Finally a 25" pad with the proper type of baffles for side sleepers at a reasonable price. After the (fragile) Nemo Tensor failed me on the first night, I returned it and I got a cheap non-insulated pad that has this quilted design. Being a side sleeper, that quilted design is way better than the Nemo - for me, at least. And after everything I've read about Big Agnes pads, they seem to sleep colder. Thanks for putting this one on my radar. With fall right around the corner, I'm gonna pick up of these.
I’ve seen many people say they’ve had issues with leaks on their tensor pads. I’ve had several over the years and never had one leak. I’ve got a hole in one but that was my fault.
Really like my large-size so far with two nights recently. Excellent customer service; they replaced pad free of charge when I had no fault issue. Highly recommended.
Seems like a very fair review of this pad. Since you have started using this pad, KilosGear has come out with a 3.8 R-value ultra-light version which I have ordered a couple days ago. Obviously, I'm not expecting to take that out anywhere below 40*F. I'm also a side-sleeper, and I tend to turn like a gas station roller dog during the night. I went with the larger size simply because I find that trying to stay on a pad as I turn is more disrupting to my sleep and maybe, I'll carry a warmer bag or a close-cell pad to help make up for having to heat a larger pad. There are always compromises with hiking equipment.
Thank you! I’ve actually been testing the UL pad as well. So far it’s been excellent. I’ve been comfortable and warm on it. Looking forward to more time with it as temperatures drop to see what its limit might be.
You are correct that a smaller mattress will sleep warmer than a larger one for you. It takes more energy to heat up a larger volume of air. And the increased surface area of the mattress increases the rate at which the heat is lost to the environment. How warm the thing sleeps will depend on the ratio of the size of the person to the surface area (all other things like insulation etc being equal).
I recently got this pad. It's by far the most comfortable pad I've ever had and I've pretty much had everything over the years. Way more comfortable than the Etherlite xt which, apart from disintegrating almost immediately, wallowed about like a water bed. Less than half the price of its competitors, too. Really impressed. I'm not that fussed about long term durability as every pad from thermarest, nemo, s2s, klymit etc have eventually leaked. Warmth will be way less than the r value stated though as a narrow human body can't warm up such a large pad like this.
Nice! It really has been an impressive pad, especially for the price! I’d like to see an update from sea to summit on that pad. It’s not had any changes in a long time.
@BackcountryExposure I thought it would be the holy grail, but all the welds started splitting straight away, and my god, it squeaked on the tent floor. I think for warmth in winter construction is as important as r value. Loads of reflective layers, like in the XTherm are way more effective. The plates they use to measure r value don't really represent actual camping experiences. Keep up the great content.
I’ve used it (the large one) in January in the Italian Alps while motocamping at the Agnellotreffen, my tent (Pomoly Leo 2 but not using the stove) being set on the snow and I was happy with the pad. Although I must confess that I don’t bother much being cold. Temperature the first night went down to minus 8 C and the second night to minus 12 C. I slept well the first night (wearing my cloth : winter boots, a regular 501 Levi’s and an Avirex sheep’s skin jacket) but I was cold the second night when I undressed to sleep in my sleeping bag. It was my fault though as I brought a light sleeping bag ment for summer only. I usually use a solid foam thermarest pad, and I’ve found the Kilos Gear to provide far more comfort and insulation while being less bulky to carry on my motorcycle.
I see you're wearing the Bedrock sandals. I love them, ive been wearing them on all my outdoor adventures this summer. From backpacking to canoeing and everything in between.
Great review Devin. I have an awesome idea. Let’s get a crew together where we all take our favorite sleeping pad, find a river, and do the “white water rafting” test. At least a faster moving river test. It would be a fun trip!
Devin, I think this new kilos gear is amazing. Harkens back to when BA made the q-core for that ultimate comfort. However you and Justin have shown how adding batted style insulation along with the reflective film can make more of a difference with r value and warmer nights of sleep. This year I am considering EXPEDs 5 pad, Kilos Gears pad, and the one Dan is testing… Flextail’s R-5 pad. I’m more of a fan aswell of the quilted pattern, but it seems the vertical baffles on the EXPED and so far with Flextail’s pad that may not be as much of an issue. Soooo… three to consider???
Thanks! As I mentioned in the video, this Kilos pad is a solid 3 season pad. It’s also mighty comfortable! My experience is the Ultra 5R sleeps a bit warmer than the Kilos pad, but I find the kilos more comfortable as a side sleeper with the quilted baffling. The Ultra 5R is a great pad too. Its fabric is soft and has good stretch to it so it’s a bit more comfortable than other vertical baffle pads. I don’t have any experience with the Flextail pad. I can’t speak to its quality or sleep.
I might have to check this one out. The quilting looks similar to the Ether Lite, which I found very comfortable. I have a Tensor All Season now, only 4 nights on it, but so far it’s not my favorite.
Very interesting. I do believe I would go for the ultralight as one of the others have said. A good thin pad under it would probably do wonders. I don’t foresee too many nights below freezing in my future so would probably be great. I would be carrying a pad anyway. And the price!!! That’s impressive. Thanks
Having a thin closed cell foam pad like the thin lite pads is a solid option to create just that slight barrier for added warmth. I dig it. I just used the UL pad the last two nights at 9500’ and 11,000’ and I really enjoyed it!
@@kmichaelp4508 I didn’t use a thin pad under it for this trip I was just on. It’s August, so the ground temperature is still pretty warm, so I’m not overly concerned about cold ground being a big factor in sleeping warm. Temps got down to low 40’s both nights and I never felt cold against my back. I really enjoyed the UL pad.
1 on 1 STS Ether light XT, even valve design is copied! Hope integrated pumpsack is in place too :) That's a good thing actually, cause STS somehow doesn't hold up to the competition - their pads are either light&cold either heavy&warm. My insulated Ether light pad doesn't hold even +10 degrees. Need to try this AeroCloud, thanks for the review!
Really intriguing pad. What’s the warranty on this? The advantage of the bigger name pads like Nemo and Big Agnes is that you can get it at Rei. Members get 20% coupons and one year exchange/return.
still think I would go with the UL version. $20 less, 103g less, but only R3.8 vs the R5.0 rating of the Elite. As you stated, you felt the cold coming up through the ground still. If I am not taking it below 30F, as you recommended, then I would rather just use the R3.8 of the UL version.
@@RideAlongside I just had the UL pad out for two nights. Temps into low 40’s and was warm. Which with the ground temperature being high with it being August it was a great combo. I’ll be interested to see how that changes if it does as we move into the fall with colder temps. But still very comfortable, saves some weight and cost.
@@BackcountryExposure thanks so much for the reply. Do you have a review video on that one? Sorry if I missed it, I have notifications turned on, but was signed out of my YT account for months recently. The temp data points you provided here in the comment above is exactly what I was wondering about. Winter camping always feels slow and heavy with long nights of sleep. Often I hammock camp and get off the ground completely since my pack is already heavier and I am looking for added comfort for a long night's rest. Thanks again, Nick.
@@RideAlongside no review on the UL yet. I’ve just started testing. I got home yesterday afternoon from the trip I had the UL pad with me on. I’ll likely have an initial review after a couple more nights later this month.
If they had a regular - wide version then I would consider it. I have wide shoulders and would be hanging off the edges of the pad. 25 inches is too narrow for me.
How would you compare to the Exped Ultra 3R and the REI Helix? Price seems comparable when the Helix is on sale. Those two were the ones I was considering for my first backpacking air mattress
I have the Ultra 5R and enjoy it. This AeroCloud sleeps more comfortable for me. The vertical baffles of the EXPED are my least favorite baffle style. The Helix is comfy, but I’d still take the Kilos over the Helix personally.
I used this pad in norway and it was a lot colder than my exped versa r5.2. We had around 4C and it felt like I had to constantly fight the cold... switched mid night to the exped
@@davidshirley6850 man that Quasar is super comfy! This is also very comfortable. Comfort is subjective depending on your sleeping style, but I’ve found this one to be one of the more comfortable pads I’ve used. On par with the Zenbivy UL pad, Quasar.
Oooh that’s a good question. Both are excellent. The Zenbivy does require it to be firmly inflated to keep your hip from pushing to the ground. So the Kilos gives you a little more flexibility in that regard for a slightly softer inflation of that’s your style.
What upsets me with air pads is that they eventually get a leak, and trying to find the leak while out camping is darn near impossible. Many times, I have woken at night because I got uncomfortable only to find out my pad leaked, pumped it with air, wake up about 3 hours later flat. Very annoying when out trying to camp. And the closed cell foam pads are horribly uncomfortable. We're supposed to be camping in the wild, not on the living room floor where nothing will puncture it...and that may not be guaranteed either.
I just received mine. I inflated it in my living room, laid down and attempted to fine tune the pressure on the valve. This was honestly a very frustrating experience. It is difficult to depress the little fine tune button on the valve, which sticks once a minor amount of air does start to seep out of the pad. I've had many pads, some with finicky valves but have not found any reliable way to adjust pressure on this pad that doesn't involve frantically stabbing at the button to hope to have it reseal. I inspected the valve but pulling the dump portion. there is nothing defective, but the design appears to be inherently flawed. I would be curious to know if anyone else has had the same issue. Super comfortable pad that actually feels very warm, but this is a concern.
Yes I have the same issue, but all things considered it’s a fairly small niggle. It’s exactly the same as on one of my Trekology pillows actually. Comfort is not impaired so it doesn’t really bother me.
I see similarities, but I wouldn’t call it a ripoff. I stopped using the Ether Light cause of how loud it was against most tent floors. It also just wasn’t warm enough. I like this AeroCloud more.
@@todddietz2964 based on my experience so far, I have had it down to the low 40’s, and I was completely warm and comfortable. Never felt any cold spots. That might be a little different come the fall, when the ground temperature is colder. So that’s where I feel comfortable saying as of right now. That said, it’s a really comfortable pad and I slept great.
@@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzyooohh that’s tough. Honestly both pads are excellent! Similar weights. I think the Zenbivy sleeps a touch warmer, but the AeroCloud is a little thicker and has been overall better for side sleeping. The Zenbivy requires a pretty firm inflation to keep your hip off the ground.
@@BackcountryExposure I typically pair any inflatable pad with a closed cell (r-1) as both protection and added comfort and warmth which I feel would boost the performance of this kilos. Also the older I get I care more and more about comfort and less and less about weight. Thank you so much again for your above and beyond interaction with all of us. This goes so appreciated on our end of this Avenue.
Im 230, and a side sleeper. The zenbivy flex air works well for me. The big Agnes rapide was the most comfortable for me, but I kept getting cold spots. The zenbivy isn’t as comfortable, but it’s close, and the insulation and materials are top notch
Awesome video! Please test the Decathlon Mt 900, it has got killer stats and costs about the same as the Kilos, while being from a brand that is very well known and widespread
@@OdetteLausell I don’t have access to the testing. As I mentioned in the video, r value is just one piece of the equation. Ground temperature and ambient temperature play more into the performance of a pad.
suspicious. you got 2 models - reg and large whilst you only need one for hiking. Why do you have 2 looking brand new as never used? Do you get them for review? I'm not sure that there is no conflict of interest. Really, really foggy.
@@romanrodionov3628 did you miss the first 30 seconds of the video? I outright disclose that the pads were sent to me for testing and to share a review on here on my channel. Nothing suspicious, just full transparency. And I share an honest review after a good amount of use with the pads. Pay better attention to what’s being shared and stop making unnecessary judgments.
Mine didn't last either... I did ask for a replacement so I will see how this one holds up... but the air leak in my first one was a complete catastrophe. However I will say it is a very comfortable pad
@@dennissnyder6330from my experience and working with Kilos through this testing process, I would have full confidence in them taking care of any issue.
@@BackcountryExposure I wanted to give you a big FYI, I just saw on Instagram an ad from Kilos gear with a lot of clips from this video (probably used without permission? ) as well as YOUR VOICE copied by AI. It's fairly obvious, but I thought you might want to know that they are using your personal property to make it look like you are telling people to buy their product.
Finally a 25" pad with the proper type of baffles for side sleepers at a reasonable price. After the (fragile) Nemo Tensor failed me on the first night, I returned it and I got a cheap non-insulated pad that has this quilted design. Being a side sleeper, that quilted design is way better than the Nemo - for me, at least. And after everything I've read about Big Agnes pads, they seem to sleep colder.
Thanks for putting this one on my radar. With fall right around the corner, I'm gonna pick up of these.
I’ve seen many people say they’ve had issues with leaks on their tensor pads. I’ve had several over the years and never had one leak. I’ve got a hole in one but that was my fault.
I'm a side sleeper too and own this KILOS Gear sleep pad...it is fine. I've used it for several nights of sleep so far and it's fine.
Really like my large-size so far with two nights recently. Excellent customer service; they replaced pad free of charge when I had no fault issue. Highly recommended.
Happy to hear they got you taken care of!
I'm just curious...what was your "no fault" issue that warranted replacement?
Seems like a very fair review of this pad. Since you have started using this pad, KilosGear has come out with a 3.8 R-value ultra-light version which I have ordered a couple days ago. Obviously, I'm not expecting to take that out anywhere below 40*F. I'm also a side-sleeper, and I tend to turn like a gas station roller dog during the night. I went with the larger size simply because I find that trying to stay on a pad as I turn is more disrupting to my sleep and maybe, I'll carry a warmer bag or a close-cell pad to help make up for having to heat a larger pad. There are always compromises with hiking equipment.
Thank you! I’ve actually been testing the UL pad as well. So far it’s been excellent. I’ve been comfortable and warm on it. Looking forward to more time with it as temperatures drop to see what its limit might be.
@@BackcountryExposurewhat would you say the true low temp limit is? Thank you!
You are correct that a smaller mattress will sleep warmer than a larger one for you. It takes more energy to heat up a larger volume of air. And the increased surface area of the mattress increases the rate at which the heat is lost to the environment. How warm the thing sleeps will depend on the ratio of the size of the person to the surface area (all other things like insulation etc being equal).
I recently got this pad. It's by far the most comfortable pad I've ever had and I've pretty much had everything over the years. Way more comfortable than the Etherlite xt which, apart from disintegrating almost immediately, wallowed about like a water bed.
Less than half the price of its competitors, too. Really impressed. I'm not that fussed about long term durability as every pad from thermarest, nemo, s2s, klymit etc have eventually leaked.
Warmth will be way less than the r value stated though as a narrow human body can't warm up such a large pad like this.
Nice! It really has been an impressive pad, especially for the price!
I’d like to see an update from sea to summit on that pad. It’s not had any changes in a long time.
@BackcountryExposure I thought it would be the holy grail, but all the welds started splitting straight away, and my god, it squeaked on the tent floor. I think for warmth in winter construction is as important as r value. Loads of reflective layers, like in the XTherm are way more effective. The plates they use to measure r value don't really represent actual camping experiences. Keep up the great content.
I’ve used it (the large one) in January in the Italian Alps while motocamping at the Agnellotreffen, my tent (Pomoly Leo 2 but not using the stove) being set on the snow and I was happy with the pad. Although I must confess that I don’t bother much being cold. Temperature the first night went down to minus 8 C and the second night to minus 12 C. I slept well the first night (wearing my cloth : winter boots, a regular 501 Levi’s and an Avirex sheep’s skin jacket) but I was cold the second night when I undressed to sleep in my sleeping bag. It was my fault though as I brought a light sleeping bag ment for summer only. I usually use a solid foam thermarest pad, and I’ve found the Kilos Gear to provide far more comfort and insulation while being less bulky to carry on my motorcycle.
That’s great info, thanks for sharing. I’m happy with the performance as you saw as well.
I see you're wearing the Bedrock sandals. I love them, ive been wearing them on all my outdoor adventures this summer. From backpacking to canoeing and everything in between.
Great review Devin. I have an awesome idea. Let’s get a crew together where we all take our favorite sleeping pad, find a river, and do the “white water rafting” test. At least a faster moving river test. It would be a fun trip!
@@MarkGoesHiking I can get behind that!
Thanks for the info! A sleep pad is the last expensive piece of gear I need, and this seems like it will fit the bill nicely.
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
Devin, I think this new kilos gear is amazing. Harkens back to when BA made the q-core for that ultimate comfort. However you and Justin have shown how adding batted style insulation along with the reflective film can make more of a difference with r value and warmer nights of sleep. This year I am considering EXPEDs 5 pad, Kilos Gears pad, and the one Dan is testing… Flextail’s R-5 pad. I’m more of a fan aswell of the quilted pattern, but it seems the vertical baffles on the EXPED and so far with Flextail’s pad that may not be as much of an issue. Soooo… three to consider???
Thanks! As I mentioned in the video, this Kilos pad is a solid 3 season pad. It’s also mighty comfortable! My experience is the Ultra 5R sleeps a bit warmer than the Kilos pad, but I find the kilos more comfortable as a side sleeper with the quilted baffling. The Ultra 5R is a great pad too. Its fabric is soft and has good stretch to it so it’s a bit more comfortable than other vertical baffle pads. I don’t have any experience with the Flextail pad. I can’t speak to its quality or sleep.
Finally!!!! I have been eyeing this pad for a bit now.... patiently waiting for a review by you!!!
@@nwmod39 thank you! Hopefully it helped in any decision you were looking to make.
Nice! I've been needing a new pad cause one of mine is being a dud! I will invest!! Dhx for the review brotherman!
@@daveclark63 right on, thanks Dave!
I might have to check this one out. The quilting looks similar to the Ether Lite, which I found very comfortable. I have a Tensor All Season now, only 4 nights on it, but so far it’s not my favorite.
What makes this pad unique is being 30-40% cheaper than a lot of the other big brand pads on the market, but still being very comfortable.
Looks durable. Nice price. Not much heavier than the Nemo Insulated Wide I'm using.
Very interesting. I do believe I would go for the ultralight as one of the others have said. A good thin pad under it would probably do wonders. I don’t foresee too many nights below freezing in my future so would probably be great. I would be carrying a pad anyway. And the price!!! That’s impressive. Thanks
Having a thin closed cell foam pad like the thin lite pads is a solid option to create just that slight barrier for added warmth. I dig it.
I just used the UL pad the last two nights at 9500’ and 11,000’ and I really enjoyed it!
@@BackcountryExposure , well did that do the trick? Did that confirm or deny my suspicions?
@@kmichaelp4508 I didn’t use a thin pad under it for this trip I was just on. It’s August, so the ground temperature is still pretty warm, so I’m not overly concerned about cold ground being a big factor in sleeping warm. Temps got down to low 40’s both nights and I never felt cold against my back. I really enjoyed the UL pad.
1 on 1 STS Ether light XT, even valve design is copied! Hope integrated pumpsack is in place too :)
That's a good thing actually, cause STS somehow doesn't hold up to the competition - their pads are either light&cold either heavy&warm. My insulated Ether light pad doesn't hold even +10 degrees. Need to try this AeroCloud, thanks for the review!
For those owning STS Ether light - STS pumpsack completely compatible with Kilos mat to inflate, just tried it today!
Really intriguing pad. What’s the warranty on this? The advantage of the bigger name pads like Nemo and Big Agnes is that you can get it at Rei. Members get 20% coupons and one year exchange/return.
It got lifetime warranty
@@ryanyu5051 thanks. I meant to say 1 year exchange or return.
still think I would go with the UL version. $20 less, 103g less, but only R3.8 vs the R5.0 rating of the Elite. As you stated, you felt the cold coming up through the ground still. If I am not taking it below 30F, as you recommended, then I would rather just use the R3.8 of the UL version.
@@RideAlongside I just had the UL pad out for two nights. Temps into low 40’s and was warm. Which with the ground temperature being high with it being August it was a great combo. I’ll be interested to see how that changes if it does as we move into the fall with colder temps. But still very comfortable, saves some weight and cost.
@@BackcountryExposure thanks so much for the reply. Do you have a review video on that one? Sorry if I missed it, I have notifications turned on, but was signed out of my YT account for months recently. The temp data points you provided here in the comment above is exactly what I was wondering about. Winter camping always feels slow and heavy with long nights of sleep. Often I hammock camp and get off the ground completely since my pack is already heavier and I am looking for added comfort for a long night's rest. Thanks again, Nick.
@@RideAlongside no review on the UL yet. I’ve just started testing. I got home yesterday afternoon from the trip I had the UL pad with me on. I’ll likely have an initial review after a couple more nights later this month.
@@BackcountryExposurei have tested the UL. Comfy and light- but the valve is terrible.
@@Slidteskohave you contacted Kilos about the valve? Mine was kind of stiff the first few times inflated it, but it’s totally good after some use.
If they had a regular - wide version then I would consider it. I have wide shoulders and would be hanging off the edges of the pad. 25 inches is too narrow for me.
How would you compare to the Exped Ultra 3R and the REI Helix? Price seems comparable when the Helix is on sale. Those two were the ones I was considering for my first backpacking air mattress
I have the Ultra 5R and enjoy it. This AeroCloud sleeps more comfortable for me. The vertical baffles of the EXPED are my least favorite baffle style.
The Helix is comfy, but I’d still take the Kilos over the Helix personally.
I used this pad in norway and it was a lot colder than my exped versa r5.2. We had around 4C and it felt like I had to constantly fight the cold... switched mid night to the exped
I even had foampad underneath me. But it was very comfortable!
How is the comfort compared to the nemo quazar? Usually camp down to 40 degrees so comfort is main concern
@@davidshirley6850 man that Quasar is super comfy! This is also very comfortable. Comfort is subjective depending on your sleeping style, but I’ve found this one to be one of the more comfortable pads I’ve used. On par with the Zenbivy UL pad, Quasar.
look so similar to the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated
@@micbernier6403 it does. But so does the Rapide, Zoom, and many other pads.
Which one is more comfortable kilos or zenbivy ul for side sleppers ?
Oooh that’s a good question. Both are excellent. The Zenbivy does require it to be firmly inflated to keep your hip from pushing to the ground. So the Kilos gives you a little more flexibility in that regard for a slightly softer inflation of that’s your style.
What upsets me with air pads is that they eventually get a leak, and trying to find the leak while out camping is darn near impossible. Many times, I have woken at night because I got uncomfortable only to find out my pad leaked, pumped it with air, wake up about 3 hours later flat. Very annoying when out trying to camp. And the closed cell foam pads are horribly uncomfortable. We're supposed to be camping in the wild, not on the living room floor where nothing will puncture it...and that may not be guaranteed either.
You also recently reviewed the Zenbivy Flex and im waiting for it to come back in stock. Is this pad comparable at half the price? Looks similar.
I noticed you had an Exped ultra, how does it compare to this?
Yup, that's why I use a mummy shaped pad for winter use instead of a large rectangle. Less surface area exposed to the cold air.
I just received mine. I inflated it in my living room, laid down and attempted to fine tune the pressure on the valve. This was honestly a very frustrating experience. It is difficult to depress the little fine tune button on the valve, which sticks once a minor amount of air does start to seep out of the pad. I've had many pads, some with finicky valves but have not found any reliable way to adjust pressure on this pad that doesn't involve frantically stabbing at the button to hope to have it reseal. I inspected the valve but pulling the dump portion. there is nothing defective, but the design appears to be inherently flawed. I would be curious to know if anyone else has had the same issue. Super comfortable pad that actually feels very warm, but this is a concern.
Yes I have the same issue, but all things considered it’s a fairly small niggle. It’s exactly the same as on one of my Trekology pillows actually. Comfort is not impaired so it doesn’t really bother me.
I have a zenbivy light sheet (the full length version). Would there be any issues with the light sheet fitting on a 26” mattress?
@@WayneWiduk it ought to fit as those sheets do allow for a little wiggle room.
Dang, this thing is a S2S Etherlight XT killer
The price is hard to beat.
I can't find the test report.
It looks like an almost direct ripoff of tje Sea to Summit Eatherlite XT. How does it compare to that? Thanks
I see similarities, but I wouldn’t call it a ripoff. I stopped using the Ether Light cause of how loud it was against most tent floors. It also just wasn’t warm enough. I like this AeroCloud more.
@@BackcountryExposure What temp would you feel comfortable using the AeroCloud UL down to?
@@todddietz2964 based on my experience so far, I have had it down to the low 40’s, and I was completely warm and comfortable. Never felt any cold spots. That might be a little different come the fall, when the ground temperature is colder. So that’s where I feel comfortable saying as of right now. That said, it’s a really comfortable pad and I slept great.
Would this 26” wide work with a zen bivy 25” wide system?
Yes, I’ve been using the large light bed and ultralight bed with the size large pad.
@@BackcountryExposure if money were not an option would you go with zen bivy pad or this one? I like a lot of this ones features.
@@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzyooohh that’s tough. Honestly both pads are excellent! Similar weights. I think the Zenbivy sleeps a touch warmer, but the AeroCloud is a little thicker and has been overall better for side sleeping. The Zenbivy requires a pretty firm inflation to keep your hip off the ground.
@@BackcountryExposure I typically pair any inflatable pad with a closed cell (r-1) as both protection and added comfort and warmth which I feel would boost the performance of this kilos. Also the older I get I care more and more about comfort and less and less about weight. Thank you so much again for your above and beyond interaction with all of us. This goes so appreciated on our end of this Avenue.
12 nights?
Indeed
Bought mine July 19th, still have not received it. Their shipping is awful. 😢
Have you followed up with them?
@BackcountryExposure Yes I did. It is taking a tour of the country. I joked with them that using USPS would take another month.
@@simplywanda1065hope it shows up soon. It’s a fun, enjoyable pad!
Well it still looks like there isn't a properly quilted pattern pad on the market that is comfortable and warm for a human that is 200 lbs +.
Im 230, and a side sleeper. The zenbivy flex air works well for me. The big Agnes rapide was the most comfortable for me, but I kept getting cold spots. The zenbivy isn’t as comfortable, but it’s close, and the insulation and materials are top notch
@@MattVHulst good to know, I'll keep my eye on that zen bivy. I went with the exped 5R. Not quilted but has proven to be warm and comfortable.
Awesome video! Please test the Decathlon Mt 900, it has got killer stats and costs about the same as the Kilos, while being from a brand that is very well known and widespread
It is not feasible to publish any authoritative test report to prove the R value.
@@OdetteLausell I don’t have access to the testing. As I mentioned in the video, r value is just one piece of the equation. Ground temperature and ambient temperature play more into the performance of a pad.
suspicious. you got 2 models - reg and large whilst you only need one for hiking. Why do you have 2 looking brand new as never used? Do you get them for review? I'm not sure that there is no conflict of interest. Really, really foggy.
@@romanrodionov3628 did you miss the first 30 seconds of the video? I outright disclose that the pads were sent to me for testing and to share a review on here on my channel. Nothing suspicious, just full transparency. And I share an honest review after a good amount of use with the pads.
Pay better attention to what’s being shared and stop making unnecessary judgments.
Terrible brand, two of them didn't even last a season!!
@@DanielOutdoors hmmm I’m sorry to hear that.
@@DanielOutdoors You can ask them for replacement
Mine didn't last either... I did ask for a replacement so I will see how this one holds up... but the air leak in my first one was a complete catastrophe.
However I will say it is a very comfortable pad
@@dennissnyder6330from my experience and working with Kilos through this testing process, I would have full confidence in them taking care of any issue.
@@BackcountryExposure I wanted to give you a big FYI, I just saw on Instagram an ad from Kilos gear with a lot of clips from this video (probably used without permission? ) as well as YOUR VOICE copied by AI. It's fairly obvious, but I thought you might want to know that they are using your personal property to make it look like you are telling people to buy their product.
Budget......