BUILDING A MILES DAVIS VINYL COLLECTION PT. II, AND...KIND OF BLUE, AGAIN?! WTF!!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2022
- ESP, SORCERER, MILES SMILES, NEFERTITI, MILES IN THE SKY, FILLES DE KILIMANJARO, BITCHES BREW, IN A SILENT WAY, LIVE EVIL, DARK MAGUS, AGHARTA, BIG FUN, WATER BABIES, PANGEA, AND MORE...
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The Second Great Quintet and his stuff 1969-1975 are my two favourite Miles periods hands down.
Hi Ken. All this information and feelings around it, means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I have 36 titles from Miles (only 4 on LP), and soon there will be more thanks to you.
It´s like reading poetry listening to you when you talk about Miles. Entertaining education really.
Great info!
I agree with you 100% about Kind of Blue. When you mentioned that not a single milk was wasted, I think about Ahmad Jamal. I know that Miles always spoke about AJ In the most positive light. I also believe that he said several times that he wish that he could get him to play in his group. AJ never wasted a note not to my ear.
Love this video Ken. Great rundown on Miles Davis and the groups he put together during his career. As far a Kind of Blue, I also understand why people love this album. I appreciate your breakdown of Miles recordings. It should give people a sense of what they should hear and expect. Bitches Brew is my favorite album as well as Sketches of Spain. Miles has given the world a gift that keeps on giving with his music. But let’s not forget those other great musicians who contributed to these great recordings. Thanks Ken.
Great analysis of the middle era of their work, Ken. As someone else noted, the great Ron Carter is alive and well (with a podcast!). I'd love to see the three remaining members just talking about this time together. Water Babies is so underrated, and seems to be a companion piece to IASW; just listen to Williams on the second side. Amazing stuff. Cheers.
Great rundown Ken. I recently picked up a couple of Japanese pressings of Sorcerer and Miles in the Sky and was totally blown away by this group. What a contrast to the hard bop I had been listening to mostly via re-releases on Bluenote. Could Tony Williams be more different then Art Blakey who is ubiquitous on BN? Don’t get me wrong, I am grateful for the work BN and others are doing these days making the classics available and affordable but finding this music but Miles et el has been a real bonus!
Not ever playing an instrument or being able to read music, I have a listen to bitches brew over six times and I can’t get the hang of it at all while all of my friends can’t understand why I don’t love it. I don’t understand either except for the fact that it is really Freeform to me and that’s beyond my ability to comprehend. Other than that, love almost everything that Miles released
Have been looking forward to Part 2. A lot of my Miles collection is on CD and tape and perhaps I should concentrate on buying more records ( finance notwithstanding). Thank you for your opinions as always.
Great video Ken.about sound quality M.D.round about mindnight on Speakers Corner 180gr Lp? Thanks
Ron Carter is still alive too!
Do you know the... remixed (?) he calls it "Reconstruction and Mix Translation" that Bill Laswell did with/to Miles' music?
The album is called Panthalassa: The Music of Miles Davis 1969-1974.
Ken, has the complete Plugged Nickel ever been released on mainstream vinyl? I have the wonderful CD box set and remember a Mosaic set but couldn’t see a non-limited edition vinyl release
Love this one Ken, Obviously Kind Of Blue is legendary but I could never imagine limiting myself to that alone. Thanks for telling people to get out there and DIG! there are great records everywhere! Every state I visit I make it a point to hit the local record store, there’s always something!
Almost exactly 20 years ago a coworker handed me “The Complete Columbia Studio Recording 1965-68” CD box set and that’s where I first heard the Second Great Quintet. Mostly I think the earlier ones like “E.S.P.” And “R.J.” are the tunes that I remember best. I gave Filles de Kilimanjaro, In a Silent Way and On the Corner serious listens only a year or two ago. Each album was almost a mind blowing/religious experience. I played Filles again before this comment. Normally I don’t notice the rhythm section very much but Tony Williams and Ron Carter were awesome and definitely kept the whole thing together. As far as KOB I guess I’m guilty there but for me it’s digital/HiRes.
I have the Decoy album which a found strange in a very Miles Davis way. Your thoughts on Aura?
Great video as usual. How do you feel about buying mono and stereo versions of classic jazz albums, I have KOB in Mono & stereo and recently bought a cheap mono version of “Somethin’ else” and really enjoyed hearing it that way and love owning both.
I think one of the reasons KOB is so fetishized is that it is accessible for the Jazz newbies sonically and availability.
this is it - its a wayto look cool to people who dont know jazz
@@seansrecords I think it’s probably the opposite. People that are not into jazz have no idea about anything. You could show them anything.
If you constantly show this it would make you look simple to someone who knows jazz.
@@TheKizersoze13 most people who know music have come across kind of blue
@@seansrecords I would generally agree. But most people don’t know music. Most people couldn’t even tell you the title of songs that they listen to on the radio. They only know the chorus. That is why KOB gets used as the gateway so much.
Thanks for this and Part 1 Ken - so many insights. Appreciate the introduction to Blue Haze, which I somehow missed. But why didn’t you include Birth of the Cool?
Totally agree with your comments on KOB. Wonderful LP, but my Classic Records version is enough. Once I have an album - no matter how well loved - with decent sound and clean surfaces, I stop there and look for other, new music. Like the OJC of Blue Haze that is on the way.
I only covered records that I own, and birth of the cool is a gaping hole
I like KOB. I have 3 copies (sorry). Two on vinyl a 33 and a 45 rpm version and a SACD (it was a thing for a while….lol). I have 18 MD albums total. So I am doing ok. Only 2 are KOB. I don’t like his late “digital” Tutu type stuff. Other than that he put together some unbelievable talent. I see him as a band leader, a director, and a talent scout. He was amazing and I am glad he had a relatively long life and career. I do really like the 45 rpm reissue. I know they are expensive, but I feel like they have more air and more space. They get my money……I hope you think that at least some are worth the added cost and labor only getting one song per side.
Nice shirt, sport!
I think all the reasons you've stated for individuals collecting multiple pressings of KOB are certainly present but couldn't there also be, as I believe, a desire to seek out the best sounding pressing of an album that really resonates for someone?
Was just going to say that.
I was also going to add, for so many people that are getting into jazz or want to get someone into jazz this album is almost always one of let’s say 3-5 records so it’s just going to be bought more.
I mean you said it yourself. KOB has no misses and is a masterful produced album front to back that is also coherent all the way through.
I know what you mean about KOB.Great album but why people need multiple,often very expensive versions I don't get.They will salivate over their 45rpm Mofi reissue,maybe have an OG or near,a mono and stereo yet still feel the need to buy the 2021 UHQR for £150 + or they will feel like they are missing out.
Still, it's their money 💰
Interesting take on Kind of Blue. You may be a bit blasé there Ken ! I get it though, it's a great album but it's become its own cliché. Nefertiti is my fave these days with the Prestige contract fulfilling sets.
Is it weird I prefer his live albums? My Funny Valentine. Plugged Nickel. I'll take either of them over a lot of the studio stuff.
One of my main takeaways from this video is that I need to check out Ellington's Indigos album. It has a lukewarm AllMusic review that calls it "easy listening music" as well as so-so ratings from Rolling Stone and Penguin so I had never given it a chance just because Ellington's catalog is so deep.
I'm with you on Kind of Blue. Like many jazz fans, that was among my first jazz purchases and my first (untrained ear) impression was that the album was a bit of a snoozer. I eventually came around to appreciate it for what it is, but it was a grower for me. It was years before I dug deeper into Miles's catalog and realized what I was missing out on. I think much of the 2nd Great Quintet stuff would have solidified my jazz fandom much quicker. Especially coming over from other genres where I was used to music that grabbed you immediately with things other than relaxed beauty. I now really enjoy KoB but I still don't think it deserves to tower over the genre.
Please give indigo‘s a chance. Is the favorite I’m on all my friends. There are many amazing records in Duke Ellington‘s catalog because he’s not seen as conventionally hip Columbia doesn’t push him like they do Miles Davis. Ellington is one of the greatest composers this country has ever created. Stretching all the way back to the 30s. Check out Charles Mingus too. Another amazing composer and his music lives and breathed the blues and Gospel music and jazz.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 that's why you're truly the jazz lover. Respect.
Great video Ken, I didn't hear you talk about Seven Steps to Heaven, I really like that album. What's your thoughts on it?
Thanks Frank, I covered that in the first video. I think I did
Frank, loved that album. Miles was in transition trying out new musicians. He wanted victor feldman but feldman didnt want to go out on the road. That los angeles group was nice with frank butler.
I also love "Love Supreme" but the reissues on that are also getting out of control.
How strange. I just bought the Herbie Nichols record yesterday
Julian Cannonball Adderley lays out on Blue in Green.
Where did you get that Herbie Nichols T shirt!!?
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For me it would be how to build a Miles CD collection. Jazz records, even 70's and 80's LP reissues are just too expensive.
I forgot I was going to show all my CD boxes in the end. They’ve done some amazing CD boxes and complete sessions.
You assume people live in the US! In 40 years of collecting I have never seen the majority of the records you show in the wild in the UK, I sentence you to only find endless Aker Bilk and Stranger on the Shore reissues
There's certain recordings which really strike a chord with a large audience. KOB is one of them. No different than the number of people who state that Led Zeppelin IV or Sgt. Pepper is the best rock album ever. It's all about music taste - there is no right or wrong here.
lack of imagination. No excuse.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Ha! Keep in mind that everyone's an arbiter of their own taste and nothing else. It's just different levels of taste refinement - some are more broad than others just like food and drink.
Don't always agree with you Ken, but you are dead on the money about KoB. Regarding the "fetishizing" and "...lack of imagination..." Nailed it. 👍
On a different topic, WTHeck is going on with Music Matters? Any inside "poop"? 👽🖖
They're done.
For the last time...ENOUGH of Kind of Blue. IMO it is one of the dullest releases of that genre in that time, one of miles leasts, and the only good thing on it is Freddie Freeloader and it's a blues.
Kind of bored with hearing about kind of blue all the time.
Dude - ok...unless one has picked an instrument and played at a Miles Davis level, most of us can't say if KOB is the greatest. We can say it is what is liked the best and perhaps that it is the most popular. Get over and stop smuggly insulting people please. You seem to have an issue with it being as big as it is.. just my opinion.
"We can say it is what is liked the best and perhaps that it is the most popular." Not the best, though the most popular. You have an opinion, I have an opinion. Is that okay with you?
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 stating an opinion that elevates it by saying other like imagination - sure you can do that but it's hardly becoming..
having a right to do something doesn't make you right to do it
@@cmkilcullen8176 The truth is often hard to take. Being told that your 15th copy of the same album in your collection is basically about a fundamental flaw in your character including lack of imagination or a hoarding instinct, is a truth that some far find hard to take. The truth will set you free. Or you can continue to babble in your ignorance
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
Ok Dr Freud - you seem to know so much about my record collection - which had nothing to do with my point. Lack of concentration, and ability to listen- and arrogant presumptuousness - must be great for family and friends of yours..