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  • @eyesack2007
    @eyesack2007 Месяц назад +10550

    can’t believe they made a movie called civil war but didn’t include either captain america or iron man smh my head

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 Месяц назад +146

      Captain America: Civil War, the only GOOD Civil War.

    • @Modie
      @Modie Месяц назад +188

      I also like to shake my head my head.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa Месяц назад +49

      @@Modie Shake it off.

    • @TheRealLegoDocOck
      @TheRealLegoDocOck Месяц назад +43

      And it has no Spider-Man too smh

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Месяц назад +2

      Or Axl Ro

  • @TheSuckoShow
    @TheSuckoShow Месяц назад +3076

    It's about an hour and forty nine minutes.

  • @TSDTalks22
    @TSDTalks22 Месяц назад +5791

    I can see why Civil War caused so much discourse. On one hand I don’t like the sokovia accords, but on the other iron man has Spider-Man on his team. It’s a hard choice to be sure

    • @axt2
      @axt2 Месяц назад +88

      for me it was seeing Cable debuting the super-power of having smartphone-like abilities, literally one year before the iphone released. Talk about awkward.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад +61

      And then he said "It's Civil time" and proceeded to civil all over the bad guys

    • @zeroconnection
      @zeroconnection Месяц назад +9

      Keep going mate. After video essays, text based or regular essays are a close second.

    • @TheRealLegoDocOck
      @TheRealLegoDocOck Месяц назад +12

      @@LuisSierra42 he proceeded to start a war that was very civil

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 Месяц назад +18

      Honestly, super weird how the pro government guy basically hires and grooms a 16 year old vigilante that takes the law into his own hands, gets shot at by police on a regular basis and is considered a public menace.

  • @luiginastro8831
    @luiginastro8831 Месяц назад +5552

    It's about a war that's civil.

    • @CrazyEight-art
      @CrazyEight-art Месяц назад +224

      They better make a sequel and call it 2 civil 2 war

    • @zangoloid
      @zangoloid Месяц назад +14

      why is it called civil?

    • @GnosticAtheist
      @GnosticAtheist Месяц назад +93

      @@zangoloid In case you are not trolling and actually ask a serious question; the word "civil" in this context derives from the Latin word "civis," which means "citizen." Thus, it means "citizen war" and refers to different groups inside its own nation at war with each other. To act "civil" only means to act in a sense that is communial, that you "work" with the community thus are a good civis, as opposed to a criminal.

    • @happilyhadesbound
      @happilyhadesbound Месяц назад

      ​@@zangoloid
      "May I kill you please?"
      "Sure."

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад +6

      @@CrazyEight-art Civil 2 War

  • @davymugire8581
    @davymugire8581 Месяц назад +3276

    in jesse plemons voice: "what kind of civil war viewer are you?"

  • @pajamapantsjack5874
    @pajamapantsjack5874 Месяц назад +2794

    “Ok here’s my pitch: it’s a movie about nothing”
    -Jerry Civilwarfield

    • @Aver888
      @Aver888 Месяц назад +22

      The second guy covers that.

    • @Robocop4000
      @Robocop4000 Месяц назад +16

      Who wrote this? Its called "Civil War"

    • @TheArthkm
      @TheArthkm Месяц назад +30

      What's the deal with Civil Wars huh? I don't get it

    • @robertross45
      @robertross45 Месяц назад

      Lol!

    • @YumLemmingKebabs
      @YumLemmingKebabs Месяц назад +8

      What's the deal with war journalists?

  • @FormerBunsenBurner
    @FormerBunsenBurner Месяц назад +911

    I love the implication that they've been sitting there for 18 hours trying to guess what Civil War was about and only then got to the most obvious answers

    • @OfficerFriendly2006
      @OfficerFriendly2006 28 дней назад +9

      They started on really complex and wordy answers but now they’ve given up and are just desperate.

  • @OintmentNailhead
    @OintmentNailhead Месяц назад +1426

    I swear… if I keep scrolling and see something stupid like “the absolute war, he’s never civil” I’m gonna go crazy

    • @Wyrm3
      @Wyrm3 Месяц назад +100

      I just want people to be genuine again. I hate irony :(

    • @memevondank1197
      @memevondank1197 Месяц назад +39

      That civil will never war

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 Месяц назад +152

      @@Wyrm3 The absolute irony, he's never genuine!

    • @minerman60101
      @minerman60101 Месяц назад +67

      @@Wyrm3 They took your genuine search for human connection and nuanced discourse and ironied all over the place

    • @hiten_style
      @hiten_style Месяц назад +52

      @@Wyrm3 That's my secret, Cap. I'm always irony.
      - Iron Man, Civil War (2024)

  • @thomasryan8581
    @thomasryan8581 Месяц назад +1146

    It's about a bidding war between 2 construction companies over who gets to work on a bridge

    • @spencer8218
      @spencer8218 Месяц назад +52

      Now the violence makes sense

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 Месяц назад +11

      Francis Scott Key, dis some Baltimore shit.

    • @LaRavachole
      @LaRavachole Месяц назад +68

      So it's basically Team Fortress 2?

    • @2bHero69
      @2bHero69 Месяц назад +15

      No, that's Civic War

    • @playman350
      @playman350 Месяц назад +4

      I would watch the fuck out of that

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Месяц назад +2660

    I think we can all agree that Texas and California teaming up is the most unrealistic plot point of this whole movie

    • @MJTRadio
      @MJTRadio Месяц назад +188

      I mean, they were independent countries opposing Gilead in The Handmaid’s Tale and The Testaments. It’s not even original.

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 Месяц назад +574

      I thought that was a blatant centrist writing move so the movie would actually get green lit since there would be no blatant demonization of either political party. I.E. “both sides bad”

    • @kchampz1093
      @kchampz1093 Месяц назад +352

      "see! it's not about our own political discourse! california and texas are teamed up!" GREENLIT

    • @Roy_1
      @Roy_1 Месяц назад +24

      You realize a lot of Calibanicans moved to Texas?

    • @vabp8985
      @vabp8985 Месяц назад +105

      california is more texas than texas once you leave the big cities

  • @LordRambo
    @LordRambo Месяц назад +513

    Its about a greedy land developer who wants to demolish the beloved capitol building to build a bustling new shopping mall, and the plucky youths who must band together to stop him. Mischief ensues.

    • @AgentHeroic
      @AgentHeroic Месяц назад +44

      Question: Are these youths doing an off the cuff donation drive involving dances and musical numbers, or is this a Home Alone situation where they fight off the inept construction crew arriving to demolish the structure with traps that should murder them but leave them comically mugging at the camera in pain?

    • @dolsopolar
      @dolsopolar Месяц назад +2

      that's incorrect

    • @thathorrorguy1974
      @thathorrorguy1974 Месяц назад +13

      ​@@AgentHeroic It better be that second one or I'm refusing to watch it

    • @cameronharding2878
      @cameronharding2878 Месяц назад +2

      ​@AgentHeroic It's a reality show where you die If the plucky youths die

    • @cacophonousantiquarian8803
      @cacophonousantiquarian8803 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@thathorrorguy1974some sort of Boogaloo?

  • @jens2049
    @jens2049 Месяц назад +476

    Lmao 'Jesse Plemons is a scary mf' was literally my letterboxd review

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Месяц назад +2

      Exactly how many times is this guy going to be cast with his own wife?

    • @thehousecat93
      @thehousecat93 Месяц назад +20

      It’s only their second time in a project together, isn’t it? They had the second season of Fargo and this.
      I vote for a hundred more, if only because that means Kirsten Dunst is in more things, which would only be a good thing.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Месяц назад +6

      @@thehousecat93 They're literally also a married couple in "The Power of the Dog"

    • @JenniferFlopez098
      @JenniferFlopez098 Месяц назад

      ​@@thehousecat93 The Power of the Dog, aswell. Beautiful film.

    • @TheGameCapsule
      @TheGameCapsule Месяц назад +1

      He's not as scary because he's fat now. He was scarier in Breaking Bad

  • @varden1928
    @varden1928 Месяц назад +316

    "What are we, some kind of Civil War?" Jesse Plemons, probably

    • @bobafettjr85
      @bobafettjr85 Месяц назад +5

      When Plemmons said, "It's Civil time." and warred all over those guys.

    • @stormtraitor6545
      @stormtraitor6545 Месяц назад +4

      “Maybe the real Civil was the War we made along the way.”
      - Captain America cameo… probably…

    • @chizorama
      @chizorama Месяц назад +3

      A director so cowardly that he had to go with red shades over Oakleys & a Maga hat...

    • @johans3164
      @johans3164 27 дней назад

      Didnt Iron man said that?

  • @EE-iv5ej
    @EE-iv5ej Месяц назад +284

    Imagine how Texas and California teamed up
    California: "SAVE MARTHA!!!"
    Texas: "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???!!!"

    • @Sarez____-it4ks
      @Sarez____-it4ks Месяц назад +11

      Sounds like they're probably just trying to gain independence at the same time and temporarily worked together for that.

    • @caiden3396
      @caiden3396 Месяц назад +5

      That BvS scene made scene from what I recall. It just wasn't conveyed that well. Something with Bruce having mercy in the middle of an action to off Clark because of the emotional resonance of Clark's mom being in danger who was also named Martha...Okay, that sounds dumb on paper but is better in action.

    • @yanmagno3
      @yanmagno3 Месяц назад +2

      @@caiden3396it really wasn’t better in action tho, hence it being immortalized as a silly meme

    • @vk-eg3ro
      @vk-eg3ro Месяц назад

      No

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant 29 дней назад +6

      martha was the name of the woman who cleaned their homes when they were growing up

  • @Rslb7.
    @Rslb7. Месяц назад +136

    "A man divided against himself shall not carry the thing." -Abraham Lincoln, probably.

  • @benjrc3611
    @benjrc3611 Месяц назад +297

    “What we have here is a failure to communicate.”

    • @Belegor
      @Belegor Месяц назад +14

      "Some men, you just can't reach"

    • @DRAGNFLY
      @DRAGNFLY Месяц назад +8

      That's the way he wants it, that's the way he gets it. I don't like it any more than you may.

  • @BadassCat-nl9yk
    @BadassCat-nl9yk Месяц назад +862

    It’s about some super soldier who fighted iron man :)

  • @thomasp.1533
    @thomasp.1533 Месяц назад +155

    I'm pretty sure the civil war was about slavery, but that's just what every single history class I've ever taken says about it, so what do I know.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Месяц назад +24

      Nu uh it was about STA-

    • @DannoHung
      @DannoHung Месяц назад +12

      @@emblemblade9245 I didn't know that Dido was alive back then.

    • @JaMeshuggah
      @JaMeshuggah Месяц назад +3

      My state approved propaganda taught me

    • @pointlessgarbage8587
      @pointlessgarbage8587 Месяц назад +24

      @@JaMeshuggahas opposed to the other state approved propaganda!

    • @JaMeshuggah
      @JaMeshuggah Месяц назад

      @@pointlessgarbage8587 you are saying nothing

  • @jens2049
    @jens2049 Месяц назад +731

    Jesse Plemons scene is a 10/10 thats all that I know for sure about this movie

    • @SynGirl32
      @SynGirl32 Месяц назад +49

      100% by far the best scene in a movie that's fairly well-made at best and bafflingly shallow at worst.

    • @jens2049
      @jens2049 Месяц назад

      I dont think its shallow if you really get what its doing ​@@SynGirl32

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 Месяц назад +62

      @@SynGirl32Not sure how it’s shallow at all. It isn’t explicit about the political stances of the factions, but that’s the point. It’s supposed to be a warning not to do this, so not turning anyone off by explicitly backing an ideology (beyond authorizations being bad in general) helps it serve the purpose. And it fits with the protagonists being reporters. There’s even a line like, “We’re not to here to ask questions. We’re here so other people can ask the questions.”

    • @buggus1173
      @buggus1173 Месяц назад +35

      That scene sucks ass too. How did the Asian dude not understand the fact he just needed to say a US state. Jesse Plemons doesn’t have a fucking lie detector

    • @ThePhobophile
      @ThePhobophile Месяц назад +36

      ⁠@@thedapperdolphin1590*BUZZER SOUND* sorry, that is incorrect.

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Месяц назад +285

    The closest thing to a positive comment on the themes of _Civil War_ I've heard so far is "an alarming amount of people seems to think that having a war happening on your backyard is awesome, this movie is about how it would _actually_ be the opposite of awesome to have a war happening on your backyard" ... so apparently is a movie made exclusively to piss off WhatIfAltHistory and no-one else

    • @MaddSpazz2000
      @MaddSpazz2000 Месяц назад +25

      Tbf you make it sound great.

    • @francesthepossum1812
      @francesthepossum1812 Месяц назад +7

      THANK YOU

    • @remembertotakeshowerspleas355
      @remembertotakeshowerspleas355 Месяц назад +44

      @@MaddSpazz2000 It is. I kind of wish it didn't steer so far away from contemporary politics. It would have been great if it were proud boys and antifa people war criming each other instead of the generic factions we see in the movie.

    • @tendo649
      @tendo649 Месяц назад

      @@remembertotakeshowerspleas355 Agreed, even if one IRL rn is a lot worse than the other- in a hypothetical civil war scenario antifa is absolutely turning the violence up to 11

    • @eaglesfannnn
      @eaglesfannnn Месяц назад +22

      @@shatteredteethofgodno i want it to feel meaningful and relatable. Like when Iron Man chose to enforce the Sokovia Accords but Captain America said no way man and then they fought in an airport and I fly there you know

  • @MachiavellianPenguin1234
    @MachiavellianPenguin1234 Месяц назад +569

    The Man Carrying Thing civil war between him and Woman Carrying Man was crazy.
    Most bloodiest war in Man Carrying History

  • @b3z3jm3nny
    @b3z3jm3nny Месяц назад +44

    It’s about ethics in photojournalism

  • @p33zuh81
    @p33zuh81 Месяц назад +167

    ah yes the carrying war between man vs. thing

  • @neondemon5137
    @neondemon5137 Месяц назад +82

    95% of the people talking about the movie haven't even seen the movie.

    • @shan4680
      @shan4680 Месяц назад +9

      The maths checks out.

    • @NegaRenGenX2gay2lift
      @NegaRenGenX2gay2lift Месяц назад +5

      is there a point in seeing it if there is nothing?

    • @thecrispymaster
      @thecrispymaster Месяц назад +5

      That's most media tbf

    • @damonburr6510
      @damonburr6510 Месяц назад +16

      @@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift well since you've already decided that the movie is about nothing, then I guess there is no point in you seeing it.

    • @sambreyer7344
      @sambreyer7344 Месяц назад +3

      @@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift Just go see it, its fine

  • @Numbskill
    @Numbskill Месяц назад +37

    It’s about Kirsten Dunst going on a cross country roadtrip with her buddies to see the sights and casual deaths this beautiful country has to offer

    • @larryargent503
      @larryargent503 Месяц назад +7

      I really want that comedy mash up edit. Treating the movie like a Summer buddy road trip movie. Sounds like good times.

    • @Numbskill
      @Numbskill Месяц назад +1

      @@larryargent503 I’d pay to see that

    • @worldofdoom995
      @worldofdoom995 Месяц назад

      Not even cross country. From NYC to DC

  • @ThePkmnYPerson
    @ThePkmnYPerson Месяц назад +101

    Isn't it about how getting photos of a war is a frightening and dangerous job?
    ...Or Captain America fighting Iron Man?

    • @B-26354
      @B-26354 Месяц назад +9

      The real heroes are the New York Times journalists...
      That's the message I think the film was trying to portray.

    • @zanerussell6365
      @zanerussell6365 Месяц назад +29

      No, I think the movie was about how photojournalists go to streniuous lengths to get warning photos meant for activism but said activism fails when the spectacle or tragedy is idealized and the images become art. She literally says the theme near the movies beginning. "I took these photos as a warning for what we shouldn't do back home, but they've had the opposite effect." (Or something like that.) Effectively the whole movie was about, "hey look at this, this is what you've all been calling for on your online forums but look how bad it actually is! Hence why there really is no sides or resolution outside slaughtering everyone in DC.
      My only issue was, after the movie says this near the beginning it really becomes about nothing but showing us how horrible everything is. Although I did enjoy the movie.

    • @andy-gamer
      @andy-gamer Месяц назад +16

      @@zanerussell6365i think she was taking pictures of spider-man

  • @ChrisKeziahHyde
    @ChrisKeziahHyde Месяц назад +45

    Just seen it today and I'm still trying to process it.
    I think a lot of the discourse revolves around the fact it doesn't take a political stance (which it silently does) and how it's not about left vs right which is definitely not the point of the film.
    The film is more of a case about journalism and their purpose to remain impartial. How it explores three different generations of journalism from the Dune guy (can't remember his name soz) to Kirsten and Wagners and then to the young girl who tags along.
    But yeah that Jesse Plemons scene hits hard.

    • @TheGamingRapper
      @TheGamingRapper Месяц назад +20

      The fact that it doesn’t take a political stance makes it that much more interesting to me but it definitely won’t be for some

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Месяц назад +8

      Wow, well the trailer I saw for it gave me absolutely none of those impressions and made it just look like a cheap thriller lol, thanks marketing

    • @ChrisKeziahHyde
      @ChrisKeziahHyde Месяц назад +20

      @@TheGamingRapper it does take a slight political stance as Offerman is basically a Trump allegory. I get exactly what you mean though as how politically charged everyone is atm people want to see division when we need to be seeing the consequences of what further division can have.

    • @ChrisKeziahHyde
      @ChrisKeziahHyde Месяц назад +6

      @@emblemblade9245 trailers aren't the best at showing what the film represents and I think it's because they have to appeal to as wide a demographic as possible.
      Marketing in general doesn't appeal to me, I usually only check out a trailer if I'm interested in the film's synopsis. That's why I wanted to see Civil War because I felt it wasn't trying to say anything too political but show the consequences of how damaging an active conflict can be.
      We have in the west been fortunate to have very little conflict so when we see reports of Ukraine and the Israel/Palestine conflicts we can have some distance but to see it on home turf (so to speak, I'm not American but I did feel an empathy) it really puts into perspective how delicate this situation is and how worse it can become.

    • @matheusarruda6462
      @matheusarruda6462 Месяц назад

      Arguing for the sanctity of journalism while crediting two fascist transphobes as journalists thanks lmao

  • @speed78655
    @speed78655 Месяц назад +75

    "Enjoyed godzilla x kong" BRUHHH THAT'S NOT FAIR MAN

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Месяц назад +10

      Fuckin loved that movie

    • @jens2049
      @jens2049 Месяц назад

      Seek help ​@@emblemblade9245

    • @jaythemovieguy7751
      @jaythemovieguy7751 Месяц назад +4

      On his Letterboxd, he gave it 3.5 stars, so he's probably just messing with the fans.

  • @hugoalvarez8307
    @hugoalvarez8307 Месяц назад +54

    I have no idea what this is about but I'm all here for the carrying of things

  • @pacorka9943
    @pacorka9943 Месяц назад +18

    It's about getting the Muppets back together again to
    Stop an evil oil baron from demolishing the old studio

    • @davidgeslani48
      @davidgeslani48 Месяц назад

      No, that's communism

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 Месяц назад +3

      The Muppets movie has far more sophisticated political commentary tbh

  • @sinistrality
    @sinistrality Месяц назад +230

    He never civils, the absolute war!

    • @Alexq79-
      @Alexq79- Месяц назад +11

      Oh god i just civiled myself and war’d my pants

  • @eternalfailure4081
    @eternalfailure4081 Месяц назад +37

    I know the joke is "the absolute legend, he never misses" but with these sketches about discourse, you really never miss, this is exactly what everyone's been saying

  • @sangmoon2464
    @sangmoon2464 Месяц назад +111

    It is about journalists covering a war which just happens in the USA to make a title that will hopefully attract people to watch it.

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 Месяц назад +27

      Also, civil war is bad, so let’s not do that

    • @aidangordon2713
      @aidangordon2713 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@thedapperdolphin1590Also, Ron Swanson is secretly a Mussolini-style brat.

    • @Viraus2
      @Viraus2 Месяц назад +3

      Also you have more guns than a UK Civil War movie and guns are fun

    • @galacticboy2009
      @galacticboy2009 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@Viraus2I will say all the Irish civil war movies I've seen seemed incredibly armed, despite being at least 50% UK

    • @Critical1ce
      @Critical1ce Месяц назад +2

      That is basically what it is. We had one and it sucked

  • @dyoung6003
    @dyoung6003 Месяц назад +70

    the marketing for this movie was more misleading than wonka not being marketed as a musical
    fantastic movie though

    • @ipadbossbaby4558
      @ipadbossbaby4558 Месяц назад +20

      I agree in a sense but tbh it having texas and cali joining up made me immediately go oh okay this is gonna be something else.

    • @RelaxAndSmokeMeth
      @RelaxAndSmokeMeth Месяц назад +1

      movie was garbo

    • @dyoung6003
      @dyoung6003 Месяц назад +1

      you break my heart, relaxandsmokemeth :(

    • @No-Lie-I-Want-To-Die
      @No-Lie-I-Want-To-Die Месяц назад

      Should've just made a movie about The Division, Hollywood. Freaking dumbasses.

    • @sambreyer7344
      @sambreyer7344 Месяц назад +5

      @@ipadbossbaby4558 They aren't joining up to form their own country, but to break away from the US together, and then separate. The movie even states that after the conflict they will probably just turn on each other

  • @datwee7576
    @datwee7576 Месяц назад +13

    all I know was when I saw it in IMAX, 4 people had to walk out of the theatere after being progresivly more and more disturbed and the woman behind me screamed and started crying during the Jesse Plemons scene. Not sure what to make of that put if you want to know anything about the movie, it works

  • @joedatius
    @joedatius Месяц назад +18

    When i found out that Texas and California joined forces i got the same shock of bewilderment as i did when in Homefront they tell you North and South Korea joined forced to invade the USA.

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Месяц назад +6

      At least in Homefront, it was more North Korea conquering the South and uniting it under anti-West fascism.

    • @joedatius
      @joedatius Месяц назад

      @@jlev1028 I googled to make sure but the way its worded is even dumber then what i think both of us remember.
      essentially Kim Jong Un took power and... somehow led a PEACEFUL unification of Korea and then just a whole bunch of weird shit like the US just refusing to help defend Japan for no reason. funny stuff

    • @patsagonsaechin3006
      @patsagonsaechin3006 Месяц назад +2

      I don't think they joined because of theirs alignment in ideology. They did it because they happened to have common enemy.

    • @vincememmo9583
      @vincememmo9583 20 дней назад

      @@jlev1028 So basically the same reason they joined forces in Civil War

  • @ASwitchDog
    @ASwitchDog Месяц назад +30

    Civil War? Oh thats what I was watching... I thought it was strange when neither Godzilla nor Kong showed up at all.

  • @Hakman78
    @Hakman78 Месяц назад +13

    Went and saw this on Friday. A family came in late, brought their 3-4 year old into the movie at the exact moment the guy in the tire was being lit on fire and stayed for about 30mins after that then all left. So weird. What an awkward night to the movies

    • @woodjohnn
      @woodjohnn Месяц назад

      Fucking lol! What a waste of money!

  • @San-li9ml
    @San-li9ml Месяц назад +20

    The trailer popped up before this video and I still don't know what it's about

  • @greayworks7232
    @greayworks7232 Месяц назад +52

    It's about a British director who doesn't get how American states work

    • @LeonKlent
      @LeonKlent 29 дней назад +3

      Sorry to brake it too you but there’s no such thing as “British”

    • @kubukoz_
      @kubukoz_ 27 дней назад

      @@LeonKlentmind explaining?

  • @orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS
    @orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS Месяц назад +19

    can’t believe they made a second civil war but it didn’t include huey long jack reed or douglas macarthur.

    • @Sarez____-it4ks
      @Sarez____-it4ks Месяц назад +2

      If Lincoln doesn't show up and say "I'm here to declare war, and act civil and I'm all out of civil" and proceeds to dropckick Ironman I'm not watching it.

  • @matheussanthiago9685
    @matheussanthiago9685 Месяц назад +11

    I'm just glad we have a Brazilian Lead on a Hollywood film

  • @Kyle-td4bh
    @Kyle-td4bh Месяц назад +12

    y'all it's really pretty easy:
    The American Civil War (April 12, 1861 - May 26, 1865; also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States between the Union[e] ("the North") and the Confederacy ("the South"), which had been formed by states that had seceded from the Union. The central conflict leading to the war was the dispute over whether slavery would be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prevented from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a course of ultimate extinction.[17]
    Decades of political controversy over slavery were brought to a head by the victory in the 1860 U.S. presidential election of Abraham Lincoln, who opposed slavery's expansion into the western territories. Seven southern slave states responded to Lincoln's victory by seceding from the United States and forming the Confederacy. The Confederacy seized U.S. forts and other federal assets within their borders. The war began when on April 12, 1861, Confederate troops fired on Fort Sumter in South Carolina's Charleston Harbor. A wave of enthusiasm for war swept over both North and South, as recruitment soared. The states in the undecided border region had to choose sides, although Kentucky declared it was neutral. Four more southern states seceded after the war began and, led by Confederate President Jefferson Davis, the Confederacy asserted control over about a third of the U.S. population in eleven states. Four years of intense combat, mostly in the South, ensued.
    During 1861-1862 in the Western Theater, the Union made significant permanent gains-though in the Eastern Theater the conflict was inconclusive. The abolition of slavery became a Union war goal on January 1, 1863, when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared all slaves in rebel states to be free, which applied to more than 3.5 million of the 4 million enslaved people in the country. To the west, the Union first destroyed the Confederacy's river navy by the summer of 1862, then much of its western armies, and seized New Orleans. The successful 1863 Union siege of Vicksburg split the Confederacy in two at the Mississippi River, while Confederate General Robert E. Lee's incursion north failed at the Battle of Gettysburg. Western successes led to General Ulysses S. Grant's command of all Union armies in 1864. Inflicting an ever-tightening naval blockade of Confederate ports, the Union marshaled resources and manpower to attack the Confederacy from all directions. This led to the fall of Atlanta in 1864 to Union General William Tecumseh Sherman, followed by his March to the Sea. The last significant battles raged around the ten-month Siege of Petersburg, gateway to the Confederate capital of Richmond. The Confederates abandoned Richmond, and on April 9, 1865, Lee surrendered to Grant following the Battle of Appomattox Court House, setting in motion the end of the war. Lincoln lived to see this victory but on April 14, he was assassinated.
    Appomattox is often referred to symbolically as the end of the war, although arguably there are several different dates for the war's conclusion. Lee's surrender to Grant set off a wave of Confederate surrenders-the last military department of the Confederacy, the Department of the Trans-Mississippi disbanded on May 26. By the end of the war, much of the South's infrastructure was destroyed. The Confederacy collapsed, slavery was abolished, and four million enslaved black people were freed. The war-torn nation then entered the Reconstruction era in an attempt to rebuild the country, bring the former Confederate states back into the United States, and grant civil rights to freed slaves.
    The Civil War is one of the most extensively studied and written about episodes in U.S. history. It remains the subject of cultural and historiographical debate. The myth of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy is often the subject of critical analysis. The American Civil War was among the first wars to use industrial warfare. Railroads, the telegraph, steamships, the ironclad warship, and mass-produced weapons were all widely used during the war. In total, the war left between 620,000 and 750,000 soldiers dead, along with an undetermined number of civilian casualties, making the Civil War the deadliest military conflict in American history.[f] The technology and brutality of the Civil War foreshadowed the coming World Wars.

  • @zacharytrevino6321
    @zacharytrevino6321 Месяц назад +8

    It’s about Ron Swanson no longer being a libertarian

  • @galacticboy2009
    @galacticboy2009 Месяц назад +5

    I thought it was great. One of the best war movies of all time.
    The feeling of being someone not involved, but not completely uninvolved, is so perfect.
    Definitely one of the best fictional stories from the perspective of war photographers.
    While sitting in the theater I thought "man, if only the The Last of Us show could've been like this"

  • @alexmanrique2280
    @alexmanrique2280 Месяц назад +5

    It's when captain America is mad at iron man

  • @derpherp1810
    @derpherp1810 Месяц назад +9

    Civil War is about captain american and ironman beating eachother up. At the end of the movie they stop fighting and make out to solve their differences.

  • @TheOblivionMan
    @TheOblivionMan Месяц назад +60

    If I wanted something carefully sanitized of any hint of an actual position on any of the things it's "just asking questions" about, I'd go play literally anything Ubisoft's released in the last ten years.

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller Месяц назад +4

      Bro, Watch Dogs 2 is like a socialist manifesto.

    • @Wyrm3
      @Wyrm3 Месяц назад +15

      ​@@futurestorytelleralmost, kinda. It's more concerned with just hating corpos and big tech than it is allying with any specific ideology, but it's definitely supposed to be vaguely left wing.

    • @hirocheeto7795
      @hirocheeto7795 Месяц назад +14

      @@futurestoryteller Being anti-authoritarian isn't 'socialist.' Is the game vaguely left-ish and progressive? Sure. But it doesn't make any argument about economic or political revolution, just that 'authoritarians are bad and we should fight them.'

    • @billbill6094
      @billbill6094 Месяц назад +12

      ​​@@futurestoryteller WD2 is left leaning for sure but I wouldn't go as far as to say anyone supports any specific ideologies greater than their own groups. They just want to fuck shit up in a big way, it's about fun as much as it is about helping free citizens.

    • @billbill6094
      @billbill6094 Месяц назад +1

      When they turned Sam Fisher from a seen it all skeptic of his country's incessant need to start war to just a guy who helps the war just cuz. Man's decisions used to end wars and free countries and now he's a glorified operator.

  • @KK-ef1ow
    @KK-ef1ow Месяц назад +34

    Say the line Bart!!!!

  • @florinivan6907
    @florinivan6907 Месяц назад +56

    Its about cashing in on societal fears while not engaging with the issues.

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 Месяц назад +6

      I’m guessing you haven’t seen the movie if that’s your take. It’s explicitly a warning not to do this.

    • @florinivan6907
      @florinivan6907 Месяц назад +12

      @@thedapperdolphin1590 There's nothing brave about saying not to do it. Its just about the most middle of the road position.

    • @MrMejia187
      @MrMejia187 Месяц назад

      @@florinivan6907…what movie is brave?

    • @incog.nyto.
      @incog.nyto. Месяц назад +1

      @@florinivan6907 But it's pretty much the approach Garland took: this is a movie about the ethics of journalism, told with the ethics of journalism. It's objective and apolitical. Just like journalism should be. It's pretty meta when you think about it.

    • @ghengis423
      @ghengis423 Месяц назад

      ​@@florinivan6907 then whats the point of any anti-war movie ever? Since we all know war is bad.

  • @janderson6756
    @janderson6756 Месяц назад +9

    As someone who use all two of his yearly trips to the theater to watch GxK back to back, I can confidently say that I have not watched Civil War

    • @ctravis91
      @ctravis91 Месяц назад +1

      Are you sure?

    • @janderson6756
      @janderson6756 Месяц назад +1

      @@ctravis91 I really couldn’t tell you

    • @thesnowmiser6728
      @thesnowmiser6728 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@janderson6756 but you were so confident before...

    • @janderson6756
      @janderson6756 Месяц назад

      @@thesnowmiser6728 stop living in the past

  • @jens2049
    @jens2049 Месяц назад +18

    Somehow its both

  • @wesreleases6346
    @wesreleases6346 Месяц назад +43

    I’ve never been happier to not know what Twitter is saying about a movie.

    • @iPLAYtheSTATION
      @iPLAYtheSTATION Месяц назад +36

      I love not knowing what Twitter says about literally anything.

    • @JackdotC
      @JackdotC Месяц назад +12

      I literally haven't seen anyone talking about this movie, so you might not be missing much

    • @LangstonDev
      @LangstonDev Месяц назад

      ​@@iPLAYtheSTATION u n me both pal

    • @dabunnydabunny1243
      @dabunnydabunny1243 Месяц назад +9

      ​@@iPLAYtheSTATIONFinally deleted my account a few weeks back and it's wild how I almost immediately became 40% less miserable all the time.

    • @MiguelHernandez-lo5lg
      @MiguelHernandez-lo5lg Месяц назад +7

      Life is just objectively better when Twitter isn't involved.

  • @SirAnanas
    @SirAnanas Месяц назад +4

    Just two days later and the civil war discourse looks entirely different (they’re using AI posters now)

  • @Dative420
    @Dative420 Месяц назад +30

    Civil war is about a movie about man carrying civil wars

  • @connormacmillan2803
    @connormacmillan2803 Месяц назад +12

    Maybe the true meaning of Civil War was in our hearts all along.

    • @b.m.933
      @b.m.933 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe the real Civil War was the friends we made along the way.

  • @cristianpiriz7765
    @cristianpiriz7765 Месяц назад +12

    How journalists feel like the victims of wars they refuse to take a side on

    • @thecaptain6520
      @thecaptain6520 Месяц назад

      It really is a "journalism is good" circlejerk

    • @books2438
      @books2438 Месяц назад +4

      … They cannot, if they want to maintain whatever’s left of their integrity, as journalists, they quite literally cannot pick a side. A journalist can’t be involved in politics, at least not openly, at least in a world where journalists still had any respect left

    • @cookieface80
      @cookieface80 Месяц назад +1

      Since when do journalists refuse to pick a side?

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@books2438Tell that to the journalists who followed US soldiers in Vietnam to document how fruitless their involvement was.

    • @books2438
      @books2438 Месяц назад +1

      @@jlev1028 I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to but a war correspondent following one side specifically and reporting their actions isn’t picking a side, it’s just specializing in a field

  • @StickyCat398
    @StickyCat398 Месяц назад +13

    The only bad thing about a civil war now is that Man Carrying Thing's side would win easily as he never misses

  • @aidangordon2713
    @aidangordon2713 Месяц назад +18

    Civil War: truly, the first film that pisses off everyone by appealing to no one. Bravo, Alex Garland-san.

  • @rorysimpson8716
    @rorysimpson8716 Месяц назад +5

    I'm definitely team it takes no risks but wishes to wrap itself in the garb of a very serious thing you should take very seriously even though it says nothing that a hundred different Dbeat bands have said almost exclusively. Warbad warbad warbad warbad.

  • @asoulist4829
    @asoulist4829 Месяц назад +23

    People who make a movie about MLK and Malcom X: This film has nothing to do with race relations.

  • @TurboSax
    @TurboSax Месяц назад +6

    It's about MCU fans vs. Comic Purists.
    "Okay. What KIND of Marvel fan are you?"

  • @jens2049
    @jens2049 Месяц назад

    This is one of your best. Also really great letterboxd review of Civil War

  • @nilzero5686
    @nilzero5686 Месяц назад +29

    love that texas and california team up in civil war
    just the perfect kind of shallow hack writing choice

    • @hippiehillape
      @hippiehillape Месяц назад +10

      You are a meme we laugh at

    • @thatcherfreeman
      @thatcherfreeman Месяц назад +4

      That detail turned out to have nothing to do with the plot of the movie though

    • @JaMeshuggah
      @JaMeshuggah Месяц назад +2

      ​@@thatcherfreemanthen why have it?

    • @shanec9672
      @shanec9672 Месяц назад +11

      I'm going to riff on what another commenter said. Basically, we're all fairly aware of the political leanings of both of those states, so having both of them leading the charge keeps you from assigning a political leaning to the separatists and coloring your perception of what's happening. A friend of mine said the movie isn't about who or why, just the what, and I think that sums it up well.

    • @thatcherfreeman
      @thatcherfreeman Месяц назад +1

      @@JaMeshuggah well obviously to state the setting of a civil war you have to verbally state geographically what the sides are and they presumably picked those two states to be on the same side (though it truthfully didn't matter that much for the plot) so that the movie would be less perceived as being woke or right wing or whatever. It would be hard to watch a movie about a civil war without some statement of who is at war with who else though, so in that view the writers gotta pick a few states.
      The movie isn't about CA and TX vs the rest of the country though. It's about photojournalists watching people being violent and the ethics and challenges of journalism. To complain about that aspect of the movie is like saying Interstellar was implausible because corn is not a water-efficient crop for the farm on that movie's earth environment, when the movie is about space travel, desperation, and a dude's relationship with his family.

  • @ivorkvarantan3031
    @ivorkvarantan3031 Месяц назад +8

    The absolute Civil, he never wars

  • @Stryker-K
    @Stryker-K Месяц назад +2

    "Fear not the man who fights in a bloodthirsty manner
    Fear the the man who is civil during times of war." - Llewellyn Davis

  • @CarpeVerpa
    @CarpeVerpa Месяц назад +10

    What is this video even about? It's called CIVIL WAR!

  • @gnarwhal7562
    @gnarwhal7562 Месяц назад +4

    Lisa Simpson: "Come on, Mom, the theatres just invented this Civil War to make money".

  • @mavericbennings463
    @mavericbennings463 Месяц назад +17

    Man carrying debate

  • @dm-qy3yu
    @dm-qy3yu Месяц назад

    thanks for letting me know of that film site.... i wish i knew about that earlier!

  • @Sidharthavicious
    @Sidharthavicious Месяц назад +2

    They finally made a movie about a Jojo Stand? I was hoping for Soft And Wet.

  • @fintanbochra
    @fintanbochra Месяц назад +57

    Another certified neighborhood classic! 🧙‍♂️

  • @merck__
    @merck__ Месяц назад +11

    Umm, actually its called Sigil War and it's about The Seven Sigil War of the Forgotten Realms.

  • @pierregrubb7323
    @pierregrubb7323 Месяц назад +6

    its about how... we shouldn't fight each other over politics or something idk i havent seen it

  • @chrischatsfacts4483
    @chrischatsfacts4483 Месяц назад +2

    "it's about family, and that's whats so powerful about it."

  • @thepissedoffyetrationalrev2261
    @thepissedoffyetrationalrev2261 Месяц назад +4

    "Truly a civil man carrying a war" *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* "HOW? IT's called 'CIVIL WAR!'"

  • @teddyboucher1848
    @teddyboucher1848 Месяц назад +5

    It was actually very good. But it is more about war journalism than anything else.

  • @WarmWarthog
    @WarmWarthog Месяц назад +3

    It’s about Ron Swanson being the president

  • @meowsicle7463
    @meowsicle7463 Месяц назад +6

    Midsterpiece! A24 has done it again!

  • @cameronharding2878
    @cameronharding2878 Месяц назад +3

    The absolute war! He's never civil!

  • @jlev1028
    @jlev1028 Месяц назад +13

    That's the problem I have with what I've heard about this movie. You can't visualize a modern civil war in the United States without being political. It would be one thing if the movie took place in a fictional country that's meant to be an allegory of the U.S. Kind of like what the Marx Bros. did in Duck Soup (just replace America with Europe). But it wasn't. And by refusing to dive into how our increasing divisiveness and extremism in politics would turn us into 1930s Spain, the movie took the easy way out.

    • @slimerewoods5766
      @slimerewoods5766 Месяц назад

      Except you miss the whole point of the movie by thinking its about the civil war itself.

    • @stellarlight1387
      @stellarlight1387 29 дней назад

      ​@@slimerewoods5766 But if it isn't about the Civil War, why did they call it Civil War!?

    • @mrhonkhonk6116
      @mrhonkhonk6116 28 дней назад

      @@stellarlight1387 to attract people to watch the movie because look how many people are talking about the movie then watch the movie then they saw it's not about civil war but just war civil

  • @kenraves7931
    @kenraves7931 Месяц назад +2

    God it's like that Don't Look Up Movie all over again rofmlap

  • @willows6114
    @willows6114 Месяц назад +1

    I got an ad for Civil War right before this video Lmao

  • @dannydanumba2619
    @dannydanumba2619 27 дней назад +3

    Dawg I vibe with Todd, Godzilla x Kong went hard 🔥

  • @menschman1464
    @menschman1464 Месяц назад +4

    California and Texas alliance
    CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS ALLIANCE

  • @NorthernRealmJackal
    @NorthernRealmJackal Месяц назад +2

    My film studies professor once said "Message is inescapable. Every movie is about something. Except Ghostbusters and Civil War (2024)."

  • @captaincalamity4909
    @captaincalamity4909 Месяц назад +4

    He never accidentally offends me by implying Godzilla X Kong isn't good! The absolute legend!

  • @zeroconnection
    @zeroconnection Месяц назад +5

    "I love the Leader. I mean civil war"

  • @chizorama
    @chizorama Месяц назад +2

    It's about making tacticool fashion statements. Multicam & Elton John sunglasses, ghilles with painted nails & hair, yeet in style...

  • @peterl545
    @peterl545 21 день назад +2

    It's about "passing the guard" from one photo journalist to another. It romanticizes the role of journalists, who in real life, have really lost the trust of the public.

  • @melodynice7938
    @melodynice7938 Месяц назад +3

    Saying someone that something is not about politics, is politics.
    Very smart (2024)

    • @thesnowmiser6728
      @thesnowmiser6728 Месяц назад

      Tonight at 11: Stroke victim types one last comment before passing away

    • @melodynice7938
      @melodynice7938 Месяц назад +1

      wow this war is not civil 😔

    • @LeonKlent
      @LeonKlent 29 дней назад

      Leftard

  • @theodoreonthetheremin8987
    @theodoreonthetheremin8987 Месяц назад +3

    Man Carrying Sovereignty

  • @TabalugaDragon
    @TabalugaDragon Месяц назад +2

    Civil War was pretty good. I liked the interaction between Iron Man and Captain America. It was truly moving what happened there!

  • @joeymedina7115
    @joeymedina7115 Месяц назад +7

    It’s about: muh journalism

    • @LeonKlent
      @LeonKlent 29 дней назад

      No you absolute shill

  • @sylph8005
    @sylph8005 Месяц назад +7

    Civil War (2024) asks the bold question: "What if states formed military alliances and conflicts based solely on arbitrary geological proximity?"

    • @ChickenPizza
      @ChickenPizza Месяц назад +2

      I'm confused. Did you just suggest that rocks can teleport?

    • @thehousecat93
      @thehousecat93 Месяц назад +2

      There is nothing less arbitrary to form alliances or create conflicts than physical proximity. Any ideological relationship is much more arbitrary than “you’re close to me, either you’re my friend or I need to get rid of you”.

    • @incog.nyto.
      @incog.nyto. Месяц назад

      California and Texas are the top 2 states in terms of GDP in the entire USA.

  • @litttlepigboy
    @litttlepigboy 27 дней назад

    jumped a little when you said my name LMFAOOOO bc i still haven't got around to watching civil war yet

  • @freaky_sugar
    @freaky_sugar Месяц назад +22

    If you told me this was a fake movie invented just for this skit, I'd believe you.

  • @ABitOfApplause
    @ABitOfApplause 29 дней назад +1

    IDK why people think this is so hard. I haven't seen it, but it's obviously about what living through a civil war would be like told from the perspectives of war journalist which is its own commentary on the disconnect between watching that kind of coverage about other countries and the feeling it produces seeing it be about the country you live in.

  • @ZodiacBoi42
    @ZodiacBoi42 Месяц назад +5

    Okay but the fact that people are expecting a straightforward film from A24 proves they came for the explosions

  • @justaduck1652
    @justaduck1652 Месяц назад +6

    Civil War seems to be the ultimate Rorschach test of a movie. I loved it, but I’ve also talked to people who thought it was the single worst movie of the year, but their reasons for hating it weren’t even in the movie I watched as far as I could tell

    • @metazoxan2
      @metazoxan2 Месяц назад

      well if you saw it I"m curious. Was it political or not?
      Like does it do some kind of "Left/right is evil and obviously wrong and anyone that sides with them is evil and blah blah blah" or does it avoid taking an IRL side and just have a civial war happen for movie reasons?

    • @thehousecat93
      @thehousecat93 Месяц назад +8

      @@metazoxan2 the movie doesn’t touch on what caused the war. We join in the last week of it, when California/Texas is about to march on DC and Florida is just causing trouble but not really doing anything. We don’t know why everyone wants to leave the US or who started it. It’s barely even “war is bad”, most of the time its stance on war comes off as “war is brutal, but you may need to fight your survival, so it’s reasonable”.

    • @metazoxan2
      @metazoxan2 Месяц назад

      @@thehousecat93 I see. Might check it out on streaming sometime then.

    • @slimerewoods5766
      @slimerewoods5766 Месяц назад

      @@thehousecat93 All we know about the war started is fascism. Ordering strikes on American citizens, third term of presidency, etc.

    • @iamintowater
      @iamintowater Месяц назад

      @@thehousecat93 what makes you think the stance isn't that war is bad? I felt very strongly like that was the message. And they got it across very well, at least to me. We saw brutal violence from different people, often we couldn't even be entirely sure whose side they were on in this conflict. In many cases that violence did not seem justified at all. I'm not saying this to be mad at you, I just disagree with you and would like to understand what makes you think differently than me.