I liked your point regarding device overlap (task separation); first time I hear this, and it really makes sense in the current Apple ecosystem. Also, thanks for speaking about relative portability as I'm sure a 16" remains quite portable 'cause both need a bag or backpack during transit anyway!
I recently traveled and, even though I knew what would happen, I tried to open on a plane. Impossible to work on a plane with this laptop. I have a 12.9” iPad for this but it was comical trying to open while sitting in a coach class seat! I still kept my 16”. Also, I had a 16gb 16” with 1tb and returned that for 16” with 32gb and 2 TB. Performance went up close to 20% on cpu related processing.
Hey, I know its a late comment already but I hope you will still read this and answer. First of all I wanted to ask how is the laptop performing now? I am thinking of moving from 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro to M2 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro. I am an architecture student using 3D rendering softwares and Vectorworks for my projects. Do you think the performance would be sufficient. Second I hear that you were trying Archicad. Although it is a good software, I recommend you try Vectorworks since I consider it to be an easier software to learn as well as it runs smoother in Mac OS.
Hi Jon, how is Archicad 23 working on your side? My M1 Macbook Pro keeps on showing bug reports and sometimes can’t save the files. Let me know your experience as I’m waiting for my 14 inch M1 Pro spec out 10 core. Thanks and more power to your channel
Thanks Jon for your response, I have my M1 Pro 14 inch Macbook Pro with me and had it installed already. I still encounter the bug report when closing the app (Archicad) but haven’t experience the previous trouble saving files. By the way all of your reviews are on point and detailed like how Architects work on their projects! Looking forward on your next content 🙏🏻 🇵🇭
Great video!!! A follow up full review with compatibility and performance in fellow architecture software like Rhino+ Grashopper & Twinmotion could really be helpul. Looking Forward.
Great view! I have been agonising over this for about two weeks now, and funny enough, I had the exact same reasons as you in the end to go with the 16 inch. I am a student, and I can use my iPad 11 inch for Lectures and stuff, where I just need to take notes and really need portability, but for "real" work, and especially since I don't use an external monitor, I love having the bigger screen. To me, it also feels more comfortable to type on the 16 inch, since you have so much space to rest your palms.
Same situation here. I'm a medical student deciding between the 14" and 16" sizes for school (a little overkill but I plan to keep this thing for a lot longer than I had my 2016 13" MBP). My 11" iPad Pro with the magic keyboard attachment felt a little too close to the 14 inch MBP. Got both sizes, going to return the 14 and keep the 16, and I really like the separation between the iPad and the larger MacBook. Like Jon, I felt there was a little too much overlap between the iPad and the 14 inch in terms of screen size. If I need to do super portable work in tight spaces (small coffee shop/airplane) then I have the iPad. The weight/portability difference between the two is pretty nonexistent for me, as I can't really feel the difference in weight in my bag since there are other things in there anyways, and both laptops fit fine in my bag's laptop pocket. Otherwise, the 16" screen is a lot nicer to do work on, and it feels like a desktop away from home when I set it up on a table with the iPad to the side.
Hi Jon! Greate video and greate channel, i already subscribed! I works with Archicad for many years and few days ago i ordered macbook air with m1 and 16 gb ram. Is Archicad works well with m1 at all? I am interesting in drawings and 3d-Modeling, for rendering i have powerfull PC with Nvidia.
Great review! You came to the exact same conclusion as I did. I canceled my 14in on order for a 16in for the same reasons as you state. The 14in is great, but the 16in is just better in several ways, while the portability is still great. As you said, many reviewers make it look like the difference in size and heft between the the two form factors are humongous.
Exactly! I think what most people mean is "The 16" is less comfortable and heavy to carry with one hand.." Because carrying it in a backpack, 2 hands, etc. it's really not that bad. I wish I included that in the video^ LOL.
Amazing video, i agree with what you said, I ordered my 16” today. I do music, but im just curious about what camera and lens do you use? The graphics looks amazing as well
I really like this video especially as an architecture student who currently has a 2019 MacBook Pro 16” that’s been overheating and having issues with working with adobe apps, AutoCad, and SketchUp. I’m planning on getting the 2021 MacBook Pro 16” with the M1 Max chip, 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 16 core neural engine, 32g ram, and 512g. I’m in my second year of architecture and I still have 400g of my 512 ssd so I don’t think I need 1T plus I can always buy an external drive. This video was really helpful because even though it’s a really expensive laptop I know it will be a great investment.
It will be worth it!! 🙌🏾 One thing though, if you’re keeping this device for a while, 1TB might be the way to go. BUT if you’re convinced with 512gb, that’s good too.
I hear you, as far as for myself I would still go with the 14" as I mostly work with external monitors at home or at the office. My field is cinematography and I can't see myself doing client work on a laptop screen (not for the quality, but as you mentioned, the real estate).
Hi, great video!! Do you recommend 32 GB RAM or maybe the 64 GB RAM? I am a full time Premiere Pro editor and I want to have a macbook as fast as possible. But a lot of people tells me that I dont need the 64 GB RAM...
Thank you! I do my own color grading. No luts or anything. The funny thing is this particular video, I switched to final cut and still working on creating “the look” I want. This looks fine but not completely what I want. 😁
I’m an incoming freshman of Architecture and a part time Apple retail employee. I know that most architects and architecture students alike choose windows because all the software runs natively on windows but I’m a Mac user for life and was wondering what configuration you would recommend? I was thinking of buying a 14” MacBook Pro M1 Max with 64GB of ram, but can’t decide on 24 or 32 core GPU. Any thoughts?
Jon Imperial: would you happen to know if the gains from M1 Max for video editing and architeture are worth it over M1 Pro as far as performance per dollar and battery life?
Ok, this video was really useful. I was wondering if the software was able to work and perform well on the Macbooks because I know that primarily Windows is used and the archtecture software is usually optimized for Windows. Thanks so much for the insight.
I am a content writer and video editor looking to branch my skills out into graphic design - what resources would you recommend in learning (even if it's just the basics to get started) design skills?
Interesting insight! Where you find an issue with device overlap, I find an opportunity to almost double the screen real estate in a very portable EDC for my MacBook 14 max + IPad when it comes to video editing and motion graphics.
I can see your point. Good for you that it works. I don’t really see it as an issue but it’s nice to necessarily know which device to use for a specific task. I can use the 16”+11” ipad combo too (I can have 2 windows on mbp + 1 on ipad). Whereas, the 14” screen is not ideal for multi-tasking (1 window on mbp + 1 on iPad)… FOR MY USE.
Hi, what spec to choose for architecture, mainly im engineering in AutoCad, and in the evening im playing World of Warcraft. Wich spec should be fine for me? Im not rendering that much. I spend more time modeling and drawing.
What can you recommend? I have on order now 16" m1 pro (32 ram) and 14" m1 max (24 core). I do color grading in davinci resolve and these extra GPU cores will give 15-20% more fps in playback
A little late on this video… but this was super helpful! I’ve been trying to decide whether the 16in is worth the extra $$ and based on your review, I think it is! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the MacBooks, Jon!
Go in person an see the 16” n 14” to me the 16” is not big or heavy it’s actually light n average size it fits in my backpack. It’s looks hugeeeeee in RUclips video an RUclipsrs have noodle arm they say it heavy I don’t get it tbh at first I wanted the 14” because of RUclipsrs but when I went in saw it side by side I just went 16. 17-18” now that’s large. 14” is the 13 mini, 16” is the iPhone 13, and 17,18 etc that’s the iPhone 13 max
Not much tbh, I use a windows desktop as my main machine for revit/lumion/3dsMax use. And my macbook for on the go cad work, some photoshop, and presentations. I got the 14” and not regretting it. It’s so portable and you can always hook it to any screen for a bigger screen size plus it’s way cheaper
even i have a windows pc with an ipad pro. so wanted to know if i could switch to a mac mini or a mbp. so if there’s a video showcasing softwares used by architects and how compatible they are. a video like that will be of great value.
I had a 32gb laptop that handled my tasks very well in terms of memory. The Apple Silicon is more efficient I heard so I didn’t think 64 was necessary. Look for the 32gb vs 64gb RAM video from MaxTech But yeah… cost for sure too 😂
I currently work in a office that uses Windows, Auto CAD and sketchup. I want to get macbook pro and i was wondering if that would be a problem in terms of exchanging format between CAD and sketchup for windows and Macs? any ideas on that?
I have a 13inch MacBook Pro from 2017. Now I realized that I need a new Mac because archicad and photoshop are just too much for my old Mac. I want to get the new 16inch but I’m not sure about specs yet. Currently my favorite is the M1 pro with 32gb ram. I hope it will work for the next years while studying architecture
I have confused that whether i should buy the new MacBook pro 16 M1 ...since i want to install crack version.. So it possible to use the crack version of AutoCad and Sketchup in new MacBook pro m1
Hmm i guess it works for you because you only use the basic Architecture aoftwares such as Autocad and Sketchup… but on my firm I use more, Autocad, SU, Lumion, Revit, Archicad, D5 render, Enscape,blender etc.. depends on the project… so this still doesn’t work for me 🥲 Gahd i wish Autodesk work well with M2 since i need that push from RTX and GTX for render… 😭
Weird result of the battery life, I thought using similar time with same chip for same task, the 16 inch will consume more Wh power as its larger display should consume more…
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I liked your point regarding device overlap (task separation); first time I hear this, and it really makes sense in the current Apple ecosystem. Also, thanks for speaking about relative portability as I'm sure a 16" remains quite portable 'cause both need a bag or backpack during transit anyway!
I recently traveled and, even though I knew what would happen, I tried to open on a plane. Impossible to work on a plane with this laptop. I have a 12.9” iPad for this but it was comical trying to open while sitting in a coach class seat! I still kept my 16”. Also, I had a 16gb 16” with 1tb and returned that for 16” with 32gb and 2 TB. Performance went up close to 20% on cpu related processing.
Hey, I know its a late comment already but I hope you will still read this and answer. First of all I wanted to ask how is the laptop performing now? I am thinking of moving from 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro to M2 Pro 16 inch MacBook Pro. I am an architecture student using 3D rendering softwares and Vectorworks for my projects. Do you think the performance would be sufficient. Second I hear that you were trying Archicad. Although it is a good software, I recommend you try Vectorworks since I consider it to be an easier software to learn as well as it runs smoother in Mac OS.
Hi Jon, how is Archicad 23 working on your side? My M1 Macbook Pro keeps on showing bug reports and sometimes can’t save the files. Let me know your experience as I’m waiting for my 14 inch M1 Pro spec out 10 core. Thanks and more power to your channel
No issues when I tried it. My friend who uses it more often has no issues too.
Thanks Jon for your response, I have my M1 Pro 14 inch Macbook Pro with me and had it installed already. I still encounter the bug report when closing the app (Archicad) but haven’t experience the previous trouble saving files. By the way all of your reviews are on point and detailed like how Architects work on their projects! Looking forward on your next content 🙏🏻 🇵🇭
Great video!!! A follow up full review with compatibility and performance in fellow architecture software like Rhino+ Grashopper & Twinmotion could really be helpul. Looking Forward.
Hey Jon. What specs do you use and recommend for a professional workflow?
What is your profession? Coz that would make a big difference.
Great view! I have been agonising over this for about two weeks now, and funny enough, I had the exact same reasons as you in the end to go with the 16 inch. I am a student, and I can use my iPad 11 inch for Lectures and stuff, where I just need to take notes and really need portability, but for "real" work, and especially since I don't use an external monitor, I love having the bigger screen. To me, it also feels more comfortable to type on the 16 inch, since you have so much space to rest your palms.
That’s awesome! What specs did you end up getting?
Same situation here. I'm a medical student deciding between the 14" and 16" sizes for school (a little overkill but I plan to keep this thing for a lot longer than I had my 2016 13" MBP). My 11" iPad Pro with the magic keyboard attachment felt a little too close to the 14 inch MBP. Got both sizes, going to return the 14 and keep the 16, and I really like the separation between the iPad and the larger MacBook. Like Jon, I felt there was a little too much overlap between the iPad and the 14 inch in terms of screen size. If I need to do super portable work in tight spaces (small coffee shop/airplane) then I have the iPad. The weight/portability difference between the two is pretty nonexistent for me, as I can't really feel the difference in weight in my bag since there are other things in there anyways, and both laptops fit fine in my bag's laptop pocket. Otherwise, the 16" screen is a lot nicer to do work on, and it feels like a desktop away from home when I set it up on a table with the iPad to the side.
Hi Jon! Greate video and greate channel, i already subscribed!
I works with Archicad for many years and few days ago i ordered macbook air with m1 and 16 gb ram. Is Archicad works well with m1 at all? I am interesting in drawings and 3d-Modeling, for rendering i have powerfull PC with Nvidia.
Yes I had no issue when I was using it. 😁
Great review! You came to the exact same conclusion as I did. I canceled my 14in on order for a 16in for the same reasons as you state. The 14in is great, but the 16in is just better in several ways, while the portability is still great. As you said, many reviewers make it look like the difference in size and heft between the the two form factors are humongous.
Exactly! I think what most people mean is "The 16" is less comfortable and heavy to carry with one hand.." Because carrying it in a backpack, 2 hands, etc. it's really not that bad.
I wish I included that in the video^ LOL.
Hi Jon do you run parallel or boot camp to get Microsoft on your Mac book?
Nope. I’m strictly on MacOS. I used to use bootcamp/parallels though.
Also, no bootcamp for M1 Macs
Amazing video, i agree with what you said, I ordered my 16” today. I do music, but im just curious about what camera and lens do you use? The graphics looks amazing as well
I use a Sony A6600 w/ 16mm sigma! 😁
I really like this video especially as an architecture student who currently has a 2019 MacBook Pro 16” that’s been overheating and having issues with working with adobe apps, AutoCad, and SketchUp. I’m planning on getting the 2021 MacBook Pro 16” with the M1 Max chip, 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 16 core neural engine, 32g ram, and 512g. I’m in my second year of architecture and I still have 400g of my 512 ssd so I don’t think I need 1T plus I can always buy an external drive. This video was really helpful because even though it’s a really expensive laptop I know it will be a great investment.
It will be worth it!! 🙌🏾
One thing though, if you’re keeping this device for a while, 1TB might be the way to go. BUT if you’re convinced with 512gb, that’s good too.
@Julia Joslyn ….Jon is absolutely right…..go for the 1 TB ….you wont regret the purchase.
@@JonImperial should I keep my intel MacBook Pro 16” too since I have heard that revit and lumion aren’t compatible with the M1 chip yet?
If you need to use those apps, yes.. I’m not interested in Revit at all so I’m not caught up with compatibility.
If you need to use those apps, yes.. I’m not interested in Revit at all so I’m not caught up with compatibility.
I hear you, as far as for myself I would still go with the 14" as I mostly work with external monitors at home or at the office. My field is cinematography and I can't see myself doing client work on a laptop screen (not for the quality, but as you mentioned, the real estate).
That’s fair! I present sometimes with clients outside of my office and the bigger screen helps with that too!
Hi bro do you recommend it for architecture student ?
The only concern would be program compatibility. Check the programs you’re using and make sure they work well with parallels.
Jon, I'm wondering how well is AutoCAD running on Macbook now, since Autodesk released the native support😉😉
It’s working well! I have no issues with it.
Great video!! I wanna know what render software do u use for your work flow, looking forward for your reply
I’m honestly behind the times with rendering. My clients don’t require much of it. I just use Sketchup and photoshop if needed. At least for now…
Hi, great video!! Do you recommend 32 GB RAM or maybe the 64 GB RAM? I am a full time Premiere Pro editor and I want to have a macbook as fast as possible. But a lot of people tells me that I dont need the 64 GB RAM...
I missed this comment somehow. Might be too late for this BUT I’m happy with 32gb. Checkout Max Tech’s video on this then decide.
@@JonImperial No problem Jon, thanks for your reply. Keep up the good work!!
Your color grades are so good, can you pls share the details of any presets you use or make a video on that ?
Thank you! I do my own color grading. No luts or anything. The funny thing is this particular video, I switched to final cut and still working on creating “the look” I want. This looks fine but not completely what I want. 😁
@@JonImperial haha great man, hope to see some more awesome videos soon :)
Thanks. I am returning my 14in for a 16in as I need more space to work on two documents at a time.
Great video Jon, glad you got your 16 MBP near the full spec, still waiting on mine.
Thank you!! What specs did you get?
@@JonImperial - 10 core Max/ 64 GB of ram/ 4 Tb of SSD. Please don’t ask how much in Australia thou 😬
Nice!!! But I feel you! 💸💸💸
@@JonImperial - lol it’s right! 💵 💵 💵
Now looking at Lg 32/34 inch monitors to round out my office/studio with the MBP.
5k monitor? Lol
I’m an incoming freshman of Architecture and a part time Apple retail employee. I know that most architects and architecture students alike choose windows because all the software runs natively on windows but I’m a Mac user for life and was wondering what configuration you would recommend? I was thinking of buying a 14” MacBook Pro M1 Max with 64GB of ram, but can’t decide on 24 or 32 core GPU. Any thoughts?
I got the 32 core GPU. I didn't test out the 24 so I can't speak on it. There are other videos on perfomance difference between the 2.
Hi, is Macbook Pro M1 Max can run without problem with Archicad and Revit softwares?
Great video man! Especially with the the battery section. Team 16 for sure!
Thanks bro! Is that a foreshadowing of your decision? 😂
@@JonImperial Maybeeeeeeeee
ooooh! 🤣
Do you think i can get away with an m1 8gb ram 512gb ssd MacBook Pro for my graphic design major?
I dont think so tbh with you. 😬
@@JonImperial should i go for the base model 14 inch?
how do i get the wallpaper that you used for your 16 inch mac..it looks nice !
Sorry. It's a personal photo.
Thank you! does it work good with autokad? some people said that the macbook cant handle with arcitectiure quite good
I have 0 issues using autocad with my MacBook
Jon Imperial: would you happen to know if the gains from M1 Max for video editing and architeture are worth it over M1 Pro as far as performance per dollar and battery life?
Unfortunately, not really. Never used an M1 Pro.
Ok, this video was really useful. I was wondering if the software was able to work and perform well on the Macbooks because I know that primarily Windows is used and the archtecture software is usually optimized for Windows. Thanks so much for the insight.
I am a content writer and video editor looking to branch my skills out into graphic design - what resources would you recommend in learning (even if it's just the basics to get started) design skills?
Interesting insight!
Where you find an issue with device overlap, I find an opportunity to almost double the screen real estate in a very portable EDC for my MacBook 14 max + IPad when it comes to video editing and motion graphics.
I can see your point. Good for you that it works.
I don’t really see it as an issue but it’s nice to necessarily know which device to use for a specific task. I can use the 16”+11” ipad combo too (I can have 2 windows on mbp + 1 on ipad). Whereas, the 14” screen is not ideal for multi-tasking (1 window on mbp + 1 on iPad)… FOR MY USE.
Hi, what spec to choose for architecture, mainly im engineering in AutoCad, and in the evening im playing World of Warcraft. Wich spec should be fine for me? Im not rendering that much. I spend more time modeling and drawing.
Which render software or render engine works with MacBook Pro M3.
Enscape!
What can you recommend? I have on order now 16" m1 pro (32 ram) and 14" m1 max (24 core). I do color grading in davinci resolve and these extra GPU cores will give 15-20% more fps in playback
I can't speak on the M1 Pro because I haven't tried it myself. I would suggest watching other videos and see which one fits your needs more. Sorry.
Best fan noise comparison I have seen.
Thank you!! 🙏🏾
A little late on this video… but this was super helpful! I’ve been trying to decide whether the 16in is worth the extra $$ and based on your review, I think it is! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the MacBooks, Jon!
I love my 16” MBP! No regrets! 😁
Please recommend me for Macbook pro 13 pro for Revit model.
Go in person an see the 16” n 14” to me the 16” is not big or heavy it’s actually light n average size it fits in my backpack. It’s looks hugeeeeee in RUclips video an RUclipsrs have noodle arm they say it heavy I don’t get it tbh at first I wanted the 14” because of RUclipsrs but when I went in saw it side by side I just went 16. 17-18” now that’s large. 14” is the 13 mini, 16” is the iPhone 13, and 17,18 etc that’s the iPhone 13 max
Yes, it is important to see it in person. Thanks for sharing your experience.
wanted the video more on how compatible this product is with our workflow.
Not much tbh, I use a windows desktop as my main machine for revit/lumion/3dsMax use.
And my macbook for on the go cad work, some photoshop, and presentations. I got the 14” and not regretting it. It’s so portable and you can always hook it to any screen for a bigger screen size plus it’s way cheaper
That’s why I added not a “full review”. Maybe soon. I got so much going on and this video was supposed to come out weeks ago. Lol.
even i have a windows pc with an ipad pro. so wanted to know if i could switch to a mac mini or a mbp. so if there’s a video showcasing softwares used by architects and how compatible they are. a video like that will be of great value.
My current laptop weighs 6lbs so 4.5lbs is light in comparison. Plus that new larger screen is amazing.
Big win! 🙌🏾👏🏾
@@JonImperial have you noticed display ghosting as pointed out by this review ruclips.net/video/xeVTPBxSgb8/видео.html
Nope. Not at all.
Cool video 👌 im gonna get 16 inch for programming. I dont use external monitors so its best option for me.
Perfect! 👌🏾
Other then cost, any reason why you didnt just max it iout and get 64 ram?
I had a 32gb laptop that handled my tasks very well in terms of memory. The Apple Silicon is more efficient I heard so I didn’t think 64 was necessary.
Look for the 32gb vs 64gb RAM video from MaxTech
But yeah… cost for sure too 😂
I currently work in a office that uses Windows, Auto CAD and sketchup. I want to get macbook pro and i was wondering if that would be a problem in terms of exchanging format between CAD and sketchup for windows and Macs? any ideas on that?
No issues. I was working on my Mac at home and my previous work had Windows PC.
@@JonImperial so I can use a MacBook and save things on a windows server without issues too?
@@reddevilian yup!
It’s the file format…which is the same on both Macs and Windows…..*.dwg …..it can be saved in one and opened again in the other. No issues
Is there a 14 inch Macbook Pro M1 Max? I could only find M1 Pro for 14 inch
There is! It’s a custom order.
Maybe power efficiency differences are due to the 14 inch running fans more
Possibly!
I have a 13inch MacBook Pro from 2017. Now I realized that I need a new Mac because archicad and photoshop are just too much for my old Mac. I want to get the new 16inch but I’m not sure about specs yet. Currently my favorite is the M1 pro with 32gb ram. I hope it will work for the next years while studying architecture
That would be a huge upgrade!
@@JonImperial I hope so. do you think that the spec would be good?
or is there a better spec for my needs ?
Please!!! Test Enscape (there's not a single test on entire RUclips)
I have confused that whether i should buy the new MacBook pro 16 M1 ...since i want to install crack version..
So it possible to use the crack version of AutoCad and Sketchup in new MacBook pro m1
I have no idea. I don’t use a cracked version.
Unfortunately Revit is only on windows.
Hmm i guess it works for you because you only use the basic Architecture aoftwares such as Autocad and Sketchup… but on my firm I use more, Autocad, SU, Lumion, Revit, Archicad, D5 render, Enscape,blender etc.. depends on the project… so this still doesn’t work for me 🥲 Gahd i wish Autodesk work well with M2 since i need that push from RTX and GTX for render… 😭
Could you test CSI ETABS|SAP2000, Autodesk Robot on Windows 11 on ARM VIA Parallels Desktop on the M1 Pro|Max?
Weird result of the battery life, I thought using similar time with same chip for same task, the 16 inch will consume more Wh power as its larger display should consume more…
I think it’s because of cooling.
Says "Long story short", then continues to tell the long story. How do you youtubers do it?
How do you know that that wasn’t the short version? 🤷🏽♂️
Also, how do we do it? it’s easy! Just say “long story short” then continue speaking.
TEAM 16” FOR SURE 👍
Why am I late again:(
😂
Is that a oura ring you have 😃
No it isn’t. 😁 just a regular ring.
TLDW version: because it is bigger.
You missed the whole point.
*This is not a full review*
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