5:55 The one thing I like about this part of the comic is that it shows that he was still scared of Joe Chill, just a little. He hesitated to speak for just a second he even almost spoken like how he does when he's Bruce and not Batman.
I thought it's because he already reveled his identity to him, while on mobius chair. Though he later wiped the specific memory, caused Batman a moment of delay to introduce himself again.
@@SivaChidambaram15 True but he needed to act like Batman because of the other inmates of the Prison, they don't know who he is, Chill might still know but he swore he wouldn't ever tell anyone in fear of his life.
@@Blaze-kf5pp that isn’t even the start, so let’s start with Batman, he has slept with Batgirl, he’s Fiancé is Catwoman and he had a Son (Damian)with Talia and had a relationship with her. Next dick His Adopted son has Dated Batgirl, Slept with Catwoman , Slept with Artemis and Dated and Married Starfire. Next Jason his other Adopted son. him and batgirl have kissed (they have like a at most a 10 year age gap) him and Starfire have kissed (idk if they slept) Artemis and Jason have seated and here’s the funny Part JASON has SLEPT with Talia (who has a SON with Batman who’s is his brother) and His first kiss was with Talia as well after he was resurrected. Your welcome :))
Making Jason go through his trauma again was just CRUEL. I would have never expected him to be in that situation. one of the few times I was shocked by the Joker. I'm glad he's choosing to heal from it rather than lose himself even further. We might see him completely changed in the future.
William samaras definitely. He has Nicholson’s gangster look (confirmed by Jason Fabok) and past (implied in this issue) but Ledger’s methods and tendency not to smile compared to the others. Much more serious. Meanwhile Phoenix Joker is basically a unique take that’s based loosely on the the Comedian.
I was thinking Joker found out his wife had faked her own death and had two police officers tell him a story she died in an accident because she can tell he was starting to lose it so she left to raise their child on her own. And that can be flashback revealing he knows now and visits them occasionally to terrorize them. Him sitting at the table could be him planning how to terrorize them next.
According to the "Gotham" TV series, Joker paints his face with a red smile because that's what his father did to him. I think that Joker draws inspiration from his trauma, leading to him believing that his father was also Joker. But that's just my theory.
I understand what Barbara was saying about Jason shooting a human being. But c'mon, This is the frickin Joker we're talking about. And while he is only *physically* human, that doesn't make him human in general. Joker is a evil psychotic monster.
Some people don't like murder regardless. Even in self-defense situations; let alone a Revenge killing. Some think Buddhists are peaceful people, but looking into Jainism.
@@kamron_thurmond I know what you mean. But if if you was put in a situation like that. Then would you at least feel some relief that a horrible person like the Joker has put out of his misery.
@@raven3067 Oh, I'm not talking about myself when referring to people don't think murder is ever okay. I believe that repeat violent offenders should be removed from society permanently, and support self defense, castle doctrine, and stand your ground laws. That being said. I don't want the Joker to die DC would not be the same without the Joker.
That's because it's such a dogshit opinion that is only there to justify Joker not being dead and telling kids that killing is bad. Any one that goes out of his way to help people would simply kill Joker but comics aren't known for nuance.
5:58 - You missed the most important part. As Batman walks to Joe Chill’s cell, Black Gate inmates like Rupert Thorne and Dr. Phosphorus shrink away in fear. But when he comes to Joe Chill’s cell, Batman has to steady himself, clear his throat, and force himself to speak up to the man dying of cancer who murdered his parents!
I thought it's because he already reveled his identity to him, while on mobius chair. Though he later wiped the specific memory, caused Batman a moment of delay to introduce himself again.
Sivachidambaram G I don’t think that is the case here, based on them showing Dr. Phosphorus and Rupert Thorne being afraid of Batman, then Batman flashing back to his parents murder in Crime Alley, then he has to take a moment to compose himself before talking to his parents killer. It is superb story telling and great at showing a natural scarring fear of the man who killed his parents no matter what he has faced and what he has become in just a few panels.
bruh they don't even have his real name. some people said jack nappier, while the film said arthur fleck but honestly in the main continuity we still don't know man. when lex luthor built a machine that was used to figure out his name the results were the three jokers being a thing
It’s crazy how each joker has affected the bat family members that are helping him in a different way. Maybe batgirl will kill one too. The gangster first encountered Batman. The comedian disabled batgirl. And red hood was affected by the other joker
10:10 It would’ve been better if they just hugged, like someone comforting someone who’s been through trauma. But no, they have to make them kiss and put the shippers on a wild goose chase.
😂 they aren’t shipping each other, it’s a traumatic moment and about them healing, she already stated it was just a one time thing, and Jason always had a thing for her, I think it’s a kiss to show that she cares, to comfort him. Not everything has to be romantic.
@@ravengenavia1933 Dick and Starfire ended their relationship in the comics for quite some time, it was pre-52, but there was an incident where they were taken over by an embodiment of lust and the two realized that their relationship was more about lust then love. Barbara is his official comic book girlfriend.
Hey as long as Jason gets to have sex with Barbara by the end all of this is good for me. I mean, they don't have to fall in love with each other, just the sex like you know, friends with benefits.
Rushing things, or actually revealing who The Joker is. This better be just one long swerve, or give us a false ending. Show us a “true identity” that in a few months or weeks Bats realizes in false.
I have a strong feeling that if Jason wasn't found by Talia and found by a member of the Batfamily, he would be entirely different than his is now. Barbara kept everything from when she was recovering so that she can be reminded that she is stronger than what was done to her. Jason was turned into a weapon for Talia to use in her personal battle with Bruce. If he had the support system Barbara had, Jason would be so different. I am hoping Jason gets some love from her his family and the peace he needs.
@@bonzaiboi_ Yeah i think thats where he should go. Since hes more detective and the brains of the operation. He might also clean up the department and secure arkham aslyum.
Wow a lot of interesting things here. Batman understanding why Jason killed Joker. Barbara sympathizing with Jason. And Jason using the Red Hood as a joke and coming back stronger. This was well done
@@abdulwase5681 It's not even cannon, but I think Raven would be great for someone like Jason 🤷🏾♀️. She's the type to "give and heal". I always liked her with BB, however she helped Damian's character growth so much in DCAU people that hated him liked him at the end lol. I think she's best with these type of guys.
@@JustAChinesePleb i remember a comic where Jason beat the titans (used electrocution on beast boy and cyborg) but just put Raven to sleep and said 'I wish she has a nice dream for once' something like that. It was sweet actually. I can get behind the idea of these two.
Tbh, sometimes we gotta break our own rules, morals and boundaries to find peace, or at least to fulfill our resentment. Like Jason, i cant really blame him for killing
What happens if Jason is a darkmultiverse Red Hood turn Joker or another multiversal being that is a darker version of himself.....and yeh Jason got that Mr.Steal your gurl vibez in that room with Barbara.
I’d be ok with the steak ur girl cuz I want sick to get with star fire. Babs and dick is probably my least favorite romance for him. I’d prefer any of his other interests over her
Thanks for giving that tidbit about this being 5 years of waiting. I thought I already saw ads of this years back and just reading on it this year. Felt like I'm having some seriously bad case of dejavu.
Great commentary as always guys. I follow three other channels who have also broken down this story arc period but I always appreciate you guys perspective.
I'd love to see Barbara become the new Joker. It's hinted that they want someone stronger than RH. She was able to make full recovery while he is still broken.
Omg they actually returned Batgirl to normal?? Finally, thats the best batgirl suit, i hated that child like purple jumper they had her wearing. This one was way cooler in design.
@@nikunjdixit1175 I get what you're saying about Barbara being treated by DC as the Batfamily slut, but I actually think that she and Red Hood would be a good match. She worked through her problems (granted, with a retconned back surgery) and healed while still dealing with unresolved anger, while Jason is in need of healing himself to become a better person. It may be a bit off balance here, but I can see them having a Beauty and the Beast type of thing.
James Tolbert Then she can work better as a friend. Becoming a therapist for all his issues does not constitute as a good relationship at all. Might be good for Jason, would be horrible for Barbara.
@@nikunjdixit1175 That's true, but they do have their traumas with the Joker in common, so at least they'd both have someone who understands. Idk, maybe it's just my Dick/Starfire bias.
I feel like these three Jokers are basically modeled after combinations of the ones from the movies and TV. The Comedian - Hamil and Ledger The Criminal - Nicholson and Phyenix And The Clown is straight up Hamil and Romero.
I know there’s three Jokers. But what about a fourth joker in secrecy? As in these three jokers in these three issues but the fourth joker in main continuity in the current Batman run.
Absolutely LOVE this channel, this guy makes comics too flippin Amazing n Awesome even though they already are but still 😁😁😁. These videos are too Great!!!
To me there is poetry in Joe Chill just being a robber, who happened to kill Bruce's parents. To make it part of some conspiracy is... a terrible idea, at least that's what I think. As always, thank you so very much for your video.
@Abdirahman Khador Abdulle she's unlike any other character. She's in control, focused and she's good to everyone no matter how they are. So yes, I enjoy her scenes
Nathan Nix I mean I don’t blame her, she is traumatized and Jason took advantage of her, by saying she wanted it to happen, took advantage of her emotional breakdown, she has a ptsd and got angry, Batman response to her was shocking as he was a good dad for once. I think it’s an interesting emotional trauma, everyone has their own horrors.
Mereng Sanjana You act like if you had a gun you would have killed him, some people just don’t like murder and rather see justice cuz killing someone scars people forever. So she doesn’t want to have that side of her be explored, I don’t see how’s that’s difficult to understand.
When batman went ahem at joe chills cell it just shows you that deep deep down batman is still scared of him it still makes him feel like little Bruce Wayne even now as batman
To be honest, Jason would be a miles better love interest than Dick for Barbara. Not because of like personalities, History together or whatever, but because it offers *A LOT* more writing Material. Jason and Barbara, as established in this Comic, are 2 sides of the same coin. Both scarred and traumatized by the Joker, but each one came out different. Barbara went on to keep follow Batman‘s code and became a better Hero because of it. Jason went on to follow his own beliefs and became a ruthless and unpredictable Killer. And because of that, both would perfectly balance each other out in stories. Barbara would be that glimmer of light in Jason‘s dark path that always tries to bring him back to the right track. The only string left in Jason‘s life that still connects him to the Bat Family, not completely abandoning them. Whilst Jason would at the same time try to show Barbara that the rules she follows only hinder her and if she would come with him, they both could truly safe Gotham in a way Batman never could. No rules where she wouldn‘t have to hold back anymore. Barbara would see that last bit of Hope in Jason that is still left. That least bit of Hope she refuses to let go and she knows she has to fight trough a lot of Darkness until she reaches that Hope. A perfect couple that dances on the concept of Good & Bad. And i know a *LOT* of people enjoy Dick with Barbara, but on a story and writers perspective, what are these 2 to each other? They are long time friends and crime fighting partners. I mean, that‘s the entire relationship between them and neither of them truly contributes to one another in a way that is with like Batman & Catwoman, Hulk & Betty Ross (not really the She-Rulk version) or Constantine and Zatanna. That‘s why Dick and Kori are only better by a bit since, again, they only contribute to one another as team member and the only true thing that makes their relationship intersting is that Kori is an Alien.
Couldn't explain it better than myself. I was looking for this and I do think as well Jason and Barbara would be a perfect couple like fire and water or ying/yang.
@@SUPERkingvs I saw a comment like this about Raven, which I would prefer tbh. I like her with guys like Damian and Jason. She's not judgemental (unlike Barbara) and not hypocritical (unlike Barbara). She's a very "healing" character.
I don't read comics much, but I'm with you there. I can already see their relationship thing being what causes Jason to snap become The Joker, or something like that. I get that relationships are complicated things, and I don't know what Nightwing's been up to in recent comics, but I really wish the writers just choose a Robin and stick with it for a while (especially if it's Nightwing).
I'm so done with everyone hurting Jason. First, the Joker, then Batman and now all the shit he gets from the rest of the bat family; enough, man! Give Jason something other than pain and sorrow for once please
I'm not very well versed in comics can someone help me out? From what I understand one joker is from the golden age one is from the silver and one from the bronze. Which is which? And which is the killing joke joker?
@@rodchedomingo2089 I would not really say the Criminal is the Bronze age Joker as in the Golden age he was a criminal with little interest in the Batman at first while the Clown is the brutal murderer that can't stop smiling and laugh. Golden age Joker didn't laugh nearly as much as Silver and Bronze, like the Criminal, so I really don't think the Criminal is likely the Bronze age Joker but rather the Golden age.
@@reubenthawmte8504 That's the point.- He's the extremely intelligent, pure evil, criminal mastermind Joker. So it makes sense for him to be a bit more- Cold?-
@@reubenthawmte8504 I get what you're saying but he's the one in charge of the three jokers. He's a criminal master mind so he would be cold and calculative. He also has a medical condition which gives him intense pain when he laughs, that could explain why we don't see him smile much.
The visuals and dialogue used in this issue are SOOO chilling! The opening sequence the Joker is imagining, the Jokerised bodies in the pool, Jason being beaten as he was before but now wearing his Red Hood helmet with a SMILE painted on it! Johns and Fabok are awesome! Also, THAT CLIFFHANGER! Can't wait til Issue 3. Hope it delivers as Doomsday Clock did. Side note, when is this set, cause Alfred is alive in this, seemingly not in a vision or anything?
No, he doesn't, even though I love joker and the latest stories, it has been getting kinda repetitive with the joker being the main villain again and again, it would be nice if they change it up once in a while
I get where you're coming from, he's becoming progressively more dark and sadistic instead of poking fun at Bruce to find a crack in his philosophy. It seems the problem is that they're trying to expand his character so he doesn't become generic,but part of the reason he's liked is because he's ambiguous
It’s awesome. What’s bad about this? It’s interesting that they are exploring the trauma of these three characters that got heavily effected by Joker and we are seeing the aftermath of it. It’s horrific and sadistic, they are making a realistic narrative comic. I love it.
Frrs, shit she only got shot/paralyzed while got brutally beaten then was Killed in a explosion so yeah I think Jason deserves his payback which good for him
Love and hate tend to be two sides of the same coin to the Joker. But really despite a lot of popular modern interpretations the Joker has stated he hated Batman and/or has actually tried to kill him, countless times in their 80 year history. This is the original Joker (1940) who had no weird love-hate relationship, just hate. So it makes sense. Meanwhile in the Killing Joke, he kind of hates Batman there too as well as love him. It's complicated.
N yeah pretty much. The Criminal is ripped straight from Batman #1, his first appearance in 1940. Both his covers are based on panels from there. This Joker wasn’t goofy, he didn’t pull pranks or tell jokes. He was a criminal mastermind who challenges Batman (and Robin) to stop his crimes, which were mainly killing and stealing things. The main reason he’s called the Joker besides his face, is because of the playing card. He likes to leave it in his crimes and even use it to kill people. He also messed with gangsters a lot. Like in The Dark Knight.
@@huangrenjun2134 2 my knowledge it hadn’t been released yet and where U can buy it at is comic book place’s and if U live in Missouri City or any were there is a bed rock city store that’s were U can buy it there and if the don’t have it in stores check online.
Whyyyy did they kiss? That was honestly unnecessary, and gross. It would've been much more mature, telling, and better, more original writing, if they just hugged.
@@bdboricua3128 Lmao I knew someone like you was gonna comment something childish like that. Sit down and read a comic, kid. Learn something about these characters.
So if they are hunting down potential Joker candidates, Joe Chill has to be the next one. He has cancer, so it might hurt when he laughs. Killing the Uber wealthy Waynes could have been his idea of a twisted Joke...
Honestly at this stage the only member of the bat family with good morals is Jason Todd. I mean the joker has killed thousands of innocent people yet they are actually upset about his death and didn’t want him killed, as if they would’ve been happier for him to survive and go on killing. Their black and white attitude to murder is so infuriating for these apparent heroes that they will view the murder of a serial killer and the deaths of thousands of innocents as the same thing
Doctor Phosphorus's cell reads 0197705 which means May 1977 although the 19 doesn’t match up with his first appearance in Detective Comics #469 but Joe Chill's cell reads 0331939 which is Detective Comics #33 1939 which was his first appearance
We finally see Joker dogs after seeing Joker fish, cats, squirrels, and all that other nonsense children shouldn't even be seeing. And now Jokerized people acting like zombies? Wow, do they keep making the Joker more and more like a horror character. And I'm a tad annoyed how Barbara is so vengeful towards Jason killing one of the Jokers even if she got crippled by one of them. Sometimes, a line has to be drawn to save lives whether it's right or wrong depending on the character. Just like how the DC heroes have given Wonder Woman a pass for killing Max Lord or whenever Aquaman goes on an ecological rampage on the surface world.
What lives? Joker was handcuffed, and Red hood killed him cold blooded cuz he didn’t like what he said about him and what him feel 😂. Joker beat him again and made him kill and pull the trigger that’s what the joker wants, to make him and Batman suffer since killing is what Batman is against and Barbra knows that’s what he wants, it doesn’t go away by just killing someone, it’s a lot more complicated than that. That’s why Batman doesn’t kill, if he did, he will never be the same again, he will be lost like Red hood, and the fact Red hood used that against Barbra upsets her and made it seem like she was part of the murder using her trauma which upsets her, as Batman said in the comic “I wish Red Hood turned out like you” Barbra came out of it strong after what Joker did to her, she didn’t go down that dark path like red hood and Barbra doesn’t want to lose herself and what she stands for, and that is justice and not giving away what she believes in. She was upset by red hood actions and dragging her to it. She’s traumatic and was emotional, Jason took away what she was finding strength from, what drives her to be good and better. You people need to use your brain for once not everything is simple and straight forward, it’s a human being. Violence is never the answer.
Didnt they make mention before the Darkseid War about the laughing man being immortal or something, about him having an impure strain of the Lazurus Pit in his spinal fluid?
5:55 The one thing I like about this part of the comic is that it shows that he was still scared of Joe Chill, just a little. He hesitated to speak for just a second he even almost spoken like how he does when he's Bruce and not Batman.
I thought it's because he already reveled his identity to him, while on mobius chair. Though he later wiped the specific memory, caused Batman a moment of delay to introduce himself again.
@@SivaChidambaram15 True but he needed to act like Batman because of the other inmates of the Prison, they don't know who he is, Chill might still know but he swore he wouldn't ever tell anyone in fear of his life.
"Dick is going to be pissed!"
Dick : Dude have you seen Starfire?
im so confused with the comic batman series all i know is
batman lego=batman+batgirl
teen titan=this
imma stick with marvel
@@Blaze-kf5pp its kinda confusing but not much really this guy explains alot of stuff good
@@Blaze-kf5pp that isn’t even the start, so let’s start with Batman, he has slept with Batgirl, he’s Fiancé is Catwoman and he had a Son (Damian)with Talia and had a relationship with her. Next dick His Adopted son has Dated Batgirl, Slept with Catwoman , Slept with Artemis and Dated and Married Starfire. Next Jason his other Adopted son. him and batgirl have kissed (they have like a at most a 10 year age gap) him and Starfire have kissed (idk if they slept) Artemis and Jason have seated and here’s the funny Part JASON has SLEPT with Talia (who has a SON with Batman who’s is his brother) and His first kiss was with Talia as well after he was resurrected. Your welcome :))
Oh AND he might have been UNDERAGED when Him and Talia first Kissed
@@__-lh8lb uhhh thx ? i mean sure
Making Jason go through his trauma again was just CRUEL. I would have never expected him to be in that situation. one of the few times I was shocked by the Joker. I'm glad he's choosing to heal from it rather than lose himself even further. We might see him completely changed in the future.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
I don't know it could still turn for the worst.
@@kamron_thurmond I feel like that's what the writers are anticipating people to expect. So with any luck, they'll subvert that expectation.
@@kamron_thurmond true, I mean book 2 subverted all our expectations, book 3 could blow our minds
Wait what happen?
They took a page out of Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker for the criminal as it physically hurts him to laugh. Very Interesting.
Phoenix’s joker is hardly the first to be in pain from laughing but he is the first to have his “laugh” be out of his control
I feel like the criminal is more a reflection of Heath Ledger
William samaras definitely. He has Nicholson’s gangster look (confirmed by Jason Fabok) and past (implied in this issue) but Ledger’s methods and tendency not to smile compared to the others. Much more serious.
Meanwhile Phoenix Joker is basically a unique take that’s based loosely on the the Comedian.
Nah, he said that same line in Under the Red Hood.
That line in Under the Red Hood was because he had been badly hurt and beaten by Jason anyway. Generally speaking that’s not the case
So, the Joker who daydreamed of his wife and unborn son, were they scared of him because he knows they'd hate what he's become?
I'm thinking that Joker might have been the little boy. And The Joker might have acting as his own father. Maybe another origin for that Joker?
Part of what’s so good about this comic is that we have absolutely no clue, which is great
I was thinking Joker found out his wife had faked her own death and had two police officers tell him a story she died in an accident because she can tell he was starting to lose it so she left to raise their child on her own. And that can be flashback revealing he knows now and visits them occasionally to terrorize them. Him sitting at the table could be him planning how to terrorize them next.
According to the "Gotham" TV series, Joker paints his face with a red smile because that's what his father did to him. I think that Joker draws inspiration from his trauma, leading to him believing that his father was also Joker. But that's just my theory.
@The Movie Basher What?
I understand what Barbara was saying about Jason shooting a human being. But c'mon, This is the frickin Joker we're talking about. And while he is only *physically* human, that doesn't make him human in general. Joker is a evil psychotic monster.
Some people don't like murder regardless. Even in self-defense situations; let alone a Revenge killing.
Some think Buddhists are peaceful people, but looking into Jainism.
@@kamron_thurmond I know what you mean. But if if you was put in a situation like that. Then would you at least feel some relief that a horrible person like the Joker has put out of his misery.
@@raven3067 Oh, I'm not talking about myself when referring to people don't think murder is ever okay. I believe that repeat violent offenders should be removed from society permanently, and support self defense, castle doctrine, and stand your ground laws.
That being said. I don't want the Joker to die DC would not be the same without the Joker.
@@kamron_thurmond ok that makes sense.
That's because it's such a dogshit opinion that is only there to justify Joker not being dead and telling kids that killing is bad. Any one that goes out of his way to help people would simply kill Joker but comics aren't known for nuance.
5:58 - You missed the most important part. As Batman walks to Joe Chill’s cell, Black Gate inmates like Rupert Thorne and Dr. Phosphorus shrink away in fear. But when he comes to Joe Chill’s cell, Batman has to steady himself, clear his throat, and force himself to speak up to the man dying of cancer who murdered his parents!
That's a very good character moment. Thanks for sharing that.
I thought it's because he already reveled his identity to him, while on mobius chair. Though he later wiped the specific memory, caused Batman a moment of delay to introduce himself again.
Sivachidambaram G I don’t think that is the case here, based on them showing Dr. Phosphorus and Rupert Thorne being afraid of Batman, then Batman flashing back to his parents murder in Crime Alley, then he has to take a moment to compose himself before talking to his parents killer. It is superb story telling and great at showing a natural scarring fear of the man who killed his parents no matter what he has faced and what he has become in just a few panels.
Joker has been a character for so many decades and we still don't know his true identity. Time will end before we find out who joker is
+unknown seizure
#FACTS
unknown seizure I kinda want to know what his true identity is but at the same time I don’t
@@cosmeticmotion1697
Same here.
bruh they don't even have his real name. some people said jack nappier, while the film said arthur fleck but honestly in the main continuity we still don't know man. when lex luthor built a machine that was used to figure out his name the results were the three jokers being a thing
It's incredible that he's arguably the most iconic villian ever and we don't even know his name.
It’s crazy how each joker has affected the bat family members that are helping him in a different way. Maybe batgirl will kill one too. The gangster first encountered Batman. The comedian disabled batgirl. And red hood was affected by the other joker
10:10 It would’ve been better if they just hugged, like someone comforting someone who’s been through trauma. But no, they have to make them kiss and put the shippers on a wild goose chase.
"Dick gon be pissed"
Wait i thought dick liked starfire
Also, why do everyone in the bat family have atleast one girl. ONE!
😂 they aren’t shipping each other, it’s a traumatic moment and about them healing, she already stated it was just a one time thing, and Jason always had a thing for her, I think it’s a kiss to show that she cares, to comfort him. Not everything has to be romantic.
@@ravengenavia1933 Dick and Starfire ended their relationship in the comics for quite some time, it was pre-52, but there was an incident where they were taken over by an embodiment of lust and the two realized that their relationship was more about lust then love. Barbara is his official comic book girlfriend.
Hey as long as Jason gets to have sex with Barbara by the end all of this is good for me. I mean, they don't have to fall in love with each other, just the sex like you know, friends with benefits.
@@thejackdaw3945
Time to use that red hood
I'm loving the series so far. I just hope Geff doesn't rush things in the end.
Rushing things, or actually revealing who The Joker is. This better be just one long swerve, or give us a false ending. Show us a “true identity” that in a few months or weeks Bats realizes in false.
Ma namme Jeff.
Seeing Jason tied up like that had me in my feels man
As soon as we saw that panel we all knew what was going on
Clearly you’re not old enough to have called the original 1-900 number. Still can’t believe we lost that vote.
It hurts to see him dealing with a crowbar to his head again... 😢
Rodche Domingo at least this time he had a helmet on and he wasn’t getting hit because fans wanted it
Heart or wang?
I have a strong feeling that if Jason wasn't found by Talia and found by a member of the Batfamily, he would be entirely different than his is now. Barbara kept everything from when she was recovering so that she can be reminded that she is stronger than what was done to her. Jason was turned into a weapon for Talia to use in her personal battle with Bruce. If he had the support system Barbara had, Jason would be so different. I am hoping Jason gets some love from her his family and the peace he needs.
They treat jason like garbage and he deserves better than The batcult.
@@Shadow666_ I completely agree
So true ) acroding to google Bruce was 25 when he adopted Jason
@@jerryswrd1262 when batman was 25 he adopted nightwing and when batman was 29 he adopted Jason
Oh he’s definitely getting some from Barb if dick doesn’t show up lol
I think it should've been called breaking red
thats badass
Jason is already broken IMO.
@@preretconbeyonder7700 yeah being killed sometimes does that you...
How is your boyfriend doing, putin?
Red hood becomes the new joker,nightwing becomes the new batman,Batgirl becomes catwoman...I said it
Damien becomes the new Ras.
Tim becomes the new commissioner
Don't forget Ace becomes the new man bat lol
Charziken909 yooooo Tim as the new commissioner would be so dope
@@bonzaiboi_
Yeah i think thats where he should go.
Since hes more detective and the brains of the operation.
He might also clean up the department and secure arkham aslyum.
What about Cass being the new Lady Shiva?
Wow a lot of interesting things here.
Batman understanding why Jason killed Joker.
Barbara sympathizing with Jason.
And Jason using the Red Hood as a joke and coming back stronger.
This was well done
Indeed
It's kind of sad is red hood becomes a joker....the person who has given him so much pain and misery is going to turn him into him
The “before batman i ran gotham” statement gave me hope about phoenix’s joker and pattinson’s batman fitting logically into a movie
Yeah he's hallucinating about the wife & baby he lost from Killing Joke
I hope Jason heals we need Red Hood besides he already suffered by the hands of the Joker enough is enough
I prefer Jason and Artemis.
That is seeing progress like a high school romance manga
@@afterbitenero3408 I personally prefer Jason x Barbara rather than artemis
@@abdulwase5681 It's not even cannon, but I think Raven would be great for someone like Jason 🤷🏾♀️. She's the type to "give and heal". I always liked her with BB, however she helped Damian's character growth so much in DCAU people that hated him liked him at the end lol.
I think she's best with these type of guys.
@@JustAChinesePleb i remember a comic where Jason beat the titans (used electrocution on beast boy and cyborg) but just put Raven to sleep and said 'I wish she has a nice dream for once' something like that.
It was sweet actually. I can get behind the idea of these two.
H3ll yeah!
9:10 I love how in this panel of the comic the blood that's on the floor and on batmans cape is in the shape of a smile
Good eye
Tbh, sometimes we gotta break our own rules, morals and boundaries to find peace, or at least to fulfill our resentment. Like Jason, i cant really blame him for killing
This series is F'N amazing! It really takes me back to when I was ready them as a kid.
If Joe Chill becomes a Joker by the end of this, I'LL LITERALLY EXPLODE
Yes but ill rip all of this series if they made red hood become the joker idk why but i dont think ill enjoy that
It would be to easy and obvious, when Joker's main thing is unpredictability
I love your October intros! The familiar jingle with the Joker's iconic laugh? Perfect!
What happens if Jason is a darkmultiverse Red Hood turn Joker or another multiversal being that is a darker version of himself.....and yeh Jason got that Mr.Steal your gurl vibez in that room with Barbara.
I’d be ok with the steak ur girl cuz I want sick to get with star fire. Babs and dick is probably my least favorite romance for him. I’d prefer any of his other interests over her
Nah Barbara said it was a one time thing nothing more.
A good one time thing for a writer to put in and make a relationship nuke for Dick to find out. Content nuke bat family edition.
Thanks for giving that tidbit about this being 5 years of waiting. I thought I already saw ads of this years back and just reading on it this year. Felt like I'm having some seriously bad case of dejavu.
I love the "Red Hood" helmet with THE JOKER smile
u did reel good w/ these summaries. ty.
btw, comedian joker beating todd w/ crowbar is hilarious.
My god the art is so freaking good...
You are a life saver, truly! Thank you for all of this, you don't get the respect you deserve 😎
Can you do history of Alfred Pennyworth, Batwing, Flame Bird, Batwoman, Azrael, Signal(Duke Thomas), Bluebird, Stephanie Brown and Carrie Kelly?
Great commentary as always guys. I follow three other channels who have also broken down this story arc period but I always appreciate you guys perspective.
I'd love to see Barbara become the new Joker. It's hinted that they want someone stronger than RH. She was able to make full recovery while he is still broken.
I'm loving this storyline. I love the idea that there have always been 3 Jokers. "If I have to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice"
Omg they actually returned Batgirl to normal??
Finally, thats the best batgirl suit, i hated that child like purple jumper they had her wearing. This one was way cooler in design.
The newest Batgirl Rebirth suit is pretty dope, though. It's designed by Sean-Gordon Murphy (creator of Batman; White Knight).
That Red Hood mask with a smile works wayyyy to well, Like his normal mask almost looks incomplete
I always like the thought of Jason and Barbara being together they have been through so much they deserve each other
Ya i like star fiar and dick better than babra and dick too so it works out
makes me cringe like hell. Why is it that Barbara is someone the writers feel the need to pass around from one male Bat family member to another.
@@nikunjdixit1175 I get what you're saying about Barbara being treated by DC as the Batfamily slut, but I actually think that she and Red Hood would be a good match. She worked through her problems (granted, with a retconned back surgery) and healed while still dealing with unresolved anger, while Jason is in need of healing himself to become a better person. It may be a bit off balance here, but I can see them having a Beauty and the Beast type of thing.
James Tolbert Then she can work better as a friend. Becoming a therapist for all his issues does not constitute as a good relationship at all. Might be good for Jason, would be horrible for Barbara.
@@nikunjdixit1175 That's true, but they do have their traumas with the Joker in common, so at least they'd both have someone who understands. Idk, maybe it's just my Dick/Starfire bias.
This really is a amazing comic, I love this and this needs to be an animated film!
Man i just love these vid of yours bro
Wholesome comment
@@maxsligh3197 well i just love videos about super heros and villains Marvel or Dc
Bravo, excellent storytelling Arris! I love the three jokers issue. I can't wait for issue 3. Great illustrations and storytelling.
Man, I love the references. Also the flashbacks that takes you all the way to the “Death In The Family” from very long years ago. 🤪
Love this story hope they keep it like this
Tbh this is one of my favorite comic series out there
I feel like these three Jokers are basically modeled after combinations of the ones from the movies and TV.
The Comedian - Hamil and Ledger
The Criminal - Nicholson and Phyenix
And The Clown is straight up Hamil and Romero.
I know there’s three Jokers. But what about a fourth joker in secrecy? As in these three jokers in these three issues but the fourth joker in main continuity in the current Batman run.
I kept thinking that
Where is new 52 joker from endgame ??
Getting better and better
I love how fabok draws the batfam. Specially barb.
Absolutely LOVE this channel, this guy makes comics too flippin Amazing n Awesome even though they already are but still 😁😁😁. These videos are too Great!!!
To me there is poetry in Joe Chill just being a robber, who happened to kill Bruce's parents. To make it part of some conspiracy is... a terrible idea, at least that's what I think.
As always, thank you so very much for your video.
Totally agree with you. Any alteration to that should only be kept in Elseworlds stories.
Lol like Gotham? Great show but I was thinking the same thing when they dragged that plotline out.
I love how he changes his shirt to match the video title
I'm loving it, mostly because of the character of Barbara.
@Abdirahman Khador Abdulle she's unlike any other character. She's in control, focused and she's good to everyone no matter how they are. So yes, I enjoy her scenes
@Abdirahman Khador Abdulle She annoys you because of what? So far she’s the best character in this series.
Abdirahman Khador Abdulle her getting on Jason’s case and trying to get Batman to arrest him for killing joker annoyed me too.
Simp
Nathan Nix I mean I don’t blame her, she is traumatized and Jason took advantage of her, by saying she wanted it to happen, took advantage of her emotional breakdown, she has a ptsd and got angry, Batman response to her was shocking as he was a good dad for once. I think it’s an interesting emotional trauma, everyone has their own horrors.
Ahh you redid the video! I was getting major deja vu vibes😅😂
I'm totally on Red Hood's side here. Joker was a douche to Jason and he got what he f*cking deserved.
And batman wasn't against it for once
Murrayyy....
Douche is an understatement lol
@@hakr4751 Batgirl is taking Batman's place here with that obsession of the moral code.
Mereng Sanjana You act like if you had a gun you would have killed him, some people just don’t like murder and rather see justice cuz killing someone scars people forever. So she doesn’t want to have that side of her be explored, I don’t see how’s that’s difficult to understand.
When batman went ahem at joe chills cell it just shows you that deep deep down batman is still scared of him it still makes him feel like little Bruce Wayne even now as batman
Do you think that they are going to make Jason Todd a Joker, to justify making Jared Leto's Joker in the DCEU a former Robin?
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To be honest, Jason would be a miles better love interest than Dick for Barbara. Not because of like personalities, History together or whatever, but because it offers *A LOT* more writing Material.
Jason and Barbara, as established in this Comic, are 2 sides of the same coin. Both scarred and traumatized by the Joker, but each one came out different. Barbara went on to keep follow Batman‘s code and became a better Hero because of it. Jason went on to follow his own beliefs and became a ruthless and unpredictable Killer. And because of that, both would perfectly balance each other out in stories.
Barbara would be that glimmer of light in Jason‘s dark path that always tries to bring him back to the right track. The only string left in Jason‘s life that still connects him to the Bat Family, not completely abandoning them. Whilst Jason would at the same time try to show Barbara that the rules she follows only hinder her and if she would come with him, they both could truly safe Gotham in a way Batman never could. No rules where she wouldn‘t have to hold back anymore. Barbara would see that last bit of Hope in Jason that is still left. That least bit of Hope she refuses to let go and she knows she has to fight trough a lot of Darkness until she reaches that Hope. A perfect couple that dances on the concept of Good & Bad.
And i know a *LOT* of people enjoy Dick with Barbara, but on a story and writers perspective, what are these 2 to each other? They are long time friends and crime fighting partners. I mean, that‘s the entire relationship between them and neither of them truly contributes to one another in a way that is with like Batman & Catwoman, Hulk & Betty Ross (not really the She-Rulk version) or Constantine and Zatanna. That‘s why Dick and Kori are only better by a bit since, again, they only contribute to one another as team member and the only true thing that makes their relationship intersting is that Kori is an Alien.
Couldn't explain it better than myself. I was looking for this and I do think as well Jason and Barbara would be a perfect couple like fire and water or ying/yang.
@@SUPERkingvs I saw a comment like this about Raven, which I would prefer tbh. I like her with guys like Damian and Jason. She's not judgemental (unlike Barbara) and not hypocritical (unlike Barbara).
She's a very "healing" character.
Loving this series! And love the commentary Arris! Always hyped when Variant drops a new video.
After I read it, as a Nightwing fan, I... wasn't a fan, persay, of that scene with Jason and Babs...
I was looking for this
Maybe, deep down they believe Starfire to always have been Nightwing's endgame.
Lol
I don't read comics much, but I'm with you there. I can already see their relationship thing being what causes Jason to snap become The Joker, or something like that.
I get that relationships are complicated things, and I don't know what Nightwing's been up to in recent comics, but I really wish the writers just choose a Robin and stick with it for a while (especially if it's Nightwing).
@@ReaverPrime dude, This is comics. There is no endgame
How much i have to wait for the next issue? I WAIT FIVE YEARS...I CANT WAIT MORE.
I'm so done with everyone hurting Jason. First, the Joker, then Batman and now all the shit he gets from the rest of the bat family; enough, man!
Give Jason something other than pain and sorrow for once please
Artemis was the best part of his life, i just wish they'd kept them dating cause they're great for each other.
@@geranball9678 Buuutttt.... we can't have nice things so DC will probably not continue that.
8:07 oh my god the criminal looks amazing in this frame
I'm not very well versed in comics can someone help me out? From what I understand one joker is from the golden age one is from the silver and one from the bronze. Which is which? And which is the killing joke joker?
Basically in my opinion:
Golden Age - The Clown Joker - Red Hood
Silver Age - The Comedian Joker - Batgirl
Bronze Age - The Criminal Joker - Batman
Golden Age - The Criminal.
Silver Age - The Comedian
Bronze Age - The Clown
@@rodchedomingo2089 I would not really say the Criminal is the Bronze age Joker as in the Golden age he was a criminal with little interest in the Batman at first while the Clown is the brutal murderer that can't stop smiling and laugh. Golden age Joker didn't laugh nearly as much as Silver and Bronze, like the Criminal, so I really don't think the Criminal is likely the Bronze age Joker but rather the Golden age.
Man I just cant keep up with these issues. The Death Metal, the joker wars and now this? Man I love Dc so much
Oh shit! Jason and Barbra kissed? Dayum. I love Red Hood so much!
Well its still weird that bat man,nightwing AND joson todd all have kissed the same girl
I dislike her character so much oof
As always, awesome episode!!!
I really don't understand how the Joker(s) are able to fight against Batman, Robin, RedHood, Batgirl, etc... and come out on top?!?!?!?!?
“Why so serious son”
The criminal reminds a lot of Heath Ledger's Joker
Hes a bit too serious tho
@@reubenthawmte8504 That's the point.- He's the extremely intelligent, pure evil, criminal mastermind Joker.
So it makes sense for him to be a bit more-
Cold?-
@@reubenthawmte8504 I get what you're saying but he's the one in charge of the three jokers. He's a criminal master mind so he would be cold and calculative. He also has a medical condition which gives him intense pain when he laughs, that could explain why we don't see him smile much.
The cool subtle part of this is Joe Chill's number 0331939 (Detective Comics #33, 1939), his first appearance.
If red hood was actually the next joker he would be like the second Batman who laughs
The batman comics have been awesome lately
I mean can a monster like joker be considered human with all the evil he has done?
and he's afraid of IRS
The visuals and dialogue used in this issue are SOOO chilling! The opening sequence the Joker is imagining, the Jokerised bodies in the pool, Jason being beaten as he was before but now wearing his Red Hood helmet with a SMILE painted on it! Johns and Fabok are awesome! Also, THAT CLIFFHANGER! Can't wait til Issue 3. Hope it delivers as Doomsday Clock did.
Side note, when is this set, cause Alfred is alive in this, seemingly not in a vision or anything?
Honestly... I don't like what they've been doing with Joker the past few years
You suck then! 😤
No, he doesn't, even though I love joker and the latest stories, it has been getting kinda repetitive with the joker being the main villain again and again, it would be nice if they change it up once in a while
Like, making stories with any other villain in the rogues gallery
They should’ve done more with the Designer in my opinion
I get where you're coming from, he's becoming progressively more dark and sadistic instead of poking fun at Bruce to find a crack in his philosophy. It seems the problem is that they're trying to expand his character so he doesn't become generic,but part of the reason he's liked is because he's ambiguous
it literally blows my mind that someone can enjoy this.
Why? Why do you think its weird for someone to enjoy it? Its a decently written story.
It’s awesome. What’s bad about this? It’s interesting that they are exploring the trauma of these three characters that got heavily effected by Joker and we are seeing the aftermath of it. It’s horrific and sadistic, they are making a realistic narrative comic. I love it.
Batgirl is a liability she is so annoying being so self righteous
Frrs, shit she only got shot/paralyzed while got brutally beaten then was Killed in a explosion so yeah I think Jason deserves his payback which good for him
THANK YOU. Exactly
IM TUNRING ON NOTIFICATIONS SO I DONT MISS THE THIRD PART VIDEO. this series is sooo nice
I'm on Jason's side...He coped how he needed to. He's Bruce without a conscience...I'd hate him too, but the goal is bigger than the hate
It's kind of the Batman who laughs true origin in a a full length comic series
Since when does The Joker *hates* Batman..
He loves him !
You don't know that you didn't create joker
Love and hate tend to be two sides of the same coin to the Joker. But really despite a lot of popular modern interpretations the Joker has stated he hated Batman and/or has actually tried to kill him, countless times in their 80 year history. This is the original Joker (1940) who had no weird love-hate relationship, just hate. So it makes sense. Meanwhile in the Killing Joke, he kind of hates Batman there too as well as love him. It's complicated.
You can make an argument about how The Criminal Joker hates Batman because he is the more rational of the three.
@@rcbmmines4579 so the criminal is the golden age one? The comedian is the killing joke?
N yeah pretty much. The Criminal is ripped straight from Batman #1, his first appearance in 1940. Both his covers are based on panels from there. This Joker wasn’t goofy, he didn’t pull pranks or tell jokes. He was a criminal mastermind who challenges Batman (and Robin) to stop his crimes, which were mainly killing and stealing things. The main reason he’s called the Joker besides his face, is because of the playing card. He likes to leave it in his crimes and even use it to kill people. He also messed with gangsters a lot. Like in The Dark Knight.
Joker: *puts hat on Joe Chill and picks up camera*
Me: I don't like where this is going 😅
When you are about to sleep getting ready for work tom
Variant: imma end this man's whole sleep wake cyle
By December we’ll get all the issues in 1 big book and I’ll be excited 4 it.
May I ask if it is already released? And where can I purchase/read it?
@@huangrenjun2134 2 my knowledge it hadn’t been released yet and where U can buy it at is comic book place’s and if U live in Missouri City or any were there is a bed rock city store that’s were U can buy it there and if the don’t have it in stores check online.
Whyyyy did they kiss? That was honestly unnecessary, and gross. It would've been much more mature, telling, and better, more original writing, if they just hugged.
Ewwww gross
They kissed
Cooties
Sit down lil girl
@@bdboricua3128 Lmao I knew someone like you was gonna comment something childish like that. Sit down and read a comic, kid. Learn something about these characters.
Yeah i didn't like that i always thought they where more of a sibling thing, that just gross.
@@izdatbOi please explain how reading a comic will do anything to stop the fact youre like EWWW gross they kissed
lol
grow up
They showed the jokers dead corpse with the brain out and flies on his eyes, yet kissing is the gross thing. You're the kid.
Bro plz do more I love ur vids 👍🏾
So if they are hunting down potential Joker candidates, Joe Chill has to be the next one. He has cancer, so it might hurt when he laughs. Killing the Uber wealthy Waynes could have been his idea of a twisted Joke...
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Honestly at this stage the only member of the bat family with good morals is Jason Todd. I mean the joker has killed thousands of innocent people yet they are actually upset about his death and didn’t want him killed, as if they would’ve been happier for him to survive and go on killing. Their black and white attitude to murder is so infuriating for these apparent heroes that they will view the murder of a serial killer and the deaths of thousands of innocents as the same thing
Meh or the city could change the laws and execute these criminals. It's not their fault nobody else will legally do the right thing.
The idea of Jason becoming the new Joker kinda in this fashion is STILL what i think happened in BvS.
The red hood who laughs
Awesome and scary at the same time.
1st joker is the one that was hanged in the 1st meet up
Barbara really loves bat guys. Lol! Bruce, Dick and now Jason. Woot woot!
Why does every one of Batman’s robins look like him
Lazy artist😂
Im about to get hate in 3... 2...
Broads in Africa agreed dick, jason are especially drawn like the replicas of bruce wayne but younger
Dick and tim don't look like him
Doctor Phosphorus's cell reads 0197705 which means May 1977 although the 19 doesn’t match up with his first appearance in Detective Comics #469 but Joe Chill's cell reads 0331939 which is Detective Comics #33 1939 which was his first appearance
We finally see Joker dogs after seeing Joker fish, cats, squirrels, and all that other nonsense children shouldn't even be seeing. And now Jokerized people acting like zombies? Wow, do they keep making the Joker more and more like a horror character. And I'm a tad annoyed how Barbara is so vengeful towards Jason killing one of the Jokers even if she got crippled by one of them. Sometimes, a line has to be drawn to save lives whether it's right or wrong depending on the character. Just like how the DC heroes have given Wonder Woman a pass for killing Max Lord or whenever Aquaman goes on an ecological rampage on the surface world.
What lives? Joker was handcuffed, and Red hood killed him cold blooded cuz he didn’t like what he said about him and what him feel 😂. Joker beat him again and made him kill and pull the trigger that’s what the joker wants, to make him and Batman suffer since killing is what Batman is against and Barbra knows that’s what he wants, it doesn’t go away by just killing someone, it’s a lot more complicated than that. That’s why Batman doesn’t kill, if he did, he will never be the same again, he will be lost like Red hood, and the fact Red hood used that against Barbra upsets her and made it seem like she was part of the murder using her trauma which upsets her, as Batman said in the comic “I wish Red Hood turned out like you” Barbra came out of it strong after what Joker did to her, she didn’t go down that dark path like red hood and Barbra doesn’t want to lose herself and what she stands for, and that is justice and not giving away what she believes in. She was upset by red hood actions and dragging her to it. She’s traumatic and was emotional, Jason took away what she was finding strength from, what drives her to be good and better. You people need to use your brain for once not everything is simple and straight forward, it’s a human being. Violence is never the answer.
Bro this series is so awesome because I am a DC fan and red hood is a favorite
This issue is biggness reavel at batman series to me
And explain why joker always come back when he dead becouse joker is IDEOLOGY
Didnt they make mention before the Darkseid War about the laughing man being immortal or something, about him having an impure strain of the Lazurus Pit in his spinal fluid?