one too. It really made a big difference on the car torque wise and I believe a bit on the top end. It's definitley feels and sounds so much better with a full exhaust as well. I have a 2.5 catback on mine with the factory cat still on.
You will get an EGR cel code for for the egr being blocked but you may get lucky and have the light come and go. mine has come and gone a few times. its pretty weird.
I did a write up on the header install. All you had to do was loose the motor mounts, use a Cherry picker to lift the motor up, and the header would slide right in! But what do i know? .....
What wheels are these? They are phenomenal! I want a pair.
Love my ISR Performance Exhaust on my Z. Good Choice.
This is the exact exhaust setup I have. I love the sound. Wait till you hear the deep deceleration tone
My Na Miata I had a raceland header obx test pipe and a yonaka catback. I noticed a big difference in how the car felt.
It sounds just like the MX5 in my old Dreamcast game, Metropolis Street racer.
Loved the Wayne Gretzky reference
Did you guys change out the motor mounts? Definitely worth looking into.
Man, that's a LOOOOOOOONG tube header! I was surprised that it was raceland. It actually looks pretty decent.
Looks awesome guys, the stickers really finish it off 👍
That washer is for an ABS car, the standard washer on a non-ABS car is on the passenger side.
^
I figured that stock exhaust wasn't going to last from the time I saw the "fix" on it before. I wasn't expecting anything quite so aggressive looking, though. It sounds quite a bit like my Fit, but a little louder.
Damn, it's actually looking and sounding pretty sweet!
Most exhaust bolts get seized from the heat and rust. Those broken bolts can be easily drilled out and tapped if they were studs or fully drilled and put nuts and bolts on the flange.
Did you guys happen to get a CEL from blocking off the ERG Valve or a code from blocking it off?
I have this same exhaust and I love it!!
Man. That bit at 4:11 was priceless.
Damn car is looking amazing for reals so much motivation in one video! loving the channel and the car guys!
I just got this exhaust and header setup on my nb1 a lot of work to install but worth mine kinda sounds like a civic
dave for sure picked that number
The big gain of that header is WEight !! Lol the stock log is insanely heavy
yes you'll get a check engine light. just take the bulb out of the instrument cluster unless you want to go stand alone and turbo it :)
One thing I’d like to know more about is the 5cyl vortec, what one sounds like with a good exhaust, and a turbo, if anyone has fitted one in place of another swap. So if anyone is looking for a unique swap all the bits to do an ls swap should fit.
It will make some power, but what it will really do totally reshape the power band. It should remove the mid power & make way happier to rev.
Hey got a quick question. I’m 15 I live in Ontario and I was looking at the isr exhaust. I’m wondering if that would be legal for a street car?!? Can Anyone in Ontario fill me in please and thanks.
lol when the car shifted when he had the engine mounts loosened, I blink-jumped. LOL
@speedacademy finding how good the quality of these race land headers are by putting a ton of weight on them......... Check. No one dies seal of approval.
Looks great guys. Stock header is extremely restrictive, more to on California cars, but either way, it will feel a lot more peppy with the header. Note, the strut car doesn’t do anything on Miatas, it’s just extra weight. Look at all the national championship winning Miatas, none have strut bars.
Don't they have a full cage which will stiffen up the chassis anyway?
Not a full cage. It’s a four point roll bar. Full cage to me is side protection and a minimum of 6 points built to a reputable sanctioning body’s regulations for safety I.e. tube thickness per vehicle weight, number of attachment points, with proven design and engineering, etc.
Sounds ok. I prefer the sound of my cobalt dual tip.
Hi! I love the exhausts design and sound and want to get it for my NB. But here in Germany the law is very strict. Do you know how loud (in decibel) the exhaust is approximately?
With cat and the included muffler. Would be fantastic to know. ISR couldn´t give me any information.
You wont find that information anywhere, no one tests db here so sadly we do t have a good answer but it is a loud system. You could always add another muffler if its too loud.
Another fun video guys, thanks. intialSpeed for racing your car. ;)
Yes you will get a CEL from deleting the EGR. I am not currently aware of a cheap solution to trick the ECU either. Most guys just leave their EGR in tact until it's time to switch to a standalone ECU like a Megasquirt. That EGR should have bolted right up, so I'm not entirely sure why you guys deleted it lol
Great livery and great number. RIP Nicky Hayden, #69
-Colorado Miata Guy
Im simple man! I see a miata, i subscribe and like!
Please install the CravenSpeed delrin door bushings and report how much difference in NVH reduction it makes!
Appreciate for this good and interesting post. Any plan to cure that rust by the way?
Can’t wait to upgrade my exhaust even more !
What is your guy's opinion on header/exhaust wrap and turbo blankets?
As long as it fits it'll work well enough! Love my hands in a Miata bay.
It will smooth out the lower end. Try y set ups will feel like power at the least. The 4-1 felt like more power at 4000 rmp. Stock jdm and eudm try y set ups have been dyno proven for the lower rpm so... Yeah. 3-5 hp somewhere but definitely quicker in the lower rpm tho.
damn that sounds good! nice and deep tone. i had an ISR setup on my 03 Z and 08 Z nismo as well, but they were called ISIS back then ;D
People at C17 are great!
Looks good! I think you need to re-home Petes spare LS engine in it...
I own a 2003 mx5 Miata with a 1.8 l engine, I am having a lot of trouble finding any exhaust system for my vehicle, whether it’s catback or full. A ton of searching with no luck. The one in this video is sold out. Any idea where I can find a cat back exhaust?
Check Megan Racing, Cobalt, Racing Beat
Great job you guys the car looks sweet
I was thinking of buying this set up the isr but readline doesn’t even ship to Canada ??
Hehehehe i have this car, right now im saving up... but im planning on a supercharger... mostly need to get the lsd first though as it has an open diff😥
What about the catalytic converter? those can be as much as your whole exhaust/header system. So, how much have you spent on your budget baby?
Might be the first vaguely budget thing so far :D
Look up the cappucino bottle "hack". You can get it mailed from japan $50 CDN all in.
I'm sure it's Dave that chose the number "69".
I want to get this isr exhaust do you think it’s to loud for a weekend/track car
Get the skunk2 intake and throttle, they make the car pull wayy more
Any new Touareg videos coming? I bought one last week and are looking forward to it.
There is also a vacuum line swap that will take care of the EGR light